midgame-chat-w3🧊w4🔮

[dry bridge]

a question

[zenith hare]

and a few other sources exist which isnt needed but yeah

[dry bridge]

why does my bubo passive keeps messing up when i login to my maestro?

[zenith hare]

wdym by that?

which passive

[dry bridge]

everytime i character swap back to bubo everyone gains 1 extra pixel because of the lab passive

while when i start playing on maestro

it goes back down, severing the line

[zenith hare]

thats likely due to the extra talent levels being weird

[true hamlet]

Yeah I thought so.. My tent max is 151 and it's at 166, + 35 = 201

[zenith hare]

like you know how you go above ur max?

[zenith hare]

get slugged

(rift slug = 1 tier of fury)

[true hamlet]

I'm not going to get slug until 2030

[dry bridge]

i mean i only have 1 point in there, 27 is from family, pet and other +1 talent

[zenith hare]

yeah that could very well be why, afaia the extra levels above ur max is weird to calculate

like it sometimes works but sometimes doesnt

[dry bridge]

what kind of coding is that

[zenith hare]

its hard to check for stats on an inactive character

[dry bridge]

has this ever been reported as a bug?

[zenith hare]

its not in the immediate RAM which is how some bonuses give its effects, like the max talent things

[zenith hare]

yes

[dry bridge]

i guess the easiest solution is not putting 1 point at all to width talent then

[zenith hare]

yes

[dry bridge]

[shy shale]

is it possible to 3d print grass leaves? or even any type of leaf

[real pagoda]

[low arrow]

A huge change

[real pagoda]

the trick is to never sample so you don't improve gradually

[dry bridge]

to the left exp talent isnt working either i think

[lofty crypt]

Ok soo probs a dumb question but guessing you can’t Print bars?

Ahh cause that would be way to easy

[indigo stratus]

You can print base monster material, Ores, Logs, Bugs, and Fish. So, no Souls or Critters either

[thorny zinc]

what class should i use for party dungeon ?

[lofty crypt]

Ohh I should really print some bloach and Fruitflies

[indigo stratus]

For W1 dungeon, Squire/DK

[thorny zinc]

okay thx

[dry bridge]

early on those will be pretty low on printer fyi

[indigo stratus]

Fish are comparatively the hardest to print. Bugs are also slow to accumulate for a while

[elfin grail]

what's the main thing that scales mining efficiency? aside from a pickaxe lol

[lusty zinc]

is lab ever worth focusing on and if yes when should i focus on it?

[indigo stratus]

In the beginning, Brute Efficiency. When you can farm Souls more easily, Skilled Dimwit is also significant.

When you accumulate talent points more easily, Right Hand of Action also makes a further significant difference

[indigo stratus]

Focus on Lab as soon as you reach W4.

My approach is to push to Elite with one character at a time, while the others gain Lab XP. Rotate until all Elites are unlocked.

At the least, you should reach the point of lighting Killer's Brightside without all characters uploaded, to speed up further map pushing

[zenith hare]

cause you have to have the bubo on the right of the chars

for it to work

[zenith hare]

yes and as soon as you get that characters elite class, until you get all base elite classes

[dry bridge]

i moved my bubo to the right most

didnt change anyone's exp when i swapped characters to check

[lusty zinc]

how many characters should i put in?

[zenith hare]

then everyone stays inside minus ur main w4 pusher until you reach w5

[zenith hare]

the answer is yes

well... yes-1

[dry bridge]

as many as you can, preferebly everyone except your main pusher

which should try to push w5 as fast as you can

[lusty zinc]

oh ok ty but only after i unlock the 3rd class on them?

[zenith hare]

yeah

[dry bridge]

yeah

[lusty zinc]

ok ty awesome!

[elfin grail]

thank you. right hand of action would only work if my miner is lower level mining than my maestro right?

[zenith hare]

yes

[dry bridge]

ye you want every skilling character to be lower level then your maestro so you can use the efficiency bonus while sampling on those characters

[lusty zinc]

can my main pusher be my maestro/voidman or is it not a good idea?

[dry bridge]

thats the worst idea you can have tbh

[lusty zinc]

oh wow

[west pilot]

bruh

[dry bridge]

preferebly ES, bubo or DK

[west pilot]

bubo is too weak early

[dry bridge]

true

[west pilot]

ES/Dk active BB afk

[real pagoda]

some more upgrades

[dry bridge]

shouldnt he have bb in lab jail and just use active pusher?

[indigo stratus]

Maestro needs the highest skill levels outright; ties don't count. Also, the Hand skills do not affect Construction or any skills beyond W3

[dry bridge]

early w4 khp afk wont be too helpful for bb

[west pilot]

i mean to use whatever he wants

some people play afk

that's why i mentioned BB

[stable parcel]

thx envelope

[dry bridge]

oh you meant as a sole pusher afk bb and not having active pusher

[west pilot]

as i said, some people don't have the time to push active or leave it running

[lusty zinc]

should i just switch the two up in lab? i use es as active then put it in lab and leave bb when i go afk(?)

or just focus on one character and that's it

[west pilot]

so i mention the active and afk pushers

push only with one

[dry bridge]

preferebly pick one because as long as 1 character reaches w5 all others can benefit and reach w5

[west pilot]

i just mentioned BB in case you couldn't do active

[lusty zinc]

tysm for the help 🙏🏻

[indigo stratus]

I'm pushing through W4 with DK. New ES is too fragile, and monster HP through W4 scales up too much for Wormhole to be effective, limiting mob respawn and negating multikill

[dry bridge]

also to not leave it empty, the reason why it was basically worst idea to have maestro as main pusher is that he doesnt have any powerful afk or active pushing related skills

nor any great aoe clear skills

[lusty zinc]

yeah i noticed the lack of aoe was huge but i thought voidman would fix that issue

[dry bridge]

from my understanding as a fellow new player maestro is mainly for skill efficiency he gives to others so you can get bigger 3d printer samples, while vman you get early w5 is for boosting your combat samples although i still havent checked in depth how vman works

[floral crest]

Anyone got guide for this?

[indigo stratus]

Yeah, Maestro focuses on skilling, and then VMan slowly provides accountwide boosts by getting better Void Speedruns; not recommended before W5

[lusty zinc]

so i don't rly bother trying to take vman now and put maestro in lab already?

[dry bridge]

@west pilot do you know why my bubo's width and lab exp boost talents for other characters stop working when i swap characters?

[dry bridge]

like how you got maestro vman also has requirements to unlock, so just ignore for now

rest of your characters will get their classes when they reach the 4th map in w4

[indigo stratus]

You can put Maestro in Lab temporarily if you need more bonuses lit, but the Hand talents do not apply to Lab

[dry bridge]

right most character i have here is my bubo with exp given to players to left talent and one with gold helm is maestro

this is his exp mult rn

even after moving him to the right of my bubo, his exp mult still doesnt change

[stable parcel]

conjnect him and see if it changes. he isnt connected

idk if 'the xp multi' is how it even works but if you connect him and leave him , then don't worry about it. it will work when he collects gains

[dry bridge]

nope its still same

[stable parcel]

Just trust the code 🤷‍♂️

[dry bridge]

the thing is on my bubo i only have 1 point in exp talent but its 29 because of pet and other minimum talent sources

when i was testing it with width talent instead

other characters were losing width bonus when i swapped off of my bubo

so game probably doesnt calculate min talent levels while character is inactive/afk ?

[stable parcel]

Might be something else. if that was bugged it wouldve been brought up before

[west pilot]

Cloudsave or change map maybe

After you swap the skills

[dry bridge]

but i am not swapping skills

bubo was always in skilling preset

[stable parcel]

The 'turn it off and on again' of idleon.

