#midgame-chat-w3🧊w4🔮
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i have them already
Use auto review it helps to know what to focus
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hmmm
i didnt know about that thx
interesting
if you havent been doing lab, toss all ur characters in there except for one ur using to push worlds
For me, I'm early w5 in auto review
or you could ignore that all together, push to world 5 to get divinity, and then farm divinity until you get the goat god, then farm lab
yeah thats what im doing now. i watched a lot of griffy videos and nocturne to be prepared
oh i was thinking to stop pushing but ok i will do that
i didnt start watching them until i made it to world 6
that way you can park ur people in lab and get divinity at the same time
and get into the hole and unlock pocket gods
dk should be the best to push right?
yup
okay
DK my beloved
!merit4
1️⃣ Buy one point of spice spillage. This gives you up to a 20% chance to claim all your spices when claiming over an hour of afk gains. Since spices generate more slowly the more you have produced since last claim this will improve spice production.
2️⃣ Having more bubbles get upgraded each day will help a lot, especially when combined with buffs giving more levels per bubble. Only buy this if you can reach the No Bubble Left Behind node in the lab.
3️⃣ Egg capacity is limited and every time the hatchery fills up eggs are wasted until you unlock the rarity upgrade. Also helps you get two achievements with good rewards requiring egg capacity.
4️⃣ Allows you to connect to lab bonuses from slightly farther away which can reduce the number of characters needed in the lab. Note that the max distance between characters, which is called line width, doesn't increase.
5️⃣ Improves kills per hour in W4 but since you likely won't be pushing W4 portals for long this is relatively low priority.
6️⃣ Max level spice spillage triggers every time. They are lower priority since it takes a lot of star talent points and is likely to trigger several times in a row when checking multiple characters.
7️⃣ 3 crystal mobs per day is very little.
Unlocks the recipes for troll armor giving all stat% and the base for all further armor upgrades. It is great but require plenty of Nullo Salt. Don't buy it if you can't craft them.
sadly i cant get to killer brightside yet
I'll give a tip: If I'm not mistaken, you can reach further if you keep it in a straight line
you can definitely make it to killer brightside if you reoptimize
might mean temporarily sacrificing the refinery speed / barn lights but it'll come back soon enough
I think he can reach it with that length, but he can't have refinery speed and animal farm
I think it's possible to keep no bubble left behind however
ok done thx
I've asked before why my lab transfer talent doesn't work, as nobody answered, what should I do?
lab transfer?
- is your bubo in lab
- level of talent?
If bubo is in lab and the talent is levelled up, the way it works is a % of bubo's exp is transferred to the lowest lab level character
i dont think you rerally see it happen unless the character levels up
which is given the next time you switch to that character (that's lowest level)
for example: if bubo gains 10k exp in lab and the talent is 5%, then 500 exp is given to the lowest level and 9.5k is given to bubo
if I'm not mistaken here
he is and talent is lvl 86
the xp of the low caracter hasn't even moved since 3 days ago
have you claimed lab xp on your bubo?
Oh, I didn't know that, so in the example, bubo gains 10k exp, the lowest level gains 5% of that (500)?
Ye
yes, and I've done +12h so I was sure it wasn't that problem
Okay, that makes sense
do you have exp converter on?
I've also tried eliminating the talent and upgrading it again, didn't work
wierd
maybe, should it be on lab for it to work?
not even in other skill?
and ig that it having to be off is only aplied to bubbo, not the low lab lvl character
what, your bubo's gaining other exp while in the tube?
.
am i cooked?
Does the mana for life talent (For wizard/ES) even affect afk gains?? (edited)
If you’re cooked I’m cooked and I don’t think I’m cooked so you mustn’t be
dont worry some people in early w6 have the same minimum progression as you 
This is where I'm at in ar at the moment
the vault feels like cheating ngl
it giving passive mk yeah it helps for fighting
most w4 people before vault can by now rush through w5
yes, but now I'm stuck at boss fight 😦
What is maestro class good for?
can someone walk me through higher cook speed
smol
Supporting skilling of other classes
apparently diamond chef is cracked but it doesnt seem that good on paper
buffs every other class' eff for w1-3 skills by over 2x, great for world boss rare drops, and is just a jack of all trades beyond that
Vman bloodmarrow, diamond chef, cabbage etc.
is it cracked, so long as you have diamond plates
not better then any individual class for their skills, but better then average
on the afk info tab it doesn't change the MK unless the talent is active tho
Maestro is more of a support class
im like on similar cooking pace with someone else and im barely at 3k cook speed and they hitting millions
Ty
istg no clue what went wrong
wtf is cooking pace 💀
like idk, we have similar breeding and spice
maybe its not passive and I'm tripping
Are elite classes in W4 or 5
that doesnt have anything really to do with cooking speed besides unlocking meals that give cooking speed. yes spieces let u upgrade the kitchen but thats not where most of cooking spd comes from
Once the talent is active, it does affect afk gains as long as the buff is active
vman blood marrow, diamond chef, ribbons?
bro what 149k...
Vman pretty big
so you're supposed to activate it every single time before u go afk? so weird and unintutive. idk why Lava doesnt fix that
yes but they are claiming vman bloodmarrow is only contributing 3% cooking speed
it'll only start to get bigger stop complaining 
💀
blood marrow is what makes my cooking speed go from somewhere in the Q to E44
dw lava will add world 10 when i finish this portal
so they are hard capping
ye
is it worth to put all my characters on W3 for some time so I can get the 1M for Vman quest?
time to get vman
ofc
What is the best way to get the flubo points? Just do weekly Super dungeon x20 keys? Is there any way to min-max it when you're in. I feel like sometimes people AFK and I get less points
also quick question does more vman stack bloodmarrow
not that im gunna, but the person happened to have 6 vmans
Plan now is up to w8 I believe
and while I do that I put maestro killing gmush right? so I get the 12M
!merit3
1️⃣ One point into Telekinetic Storage which has an ability to deposit all items in your inventory into the chest while destroying everything on the ground. This is a great quality of life feature. Skip this if you have the ram companion.
