midgame-chat-w3🧊w4🔮

[atomic flower]

https://tenor.com/view/terraria-calamity-yharon-get-real-gif-20553133

[mint rivet]

demonic numbers

[atomic flower]

enough to hire a demon

[zenith hare]

damage

[zenith hare]

like thats hard?? not even in revengance

[thorny zinc]

if my maestro becomes the best in all skills and everyone get 100% skill xp how do i keep it up so my maestro will still be the best one

[zenith hare]

you dont skill, its for the eff not xp

[marsh glade]

don't get the skill exp talent

[zenith hare]

you only print on other chars

[atomic flower]

infernum it

[rancid ridge]

Not even in Infernum

[zenith hare]

still not hard

[thorny zinc]

makes sense thx

[zenith hare]

did that like 2 years ago

[atomic flower]

+Hardcore

[mint rivet]

you MAESTRo will never become the best in all skills

[zenith hare]

people has done it so its still not hard!

[rancid ridge]

News flash time I am one of the testers for Infernum.
Now you get to live with that information.

[zenith hare]

plus infernum is very consistent when youve beat it once

[marsh glade]

does killer's brightside affect cranium cooking? can't figure it out.

[zenith hare]

now go test the new cal bosses master ais

[zenith hare]

no, it only counts true kills

[atomic flower]

me destroy whole world to build method to cheese every boss

[mint rivet]

i didn't play with black balls in a while

[atomic flower]

balls

[zenith hare]

not even needed

[mint rivet]

i hope lava adds that 3x multi again

[zenith hare]

it was 5x :3

[rancid ridge]

Me saving all the balls for an entire year in hopes of a random new bonus.

[mint rivet]

DAMN

[mint rivet]

don't quit

[limpid panther]

is this a 1 time thing
or this is the only way to get more of the bonus?

in W4 shop

[mint rivet]

good for vman speedrun?

[mint rivet]

you can buy many, but buying more won't increase the bonus

[limpid panther]

so its a 1 time upgrade for the tome?

thanks!

[grizzled hemlock]

Should I go straight to big food pouch skip the ones inbetween or get each one by one does it make a difference?

[pastel heart]

skip

[somber depot]

Decent/

[mint rivet]

what's decent

oh vman purple dmg

[daring saffron]

i have a question about a world 3 achievement
why does the 'yawning cogs' achievement say anytime except march 16 2022 at 3.07pm?

[mint rivet]

because at that time you can't obtain it

[daring saffron]

why that very specific time that will never effect me though

[mint rivet]

how does my VMAN have more kills than SB

[mint rivet]

idk more

[daring saffron]

k

is there a reason u cant access the upgrade vault in world 3

[west pilot]

What

[pastel heart]

how come

[daring saffron]

i dont see the thing in the top left on my screen when i enter world 3

[pastel heart]

it is in codex

quick ref

[daring saffron]

oh

i didnt know that

[mint rivet]

i don't understand what you don't understand

[daring saffron]

whats sb

[misty lance]

been sitting at the pet arena for 50 min how long will round 200 take 😅

[pastel heart]

siege breaker

[daring saffron]

is that a class upgrade?

[mint rivet]

BARELY

[pastel heart]

yes for bowman

[daring saffron]

ok

[west pilot]

how you vman has more kills than sb

[mint rivet]

that's my question

new record by far

[shy ruin]

i have enough salt to craft one diabolical weapon which one should i get first, warrior archer or mage?

[mint rivet]

why would you use salt on a weapon

[shy ruin]

because the recipe requires salt

[mint rivet]

u don't have better stuff to use salt on?

like armor?

[shy ruin]

weapon before armor

plus weapons require less salt than troll armor

[mint rivet]

u do you

[shy ruin]

why would you say "u" once then "you" the other time

[mint rivet]

since saying u do u sounds weird

anyways, get BB weapon

[shy ruin]

ok 👍

[slow warren]

What is the recommended pet strength for unlocking the w6 spices?

In pet territiory fighting

[odd obsidian]

highest level rattler/peapod you have i'd presume

[zenith hare]

wrong

[odd obsidian]

there isnt really a recommended pet strength because theyre likely to get one shot

[raw inlet]

Nice

[zenith hare]

oh the actual fighting

[slow warren]

Hm

[odd obsidian]

-# in pet territory fighting..

[slow warren]

Yes

[zenith hare]

yeah level 1 is all you need

higher = faster

[mint rivet]

meme, is this enough for vman needs or do I have to get more later?

[zenith hare]

youll need to get 75 later on

its an equinox

[mint rivet]

did you get 85?

[zenith hare]

not done it since i got the equin

[slow warren]

I just got to around 100k power, and its taking a long time

[zenith hare]

maybe use a better team

[slow warren]

Any recommendations?

[slow warren]

I thought bone > peashooter long term anyways

[zenith hare]

no

[slow warren]

Ok thats very different

[zenith hare]

peashooter and rattler is only for looter procs

looter is ur damage

peashooter is just better at that

[slow warren]

I see

[zenith hare]

and trasher is better then mimic as you dont get cucked by alchemic

[mint rivet]

oh man haven't done lab in ages

[zenith hare]

go to 1400 acc wide

[mint rivet]

I will just go for 2100, do u think I am capable atm?

[zenith hare]

its a pain to do but likely possible

[crude kernel]

personally i replace monolithic with rattler

[mint rivet]

but that also means I gotta hop off justice

[stoic elk]

wher do i put shrines

[mint rivet]

would rather not let down those 2 mental health and dismisals

[zenith hare]

if you do, replace a refiller with smth too

2 refillers is only useful IF you have mono

so no mono, no 2 refillers needed

[mint rivet]

25dr DK!

[zenith hare]

second looter is great

[mint rivet]

crystal island time

[sudden forum]

time for a weapon change if i do say so myself

Upgrades are always good

[mint rivet]

music for my ears

island is like 4-5 days old, not most crystals

[mint rivet]

nah i won't, i like how scythe looks

[sudden forum]

I personally like the look of the Diabolic Flesh Ripper and Skull Lance

[west pilot]

the fps

💀

[mint rivet]

its mostly the recording fault

[crude basalt]

why doenst it level up if i kill wode boards one hit without weapon?

[mint rivet]

cloud save and try again

[crude basalt]

no, but i figured this out. U cant have any double or triple hit talents. You have to single hit him

[obtuse whale]

db or dk for killroy?

[quasi apex]

Dk faster

[mint rivet]

DK

[inland peak]

anywhere where i can find a good worship XP setup for my Vman?

[surreal bane]

can i finish w4 with this 137 level dk ?

