#midgame-chat-w3🧊w4🔮
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my lowest alchemy bubble(that I care for) in the first 2 pages is 15
Mmm, this is a 50/50. equinox isn’t that insane early on
Your not gonna have many challenges you can do, for bonuses
tbh i mainly used balloons and the exp orbs from event to push maestro's levels which didnt take much time for 30-35lv for all
Ahh, this is a classic journey every idleon player must take eventually 
hm good idea i should waste them (not like im going to use exp balloons on anything else)
first orange coin
whatever it is called
Uhh, … pure happiness for you 
new vial and equinox cloud for balljoepickle when
In hopes you find joy opening up the same shop 50+ times
i do kinda wish that lava implemented a renaming system sometime (such a small qol thing and yet i think it would be nice)
starfire
Fr
I kinda do I just buy a pickle daily
its a habbit at this point
its more weird when I forget now, please help
be prepared to do that for bonejoepickle 
lowest lvl char I forgot about him
Ive just been making him get 100k kills for that thing
kills per tier % go brrr
thats his entire job(atm hes getting it up so I can do blue salts)
which actually does something
Memorius
blastphamy
Give me a number, 1-10. And pick up or down
bobjoepickle would never
6 down
lmao

Let me see what this is, and I’ll put my other alt there 
Catching… 
literally up till this mob I have 100k kills now
I guess that’ll do honestly, gotta get those levels out of the way
time to make him go kill pincerman for a day
the pain going from 8k/hr
to this pain
8k an hour, you hate to see it
8k/hr means its nearly only 15 hr
5k/hr means about 20hr
honestly Idc if this is ineffient its funny this one lad is single handedly getting my kills/hr up
only 6mil damage with this
my archer who afks in lab all day(beast master)
does more dmg than this lad with worse gear
Just makes your vman journey even less painful
true
I gotta work on that eventually ill do it after I give rift a tiny go
Slowly pushing w5 now, w6 soon I guess? 
so like a week at most prob less
I don’t think I’ve got back on my main account in awhile, guess I can log in 
Which rift are you currently on?
Im literally gonna do as much as I can in like 1 try
then stop and get vman b4 continueing
Vman isn’t too hard imo. Should be fine 👍 just time consuming
definitely not a lazy man's money making scheme
I definitely havnt spent like
100% of my coins on vault
and stamps
Im at like 1 green per 3-5 hrs rn
Have you finished out p2w tab in alchemy?
I wish I could buy more
not bad no?
I maxxed it a while ago
Pretty good I’d say
That’s all I was wondering, that’s good : )
I hope bobjoe pickle gives over +1000% nothingness at lvl 13
any idea for use?
Also, hello there Remi 
Save, currently what im doing atm
oh yea I have a few of those
which do I put my lower tiers on? or just save it
I got 2 t6 and 1 t8
Lower tier ones can be put on whatever you need at that moment
just from event I dont have any other way to get one
would be goated for nothing trophy
Can keep higher tier ones for later game meals
I suddenly no longer want that
Such as golden food % 
I think Ludwig is gonna make an alt account here soon, he promised me he’d make it awhile ago, and hasn’t done it yet haha
Buddy has been waiting for the early game stage to become easier smh
my alt
Let me see where I’m at 
Ok unfortunaltey unlike you guys I need sleep
cyall
Gn
is it normal that in colosseum world 4, if you enter and press w before moving, it makes you leave and you use up 6 tickets ?
or is it a bug
Yes because below where your standing is a portal, and using W enters that portal
There for, leaving…. I’m sorry for your lose of Colosseum tickets
but shouldnt the portal be closed
Unfortunately not
damn
Amarok
riceball highest skill effi meal?
amarok drops it?
or whipped cocoa
I believe so
what difficulty?
All
The higher the difficulty, the easier it is to drop
I guess? Lots of rarer items in the game
If your early into the game, then yes. It’s quite rare XD
I think it’s whipped, could be wrong
is there a limit to how far i upgrade red salt, or always keep going up?
Don’t take anything I say for later game progression atm Remi, I am very tired 
What it look like with?

not bad ig
🥜 is there not a golden version? Damn
only 100k
should I do quests on my es or my maestro ?
That would explain it
Both : )
well ill go to sleep, adios void
Are you gonna be there to bully Ludwig when he makes that alt account tho Remi?
And goodnight 🌊
I’ll get him to stream it in vc
well, i start my alt with 70usd, 12k gems, so...
😂 he might f2p it
better, im sick
Idk tho, we just have to wait and see 
@fossil hatch you got to w6?
You can see the map in the background 
I am currently focusing on my divinity so I can get the 2x kills

Only on artic atm
i was doing some vman card farming
Why are people calling the God my name now
People you ARE the god man
This is like the third times it’s happenee
i will go ahead and make ES godshard set for now
Arctis the divinity yes, why are you calling me Artic
how do you get more slots for pet fights?