Just cloudsave on bubo before changing chars

[dry bridge]

this is happening when i am actually cloud saving/changing characters

[mossy star]

lil q, i've started W4 few days ago but I still have amarock gear, what gear is next and when should I focus on getting that gear?

[stable parcel]

When your pusher is getting close to w5 they should have some amount of dementia if not full.
I finished my push with half efaunt half dementia. Lots of people dont do the efaunt though

[cold wraith]

if you want to upgrade work towards 1/2 chiz 1/2 void

[stable parcel]

1/2 void before w5. gonna make me faint sir

[west pilot]

Nah

At that point if you still on amarok. You can just do dementia

Or recraft amarok

With vault buff i doubt upper half chiz lower half void is needed for extra dmg

[stable parcel]

☝️ Yes w4 immediately recraft amarok and go for dementia. Chizoar/void is like maybe end of w5

[dry bridge]

after recrafting amarok or crafting dementia make sure you use w4 stones with your mage

if you are pushing with dk

if not whatever is your accuracy stat, use the stones with the character that uses that stat as main stat

[shadow lark]

why is bubo so fun, probably my favorite elite

[cold wraith]

yes

[atomic fable]

is the current gem in rotation useful? it's +40% lab exp

[dusty apex]

depends, do you need more lab exp?

[atomic fable]

most of my characters are level 10-20 lab wise, but bubo is level 40

[real pagoda]

biggest samples so far

[atomic fable]

and ik late game you want level 2100 lab total

[sleek stone]

Just get it if you have tons of material

[shadow lark]

You definitely want to buy jewels when you can afford them

And that one is pretty cheap

[atomic fable]

True, once you get the jewel once, it's permanent?

[shadow lark]

Yeah

It’ll be in your mainframe ready to be activated by your lab slaves

[atomic fable]

Oh, it's +60% for me since I have another bonus somewhere

yeah, found it, I have the x1.5 jewel bonus active in lab

[heady panther]

any updated list for what trap to use to maximum critters/exp and etc?

[atomic fable]

That'll be helpful once I have to do the level 75 lab phase

[atomic grove]

Should my 7th char be a journeyman?

[shadow lark]

Yea

Or 8th, I liked 7th

[atomic grove]

Alr, thx

[white lintel]

2nd DK is better for 7th slot, and vman should be 8th

[atomic grove]

Whats DK again?

Oh wait nvm

Im going journeyman, he seems cool

[desert sapphire]

question, how does the anvil production pipeline work?

[white lintel]

He’s very useless for a while

[heavy oar]

quest worked on first 3 chars after going to breeding but its not working on vman

[atomic fable]

The 1st useful one out of the beginner classes is maestro I think?

[heavy oar]

"useful"

if u can get ur skills up really good then its good

[cold wraith]

well no matter what you do jman will always be useless till its class is upgarded

[white lintel]

Yea but trying to keep mmans lvls up when you don’t have the account scaled up to actually get xp isn’t worth it when you could probably just get more gains from having higher lvls

[atomic fable]

True, it gets a lot easier in world 5, or even early world 6

[mossy star]

Is the benefit of AFking in the kitchen only for those Ladles?

[dense pine]

yup

[atomic fable]

and cooking exp

[dusty apex]

can get some early cooking levels as well

but its mostly just ladles

[atomic fable]

Other than skill mastery, is the only other benefit of cooking levels efficiency?

[mossy star]

im 15 now in cooking but lvl 100 BB, getting him more class lvls is better for now then?

[dusty apex]

more bravery damage for higher total skill levels

[atomic fable]

Oh, so I probably should start getting my characters as high as possible in skill level? (Being careful to not exceed vman)

[mossy star]

anyone know why that talent I use with the unlimited pet arena entries doesnt work?

same problem with that taste test tongue cooking thingy

[dense pine]

are you using it before you use your 1 daily entry?

[mossy star]

I used it after

is it a Bug or am I using it wrong

[dense pine]

youre meant to use it before

[dense pine]

not sure if its a bug, but it is quite annoying

[zenith hare]

all the talent does is prevent the use of the daily pass

not grants infinite

[mossy star]

ahhh

[zenith hare]

i agree it should be different, but id assume its weird to code to bypass the daily reset timer

[rugged kiln]

Whats a good time to start doing equinox?

[dense pine]

always, basically all the tasks are stuff youll get naturally anyway

so at least unlock it whenever you can

[dreamy shard]

how do you unlock towers for worship?

[dense pine]

construction, middle specifically

[gusty goblet]

Y’all guess what

I GOT LUCKY LAD RAHHHHHH

[dense pine]

gratz

[gusty goblet]

TYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY

ok bye now I’m going to play crk

[dreamy shard]

man world 3 has been the most confusing out of the first 3 😭

[fresh sable]

is there an easy way to get more W4 stones or na

[dense pine]

dw, 4 and 5 are simpler imo

[dense pine]

uograde stones? just the shop

[fresh sable]

f, kk ty

[dense pine]

any time

[hard mango]

was worth 4k gems

[winter valley]

I wasted like 3k

Still with 6k+ gems, dunno what to do i reached world 3

[calm vault]

Buy crystal 3d printer, some alchemy cauldrons, some forge slots, infinilyte anvil, maybe some yang cogs , some sample slots, and save up a bunch

(Anything but spins really)

And also they arent technically wasted as im assuming your doing your saily free spin each day, and those 3k gems got you much closer to the guaranteed jackpot?

[winter valley]

Ngl, im really lost, and i got unlucky and my acc is logged on steam, so i cant play on my phone

[winter valley]

I alr got it, I'm just with some gems packs that gives me like 500 per day for 12 days

Im kinda new on this game got like 19 hrs, but i think getting to world 2 was a bit easy

[calm vault]

Yeah w1 and w2 can go by pretty quick

[winter valley]

Got some tips with time candy and using buffs with them

[calm vault]

W3 is when it got kinda overwhelming for me a little bit

[winter valley]

I got there and i got really confused, and sometimes i don't wanna read a whole wiki to understand

[calm vault]

you mean like, the warrior's +strength buff fot instance?

[winter valley]

I used more experience, and gather more resources

The consumables

[oak tendon]

Guys what should I do in w4

[calm vault]

that's a fine use for the candies, I wouldnt go overboard using them on like ore and fish though. They're very helpful for pushing to new worlds

[oak tendon]

I'm kinda lost with lab

[winter valley]

Yea, and i guess it's easy to get some candies

[calm vault]

One of the most important things for early w4 lab is to get the 2x portal kills node lit up

[winter valley]

Oh, y'all got the 5 star cardfier on the store? Was like 1 gem

[oak tendon]

How far is that bonus?

I've got like the first 4

Up to no bubble left behind

[winter valley]

Oh yeah, i got a bundle too that gives me 3-5 levels to my bubbles on alchemy everyday

I guess is good for all classes

[mild linden]

what does skill efficiency do for trapping?

[calm vault]

Ignore the jewels, its the skulls node at the end

So the very next node for you

[tribal owl]

what should my 9th character be l have 2 of each class except for 2 journeyman l only got 1 but l got 2 mage warrior and archer and they got there elite class and there elite class is different like bloodbeserker and divine knight things like that

[oak tendon]

Ok thanks

I'm working on getting bubo

[calm vault]

Whats your 8th?

[crude moat]

More critters

[oak tendon]

I just need better armor

[calm vault]

Bubo is huge and very important for lab

[mild linden]

does it impact shiny chance?

