midgame-chat-w3🧊w4🔮

[limpid flint]

yeah

[zenith hare]

you need 100 copper total and 200 spore caps total

[mint rivet]

my list is is not done

[limpid flint]

yeah i just did the math XD

[zenith hare]

yes

[fluid galleon]

anyone got a skilling guide for journeyman?

[limpid flint]

i'll keep printing the caps but no need for the copper but this early in-game idk what to else to print

[mint rivet]

so this is weird, autoreview is telling me to up orb to 290, but 290 is in a range you told me is bad for the orb to be

[atomic grove]

This is priority right?

[limpid flint]

this how my storage looks like.... very early game just pushing into W4, any tips on what else to use the printer to print?

[mint rivet]

2 platinum bars..damn

[true hamlet]

Very simple, all your materials on specialized classes and bm + later vman for mob mats

[limpid flint]

yea....LOL i've been pushing this one off

[true hamlet]

So just take all the logs, ores etc.

[zenith hare]

you have more then 290

the total level needs to be greater

[limpid flint]

alright

[zenith hare]

not the book level

[mint rivet]

my max book is 290, and I can get to 320-330 probably. I do that, yes?

[zenith hare]

yes

[craggy sail]

how does max level in library increase?

[limpid flint]

if only i can print bloaches

[zenith hare]

you can, its just the same chance as catching a bloach

[craggy sail]

wow thanks for this!!

[mint rivet]

so no endgamer reached 400 talent lvl on bubo

[limpid flint]

you CAN?!

[sleek stone]

Does snehebatu affect lab?

[zenith hare]

yes

[sleek stone]

Damn should have use it

[wild urchin]

I love being home alone and pissing with the door open

[limpid flint]

YO

[faint matrix]

Damn

[empty agate]

I recommend printing materials that is like made for a specific class to grind it easily, for example, barbarian:print fish

[limpid flint]

thanks!!!

[empty agate]

And then for squire or something like that you can print ores

[empty agate]

Even tho squire specializes construction it still has the warrior and that specializes mining

[limpid flint]

yeah im thinking of doing this

[dull jewel]

Should I become a journeyman on my warrior/barbarian

[obtuse trout]

is the 3 rift tears hard to obtain in 60 mins?

[vocal rivet]

Can I just leave and end on the wave I'm on or do I need to wait to die?

[dense pine]

just turn off auto

[vocal rivet]

oh neat ty

[limpid flint]

so im basically doing tropilogs/birch for my mages, then for my archers gonna be fruit/butterflies and my warriors will do gold & plat

[empty agate]

Barbarian:fish squire: ores, Bowman: insects, wizard:wood

[limpid flint]

thanks alot for the idea!!!!!!!!

[empty agate]

Yeppp

[limpid flint]

now i can go back to levelling my characters

[autumn hemlock]

does anybody's meal get stuck while cooking?

[empty agate]

Nppp

[potent lantern]

How many million is a green stack 10m?

[onyx patrol]

So, with the new egg changes, anyone know if it's more worth it to stack them up, or use asap

[gritty nymph]

Oh man my bug report got removed

Well hopefully lava atleast saw it

Why my bug report got removed

[obtuse trout]

what was the bug?

[gritty nymph]

Hooplyte crashing my game on android

It doesn't give me a message it just closes the game and it doesn't save anything I did before hooplyte

Hooplyte will still appear after crashing

[oak lynx]

Is this a good score

[mint rivet]

how many bosses/day drop gems?

[onyx patrol]

3 gold chests == good

[mint rivet]

compared to?

[obtuse python]

Should I use this on anything

[mint rivet]

cabbage

[onyx patrol]

I'm so glad when I quit for a bit I left my bb on cooking

[oak lynx]

Nun

[mint rivet]

yeah its good

[onyx patrol]

came back to this

[mint rivet]

do equinox if u didn't alr

[onyx patrol]

my equinox is currently stuck

[west pilot]

On what

[onyx patrol]

296 on construction, 3/5 maxed and I just can't get that 5th difficulty

[coral peak]

!merit3

[candid scarab]

1️⃣ One point into Telekinetic Storage which has an ability to deposit all items in your inventory into the chest while destroying everything on the ground. This is a great quality of life feature. Skip this if you have the ram companion.
2️⃣ Buy until you have 3 building spots and 3 food slots. This can be between 0 and 2 purchases depending on gem shop purchases. Food slots will help your pusher go faster and 3 building spots is a 50% construction speed boost.
3️⃣ Talent levels are hugely important and the library should be used as much as possible.
4️⃣ The 3D printer will be how you get most of you skilling materials in the future. To make good use of it you need your sample size to be as close to the 90% cap as possible.
5️⃣ Buy the rest. More slots = more better.
6️⃣ Leveling telekinetic storage gives up to +13.6% Carry Cap which is good for afking longer, stamps and crafting, but is not a priority early on.
7️⃣ You won't get enough points to consider buying respawn for a long time by which you will have cleared all W3 portals.
Get the first level when you reach rank 3 on orange salt and get another level each time a new salt reaches rank 3.
⚔️ The last recipe is for the Chizoars Caustic Scarf which is best in slot for a long time giving both damage and respawn. Get this when you can complete the associated task of beating Chizoar with 8 characters. Other recipes are for Chizoar gear. The helmet gives +15% damage and can be considered if you are making purple salt. The other pieces are mediocre but some make the chestplate for 3% damage.

[onyx patrol]

!merit5

[candid scarab]

1️⃣ W5 skill XP will speed up the divinity grind since it helps unlock stronger styles faster.
2️⃣ Aim to keep the loot pile capacity greater than your ship count so you can claim two entire cycles at once without waste.
3️⃣ Mob respawn will help afk kills in W5.
4️⃣ Total all stats will slightly improve most things. Don't buy it if you don't have the star talent points to use it.
5️⃣ Tab 4 talent points can be scarce but you only get 3 per purchase and there are a lot of other ways to get them including class lvls, skill lvls and the alchemy bubbles.
⚛️ The Atom Collider is the last building on the top row of construction requiring Nullo Salt and 10s of millions of resources to use. The discount should be bought before you start buying atom upgrades.
⚔️ The last boss recipe is The Divine Scarf which is among the best items in the game and reasonably easy to craft. This recipe should be gotten as soon as the task of beating nightmare Kruk on all characters can be completed. Earlier recipes are for armor and weapons most of which gives mob respawn significantly improving kills per hour. Get these if you can afford to craft them.

[coral peak]

!merit4

[candid scarab]

1️⃣ Buy one point of spice spillage. This gives you up to a 20% chance to claim all your spices when claiming over an hour of afk gains. Since spices generate more slowly the more you have produced since last claim this will improve spice production.
2️⃣ Having more bubbles get upgraded each day will help a lot, especially when combined with buffs giving more levels per bubble. Only buy this if you can reach the No Bubble Left Behind node in the lab.
3️⃣ Egg capacity is limited and every time the hatchery fills up eggs are wasted until you unlock the rarity upgrade. Also helps you get two achievements with good rewards requiring egg capacity.
4️⃣ Allows you to connect to lab bonuses from slightly farther away which can reduce the number of characters needed in the lab. Note that the max distance between characters, which is called line width, doesn't increase.
5️⃣ Improves kills per hour in W4 but since you likely won't be pushing W4 portals for long this is relatively low priority.
6️⃣ Max level spice spillage triggers every time. They are lower priority since it takes a lot of star talent points and is likely to trigger several times in a row when checking multiple characters.
7️⃣ 3 crystal mobs per day is very little.
Unlocks the recipes for troll armor giving all stat% and the base for all further armor upgrades. It is great but require plenty of Nullo Salt. Don't buy it if you can't craft them.

[west pilot]

You stucked on equinox and have the easiest dreams 💀

[onyx patrol]

well, it'll progress in a bit

but hell if I'm grinding dungeon without the 20x

[mint rivet]

my equinox is stuck too

[west pilot]

Dungeon is done in less than 2 weeks

[onyx patrol]

oh? did they change it?