2️⃣ Buy until you have 3 building spots and 3 food slots. This can be between 0 and 2 purchases depending on gem shop purchases. Food slots will help your pusher go faster and 3 building spots is a 50% construction speed boost.
3️⃣ Talent levels are hugely important and the library should be used as much as possible.
4️⃣ The 3D printer will be how you get most of you skilling materials in the future. To make good use of it you need your sample size to be as close to the 90% cap as possible.
5️⃣ Buy the rest. More slots = more better.
6️⃣ Leveling telekinetic storage gives up to +13.6% Carry Cap which is good for afking longer, stamps and crafting, but is not a priority early on.
7️⃣ You won't get enough points to consider buying respawn for a long time by which you will have cleared all W3 portals.
Get the first level when you reach rank 3 on orange salt and get another level each time a new salt reaches rank 3.
⚔️ The last recipe is for the Chizoars Caustic Scarf which is best in slot for a long time giving both damage and respawn. Get this when you can complete the associated task of beating Chizoar with 8 characters. Other recipes are for Chizoar gear. The helmet gives +15% damage and can be considered if you are making purple salt. The other pieces are mediocre but some make the chestplate for 3% damage.
gg im dead
That's a crystal spawn
Ehh
Yeah, it’s time based
Yea but theyll need to be able to do the challenges
Later levels are really annoying
First couple aren’t that hard afaik
Ehh.. lvl 100 all, ref rank 30, 1m sample, weekly boss kill
Dungeon ones are free too
So grandfrogger, snakentohep and glaxius
then i will unlock it and if i cant do the challenges i will just focus on smth else
Well you only got 5 at a time
Unlock on a char you aren't using to push I guess
The portal requirements for equinox is 100k and 250k
So you don’t have them all open
Is this stackable?
Yeah I know, those are the easier ones that can be hit.. gteenstacks are doable too for sure, at least the 20 and 75
nvm then
250k first from mustache, then 100k dedodated ram
It's other way round, 100k from mustache and 250k for rams
?
at least I'm pretty sure
It’s 250 from mustache
@thorny zinc can you confirm for us since you don’t have it unlocked
It's 100k right?..
250k on rams
prob 100k
Ykw imma do a vman speedrun
For?
I’ll be back with the #
Ah
i watched griffy and he said that its best to focus on 60% treshold first. is it ok to focus on that now?
and at least 20% on stamp levels
Well shit, I guess it’s been a while huh
Oh, I was right with portal requirements?
yup
hey
Alr imma go put my vman back to grind
anyone has some advices for W3 worship ?
Beastmaster stop right there talent for pushing waves
yeah
Early in focus on boulder levels, then poison
but i cant get throught wave 10
Unlock party asap
got poison too
You need party and ideally kraden
What level are your towers
very low
Poison..
may be 10 for boulder and poison 2 or 3
the website i been using for the worship meta broke is there a dif one ppl got?
W10 of?
Can’t neglect construction
does this matter at all when you are respawning mobs with dk or bubo? etc
I doubt it, they got talent that respawns dead enemies
Might be better for like vman speedrun
Team of 4 pets for the equinox?
Well what arena you doing
i meant as in does it mean it spawns extra mobs because i also heard people were using mob respawn gear instead of other armor in the endgame?
Mob respawn is good for mk when your afk, that’s likely why
i think that im doing shit on setting up my towers
It lowers the time for mobs to respawn
oh, makes sense for afk
Some maps limited by how many mobs they got, so faster respawn means more kills during afk
who got the sheet for worship
Master list
ye
!guide
Mid-Late Game guide for World 3 / 4 / 5:
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Video Guides (by GriffyBit):
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There
thank you king🙏🏻
what does trapping efficiency do?
More critters per breakpoint I think
do i have to collect the traps on my vman in order for everyone to get bonus xp or just set the traps
xp and critters caught is when you place trap down, only shiny chance matter when collecting I believe
!it
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i got 11 checkouts rn with max lv135, should i be using them already or keep saving?
tbh never checked anything about library
i am mainly pushing with dk
I just created a beginner lv1 and set him up with traps on bunnies using my trapping drone, but he isnt getting any exp, any idea why
always use them to increase the max level of your char, either skilling or fighting talent up to you in what you need most
Have you brought it through each world? Like alchemy?
Or even just talked to the hunting guy in w3?
I think for it to gain exp, you have to at minimum have it enter w3
something something equip a trap
just made 3rd mage, what 2nd class should i pick and what do they turn into i havent gotten to 3rd classes yet
1 shaman and 2 wizards which turn into a bubonic conjuror and 2 elemental sorcerers.
are the 3rd classes on world 4
The elite classes are in world 4
pog
where can I find elite class builds?
I havent, I will try
Every new char needs to visit each town and open the skills like alch,con,lab etc
Just in case to get xp
I did the initial quests and got some levels and now I get xp, thanks
One of us!
is the passive dr cards not working for anyone else?
can i do chizoar with my barb?
can this clear 200 /
where do i put this
Give to bird on top left of w3 town
Does each character need to have the gem to get to w3?
No only 1 needed
No, the world portals unlock for every character
Is it just me or does the last tower carry td hard even early on?
