midgame-chat-w3🧊w4🔮

[faint bramble]

Divinity god in w5 makes it so u can play while lab active

[fluid stone]

Do I really need to just wait for null salt production

[hybrid sparrow]

!merit4

[candid scarab]

1️⃣ Buy one point of spice spillage. This gives you up to a 20% chance to claim all your spices when claiming over an hour of afk gains. Since spices generate more slowly the more you have produced since last claim this will improve spice production.
2️⃣ Having more bubbles get upgraded each day will help a lot, especially when combined with buffs giving more levels per bubble. Only buy this if you can reach the No Bubble Left Behind node in the lab.
3️⃣ Egg capacity is limited and every time the hatchery fills up eggs are wasted until you unlock the rarity upgrade. Also helps you get two achievements with good rewards requiring egg capacity.
4️⃣ Allows you to connect to lab bonuses from slightly farther away which can reduce the number of characters needed in the lab. Note that the max distance between characters, which is called line width, doesn't increase.
5️⃣ Improves kills per hour in W4 but since you likely won't be pushing W4 portals for long this is relatively low priority.
6️⃣ Max level spice spillage triggers every time. They are lower priority since it takes a lot of star talent points and is likely to trigger several times in a row when checking multiple characters.
7️⃣ 3 crystal mobs per day is very little.
Unlocks the recipes for troll armor giving all stat% and the base for all further armor upgrades. It is great but require plenty of Nullo Salt. Don't buy it if you can't craft them.

[molten vapor]

so close yet so far

[hard mango]

i dont understand the 3d printer

[empty mulch]

why no card drop?

[white path]

U take a sample with a star talent and u can print what u sample

[hard mango]

how do i get a sample tho

oh its an attack

that is my bad thanks tho

wait how do i use the attack tho i click it and it does nothing

i wanna 3d print mushroom caps for my refinery

[white path]

U need to go to a map with mobs in it or when ur skilling

[hard mango]

makes sense

[hybrid sleet]

I haven’t refreshed my 3d printers in so long I can probably double my production but god it’s a chore

[hard mango]

oh i need to use my shaman

[dry bridge]

[hard mango]

family

[dry bridge]

had to craft hourglass eyes, colo is literally impossible with no cleave on jman

[hard mango]

how do i unlock more slots?

my main happens to not be my first slot

[dry bridge]

3d printer?

[hard mango]

yeah

[dry bridge]

from construction table, everytime you build/upgrade 3d again

[hard mango]

k

[dry bridge]

it'll unlock next character slot

[hard mango]

thanks

it works

[lone swan]

for the first quest in world 3 do i need to wait 24 hours?

[visual star]

does drop chance help w cards?

[hybrid sleet]

Can you do rift 2 afk?

[spare snow]

Does the no bubble left behind works if i put my characters in lab a few mins before daily reset?

[sleek stone]

cards drop chance help

[visual star]

whose better to farm cards with? es or dk?

[sleek stone]

es

[visual star]

alr TY!

[sleek stone]

more kills more cards

also upgrade stamp for card drop chance if you have

[white path]

it actually does

[visual star]

ohhh

so with the new vault upgrade making drop chance cards passive, i should run full drop chance to go crazy w the cards

[dry bridge]

is it feasible to open eqinox in early/mid w4? how big are the portal requirements? my afk only shows around 4k kills but on active portal count went down roughly 16-20k in an hour in w4

[dusty harness]

you can unlock it early if you want

[dry bridge]

but it will be kind of a wasted time if portal kill requirements are too big

currently i have everyone except maestro and dk jailed in lab for 3d printing, just grabbed maestro today and leveled all his skillings above everyone else

[hybrid sleet]

Equinox is kind or useless tho isn’t it when you unlock it

Like you can’t do anything with it

[dry bridge]

i mean cant i farm really fast skilling exp there?

[hybrid sleet]

The efficiency requirements are lowkey bonkers for when you unlock it

[dry bridge]

oh, nvm then i'll keep pushing w4

[dusty harness]

oh yeah equinox is kinda not worth it til late w5

[dry bridge]

i think i should just stop being lazy and get anvil tab 3, i am at flying worms which is i believe like half way in w4 and still dont have tab 3 anvil

[dusty harness]

[untold geyser]

Mystic pack does not level food starting with the lowest, it seems to be pretty random of the stuff you have unlocked.

Since it just leveled my pie thing 2 levels and it was not the lowest of the ones I had unlocked. Still no idea what it did yesterday though.

[radiant nebula]

should i try and demntia every plate as ive been or priotitize one or multiple, i have all kitchens and ruffly 4 quite high. high enouch for instnat cook for like pnacake

[hard mango]

do i ever get a 3rd ability page?

for attacks?

[dusty harness]

you mean talents?

[hard mango]

yeah

a 3rd page for things like my fireball or other things

[dusty harness]

whats your class

[hard mango]

mage rn

im sorcerer

[dusty harness]

theres a dude in w2 that gives you subclass

[hard mango]

ye ik

[dusty harness]

hes in the crabcake map

[hard mango]

gone to him 5 times so far

[dusty harness]

in w4 genie map you can get an elite class

[hard mango]

ye but do i ever get a 3rd page for talents/abilities?

[dusty harness]

you mean in the attack bar?

[hard mango]

yeah

[dusty harness]

press the up and down arrow

[hard mango]

i only got 2 pages rn

[dusty harness]

isnt the default 3?

[hard mango]

its 2 for me

[hybrid sleet]

It’s 3

[hard mango]

so do i unlock a 3rd later in world 4 or sum?

[hybrid sleet]

No its 3 from the start afaik

You sure you’re not missclicking

[hard mango]

im sure

and no matter how much i click theres no 3rd

im early world 3

[hybrid sleet]

That’s just weird, idk what to tell you I’ve had 3 since w1 as far as I can remember

[hard mango]

how long have you played the game for?

[hybrid sleet]

Couple weeks up to a month probably

[hard mango]

maybe an update a while ago made it 2

huh weird i used to play a yearish ago and i remember only 2

came back and made a new account recently

[hybrid sleet]

Is it 2 on all your characters ?

[hard mango]

rediscovered the game when i was giving a computer to my sister

[dusty harness]

it was 3 for as long as i remember

[hard mango]

pretty sure my first slot only has 2 too

[ancient arch]

is this the special vday reward for 500

[vast spire]

what is this?

[timid spruce]

!lab

[dusty harness]

theres 3 different one iirc

[hard mango]

found mini sans

[formal flume]

making sure: no printing Souls?

[hard mango]

you can print souls????

[hybrid sleet]

Nah

[hard mango]

oh

[radiant nebula]

thers def 3

[hard mango]

you sure you dont need ur 3rd class?