Arena
You just haven’t seen it all the time, I know because I’ve called it that more then 3 times hahaha
I really should make everyone godshard armor
ooh my level 100 pets are mogging on this arena haqhahaha
Was watching a video, and decided to type without looking
I should probably work on my stamp levels a bit more (I'm at 4.1k total stamp level)
Yo is there anyway i can see like what to sample on this class what what to sample on other because am confused af
Warriors-Mining/ore
Mages-chopping/logs
Archers-catching/flies
secret class-mob mats
You should
Bm can print mob mats also if needed
BB is fish
Bb is fish
I think I know the right idea for stamp levels - Should I use my ES to go through 1 stamp at a time for materials?
That’s about it yeah?
as long as it isn't carry capacity that's preventing me
for example, I can't upgrade the mining carry capacity stamp further because I don't have enough carry capacity
Get more carry cap 
I don't have enough green salts as of right now
so I can't upgrade past void bags as of right now until I rank up green again (Since people recommended me to leave it at 0%)
There lots of ways in increase cap
My void bag can hold 13k in one stack
Hmm
I could work on the mason jar stamp
as 1 option, I can buy more from the gem shop as another option
Okay, there's more than I thought, star signs is 1 option
do i start building Atom Collider asap and accept its genna take ages? 9k/hour... 230 days
or come back later?
Come back later
asap??
With that build rate no
quite the opposite of asap
The atom collider to build it requires the last tier of salts
And for it to even be remotely useful you need to be able to produce multi millions of resources easily
dont
For me, I'm not quite there yet for it to be useful
although, to be fair, I've not done reprints for 5 days
few weeks already 
time will fly by and fast when sampling and prints are involded 
I haven’t reprinted in ages
idleon players when they have to resample
Like
I'll try to resample before end of week with ballot bonus
I think my last reprint was like 4 guys in December
but eh idk I'm redoing TD thats been even more longer that I didn't do
And it’s probably gonna stay that way
is auto loot worth it
What are some big ways to improve worship charge rate other than skulls, the ES skills, and the stamp? I know there's the bubble but I feel like i have to wait days for it to full charge
Lol I'd say so, 5$ for never having to worry about missing/picking up loot ever again
yes x1000
did you guys buy souped up tube ?
I haven't
i didnt
how does shimmer island work?
Idk if I can reach ruck sack prayer right now without levelling up my towers a lot more
Oh, that achievement isn't strictly only 777?
rounding issues
should be same as the achiev for gold trade in sailing, you can get it at 776 and 778 as well
Wait, is 10 dice obols in storage good for onyx preperations?
to get a obol dr setup? not sure as you want hexagone and sparkle dice obol as well
True, I could start to work towards that on family tab
you should heavily do that
well im farming golden ham and cheese is it worth making a set of obols for construction,worship, and trapping?
Any tips for beating rift 1 I am one shoting the mobs but I just cant seem to beat it in time
Some tips: ES can use portal to heavily help the task requirement, DK has 1 of the talents that can respawn all monsters if there's 0 on the map.
whatever you want, can do it for slab as well 
👍
How does the arm automation work?
It’s not really refilling my forge at all
I thought I’d need to prime it by putting things inside but that’s not it either
it refills only if there's ore already in there. If your storage is empty of that particular ore though it won't. I believe it deposits the bars to your storage once a day at your daily reset.
when you claim afk gains
So will it fill all the empty slots or just the one slot per ore I’m using right now ?
just the slots with ore
the one with ore and oil
Hmm understood
so like if you have one row with copper, but a second row empty, itll only refill the copper but wont do anything on the empty row
The ring in the gear command for w3 is serrated rex ring right?
yes
how do I print more than 2 bloaches per hojr
get as much as you can from this chart -> #bot-commands message
fishing efficiency is legit so hard
It’s hard with gear and skills, eventually in future worlds you unlock more multipliers
I have 9k mining, 6k chopping, 4k bug catching and like 1k fishing
yes
fishing is definitely one of the slower skills to start early on
I fucked up so bad on the fourth fishing zone
I got random ass upgrades and islands
whaaat
I wonder, is there a guide on what to spend trash and bottle things on ?
autoreview probably has something
If only it wasn’t so goddamn awful to use on mobile
I'm also using my barbarian to push thru world3 so idk I'm multi tasking him
Literally lagging my whole damn phone
reminds me i should probably resample bloaches on my db
Im in divinity jail
Ngl I managed to get rabbit in 2 days I got lucky as shit
Im not complaining
what does the megafeathers do after the tenth one
increase bonuses of orion
Every new one gives a .5 additional multiplier
by like .5 instead of 1x
That’s pretty much something you can literally check in once a day
oh ok ty i was so confused
or never!
Push some more to get more bonuses or push feathers to upgrade them
Im debating mega resetting my roo even tho im still like 30 points behind what i should be just cause in getting one point per day at best
gems n merit
merit?
!merit3
1️⃣ One point into Telekinetic Storage which has an ability to deposit all items in your inventory into the chest while destroying everything on the ground. This is a great quality of life feature. Skip this if you have the ram companion.