[obtuse whale]

db tomb not faster?

[quasi apex]

Dk coverage faster

[mint rivet]

yes it is possible

but work on that accuracy

[surreal bane]

hm needed?

[mint rivet]

not needed

[surreal bane]

so ?

[mint rivet]

I don't understand what ur asking

[surreal bane]

this

[mint rivet]

what about it

[true hamlet]

pet arena time 😭

[surreal bane]

you told me to improve my accuracy thats why i ask how much needed

[true hamlet]

enough to hit with 100% or 150% for dk

[mint rivet]

oh so that's what u asked, just get around 20k for now

[surreal bane]

ok

[true hamlet]

should work?

[stable valve]

i cant even get to arena 50

[true hamlet]

what's wrong with not being able to

[zenith hare]

what pets you got?

if you dont have nutto, its pretty hard

[mint rivet]

does autoreview have no ROO guide?

[true hamlet]

yeah for sure

[true hamlet]

idk maybe not

[mint rivet]

i searched in general stuff and world 2 stuff

[zenith hare]

w2 pins has it

[mint rivet]

its not there, but owl is

[stable valve]

im up to stick on world 1 pets, w2 im at potato and w3 ive just got sheep

ive neglected breeding so much

[zenith hare]

the very top one

[true hamlet]

This week I unlocked rattler, looter, badabum and borgor, went from arena 50 to (we'll see)

[zenith hare]

ignore w3 and w2 pets for now

[surreal bane]

btw how many days will the event extend

[zenith hare]

its the 29th of feb rn (1st of march)

[stable valve]

i get to round 41 with sheep potato carrot and the blocking chest

[true hamlet]

sheep? why sheep

[stable valve]

just high sniper damage

[zenith hare]

yes and nutto isnt on that team

[stable valve]

what should my team be?

[zenith hare]

refiller would be better then sheepie btw

[true hamlet]

I'd say use fleeter+refiller

carrot is fine

[zenith hare]

yeah mimic, carrot, refiller, fleeter

keep fleeter off auto and only use when you need to get more time

[stable valve]

that should get me to 50?

[zenith hare]

it could

im not saying it will

but that should be ur best team you have access to right this second

[true hamlet]

it got me there

should be easier with vault too

[zenith hare]

yeah thats a massive bonus

[wicked drum]

massive?

[true hamlet]

you can't say no to more damage

and xp

[sleek stone]

whats the best to reach stage 50?

[true hamlet]

mentioned above

[sleek stone]

bone, mono, refill, and shield?

[tired moon]

About shrines; what classifys as a map, is it e.g Blunder Hills, Yum-Yum Desert or e.g Amarok Arena, Froggy Fields?

[true hamlet]

mono... you have mono and you haven't hit 50?

[true hamlet]

each individual area

[sleek stone]

nah 2 more and mono and bones

[true hamlet]

I don't even have mono yet lmao

[violet bridge]

does anybody have guide for breeding spices cause i cant get to 400k without losing a lot of foraging speed?

[sleek stone]

more point

more dmg

[mint rivet]

looked at it, very confusing, didn't understand anything besides points priority

[tired moon]

thank you! Any recommendations/"best" places, if there are?

[thorny zinc]

whats the best thing to buy here

[mint rivet]

pins

[true hamlet]

more of keep it on the map your main guy is pushing, you won't really get to level it up well until w4

[tired moon]

can i destroy/replace shrines?

[true hamlet]

In w4 there's a thing called shrine world tour where placing a shrine in the town counts as being placed in the entire world

[sleek stone]

early should be candy

[true hamlet]

just place down one of the same type and it will replace

[thorny zinc]

okay thx

[tired moon]

thank you so much!

[sleek stone]

later youll buy what you need in there

[mint rivet]

am I good for megafish?

[sleek stone]

dang

[true hamlet]

I personally couldn't be bothered to follow guide so idk

[sleek stone]

your good (cooked)

[true hamlet]

It's whatever

[fresh sable]

when is weekly reset for giant spwan odds?

[turbid stag]

if you want you could get one more but I think your fine as long as you don't went negative on previous reset/mega

[true hamlet]

along with the rest of your weeklies

[turbid stag]

Your own Weekly reset, see shimmer reset or guild weekly

[surreal bane]

time to see what doggy gives

[fresh sable]

whats quickest way to check?

[mint rivet]

idk what i went on previous, it was 8 months ago

[turbid stag]

guild GP tasks

[quiet holly]

How do you get twisty leafs

[jade kindle]

w2 trees

[quiet holly]

Ok

[turbid stag]

if you have the time and sanity you could go for more investing but you have good investing it seems based on this:

MF2 = +47 points (37 invest) 15/70/8/x/x
MF3 = +55 points (40 invest) 15/70/15/38/10
MF4 = +61 points (46 invest) 24/70/15/80/20
#endgame-gen-chat message

[mint rivet]

I am at MF3, I am like 30 points under

[turbid stag]

then you should go at least 5-10 pts higher than recommended for each reset to make up for low investing

[true hamlet]

or be like me and give up and move on

[iron valley]

higher count of giant mob odds means more chances that giant mobs will appear? or what?

it used to be 1 IN 389

can someone clarify this for me thanks!

[true hamlet]

every time you kill one, the chance for the next decreases

resets weekly

[mint rivet]

so i should get at least +66 pts here?

[iron valley]

oh i see that's why, been fighting those eyes for an hours and giant still not appearing

thanks tho

[true hamlet]

yeah, there's way to increase the chances too

basically to make sure you don't get too many gems and candies

[iron valley]

ohh can you tell me how exactly

[true hamlet]

I'm in a pet battle, can't check.. I believe there's a vial

[iron valley]

okay okay thankss

[turbid stag]

You should get at least 46 + 5 investing but you can choose how high you want your investing to be.
You get 15 pts for the reset itself.

[woeful pivot]

Guys how tf do I use maestro correctly?- I don't get him

[turbid stag]

what is confusing?

[woeful pivot]

The uh talents

Like if I just have it maxed in my second talent space ig would it work

[mint rivet]

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/e/2PACX-1vST3HcgBgeq8H9jztaMhUXZAAAHl120PvDVo_48qJpn6n9qnpa-TWmuG_kN9cmtr66M-OtO482XIOAk/pubhtml#

[turbid stag]

^ use the talent guide with a grain of salt some might not be ideal

read and see what your talents does

[west pilot]

i thought i would hit 2100 on this claims, but seems like game trolled me

[woeful pivot]

Like if I have 100 level of the efficiency thingy on the second book but I'm on the first one would it still effect my other characters?