[dusty harness]

its the crystal countdown talent of maestro

[hard mango]

idk what they called

but like elemental sorcerer blood berserker or seigebreaker

i only have 2 slots

or 2 attack pages

[formal flume]

you can only print stuff you harvest, but i wanted to make sure that it wasnt like, "print while playing the TD" or something

[hard mango]

ah

[ancient arch]

woof...

killed my lab and missed my bubbles and stuff too

[hard mango]

i had 2 slots doing nothing for 2 days

(they have now done nothing for about 5 days)

[hybrid sparrow]

does anybody have any resources or advice for early w4?

[dusty harness]

i once left my siege breaker in w1 town for 130 days

[ancient arch]

get everyone to elite with candies and then stick them in lab

[hybrid sparrow]

does sticking units in the lab prevent them from being used?

[dusty harness]

thats why its called lab jail

[lost compass]

How do VIP books work? I click checkout and what happens? Should it drop a book?

[hybrid sparrow]

Yep, you should have a book in ur invent

as long as you had 5 checkouts available for it

[radiant nebula]

i had 2 doing nothing for 500+days

[lost compass]

I have them unlocked already and I'm trying to upgrade them but I don't get a new book

[hybrid sparrow]

sorry no clue, i havent unlocked both

If you have one of every elite class and maestro what do you make next?

[exotic swallow]

Give me doot, ty

[pastel portal]

https://i.imgur.com/OQopMYK.png is this still accurate?

[lone swan]

do i need to wait 24h for the first w3 quest?

[lethal nymph]

How do you get the new eggs?

[exotic swallow]

if it tells u then yes

exactly that time

[buoyant slate]

idk if its true or not, but i recommend putting your best skill at first slots, it will probably get prioritie over others skills

[cold wraith]

they go by order so yea

[dry bridge]

any reason why the guide has this in combat talents and not in skilling?

i mean i am swapping to skilling preset while claiming because i dont have maxed eye on combat preset yet

[dire lotus]

Whats the best way to do Royal Worm's first quest "Let the tails hit the floor"
i am trying to do it with my ES, and its at 1520/1540, idk which spaces i am missing

[lone swan]

how can i increase my dmg in world 3? i cant even 3 shot anything yet

[dry bridge]

no clue what that is but lets say i have it on combat preset, this wouldnt work then right? or does this matter only when setting the traps up

[cold wraith]

vault shouldve made everything very easy

[dry bridge]

ye vault is letting me even oneshot most things in w4

[lone swan]

yeah makes a huge difference but still cant kill w3 mobs easy

[dry bridge]

and not die in w4 with full bronze gear

i assume its towards the end?

[cold wraith]

that huge difference not letting you one shot means youre neglecting other parts

have you done clickers?

[dry bridge]

its already pretty slow with my building rate, barely started making golden cogs so

i am still pretty early

[cold wraith]

it honestly stays slow till summoning

[dry bridge]

well...

[lone swan]

yeah a decent amount

[dry bridge]

[dry bridge]

make sure you get all 10 megafeathers + at least 3-4 resets after 10th feather on owl

[lone swan]

i do like 14 to 40k dmg

[dry bridge]

its fairly simple but requires couple hours sitting there and holding left click

[lone swan]

what are megafeathers

[cold wraith]

ok you did not do enough of clickers then

[lone swan]

clearly

[timid spruce]

10 megafeathers?!!

[lone swan]

what point do i unlock it

[cold wraith]

i had like 20m build speed before the summoning bonus then it just started getting faster and im at 7.5B rn

[dry bridge]

w1

[lone swan]

i mean inside the clicker

[cold wraith]

its the last upgrade in owl and everytime you reset it gives account wide bonuses

i know that 26 total is possible (or 16 fractal) but im not so sure about 27

[dry bridge]

i stopped doing it after getting 4th rainbow (10th) feather but you can keep it going for quite a bit until it slows down much later on

[dry bridge]

if you check bottom, you can see what buffs i am getting even with only 4 resets

[cold wraith]

you can most definintely do more clickers

that will give you more dmg also do the w2 clicker for bonuses

make sure you check the guide for roo in w2 pins

[shut hull]

will these basteurds give me sufficient personal damage

[dry bridge]

a lot of dmg and all stats as you can see which helps dmg quite a bit and really helpful for accuracy also which you will have a lot of problems with

[lone swan]

how do i even do more clickers i just wait a day reset then keep doing that

[cold wraith]

it does not take a day

if you sit for a few hours and keep on upgrading you can crank out a decent bit of resets/megafeathers

[lone swan]

yeah probably not

[cold wraith]

its really slow at the start but once you start building up mf bonuses it gets faster

[lone swan]

shiny feathers are goooodd

should i still reset when i have enough

[dry bridge]

for owl, just sit there and keep upgrading cheapest thing you see until you can afford the reset, keep doing it until you see megafeather reset or can afford bonuses of orion

[cold wraith]

cap

[dry bridge]

its kinda boring, sitting there for couple hours but helps immensely

[lone swan]

alright ig ill do that ty

[cold wraith]

the way you phrased it makes it sound like you went from 0 to mf 18 in 1 hr

[dry bridge]

thats not how roo works, what?

[cold wraith]

really

i dont remember it being that fast but ill trust

[dry bridge]

i mean, yeah mf18 takes 2.5 which i assume this sheet is before vault so 1 hour for mf18 is understandable but as you can see it scales way too much after couple more mf resets

[dry bridge]

sheet says 2.5 hours but before vault no?

[cold wraith]

ah

[dry bridge]

thats not the point, check screenshot after 18 it starts scaling really high

[cold wraith]

i play on mac but mobile version so i agree it is kinda fast

[shut hull]

help me

[dry bridge]

how did you even stomach up to 21, i got extremely bored at 15 and stopped

[shut hull]

nvm I figured out to wait until I'm done with personal dmg, then delete until I get voidinator

[echo radish]

Holy shit ur still alive

[shut hull]

wdym I'm still alive

[echo radish]

Ngl it feels like I haven't seen you since the creation of times

[shut hull]

last time we met was 6 days ago

[full urchin]

Fill up your inventory with something, so that tails dont get picked up, then collect coins.
For some reason too many coin drops prevent more tails from dropping or being counted, one of the 2

[ancient arch]

what determines what ores auto arm puts in forge

is it just whatever you put in to start it will refill

[echo radish]

I must have not recognised u then or sum

[dry bridge]

@cold wraithdo you have any early game really important 3d samples in mind? outside of bloach and bleach log for alchemy

its a pain to constantly swap/update samples

[dire lotus]

I see, thanks!