2️⃣ Buy until you have 3 building spots and 3 food slots. This can be between 0 and 2 purchases depending on gem shop purchases. Food slots will help your pusher go faster and 3 building spots is a 50% construction speed boost.
3️⃣ Talent levels are hugely important and the library should be used as much as possible.
4️⃣ The 3D printer will be how you get most of you skilling materials in the future. To make good use of it you need your sample size to be as close to the 90% cap as possible.
5️⃣ Buy the rest. More slots = more better.
6️⃣ Leveling telekinetic storage gives up to +13.6% Carry Cap which is good for afking longer, stamps and crafting, but is not a priority early on.
7️⃣ You won't get enough points to consider buying respawn for a long time by which you will have cleared all W3 portals.
Get the first level when you reach rank 3 on orange salt and get another level each time a new salt reaches rank 3.
⚔️ The last recipe is for the Chizoars Caustic Scarf which is best in slot for a long time giving both damage and respawn. Get this when you can complete the associated task of beating Chizoar with 8 characters. Other recipes are for Chizoar gear. The helmet gives +15% damage and can be considered if you are making purple salt. The other pieces are mediocre but some make the chestplate for 3% damage.
these things
oh ok tysm
damn I'm starting to have acc issues in w4
also is golden food worth trying to get
how do i fix that
not right now when your dr is low
alright
there will be beanstalk feature in w6
where u put ur 10k/100k stacks of gfood so they would become passive and give more gfood bonus
question: why can't I see the "damage tier" provided by death note?
You haven’t reached it probably
i definitely do 2x hp with my main char...
You need at minimum 100% accuracy and x2 the damage compared to monster HP
before it'll switch to damage tier (MK)
oh snap i have a blessing on thats maybe making me not
omg, big brain time, whyyy
ironic even
how am I supposed to get serated Rex ring this is gonna take forever in party dungeons bruh
It’s not that bad
wdymmm it's not that bad
I'm doing like 4 damage brk
damn i should resample cus i unlocked deathnote
What is everything that increases boost food effectiveness? I know it can't just be the stamp but I'm struggling to find the other sources
ahhh, forgot about card set
Cooking also has some meals that increases food effect? (might just be golden food only)
Trying to buff up my soulble gum and also figure out why it's at 155% already when I haven't gotten the stamp that high
and I don't think I've ever used the desert card set
i learned of it from the skilling charts
I should probably redo all my skilling 3d prints all at once at some point
with the card set probably soon
Good night, ''Beat wave 50 of Clash of Cans with 3 Poisonic Elders at Lv 5 or higher. Also, you can't sell towers'', I can have other towers or would it just be the 3 poison?
most likely the latter
Is there a max amount of checkouts that the library can hold or does it just keep going?
somewhat infinite but the more it has the slower it gets
so you always want to use your book
bro how do u find people for party
Dungeons?
yes dungeons, you go to the party dungeon and on the top there should be a join others button
using that will take you to a server with tons of people at the party dungeon
wait I should've been doing hourly checkouts?
there is ZERO
then not right now cus it's not happy hour
I've swapped servers like 50 times
do dungeons when it's happy hour
bruh this ain't no taco bell
everywhere is a taco bell if you believe enough
am i missing something? is the upgrade vault not just like stupidly broken?
Get carried, you’ll lvl up in dungeons fast
It’s horribly broken, the new player experience is incredibly easy which leads to lots of neglect with important systems which will bite them in the butt later
like what
i just came back from a 2 month break 😭 wtf is this
for late game i’m assuming the upgrades are mostly additive, nothing too much. early game? oh boy i wish i had this
and im guessing this is either multiplicative from other upgrades or just base coins boosted which makes it stupid af
Late game it’s crazy for the money %
it makes sense why lava added it to speed up early game but it may have speeded it up a bit too much
Early game was already easy enough as is with the owl and roo
well isnt it stupidly broken for death note/whatever the berserker multikill skill is called? from all the power of 10 upgrades
new players when they have to do alchemy (they have 10 lv on bubbles)
the 2nd update to the vault though, now those upgrades are nice
wooo 100k
The free 60% afk gains was also a huge boost
I don't know if most players get there before they stop playing lol
hell the souls increase was 😩👌
then again if they quit that early then clearly they're not the intended audience
Well
I quit the game after reaching something liek carrotmen on my phone, and then I found the game on steam and I haven’t left
the monsters deserve to the taxed idk what you mean
Mines like 11T
yeah i just quadrupled my offline exp gain, and im on an online gain build
i killed one enemy
not necessarily hourly but like whenever you have some, don't let it stack more than 20
that’s like 2 coins
I really hope lava doesn’t nerf w6 mobs when w7 comes out
w6 will be easy when w7 comes out just need the dmg for mk and the accuracy,defense
If you still need acc and def when pushing w6 you have bigger problems
its easy to get
And the dmg and Mk is also the only thing you need rn as well so I’m not sure your point
just need the time
no
when w7 comes out you can candy w6
idleon players dont wait
That’s a lie if I ever heard one
1 Mil plunder kills is all waiting
Monuments is all waiting
I waited 2 weeks for nothing island
Lab is all waiting
Div is all waiting
DB is all waiting
The whole point of the game is to just wait really really efficiently
Plus w5 hole statues, nothing island
Can I leave the trap?