[mint rivet]

gonna take a while

[true hamlet]

mmm I can technically get 200 tent rn.. or should I wait 1 day for oxygen... hmmm

[mint rivet]

get rn

[true hamlet]

I'd have to roll max book, and my checkout speed is atrocious for 20x

[mint rivet]

roll max book then

[true hamlet]

my luck is bad

[mint rivet]

git gud

[true hamlet]

it can wait

not like I 1 shot wurms

[turbid stag]

Are you talking about Left hand of learning and right hand of action?

[pastel shuttle]

Is there something called cooking jail? KInda still level 1 at cooking and been neglecting it for divinity, lab and some other stuff 😭

[true hamlet]

ish

[atomic flower]

[turbid stag]

If your not doing something important on BB your default activity would be cooking or getting super chow

[pastel shuttle]

Oh boy, what is super chow?

[true hamlet]

100m kill

vman enhancement

[fierce jewel]

What pet layout do yall use to get the fastest lvl 100 in arena?

[atomic flower]

[fierce jewel]

For tome

[atomic flower]

Mahogara x5

[turbid stag]

There are talents for Barb/BB/DB that you can get effect from if you get 100k, 1m, 100m and 1b kills for each monster.

[pastel shuttle]

Ooh I think I see some of them now

I missed out, BB seemed so meh to farm, since I didn't see him having a mob respawn skill. So I put him in other jails.

[atomic flower]

[turbid stag]

You afk farm with BB

[atomic flower]

Active farm with it

[fierce jewel]

Whats mahogara?

[pastel shuttle]

Aight so I have to boost his afk rates up, ty

[atomic flower]

https://tenor.com/view/sukuna-mahoraga-gif-16631536503487896661

[fierce jewel]

Such help

[atomic flower]

!guide

[candid scarab]

Mid-Late Game guide for World 3 / 4 / 5:
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/e/2PACX-1vSCepYAs6sNDP4iq6MJNAG1pvFXzfC_3IQ7ttt5vfEEKAgQhIk4cQqnLRyeH6UyqDSuP4R-6WQeDmmP/pubhtml
Video Guides (by GriffyBit):
https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLVGSDQs1AcvjYTAPtYV6ofbeeEfHpEcb4

[slender lichen]

adapts to anything basically
(and is stupidly powerful)

[atomic flower]

Use that

[atomic flower]

Basically mahogara is joke

Btw u can use guide sheets up there

[visual star]

anyone got tips to optimize chances for new alchemy bubbles? Aside from bubble breakthrough. (I've already maxed out pay to win)

[dense egret]

That's just not his name...

[atomic flower]

His ability indeed

[pearl notch]

3D prints keep flickering between purple and gold without me doing anything, happens while I have the 3D print window open

I have doot

any known way to make it stay gold and not flicker?

[atomic flower]

Bla bla bla it's just colour

[vast ivy]

is it worth to keep tachion prayer on when active farming?

[dense egret]

Yeah

[atomic flower]

Depend on what u farming

[vast ivy]

im just pushing through w4 rn

[dense egret]

Then use the prayer it has no downsides except for when your not strong enough to kill the giant

[atomic flower]

Use candy

[vast ivy]

yee i used some candies. they helped a lot for the first few areas

now its a lot of kills lol

[atomic flower]

What is late w6 but skill progress still early w3 look like?

Rainbow=x7

There is human on dead chat planet! I though they were myth!!

[magic haven]

legit?

how do you get that much money tho

[oak walrus]

Simply: u dont

[atomic flower]

unless

you are dev

[magic haven]

bruh lol

[mint rivet]

in w7 you can

[oak walrus]

Depends on how many coin tiers get added

[keen dirge]

How can I start crystal farming with divine knight (just started w4)

[oak walrus]

Choco chip from lab

[mint rivet]

no it does not depend on that

you can have that many coins without more coin tiers

[keen dirge]

???

[oak walrus]

U know what a chip is or no?

[keen dirge]

I just unlocked it

Like 5 minutes ago

[hasty steeple]

Anything i should know about the w3 Boss before I fight it

[oak walrus]

Well you will need this one:

[keen dirge]

Ok I’ll keep a lookout

[oak walrus]

Chance for crystal mob to respawn on death or something like that

[keen dirge]

He gets a lot of defensive statues

[hasty steeple]

Uh I don't understand what you mean

[magic haven]

wghat is that sir

i fought w3 boss with a lv50 wizard for 2 mins and its dead lol

[oak walrus]

And also get a higher crystal spawn chance (from stamp, po, talents....)

[magic haven]

silly chizoar is ez

[keen dirge]

Like he spawns ice crystals to give himself invincibility (only take 10 dmg)

[oak walrus]

W4 thingy

[hasty steeple]

Oh ok thanks

[keen dirge]

Tbh chiozar shouldn’t give you trouble so you’ll be good

[magic haven]

im in w4 but how to get that

[oak walrus]

Basicaly like amarok def totems

[oak walrus]

Wait or gem

[magic haven]

and what does choco chip do

[oak walrus]

.

[magic haven]

how to get more nano chip or is it just wait 5 days then i can get it idk

[cold wraith]

in the w4 shop buy the first two things

[atomic flower]

144p really?

[oak walrus]

Weekly reset or gem

[cold wraith]

once you have a certain amt you can click and hold and either the chip or jewel thing will pop up

[oak walrus]

If u decide to wait for it to rotate in then this is the cost:

[atomic flower]

have 75% to spawn another crystal when u kill them and yes very op or statue farm

[faint bramble]

Bros playing on a potato

[magic haven]

wdym gem

[magic haven]

the gem bell thingy that is purple idk?

[oak walrus]

[magic haven]

ehh its just small the image

[magic haven]

oh dang

[magic haven]

what gem do

[atomic flower]

even i zoom it

[magic haven]

playing it on a nokia phone sorry its small i know it

[oak walrus]

Are u telling me u dont know what is?

[cedar estuary]

how do I get this probability go down? I still have some quests to do regarding giant mobs alongside some achievements

[oak walrus]

Weekly reset

[crude basalt]

im not getting 500 kills on rift level one, im onehitting all mods with my beastmaster lvl 205 but they dont respawn quick enough. Any tips?