[lone swan]

for dmg in the vault is the first upgrade the only way to increase dmg

[red compass]

no

[pastel heart]

stuff for refinery

[dry bridge]

already got refinery perma looped

i was asking in general like what else i might need for alchemy or important craft etc

middle of w4 progression wise atm

[dry bridge]

these + any talent point so you can grab more dmg from talents

if you dont have some of these just upgrade cheapest upgrade you have with more coin, accuracy and defense upgrades prioritized till you unlock more of the vault

[lone swan]

is it worth it to go out of my way to get like the stickbug stat up

[dry bridge]

if you havent killed any or if its % is really low to the point of not being worth then dont

if its really cheap compared to your other important upgrades sure

as you unlock rest of the vault based on your total upgrade amount

[lone swan]

i maxed a bunch of the cheaper upgrades already

im doing like 20k to 58k dmg which is a slight improvement from before

[dry bridge]

so lets say vault isnt your problem, how is your gear and alchemy and where are you in w3

[lone swan]

very start in w3 i got the amarok armor with the "platinum sword" and alchemy kinda sucks cause i need the water thing for other stuff rn

[dry bridge]

i have no clue what platinum sword is but amarok armor should be fine, have you used world 3 store stones on every piece?

[lone swan]

enforced slasher i forgot name so i just said that and sadly i used world 2 since i didnt know you couldnt get rid of the stones once placed

[dry bridge]

tbh i cant think of anything else to help with your dmg that early, its probably mainly owl clicker in world 1 and possibly talent problem but i doubt it

if you can do it with all character you could also try farming 1st zone of w3 with all of your characters for big coin farm to push vault for more dmg/coin drop upgrades

[lone swan]

alright tysm for the help though

[leaden isle]

Copper ore, Copper ore turns into mining effic, which in turns means bigger sample size, its also required for your refinery and a dozen other things

[torn tree]

1M on cooking speed poggers

[dry bridge]

was there any other mat scaling talent like that? dmg included

[leaden isle]

oak logs, frogs, theres a few

[dry bridge]

if you remember them, otherwise i'll just click through all characters to check each

[leaden isle]

Dementia ore is also a very important one for the larry bubble

[dry bridge]

on that note is it worth to double bloach for alchemy push or should i put a different fish/spore for my bb

[leaden isle]

hermitcans

[leaden isle]

Hermitcans, they turn into the multi fish bubble, meaning more fishing gains

[dry bridge]

swapped 1 bloach to hermit

[dry bridge]

no bloach at all? dont i want to push shaquracy early at all?

[leaden isle]

not really needed since the vault is overpowered 😛

[dry bridge]

how much do i need till the end of w4 roughly?

[dry bridge]

its dk so i need x1.5 as well... hmm

is there a check list for reaching max sample rate? (to see how much i can do get to rn)

[whole panther]

I think griffybit had it included in one of his videos I saw recently

[urban yacht]

How u get double print

[urban yacht]

Ah

[dry bridge]

one of the highest prio bonuses to buy even as f2p with the gems you get by playing

together with anvil bonus

[vagrant imp]

anyone got a combo faster than this for wave 100 challenge?

stuck at 61 seconds

[lavish hornet]

Fastest way to gain worship XP on vm?

[red compass]

best thing to get

[lavish hornet]

Gotta catch up my es, Made a mistake 😢

[red compass]

get 1st td map high af and j worship

[lavish hornet]

Ohh

First TD map increases worship gain?

[red compass]

well its ez af to get far early and it gives solid xp early on. idk im not v far in td bc i rly dont fw td lol

[royal nexus]

what first, rift or finish w4?

[royal dove]

Just got a t16 ribbon anyone know what I should use it on?

[red compass]

push worlds

[red compass]

heard ppl use it on cauliflower? prolly wtv u need most. imo cookin speed seems best tho for overall progress

esp with vault buffs to cook speed

[royal dove]

I currently have a t5 on corndog and t6 on cabbage

[timid spruce]

!merit4

[candid scarab]

1️⃣ Buy one point of spice spillage. This gives you up to a 20% chance to claim all your spices when claiming over an hour of afk gains. Since spices generate more slowly the more you have produced since last claim this will improve spice production.
2️⃣ Having more bubbles get upgraded each day will help a lot, especially when combined with buffs giving more levels per bubble. Only buy this if you can reach the No Bubble Left Behind node in the lab.
3️⃣ Egg capacity is limited and every time the hatchery fills up eggs are wasted until you unlock the rarity upgrade. Also helps you get two achievements with good rewards requiring egg capacity.
4️⃣ Allows you to connect to lab bonuses from slightly farther away which can reduce the number of characters needed in the lab. Note that the max distance between characters, which is called line width, doesn't increase.
5️⃣ Improves kills per hour in W4 but since you likely won't be pushing W4 portals for long this is relatively low priority.
6️⃣ Max level spice spillage triggers every time. They are lower priority since it takes a lot of star talent points and is likely to trigger several times in a row when checking multiple characters.
7️⃣ 3 crystal mobs per day is very little.
Unlocks the recipes for troll armor giving all stat% and the base for all further armor upgrades. It is great but require plenty of Nullo Salt. Don't buy it if you can't craft them.

[royal nexus]

drone vs eagle eye?

[candid harness]

its the same since drone are based on the eagle eye talent

[red compass]

same

[ancient arch]

you should buy another kitchen

[lone swan]

what are the best gem upgrades? i got like 400 gems

500*

[ancient arch]

just grabbed this from wave 30 on waka

[red compass]

what world u at

[ancient arch]

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/e/2PACX-1vSCepYAs6sNDP4iq6MJNAG1pvFXzfC_3IQ7ttt5vfEEKAgQhIk4cQqnLRyeH6UyqDSuP4R-6WQeDmmP/pubhtml#

[lone swan]

3

[red compass]

crystal 3d printer

[ancient arch]

golden hammer if you haven't yet, otherwise save for 3d printer double

[worldly oxide]

how to start using 3d printer?

[lone swan]

alright ill save then

[red compass]

do hagendaz quest

[candid harness]

do ice cream quest until u get the book

[worldly oxide]

ohh ty ty

[lone swan]

what are good thing to use the 3d printer for? i feel like 29 pincer arms an hour isnt great

[dense egret]

Refinery mats

[red compass]

refinery mats

[dense egret]

Jinx

[red compass]

u wanna lvl up ur refinery as much as possible

[red compass]

i literally dont give a fuck

jk yo

[dense egret]

lol

[lone swan]

so like spore caps and stuff that are used for refinery

[dense egret]

Ye

[red compass]

im playin, idc still but im playin

[lone swan]

also why did my spore caps go from taking like 10 to 50

[dense egret]

It's fine

[dense egret]

What exactly are you saying?

[red compass]

prolly refinery cost?

[cedar estuary]

how does one finish this task?