[tribal owl]

beastmaster and divine knight wait no thats my second divine knight l have 3 warrior a blood berserker a divine knight and another divine knight

[crude moat]

Yes i think

[winter valley]

I need to learn a lot in this game lol

[calm vault]

Perfect, your 9th can be a 3rd mage (most go ES) and your 10th can be a 3rd archer (most go SB)

[winter valley]

I still need to like level up 2 caracthers of mine that are like 78 hrs without doing anything

[crude moat]

We never stop learning

[calm vault]

No, only shiny chance and the shiny snitch prayer affect shiny critters

[tribal owl]

ok

[crude moat]

More critters mean more shiny I would guess

[calm vault]

Without the shiny snitch prayer, you can only earn 1 shiny per trap (and youll have a %chance to earn that shiny)

[calm vault]

Yeah it works weirdly like that

For instance, youll get the same amount of shiny critters from a 20 minute trap as you would a 48 hour trap

[crude moat]

I should reset my traps haven't reset them in 1 year

[winter valley]

Can i suggest smth on this chat really quick to see if yall agree

We should have a keybind for the Quick Ref menu

[crude moat]

Naaaa

[calm vault]

Have it

Or wait

[molten vapor]

i should keep upgrading boulder or full push poisonic?

[calm vault]

Try C

[winter valley]

Im on my phone rn

Is like 1AM on Brazil

[crude moat]

Poison if you can get it

[calm vault]

Boulder rollers pretty legit tho tbh

[winter valley]

I started the game with mage, good pick?

[calm vault]

Yeah is fine, i did the same

[crude moat]

It does not matter ngl

[winter valley]

Bc i tested the 3 classes

And they seem very balanced

[calm vault]

Like i swapped to poisonic a bit earlier too and it wasnt the best decision tbh might be good depending on your construction level tho

[crude moat]

After lvl 10+ you can change it into poisonic

[winter valley]

But mage is the that does not have a passive like the other classes on the early game

[crude moat]

Early game is just rushing to next world ngl so character does not really matter

[calm vault]

The problem I ran into was the cost early game poisonics good damave but man does it make your runs tight

[crude moat]

Fr it does

[winter valley]

I did all the vault before the update

I have 1000% more gold before world 3

[crude moat]

So didn't do my td until my poisonic was lvl 35

[sleek stone]

what poisonic lvl should i use on early?

[crude moat]

[crude moat]

Highest you can get

[winter valley]

So uh, can someone help bc it have a new mechanic on the world 3 for mage, but i don't know it too much

[sleek stone]

lv 7 so far

[calm vault]

Worship?

[sleek stone]

is it good to use?

[winter valley]

Yea

[crude moat]

Use boulder i would suggest

[atomic fable]

So, worship is tower defence

You know the totems you saw earlier before w3?

[winter valley]

Oh no, i need to revive my 2k hours on BTD6

[crude moat]

[winter valley]

Right

[atomic fable]

Now that you've entered w3, interacting with them will give 2 options: Worship and summon

[crude moat]

God w3 td used to suck

[sleek stone]

boulder atleast 24

yeah i think boulder now

[crude moat]

Yee use boulder

[winter valley]

Oh, okay i was confused about finding that

[crude moat]

Its exactly what it says it boosts nothing

[winter valley]

I bought like 2 premuim cogs, is good investment?

[crude moat]

Yee

[keen dirge]

I’ve reached the donut map and I only have 33% hit chance, what can I do to fix this?

[winter valley]

Okay, so far i don't so much about the game, but i want to learn about automation

[sleek stone]

do roo and upgrade your vault

[keen dirge]

do roo???

[sleek stone]

also upgrade your gear and shaquracy bubble

[calm vault]

2 more premium cogs and you unlock excogia maybe better purchase later down the line though

[sleek stone]

buy map on w2 shop and go to crab cake map

[winter valley]

500 each

[sleek stone]

use it on the tree left on top

[keen dirge]

Okay

[winter valley]

I still have 5k, but idk when im gonna buy bundles again lol

[wary night]

Bro, does anyone know why my VIP library isn't dropping book

[keen dirge]

Bruh I’ve upgraded that 12 times already 😭

[deft stone]

Does spoon work on all tables or just the one your standing in front of when u use it?

[calm vault]

Do you have infinity anvil and the crystal 3d printer

[winter valley]

Ok, I'll sleep and try to repair my monitor, see yall soon

[winter valley]

You mean the golden anvil?

Yeah i have all the world 1 items bought

Not all, just the important on the list

Don't worry i don't waste with smth that gonna be trash later

[calm vault]

Ladles work on all tables, from anywhere (but use them in w4 town)

[winter valley]

So, uhm, the flower on the shop, the red one, is good?

[wary night]

does anyone know why my VIP library isn't dropping book

[calm vault]

Ehhh what else is in there?

[calm vault]

Do you have star talent books filtered

[winter valley]

Just the blue one, and the gem that gives 2x more gold i guess

I alr got the 5 star cardfier for 1 gem

[wary night]

What is it like?

[rapid osprey]

Should I unlock equinox when I enter W5 or a bit later?

[calm vault]

Yellow book in your filter pages

[wary night]

No

[calm vault]

Id say hold off this week's limited time shop is pretty week outside the rubyfiers (but those come back very often, purchase them when your in w6)

[deft stone]

Is the elite class change token worth grabbing for future use?

[winter valley]

Okay, I'll sleep rn, so see yall soon!

[wary night]

But somehow after I removed all my filters it dropped

[calm vault]

No, if you didnt mess up youll never need it and if everyone messed up somehow then ittl be back in the shop in no time

[winter valley]

Pray for my monitor to work so i can play

[calm vault]

By unlock do you just mean getting to it? Or completing one of the equinox clouds

Because if you're in w5 then yeah spend a few candies getting to it shouldnt be too rough

[rapid osprey]

Guess both? I'm nearing the end of W4 on my DK and with Vault2 my multikill is fairly high to unlock Rams & Bloodbornes

[calm vault]

Go for it night not be able to get many tasks done but its nice to have

[patent birch]

do time candys work for the cooking recipes (please tell me they do I screwed up every step just to get out of the first world in world 4 to move on 😭 )

[slender lichen]

no (at least im 90% sure they dont)

[inner sail]

nope, use ladels

if ur in a pinch u can get a good amount from the w4 arena to boost ur proggies

[patent birch]

I cant take it anymore

[calm vault]

Have your characters afk in the kitchen and theyll generate cooking candies (called ladles)

[slender lichen]

wait....

if you need to afk for ladles couldnt you just idk use a time candy while in the kitchen to generate one?

[calm vault]

be a lot cooler if you could but sadly no

[slender lichen]

BRUH

https://tenor.com/view/yakuza-gif-18148683

[slender lichen]

trust me world 4 progression is very slow

take your time to get used to it

[little imp]

I'm on the quest for Bill Brr called "fairly odd damage" where I have to deal odd damage 8 times in a row, is there a trick to it or do I just have to get lucky

[hazy stream]

does anyone have any tips at all for the rift 17/31 challenge

like is it really just RNG

[deft stone]

Should I not be ranking these up? I recall readying somewhere a while back that its better to keep some at lower ranks or ssomething like that? Dont wanna brick this like I did my Kangaroo lol

[river sapphire]

For the quest Royal Bidding, I'm doing the crystal kills. does it have to be crystal kills in w4? I'm seeing a LOT that aren't counting towards the quest

welp. based on quick test. yes it's only w4 crystal kills that count. womp womp

[timid cave]

Always rank red up, regardless of situation, the rest of the salts you can check by looking at the power per cycle of the previous and the amount needed for the next salt

[slender lichen]

there is a chart but yeah follow what fcrack said

[blazing orchid]

is there ever a lab expansion unlocked? i know i can get jewels, but those take a while to unlock and i'm just wondering if there's further bonuses behind Viral Connection

[dusty harness]

you'll unlock them eventually

theres quite a few

[slender lichen]

i mean dont jewels come from the gem shop too?