[magic haven]

bro i mean what gem upgrade or what

[cedar estuary]

I see, alright then

[west pilot]

use another class

you using the worst

[magic haven]

idk but maybe the SB flag works idk

[oak walrus]

In w4 tab the gamble for 1 chip thingy

[magic haven]

3

[crude basalt]

lmao okay

[magic haven]

i cant buy the crystal printer or hammer hammer

[slender lichen]

i think if you level up the prayer you can increase it (increase chances i mean)

[magic haven]

its max is lv2? i dont remember

[oak walrus]

It has 2 lvl and the 2nd lvl does nothing

[magic haven]

i sold all of my g food is that good? i have like stacks of 300 for each

[oak walrus]

There is a big yellow bubble for a chance to not increase it but its okay at best if u want to decrease it fully u need to wait for weekly reset

[west pilot]

gfood is not for selling

[magic haven]

wait also how to increase plundering mob chance

[magic haven]

ik im just kidding

[oak walrus]

U dont

[magic haven]

whats the base chance then

[oak walrus]

But there is a small gimic from the vman class that buffs it

[oak walrus]

2% I think

[magic haven]

crazy lol

how do u grind them if its 2%

[west pilot]

grinding

[magic haven]

also is the citrus map in w5 best for plunder farm?

[oak walrus]

Vman has a if flag has 100 then lose 25 and spawn a plundering mob

[west pilot]

ye

[deft stone]

Does kitchen table continue cooking meal in the background while also researching or does it stop cooking?

[fringe burrow]

is the coin star talent worth ?

[west pilot]

stop

[atomic flower]

How to improve my DB farming?

[west pilot]

getting better

(check Db guide)

[atomic flower]

Ehh

Where!

[west pilot]

mb

[violet bridge]

how do i unlock spices after that cause i dont show me more fights?

[west pilot]

#1330702925294735360 message

[west pilot]

you need to push w6

[violet bridge]

how much?

what exacly gives me more spices

[west pilot]

royal egg

[fresh sable]

lab jail time 😄

[thorny zinc]

should i use deathly cluster on dk or keep chaotic amarock??

[true hamlet]

amarok prob

[thorny zinc]

i feel you man

[true hamlet]

mob respawn not useful for dk

[dusty harness]

get chizoar blankie

[true hamlet]

this is worse..

[fresh sable]

yup lol

pushing w4 with my DK and then having 1 other char slowly unlock the basement to the tree area for worship

[dusty harness]

idlejail

[true hamlet]

people complain it's not idle enough so might as well

[dusty harness]

db wraith form

[true hamlet]

I can't be bothered, especially since I didn't buy autoloot

not yet at least

[thorny zinc]

[dusty harness]

lab jail->div jail->hole jail->lab jail 2->nothing jail

[true hamlet]

I should get my last 4 blankets

[dusty harness]

nothing trophy really putting the idle in idleon

[pale violet]

what are the ways to increase talent book lvls? i have the salt lick im looking for any other outlet there may be aswell lmao

[pale violet]

ty g

why does like half the lvls gotta come from sailing D;

[true hamlet]

because sailing is op

[west pilot]

fury relic sweep

[true hamlet]

It's actually sailing, rift and sneaking disguised as 1 thing

[pale violet]

looks like i got everything except the relics so time gated shit it is lets go bois!

[true hamlet]

summoning done?

[pale violet]

oh ya and summoning

[true hamlet]

halfway done with achievement, what a pain

[pale violet]

im only at green so far with summoning tho so its gonna be awhile

[brave cove]

took me like 6 12 hour candies but worth it

now how do i maintain this

[quartz osprey]

@turbid stag Just hit W6 can you help review my account 🥺

[turbid stag]

[keen dirge]

What can I do to increase mining exp gain for journeyman

[thorny zinc]

gear up boys

[chilly gyro]

🤏

[thorny zinc]

i know i still need like 4 minimum

[chilly gyro]

🤏

[thorny zinc]

bro do you equip rings on every slot in the game?

[chilly gyro]

🤏

[lament stump]

What’s the best gear for world 3

[oak walrus]

Idk probably amarok till w5-6 if u lazy

[brave cove]

what should i be doing with my maestro

[thorny zinc]

hell nah

[brave cove]

i honestly don't know

[storm girder]

I'm so cooked I just got to world four and I'm still wearing Amarok

[thorny zinc]

skilling probably or farming cards

[brave cove]

all my characters are wearing amarok it's ok

[lament stump]

How do you get serrated Rexx rings

[thorny zinc]

from baba yaga

[storm girder]

Baba yaga

[brave cove]

recipe from baba yaga

[brave cove]

cards it is then

[lament stump]

What are the chances

[thorny zinc]

1/16

[storm girder]

Dont remember

[lament stump]

Ok

[thorny zinc]

just farm colloseum

[brave cove]

i just spent the past 30 mins getting maestro skill to +1 of highest for main skills

[storm girder]

Guys what do I do to get my mining efficiency up

[zenith hare]

nearly anything in the game tbh

[storm girder]

I have the void area unlocked but I cant mine it☠️

[zenith hare]

progressing worlds is the fastest way

[zenith hare]

doesn't mean you need it

[thorny zinc]

sigils

[pale violet]

i might be trippin but i stg the stamp for for splice gain doesnt work lmao i got it at 20% increase and it feels like im not getting any more than i was to begin with 2k per hr lol

[zenith hare]

base strength and skill afk%

[storm girder]

I need it BC my health is ass

[lament stump]

How long do they spawn in baby yoga

[thorny zinc]

1 per hour

[storm girder]

On the hour

[lament stump]

Oh ok

[storm girder]

I ranked up to copper

🤑

[oak walrus]

24h

[zenith hare]

@thorny zinc @storm girder @lament stump not on the hour anymore

[uneven obsidian]

baba yaga was changed to 24h

[zenith hare]

ever since last update, it's daily

[storm girder]

😭

[sour tulip]

What should I buy in gem shop after printer

[pale violet]

everything

[thorny zinc]

what i didnt know that lol

[pale violet]

jk there is a command for it

[zenith hare]

what world are you

[brave cove]

how do i get my maestro trapping higher than my hunter

i guess the easiest way is to conveniently forget to trap

[sour tulip]

5

[zenith hare]

that command is like 2 years old. it's trash

[true hamlet]

Card slots because they cool

[storm girder]

What's the average hp for world 4

[zenith hare]

that doesnt have w6 gems but eh

[zenith hare]

for what enemies have?

[uneven obsidian]

make so the maestro only place natural trap at the highest critter available

[storm girder]

Nah for my hp

[zenith hare]

fyi: their hp stat hardly matters, all that matters is the acc stat

[zenith hare]

1. you can push easily with 1

[storm girder]

Lol

[true hamlet]

Like maybe 10k to 15k

[zenith hare]

healing foods calc bypasses max hp

[zenith hare]

god no

on dk or bb yes, anyone else no

[uneven obsidian]

lucky if 3k hp on others

[zenith hare]

yeah

[mint rivet]

early w5 moment

[true hamlet]

I mean, fine, average..