[obtuse python]

I just got W5 shld I do equinox

[west pilot]

Man, if you do it on happy hour each week, it's free

[mint rivet]

only if any dream is easy to do

[west pilot]

100k progress on CC is free too

Just need a decent bubo with P.O box and CC bubble

[mint rivet]

i skinned my bubo to start the DK onyx grind

[west pilot]

5 on weekly battles is just free

You just follow the sheet and done

[onyx patrol]

Don't you need bubo to get 200 on the CDR before you can hit 100k

[west pilot]

Progress is different from CD

If you can one shot citringes with poison you should be close to it

Also, you telling me you have 204k ladles but not 200 tenteyecle

[onyx patrol]

yes

[west pilot]

That's crazy work

[onyx patrol]

I left my bb on cooking for 1y

[west pilot]

Lmao

[onyx patrol]

when I last played, w4 just released lol

so that's my excuse

[west pilot]

Gstacks should be easy

[onyx patrol]

yeah, using the 3x god to mass print atm

[west pilot]

With early skilling sources, some monster mats and some shop free gstacks

[night terrace]

anyone got the tierlist for gem upgrades?

[west pilot]

75 is not hard

!gemshop

[west pilot]

Not updated but whatever

[onyx patrol]

I will say though, breeding is the biggest PitA

[west pilot]

Cooking and lab is slower in early

With vault it's a bit more fast tho

[onyx patrol]

a bit

I'm still not sure whether to burn the eggs asap for dna, or to save them for the amped breeding exp

[west pilot]

The boost with higher rarities seems decent

[mint rivet]

good card setup for onyx statue farming? I don't have minichiefs

[timid spruce]

!merit4

[candid scarab]

1️⃣ Buy one point of spice spillage. This gives you up to a 20% chance to claim all your spices when claiming over an hour of afk gains. Since spices generate more slowly the more you have produced since last claim this will improve spice production.
2️⃣ Having more bubbles get upgraded each day will help a lot, especially when combined with buffs giving more levels per bubble. Only buy this if you can reach the No Bubble Left Behind node in the lab.
3️⃣ Egg capacity is limited and every time the hatchery fills up eggs are wasted until you unlock the rarity upgrade. Also helps you get two achievements with good rewards requiring egg capacity.
4️⃣ Allows you to connect to lab bonuses from slightly farther away which can reduce the number of characters needed in the lab. Note that the max distance between characters, which is called line width, doesn't increase.
5️⃣ Improves kills per hour in W4 but since you likely won't be pushing W4 portals for long this is relatively low priority.
6️⃣ Max level spice spillage triggers every time. They are lower priority since it takes a lot of star talent points and is likely to trigger several times in a row when checking multiple characters.
7️⃣ 3 crystal mobs per day is very little.
Unlocks the recipes for troll armor giving all stat% and the base for all further armor upgrades. It is great but require plenty of Nullo Salt. Don't buy it if you can't craft them.

[mint rivet]

and going in with 24x dr

[vernal hinge]

how do i unlock the 3th subclass on mage warrior and archer?

[coral peak]

world 4

[onyx patrol]

!help

[candid scarab]

🚫 thavaris, that command is disabled in this channel.

[coral peak]

4th zone

[vernal hinge]

oh

[mint rivet]

eliteus

started 2:27:00

[west breach]

General Question: Is there a way to neglate the negative "bonus" of Prayers? Like with a companion or something else (i missed in some updates maybe)

[timid spruce]

!merit3

[candid scarab]

1️⃣ One point into Telekinetic Storage which has an ability to deposit all items in your inventory into the chest while destroying everything on the ground. This is a great quality of life feature. Skip this if you have the ram companion.
2️⃣ Buy until you have 3 building spots and 3 food slots. This can be between 0 and 2 purchases depending on gem shop purchases. Food slots will help your pusher go faster and 3 building spots is a 50% construction speed boost.
3️⃣ Talent levels are hugely important and the library should be used as much as possible.
4️⃣ The 3D printer will be how you get most of you skilling materials in the future. To make good use of it you need your sample size to be as close to the 90% cap as possible.
5️⃣ Buy the rest. More slots = more better.
6️⃣ Leveling telekinetic storage gives up to +13.6% Carry Cap which is good for afking longer, stamps and crafting, but is not a priority early on.
7️⃣ You won't get enough points to consider buying respawn for a long time by which you will have cleared all W3 portals.
Get the first level when you reach rank 3 on orange salt and get another level each time a new salt reaches rank 3.
⚔️ The last recipe is for the Chizoars Caustic Scarf which is best in slot for a long time giving both damage and respawn. Get this when you can complete the associated task of beating Chizoar with 8 characters. Other recipes are for Chizoar gear. The helmet gives +15% damage and can be considered if you are making purple salt. The other pieces are mediocre but some make the chestplate for 3% damage.

[west breach]

how did u get the 2nd card?

[mint rivet]

never use this though

[mint rivet]

the emperor card, got from opening w6 card pack

[timid spruce]

how many did u open

[mint rivet]

a few

[west breach]

oohhh THAT was it, i understand and thanks for the tipp 😄

[mint rivet]

like 3 or 4

[timid spruce]

i open like 6 and didnt get it

[mint rivet]

you only want a 3 star one

[mint rivet]

you are welcome

[atomic grove]

What is the 3rd gem upgrade I should prioritize?

Got anvil and printer so far

[golden obsidian]

what should i use a t16 ribbon on

[mint rivet]

card slots

[atomic grove]

All 4?

[mint rivet]

yes all 4

that should have been the 2nd purchase, before u got to w3

[coral peak]

Ok i'll take a bit to finish those when i only start W4

[zenith hare]

its a 2/3 chance to get any emp card then its a 1/3 after to get the dr one

[atomic grove]

I didnt really get alot of gem tbh

[mint rivet]

so a 1/3 * 2/3 = 2/9 packs?

and then that card has to be 3 star too

[zenith hare]

if you want exactly the dr emp card yeah

[mint rivet]

oh wow statue farming on DK is insanely fast now compared to before

[atomic grove]

Oh yeah, which card should I 5* first?

[zenith hare]

a crystal chance card

[mint rivet]

ctroll, or emperor if u have it

[atomic grove]

Im in early w4 rn

Class promote map

[zenith hare]

emp, the boss card, cant even be obtained without gems rn via w6 pack

[obtuse python]

I think imma buy sacred methods

I kinda want cobalt robe tho

[atomic grove]

So I just save it yea?

[zenith hare]

yeah

[atomic grove]

Got it

[obtuse python]

Should I use the ribbon on anything

[mint rivet]

ended 2:42:00 -took aprox 15 mins for aprox 5500 statues

[mint rivet]

you were alr told

[obtuse python]

Wait where

[mint rivet]

you should be asking when

[severe cloak]

How i can be good at world 3?

[mint rivet]

do alchemy and upgrade vault

[obtuse python]

When then

[severe cloak]

I finished it

[mint rivet]

366 statues/min, not too bad

[severe cloak]

What i should do next?

[obtuse python]

O found it

[mint rivet]

u finished alchemy?

[obtuse python]

What’s cabbages bonuses?

[severe cloak]

What i do in alchemy?

[severe cloak]

Kiddin im almost done at alchemy

What should i do next ??

[obtuse python]

Not in w3

[mint rivet]

NO ur not almost done

you will NEVER EVER be done

[severe cloak]

Oh f ;-;

[obtuse python]

I will guarantee you are not even 0.01% way there

[severe cloak]

Ye i guess ;-;

[obtuse python]

What level is your shaquaraccy for example?

[mint rivet]

he doesn't even know what that is yet

[severe cloak]

Yep

[obtuse python]

Then keep on brewing bubbles

[mint rivet]

watch/read some in game guides to learn how alchemy works

[obtuse python]

Don’t upgrade 2 bubbles and say your “done” I’m still only W5 and alch helps a ton

[severe cloak]

What about post office ?