[floral pond]

how does 3D printer work

[slender lichen]

star tab has a new thing

called sample collection

use that skill to collect a sample

then go to 3d printer and select the sample to print it

[floral pond]

what can i sample

[slender lichen]

it will eventually deposit the items into the chest

[floral pond]

like just materials

like wood and stuff

[wet oracle]

materials, mob drops

[floral pond]

oh thats cool

thanks for the help

[slender lichen]

if you really wanted to you could even print fish and bugs

[lavish meteor]

Is there a way i can use the Lab without throwing players into them?

[indigo stratus]

How good is vman? Should I start w5 content or grind for vman

[faint bramble]

Not 100% main thing is something in w5 allows the lab to be active while you play

[faint bramble]

VMan is amazing

[steel gyro]

How to get krunk token? I’m mining 33 and when I talk to him, it’s just chat and no quest

[faint bramble]

Level up more

[indigo stratus]

I think you need to be lvl 40

[steel gyro]

Okay

Thank god i tried asking here, I asked #newplayer-chat-w1🍀w2⏳ but no answer

[blazing orchid]

yeah but i haven't got any good methods of getting gems and even still you can buy up to 2 per week at max

[slender lichen]

w5 stuff (divinity allows you to do it)

[slender lichen]

just print gems ||if you cant tell its a joke lad||

being serious though

[blazing orchid]

picnic basket daily?

[slender lichen]

wait that gives gems?

[blazing orchid]

i thought so

[slender lichen]

huh i just usually gamble for my gems (and also valenslime boxes are kinda op)

[blazing orchid]

it gives 1 gem 💀

[blazing orchid]

yeah that's true arcade is decent for gems and i also get a couple from level up rewards but valenslime boxes won't be around forevver

[slender lichen]

bro that is the same as just using alchemy to get the gems

[slender lichen]

bosses also drop gems but idk how reliable that is (besides its locked behind task unlocks)

[blazing orchid]

i think they drop a lot less frequently now

[slender lichen]

lava did say he was going to change how gems will drop though

[civic blade]

is this the best setup ?

[slender lichen]

ngl i forgor

i think thats correct but i wouldnt remember

[civic blade]

arena and splice should have a 2x-4x speed this is insane

[sleek pollen]

https://imgur.com/a/TVewfif

[sleek pollen]

like you have but you're missing another refiller in the front

[civic blade]

no blocker ?

[sleek pollen]

you have 6 slot, rattler looter monolith refiller defender refiller

I see that one little slot

locked slot are usually on the left side

being in w6 territory battle with only 5 pet would be horrendous

yeah same though something was up x)

[civic blade]

i didnt notice the extra slot cuz the slime was all over the place lmao

[atomic fable]

I still only have 4 pet slots, but I don't have many pets yet

[sleek pollen]

you're w6 already go get all 6 slot

[latent fjord]

I equipt the trap, but how do I place this thing? I'm at the area for frog critters

[sleek pollen]

top left plateform there should be frogs, indicating thats it there you place traps

[lofty crypt]

Yeah I’m dumb cause I can catch the frogs but where is the poison frog?

[sleek pollen]

at frogs, rarer

shiny is critter but rare version

[lofty crypt]

Ahh so tis a game of luck

[sleek pollen]

ye

[lofty crypt]

Sucks I can’t even get a better trap cause I need ze poison froge

[red compass]

yep ull have to rng ur way thru at first

[limpid flint]

U gotta start the quest from the lord of the hunt first tho, the froggies dont spawn if u dont start the quest

[red compass]

but low time traps are same shiny rate so i think u can j spam those for a lil

[rapid bane]

Does going further than round 200 in pet arena do anything?

[astral lava]

Nah

But if u are still beating the 200 thing, u should reach 201

[dull jewel]

Is there a stamp that makes combustion cycles faster

What's it called?

[dull jewel]

ty

[ancient arch]

can anyone explain what this does? the first read seems like it should prevent saltlock issues but obviously that can't be the case

[zenith junco]

reduces the salt casts by a lot

is all you have to know

[ancient arch]

maybe i had it proactively for blue or something so i didn't see

[fast ridge]

So... the first upgrade makes it so that orange takes an amount of red salt relative to power output instead of component cost, which makes it cheaper on salt with higher ranks. The second purchase applies to blue, and so on.
You still have to rank then up manually.

[indigo stratus]

Reflective Eyesight talent is your best bet in the beginning.

Later, you can unlock the Shiny Snitch prayer, which boosts Shiny quantity, at the cost of probability

[obtuse trout]

what should i put my lvl 16 ribbon on

[floral fulcrum]

i got 9 merit points in world 4, what are the priority perks you would say i immediately need in the shop

[zenith junco]

best thing is golden food, but if you dont have high levels on meals i would safe it

[obtuse trout]

!merit4

[candid scarab]

1️⃣ Buy one point of spice spillage. This gives you up to a 20% chance to claim all your spices when claiming over an hour of afk gains. Since spices generate more slowly the more you have produced since last claim this will improve spice production.
2️⃣ Having more bubbles get upgraded each day will help a lot, especially when combined with buffs giving more levels per bubble. Only buy this if you can reach the No Bubble Left Behind node in the lab.
3️⃣ Egg capacity is limited and every time the hatchery fills up eggs are wasted until you unlock the rarity upgrade. Also helps you get two achievements with good rewards requiring egg capacity.
4️⃣ Allows you to connect to lab bonuses from slightly farther away which can reduce the number of characters needed in the lab. Note that the max distance between characters, which is called line width, doesn't increase.
5️⃣ Improves kills per hour in W4 but since you likely won't be pushing W4 portals for long this is relatively low priority.
6️⃣ Max level spice spillage triggers every time. They are lower priority since it takes a lot of star talent points and is likely to trigger several times in a row when checking multiple characters.
7️⃣ 3 crystal mobs per day is very little.
Unlocks the recipes for troll armor giving all stat% and the base for all further armor upgrades. It is great but require plenty of Nullo Salt. Don't buy it if you can't craft them.

[obtuse trout]

cheers

does this mean reach wave 50 with the first 6 towers? idk why but my brain isnt comprehending this

[atomic fable]

It's the 1st 6 totems (2 in world 1, 1 in world 2-5)

[obtuse trout]

ah thought thats what it meant.

[drifting pier]

where should i use my 100k ladles?

[obtuse trout]

100k!!!!???

[sleek pollen]

have different meals, like cooking speed, golden food and sum other idk

[drifting pier]

yea for the equinox

[drifting pier]

oh yea duh for some reason i forget the kitchens can all cook different things

[atomic fable]

is there a maximum level for each kitchen station?

[sleek pollen]

no idea

[zenith junco]

All at once at the meal that takes the least to cook :3

[sleek pollen]

best guess is infinite but cost keep increasing so you wont be able to afford it

[zenith junco]

[sleek pollen]

turkey x10

[zenith junco]

turkey Poggies

[warm reef]

when should I go from Bloques to Clammies for femurs? bloques feel way too slow to get bones now

[zenith junco]

I'm jamming so hard rn

[zenith junco]

Once you can survive and hit them

[sleek pollen]

db guide surely say it

like when you have a certain acc to hit it

[dull jewel]

Is there anyway to make combustion cycles faster besides the vial, salt lick and the stamp?

[warm reef]

do you typically only move on once you have 100% accuracy or is it more just a certain breakpoint?

[zenith junco]

shiny pets

[sleek pollen]

@dull jewel

all the sources

[dull jewel]

ty

[sleek pollen]

[dull jewel]

Is there a website that optimizes your cogs?

[sleek pollen]

woops wrong ping lmao

mb 🤦‍♂️

[zenith junco]

https://idleon.wiki/wiki/Construction this might help you aswell

[dull jewel]

tyty

[zenith junco]

The wiki is your friend not your enemy

[dull jewel]

says page doesn't exist 😛

[sleek pollen]

constructionthig

[zenith junco]

oppsies

[dull jewel]

ohh lmao

[wild urchin]

uhh how long was the 2 warn mute?