[red compass]

td

[dense egret]

It doesn't go from 10 to 50 instantly tho it's goes up like 10 at a time in the first levels

[red compass]

idk

[lone swan]

the price went up ig

for refinery

[dense egret]

You probably ranked up the salt

[red compass]

yea

[lone swan]

oh u mean the extra slot thing

[dense egret]

Bro just send a screenshot your msgs make no sense

[lone swan]

its hard to explainn

[dense egret]

That's why you should send a screenshot

[white lintel]

When you rank up it costs more but produces it faster

[red compass]

same speed but produces more

[white lintel]

If you produce more at once your rate is increasing

[stone inlet]

It's not producing faster. It's producing more at a time

It's not the same

[red compass]

faster =/= quantity. u do get more but it isnt "faster"

[stone inlet]

You still have to wait the same amount of time per cycle. It's not faster you're just producing more

[white lintel]

If you take 1 big step per second it’s the same as taking 1 step every half second

It’s just semantics it doesn’t matter

[red compass]

vocabulary matters. words have specific meaning for a reason. it isnt an equivalent. ur idea is right but isnt correctly said, thats all

[gaunt yarrow]

Until the cap is maxed right?

[stone inlet]

You're not understanding though. Sayings it's "faster" would mean you get it quicker. It still takes the same time. You can't change the metric to every half second. It's the same time no matter what you do. Ranking up will not make that time quicker. Only things like stamps and lab can do that. Refinery rank upgrades only boost the produced amount not speed.

I see what you're saying but it's not true in this situation

[west pilot]

One done but idk if i'm ready for next ones (might end up sleeping all day if i do lmao)

TD gameplay

[white lintel]

Ranking up literally makes my next rank up quicker

[stone inlet]

What is this referring to? The cap to refine rank?

[white lintel]

Yes

[red compass]

its slower, ur rate is higher but amt needed is even higher

[stone inlet]

Again, you're not producing it faster, you're producing more of it. Yes it's quicker to get your next rank up but not because the speed is faster but because you gain more per cycle

[white lintel]

Not yes to you abyss, the guy that xed me

[gaunt yarrow]

My refinery cap is 1 million red salt, so it does get faster at a certain point

[red compass]

that would make no sense. why would lava make scaling inverse? that is flat out nonsense

[torpid ibex]

Is the rose cape from the 500th random?

[stone inlet]

The speed per cycle doesn't increase from refinery rank ups.

[west pilot]

With each rank

[white lintel]

I wasn’t referring to cycle speed, I was referring to salt rate

[dense pine]

so what yall are saying is, ranks ups let you produce more red salt faster?

[red compass]

u get more salts, at same speed

[dense pine]

...so..you get more red salt faster

[stone inlet]

You originally said "it produces it faster" which isn't true. The speed it produces is the same aka cycle speed. You produce more per cycle though which makes it faster.

[gaunt yarrow]

Rank ups make you produce red salts faster, but every rank up has diminishing returns

[red compass]

ur rate is better but its same increments

[west pilot]

But you get them faster

Bruh

[dense pine]

the speed at which you gain x ammount of salts is faster, whatever whatever

[gaunt yarrow]

That's just semantics tho

[west pilot]

In 1hr lets say you get 50 and on rank up you get 100 in 1hr

That's faster

[red compass]

rate =/= speed

[stone inlet]

You have to wait 15m at base value no matter what. You gain more per cycle but you aren't speeding up the cycle.

[gaunt yarrow]

No one is talking about cycle speed specifically. You get more red salts faster

[red compass]

u get more salts.

is it that hard to understand?

[west pilot]

Thus yo get them faster

[stone inlet]

Have you read at all? That's literally what I've been saying this whole time and you both keep saying I'm wrong

[white lintel]

Faster is means speed and rate, if I wanted to say cycle time I would’ve

[west pilot]

Bro is not hard omg

[red compass]

no u do not. rate =/= speed. the cycle rate is the fkin same. u get more salts per cycle thats it

[west pilot]

Who tf is saying speed bro

[white lintel]

So your salt rate is faster

[red compass]

faster is speed????? u said that?????

[stone inlet]

Is it quicker to reach next rank up? Yes, you're producing more per cycle so ofc it's "faster" but you aren't producing cycles faster. Why can't you agree with that?

[gaunt yarrow]

No you've not got that point across at all.

Saying "no you're wrong" when someone is right, arguing semantics is just counterproductive xd

[red compass]

ye alr nvm im not talkin thru this shit

[dense pine]

💀 yall cant be serious, its not even that deep

[west pilot]

In 1hr i get 500, with rank i get 1000

That's faster gains

You blind if can't see that

[white lintel]

Embrace the absurdity, it makes it more fun

[west pilot]

Nobody is saying cycles are faster

[gaunt yarrow]

Everyone was right, but people are making it more complicated than it has to be xd

[west pilot]

Just saying next rank up gets faster with each cycle, as you produce more each time

[white lintel]

Like I said, semantics

[stone inlet]

I've been giving proper explanations wdym? I've given you numbers. You're the only one saying "no you're wrong".

[red compass]

no needa bother, its hard to win an argument against a smart guy, but its impossibe to win an argument against a moron

[west pilot]

I mean. Idleon player

[stone inlet]

Literally this. It's this simple

[west pilot]

Never said it different

[warm valve]

guys, how do I increase the size of the 3d printer because my print is only small?

[west pilot]

You just messing around with the meanings you want to assign

[west pilot]

Construction

[red compass]

prayers

[white lintel]

Royal sampler from wave 21 acorn assault

[white lintel]

Slots yes but sample % no

[gaunt yarrow]

More efficiency, more prowess, prayers, more sample % with stamps, more damage, more multikill, alchemy, alchemy, alchemy, alchemy

[dusty harness]

royal sampler, alch bubble, up star talent

[stone inlet]

Sample size from prayers a stamps and certain character bonuses. Lab can help too. Focus stamps and high level tools and skills. Spec into the right stats to boost production and make sure you're using the right class for the job. Don't forget food, star signs too!

[dense pine]

salt lick

[west pilot]

💀

[stone inlet]

Cards are important too!

[gaunt yarrow]

Alchemy, alchemy, alchemy

Also more alchemy

[white lintel]

You know what, sure

[gaunt yarrow]

And you can never go wrong with more alchemy

[dusty harness]

[raw inlet]

Alchemy is the only reason people are endgame

[dense pine]

you can always go wrong with alchemy, we call that leveling anvil point price

[white lintel]

That’s not true but okay

[dense pine]

[raw inlet]

Bubble de-leveling when

I want anvil point price outta here

[dense pine]

its too late.

anyway lvling anvil point price as of now might kinda be worth it because of the money scaling from bubbles

[red compass]

would b impossible to implement

[gaunt yarrow]

Right, as long as you're not hourly clicking anvil point price, you're probably improving prints in some way either directly or indirectly

[warm valve]

thanks to all of you guys for the info

[stone inlet]

I think people fail to understand how op alchemy is. From talent points to dmg to raw stats to printing and coin boosts quicker attack speed better afk gain rates for sampling. Alchemy is definitely the strongest buff I'm the game. Nothing is stronger than alchemy

[dense pine]

up to lvl 100 ofc

[raw inlet]

Wait doesn't the new vault increase money based on each bubble level
Or is it total

[dense pine]

each, up to 100 per bubble

[raw inlet]

Ok cool it's finally somewhat useful

[dusty harness]

alchemy my beloved

[white lintel]

Nothing island 🗿

[dense pine]

im still gonna keep it at lvl 1 tho.