Perfect!
what is a dna splicer
Used for breeding
what does it mean when it says "enables splicing up to world 1 when afk fighting"
If I have multikill how do i see my accuracy? or do I see multikill when i have 100% accuracy
Once you unlock mk in world 3, once you have 2x the damage of the monster, the accuracy is replaced with mk
as long as you have 100% accuracy
so seeing multikill means i have 100%. cool thanks
It let's you get extra breeding chance instead of the loot you would have gotten
So if your breeding beans trying to get the next unlock
You can afk kill beans and instead of bean drops you can get extra X chance towards next breed
any world 1 mob afaik*
It's also only for that worlds pets in breeding
So for world 2 pets you'd need the world 2 splicer
^
what's the meta setup for the 4 pet round 115 equinox bubble?
oh i just got that's a zombies reference
what should my 8th character be? I've already got one of each subclass
Is this good for a 1st attempt?
Yeah you got the equinox req
Usually 2nd dk sb or es
Oh, nice, that leaves me with 1 or 2 I think
nvm, I still need 3
btw, the 9th tower actually got me past 50 on my 1st try since it was those healing ones
just grabbing this from lab opened nothing new in alchemy, is this something that i unlock after w4?
I have had a pet in the 1st spot for like a year, thats my highest ranked pet, but i cant remember why? I feel like there is something that boosts based on the rank of the pet in the first storage spot?
anyone know? or am i going nuts?
I think it's in the p2w tab bottom left
t hats on the 3rd page of alch, at the bottom
if you go to the P2W tab in alchemy while having this unlocked you should be able to see at the bottom left an option to assign players to a sigil
But you generally shouldn't do sigils until you have some more upgrades for it I think
i see them now but yeah dont have any unlocked anyways
You unlock them by assigning characters to the unlocked one like cauldrons
the first one, you could assign someone to it rather than a couldrin if you wanted
and i cant really push further in lab anyways so i'll just keep it the way it is
they are unlocked in order, once you upgrade the first, the second can be assigned
You could maybe get the shrine one if you skip the sigil one?
i see, i'll ignore for now and let my characters stay on regular cauldrons
doubt it but let me try
Sigils is more for late game, I'd not recommend it until cauldrons and bubbles are maxed
If not now then soon probably
it wont take long, youll get a bunch of upgrades soon that boost your distance to the point where each char will reach like 3 or 4 at the same time
is there a spot in W4 that's better than Bloques for femurs?
I only did the 1st 4 before I noticed that sigils is heavily late game
what is the elite class priority?
I almost have the whole first row lol that was a mistake
@grave compass do you know why I put my highest pet iin the first spot? I have a feeling there was some kind of boost based on the level of the pet in the first spot? any idea?
Beast master talent boost
almost, just created last character so i probably can after it levels up a bit
ohhh right, thanks
do you mean chips or something else? as i cant buy either of the chip i have in respitory because i dont have the mats
you can probably move them around a little to get it, but upto you
Which elite class should I priority? I already have BM and DK
there are upgrades for it all over the game, itll become exponential at a point
this was the most i could by barely connecting them, double 3d print and x3 refinery part is rough
I think I got the refinery and print nodes as a minimal start to my lab to not use too many characters
upto you, I find DK good, BM is good if you want to push your worship, since he can freeze enemies. DK is good for getting rarer drops faster.
how deep is demon genie into w4? what map?
4th
if thats the class guy, 4th map
grief
I decided to play through world 2 tower defence again to improve my pb since I have the void tower now
the other classes that I should push until unlock the 4th map should be...?
i want the card hahaha
Does anyone actually use upgrade stones for their premium hats?
is it maybe a good idea to redo all my tower defence runs now that I have the void tower?
have you leveled ur tower a bunch?
My bolder is like level 23?
party starter I got it up to 10
and the last tower is only level 1, but it carried me on wave 50 on w4 tower defence
You could, the void tower is pretty spendy, it can help a lot
yeah, I can see why it's very useful, It allowed me to clear wave 50 on clash of cans 1st try winging it
honestly, its totally upto you, I dont think itll make too much difference. they each have a really specific benifit.
what arew the lvls of ur other towqers?
I dont
This is my tower levels
u cleared 50 with those levels???
yeah... somehow with hunter
void is big boost tho
how, mine are 4 times those levels and they just walked right thru my krakens
Why are you leveling Boulder if you have poisonic elder
even i been using it on all td
Having issues with green salts
Ah ok that makes sense
What character are you using
i didnt do my salts until super late and then i didnt watch a guide, I leveled all my salts equally and fucked myself. taking foregver to level my red salts high enough to leave everything on
refinery are very time gated so yeah some people cant lvl up their tower
even myself
i used hunter
Huh
Probably just tower placement and upgrades
Same tower levels is getting me to wave 60 on world 2 tower defence
I used the pet arena entry skill but I cant go into pet arena is this bug?
u have to use it before entering the arena
oh fuck
So, the lab is just letting some char afk for others to have bonuses?
Well, i don't like those w4 jobs xD
The lab is pretty much essential iirc because there's some really good bonuses that become even better later on
1 of the early boosts you'll gain is x2 printer output
For the moment i push W4 on all my chars on the same map with shrines (except for BB who is afk at kitchen)
Ones I can think of on the top of my head are Shrines taking effect and gaining XP from characters in a world instead of in a certain map, increased coins determined by mushroom kills and x2 printer output
Though the first two are a bit further ahead
Got wave 70 on world 2 tower defence with same tower levels, wow
should i not be maxing out my pulse mage first
like i have really high levels in my pulse mage compared to the rest of my towers
should do on boulder
Pulse mage would be useless in mid worship
at least 20 and go upgrade your poison
okay
Did the carry capacity shrine work everywhere once its placed down, because it doesn't seem to be giving its effect
companion
You got some spare doots?
how do i use trapper drone? just unlocked it
Can someone post a screenshot of spice meta?
It's like quickref trapping
changed chars 2 times still not there, is it supposed to be?