[mint rivet]

alchemy is the biggest skill out there

[mint rivet]

do that too if its not expensive

[severe cloak]

Okay thanks

I come back when im done 💀💀

[mint rivet]

boxes are shared between characters, each has the same amount, spend them wisely based on the class of the character

[atomic grove]

Titanic llama made some good guide about alc

Should go check it out

[severe cloak]

Okay okay

[west pilot]

You didn't have onyx mining(?

💀

[mint rivet]

almost all onyxed statues so far are from bosses, never seriously farmed statues on DK before

[west pilot]

💀

[mint rivet]

am fixing that rn

[uncut widget]

after claiming the spices from breeding, where does it go?

cant seem to find it or use it for upgrades in the kitchen, shows 0/2 with a (?) spice

[mint rivet]

go to kitchen upgrades

why does this not work? claimed my daily tickets, and it was 3

[west pilot]

it's when you use them

[uncut widget]

yeahh, im there now but it isnt showing any available spices

im on steam if that matters

[mint rivet]

so i get double the amount of what

[west pilot]

of tickets

[mint rivet]

so when I use tickets I get double the amount of tickets is what you're saying?

[uncut widget]

oh i get it, each individual kitchen has different types of spice required, and i just havent unlocked that spice yet i guess

[uncut widget]

thanks

[mint rivet]

oh I understand, ty

[mint rivet]

np

well I got some work to do, where is best to farm crystals on DK? at sandy pots?

[indigo stratus]

yeah

[mint rivet]

started 2:58:00

exp book statue gonna be pain

[steep knoll]

Iam on the Gelatine Enemys on w4 rn can someone pls tell me what type of gear i should get on each character cause i cant find anything

[thorny zinc]

is this a good loadout? + maestro and 1 more dk

[west pilot]

Why you skilling

[thorny zinc]

im trying to level up my bubbles and vials

[quaint shadow]

budget? amarok with w4 upgrade stone pretty much carry till late w4, have enough resource? get dementia. for survivability get goblet of hemoglobin. with elite class should be easy enough to keep alive

[west pilot]

?

[quaint shadow]

3d print

[west pilot]

Print

You don't skill at that point besides for lvls

You going to break your maestro lvls

[steep knoll]

aight thx was working on dementia rn anyway and already have amarok with w4 stones

[thorny zinc]

im not really doing a great job rn on printing

[quaint shadow]

get better eff gear and card, we start somewhere anyway. get ur lab asap it should boost ur acc better than spend hours on skilling

[thorny zinc]

okay thx

[west pilot]

And get maestro on highest lvls

To boost eff with hands

[quaint shadow]

ur only concern for bubble at this point only fmj and shaq, get ur chars to w4 and working on lab while push through w4 and get divinity. once u get there things going to go fast anyway. i print literally 3.4k oaks into 7m in just a few week and then start doing ur bubble with active bubo

[thorny zinc]

lol ok i will work on that then

[ocean belfry]

lab boosts acc? how?

[regal valley]

shud i max printer sampling talent

[royal garden]

prayer? y

talent too

[ocean belfry]

i believe yes.

[limpid flint]

wtf

[ocean belfry]

it's really good.

[limpid flint]

my screen went white is that normal?

[regal valley]

ohok

[thorny zinc]

happened to me too

[royal garden]

Equinox: 5 Get a single sample of 1 million or more of any item. 7 digit

[ocean belfry]

Me too. It's been doing that for a week now.

[limpid flint]

just?

[quaint shadow]

double print, mob respawn, extra money, some little things that not really be seen is pretty huge if added up

[ocean belfry]

(only for me though. I tried asking on gen chat but they said they don't experience it)

[limpid flint]

it literally just went white and the FIRST THING i did was come here LOL

my PC is beast enough for this potato game

[thorny zinc]

not for idleon tho xd

[hard wraith]

which food should i put ribbons on? i've only got about the 1st shelf unlocked

[limpid flint]

it aint my PC lagging its the world bruv

[regal valley]

also bout the gem shop
i got the golden anvil from w1/2 shop
what else shud i get i got 1k gems

[limpid flint]

how tf can it even go whitescreen crashing lmao

[thorny zinc]

just reopen the game it should fix it

[ocean belfry]

i see the double print.

[quaint shadow]

3d printer

[ocean belfry]

that didn't fix mine. it just does it repeatedly for me. does capping fps work? i have it on 200fps

[limpid flint]

i am today's years old til i realized golden foods buff stacks

[ocean belfry]

same, 1 week ago

[quaint shadow]

have you turn it off and on again?

[hushed crescent]

can anyone say me what defeat all 5 difficulties of a weekly battle boss rip! means like whats a weekly battle boss?

[quaint shadow]

the boss in the w2 town

[ocean belfry]

oh sry, that was about the white screen. not sure wym by on and off. also, this is my current lab.

[hushed crescent]

ty

[ocean belfry]

Idk what the sigil is

[quaint shadow]

get off that sigil bonus and get the worldly shrine

[ocean belfry]

i can't reach that other one yet

[thorny zinc]

sigils are worth to invest in them later

[quaint shadow]

sigil are wayyy late game

[zenith hare]

this i think

[quaint shadow]

when you unlock all ur bubbles and have ur cauldron max upgrades

[hexed gale]

how to get more max level of the roll da dice talent

[zenith hare]

https://discord.com/channels/437797104786604034/1157094107085283428

[ocean belfry]

also, i have 2x the lab class (bubonic conjurer i think?) they both have the leftist talent thingy that extends the line, but i still can't reach it. do they stack? or no?

[zenith hare]

100 is the max

[thorny zinc]

btw watching griffy and nocturnegaming videos will help you a lot

[hexed gale]

sad

[zenith hare]

they do not stack

[zenith hare]

ehhhhhhhhhhhh

[ocean belfry]

fuck.

[zenith hare]

notcurne yes, griffy no

[quaint shadow]

they can buff each other, means that if one on the leftmost and the other on the rightmost u got both buff but 2 bubos are not advisable sadly

[zenith hare]

griffy either steals other peoples guides and doesnt credit them, or its aimed at whales

[zenith hare]

bubo can do that by himself later on :p

[thorny zinc]

damn

[quaint shadow]

how

[ocean belfry]

yea, though i already have it. i read from some reddit post they "wish they did 2x shaman early" for the alchemy, so i did, sadly

[zenith hare]

vman

tho you should aim to get that by mid-late w5

[zenith hare]

reddit isnt the best source of information

[desert sapphire]

for the 10th character, its a 2nd SB or a 2nd BB?

[zenith hare]

neither, keep it as beginner for now

but if you HAD to, second bb is best rn

[regal valley]

okk thnxx

[ocean belfry]

true. though i wasn't on discord that time.

[desert sapphire]

i see

[zenith hare]

as second sb became REALLY bad after the hole was released

[desert sapphire]

just wait for the new class update ig

[zenith hare]

yeah, thats main reason

master classes will shift up the meta

[desert sapphire]

aight tyvm <3

[hard wraith]

what about 8th/9th, si that still es/dk?

[idle night]

it feels like im getting way too low resources on my 3d printer, i get about 1500kills/h on green mushrooms yet they give me 50 mushroom caps / hour

[zenith hare]

yeah, dk scales end game too much to not get

[idle night]

any simple solutions?

[quaint shadow]

idk man i have 2 es 2 dks and 2 bb, then someone said 2 sb and i regret but then the meta change again

[zenith hare]

thats normal

up ur afk%, mob respawn, and mk

[thorny zinc]

so 2 dk and 2es is a solid option?

[zenith hare]

nah 2 sb has been bad for the past 4 months

[zenith hare]

yeah

[idle night]

my afk% is 106%, and mobrespawn i maxed fron the merit store

what is mk?

[quaint shadow]

multikill

[ocean belfry]

OH. Does the "px" in the lab mean the length of its line? So I should try to level up my lab levels to reach further?