[true hamlet]

I think people fail to realise how strong the cauldron is.. it's ability for it to fit an infinite number of bits per brew

[white lintel]

Bits?

[true hamlet]

Bits

[sleek stone]

do i need crystal farm chance to get dice obols?

[true hamlet]

Why not

[white lintel]

Bits as in gaming bits?

But

How does it store infinite gaming bits

[true hamlet]

And generally too

[sleek stone]

been doing it without shrine that give crystal but its low to get

where do you check crystal chance?

[white lintel]

IT

[raw inlet]

Almost to vman, just a few more diamond skulls

[white lintel]

Plat*

[true hamlet]

Cost scales infinitely for those bubbles right? Means it can hold infinite in 1 brew

[white lintel]

Ah, okay, well sure that makes sense, i just never think about bubbles being real anymore like brewing being an actual action to make something when you upgrade bubbles

[true hamlet]

Ah k

[hollow vine]

can someone tell me where the refinery chart is

[cerulean axle]

I am wanting to increase my water droplet rate asap. If I stick my Bubo on the water droplet cauldren and active farm with Cranium Cooking, well it increase the amount of droplets I get (so I can increase the rate)?

[astral lava]

#midgame-chat-w3🧊w4🔮 message

[astral lava]

U don't need to assign bubo to that liquid for it to refill

But if u assigned characters for it, it will refill faster

[cerulean axle]

Ya, I stuck a few guys on there. Just wondering if Cranium Cooking would also help. I am not sure what it means when it says "alchemy progression".

[astral lava]

Bubo's CCing affect anything that have brewing speed or refilling speed, other than Sigils if u unlocked it

[pseudo moss]

You can always use the pay2win tab to increase droplet rate ...so farm those coins if you want fast rate asap

[cerulean axle]

That's good to know. Do you know of any good maps where I can farm efficiently with Bubo?

P2W tab is all maxed out

[cedar estuary]

how does one truly know when to upgrade their characters in the lab?

[astral lava]

It's the time progression u have got from the last CC u did

[raw inlet]

Once you

[pseudo moss]

Depends on your damage ..what is your damage on bubo?

[obtuse python]

I’m clicking my ship why won’t a captain go in so I can move the boat

[astral lava]

It's not from the map

U need to buy a captian

[obtuse python]

Where from?

[raw inlet]

You have to do it on the not-menu
You click the boat on the water at the docks then click a captain

[obtuse python]

K

[astral lava]

Close that map

[pseudo moss]

You get out of this menu ..walk to the right side of the map...there is a buy captain section .buy it..click the boat..and enter this menu after wards to assign an island to collect loot

[split cypress]

guys my set is lustre, should i continue to diabolical set or straight to troll set?

[cerulean axle]

I can one shot everything up to world 4 elite map

[astral lava]

Straight to troll

[pseudo moss]

Then flombiege mob map is good i think...money and mob wise

[astral lava]

U don't need lustre to craft troll set anyway

[split cypress]

okay

[cerulean axle]

I don't have that unlocked 😦 I got my bubo up to map 4 of World 4 and made him do other shit

[split cypress]

thank you

[pseudo moss]

Troll

[astral lava]

But don't trash lustre after it, just craft diablo set for slabs

But troll is better than diablo

[split cypress]

got it

also how do i increase fishing gains

[pseudo moss]

Oh then focus on w3 map with high mobs in high density ..like those elephant maps ..forgot the name ..or the snakes map

[astral lava]

Fishing efficiency, afk gain, fishing pow, STR...

?wiki Fishing Check here

[paper tusk]

https://idleon.wiki/wiki/Fishing Check here

[obtuse python]

How?!

[split cypress]

oh

didnt know you could do that

thanks

[astral lava]

Open the that info in the middle of the screen

It shows u how many points u gain

[astral lava]

U gain 1 per hour for now

Now open the info that shows u ur afk gain

[astral lava]

U gain 1 exp per hour

That's it

[pseudo moss]

Anything that gives fish eff, fish away gains, strength.....that includes cards,post office , alchemy, stamps,statues, orion, roo, prayers,etc....and higher tools..(assuming your highest as w4)

[astral lava]

Now what do u not understand

[astral lava]

When u have points to purchase these, depending on the chance it's shown u have that chance to unlock the next divinity

[split cypress]

what is the normal fish per hour for players that made to 4w?

[obtuse python]

So I just afk here?

[obtuse python]

I was on 1250 but I neglected the skill

[astral lava]

Nothing from cards affect divinity gain fyi

[obtuse python]

nooooooo

[pseudo moss]

Varies from person to person...some people are whales...some people are f2p.... don't bother about that stuff and increase everything slowly...

[astral lava]

Things that affect divinity is pretty limited

[astral lava]

Not even base stats affect it

[pseudo moss]

Only thing that increases divinity is if you pray to LAVA

[split cypress]

[astral lava]

To see what affects divinity open it's wiki

[obtuse python]

Should I put Wis on my weapon or strength

[pseudo moss]

Huh?....depends on the character u r playing...if you are upgrading on a warrior class...it will automatically apply STR...if mage..then WIS

[obtuse python]

Warrior, but I need wisdom

[pseudo moss]

🫠wut

[obtuse python]

So I can do it with my mages to get wis on it

[astral lava]

Then let ur mage do the amplifying

[pseudo moss]

😮‍💨🤌

[mint rivet]

Hello everyone

👋🏿

[sleek stone]

Where do you farm cookie?

[mint rivet]

is the cash a multi?

[mint rivet]

midnight cookie?

[sleek stone]

Yeah

[sleek stone]

Dunno either

[mint rivet]

well first off, efaunt

[sleek stone]

Other things?

[exotic swallow]

Prob not, idk

[mint rivet]

then snelbies

[merry halo]

How can i get more ore per hour. i get 400 purple ore in hour

[sleek stone]

Ahh okay

[mint rivet]

actually no not only snelbies

[exotic swallow]

By getting better

[mint rivet]

if you look at w2 cards, mobs have a rare bag drop

[merry halo]

Very good info

[sleek stone]

Oh yeah

[mint rivet]

in that rare bag drop there usually is midnight cookie

[mint rivet]

alchemy

[sleek stone]

Okay thank you

[mint rivet]

np

[exotic swallow]

Yeah just get better to mine more

[mint rivet]

i hope i get all sailing lantern artifacts sov by the end of this week

NO WAY!