You can put traps claim traps and stuff
No
I said like it
You can access it in w3 town
trapper drone in world 3
ooh
no quick access
Everything
ye but what i need rn lol
yeah trapper drone are life safer
Just get some penguins going for etarnal lord of fire
literally just unlocked penguins 5 secs ago
is the tower defence jump in w2 from 40 to 70 a good jump?
Good
It gave me a new prayer too
should i use wooden or silk traps?
silks for shiny
need to put traps on my other chars so they can use more than 1 lol
you can do it on drone
this thing is sick
upgrade your trap for more
is midas minded useful for vman?
trapping is only 22 lol
as it's 1 situation I can see it being helpful for with bosses
can you ever do worship like trapper drone?
how do you get that? construction too?
yes
nice
It lets you gain souls from the highest wave you've reached from world 3 town (Minimum: 10)
after the drone you got it
oh damn
but its high on building rate
yeah it'll take a day or two looks like it
so just let it start
maybe 3
since it would take a day or weeks
last one is the arm
just build boulder
just excited about the drone lol
For me, it'll be 1 more day before automation arm level 5 (My build rate is 587k/hr)
maybe w5 tomorrow if i use some candies
These are the 9 towers, the main ones I think you want to upgrade is boulder to 20, then party, kraden and then poisonic?
Where to farm obol fragments, like where has the highest drop rate for obols on general
dunno maybe on the silver obols one
but higher rate i think on giga frog since pop obols are common drop
So i am a little confused here, i am in w3, and level 100, and just getting wrecked left and right by mobs, did i get overzealous and jump areas too quick?
What do you mean by wrecked left and right
You don't have enough accuracy, defense ?
ugg i cant paste the image, but yeah neither, like im at the slushies with 267 def, afk says i need 554 to be no dmg, 1.38k acc which is only 61%
Wait you get this from drone?
No, automation arm (Level 3)
is it bad that i just have one character thats really strong and all my other characters are lacking
Ah ok gonna upgrade that then
yes but thats typical when youre pushing
Not really, just focus your other characters more
do i get bonus xp or speed/hr for my anvil
speed is bonus xp really
!gear
Carrot server 15 if anyone wants to help
umm .. how do i enter the last stage of world 3? i cant find the portal
the one with the pink thing above
someone join carrot server 15 world four town
afk at kitchen area
its just 15 mins
you might get ladle which reduce 1 hour of cooking
anyone know how to get fishing xp fast
does anyone ever do the dungeon inside the igloo?
That's the boss map
Where are the mice critters at?
in the rat area in the sewer in w1 i believe
Whats the best map to farm crystle sheep?
do i have tgo finish the trapping quest to unlock crafting to get the 3d printer?
cuz i can't figure that part out which is weird lol
bloodbones
what is a good guilds level?
How do you increase egg rarity?
oh you put your dudes in the middle of the cog window. and thats how they build.
3d printer is construction
yeah i couldnt figure out
so do i put all 6 of my guys in the midfdfle or do i focus on nooby cogs?
read the upgrade that does it
Currently just do nooby cogs/ put them in the middle later ok it'll just be your dks on the board everyone else on cogs
The zone with the pink is the boss fight accessed from the last stage with a key. It'll never not be grey because you can't port directly into it.
Also cogs with xp gain > build speed etc, construction level is everything
Anyone has S? for the player ratings
So there's a upgrade that increases rarity, gotcha
Is there a reccomended class to use to get the dungeon wallop achivement?
https://ibb.co/b5dF2N06 why is the bloach 0?
does killers brightside (lab) work for afk?
I think it's rounding below 0.4 per hour
I have 1 of each subclass (including maestro) and i have a new character unlocked, what class should i go for?
It's not 0 because you'd get the print error that it's insufficient
how do i get 2 knightly discipline?
What meal is the best to use the Rank 10 ribbon on?
Yeah
Bug?
You need a printer sample of 1m or more
single sample on printer
can someone tell me which class i should go for for my next character
I have every subclass so far
You need this to be exact
That's nice, thank you! I guess I'll save it for now until I unlock more meals
Black markets go brrr
Any tips on how to improve my hunter's accuracy? I've got 100 str and can't figure out what else to do
owl and roo
Oh right, thanks
?
when should i start afking cooking on my bb?
mid game
whats the spawn rate crystal monsters
500 ladles per day i believe
how do i check ladles per day?
afk info
!merit4
1️⃣ Buy one point of spice spillage. This gives you up to a 20% chance to claim all your spices when claiming over an hour of afk gains. Since spices generate more slowly the more you have produced since last claim this will improve spice production.
2️⃣ Having more bubbles get upgraded each day will help a lot, especially when combined with buffs giving more levels per bubble. Only buy this if you can reach the No Bubble Left Behind node in the lab.
3️⃣ Egg capacity is limited and every time the hatchery fills up eggs are wasted until you unlock the rarity upgrade. Also helps you get two achievements with good rewards requiring egg capacity.
4️⃣ Allows you to connect to lab bonuses from slightly farther away which can reduce the number of characters needed in the lab. Note that the max distance between characters, which is called line width, doesn't increase.
5️⃣ Improves kills per hour in W4 but since you likely won't be pushing W4 portals for long this is relatively low priority.
6️⃣ Max level spice spillage triggers every time. They are lower priority since it takes a lot of star talent points and is likely to trigger several times in a row when checking multiple characters.
7️⃣ 3 crystal mobs per day is very little.
Unlocks the recipes for troll armor giving all stat% and the base for all further armor upgrades. It is great but require plenty of Nullo Salt. Don't buy it if you can't craft them.
!merit3
1️⃣ One point into Telekinetic Storage which has an ability to deposit all items in your inventory into the chest while destroying everything on the ground. This is a great quality of life feature. Skip this if you have the ram companion.