[quaint shadow]

try hit 75

[desert sapphire]

but at this point in idleon, isn't it better to rush w5 and just do divinity until 5th god 😭 before hitting 75

[quaint shadow]

true

[idle night]

damn is 50 mushroom caps/h all that i can reach? i see people in w4 like me getting 10k+

[quaint shadow]

while having ur other chars in the lab

[idle night]

how do they achieve this?

[ocean belfry]

oh, rush w5 first?

[quaint shadow]

get through w4 and start working on div

[zenith hare]

yes but its even better to go up to 3rd god and rush w6 first before doing that

[quaint shadow]

that's what i did

[desert sapphire]

funny you say that because that's what i did haha

felt like with the ammount of the vault boosts that it was possible

and it rly was 😭

[zenith hare]

hole did it, not vault :3

[hard wraith]

im in that exact situation, just unlocked 3rd god. which class should i push with? my es is highest level

[quaint shadow]

tried to push w6 a few month ago was so weak before i got my stuff done, now im in early w6 but still getting starting getting my gears done

[zenith hare]

up to you

[desert sapphire]

my hole is literally at 0 still, is it that important?

[ocean belfry]

7x lab, 1x pusher?

[quaint shadow]

yes and no, do what u can do on ur characters. i personally just getting some opals and working on the villager bonus

[exotic swallow]

There we go 🤷

whats the class xp cardset

[quaint shadow]

pretty much, there are many things that is you need to juggle at the same time but most are time gated, and you can just get off the lab once u got some boost on ur acc to do reprint and back to the lab cave rinse and repeat. pretty much sums up w4 experience. think of it like cultivating in the wuxia novel kind of stuff. once you get out ur other char can be as stronk as ur pusher in just a few days

[uneven obsidian]

db guide as a setup in it for xp

[exotic swallow]

ty SmashedPookie

[ocean belfry]

that doesn't reset the "24h" from the No Bubble Left Behind?

[uneven obsidian]

nblb will tringer at your daily reset as long as the node is enabled when that happen

[quaint shadow]

pushing my bubble with bubo on a crappy gear now since it's finally out of the cave and become my highest lvl character and i don'thave the book artifact yet!!

[exotic swallow]

crappy gear

[quaint shadow]

u only need the bonus active when u log in the first time of the day

[exotic swallow]

has robe, phoenix wings

[ocean belfry]

OH. SHIT. Thanks.

[quaint shadow]

but the void armor

my refinery is crap i just realized i fucked up 4 days ago and now im trying to get it done and fix my nullo salt output

and start doing my troll gear then i am wayyyyyyyyy too crappy for my level am i not? :3

[exotic swallow]

doesnt matter

its fine, yes u could get chizo but not like its huge

idk if u have enough nullo for troll, but anyway

[quaint shadow]

nowhere near enough for 1 piece

[exotic swallow]

then ur fine

[royal garden]

troll gear is one you upgrade till teh end

[errant mirage]

best/fastest way to farm power statue?

[exotic swallow]

dont worry about armour, unless u want to craft chizo to slab it

[quaint shadow]

dk with choco

go to frog

[uneven obsidian]

beans

[exotic swallow]

dk crystal build, beans

[quaint shadow]

i mean beans

[errant mirage]

oh okay thanks y'all

[exotic swallow]

beans is the place for w1 gfood/statues grind

[strange wadi]

how many lvls of time and respawn at killroy to get 2000 kills? i have 50 in both and are maxxing out at around 1000

[oak tendon]

I just got to w4 and I have a question. Do you have to keep your characters in the lab to recieve the bonuses they link to?

[zenith hare]

no im here

[zenith hare]

respawn is bad, time is better

[zenith hare]

yes

[quaint shadow]

until u get arctis divinity

[zenith hare]

aim to get all elite classes, then shove everyone into lab minus ur main w4 pusher

[mint rivet]

I only got 2300 exp book statues in an hour and half? @zenith hare am I doing smth wrong?

[oak tendon]

Whos best to push with

[zenith hare]

14 hours for onyx is great

[mint rivet]

other statues i got many of

[zenith hare]

BB if you afk, DK/ES if you active

[mint rivet]

its GREAT?

[zenith hare]

look at the crystal drop table, youll understand why

[oak tendon]

@zenith hare thanks for the help

[mint rivet]

oh alr

[inner shoal]

whats the 2nd most effective way to get chocy chip? next rota is april ;-;

[mint rivet]

gamba

[inner shoal]

the gem shop gamba?

[zenith hare]

yes, thats the only other way

[inner shoal]

damn ok ty

[topaz plover]

Pingy comes after owls right?

[zenith hare]

yes iirc

[topaz plover]

THANK GOD ITS ALMOST OVER

I've been trying to get to pingy for a week to unlock tab 4

[mint rivet]

oh accidentaly got a lad

[topaz plover]

I want to actually start farming the first w6 mob for money instead of moles, so Void weapons aren't cutting it anymore

[mint rivet]

weapons don't matter much

[zenith hare]

me when damage doesnt matter much in w6

[mint rivet]

what does matter is alchemy

[zenith hare]

no not even that.

[mint rivet]

ur saying alchemy does not matter?

[zenith hare]

what matters is move speed, mob respawn, afk%, and kpk

[zenith hare]

alchemy does very little for base kph

[mint rivet]

better than 0

anything that contributes matters

[zenith hare]

then damage matters.

which means weapons matter

you have contradicted yourself

[mint rivet]

nah I never said weapons don't matter at all

[zenith hare]

you basically did

[mint rivet]

nuh uh

[exotic swallow]

yap king

just call an endgamer to put meme bean into his place

if needed

[thorny zinc]

i need shiny critters but i cant get them. is it better to just put traps with 20 mins until u get some to upgrade the traps? i usually put them on 20 hours

[mint rivet]

emem bean is late game, right?

[zenith hare]

im at 90Sx damage now~

[mint rivet]

the dmg counter spiraled out of control, I don't even know how to rank people based on dmg

[zenith hare]

i remember when endgame was considered 1Sx

[merry halo]

what do journey man good for?

[zenith hare]

he is ur family man

[exotic swallow]

now it should be considered way higher

[thorny zinc]

everything

[zenith hare]

he buffs everyone else by being better then others in skills

[merry halo]

should i get him as my 7th charcter

[zenith hare]

which is VERY hard to do if you keep doing useless skilling (printer exists)

[thorny zinc]

yep

[zenith hare]

yes

[merry halo]

ok

[mint rivet]

endgame is like 1E23, right?

[zenith hare]

might as well call me endgame then

E23 is 100Sx

[exotic swallow]

idk lol

[thorny zinc]

can you remove ribbons from a meal after you use it?

[eager laurel]

why does my sentinel axe thrown by death bringer show miss when it lands on a mob i have enough accuracy for?

[exotic swallow]

meme bean early endgame

[zenith hare]

no

[thorny zinc]

so should i wait until i max one then use it ?

[zenith hare]

do you have 0 points invested into the axe talent in tab 3?

[zenith hare]

no

[gritty nymph]

Bruh my hooplyte situation got worse it now crashes even when I press nah

[mint rivet]

Am I midgame yet?

[zenith hare]

you save it for really good meals

[thorny zinc]

oh okay

[eager laurel]

ok now thats fixes it lmao

[zenith hare]

leave the room instead

[pulsar flint]

Why cant I place a trap? I have the quest from the dude in W3 to collect 100 Froge, but when I'm standing here to place it, I get the "place trap" button, and I choose the duration, but then nothing happens.

[zenith hare]

0 damage = miss. you had a 0% damage axe

[exotic swallow]

how much dmg is midgame

[gritty nymph]

Ok

[zenith hare]

have you equipped the trap?

[zenith hare]

¯_(ツ)_/¯

[eager laurel]

so max axe in tab 3 is good?