[zenith junco]

i did a oopsie

Oh lil bro is back ❤️

[dull jewel]

Should I only refine redox salts when it's capped to rankup?

[wild urchin]

glad i did that last night helped me go to sleep

[sleek pollen]

a few hours max, like 3 maybe

[zenith junco]

your welcome

gladly do it again

[dull jewel]

I'm bottlenecked for salt, I can't build anything cause it takes a few days to cap out

[wild urchin]

how many warns for a ban?

[white lintel]

im back yay

[wild urchin]

lemme see if anything is written about that

[sleek pollen]

7 I think

[white lintel]

im at 3 warns rn :(

[wild urchin]

does it also ban your game account?

[sleek pollen]

hiyo my dear big ice blue god bear

[zenith junco]

arctis what did you do?

[white lintel]

exist

[zenith junco]

oof

[sleek pollen]

just discord no ingame, unless cheating

[white lintel]

heyo dad

[wild urchin]

ok nice

[sleek pollen]

the blabbering in w5 chat earlier today?

[zenith junco]

well he talked about a thing you are not allowed to do as described in rule 4

[white lintel]

it was like 10 mins after that ended that I got warned

[sleek pollen]

ah

[white lintel]

I was talking in w3 about mman and got cut off

[wild urchin]

do i keep going im at fractal 3 on orion rn

[zenith junco]

yes

go for 100

[white lintel]

go for like fractal 5 or 10 depending on how much you hate yourself

[sleek pollen]

12 fractal

[wild urchin]

its so boring to doo

[sleek pollen]

yes

but you're future you will be happy to have these bonus

like you in a few hours or days or weeks idk

[white lintel]

months

[wild urchin]

im already happy

my accuracy went from 1.7k to 2.1k

[obtuse trout]

should i start sigils? like get base unlocks are nah

[sleek pollen]

first 3-4 can be considered, after that its prefered to go back to alchemy cauldron for bubbles

[novel isle]

I have DK, Does the second strike on "Double Strike" can trigger "Imbued Shockwave"?

[sleek pollen]

nope

or I am really unlocky with these odds and never seen my DK double auto wave slash but it shouldn't be triggered

[stable fractal]

what should some goals of mine be before i start pushing through W4? I feel a bit lost lol

[white lintel]

get all elites

[wild urchin]

alr im gonna stop at fractal 4 for now

[sleek pollen]

@zenith junco long lost brother of yours?

[stable fractal]

just finished all my elites besides my journeyman

[sleek pollen]

well active push with DK or ES, or afk push with BB if you cant active, and have all char in lab jail

[zenith junco]

nope

[sleek pollen]

[rapid bane]

Id say start from now, some big bonuses in w4. If you can try to push your construction to get the mechanical arm so you can get the auto food restock

[white lintel]

thats nona

[rapid bane]

Because once you get to w4 you will have a defence problem, so also try to get some dementia bars ready to be able to craft the armor

[sleek pollen]

eat your pain away through food

[white lintel]

fix defense with the vault

[atomic fable]

I think starting at world 4, you will probably need healing food

[stable fractal]

i can only reach the 3d printer bonus in the lab, is it still worth just lab locking all my characters at this point?

[jaunty hemlock]

i watched youtube and noticed about this statue on world 4 but how?

[sleek pollen]

yeah let your char in lab so they gain level and increase they lab line width to connect to more node

[stable fractal]

ok thanks

[white lintel]

shrines on da dinnner table

[rapid bane]

Push each character one by one to the 4th map to get the next classes

While the rest in lab

[sleek pollen]

.

[ancient arch]

i'm always like "i don't want to resample" and then i do and my output multiplies by 5x or more

[white lintel]

1 upgrade away from village xp on grimoire

[glossy surge]

this might be a pretty dumb question, but how are you supposed to use squire construction talents effectively? like right now I'm just pushing map with every character, but am I just supposed to leave my squire chopping trees so that I can keep the construction talents on?

also is it even mandatory to push the map with every single character to the boss? or should I just worry about that with one character while the rest do other stuff like farming

[sleek pollen]

at one point you'll have/want to up the construction talent on your fighting preset so its always active
also why squire chopping trees?

[sleek pollen]

and nope only one need to push, other can farm resource or rare drops, or like level up

[glossy surge]

wait mb not trees i meant mining

[sleek pollen]

[glossy surge]

oh is it more efficient to level up in a certain area than just going further on the map?

[sleek pollen]

at first you only want to push with one char, then eventually get everyone to boss room for keys in w1 to w3, and boss kills task for all worlds

[glossy surge]

yeah that's what I read that made me push to boss on every character

and then only farming when I immediately need it

[sleek pollen]

no not necessarily, best map to lvl up is usually last map you got, or like one of the last

[sleek pollen]

don't push now with all char, when you'll get stronger, like getting better gear or upgrading account wide bonus it'll be even more easy to push with the other char

[glossy surge]

alright so you think I should just be farming ingredients / rare drops with all my other characters?

[glossy surge]

This is the same for shaman for alchemy right? also around what level is it recommended to have both on one preset

[sleek pollen]

yeah farm like whatever you want, be it monster drop or skilling resource to craft better gear, or like upgrading your bubbles, stamps or vials, beside some other thing

[white lintel]

not lvl, just when you have enough talent points which can also be gotten from alchemy

[sleek pollen]

yeah.
max

like when you will max the combat talents you'll want to max the constructionn/alchemy talents

[glossy surge]

okay yeah that makes sense

I guess I've been too lazy for the bubbles and vials and stuff

it's kinda overwhelming trying to micro manage 7 characters lol

[white lintel]

you wont get all the talents until you can atom the talent bubbles, so dont worru about maxing your talent page rn

[glossy surge]

yeah i gotchu

also is there a recommended character that is most optimal for it to be the one pushing maps to get to boss

I've just been doing it on my barbarian cause it was my first char but i feel like I should have someone else do it since I want him to be fishing

https://imgur.com/5GmuZvH these are what I have, bout to make a 2nd squire with my 7th char for construction

[white lintel]

barb is best for afk, but once you hit w4, active farming and pushing becomes relavent and you may want to consider using DK instead, especially since hes important for farming other things as well

DK is squire

[candid garnet]

!gear

[candid scarab]

Gear Recommendations

[surreal bane]

is cooking level is same on everyone or different?

[atomic fable]

Different

each of your characters has their own cooking level

[white lintel]

cooking lvl isnt that important tho

[sleek pollen]

shared skill level are w4 breeding, w5 gaming and sailing, w6 farming and summoning

[white lintel]

technically no

but basically yes

[echo radish]

Erm u shouldn't be sleeping on bravery damage like that

[white lintel]

yes, but for cooking its not important is what i mean

[echo radish]

Fair

[wind ridge]

i unlocked the last bubble for alchemy but then i unlocked 2 after it but since there isnt any does that mean ill just get the next 2 if new ones come out?

[surreal bane]

any of these stone even needed?

[sleek pollen]

you can pre unlock w7 bubbles

even w8 or w9 but thats not happening

[wind ridge]

k makes sense then

[wind ridge]

for a while atleast

could in like 2026 or 2027

[sleek pollen]

either get all w6 bubble then switch to liquid cauldron or get w7 to prep then go to liquid

[sleek pollen]

can trash those

[surreal bane]

non good right?

[dull jewel]

Is this talent good?

[atomic fable]

Is it just me that's struggling on dungeons for equinox?