2️⃣ Buy until you have 3 building spots and 3 food slots. This can be between 0 and 2 purchases depending on gem shop purchases. Food slots will help your pusher go faster and 3 building spots is a 50% construction speed boost.
3️⃣ Talent levels are hugely important and the library should be used as much as possible.
4️⃣ The 3D printer will be how you get most of you skilling materials in the future. To make good use of it you need your sample size to be as close to the 90% cap as possible.
5️⃣ Buy the rest. More slots = more better.
6️⃣ Leveling telekinetic storage gives up to +13.6% Carry Cap which is good for afking longer, stamps and crafting, but is not a priority early on.
7️⃣ You won't get enough points to consider buying respawn for a long time by which you will have cleared all W3 portals.
Get the first level when you reach rank 3 on orange salt and get another level each time a new salt reaches rank 3.
⚔️ The last recipe is for the Chizoars Caustic Scarf which is best in slot for a long time giving both damage and respawn. Get this when you can complete the associated task of beating Chizoar with 8 characters. Other recipes are for Chizoar gear. The helmet gives +15% damage and can be considered if you are making purple salt. The other pieces are mediocre but some make the chestplate for 3% damage.
doesnt show
go to cooking and afk info
Since I'm getting automation arm level 5 soon, would it start making sense to hold onto all my checkouts? (I have 14)
oh your talking about cooking
!merit2
1️⃣ One point into obols makes it possible for them to drop at all. Obols are rare items giving stat boosts when equipped.
2️⃣ Buy for all unlocked characters. Afk gains are very important and 2% per character is quite a lot when you start out with just 20%. Purchase more every time you get a new character.
3️⃣ Mob respawn increases your kills per hour making opening portals faster. If you are done with world 2 for now you can skip this in favor of purchases that help in all worlds.
4️⃣ When maxed you are likely to get a bit over 7 gems for every 10 kills on average regardless of boss or difficulty.
5️⃣ Obols are rare and more drop rate will help you fill out your obol pages faster.
6️⃣ More balls = More gems, arcade bonuses and other items.
7️⃣ Not much better than Amarok gear for a significantly higher price.
8️⃣ EXP Converter is not worth using.
⚔️ The two star talents boost card drops and mana regen. Put a point here as soon as you start farming the W2 minibosses. The other points increasing the drop rate are less important. Buy the Silver Antique and Capitalist Case from the forest shop daily for more chances instead until after arcade balls are maxed.
or would it still make sense to use only 1 to go for the 1k achievement asap
yess
I wouldnt do 20 checkouts until you can get them reasonably fast, bc otherwise just spam 20 book on the talents
#bot-commands
It currently takes 4 days to reach 20 checkouts from 0
dont worry about getting anything 20 booked rn
Alright
other than a few important ones like blood marrow
and maybe eagle eye?
ehhhh
or that not as important
lemme see how it scales
I wouldnt 20 book it unless you just accidentally have 20 books and nothing esle to do
the statue bonus talents
!merit4
1️⃣ Buy one point of spice spillage. This gives you up to a 20% chance to claim all your spices when claiming over an hour of afk gains. Since spices generate more slowly the more you have produced since last claim this will improve spice production.
2️⃣ Having more bubbles get upgraded each day will help a lot, especially when combined with buffs giving more levels per bubble. Only buy this if you can reach the No Bubble Left Behind node in the lab.
3️⃣ Egg capacity is limited and every time the hatchery fills up eggs are wasted until you unlock the rarity upgrade. Also helps you get two achievements with good rewards requiring egg capacity.
4️⃣ Allows you to connect to lab bonuses from slightly farther away which can reduce the number of characters needed in the lab. Note that the max distance between characters, which is called line width, doesn't increase.
5️⃣ Improves kills per hour in W4 but since you likely won't be pushing W4 portals for long this is relatively low priority.
6️⃣ Max level spice spillage triggers every time. They are lower priority since it takes a lot of star talent points and is likely to trigger several times in a row when checking multiple characters.
7️⃣ 3 crystal mobs per day is very little.
Unlocks the recipes for troll armor giving all stat% and the base for all further armor upgrades. It is great but require plenty of Nullo Salt. Don't buy it if you can't craft them.
are they for the bonus the statue guy applies to your char individually... or the amount added when sacrificing statues
does it say when depositing statues?
it says that the statues give a higher bonus
i feel like that's ambiguous which is why i'm asking
That means it only boosts the benefit the statue gives to that character
the amount added remains the same
meaning i don't have to min max and only add mining statues on my dks
that's good ty
to be clear i know golden is global, i just mean were it applied to deposit
Here's an example: If the statue gives 57.6 mining power, it'd be +67% higher to that character only
!merit4
1️⃣ Buy one point of spice spillage. This gives you up to a 20% chance to claim all your spices when claiming over an hour of afk gains. Since spices generate more slowly the more you have produced since last claim this will improve spice production.
2️⃣ Having more bubbles get upgraded each day will help a lot, especially when combined with buffs giving more levels per bubble. Only buy this if you can reach the No Bubble Left Behind node in the lab.
3️⃣ Egg capacity is limited and every time the hatchery fills up eggs are wasted until you unlock the rarity upgrade. Also helps you get two achievements with good rewards requiring egg capacity.
4️⃣ Allows you to connect to lab bonuses from slightly farther away which can reduce the number of characters needed in the lab. Note that the max distance between characters, which is called line width, doesn't increase.
5️⃣ Improves kills per hour in W4 but since you likely won't be pushing W4 portals for long this is relatively low priority.
6️⃣ Max level spice spillage triggers every time. They are lower priority since it takes a lot of star talent points and is likely to trigger several times in a row when checking multiple characters.
7️⃣ 3 crystal mobs per day is very little.