I was told by some taco bell worker I needed to get more accuracy and go to Harvard or else I'm a failure 😭 🙏
explain a bit more?
how get more accuracy (besides shacuracy, fuck you)
trapping. I've put down a cardbox trap. Can I go to a different room or do I have to stay in?
w5 hole = laterns nothing island = pocket watches Lab = balloons/pearls db,div is wait
yeah once the trap is placed you can leave
There's Vault, Alchemy (Secondary stat), Roo, Post office
post office = crystal farm alchemy = print and cc vault is wait
There's also balance of precision (Prayer, once unlocked)
If you increase one of the green bubbles it gives more accuracy idk what it’s called tho
shaquracy, cards, star sign, prayer, stamps, gear/talent on secondary stats, clicker and some other
vault is wait for people that dont have coins tho
imma ask one last time ;3
what char # did you get your secret class
7
7
7th for me
a reddit guide suggests 10, but idk, i feel like with vault its just wrong
so 3 mechanics out of the 5 you both said were wait arent wait not you above me
well im getting my 7 tomorrowish
7 to 10, the later you do him the easier it is
at 460 now but a few chars catching up
i feel like with vault it should be easier earlier
how get lot of bloaches
print 
How come my jungle is not making spices I have killed the jungle enemies but still says your team needs more fight power to forage
Journeyman last quest to maestro is such a pain in the ass
put a pet with the power it says in it
You need a forager
What’s a forager
Green pet
best description i ever heard
Ye I got green beans on it
Send ss
forager type pet, like with a leaf or feet or any other
put a figher pet lmao
you need a fighter
that are idleon players tho
so its normal
!guide
Mid-Late Game guide for World 3 / 4 / 5:
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/e/2PACX-1vSCepYAs6sNDP4iq6MJNAG1pvFXzfC_3IQ7ttt5vfEEKAgQhIk4cQqnLRyeH6UyqDSuP4R-6WQeDmmP/pubhtml
Video Guides (by GriffyBit):
https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLVGSDQs1AcvjYTAPtYV6ofbeeEfHpEcb4
Should have some set up’s here
I'm getting 2 per hour
is that sufficient
i just unlocked fence yard which pets should i shiny first?
I put squirrel there but nothing changed
Depends on your patience
put a pet with sword symbol
Technically a print of 1 per hour is sufficient to max a vial
on the storage tab you can see the genetics, what each type do and if a pet is fighter or forager
Chat how do I get that one star talent that gives crit rate
first is vip library book, second is flurbo shop
Just by the fact that you havnt upgraded the second one it means its pretty bad
what do i do here the lava skull monsters just dont seem to spawn
How do I get it on the library book tho?
the second one is in fact very good, I just don't have enough star point for now
getting a meal will unlock vip book
i have these two unlocked and that's about it
nvm I have enough I think I just put one point on it before to get the mega crit then forgot about it
Wait are you saying you don’t do a comprehensive talent check 3 times a day?
i should probably do a comprehensive talent check considering ive gotten like 60 max talent levels since the last time i upgraded them
maybe but I just proceed to forget the instant I close the talent because I was doing something else that needs to be checked
i think my catcher might still be rocking a level 100 talent
Nah talent levels overrated
How do I push w4, I don’t understand the lab, breeding is weird, it takes so long to open portals and cooking is bad until like 4 weeks later when u have made tons.
is it just me or is 2000 bloach's alot
bloaches are so evil
just let your sb afk/auto for a few minutes
I would prob get like 100m if I resampled
You actually do alchemy some more :D
what does that mean?
What part
Vip membership needed for next book
you need more vip membership % to get newer book
@viral vapor are you actively fishing?
Where can I know that
Dad was faster
you have 25 it need 30 for next
Only one I know on top of my head is the meal
and what string /hook are you using
oh no, I sampled them and then went on to do other things to get my fishing up to sorta make headway.
Search every bonus in Idleon!
at like 7/hr, which was 14... so it took a few days
have you unlocked that yet?
@viral vapor oh thats the problem lol yeah it would be much faster if you used a secret technique to cut out the time between fishes
lab is you put all char in it and forget about it, push to 4th map one char at a time to get their elite class, after getting all you'll want to push with DK (squire) or ES (wizard) while active or BB (barbarian) if you cant active and only afk push
breeding uhhh too lazy to explain
only req is having 2 fishing spots next to eachother
Who should push w4 anyways?
DK or ES if active
BB afk
I think I know what you're talking about; I discovered it by accident
I just tried various combinations of +pow and +purple depth% and kept retaking the sample until I got something I liked. Don't forget slurmin herm and the pearls from the heart boxes
Have you uploaded any characters yet?