[white lintel]

get someone to carry you

[sleek pollen]

useless because they are either random, make you lose upgrade slot or just because other upgrade stone from town vendor are better

[white lintel]

I can carry you

[atomic fable]

1 of the quests is to max 5 of the 7 stats

[white lintel]

I think

[sleek pollen]

doing weekly HH run should make that dream pretty easy to complete

if you can get the prayer that x2 your flurbo and credit at the end and x2 your ticket used its even faster

[atomic fable]

I don't have that prayer yet

[sleek pollen]

ah

[surreal bane]

is there any way to up shrines effectiveness for more then 1 map?

[white lintel]

2 ways

1 in w4 1 in w5

[surreal bane]

tell me w4 one

[white lintel]

lab bonus

[sleek pollen]

https://imgur.com/a/IHSZG37

[surreal bane]

how far is it?

[golden cloak]

!merit3

[candid scarab]

1️⃣ One point into Telekinetic Storage which has an ability to deposit all items in your inventory into the chest while destroying everything on the ground. This is a great quality of life feature. Skip this if you have the ram companion.
2️⃣ Buy until you have 3 building spots and 3 food slots. This can be between 0 and 2 purchases depending on gem shop purchases. Food slots will help your pusher go faster and 3 building spots is a 50% construction speed boost.
3️⃣ Talent levels are hugely important and the library should be used as much as possible.
4️⃣ The 3D printer will be how you get most of you skilling materials in the future. To make good use of it you need your sample size to be as close to the 90% cap as possible.
5️⃣ Buy the rest. More slots = more better.
6️⃣ Leveling telekinetic storage gives up to +13.6% Carry Cap which is good for afking longer, stamps and crafting, but is not a priority early on.
7️⃣ You won't get enough points to consider buying respawn for a long time by which you will have cleared all W3 portals.
Get the first level when you reach rank 3 on orange salt and get another level each time a new salt reaches rank 3.
⚔️ The last recipe is for the Chizoars Caustic Scarf which is best in slot for a long time giving both damage and respawn. Get this when you can complete the associated task of beating Chizoar with 8 characters. Other recipes are for Chizoar gear. The helmet gives +15% damage and can be considered if you are making purple salt. The other pieces are mediocre but some make the chestplate for 3% damage.

[white lintel]

#bot-commands

[surreal bane]

ty

[sleek pollen]

lab node is you get exp from every map of the same world as long as shrine is in town
moai is you get the shrine effect from any map of any world

[white lintel]

me when I lie

read the description

[sleek pollen]

me when I spread misinformation

[white lintel]

[sleek pollen]

what the description? is that some w7 skill?

[white lintel]

yea it comes with the reading skill

[sleek pollen]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-gif-16847314810084971000

[surreal bane]

how to get far in lab

[sleek pollen]

afk more in lab

[surreal bane]

cant steach far

[stable fractal]

do i always want to wait till my red salts can upgrade before I refine?

[white lintel]

it gets better

[white lintel]

red salts alwasya at 0% autorefine

[surreal bane]

doing with 2 rn i got like 8 char

[stable fractal]

so wait till i cap then manually refine always?

[sleek pollen]

only click on the button when its at 100% and you can rank up instead

[stable fractal]

ok will do ty

[sleek pollen]

all char in lab while one is pushing

[sleek stone]

Just got whale what to do with it

[surreal bane]

who are the best suited for push?

[sleek pollen]

badumdum

[sleek pollen]

active push DK or ES
afk push BB

[white lintel]

DK for active, BB for afk

[sleek stone]

Yeah its badumdum

[sleek pollen]

you do the bad then whale will dumdum

[sleek stone]

How to use it tho

[surreal bane]

then i will slot my 6 char out of 8

[sleek pollen]

combat or spice?

[sleek stone]

Spice

I know its a spice pets

[sleek pollen]

whale boost speed of above and below

[sleek pollen]

also somewhat good in fight

[white lintel]

laggy

[sleek pollen]

ye

[sleek stone]

Whats the best spice to push with it

[sleek pollen]

'somwhat" till you get better or all slot

[surreal bane]

do i need to up lab boots?

[sleek pollen]

!guide see pet tab or zoro's 📌

[candid scarab]

Mid-Late Game guide for World 3 / 4 / 5:
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/e/2PACX-1vSCepYAs6sNDP4iq6MJNAG1pvFXzfC_3IQ7ttt5vfEEKAgQhIk4cQqnLRyeH6UyqDSuP4R-6WQeDmmP/pubhtml
Video Guides (by GriffyBit):
https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLVGSDQs1AcvjYTAPtYV6ofbeeEfHpEcb4

[sleek pollen]

optionnal

[sleek stone]

Im unlock till the crypt

[sleek stone]

I always forget about this

[white lintel]

youre not playing idleon unless you have several spreadsheets either open or bookmarked

[sleek stone]

I open all except that

Always close it and forget about it

[unborn sigil]

!merit5

[candid scarab]

1️⃣ W5 skill XP will speed up the divinity grind since it helps unlock stronger styles faster.
2️⃣ Aim to keep the loot pile capacity greater than your ship count so you can claim two entire cycles at once without waste.
3️⃣ Mob respawn will help afk kills in W5.
4️⃣ Total all stats will slightly improve most things. Don't buy it if you don't have the star talent points to use it.
5️⃣ Tab 4 talent points can be scarce but you only get 3 per purchase and there are a lot of other ways to get them including class lvls, skill lvls and the alchemy bubbles.
⚛️ The Atom Collider is the last building on the top row of construction requiring Nullo Salt and 10s of millions of resources to use. The discount should be bought before you start buying atom upgrades.
⚔️ The last boss recipe is The Divine Scarf which is among the best items in the game and reasonably easy to craft. This recipe should be gotten as soon as the task of beating nightmare Kruk on all characters can be completed. Earlier recipes are for armor and weapons most of which gives mob respawn significantly improving kills per hour. Get these if you can afford to craft them.

[white lintel]

#bot-commands

[sleek pollen]

uhh yeah

[sleek pollen]

we are all just the same in the end

[white lintel]

you have like 3 different sample set ups lol

4

[sleek pollen]

hmm can you send me some of those spreadsheet I do not have
like the db, farming and gaming?

[sleek pollen]

yeah most were random till I saw trialpears sampling setup

[white lintel]

check dms

[surreal bane]

do i need to equip this or is it already on?

[white lintel]

passive means always on

[atomic fable]

Tbh, have I made dungeons harder because I have most rng items unlocked?

[true hamlet]

Maybe?

What do you think makes it harder?

[white lintel]

kinda

[atomic fable]

I probably made it more luck based?

[true hamlet]

I mean, whether or not you have them unlocked, you'll still be able to clear easily anyways

There's good rng items from achievements that balance it out

[white lintel]

either way its not too big of a deal

[stray drift]

Whats the best class to use when killing lava skulls in rift

[white lintel]

Bubo, ES, SB, anything that doesnt map wipe

[stray drift]

Hmm

My es just wiped the map xD

[white lintel]

take off meteor

omg hi Keilen

awww

[turbid stag]

Hi
I was gonna say that db could be good but I haven't tested that

[true hamlet]

More of chainbolt

[white lintel]

then take that off

[true hamlet]

All the skulls get pushed to the graveyards

[lone swan]

is the stamp stack in the event shop permanent ? i spelt the wrong

[true hamlet]

Not very good

[white lintel]

sad

[lone swan]

ok thanks

[icy mantle]

is there any tower defense guides

[lone swan]

why do i get so little bugs / hour

[merry tendon]

Is there a guide sheet for clash of cans td

[turbid stag]

Yes give me a sec

[merry tendon]

Alright bet!

[icy mantle]

you can increase it with these

[turbid stag]

https://discord.com/channels/437797104786604034/1277368276095336558 @merry tendon @icy mantle

[icy mantle]

ty

[stable crypt]

Can someone send a picture of the atom colider upgrade where you get extra max talent lvls for the library so i know which one it is?