Unlocks the recipes for troll armor giving all stat% and the base for all further armor upgrades. It is great but require plenty of Nullo Salt. Don't buy it if you can't craft them.
What class is best at farming cards actively? In particular Genies
ES
what class should I make for my 7th character?
what do you have?
bubo, dk, bow, barb, hunter, ES
maestro
Is bubo still best coin farm?
I would think so
but later in game
make a second DK for 7th and 8th be vman
Why?
because with new char slots being harder to get, youll get 7th in w4ish, and 8th in w5ish
vman is realistically aquired in w5 along with EQ started which is where you can get vman to be highest skill lvls for right and left hand talents.
second DK is really important for construction, which is a very foundational skill, having 2DKs will give you a huge BR increase, and also more ore prints
mman has really bad prints until vman
so I kinda made it harder for myself with mman 7th?
its fine as 7th, but better at 8th
man how much multikill and drop rate do i need to get many poop and genie cards with candy
ES farm them
damn so thats why i progress faster
active farm with es
Alright, I'll keep that in mind if I ever do an alt
what is?
was bb and change to dk on my 7 and yeah its faster to progress now
did and got only 2 from 1 hour candy
no, active farm on ES
ok
i make my vman on 8th char but yeah the progress become faster
since i lack on cons early
Shit I fucked up then
second DK is so big for con gains
yeah
I'm kinda at the point I'm not sure what to do with these
is beans actually best map for power statues?
if your vman is 7th youre fine, its not that big of a deal, 8th slot is just better but your account is still good
dnote farming, nothing island, skill lvling
Alright
I earlier used some for vman skill leveling
and to try to get 1 of the stamps from chopping, but I've rarely used candy past that
if youre w6, those nodes are likely far better than candying w5 nodes
You can't time candy in w6 I'm pretty sure
this is candy
you asked what time candy is
I'm going to try to get shiny snitch prayer
which requires reaching wave 81 on Goblin Gorefest
Is it a useful prayer?
I would say so
Ive never used it once
whats de best way to get power statue for monolith
Active DK at Beans
ok thankz
best map in w4 for genes?
cans im psure
ty
Do I use this prayer before collecting traps? (Was able to unlock it)
yes, shiny is calculated during the collection not the setting
Alright
Wait so if I eagleeye with shiny talent vs if I eagleeye without it then that has a difference?
yes
shit
no
how do i start a battle? it wont let me put the pets
Thank god
Would this give more exp on vman if I set nature traps here? I just unlocked this spot
Drag them into the slots
it wont let me
Always the latest one for xp iirc
most likely
Send video
LMAOOOO
thats a total lie
click on the territory
theres eggshell too
wheres it
(Example) It's below the fence yard
cupcake do your breeding oml
something that looks like this but green not blue greenish white
I'm on pristalle lake am I good on breeding
idk where youre at so I cant say
world six
thats a massive range
yeah now drag them into the circles that don't have signs on them
Okay, so I'm doing bad on breeding?
yea, you should be a good bit past crypt, your missing out on a lot of meals
I think ik why, I got a bit hard stuck trying to unlock carrot
do i just throw them in there now?
Okay, got past the crypt, had to time the shield know, how far should I try to get?
only green if it doesnt need combat
i had 12 eggs on my inv and i used all of them, did i lose them?
james what did you mean by beans i tried bored beans and got 0 statue
did you active farm them on DK?
yes
then your crystal chance and DR is shit
get 10+ DR and sub 100 crystal chance and then do it
so i need to get good crystal chances
yep
/e sigh
Okay, maybe I need better pets for frosty peaks? It's not even close
crystal shrine- chiz card boosts shrines, demon genie card, poop card, DR post box, and star talent
20 dr high enough to try to ruby cards or should I wait a bit longer
depends what cards your rubying
trying Genies atm
if youre active farming with ES absolutely
if not then it might be a bit expenseive to candy but its fine
I need help world 4, I got like no acc atleast for what I need
shit I need chiz card
@steel garnet Stay safe (HAHAHA)
chaotic chiz to be exxact
For rattler, I need to go all the way to sand giants, is it worth letting 1 character afk for those splices?
ik
20? idk
Arctis, you're right, I am way further behind than I thought 😭
there is none
i mean, it says lvl 5 is the threshold. but why?
it just takes exponentially (I think) longer per level
ah okay
thats an IT term not an idleon term, its something you set in your config so that IT tells you when its done lvling
Is it worth it to have 1 or 2 characters work on splices for borger and rattler?
...you dont have those?
This is pretty much all I have
I got really stuck trying to unlock carrot
get on that breeding grind oh my goodness
and then refiller for the 4th pet slot
how important is the w4 pets? ive got all of w1-3 but im mostly doing my shinies for those worlds rn
only important one is peapod
How do I try to resolve this if everyone is on divinity 😭

elephant god? the one that turns afk time to sailing, refinery, breeding or cooking
helps u speedrun unlocking pets if u get like 7 eggs an hour
you know how you were asking what to do with all your candy?
yeah?
use the candy
Their name is Omniphau
I’m at the cup map in world 3 and I haven’t been able to progress very fast
Monolithic?
yes
alright, I think this is fixable, but it's going to be tricky
youll be fine, you should have plenty of eggs and candy
Wait candy for what
genes
What's the highest kph for w2 and what elite class is best?
oh yeah I did that
likely your most invested character, likely DK, ES, or DB
on sand giants
and remember that low candy times are better for this, dont do anything over 4 hours long imo
Alright, I'll check all 3
remember to check your gear and food to check for equality
they're early w5 they won't have DB
I do have db, I'm in world 6 map progression
those who know
okay, I'll admit, I did rush past w5 quite quickly, that would explain why my breeding is that bad
how come my Quest kapow talent is always at 50% even though i have done more then 50 quests
the cap, it increases when you level quest kapow
Alright, idk why, but db has highest kph with speed potions
ok im dumb i thought it meant something else
graveyard and detonation
unless you meant afk
If your BC happens to be your first character, does that mean the bonus to the character to the left wouldn't do anythign at all in the lab?
left as in the placement in the lab
So its literally the left and right of the little icons
Was talking about afk
can someone help me understand this
'
different investment ig
oh my oo
can we sample critters?
no
It might be post office, which might be explaining it?