[brave cove]

are nature traps the best for exp?

[zenith hare]

mages would be at like 500

[true hamlet]

500 seems more than enough

[brave cove]

well shit i need to get my shinies then

[storm girder]

Oh yeah what location in nebula is the next class

[zenith hare]

its cause 1 is enough

[brave cove]

the 4th map

[zenith hare]

4th map, genies

[storm girder]

Ty

[outer quarry]

bro im not even in full amarok w4 stepped back to lab work and doubling the prints on all char

[lament stump]

What’s the best pickax to mine plat

[outer quarry]

the best you can currently get your hands on

[jolly kiln]

whats a good total stamp level for late world 4?

im nearing 1600

[shadow lark]

dont need more than amarok for w5

[willow jacinth]

The best one you can get

[lament stump]

Yea but gold still can’t get platinum

[shadow lark]

come back later when you have more eff

[willow jacinth]

It's an efficiency thing, not tool

[outer quarry]

efficiency is affected by alot more than pick

have you upgraded your pick as well with stones?

[lament stump]

How do you get efficiency

[shadow lark]

alchemy, stamps, po

[lament stump]

Yea

[outer quarry]

tool stones are a nice add on to any tool efficiency

stones levels and being on the right character also matter to my understanding

I think DK is the best class to mine if im not mistaken

[lament stump]

I’m still in world 3

So I can’t get dk

[exotic swallow]

DK is really ueful

[brave cove]

is this good

[jolly kiln]

squire then

[outer quarry]

the class before dk then

[lament stump]

Ok

[outer quarry]

you still get like 80% of the mining buffs they just go harder on dk

scaling gets better

[brave cove]

well i don't have many more means of getting crystal chance so imma just farm cards i guess

[shadow lark]

do you have choco chip

[shadow lark]

dk isnt any better than base warrior

[brave cove]

it hasn't even been 3 days that i got to w4 for chips

[jolly kiln]

its about 4x better than mine but its probably still too slow for proper crystal farming without cookie chip

[shadow lark]

then forget about crystal chance for now

[outer quarry]

straight up a lie

[brave cove]

so what do i do with my maestro

i just got done skilling with my maestro

[outer quarry]

dk ability skill strengthen affects your skill efficiency scaling with str which effects mining

[shadow lark]

well bb has that too

[outer quarry]

dont have a BB but warrior does not have it

[jolly kiln]

continue skilling till #1 level in all skills(w1-3)

[brave cove]

i already am

[outer quarry]

so getting to w4 upgrades will help him with mining when he can

[shadow lark]

then lab slave

[brave cove]

ah

ok then

should i do anything with my bb then

[jolly kiln]

when in doubt lab slave it is

[shadow lark]

lab

[brave cove]

i could zow or smth

[outer quarry]

im pretty sure everything becomes lab slave kama

[shadow lark]

definitely not zow

[brave cove]

ok so i close the game

[shadow lark]

no you push with es or dk

[brave cove]

they are still pushing past the donuts

[shadow lark]

there you go

[brave cove]

welp i guess i will close the game then

[shadow lark]

theyre quicker active

[brave cove]

they are?

[jolly kiln]

has the bug with journeyman unlock special skill book been fixed yet?

[brave cove]

oh right with the new stuff duh

[brave cove]

nope it has not

[jolly kiln]

sadge

that means the proficiency skill is still borked too

[outer quarry]

whats this bug i havent heard about it

[jolly kiln]

I got this from calling the toilet paper stinky

I cant get the prowess skill from that 😦

[brave cove]

ooh sb time

[jolly kiln]

vault made beginner best class and the stinky skill moved

[oak walrus]

Bugged

[jolly kiln]

but the item id # is the same

[jolly kiln]

yea I know Im waiting for him to fix it

[brave cove]

love it when the game just does this for no reason

[finite mist]

Does multikill affect card drop since it is considered on the mob's base drop table?

I assume a heart means yes

[jolly kiln]

I tried out ie autoreview

um lmao, most of my lack is from stamps

[brave cove]

oh god mid w2 is crazy

[jolly kiln]

Its bc choppin bag refuses to update

kama Im waiting for the site to update rn

[oak walrus]

I sure hope u have crystalin stamp

[jolly kiln]

I do

[brave cove]

you need to update your profile from IE, did you do that

[jolly kiln]

its level 60

[oak walrus]

Nice

[jolly kiln]

Im trying to rn

[brave cove]

oh also why does my sb have so little points compared to my bb when i first got him

11 level difference i guess

[white lintel]

Skill lvls too

[jolly kiln]

IE updated my public but autoreview didnt yet

[white lintel]

And different talent bubble lvls

[white lintel]

Just upload your Json

[brave cove]

do all my characters become lab slave

[jolly kiln]

how would I do that?

[white lintel]

Yes

[white lintel]

Data, copy json, open Scoli review, open side tab, paste JSon in, click submit, wait to load

[jolly kiln]

https://hhhjb01.idleonefficiency.com/world-1/stamps

[jolly kiln]

ty

[jolly kiln]

im literally 1 off from getting 1600

[brave cove]

forgot to remove cranium from my skills and now i have to wait again fuck me

[white lintel]

Not too bad if you have high tent

[jolly kiln]

ty

it still isnt updating my choppin bag stamp wtf

IE still shows it at lvl 70

[oak walrus]

Maybe refresh the page?

[livid vine]

question

it says it will be affected by bubbles rule

[jolly kiln]

it updated finally

a bit better now

[brave cove]

oh my god ES is crazy

[livid vine]

erm, is this an update to carpenter? i'm confused

[oak walrus]

How old is that doc/pic from?

[pale violet]

can u not use this if ur on steam? ive tried to publish my data to use that site but everytime it just says error

[livid vine]

idk i got a few versions of it from ppl awhile back

[oak walrus]

Cause I remember lava did something with those 2

[brave cove]

you cannot

[pale violet]

big sad

[jolly kiln]

that explains alot

[white lintel]

It was nerfed

[jolly kiln]

Im on steam rn

[brave cove]

steam login*

not playing on steam

[jolly kiln]

oh ok

[livid vine]

ahhhh, ty beary. so it doesn't apply anymore?

[jolly kiln]

I use google login so im good

[white lintel]

Unfortunately not

[jolly kiln]

some of these stamp prices make me feel POOR

[pale violet]

does that mean u started playing on browser?