[exotic holly]

How can I get more build rate?

[turbid stag]

Focus on Exp cogs and upgrading carpenter bubble

[exotic holly]

Ok what level is a point when I should stop leveling construction my guy is already 114

[white lintel]

Uhh never

[exotic holly]

Or stop focusing on exp I mean

[turbid stag]

Never you want to get exp always and as high level possible

[exotic holly]

👍

[merry tendon]

It says no access for me and I don’t see channel and roles and I can’t type in read me

[icy mantle]

this guides require too much lvl for towers is there any like mid game ones? 😭

[turbid stag]

It is in the read me chanel for tips and tricks

[merry tendon]

Ooo okay

[turbid stag]

You don't need high level to follow the guide just do the tower placement and youll get a decent wave

[icy mantle]

okay ty

[turbid stag]

You can test and basically yolo TD if you can't exactly follow the strats, make up or adjust strats @icy mantle

[lone swan]

how exactly do you boost chopping eff

[white lintel]

^this is important

Once you have all towers you should be able to put together a decent set up for TD, and only when you really need to min max do a guide

[turbid stag]

Easiest way is through post office but stamps, statues, alch bubbles, shimmer island and cooking is other sources.

[white lintel]

Main ways are stamps, Alchemy, and talents

[lone swan]

ok tysm

[turbid stag]

Post office is nice if you have bad alchemy

[lone swan]

i dont even have post office lmao

[modest sparrow]

chat i need to ask

randomnly my lab connections just cut out?

like one second i was able to connect to all of them the next everything was cut?

[trim lake]

That shit happens to me all the time with my stupid extra cauldron space

[dense pine]

did you change your bubos tallents?

[atomic fable]

Could dungeons be hard for me because I'm missing crucial cards?

[modest sparrow]

nope

[dense pine]

no

[dense pine]

odd

[fallen lava]

Hello guys, uhm when did y'all started doing labs after unlocking w4? Cause as of now, ive only been pushing/xp farming to unlock 9th, Some sidetrack quest and stuffs (like material gatherings). My furthest character is in the wormies map. I am planning to do labs after w5 is that ideal?

[white lintel]

Interesting strategy

[turbid stag]

The Upgrade is for Oxygen in the Atom Collidor, don't have an image atm.

[next needle]

lab is good no need to skip it

[dense pine]

i did lab first sincr you can get killers brightside to help push through

[modest sparrow]

i just threw all my characters into lab and focused on DK to clear the world so i can get the free talent points you get from leveling up skills

[dense pine]

• speeding up refinery is insane

refinery is such a time block that you want that 3x speed asap

[atomic fable]

The issue I seem to have with dungeons is lack of damage

[turbid stag]

If your already in World 5, you should do Divinity over Lab until you get Goharut.

[modest sparrow]

doot players annoy me

how dare they be luckier than me

[turbid stag]

I have doot on 2 accounts

[modest sparrow]

my fragile ego can not tolerate someboy doing better than me

[turbid stag]

no but fr you don't need doot with Hole

you get to have at least 3 Links as any character and 4 with ES

[modest sparrow]

i just use hole to link up with harriep and goharut

[icy mantle]

which one is that

5th?

[modest sparrow]

which divinity?

the ledeity one

the lebron deity

[icy mantle]

lmao

[modest sparrow]

the goat guy

my lepookie

[icy mantle]

i use nobisect on all characters

i dont understand the unlink thing tho

[zenith gulch]

Is there any good ways to structure 3d prints

[modest sparrow]

once a week you can unlink i believe

[icy mantle]

oh

[dense pine]

2x kill count for the mman on fruitflys

[icy mantle]

i did it for death note and portal lol

[turbid stag]

yes the 5th

[modest sparrow]

dude i just 3d print the resources i need for cycles and also vials

[turbid stag]

here give me a sec

[modest sparrow]

aint nobody got time to go do the actual skilling needed for vials or resources

[zenith gulch]

I'm honestly fucked because I never dis vails

[modest sparrow]

go do em now!

holy hell you're missing out

vials are the drink

and i am the cup

[white lintel]

Clssses print their specialized skills
BM and jman do refinery mats
DK pre
BB fish
SB flies
Mage logs

[fallen lava]

Okay now I get why we need 2nd ES cause ES will be there all the time XD

[zenith gulch]

Bruh my account has been afk for 2 years 😳

[fallen lava]

Same until I came back like 3wks ago hahaha

[white lintel]

Will be where?

[zenith gulch]

Wtf me too

[modest sparrow]

i just left my 2nd account to die cause i got doot on it instead of my main

then go into some tall grass and catch one

what are you goin to evolve it into?

espeon? vaporeon?

[zenith gulch]

Any good advice for labs

[modest sparrow]

yeah

[turbid stag]

Since July 2022 to May 2024 I've been in W2 then decided to push, got really far in some months.

[modest sparrow]

i mean

[white lintel]

The Zuiq special

[modest sparrow]

world 3 gave us equinox

and construction

[fallen lava]

At w5 meditating

[turbid stag]

true but I wasn't as dedicated because I didn't play that much until I locked in

[white lintel]

They will not

[modest sparrow]

most of idleon players wouldnt even dream of reaching world 5 without shrines

[turbid stag]

I've never used shrines for their intended purpose

[zenith gulch]

What's that

[white lintel]

You’ll do div for a while but definitely not “all the time”

[modest sparrow]

i use them to boost my attack speed on meals

i gotta punch my food into submission yk

[white lintel]

What

[zenith gulch]

Is there any guides that can get me back on track so I can progress again because my account is fucked 😅

[modest sparrow]

no account is truly fucked

you can always come back from any problem you face

[turbid stag]

umm havve you heard of the legendary K10 who does this type of work for fun???

I'll hook you up

[modest sparrow]

hell you start off idleon empty handed pretty sure you can come back from any fuck ups

[white lintel]

!review is a useful tool but can still be hard to interpret if you’re lost

[candid scarab]

https://ieautoreview-scoli.pythonanywhere.com/ - Unofficial 3rd party site made by Scoli
If you need help, please use https://discord.com/channels/437797104786604034/1174753262365315203

[turbid stag]

I've had someone who use Autoreview still ask me for more guidance! Take that ieautoreview!

[turbid stag]

What's wrong here? I don't see anything

[modest sparrow]

is this meant to be bad? this looks like an early game constuction set

[echo radish]

Ok but why r u building nothing

[dense pine]

roo.

roo will forever haunt you

[echo radish]

Erm didn't lava litteraly fix that last update or am I smoking?

[dense pine]

kinda

it fixed misplaced points

not points you lost from reseting too early

[echo radish]

Ah f

[wintry burrow]

Do I have to do something to unlock the pet battle for lullaby airways spice?

I have bamboo forest

[atomic fable]

Is it maybe worth it to try to unlock all my dungeon card drop chance?

There's 1 in w3 dungeon

[hushed mural]

2 maestro will be hard to fix
Also companion got chances to never get one or more of the common rarity ones

[turbid stag]

yes do a team battle to unlock next spice, then put pets to forage.

[wintry burrow]

Ive done that and crafted all recipes needed with bamboo forest spice but there is no next pet battle

[turbid stag]

there should be two more after Bamboo Forest

[dull jewel]

What does worship power do exactly?

[visual star]

i saw someone say skilled dimwit curs dosent affect lab gains?

is that fr?

[white lintel]

Yes

Lab xp isn’t calculated like other xp is just like div

[odd obsidian]

did you reach the map by progressing w6

[wintry burrow]

That might be the problem I haven't progressed w6 much

[hexed gale]

what is a good guild level

[white lintel]

Max

[hexed gale]

which is?