@viral vapor if you wanted to i could show you how i catch fish if you wanted to share what world you are in id come to the fishing area
A few but not all at once, I have 7 char
you upload your char in lab, you connect your char to the prism on the far left and try to connect to other lab node while maintaining the light/connection from the prism
more lab level = more line width between character
put the guys in the tube, then you can make a snake over to some panel to light it up, which gives you extra bonuses. AFK time * efficiency = XP = longer lines to go farther and hook up more
But can I perma unlock them?
only if your char are connected to the lab from prism to the lab node
I also have 7 characters; I'm pushing W4 with DK; all other characters are uploaded.
As lab levels increase, the lines representing connection range get longer
lab node are different and pretty strong, noteworthy ones would be x2 print, x3 ref and x2 kill
I have 2/7 elite, bb and dk
DK is all you need for pushing through W4.
To speed up progression, get your other characters' lab levels high enough to reach the Killer Brightside node. Should be around lvl 16 each on avg
get your shaman and hunter to their elite asap
His gear kinda shit tho NGL
For beastmaster and bubo?
yeah
Why?
they'll help greatly for breeding and lab
Ok
I’m trying to push everyone at the same time, I probably shouldn’t do that should I
bubo has a talent that increase lab exp gain and bm has a talent that increase pet power when you hatch an egg, beside other talents
i still dont understand breeding very well
nope, one at a time and all else in lab 
no, try to unlock the x2 kill in lab first
well you can do that but I wouldn't
I did w4 without 2x kills in lab
Craft Amarok chest, legs and shoes, steel bands, and tools, and use a mage to boost WIS via W4 Upgrade Stones
Sure, it can be done, and I did a bunch without it, but I like the faster progression.
I can't wait to reach W5; should only be another day or two
yeah and then you'll say you got to w6 without touching sailing or divinity? because some did (maybe it was you idk)
Ye it was me
why
Whats the point of the lab tho, I tried to upload my characters and push with a character, but I didnt notice a difference
same i didnt really get into the lab very much then took a big break and put a DK in the tube and now im sad i didnt gear up my bubo and stick him in there
Cus I am not a skiller
crazy mofo, rushing >
youre making it a lot harder on yourself not being a skiller imo
I like it that way
the higher your skills the bigger stat sticks you get
I thought serrated Rex were better than bands
technically not rushing if you're not using the provided mechanics.
Just gonna do skilling when I can't kill things quickly enough to progress
you put your char there so they can level up lab level, once uploaded on the mainframe on far left there's a prism you connect your char to that and each other so they gain the light/connection and link to lab nodes to activate them
Also I don’t understanddddddd
thats fair yash
Hmmm sigils
Don’t mind the gear
So I gotta work towards the fourth node?
Get to that skull
you proly won't be able to get to killer brightside yet (skull thing, x2 kill) so get the x3 ref and NBLB alchemy thing
What nblb
Also how long should I keep em in there for, like a week or so?
get to the fourth thing (the alchemy cauldron) and you'll see
let em sit in lab for a while
For a year maybe
forever
lolz
its called lab jail for a reason 
Ouch
tbh ive ignored the lab for the longest time
Idk, is the lab really that important 😭🙏
don't worry there's plenty other jail after that in w5
yes
Me too I only reach killers bright side in it
until you leveled enough, basically you want to rush W5 (it have the same timegated mechanic)
Should I move the people around so that the people not at eliteus yet are offline
But gonna change that after I get that goat god
eh imma ditch out good luck peeps
bye dad
Oh are you the one manually putting it in! Im so sorry, i thought it was automatic. I appreciate your work a lot :>
should i ribbon cabbage
it's pretty good
anything worth? or save for w5/6 upgrades? i have 9k gems rn
The way I see it is that if you're new, ribboning "at least decent" things early to get you going faster is worth it.
the 1 gem 5starifier at least
yeah thats what i was thinkinh
the money neck is nice too especially in late world 5 and w 6
i have every paid pack in the game fyi
its been essential in my vault research 😛
Can i get atom collider into quickrev?
Why would you even want to
Bc. of ez access?
yay
It’s not a mechanic that takes continuous interaction. Most ppl don’t even touch atom collider more than once a day unless they get a huge new resampling
I just want a higher talent lvl cap so i can finally use bubo efficiently
Atom collider doesn’t give that except for the first upgrade in the checkout speed element
3/7 elite
Then how do i get higher max lvl cap? I got told atom collider gives +30lvls
sooo am i fucked for slime or
320 fish per hour wirh 7k fishing efficiency suck my dick 😭
i just hit 200 in arena for the first time and its still going can i quit out of the arena and it save the progress or do i have to go until i die? 
Maybe companion 2.0 will help, but you are indeed fucked for now
Nah that’s literally the best of the first 4. The first 3 are (probably) additive to a huge number of similar bonuses, while the golden ball one is unique unless you get really lucky and get an arcade stamp. Oh and the gold ball arcade upgrade
Slime is also what I’m missing
I think I do have all of the earlier 4
Can anyone in w4 come dance with me im tryna grind achievements and one of them is dance in w4 is at least 5 other ppl
I got 1 other person atm
is there a limit to how many giant mobs can spawn per day?
what server?