2 sovs BACK to back, literally

one immediately after another, next chest

[astral lava]

It shall be

[north atlas]

What should be my 8th character? Got one of every class so far

[pliant wigeon]

QUestion about shrine do it need to be on the same map or jsut World

[north atlas]

its on the map you place them

[bronze ferry]

later you will unlock bonus which let you have the bonus whole world

[pliant wigeon]

ok thanks

[candid harness]

Dk

[shadow lark]

Including secret?

[cedar estuary]

btw whats up with the whole detodated rams topic that people used to talk about?

[north atlas]

yeah

[shadow lark]

Yeah Dk

[north atlas]

ok thanks 💚

[candid harness]

?

[mint rivet]

gonna take a while, how do I even get magic bean efficiently?

[zenith hare]

e

[zenith hare]

by doing bean trades more

the farming guide really helps.

[mint rivet]

how often

[mint rivet]

the pear one?

[zenith hare]

as soon as you get every crop you can get in a feasable amount of time

[mint rivet]

and if I can't what do I do?

[zenith hare]

you can

unless you cant buy the item in the shop for some reason

[mint rivet]

every crop from all seeds to an amount of 200?

or just unlocking all then doing a trade

rn am going with this setup

[craggy sail]

hello, i have doot.. and ive been sitting at the lab for the longest time (of course I am still gaining divinity exp). now my line has reached all the nodes in the lab.. should i switch my divinity style to gain divinity points now? average level of my divinity as of now is 45.. if i switch divinity style is which one should i pick?

[obtuse python]

Do I need to remake my armour with W5 stones? I have enough anyways

[craggy sail]

w5 i am still the amarok with w4 stone

[obtuse python]

What’s your stats?

[mint rivet]

if you have doot, keep staying in lab (if you have goharut) until u unlock more gods

and if u wanna quit the lab for a bit, switc to tranqi style

[zenith hare]

thats up to you how far into it

[craggy sail]

ok i will stay in lab, but which style should i use to unlock more gods?

[zenith hare]

remake it into w5 amarok

[mint rivet]

oh I thought i needed 200 for some kindof bonus

[mint rivet]

the one that gives points

[zenith hare]

reminder: needs divinity level 2 to trigger on everyone

[craggy sail]

ok thanks!

[mint rivet]

i haven't done divinity in a year

oh i forgot to do vman speedrun yesterday, @zenith hare got some sort of guide on where and when to go?

[zenith hare]

in tips and tricks there is one iirc

[mint rivet]

which one

[zenith hare]

well the 85 one is a late game one

[obtuse python]

U not world 6?!

[mint rivet]

both got endgame tags

[zenith hare]

yes and one of them is the route in detail

for why

if you cant do any extra mob in it, skip it

[mint rivet]

alr I shall attempt

[craggy sail]

i am in W6.. but I have question for lab and so i asked here

[zenith hare]

no its fine to ask here

they just thought youd know alr as you are w6

[zenith hare]

assumptions must be made to some extent

otherwise we'd sound like dicks to every new person chatting here~

[obtuse python]

I read that like you were still in w5 mb

[craggy sail]

oh because he said using w5 stone.. so my assumption is that he is currently on w5.. and I am just sharing what I did when I was in W5..

[mint rivet]

brb gotta lock in

[zenith hare]

yeah i thoght w5 too

but yeah: do remake amarok into ur best worlds gear, and if its w6. remake it as much times as needed to get 100% stones

[west pilot]

i gotta do more TD today but i don't

[obtuse python]

Wb dementia

[craggy sail]

is there a guide specific to voidwalker? because mine is not very good with skilling 😦

[west pilot]

vman is not a skiller

it's for account wide buffs

the class itself is made to have harder time skilling

[craggy sail]

but how does the "rght ha dof action" work Vman needs to have a high level skill no?

[west pilot]

yeah

[craggy sail]

so should i just farm lets say the lowest ore to get exp?

[west pilot]

but having higher lvl doesn't mean he is not going to take longer time to lvl than other chars

[west pilot]

?

why would you do that

check highest ore you can do, and if you can't reach the 100% maybe check the ones before and compare exp

[craggy sail]

because i am not sure whats the best way to level up my skill.. well i can see void ore gives the most exp per hour.. i guess i should stay here.. but my understanding is correct right.. in order to get the bonus of right hand my vman needs to have a higher level of the certain skill

[west pilot]

yeah

maybe you could check equinox

[raw inlet]

Just got miasma, should I change to forager/targetter/miasma or stick to 3 targetters

[west pilot]

should be your best exp (if you can mine it) before godshard

[zenith hare]

well miasma multiplies targeter by 4

[west pilot]

3 target is hot garbo

[zenith hare]

which makes it act like 4 targeters

and also allows fleeter too

[raw inlet]

oh so fleeter/miasma/targetter

[craggy sail]

@west pilot just a question, should i stop skilling my other characters until my VMAN has the highest level?

[raw inlet]

wait, is looter any good?

[mint rivet]

well I sold, accidentaly tp'd to dungeons in the mid of the run, at least still 19 portals better

[west pilot]

rip

[mint rivet]

at least next run will be done with more points

[wild urchin]

Should i rush w3 or take it slow and actually gear up a bit?

[mint rivet]

gear up

[west pilot]

i would say rush is more beneficial

[wild urchin]

I already got a lot of gear tho

Viking helm the sword

[jaunty kernel]

guys what is the best gem shop boost purchase for w4?

[zenith hare]

soon

[mint rivet]

gear up

[zenith hare]

1 kitchen is amazing, maybe get a soup lab or two to expidite the lab grind

[mint rivet]

is that 6E24?

[jaunty kernel]

ty

[wild urchin]

On all my players???

Oh hell nah that will take me a week or sum bro

[zenith hare]

6e22 iirc

[west pilot]

nah

[wild urchin]

https://tenor.com/view/plankton-plankton-meme-gif-15640350090336605258

[zenith hare]

E24 is when it starts showing E

[west pilot]

bro is tripping

[wild urchin]

My main barbarian is already geared up but i need to fish

[west pilot]

i would say pushing is better, since you get more bonuses to farm the other things easier

now even better with vault

[wild urchin]

Should i start grinding for anvil tab 3 tho?

[minor crater]

how do I complete this?

[zenith hare]

kill all mobs on the right side

[dull jewel]

Anyone have any tips on how to get more refining salts it's always my bottleneck

[fluid galleon]

how much defence do I need to beat w3 boss?

[sleek stone]

how do you check crystal chance in IT?

been searching for it didnt came across

[raw inlet]

Does the flag only use plunder points when it spawns mobs?