It is, my db has 200 on the fight box

best way to get the lava skulls for rift?
Active SB
use es/sb and pray
thanks
Anyone know of a reason my printer would not give the proper bonus? I have the lab node and Doot but it is showing gold star. I even tried linking directly to Harriep and still nothing
!merit3
1️⃣ One point into Telekinetic Storage which has an ability to deposit all items in your inventory into the chest while destroying everything on the ground. This is a great quality of life feature. Skip this if you have the ram companion.
2️⃣ Buy until you have 3 building spots and 3 food slots. This can be between 0 and 2 purchases depending on gem shop purchases. Food slots will help your pusher go faster and 3 building spots is a 50% construction speed boost.
3️⃣ Talent levels are hugely important and the library should be used as much as possible.
4️⃣ The 3D printer will be how you get most of you skilling materials in the future. To make good use of it you need your sample size to be as close to the 90% cap as possible.
5️⃣ Buy the rest. More slots = more better.
6️⃣ Leveling telekinetic storage gives up to +13.6% Carry Cap which is good for afking longer, stamps and crafting, but is not a priority early on.
7️⃣ You won't get enough points to consider buying respawn for a long time by which you will have cleared all W3 portals.
Get the first level when you reach rank 3 on orange salt and get another level each time a new salt reaches rank 3.
⚔️ The last recipe is for the Chizoars Caustic Scarf which is best in slot for a long time giving both damage and respawn. Get this when you can complete the associated task of beating Chizoar with 8 characters. Other recipes are for Chizoar gear. The helmet gives +15% damage and can be considered if you are making purple salt. The other pieces are mediocre but some make the chestplate for 3% damage.
how do i get EVEN MORE storage space PLEASE
Is it bad I did normal claims if I got dice obols or silver pens during candying for splices?
There’s genuinely an absurd amount of storage in the game rn, how are you out
I'm not quite at the stage of successfully doing crystal farming
no idea
Vault, event, world shops, assorted drop tables, gem shop, quests
Okay, got 2 pets closer in w2 breeding so far
how do gilded stamps work? how do I apply the discount? is this different from the materials used to increase max level?
Cap
I think i realise I'm stuck on late w5 at best until I fix breeding
What are you stuck on for breeding?
I'm missing so many pets for me being in w6
because 1 - I got stuck on trying to unlock carrot and 2 - I ended up rushing to w6 really quickly
Anyone can send me a pet spice order please it’s getting mad confusing 🫤
check pins
Thanks
Number 5, what if I'm trying to push? Should I make it my priority?
Wont really help that much. There is a lot more upgrades on tasks better for early players.
I'm doing eggs at cooking, do I stick with that till max or when do I stop?
just do it until the requirement becomes too high
for pushing w4 just use death note and lab skull node
is that a baby or an adult
I have 1/60 crystal spawn chance + chocochip and still it feels so bad to crystal farm
cabbage
yeah with t10 already
go to autoreview, and check the list
other than that
You can ribbon everything with Sub lvl 6 ribbons
after cabbage, its the gfood meal
damn didnt have that yet
If there's some good news, at least I didn't neglect cooking, how does this look so far?
im still at orange
ur faaaaaar
are you w4 or w5
mine rn
its bad
sigh I figured
i need to past frosty peaks to get new meals
Almost same situation for me, the remaining ones are lengthy
I'm mostly timegated by breeding sadly
cooking is actually insane for bonuses it gives
especially with meal effect multies from summoning, jewel, shinies
so much lab exp
I'm kinda timegated by breeding right now, I only just recently finished the crypt
i can just print if i want to go out since i have harriep
also the skill efficiency meal really help
It's so expansive and new recipes always feel good to unlock
I find it kinda weird that auto review says I'm more behind on cooking because of diamond chef (Mid w5), but auto review says I'm not that far beind on breeding (Late w5), I'm early w6 map wise
Got my ribbons ready for when I unlock the later ones
soon 100
same as mee
oh wow, I just started leveling it up recently
I can't tell how behind I am anymore with breeding and cooking 😭
leveling up shrines for that construction mastery
just focus on it for a while
Breeding feels like a chore until you unlock shinies, then it's goated
very behind
i haven't done breeding since last year
then why is auto review saying I'm still okay (Late w5)
how much time is considered "too high"
auto review says I'm late w4 😦
where do y'all find the auto-review?
!review
https://ieautoreview-scoli.pythonanywhere.com/ - Unofficial 3rd party site made by Scoli
If you need help, please use https://discord.com/channels/437797104786604034/1174753262365315203
thx
late w6 peekin right there
If I'm very behind on breeding, I don't get why auto review says breeding is late w5 for me
that's just enemy map
means nothin
I have up to sand castle in world 2
FInally! advanced enough too spam cogs!
damn instant
ever since I did summoning 2 days ago, my buildrate and cog rate over 40x'd
So, I kinda messed up rushing to w6?
oh, so I messed up 😭
Alright, it might take a while to fix breeding since it's timegated
i think we should focus on getting omniphau to progress faster
do you have to be online for trap to tick down? i've put all my character on divinity and logged out 2 hours ago just to log back in and the trapped still hasnt progressed 1 bit
ah so close to atoming
Well, maybe I shouldn't have rushed?
i let my NBLB cook that up
nblb is doing same for me
Yo, should the third mage be a wizard or shaman?
wizard
wiz
no rush is to unlock those w6 timegated farming, sneaking, summoning
never do a 2nd shaman
Finally - 200 Arena, and just barely.
nearly everything that is atomable at this point was pushed mainly through NBLB
Oh, so I did the right idea with rushing? it's just I kinda did it too fast?