Lava 14
when should i get a maestro
Is world 3 one that is worth to push with candies?
So 1 of each sub class
Yes
Once you have all possible options, get a maestro
And you will like one of the skills it has i believe it helps a % of class exp gain so it helps you level faster (id recommend reading up i sort of forgot)
does maestro need to have a high skill level on everything then
The highest in w1-w3 skills yes
Bruh
Highest on everything would take so longg
yes, in the act of actually getting to maestro you need to level up in mining, fishing, chopping and catching to around 25-30 lvls
its a pain, but worth it
U don't have the ram???
does the vault card retirement work
do these work even if you dont have SLAB unlocked?
I remember the archer talent works before w5
Requirements for maestro
Mining Lv32, Smithing Lv35, Choppin' Lv 33.
Fishing Lv 23, Alchemy 25, Catching Lv: 25.
im 60% sure they do becasue i just got a nice +200~ STR in the span of a half a day (last updated IT vs current)
but i could have done something else to cause taht increase in STR
unsure what tho
welcome to the Slime Slighted Suffering Sgroup (im tired and couldnt think of a similar word for group thgat starts with an S)
ok but while I'm leveling maestro I can't do any other skills on characters because then they could surpass him?
dont forget the quest it needs
the whole hoopsies one
thats imo the biggest pain
quite annoying
then again
i pretty much had the required skill levels very quickly compared to most players ig
hoopsies? i forgot which that was
if anyone knows the answer to this pls ping
ima go pass out now
should i try to unlock this or just wait
in general what's a good chance to unlock recipes at
either 15 hoops in a row or 90 total hoops iirc
no i dont think it matters, all your other character will likely be higher skill levels anyways
that was my favvvvv im so good at the hoop minigame
2 more portals and i am finally in w5 
congrats
Is it normal for ES to heavily lag the game after a while?
the jelly fish is a long one
also keep any gold fishing lines that might drop for you. you will thank me later on
What cards should I use to level cooking
ES and Bubo
Crazy AoE
ES, Bubo and sometimes DK have that issue
akshually this portal is the last
the usual skilling cards + mutated mush card
oh even better
btw when should i start his quest for onyx statues?
asap
w5/w6 when you have 1/100 crystal spawn chance, at least 10DR and choco chip, doable without but longer
okay thx
well you can do the first one, its just collect different statue, others are too hard for you
Jup. It takes time to complete the full time line
do i have to periodically redo my traps if i level up skills? is the daily trap collection snap shotted?
it is based on the moment you place the trap, not sure abt cards/shinies proc on daily collection
Hi I have a question, for the Statues talents that you unlock with subclass suhc as "Speed', 'Anvil', and 'Bullseye statue gives more bonuses. does this only affect the character. or every character who has the statues?
I need help with getting this higher
Is there anyway to see how much worship I have on my character without going to a tower defense totem
only for that specific character
only the char who deposited until you gold the statue
individual characters at first, but you will unlock them to be a global bonus for everyone
Thank you all for your help!
U need to stfu, last time I told you if you sent me the better version or whatever that I would update it but u didn't so two refillers are still what I will recommend
got all of these w eggplant lv 81 rn, are there any other breedability speed boosts not listed in insight like hole lamp?
I was sleeping went to sleep at 10 pm had very tiring day + I had woken up at 6 am

Oh mb old man I forgot to ask i apologise, wanna play?
Fair 
What's the general strat for tower defence? Is it still party starter, boulder rollers and kraken?
there are guides here, seach them for specifics you need. until you dont have elders, i think boulder was the go-to
Oh ok thank you
the wiki says maestro needs to be a higher skill level than the other characters to give the buff???
yes.
Ideally your vman/maestro is always higher level in the affected skills then ur other chars yes
what is a good spice gathering team? rn doing snakes and borgars
check guide/s, there are set ups for it.
cant find anyting in tips-n-tricks
thank you!
probably hidden inside the whole pet breeding but theres the sheet 😄
!merit4
1️⃣ Buy one point of spice spillage. This gives you up to a 20% chance to claim all your spices when claiming over an hour of afk gains. Since spices generate more slowly the more you have produced since last claim this will improve spice production.
2️⃣ Having more bubbles get upgraded each day will help a lot, especially when combined with buffs giving more levels per bubble. Only buy this if you can reach the No Bubble Left Behind node in the lab.
3️⃣ Egg capacity is limited and every time the hatchery fills up eggs are wasted until you unlock the rarity upgrade. Also helps you get two achievements with good rewards requiring egg capacity.
4️⃣ Allows you to connect to lab bonuses from slightly farther away which can reduce the number of characters needed in the lab. Note that the max distance between characters, which is called line width, doesn't increase.