[dry orbit]

I just got a luckier lad drop on my maestro, will that count towards the equinox task even though I havent unlocked it yet? idk how the mirror works ive not been there

[raw inlet]

what task

[obtuse python]

Send me a pic of ur stats

[dry orbit]

its a dream cloud, 17 on the wiki "get a lucky lad trophy drop on a beginner type character"

[raw inlet]

honestly idk
It probably wont since it specifically said a drop but idk how lava coded the dreams, so maybe it counts who knows
guess ur gonna have to find out lol

[dry orbit]

Thats sorta what I thought but yeah I guess it might be a pleasant surprise if it does! just a shame I cant quite rub that in my friends face just yet as well beyond just having the drop

thank you!

[sleek pollen]

I reckon if you go in the equinox, for example after getting that lucky lad even without the dream, it'll count and save it for when you get the dream and should complete it

like it'll snapshot you having gotten the lucky lad

[dry orbit]

Thats the hope, especially cause most of the other dreams seem to be one off things that could easily happen before?

[keen axle]

As a really low level DK, do I spend 100% on Boomerang upgrade, 100% Shockwave on attack or 50/50 while progressing?

[sleek pollen]

should work like that, as it did for me when I got lucky lad and went to the equinox to snapshot it

[zenith hare]

0, he's very easy to dodge

and if you cant dodge the tusk attack....something is wrong with you

no offence

[sleek pollen]

i'd say slash better

[wild urchin]

Does the fuel components get used up overtime in the refinery machine

[zenith hare]

yes, but its worth it

just follow this

[sleek pollen]

every cycle, timer shown on top of your refiner combustion/synthesis

[wild urchin]

How much does it use up

[obtuse python]

What should I use to push w5? My dk is 80 levels above everyone else cause they were lab jailed but now everyone is doing divination

[sleek pollen]

idk it depends on your rank, for example in the pic bean shared, red salts consume 1.98k gmush cap and 990 copper ore every cycle

[wild urchin]

Ohh thats what it means

[sleek pollen]

ES or DK, up to you, if you push with ES he'll gain massive exp and enough to catch up to your DK anyway

[candid cave]

Is the lab worth it? I don't see the moment to stop skilling and put all the chars there..

[wild urchin]

Which map is the mammoth map?

[candid cave]

w3 in the middle of the map

[sleek pollen]

very worth yes

[wild urchin]

The quest wants me to rush i hate this

[sleek pollen]

from w4 and onward you stop farming skilling resources with your char because with w3 printer and in w4 there is a lab node that makes your print x2, other noteworthy lab node are x3 ref, x2 kill count for the early ones

[candid cave]

Oh, nice. Thanks

[fluid galleon]

yo guys,what's the best card to 5 star?

[pine fiber]

poop, genie, chaotic troll, king doot, normal/chaotic amarok/all the w6 boss cards

[fast hamlet]

How do i make the refinery cycle faster

[candid harness]

W4 lab node, stamps from w5 shop, arcade bonus,salt lick,sigils,vials,shiny pet

[mint rivet]

lvl 3k

[mint rivet]

use 5 starifier on?

[dusty harness]

emperor

[sleek pollen]

step 1 : get emperor

[dusty harness]

[pine fiber]

@cold wraith

[mint rivet]

finally

[surreal bane]

whats the highest talent book level can you get from library ?

[mint rivet]

its smth close to 300

[surreal bane]

with every buff?

danm

[mint rivet]

mine is 290 and summoning is only this advanced, those with summoning perfected can get +29 instead

[surreal bane]

so 160 for now

[mint rivet]

so where is the number of max book level ?

[surreal bane]

394 i see

[sleek pollen]

299 max book library

[mint rivet]

oh found it finally, its 299

i just need that stupid comb

and game decided this will be the last lantern I get to sov

[surreal bane]

how much coin bonus do you guys get?

[wild urchin]

Is unlocking the post office worth it?

[surreal bane]

ofc

[wild urchin]

But it costs so much

[zenith hare]

mine rn

[wild urchin]

For 1 box;-;

[zenith hare]

this is pretty cheap overall i think, even back when i was in w2

[mint rivet]

is the last bonus at 225?

[surreal bane]

you will need daily mailbox also for quick upgrade

[sleek pollen]

250

[zenith hare]

for now yeah

[wild urchin]

Hermit cans pmo bro

[zenith hare]

and you have a printer

[sleek pollen]

you dare forget that super op enhancement at 250?

[zenith hare]

oh yeah there was the extra one added

[wild urchin]

YOU CAN PRINT THOSE?

[zenith hare]

that is completely forgotten about

[mint rivet]

fr?

[zenith hare]

all fish

[mint rivet]

what does it gib?

[sleek pollen]

you can print basically every skilling resource and main monster drop

[mint rivet]

seems good for skilling on vman

[surreal bane]

mine coin bonus shows only a thousand

[mint rivet]

als I don't quite have on what to use points

[wild urchin]

Is there a way to increase sample amount

[mint rivet]

i will just book the last 4 talents when time comes

[wild urchin]

Like it only gave me 2 jellyfish

[sleek pollen]

class exp, dmg, str/agi/wis

[mint rivet]

class exp that low, lame

[sleek pollen]

!printing

[surreal bane]

how to get eff for void stones?

[candid scarab]

3D Printing Advice

[loud stream]

Why does the quest kapow talent not increase when I complete new quests?

[sleek pollen]

beside regular increase like more skill eff, afk gains for skilling resource and mk and afk gain (again) for monster mats

[mint rivet]

I never understood, is this good?

[surreal bane]

at level 50 yeah

after that it just cost soo much for so less

[wild urchin]

How do i get the stamp btw

[sleek pollen]

level, better tools, card, card sign, food, star sign, gear, bubble, stamps, vials

[surreal bane]

printer sample talents in last page

[sleek pollen]

no idea, proly w3 mobs

[mint rivet]

yooo

is this the best cloud discovery captain ever

[sleek pollen]

ULTIMATE CAPTAIN

[mint rivet]

I am grabbing it eitherway

[sleek pollen]

bestest captain ever!

[mint rivet]

i will put in achievements to see how people react

[surreal bane]

should i up fishing and catching level in dk?

[mint rivet]

before

after

[frigid tulip]

Can someone tell me if I should go for 2 sbs or 2 bbs?

[graceful crag]

Is There a Easy Way to Make This Quest? I Can't Spawn Giant Stache

[sleek pollen]

the more giant you killed the higher the spawn chance, 'easiest' way would be to do that quest and spawn a giant mob as soon as weekly reset happen, as it also reset your giant spawn chance

[zenith hare]

ive been scammed damage bonus is additive to other damage bonus multis!!

thought i reached 100Sx!

barely 90!

[sleek pollen]

HUNDRED SEX

[sleek pollen]

seeing the dmg number going over the sheet and on the gear is somewhat funny

[zenith hare]

some people have it further!

[sleek pollen]

[mint rivet]

2 SB

[sleek pollen]

ehh

[craggy cloak]

Best talents on 3th tab journeyman?