[jolly kiln]

this one I barely afforded

[oak walrus]

I think it was warrior 2nd bubble doesnt work on it anymore but it has now got higher buff

[jolly kiln]

mobile I swap between the 2(wait 5 mins between swap to not mess up cloud save just in case)

[pale violet]

ah

[livid vine]

okay ty

[jolly kiln]

also even on steam id use an email

[livid vine]

i'm trying to improve my construction so idk if this was for w2 group or w3 haha

[jolly kiln]

Ok once I unlock rift its vman grind time

[robust marsh]

How are your deathnote kills

[jolly kiln]

lets goo

[jolly kiln]

100k all w1

100k half of w2

[robust marsh]

Hmmm kills per hour?

[brave cove]

you don't really need to do that, just remember to hit the cloud save button

[jolly kiln]

that crashes my pc

not my phone tho

[brave cove]

i meant on your phone

also why does that crash your pc wtf

[jolly kiln]

yea it works on that but its one way

[jolly kiln]

tf2 settings

[white lintel]

Atom call me bob and carpenter and keep clicking cogs and get 4 zen cogs if you have the extra gems and want to spend them
Also con mastery, vault, and vials

[jolly kiln]

my system is hyperoptimized for tf2 windowed borderless

[robust marsh]

You should probably wait until you can get around 100k+ kph on w1 mobs

[jolly kiln]

I might play it a bit too much

[jolly kiln]

I might just get my maestro skills up then while I grind up my multikill bonuses

[robust marsh]

Good do that

[white lintel]

Sarah why do you have non-DKs on the board?

[jolly kiln]

is this a flat +20% or 20% per tier like the deathnote the wording is a bit weird here

[livid vine]

i'm filling up empty holes until i can replace them haha

[jolly kiln]

like is it like this stamp

either way im getting it up

I got so many orange salt and souls

[robust marsh]

Why are there directional cogs not on players

[livid vine]

?

u mean the bottom right part? they're all fillers

[white lintel]

You need to go for all xp cogs for non directional, and xp or BR for the directional, put all non DK on cog making duty

[robust marsh]

Ye I mean that

[white lintel]

Do this

[livid vine]

oooo i see

well, i'm just filling my board at the bottom part atm

and if u see, i got my last 4 flags almost done XD

[jolly kiln]

im like 4 hrs away from getting the + all stat stamp from xx cattleprod xx!

[buoyant prism]

Is there like a guide what should i made as 6th char?

[jolly kiln]

whatever class u dont have 2 of

for base class and whatever subclass u dont have probably

if u have jman already this changes things

[buoyant prism]

seems like i dont have x2 mages

[white lintel]

First 6 should be each unique class, 7th as DK number 2, 8th as vman, 9th as ES, and 10th leave as begginer for now

[lean perch]

I guess I'll ask here;

What post office boxes should I focus on after fighting and primary skill?

[jolly kiln]

oh so I swapped 7 and 8 lmao cool

[brave cove]

at what point are my characters not lab slaves

[white lintel]

That’s fine, no big deal, 7th DK is just sooner con gains

[jolly kiln]

I got enough con gains rn if I get more my mats for building wouldnt keep up so im good for now

[lean perch]

2100 acc wide lab level is the end goal

[white lintel]

Overall? 2100 lab lvl
For when you can leave, whenever you activate enough of the board and get enough chips for you to be happy, only with Arctis from w5 ofc from real link or pocket divinity

[jolly kiln]

I want to unlock mr massacre so bad rn what bubble in yellow is it?

2nd or 1st w4 bubble

[white lintel]

That sounds like a refinery issue

Or a printing issue

Get Royal sampler

[shadow lark]

What are you gonna level it with

its the first w4 bubble

[jolly kiln]

so its my next unlock then for yellow

[white lintel]

Isn’t it blue salts?

[shadow lark]

it is yeah

which are kinda scarce early w4

[thorny zinc]

so i made the build for xp now i just wait for them to ge to lvl 40 for better cogs?

[shadow lark]

@tulip haven @normal shoal

[white lintel]

Oh boy a scam

[thorny zinc]

[jolly kiln]

copied url

its defo a scam url doesnt match what it links to

[scenic lily]

can i do the 12 million gmush kills before getting the quest for vman? or does it have to be 12 million during the quest

[shadow lark]

you can, if its smart is a different question

mate can you not post the scam link lmao

[jolly kiln]

just realized it auto linked it still

I deleted it

[west pilot]

just don't open it

[jolly kiln]

its a phishing site I scanned it

[west pilot]

what else it would be

[jolly kiln]

Im signed in on steam on my browser

I double checked it via a vm of sorts before touching the link just incase

its so blatently fake steam ui

[shadow lark]

lmao you dont need to scan a free 20$ link on discord to see its a scam

[west pilot]

indeed

[white lintel]

I scanned it with my eyes and analyzed it was a scam

[jolly kiln]

true but I still scanned it bc I wanted to see how the scam works so I can avoid it elsewhere if someone used a dif tactic(I blocked the url redirected to he linked on my browser)

[shadow lark]

[west pilot]

some links can autotrack your stuff if you logged

[jolly kiln]

Im a tf2 player w/ some valued items(not too many but a few unusuals) and people target me w/ steam scams more often than most people unfortunately

[west pilot]

so be careful

[jolly kiln]

didnt type a thing

[west pilot]

no need to type, some links take your account if you just click them

[jolly kiln]

I just copied what it redirected to and blockedi t(javascript blocked entirely b4 it loaded isnt too hard)

[livid vine]

@white lintel why all characters on cogs except dk?

[jolly kiln]

yea just disable the javascript b4 opening

thats how theyd do it

[west pilot]

better be safe and open it on a virtual machine

[white lintel]

1 sec, I’ll show you

[jolly kiln]

my account has 3fa

[west pilot]

even with fa they can be taken

[jolly kiln]

true if they have the cached data they could

my 3fa is literally just family view forsed on

[west pilot]

if you want to actually check those, just do it on virtual machine

[jolly kiln]

w/ a painfully difficult code so they cant do anything

even if on my acc

[coral peak]

!merit3

[candid scarab]

1️⃣ One point into Telekinetic Storage which has an ability to deposit all items in your inventory into the chest while destroying everything on the ground. This is a great quality of life feature. Skip this if you have the ram companion.
2️⃣ Buy until you have 3 building spots and 3 food slots. This can be between 0 and 2 purchases depending on gem shop purchases. Food slots will help your pusher go faster and 3 building spots is a 50% construction speed boost.
3️⃣ Talent levels are hugely important and the library should be used as much as possible.
4️⃣ The 3D printer will be how you get most of you skilling materials in the future. To make good use of it you need your sample size to be as close to the 90% cap as possible.
5️⃣ Buy the rest. More slots = more better.
6️⃣ Leveling telekinetic storage gives up to +13.6% Carry Cap which is good for afking longer, stamps and crafting, but is not a priority early on.
7️⃣ You won't get enough points to consider buying respawn for a long time by which you will have cleared all W3 portals.
Get the first level when you reach rank 3 on orange salt and get another level each time a new salt reaches rank 3.
⚔️ The last recipe is for the Chizoars Caustic Scarf which is best in slot for a long time giving both damage and respawn. Get this when you can complete the associated task of beating Chizoar with 8 characters. Other recipes are for Chizoar gear. The helmet gives +15% damage and can be considered if you are making purple salt. The other pieces are mediocre but some make the chestplate for 3% damage.