[zenith hare]

i like to think mid game is when vman can kill nkruk

[zenith hare]

yeah

[pulsar flint]

Oh, it needed to be equipped. I thought the message I got said it shouldnt be equipped. Thanks 🙂

[eager laurel]

ok thnx thnx

[quartz osprey]

What are the good meals to use ribbons on

I have like 7 more ribbons

[zenith hare]

gold food%, TD points, breed chance (low tier ribbons only), basic attack speed, the w6 bonuses

[quartz osprey]

Thanks

[errant ice]

Is there anyway to get to caverns without being in world 5?

[west pilot]

💀

[topaz plover]

How do I upgrade the boxes from the breeding arena rewards? I can't find them in the office

[exotic swallow]

quitting the game and going to caverns irl

[clear pivot]

i have a question about traps... is this a bait? i'm trying to farm crescent scorpie and in a few days i got none i think... so either i am wrong or there is something going on with that 1/60 ...

[topaz plover]

What's your shiny chance with that trap?

[empty agate]

I also have a question on traps, how do I get my shiny chance up, like Im trying to get a poison froge but it's taking forever

[clear pivot]

oh god there's a shiny chance? :\

[topaz plover]

Tap on the trap after placing it, that's how likely you are to get a shiny

That trap multiplies that chance by 60x, so I'd assume it's a decent number

[fiery smelt]

that should get you more shinies than other traps. But less normal critters, which is the trade off

[empty agate]

What y'all recommend

[clear pivot]

can't i see it from the trapper drone? i have to go to the place?

[topaz plover]

If you need to up your shiny chance, there's a bubble in the green cauldron that multiplies it

[topaz plover]

You have to click on the actual placed trap

[empty agate]

Every time I try to get a new bubble it fails

[empty agate]

Got me stressing

[topaz plover]

Are you doing it on your shaman? Most of my bubbles are at about 1% chance normally, but shaman can boost that to 4-5%

[empty agate]

My sign to make a shaman

[topaz plover]

You DONT have a shaman?????

[empty agate]

I was to lazy to make him, I have every character except a shaman 😭

[topaz plover]

How many characters do you have?

[empty agate]

4,barbarian,Bowman, wizard, squire, and Hunter

Time to make a shaman

[clear pivot]

the shiny chance is that 100% ?

[west pilot]

it's 1%

[topaz plover]

Yep, you are 100% guaranteed to get a shiny from that trap

[empty agate]

Mines at 10 bro😭

[empty agate]

So 10 is bad then right

[winged wagon]

i need tips on breeding not sure what to do for frosty peaks

[topaz plover]

It's not terrible but it's worse than 100

[west pilot]

what do you think

[west pilot]

get more pet slots

[winged wagon]

im big noob with breeding (this game in general)

[empty agate]

Insanely bad

[winged wagon]

how

[topaz plover]

I'd say you don't need to focus on trapping rn tbh, you have bigger problems, you don't even have a shaman yet man

[scarlet meadow]

Is the leek worth giving a ribbon to

[west pilot]

arena tho

[quaint iron]

i need to get 1.8k starfield skies spice in 24 hours, should i replace alch/forager with fleeter/flashy? it jumps up to 94m/hr

[empty agate]

Yea I js started w3 like a few weeks ago

[shadow lark]

what are you doing there for a few weeks

[west pilot]

you have converter?

[simple walrus]

Got anvil tab 4

[west pilot]

also put 4 whales down

[quaint iron]

i do yeah

[west pilot]

swap forager for converter

[topaz plover]

All you need out of w3 rn is construction for stuff like library, ignore that entire world otherwise for now

[winged wagon]

what you mean arena?

[west pilot]

you have chance to free claim again

[dusty harness]

game still runs if you turn the monitor off right?

[empty agate]

I was like focusing on construction and printing stuff that I need, grinding materials I needed, going to the next levels

[shadow lark]

it tends to desync but yes

[west pilot]

breeding arena

[shadow lark]

just go w4, not worth grinding w3

[dusty harness]

im sure it will be fine

[winged wagon]

whats that?

[empty agate]

I thought w3 was important

[topaz plover]

Trust me, you can just check up on construction a few times a week, but you NEED to do stuff in w2

[empty agate]

Yea I'm doing that

[west pilot]

ffs

[topaz plover]

It is important, but you need to actually do the preparations in w2

[winged wagon]

sorry im noob

[shadow lark]

well theres nothing to grind in w3 to improve prints or construction

[west pilot]

you at frosty peaks and don't know pet arena?

[topaz plover]

You gotta work on your w2 stuff before you can do that

[empty agate]

What I need to do in w2

[topaz plover]

Nothing

[west pilot]

get to w4

[topaz plover]

You need to do w2

[west pilot]

[pastel portal]

why are these golden, i forgot

[mint rivet]

gilded slots

[topaz plover]

You can't just ignore w2

[empty agate]

W2 I meant

[shadow lark]

atoms

[topaz plover]

Get a shaman IMMEDIATELY

[empty agate]

Bet

[west pilot]

trimmed slots. they give better build speed

[topaz plover]

DONT HES TROLLING

[pastel portal]

preciate it zaddy

[empty agate]

What's wrong with w4

[topaz plover]

You aren't ready

[west pilot]

you are

[topaz plover]

HE DOESNT HAVE A SHAMAN

[empty agate]

Yuh ik, you think 5000-15000 damage is good or nahhh

[west pilot]

he has slot to make it?

[pastel portal]

dont 💀 me

[mint rivet]

you are in w2?

[empty agate]

I'm working on it 😭

[topaz plover]

Absolutely not enough damage

[empty agate]

Early w3

[mint rivet]

better than blocking

[mint rivet]

no its not good

[empty agate]

I do, I was js lazy

[topaz plover]

Do not even CONSIDER pushing to w4 yet

[empty agate]

How do I get my damage up fast

How do I get everything up, I'm cooked 😭

[topaz plover]

Trust me, shaman for alchemy will be the most important

[mint rivet]

alchemy, vault, owl, roo

[fiery smelt]

you should immediately make new characters when you unlock the new slots, and aim to have at least one of each subclass

[pastel portal]

so is that the steps? skull react then blocking

[topaz plover]

Everything loops back to alchemy somehow, do as much as you can there

[mint rivet]

and don't forget about the stamps

[topaz plover]

Stamps is good too

[empty agate]

Let me show y'all my stats rq

[west pilot]

another day trapped in TD

[topaz plover]

That'd be helpful

[west pilot]

💀

[mint rivet]

💀

prepare your pinches

[west pilot]

bro go get your onyx

before you pinch anyone

[mint rivet]

playing smth else rn

[empty agate]

Don't mind the missing helmet

[mint rivet]

why do you store candy in your inventory

[topaz plover]

So you don't have a shaman

[mint rivet]

its not like u got space to do so

[topaz plover]

And you have a level 95 barb in THERMISTERS

What is this account

[west pilot]

based

[topaz plover]

I don't understand this

[west pilot]

average barb main

[empty agate]

I don't have space in the chest 😭

[empty agate]

Uh is that a good thing

[mint rivet]

U do not have space FOR CANDIES?

[topaz plover]

No

[mint rivet]

get the vault space upgrade or smth

[empty agate]

I might actually be cooked

[mint rivet]

take out other stuff

[topaz plover]

This account has put the fear of God back into me

[mint rivet]

relatable

[west pilot]

i don't want to see yours

[empty agate]

You not ready for the death note thing for my green mushrooms

It's a purple point, FOR GREEN MUSHROOMS

Or what even the purple thing is called

[fiery smelt]

that's.. useful but right now there are probably more important things

maybe like making a shaman :')

[empty agate]

Needa up my game

[empty agate]

Nopeee

[mint rivet]

make some rn

[empty agate]

So y'all got any recommendations

[topaz plover]

1. GET THE DAMN SHAMAN
2. Get bubbles done in alchemy using your shaman, when the bubbles are at about 10% in each cauldron you should be good
3. Level up FMJ and Shaquraccy as much as you can, they are bubbles in orange and green
4. Optional, but try getting a jman. It'll help out if you can get to mman soon, but it's not needed rn. If you do, get shaman first.