5️⃣ Improves kills per hour in W4 but since you likely won't be pushing W4 portals for long this is relatively low priority.
6️⃣ Max level spice spillage triggers every time. They are lower priority since it takes a lot of star talent points and is likely to trigger several times in a row when checking multiple characters.
7️⃣ 3 crystal mobs per day is very little.
Unlocks the recipes for troll armor giving all stat% and the base for all further armor upgrades. It is great but require plenty of Nullo Salt. Don't buy it if you can't craft them.
This took so much candy
Hi I was wondering if my game is broken, because for the "AFK in Kitchen Area for 15" in world 4 starting quests, ive been sitting here for a while and it hasnt moved
Get off the character and afk for 15 minutes
Cooking is an afk skill
OHHHH i cant stay on the character? like I have to switch to another?
yes, afk = swap player
i thought it just wanted me to stand still 😭
Lol, that also make sense
i did that before too, its fine 
how does the refinery or wtv its called work its kinda hard to understand
get salt every cycle if you have materials, rank up salts by refining at max capacity
huh
how I do allat
hrm, what bloach print amount can I aim at in W4? cause barb still at 13/hr and that looks silly low 😛
Doing better than me lol
I should get a bit more serious about this
Around 50
so ranking up redox is a bad idea rn ? i thought that ranking up the red salt is always good
i think youre misunderstanding
It's good to lvl it up
"prior salt"
I don't see any problem here?
mb then i heard that you can screw your refinery very bad if you rank up too much
yes you can
If you are not getting enough resources from printer
makes sense
Oh that merit thingy
yeah i didnt maxed it yet
and probably dont rank up orange until you ranked up red
hey any s & p help here, on peanut 14 w2 town
I am have s and p both
i would like some help please and thanks
hello does the color of shiny change something in breeding ?
no
what is snapshot mean tho in the sampling guide?
equip, go into map, equip sampling set
what it means tho?
does it give something or what
do i have to do each map or?
yes
This is why I just do simple gears and stuff, screw snapshotting
yea screw snapshotting
its complicated yeah
should i finish or should i wait, and is there a general chance threshold where i should finish the recipe
Not really? It's just stupidly tedious
claim as soon as you can
30 is pretty high
How do I use gilded stamp
It’s just there
95
Percentage chance to get one
Yeah 95% off next stamp resource upgrade then
Is there a way for me to know what the next items will be for the lab (like chips and gems) so I can prepare spices ahead of time?
Wiki
Idleon efficiency
I have one and I want to use on worship charge stamp. Will it auto discount?
Yeah
!merit3
1️⃣ One point into Telekinetic Storage which has an ability to deposit all items in your inventory into the chest while destroying everything on the ground. This is a great quality of life feature. Skip this if you have the ram companion.
2️⃣ Buy until you have 3 building spots and 3 food slots. This can be between 0 and 2 purchases depending on gem shop purchases. Food slots will help your pusher go faster and 3 building spots is a 50% construction speed boost.
3️⃣ Talent levels are hugely important and the library should be used as much as possible.
4️⃣ The 3D printer will be how you get most of you skilling materials in the future. To make good use of it you need your sample size to be as close to the 90% cap as possible.
5️⃣ Buy the rest. More slots = more better.
6️⃣ Leveling telekinetic storage gives up to +13.6% Carry Cap which is good for afking longer, stamps and crafting, but is not a priority early on.
7️⃣ You won't get enough points to consider buying respawn for a long time by which you will have cleared all W3 portals.
Get the first level when you reach rank 3 on orange salt and get another level each time a new salt reaches rank 3.
⚔️ The last recipe is for the Chizoars Caustic Scarf which is best in slot for a long time giving both damage and respawn. Get this when you can complete the associated task of beating Chizoar with 8 characters. Other recipes are for Chizoar gear. The helmet gives +15% damage and can be considered if you are making purple salt. The other pieces are mediocre but some make the chestplate for 3% damage.
I don’t have enough red salts as is so it’s greyed out. Didn’t want to waste it on test.
True. I can work on mason jar. Trying to get level 50 clears on worship for equinox cloud
Hmm, I just did it
Probably need to level my towers more first though. I got salt locked so I’m in a bad spot😂
Citric basically needs a voidinator though
Or the purps will slam into the totem at stupid rates
You don't need really high towers, you guage though
I did it with roller, just 2
What level?
Let me check
Numbers aboutta start going off of the grid once more 
Real poetic?
Also damn the break u took really shows 
But knowing you you'll catch up in no time fr
Mine is 17. Should be able to get that by tomorrow. Thanks
np
It was a 3 month break whaddya expect zawg
What was your setup?