[glossy surge]

max is level 45 210/210

[rain oyster]

any tips for w2 td? thats my towers

[atomic fable]

Have you unlocked green salts yet?

[rain oyster]

i can

[atomic fable]

the 7th tower requires it

as for your current towers, hmm

[finite spear]

Whats Level your Boulder roller

[rain oyster]

like 3

i just started leveling it

[finite spear]

lvl your boulder

Everytime.

[dull jewel]

Can I take off the Royal Sampler prayer after im done sampling

[atomic fable]

The prayer mentions you have to remove all samples to unequip

[finite spear]

No equip always

[true hamlet]

I run card chance, money and rarity

[dull jewel]

ah ty

[atomic fable]

even then, I'd recommend keeping it equipped

[sleek pollen]

usually in TD boulder is your carry until its around level 30-35 and then you'll switch to having poison as your carry (and start leveling it), while also leveling thunder, party and kraken, frozone as well

[true hamlet]

Then swap card chance for credits during HH

[atomic fable]

So basically, boulder can be levelled up to 30-35, then focus on the last 6 towers (or you also ignore the ice one)?

(The reason I can't upgrade any of them right now is because I'm ranking up orange salts)

[sleek pollen]

yeah usually people would stop leveling boulder (for the purpose of using him in TD) between 30 to 40, but eventually will still level up all tower for a bonus from atom collider that increase tower dmg per level above 50

[atomic fable]

the 1 I'm unsure with is the frost tower

since I've been using it as support in my td runs

[sleek pollen]

frozone is still used

slowing the mobs is very good with kraken pushing them back while poison is gasing them

[sleek pollen]

there is at least one frozone in every wave 200 setup

[atomic fable]

Oh, I see

Okay, so that one is worth levelling, good to know

[dense pine]

ice is worth lvling, just a bit les important than the others

[atomic fable]

Alright

[true hamlet]

Frozone was instrumental for my w50 citric conflict

[sharp nebula]

hello, what does the sacred methods pack do?

[true hamlet]

Held the oranges in place for voidinator to debuff

[true hamlet]

Levels things up daily login

[atomic fable]

True, might've also came in clutch when I got w4 td to wave 50

[sleek pollen]

on daily reset it upgrade 3 of your lowest bubble (lvl 2 at least), stamps and meal (if you're w4)

[sharp nebula]

like, does it immediately level up the plates you've unlocked each day as soon as you purchase it?

ohhhhh

[true hamlet]

Earlier, the party starters have like no range so frozone helps to keep them in place for voidinator

[sleek pollen]

one at every daily reset, lowest level I reckon ye

[atomic fable]

Is it good that I recently upgraded all my characters in their worship skulls to prickle?

[toxic owl]

should my 7th character be a BB or a DK

[atomic fable]

I'm aware I could probably get most of them to the next skull tier, but dense water is being a problem

[dusty harness]

dk or jman

[toxic owl]

thx

what abt 8th?

i assume whichever one i didn't make the previous

[iron valley]

what does DNA sappy slicer do?

[dense pine]

let you turn afk drops in to dna for breeding

the base one only lets you do w1 mobs

[iron valley]

ty ty

[dusty harness]

the rule of thumb is 6 of every elite 1 subclass, and an extra dk, es, and maybe sb

[dense pine]

any time

[atomic fable]

You'll later be able to upgrade it to the 2nd tier, but that isn't until Anvil Tab 4

[dense pine]

6 of every elite 😭

[atomic fable]

I'll reword it, 1 of each elite class, vman for the 1st half of that

[dusty harness]

oh right its subclass

1 of each

[dense pine]

1 of each sub class

[atomic fable]

In world 3, this would be bowman, hunter, barbarian, squire, shaman and wizard

[odd obsidian]

usually w6 pet maps are right after the locks

[zenith gulch]

How can you extend the valentines even

[sleek pollen]

we cant
only lava can

[sinful bolt]

Didn't know this year was a leap year

[dusty harness]

[sleek pollen]

event will stay for 3 years because 29th february is only in 3 year

[odd obsidian]

cant wait until the wiki contributors approve and the event ends on feburary 30th

its valenslimes forever

[dusty harness]

[dull jewel]

What is the cooldown for Refinery Throttle

or what does 74k mean

[atomic fable]

74k seconds

[toxic owl]

74000 second

[atomic fable]

or 74000 seconds (Rounded)

[dull jewel]

ah ty

If you have two squires can each one use refinery throttle or is it shared cooldown?

[dusty harness]

both can use it

[dull jewel]

dope ty

[atomic fable]

Both squires can use the ability

[young jetty]

12M personal spore kills on this class is a pretty tough ask IMO. Then again, after using almost all candy (only ~50 1h candies left), I'm at 6M.

How long did it take you guys?

[sleek pollen]

a few days and tons of candy

you w5?

[astral lava]

It wasn't tough...

Just all characters was trying to help in getting Vman

[young jetty]

I think I used around.. hm. 10x10h, 5x4h and 60x2h. so that's 10 days worth or so.
I'm in W4. The DK has the last 3 rooms left but he's tearing through it

[sleek pollen]

yeah no vman is at least mid w5 imo

[dusty harness]

whats your dmg

[young jetty]

Currently the pusher is getting deathnotes for the rest of W1 though, but that shouldn't take very long.

[atomic fable]

You could've done this a lot easier in w5 due to 1 of the skills

[sleek pollen]

in w5 you have something that gives you x2 kills, works with killer brightside as well meaning you get x4 in total

[astral lava]

I'm currently doing Super chows on my DB

[young jetty]

On the Mman,

[dusty harness]

[true hamlet]

💸

[sleek pollen]

[echo radish]

[atomic fable]

That's similar to what I had on maestro as well damage wise

when I unlocked vman

[echo radish]

i don't have a maestro

[sleek pollen]

but you were in w5 and had nobi no?

[sleek pollen]

me when I lie

[atomic fable]

By the time I was on quest 3, Yes, but not at 1st

[young jetty]

The vault kinda boosted him a lot, I guess you didn't have that

[sleek pollen]

ah

[echo radish]

i ain't lying

[atomic fable]

When I started the vman quest, I didn't had nobi yet

but part way through, I got it, which helped

Another thing that probably helped me more despite below 10m damage was probably mk per tier?

[true hamlet]

Idk

[atomic fable]

if bubo is a strong elite class in w4+ later on for liquids and coins, is it maybe worth increasing the amount of coins bubo gains using star talents?

[dusty harness]

bubo takes a while for him to get really good so ill focus on dk or es

[sleek stone]

yeah later when tentacle eye 200

since farming mobs on bubo will take time if the dead arise didnt proc faster

[dull jewel]

What does Worship power and trapping power do? Just more resources?

[dense pine]

less time than getting 1m kills on everything else

[dense pine]

yup, should be

[mild solar]

best spices setup?

[dull jewel]

gotcha so they are worth using upgrade stones on then

[young jetty]

goddamnit, I was a bit too eager to spend candy. With a few gear changes, and all shrines

not much of a difference, but 10% more dmg

[atomic fable]

That is 1 more mk tier

I'm pretty sure if my math is right

[young jetty]

42k kills/h -> 49k

[dull jewel]

Does this vial give post office boxes daily?

so prob shouldn't upgrade it then lol

[atomic fable]

It's a 1 time post box increase

[dense pine]

ehh youll upgrade it later

[dusty harness]

later on theres an atom upgrade that converts pens into boxes daily

[dense pine]

only source of free post boxes are vault

[atomic fable]

This one is daily however

[dull jewel]

yea i got that one

That's good to know thanks guys

[dusty harness]

oh and vault

[spiral mango]

ehat is the buuld a wizard defender quest?

what