I think that's it?

[mint rivet]

nah, keep going, you are going to break records

[empty agate]

What about gear

[topaz plover]

Oh right, try to do Owl and Roo until you get to Megafeathers and Megafish

[fiery smelt]

assuming you're not trolling us, just keep playing or listen to our advice, it's your game :)

[topaz plover]

Get full amarok on everyone, EXCEPT THE HELMET

You can use the class specific helmets

[fiery smelt]

anything you do will make you stronger, some things are much more efficient than others though

[empty agate]

What does the owl do again

[topaz plover]

You get bonuses like damage% and xp%

[fiery smelt]

random pretty strong bonuses

[topaz plover]

It's very useful

Also, use the vault as much as you physically can. It's so OP.

[empty agate]

Alright, I will come back in a hour , I will let you know what process I made

[topaz plover]

Oh sweet I'm yellow now

[fiery smelt]

the vault has some amazing bonuses as well, check those out. I'm almost tempted to make a second account just to see what the start of the game is like now that the vault is out :/

[topaz plover]

👍

[mint rivet]

early game buffs

[empty agate]

I spent a lot of money on the vault already

[topaz plover]

It's very helpful, my jman only account is doing much better than I expected

[empty agate]

But I will try

[neon ferry]

I'm super close to reaching w4(I'm absolutely putting everyone on the lab day one)

[ebon tapir]

!gear

[empty agate]

Brb in a hour

[candid scarab]

Gear Recommendations

[topaz plover]

The vault is your #1 moneysink all the time

[cold wraith]

#bot-commands

[ebon tapir]

oh mb

[cold wraith]

what else is there to buy atp

[leaden isle]

leave your squire out of the lab, use it to push W4 to get to W5 so you can take all your character out of the lab while keeping bonus's

[topaz plover]

Honestly I don't know

[cold wraith]

exactly

[mint rivet]

what about stamps

[topaz plover]

Forgot those cost money lol

[cold wraith]

theyre locked behind mats a point tho

some at least

[mint rivet]

yeah that too

[cold wraith]

others just take a shit load of coins

[mint rivet]

I don't believe vault detroned stamps from n1 money sink

[cold wraith]

well you gotta remember stamps dont have a limit

the only limit is mat cap but upgrade vault has a max level that each can go to

but that ugprade is impossible reach as the amt of coins hasnt been reached yet

[mint rivet]

i am sure the vault will be expanded even more

but can never beat something endless, unless it becomes endless

[ember hound]

What should I green first for equinox? I have like 15 green items

[mint rivet]

u mean green stacks?

[ember hound]

Yes

[cold wraith]

w1 materials are easy

[mint rivet]

green the easily printable mats

[cold wraith]

you can also go for w5/w6 food if you have high shop cap

[fiery smelt]

the vault feels like sort of a cop out with all of the quite strong bonuses, like I'm being cheated out of the time I've spent on the game before the vault was out. Anyone else feel that way, or have some convincing argument on why I shouldn't feel that way? Cause I don't want to feel that way about it :P

[ember hound]

Ok thank you

[ember hound]

Thank you!

[mint rivet]

np

[mint rivet]

i am just glad the vault made me better

[ember hound]

Oh that's a good idea

[mint rivet]

it helps some earlier, some later, but everyone is helped

[grand nebula]

Does Action Frenzy work on refinery?

[winged wagon]

where is the tip to unlock level 50 in pet arena

[ember hound]

I returned after a long time so it's a good surprise and let's me catch up quickly, though about the time spent, the tome can justify it

[fiery smelt]

I've never really looked at the tome, the bonuses didn't seem that good. Am I missing something?

[ember hound]

No the bonuses are mid but your ranking across the players of the game can justify your time spent 🙂

[fiery smelt]

oh I don't really care about that, I play this as a single player game :)

I'm already spending so much time on it, if I start getting competitive it will be unhealthy

[mint rivet]

maybe its bonuses aren't that good, but BUBBLES increase based on tome points

[fiery smelt]

they do? :-o haven't seen that

[mint rivet]

some bubbles increase every 2000 tome points above 5000, its in the w6 section

[thorny zinc]

is equinox worth unlocking right?

[gritty nymph]

Only late game

[fiery smelt]

ahh, I'm not even close to that. Alchemy level 64, bubbles around W4 I think

Also have not even unlocked the 5th smithing tab yet

I'm really stuck on those Nullo Salts

[gritty nymph]

How are people so good at alchemy I barely have lvl 30 bubbles and I am w5

[fiery smelt]

my bubbles are also not that great. Really want to do some cranium cooking but I feel like I should get lvl 200 tenteyecle first

[gritty nymph]

Lvl 200 makes it guaranteed

?

[fiery smelt]

makes what guaranteed?

oh the reduction? No, but it increases from 2 to 3 seconds

[pine fiber]

lvl200 tent is needed for breakpoint

[dense pine]

lvl 200 makes tenteycle reduce an extra sec per proc

[gritty nymph]

Ohhh

[fiery smelt]

which makes it so that mobs are constantly respawning rather than having to wait for the respawns I think

[gritty nymph]

Now I know why I couldn't start cranium cooking earlier

[fiery smelt]

just guessing, I'm not there yet. I've pushed my sailing to the island that gives +25 talents but I've been getting unlucky at actually getting the relic

[gritty nymph]

What island is that?

[shadow lark]

do you have slug?

[dense pine]

pretty much, that and the CC cooldown is just much shorter

[fiery smelt]

I think the 8th or 9th island

[fiery smelt]

no :( so I don't think I can hit 200 talents yet

[gritty nymph]

Oh too far

[fiery smelt]

I just put all my boats on unlocking until I got there. Not very efficient but I really want that +25 talents :P

[fiery smelt]

yeah that makes sense ;) I tried doing cranium cooking now but it takes hours to get the cooldown to 0

[gritty nymph]

Nah I don't move from an island untill I get all relics I am incredibly stubborn

[arctic flume]

In some dense maps I can get it to reset cooldown near instantly.

[fiery smelt]

that's what I did too, and I'll get back to that when I get this one

[arctic flume]

Me too man (I ancient it too)

[clear pivot]

are you linked to arctic god? it gives some talent points

[gritty nymph]

I am missing one relic from island one

Wait how to unlock ancient?

[fiery smelt]

I think I have the arctic god linked through the hole

[clear pivot]

k

[fiery smelt]

random chance after you've unlocked it regularly

yeah I have arctis and elephant god linked in the hole

[gritty nymph]

Define unlocking it regularly

[fiery smelt]

unlock the "normal" relic and then you can get the ancient one by just sailing to the same island again and getting lucky

[pastel heart]

get same relic

[gritty nymph]

Hmmmm nah my relic chance is too low I have literally 6.21% chance for relic

[fiery smelt]

a lot higher than mine :)

hmm. I'm not sure I'd even get level 200 with that relic...

[gritty nymph]

IT GETS WORSE?!

Thanks lava

[uneven obsidian]

.1% attempts feel like they where normal atthe end of the grind

[oak lynx]

W5 baby :D'

[fiery smelt]

yeah I'm around 0.9% I think for getting the fury relic

[dense pine]

gzgz

[dense pine]

youll need the 2nd tier if you dont have slug

[fiery smelt]

really.. argh

[dense pine]

• all the other early sources for book like word 3 merrits

[fiery smelt]

might as well stop grinding this relic then I guess

[dense pine]

i mean if youre boats arent too slow it shouldnt matter

just brute force it

especially if you have elephant god

[fiery smelt]

they are slow.. well, some take like 4 days

[zenith hare]

nope

ES level bonus, booked symbols, and arctis minor link bonus is enough to get it from 180

and you can even get to 185 via 1k checkouts

[fiery smelt]

wait, I have max library level 155 now. Add 25 = 180, I should be able to get it then I think?