[white lintel]

#bot-commands

@livid vine

[livid vine]

i don't get it

what does putting the other characters in the non ultimate cog shelf matter?

[jolly kiln]

true

[white lintel]

bc you want as much xp as you can get

xp= BR

bc lvls = BR

[livid vine]

ooooo

[white lintel]

you remember carpenter?

[livid vine]

yis

[white lintel]

thats why lvls are so important

[livid vine]

ooo

i get it now

[white lintel]

DK's talents give him higher base BR and xp as well

[livid vine]

oh right

i can go upgrade their talents

both of them

[jolly kiln]

is this good lab xp mult for early world 4? or should I go for 3x?

[white lintel]

dont forget tempestous emotions for even more xp

[jolly kiln]

like half of this is from stamp

[livid vine]

which one is this?

[white lintel]

warrior tab last talent

[jolly kiln]

Im curious why do people sleep on stamps so much? they help w/ skilling and crystals alot

and like +3k on my accuracy

[livid vine]

oooo

[wild urchin]

Im genuinely going to crash out again how do i get enough accuracy to clear through like the last 3 maps of w3 and first 4-5 maps of w4

[shadow lark]

vault stamps alchemy

[white lintel]

There’s a reason we tell people to do their stamps and alchemy

[jolly kiln]

stampts, shaqaracy vault

[shadow lark]

clicker games as well

[wild urchin]

Shaquracy is too expensive

[jolly kiln]

once u get that accuracy % stampts give alot(yea clicker games give % accaruacy)

[white lintel]

Stamps, alchemy, roo, owl, vault, gear, talents, dungeons

[wild urchin]

Already did a ton of orion

[jolly kiln]

mines lvl 14 thats good enough for what u want

[shadow lark]

roo

[jolly kiln]

hell even just lvl 5 is good nough for rn

[jolly kiln]

roo gives % accuracy and % money and % afk gains

[wild urchin]

I hate roo sm

[shadow lark]

youre missing out

[jolly kiln]

your just a tad further than I am im one megafish behind

[digital radish]

is this per character or per account?

[jolly kiln]

acc

[wild urchin]

Bloaches are such a problem for me;-;

[jolly kiln]

I have 25/hr

[digital radish]

nice!!!

[jolly kiln]

34/hr*

[wild urchin]

Thats so good

[jolly kiln]

!fishing

!fishingguide

[wild urchin]

Dont do it here

[jolly kiln]

whatever that command was

check that

[wild urchin]

Yea lemme check again

[white lintel]

!fishchart

[candid scarab]

Created by TrazCS#7476

[jolly kiln]

my samples feel weak and your saying 34 is good?

[wild urchin]

Oh i dont sample any fishing stuff

My samples are too weak

[chilly spear]

does cog potency depend on level or just luck?

[wild urchin]

I dont have the merit upgrades

[shadow lark]

both afaik

[chilly spear]

early on you really really wont get many bloaches from sampling

[buoyant prism]

Its like resource generator?

[white lintel]

Max lvl

[buoyant prism]

where do i get it?

[white lintel]

W3

[wild urchin]

Like bro i dont want 3 bloaches per hour😭🙏

[buoyant prism]

im there, but where?

[white lintel]

Do the tutorial quest

[chilly spear]

bloaches are a big bottleneck for people that arent minmaxing obscenely hard from what myself and my friends went through

[livid vine]

do u collect the cogs @white lintel or can i leave it in my cog shelf haha

[jolly kiln]

Im not even minmaxing obscenely hard

[chilly spear]

pre level 30 fishing sucks really bad

[jolly kiln]

its just I kinda left it as a sample for a week

[chilly spear]

but after that you unlock the 3rd fishing zone and then you skyrocket in fishing level immediately

[jolly kiln]

at 34 bc my fishing eff is good from roo

[buoyant prism]

atm trying to reach that damn fishing lake

[wild urchin]

Ig roo is worth it😔

[chilly spear]

you probably wont get very much of anything from the equinox fishing spot until later

[jolly kiln]

it is itd literally instasolve ur problem till w4 elite classes

[shadow lark]

do not do that right now

[white lintel]

I collect cogs every so often, fill up a pannel and then usually delete it all bc its not useful. just replace your lowest xp cog with any that are higher that you just made

[chilly spear]

if anything at all

you should at minimum wait to do that until youre getting vman

[wild urchin]

Bet

[livid vine]

what happens if u don't claim?

[shadow lark]

takes longer to craft new ones

[wild urchin]

I can just leave it behind while i play minecraft

[chilly spear]

they stay in cog shelf but you get new ones significantly slower

[west pilot]

no 99% accuracy and dmg

[wild urchin]

I just hate roo because it seems like its slower than orion

[livid vine]

but does the non ultimate cog ones matter ?

[jolly kiln]

according to ie autoreview I need achievements and star signs rn

[white lintel]

then you keep making cogs but just like library, the amount of cogs you have ready make the next one take longer

[chilly spear]

the faster you get ultimate cogs the better

[livid vine]

does the gray, yellow and red affecct my ultimate?

[jolly kiln]

id have t9 stamps in its guide if I just got the dang fishing rod stamp drop

[white lintel]

if you cant spam click the purple ones suppliment you cog farming with red ones, they can give you good cogs too, even a rare yellow

[jolly kiln]

so my stamps are defo w4 except the fishing rod stamp rn

[white lintel]

when you run out of purple, do red, when you run out of red and purple, do yellow

[shadow lark]

im taking it slow

[jolly kiln]

same ive been taking roo decently slow

I think I need to do regular resets

[west pilot]

close to eclectic 9

[jolly kiln]

5e12 vs 3 e25 for mega

[livid vine]

ah my red is replenishing so fast haha

[jolly kiln]

yea I defo need to do a normal reset ill do it in just a min

[livid vine]

i see what u mean now

[west pilot]

stack on reset points before resetting

remember resets are permanent on roo

[hidden creek]

do gene spirals do anything for breeding pets aside from next pet chance?