True
But current gial is getting my skilling bubbles to 95% effi
and then bosst all the other stuff to 95% effi
What should I do for goals?
i think getting to lab jail first
i should resample
since it is also time gated
what you gonna sample with that
i will do that once everything is 95% effi
True, so getting through with divinity would be a good idea
even tho this week is kinda good to sample
atom mats, vial mats, and that's about it
yeah divinity jail for me last time are hard also
after harriep everything comes easy
glad i have pocket divinity so I can link to snehebatu and goharut for sampling
damn
dootless gang
The vault is.. upsettingly good. A couple of weeks ago I was struggling with the first room in W4 on my "best" character (squire) on Euphant armor.
Yesterday evening I got my 9:th char, who leveled to 40 on w3 sheep in about 5 minutes as a beginner, then I crafted a quarterstaff, put on some amarok armor and left it killing W4 mushrooms. This morning he's level 88. Not a single food consumed.
imagine not having doot

That's normal even without vault
Trading
guys
this bonus is amazing
imagine doot got nerf next update
yeah, well it all adds up. Much has happened in two weeks I suppose.
and this might be the best bonus in the vault
why would he when hole exists as mini doot?
imagine he adds more pets
so to not mess up maestro i shouldnt skill on other character after setting it up? i was going to let maestro afk mine but realized his efficiency is awful
His efficiency will always be awful
will we get taxed on trades, maybe?
bro i still need to spend 14k green gems
very hopeful
yeah i hope its balanced tho
pls make em microtransaction
so there is possibility to completely mess up your account if you level up a character's skilling too high?
ez doot right here
pls make it more op then the first set xD
gonna be dmg 10x multiplier
🐋 🐋
that's not better than some pets we got rn
Completely mess no, but you can make your life much harder
like sheepie, best pet by far
But we are talking about lvl 80 or so
@mint rivetwouldnt it be techinically really hard for maestro to level up after a certain point because he cant farm higher exp giving nodes?
speaking of sheepie
sheepie tho is best i think
+1 base dmg per cooking speed
oh makes sense
but there will be a point where maestro farms highest xp nodes
because of inf global scaling?
mine farming godshard no problem for example
wdym inf global scaling
scaling for efficiency from many sources not related to character hence why mine is really low rn
maestro exp farming
i am talking about 9k ish efficiency with mining gear on maestro while 90k on bb with no mining gear
ahh
yes
Normally you want your maestro level to set the pace for your skillers.
So when he reaches a new threshold you make new tools for him and for the skillers and resample if you feel like it
so i should basically target next tool's level +1 for maestro
Exactly
then push regular characters to gear level
I do +2 to be safe
maestro vs DK, as you can see, difference is huge
yeah thats what i meant by global infinite scaling sources
as the highest req is 400m ye?
is it mainly alchemy?
summoning really really helps, and mine is not even maxed yet

i honestly don't know where maestro got his efficiency from
It gets much better for maestro once you unlock the better stamps + bubbles + meals etc
my whole point of asking this was because i wanted to mine plat as i havent set that up on printer and still dont have anvil 3 in mid/late w4

I'm also printing plat right now 
but i feel like i am doing something wrong, i know i can push basically to w6(?) with amarok gear after keep on recrafting it with all the buffs like vault but
if i were to follow bot's gear order for example w4 uses dementia gear no?
and even my bb has 4 times less efficiency compared to dementia
I went for dementia, the people recommending Amarok are basically speedrunners
take their advice with a grain of salt
i mean i am not having issues
If you can't mine dementia in W4 it means you ignored your skills big time
do these 2 have any uses
not yet
what to focus early on in these
with that, 3 digit numbers
wdym
what note to focus on
also is it just me or does the bubo's lab width talent sometimes randomly turns off? when i am taking some characters out of lab to craft or do smt and put them back i keep seeing my line broken without me changing anything
then when i go to my bubo and preset swap back and fort
C, and occassionaly do G
it gets fixed
ahh okay
i liked the game so decided to buy bundles, so with the p2w help my main problem is tbh accuracy which i am going to farm % accuracy cards today to fix
not even halfway there and i got more than 40%
i am here in w4 as reference
dungeon flurbo shop, accuracy is maxed?
not maxed if i remember correctly
how about your roo?
i know i should at least do it once a day during happy hour but when i dont have enterance things it feels so bothersome to do
still mf2, following the threshold sheet so its pretty slow
**about to hit mf2 reset
further than me on roo
level 100 finally
after over half a year of slacking owl, i got 5 MF in a 30min session
its goes fast
how about your shaq?
the boost on vault make it
tf was shaq again?
its important early game
oh, my print is pretty slow and was told to not print bloach for now
i still dont have helm and body armor for efficiency gear so i'll snapshot them again later when i can craft those
yeah also at what world are you?
can finish w4 if i keep pushing, i paused pushing for now
What are u struggling?
also make your gear better with w4 stone for wis
being behind with crafting/skilling lmao, still dont have anvil tab 3
havent mined any plat
already did
oh your gear then
for dk x1.5 talent i need 24.5k for last map, i am at 21.8k accuracy atm
dementia gives a lot of stats
Try your BB get into alot of Levels
Then put your BB into the Fishing zone 1
i have no clue what you meant by 1st sentence
BB is Blood berserker
Hey skill is fishing
And try your get platium fishing rod