[arctic flume]

You sure? I got 178 without them

[zenith hare]

reducing need even further

[fiery smelt]

If I get that achievement I'll get +5 more checkout levels but I need 400 more books for that atm

I'm considering just spamming books and dropping them, it's so tedious to try them all :P do "perfect" books count as 20 for the achievement?

[zenith hare]

I think yeah auto arm works for 20 now

[fiery smelt]

interesting

[dense pine]

hm ic

[fiery smelt]

I'll try one. Am at +21 levels now from all sources combined by the way

[dense pine]

i suppose i mustve missed something when i first unlocked CC

[arctic flume]

Wait it does?

[zenith hare]

yeah, has been for a while

[arctic flume]

Since when?

[zenith hare]

over half a year

[arctic flume]

Can’t believe I didn’t know

[fiery smelt]

very nice :) 716 to go now

I feel like I don't want to spend my last 20 books since surely the Fury Relic will happen any minute now.. but I'll get more books if I do spend them :/

[zenith hare]

spamming 1 books at a time is overall better for ach still if you don't have 20 when you log in

as it takes longer to get a new book the more books you have

[dense pine]

what is your %?

[fiery smelt]

yeah exactly. Pulled the trigger, I'm at 0 books now. :)

[fiery smelt]

one second, let me get to w5 :)

[dense pine]

ive been waiting for a 0.1% to drop for a few weeks now

[fiery smelt]

hm no chests available, can I see the odds somewhere?

[dense pine]

uhh idts

[fiery smelt]

it's around 0.9% for normal chests anyway

[mint rivet]

0.9 for fury is good

[fiery smelt]

I'm setting myself random goals, working on getting a bunch of skilling cards to 4 stars now just to have something to do 🤷‍♂️

[fiery smelt]

yeah it's just a matter of spamming chests now. Some of my boats take 4 days to get there though

[mint rivet]

4 DAYS?

DAMN

[fiery smelt]

haha

wish I'd kept track of how many chests I opened so far. Must be around 100

[pastel portal]

whats the best setup for ladles/h?

[mint rivet]

!cooking

!cookingchart

damn i forgot the command

[fiery smelt]

I really shouldn't be sailing this island, but I wanted that fury relic. My fastest boat has 33k speed and slowest has 3.84k

[dry bridge]

which mob is best to farm for this if anyone knows?

[shadow lark]

probably crystal farm on sandy pots

[dry bridge]

i dont think i have anything to setup crystal farm yet, i am early/mid w4

[fiery smelt]

just wait until you get the stamp then I think

or until you can farm crystals :)

[dry bridge]

it is shown as high priority stamp in autoreview for t7 stamps which is where i am at rn early w4

thats why i wanted to but those drop rates looks awful

[stable valve]

rifts suck

[dry bridge]

even the crystal mob one is pretty low

[shadow lark]

just come back later

[fiery smelt]

you can kill hundreds or thousands of crystals per hour soon

[shadow lark]

no point in farming that stamp for days at your level

[fiery smelt]

:)

[mint rivet]

take the day boats off, keep only the ones under a day

[stable valve]

!merit5

[candid scarab]

1️⃣ W5 skill XP will speed up the divinity grind since it helps unlock stronger styles faster.
2️⃣ Aim to keep the loot pile capacity greater than your ship count so you can claim two entire cycles at once without waste.
3️⃣ Mob respawn will help afk kills in W5.
4️⃣ Total all stats will slightly improve most things. Don't buy it if you don't have the star talent points to use it.
5️⃣ Tab 4 talent points can be scarce but you only get 3 per purchase and there are a lot of other ways to get them including class lvls, skill lvls and the alchemy bubbles.
⚛️ The Atom Collider is the last building on the top row of construction requiring Nullo Salt and 10s of millions of resources to use. The discount should be bought before you start buying atom upgrades.
⚔️ The last boss recipe is The Divine Scarf which is among the best items in the game and reasonably easy to craft. This recipe should be gotten as soon as the task of beating nightmare Kruk on all characters can be completed. Earlier recipes are for armor and weapons most of which gives mob respawn significantly improving kills per hour. Get these if you can afford to craft them.

[fiery smelt]

yeah I probably should :X but does help a little

[mint rivet]

its better to do so

[fiery smelt]

fine I took them off, sent them to the snow island

[stable valve]

!merit6

[candid scarab]

⚠️ WARNING: Currently you can't get enough merit points to get everything. Don't buy the talent points.
1️⃣ First 3 purchases give plots making Farming a lot faster.
2️⃣ Summoning Winner Bonuses are very influential at all stages.
3️⃣ Farming mainly for OG chance. Can be swapped with Jade Gain if you prioritize Sneaking more.
4️⃣ Jade Gain is placed low because getting all Jade Emporium purchases is easier than all crops in Farming and since Farming buffs Sneaking.
5️⃣ Mob respawn last. Doesn't save much time. Can be done earlier if you have finished Farming and Sneaking.
⏳ Unreleased. Priority unknown but likely high if/when you can buy them.
⛔ Don't get the talent points even if you have points to spare. The recipes will be higher priority when released.

[fiery smelt]

oh bah, unlocked a captain slot and right after I see the highest tier captain available for recruiting.. which I now don't have money for anymore

[hoary pebble]

How does one fix Vman's worship level if the ES is the one with the highest level? I'm already not stealing anyone's charge but there's still a 3 level difference and I don't wanna stop using my ES's charge to get souls.

[fiery smelt]

use that +XP, -Eff talent the Vman gets?

[hoary pebble]

Oh good idea. Completely forgot about it for worship, thanks.

[fiery smelt]

and of course use skilled dimwit for your ES

[hoary pebble]

ye that one's been on everyone since i got it

[zenith hare]

update when

[mint rivet]

use skilled dimwit on everyone

[west ingot]

Whats the strategy for flag kills on sb for rift

[shadow lark]

id advise against using es charge

youll want decent worship on every character

[hoary pebble]

I am #midgame-chat-w3🧊w4🔮 message I fucked it up early on because I'd steal charge with ES to get a bounty of souls. I stopped doing that once I learned about Vman. It's fixed now, using the transfusion skill gave me a 4 level lead on ES now.

[fiery smelt]

once you get that totem in W3 town, you don't need to steal charge I think? Or is there still a good reason to use it after that?

[shadow lark]

lazyness

[hoary pebble]

I think the skill is bait tbh. It feels like it, at least. If Vman is supposed to be the highest level, stealing charge is counterproductive since ES would use it all to get a bunch more EXP. Then there's also the skill mastery thing and I reckon it's easiest to have all your chars at a high enough level than it is for just one or two.

[fiery smelt]

agreed. And you lose some of the charge, right?

[shrewd dagger]

Which meal should i use my ribbons on? I havent unlocked any of the spices in w5 and 6 yet

[full urchin]

I heard Cabbage is a good one

[dry bridge]

is it normal that i havent even seen my first poison froge after 3 days of trapping?

should i not be doing 20 hour traps?

[hoary pebble]

Are you doing 20 minute claims with silkskin traps?

[west ingot]

How tf does sb flag work lmfao it keeps going back to zero and I need 75 for rift

[shadow lark]

kill stuff quicker

[dry bridge]

i cant craft past base store traps because silkskin requires a poison froge in the first place

was i supposed to do shortest traps to fish for the shiny?

[shadow lark]

yes

[quaint relic]

What is green stacking?