[west pilot]

shiny or pet chance

[jolly kiln]

just did it thats what ive been doing

its why my normal resets are so low

I get like 150/reset or more

[hidden creek]

so they dont affect stats okay, wont worry about upgrading earlier pets yet then

[west pilot]

i could get them higher but they're fine for now

[jolly kiln]

getting these 3 takes the longest part of my roo runs

[west pilot]

me when blu fish

[jolly kiln]

but that sweet sweeet accuracy %

[west pilot]

funny how it gets to 99%

[jolly kiln]

blue fish part 1(just getting it once) yippe

[west pilot]

idk if it can actually go higher

[jolly kiln]

Ive seen it over 100%

[west pilot]

then it's just funny number stop

[jolly kiln]

I had it at stuck at 69% for a little while

[west pilot]

🧐

[swift imp]

Hey guys, how do I get a lucky lad trophy on vman? For the equinox cloud

[errant ice]

Why is my fishing so slow?

[lusty sparrow]

Hello my friends, what is the best trap for Shinies?

[jolly kiln]

classic fishing L

[viral vapor]

It just is

[errant ice]

Really?

[viral vapor]

Fishing very sad for long time

[viral vapor]

You get silk traps early that are your go to for a long time. Easy to make with just some salt and froge

(poison froge)

[jolly kiln]

um isnt this upgrade kinda meh tho? I dont feel like feeding my no bubble left behind to it

[digital radish]

is there a guide for construction?

[jolly kiln]

yes

[jolly kiln]

I think theres a command for it

[digital radish]

!construction

[jolly kiln]

why is this flowing backwards?

[shadow lark]

why would it be meh

[viral vapor]

tarn't fish

[zenith hare]

do 99% +99% and round so its only 2 digit

98%, 97%, 96%, etc

[jolly kiln]

oh

its more than 100%/tick

I see

[zenith hare]

more then 50%

[jolly kiln]

im at 146k/hr

[zenith hare]

51% would look like its going down as an example

im just talking visually

[jolly kiln]

ah ok

[zenith hare]

but yeah you get why

[jolly kiln]

ok ive done as much as I can on fisheroo now its waiting on that +23 tar extra reset points

and king worm

[hollow cosmos]

Fill your board with exp cogs
Put only your DK on the board (2 of them if you have 2)
The rest of your character should be on cog production

[jolly kiln]

imma collo and effaunt the last of the monster ratings I need

+all stat stamp woo

[digital radish]

everyone is level 1 rn

[hollow cosmos]

!guide

[candid scarab]

Mid-Late Game guide for World 3 / 4 / 5:
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/e/2PACX-1vSCepYAs6sNDP4iq6MJNAG1pvFXzfC_3IQ7ttt5vfEEKAgQhIk4cQqnLRyeH6UyqDSuP4R-6WQeDmmP/pubhtml
Video Guides (by GriffyBit):
https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLVGSDQs1AcvjYTAPtYV6ofbeeEfHpEcb4

[digital radish]

1 in construction

[hollow cosmos]

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/e/2PACX-1vSCepYAs6sNDP4iq6MJNAG1pvFXzfC_3IQ7ttt5vfEEKAgQhIk4cQqnLRyeH6UyqDSuP4R-6WQeDmmP/pubhtml#
^That's the direct link to the construction one I believe

[jolly kiln]

if I remember correctly 2 bb isnt the worst right(I did this on accident)

[hollow cosmos]

Just have your guys building the first cog and get the cogs as it goes

[digital radish]

and i put my squire on the chessboard?

[hollow cosmos]

Remember to frequently check the cogs and claim them, cause stacking cogs makes getting the next one exponentially longer

[jolly kiln]

only 260 to go

[sour sail]

As a player in w2 just checking whats in w4, my brains exploded, imploded, deploded

[digital radish]

and i should build the 3d printer asap

[jolly kiln]

well some of the stuff we talking about here is from w3

and some from w2 and w1(stamps and roo and owl)

[sour sail]

Both

[cosmic moss]

!it

[candid scarab]

https://idleontoolbox.com/ - Unofficial 3rd party site made by Morojo

[jolly kiln]

remember alchemy is king

[sour sail]

Ok

[jolly kiln]

but dont sleep on the other stuff

alchemy scales off of the other base stat stuff too

[jolly kiln]

For bloaches u can do w2 colloseum for them

I got 300 from 1 run

[digital radish]

now i also need to get the gems for the cristal printer

[zenith hare]

not early on

alchemy gives like 10% of ur stats early on

[jolly kiln]

it gives me about 20% for accuracy and 10% for defense but for the mats it gives closer to what feels like about 25%

of efficiency

[zenith hare]

it doesnt really tbh

[jolly kiln]

It feels like it

[zenith hare]

the level 1 bubbles carries most of that

the 0 resource investment parts

[jolly kiln]

now that I think about it

I might be getting more from stamps rn for efficiency

[zenith hare]

its cause you do

[fiery falcon]

My NEW 8th character does 100k (my highest is 1m) what is going on???

[jolly kiln]

base stats and vault

my 8th char did like 1.5mil max dmg

[white lintel]

account wide bonuses are the most important

[jolly kiln]

at lvl 1 bc of vault being broken for early game

[zenith hare]

lava did rebalance w2/3 mobs to be a bit harder tbf

w4 mobs went unchanged which i agree with

w4 is still "hard" to do if youre going in blind

[white lintel]

I dont think it was enough

[zenith hare]

w2/3 beforehand was completely free

[zenith hare]

the early game was really slow, he made it faster for the cost of needing to do more

if people do more, they deserve to push faster

[jolly kiln]

only end of w2 and early w3

[zenith hare]

still a rebalanve

and tbf w2 is still actual tutorial

like no joke tutorial

[jolly kiln]

so like the lastfew w3 that are actually tough were unchanged

just got 1k bloaches from doing collo

[jolly kiln]

thats how I treated it

I used it more of a learning tool than anything

world 3 I stayed for longer bc salts took a min to understand and get setup

then w4 which I started recently i dont feel quite ready to go to a new world

[zenith hare]

didnt get basic armour or used food then

[jolly kiln]

I have to get armor on my chars ong

[zenith hare]

w2 is very easy to face tank with hemo and copper/iron armour

it was easy before.

[jolly kiln]

I face tanked w3 w/o armor at all

[zenith hare]

like when i did it, 2 years ago

[jolly kiln]

pre vault only my pusher had armor

now most of my chars have atleast copper some getting iron some getting gold