?
oh you are less advanced than bean
Pre break and post break I always was behind him but Pre break it wasnt as bad
He has always been
Since the beginning of times
😋
what are the best chips for lab
:p
i have best captain in the game
Dang
i thought i was lucky enough to get ender with arti chance
better luck next time
best captain would need both +1k% cloud discover rate at that level
yeah, so far haven't seen anyone
I think I can finally pass the map
RNG thingie
what char is that
Getting that onyx
2nd ES
finally
u put that elite class in the lab
how can I strongly increase my fishing eff?
right i was indeed doing lab
50%??? so far highest %
||alchemy||
wanna cry
said elite class i got is a bb though should i afk cooking instead or keep doing lab
What's your lab at?
like my lab level? 8, not the best
Definitely keep doing lab then, cooking doesn't speed up until much later
ok
The bonuses from lab are significantly more useful rn
i agree
yooo
Feeling lucky today
why
nice
what should i use the free 5 star cardifier? i heard you can 5 star cards without gemshop anyways so i might as well use it on a card i'll be using long time
Boss
You should use it on a boss card
ctroll
or emperor, or crystal chance card
amazing
smol >:3
How much you have of that? Probably a 1000 or so
he has Sx
how do i get a 3d printer sample cus i need it
do icecream quests, he teaches you
alrighty then
90Sx now
for reference that is 42Qu that poetic has
"All ACTIVE-ONLY kills with your Beast Master now have a 50% chance to speed up progress for the Fenceyard, Spice collection, and Egg production! Crystal Mobs count"
can anyone tell me where this is even MENTIONED in the game, NOT A SINGLE BM skill says this????
you need vman
it's on the whale skill when you have the vman enhance
it's still trash but eh
ooo ok ty, i read this fom autoreview tool
starting off amazing
what is the "meta" setup for extra classes? DK ES SB?
SB hasnt been meta since the hole
basically, get 1 of each at least
second sb is completely worthless
oh what changed?
try approving the 4gold per case approve guy early. trust
wut? how did you get 2 chest on round 1?
the fact that the entire reason you get second sb, is no longer an issue
DK ES Bubo then?
then u can go 2 ways, 2 Sb's or 2 db's
bird
nope, just hold off on 10th
ohhhh
keep it beginner till more master classes release
we dont know how the meta will shift
making 8th rn
if you MUST, second db is best (and its not even for its master class perks)
but master classes will shift that
5 pop!!
second dk is best for you rn
more cycles huh
its for construction, which scales well into endgame
this is legit a strat i do it always when i encounter it early
is there a way to trigger the pink reaper? seems random to me, i always try to approve everything
you need high pop
chances start happening at 5
there is a formula, based on pop
oooooo
and gets more and more frequent the more you have
thanks thanks i didn't knew
I always trade 1 mental hp for 1 chest, am I wrong for this?
yes
mental health can become 2 dismisses
and the chest becomes free at 1 mental health
how
the king bean person
i never trade mental health for chest, but i do trade them for dissmisses when the npc shows up
nono its the cup
and worst case, you can use the dismissal on the king bean riddle to get a chest
finishing game?
best tip is to reject chest attract for 3 days
Yeah like a lake where you can upgrade speed and get perm stats and so
i was doing it but was ported to a party dungeon
decent
chest contents are better the more you advance
ty
this is wired since the path still locked but i was there
and with this char
oh lol didn't knew that
i hate bravery, too boring
it's almost like it's a mid w4 portal
Yo guys
Q: Monster decimator (Barbarian) works for Death Note?
this is the mob beyond that portal.
youre likely already struggling a lot on rams, even with some p2w items
is it not rams?
they were at rams via rando event
just showing why its not a good idea till w4
This is the fishing lake?
yes
oops
i didnt even know it exist until i reach w5
ohh i forgot about vman again, I said i would reattempt speedrun days ago...
what wish does wishing for that wish unlock?
the second not usable one
How many lvls are those
i unlocked every wish, the few last ones are nothing yet XD
Backshots
i just feel like doing it now
can't blame you XD i did the same
same reasoning for w8 bubbles
if i unlock them now i don't have to think about later XD
i wonder if lava will stop at w8
who knows XD
someone has a w9 bubble
loool what? XD
what do you focus your wish on?
rare sight
yeah, i cant remember who but someone in endgame talk was talking ab it
just after vault 2, as you could see it
lol
brb weekly boss
im too lazy for them
that damage is going to go off the screen if you keep at it XD
so close to E23?
some people have higher~
yus
do you know if damageat or above E24 is displayed in E's, or still T's?
i think it is
Ts
it's always T trust
it is?
i know at some point it converts
this is good but now do it on dk
how many quests did u do?
297 so far
upgrade alchemy first bubble a bit
sailing ones would give more
or just equip some dmg chip/food
like im not
i just escape from ohio again
or just get a dmg for all characters buff from braverry rq
wont give enough likely
or just check ur cards again and chips
insane damage
im bad at aiming
aim better (also that map sucks for db)
gimme 1% of ur coin 
crazy how some1 still has 10x more than that
no thats 1 eclipse coin
yup!
does this mean you can talk in #endgame-gen-chat without getting pinched?
is that ur brother?
are the coins multi?
but it money
oh no, anyways
money
sneaking gain = more money in the long run
gold nuggets = more money in the long run
other 2 are wayy better, but not many are in w5 or w6