[hoary pebble]

Right. So do 20 minute claims for now. 20 hour claims dont give you the best odds right now. Or ever I think

[shadow lark]

10m of a resource in storage

[hoary pebble]

10M of a resource in your storage

[quaint relic]

Oh that’s nice

Alr

[west ingot]

And I'm supposed to do that how? I one shot the mob in the rift and they respawn to quickly

Especially since there's a talent that respawns them faster

[quasi apex]

Should I make anvil tab 4 or void warrior weapon when I get shiny pingys

[zenith hare]

move speed potions

[shadow lark]

do you have the vman enhanced

[zenith hare]

also not using a bow

[west ingot]

I can check if he's on the right preset

[zenith hare]

as its slower to basic attack

also leveling up the plunder coin talent

and that should do it, even without vman enhance

with vman enhance it makes it uber easy

[fiery smelt]

is it normal to only have 4 anvil tabs and be in W6? or did I prioritize wrong :p

[shadow lark]

i had 3

getting there

[west ingot]

Yeah idk I got to 53 earlier idk how, but I'm killing things extremely fast but it goes to 0 even faster

[obtuse whale]

just dont kill every mob at the same time or else the flag wont scatter since there no monster to jump on

[shadow lark]

wrong rift mission

[west ingot]

What lmao?

[wild urchin]

You can farm your anvils at w6 too cant you?

[shadow lark]

asdert is talking about the wrong mission

you just keep going

[fiery smelt]

how do you mean? I'm trying to unlock the 5th tab but I need a bunch of Nullo Salt

[wild urchin]

Idk what that is but sure just do it

Im only on w3 gng

[fiery smelt]

have you unlocked the refinery in W3? :]

[deep silo]

when can i take my people back outta lab lol

[shadow lark]

in like 100 levels

[obtuse whale]

what world are you now?

[fiery smelt]

Never!!!

[deep silo]

almost w5

[obtuse whale]

you can go to w5 now

[hoary pebble]

Once it's time to jail them in Divinity

[wild urchin]

Yes

[west ingot]

Okay I did it, other times I just got bad rng and my coin drop would run out

[obtuse whale]

unlock arctis or goharut first

[fiery smelt]

that generates salts. I need 600 of the last salt :)

[deep silo]

i'm just held back by the time gate of kills for portals lol

[wild urchin]

Oh damn

[obtuse whale]

there is another 2x kill in divinity

[hoary pebble]

If you've got spare candy, just candy the portals.

[deep silo]

ah nice

i just used all my candies other day to get jman... needed like 250 lvls. jman is 9th char soo i'm already behind lol

[obtuse whale]

just use 1 character for pushing

[hoary pebble]

Huh. You're already messing with jman while still in w4?

[shadow lark]

why wouldnt he

[deep silo]

ye i'm using DK to push

woulda had jman a lot earlier if i did him 7th instead of 9th

[hoary pebble]

I suppose it's fine if he's just trying to get the skilling levels up already.

[deep silo]

ye

literally just got this when switching to him lol

now to chopping

[hoary pebble]

Ye it's fine, it just felt like a mid-late w5 thing to me at least.

[shadow lark]

nah its a as soon as you have your 7th char slot

then maestro asap

then you can chill until w6

[thorny zinc]

I should stop here right?

[shadow lark]

never stop

[faint matrix]

next life time

[hoary pebble]

No point in ever stopping, especially with the new vault upgrade.

[thorny zinc]

oh ok i heard focusing too much on this is bad thing thats why i asked

[shadow lark]

why would it be

just check in once a day and call it

[thorny zinc]

yeah i will do a mega reset per day i think

[hoary pebble]

MF10 is too early to stop or even pause in my opinion. I paused for a while at MF15 because it felt like a slog but I'm back at it after the vault upgrade.

[thorny zinc]

okay thx for the help

[fiery falcon]

How exactly does this work?

[obtuse whale]

just catch anything in "catching"

[wild urchin]

Its crazy the only thing keeping me entartained rn is this server wow

[hoary pebble]

Kinda like it says.
Your chars catch 10^1, 10^2, 10^n bugs and you get +15% dmg for every power of 10 caught.

[zenith hare]

dont depo to storage, and go get some bugs

[fiery smelt]

that bonus feels like it's character specific though, while most others aren't

[hoary pebble]

wait depositing to storage directly doesn't count for this?

[fiery falcon]

10^1?

[fiery smelt]

10^1 = 10

[hoary pebble]

It's a power of 10 I reckon.

[fiery falcon]

Ah ok

[fiery smelt]

this is news to me as well :(

[hoary pebble]

I may have wasted some of these then

[deep silo]

reeee

[zenith hare]

10^x

per x value, you get more damage

[honest dawn]

omg wait what

W

[faint matrix]

[fiery smelt]

ooh

[honest dawn]

jackpot here we come trust

[faint matrix]

it would be a good point to take break from it

not exactl stop but yes

[tidal wolf]

how do i farm power statues?

[hoary pebble]

Crystal Farming at Bored Beans with DK

[tidal wolf]

how do i crystal farm?

[hoary pebble]

1. Choco Chip obtained in W4
2. Poop and Demon Genie cards at a sufficiently high level, I got them both to 4 stars.
3. Droprate out the ass on your Divine Knight, which is what you'll wanna use for those power statues.
4. Crystallin stamp at a sufficiently high level.
5. Orb and Knight Disciple max booked.
   It was only after I did all of these (or most because my stamp isn't at the level the autoreviewer recommends) that I even begun crystal farming at all. If you don't have the choco chip, don't bother at all. If you're trying to grind the 20k power statues, I'd probably wait a while to start doing it. Don't try to complete the quest right now if you've only got to it now.

[steel nymph]

always check pins (or smt)

[hoary pebble]

I'm definitely missing something on the list which is likely in the guides.

[steel nymph]

wonder if db can compete in killroys now

[tidal wolf]

so i should wait on the quest untill i get choco?

[hoary pebble]

absolutely

[mint rivet]

auto review got a list for you

[hoary pebble]

no crystal farming gets done without the chip

[dense egret]

Whens the next time choco chip will be available

[steel nymph]

forgot about this

[faint matrix]

choco chip= times3 speed

[hoary pebble]

The wiki keeps up with the dates apparently

[fiery smelt]

times 4 I think

[faint matrix]

i didnt know this exist damn they have the whole thing ehich tells ur what comes in the lab shop

[fiery smelt]

I asked chatgpt, it gave me a formula which resulted in exactly 4x as many crystal spawns with a choc chip

[mint rivet]

sometimes over 10 crystals pop out of one crystal thanks to choco

[steel nymph]

[fiery smelt]

yeah I know, but on average it's exactly 4x

[steel nymph]

it's probably the w4 merit that causes that

[mint rivet]

oh wow I reached 3%

[steel nymph]

first kill after daily reset gives crystals

[mint rivet]

endgamers reached 4%, right?

[faint matrix]

stonks

[mint rivet]

nah, those are daily crystals, i don't count those

[steel nymph]

who knows

[hoary pebble]

What's your stamp's level?

[steel nymph]

those guys are monsters

comparing won't do good

ohh mihgt hit 2k for the cloud

[hoary pebble]

[steel nymph]

NO 1927 I WAS SO CLOSE

[mint rivet]

are those donuts in w4?

on DK?

[steel nymph]

ye

[mint rivet]

damn I hit smth like 1920 too

[steel nymph]

well it's fine there's always next time

shit ton of skulls

needed them for booking my second sb's talent lv

[mint rivet]

how hard is mf25 to get

[mint rivet]

i use skulls on the permanent buffs from prime killroy

[steel nymph]

which ones

most of them i don't even bother buyin

waste of skulls if u ask me

[mint rivet]

only permanent, spread out

[empty agate]

ALRIGHT IM BACK

[mint rivet]

all of the permanent ones

[steel nymph]

fair enough

[mint rivet]

jade gain, crop evo, etc

[steel nymph]

arti chance is proly the most useless one for me rn

maybe crop evo could be useful but i don't need that rn

[mint rivet]

i stop investing in that one from now on, since I just snowballed through sailing

[steel nymph]

heard u need like e30 something for the last few crops lol

[west pilot]

nah, 10 fractal is good enough

i fyou want to go higher is up to you

[mint rivet]

how long does MF25 take?

[west pilot]

now less

with vault

[empty agate]

This better or nah?

[mint rivet]

well ..how much time of clicking

that 67.5% dr seems nice