[sleek pollen]

both aren't that good anymore

[mint rivet]

did endgamers reach E24 dmg?

[mint rivet]

they are good

better than 2 DB's for sure

[zenith hare]

i think one has

[zenith hare]

and youd be wrong

name two good uses that a second sb does that a second db cant do

thats right. there is only 1 upside

[mint rivet]

nah that's just what I think and will think unless the master class of SB is garbage

[zenith hare]

anvil materials

[sleek pollen]

two good use?

[zenith hare]

yes

[sleek pollen]

[mint rivet]

getting 2 SB's is more like investing for the future

[zenith hare]

as sb has 1 use in anvil mat production

[zenith hare]

keeping one at beginner is a better investment

[sleek pollen]

maestro's tab? if skilling preset, the printing talent and right hand of action

[mint rivet]

i don't think so

[zenith hare]

unless lava makes the storage cap like 100x higher, second sb will never be useful

even with its master. i would bet money on that

[mint rivet]

there is no way we will have 1050m cap in w8

[zenith hare]

also lava said ab full resetting classes last stream

[hushed summit]

Hi Gents,
How can I increase my rebox salt production ?
I am spending more than I generate almost...

[zenith hare]

so back to beginner

[zenith hare]

time

[mint rivet]

woah, did he guarantee it coming?

[zenith hare]

there is no easy way to do it

[mint rivet]

salt lick

[zenith hare]

unless you progress further into the game

further you are, more bonuses you have access to for ref speed

[hushed summit]

im world4

[zenith hare]

idk, i only joined in ab halfway thru the convo

[mint rivet]

then refinery is tough

[zenith hare]

you have lab as a good bonus then

still a good few bonuses missing

which can be unlocked via progression

[hushed summit]

I want to craft those Ice Breaker, but it seems like I consume too much rebox than I generate

[zenith hare]

!gear

[candid scarab]

Gear Recommendations

[zenith hare]

aim for that gear by mid/late w4

[hushed summit]

alright, noted

[robust marsh]

Hmmm I don't even have the w5 gear yet

[zenith hare]

its cause its easy to skip

[robust marsh]

But directly going on troll

[mint rivet]

dw, i was in w6 with dementia gear for quite a while

[sleek pollen]

w5 gear is not necessary, but if you did need dmg you could've crafted it, also you'll eventually craft it because of slab

[robust marsh]

Hmmm slab good for dmg and more buffs

[mint rivet]

just do alchemy

[zenith hare]

ew

alchemy isnt needed for bonuses till like mid-late w6

[mint rivet]

what bonuses?

[zenith hare]

minus unlocking dia chief

like any of it

yes it HELPS, but its not needed

[mint rivet]

well with the new stuff added, probably, but having alchemy Is amazing

its a huge help

[zenith hare]

even w5 time its not too great

[mint rivet]

i've always found it great

[zenith hare]

its w6 when it kicks off

[robust marsh]

It is but you need crazy ton of resources

[mint rivet]

idk what i would be without alchemy

[zenith hare]

when bubo becomes god

[shy ruin]

what's a filler

what kind of master class is filler

[zenith hare]

its a filler class

name hasnt been decided 100%

[mint rivet]

i wanna see bubo with 400 tent

[zenith hare]

though we're pretty sure we know what it is

[mint rivet]

asap

[limpid flint]

hi uh how do crystal printers work

[mint rivet]

if I am not wrong, DB gives max book level increase (+20), but unreachable atm

[zenith hare]

you can print 2 items instead of one

[limpid flint]

ye but like

it aint printing jack shit for me

[zenith hare]

its after an hour, the printer cycle

[mint rivet]

wdym

[limpid flint]

i sampled these 2 but like where to the resources go

[robust marsh]

Get sample size

[zenith hare]

storage chest

[mint rivet]

chest

[limpid flint]

ah

[zenith hare]

imagien if this went into my inv

[mint rivet]

get the royal sampler prayer asap, and up it to lvl 11

[zenith hare]

not to mention the multis, and 6x

[limpid flint]

then why tf does this shit keep going down

it was 30+ hours

[zenith hare]

cause thats how much one cycle uses

[sleek pollen]

dies of being crushed by 1T tons of copper

[zenith hare]

which is every 15 mins at base

[limpid flint]

bro im so jealous

[zenith hare]

so multiply that by 4 for what you need in printer to get 100% uptime

[mint rivet]

dw u will get there by 2030

[sleek pollen]

thats some late game sht

[limpid flint]

but like why is this shit going down

[zenith hare]

so ur slime caps is at ab 55% uptime

which is ur issue

[limpid flint]

should be going more and more no?

[mint rivet]

what from there

[zenith hare]

no because you use more slime caps then you get

15 minutes * 4 = 1 hour. 4 cycles an hour

[limpid flint]

as in its 60/hr on my printer and its 50/hr on my refinery

[zenith hare]

printer happens every hour

[limpid flint]

oh

[zenith hare]

thats not per hour. thats per cycle

[limpid flint]

so basically my refinery is eating up faster than i can produce still? 😭

[robust marsh]

Cycle=15 min base time

[zenith hare]

yes

[mint rivet]

just use 2 1hr candies , 1 at mushrooms, 1 at copper

[limpid flint]

man i thought i could leave my characters from mining/killing slimes

[robust marsh]

How much will he get just for that

[raw inlet]

Is there any difference between crabcake/bored beans? (Both are fleeter)

[limpid flint]

idk man i might be keeping candies til i get W4 or smtg

[mint rivet]

u can use a few

[limpid flint]

barely enough

[sleek pollen]

skins

[raw inlet]

so aside from that nothing then

[zenith hare]

you can print spore caps on more then one char

[mint rivet]

their shiny versions give different bonuses

[zenith hare]

use ur wizard with mana is life ability on

[sleek pollen]

no difference when putting on battle or spice team, BUT if you want 2 fleeter on your battle team you'd need 2 different pet

[zenith hare]

youll see a big jump in spore cap printing

[raw inlet]

ok cool thanks

[zenith hare]

oh you dont have deathnote

[limpid flint]

its so

[zenith hare]

get deathnote ASAP

[limpid flint]

yeah i just upgraded to unlock my other character

as in

[limpid flint]

unlocked the printer for 2nd and 3rd characters

so im making them do the same

[limpid flint]

thanks!!!!!!!!

[robust marsh]

It not much but I get around 4k spore caps with this

[robust marsh]

Bean what does that "down there means?

Is it under world or something

[cedar urchin]

i unlocked 8th character, any recommendations for what class to duplicate? (i currently have 1 of everything + maestro)

[zenith hare]

im thinking underwater

[zenith hare]

DK for construction

[cedar urchin]

okie ty

[agile nimbus]

how to increase money/hr?

[raw pewter]

How do I set up cogtimizer?

[limpid flint]

what the f

[zenith hare]

i should prolly resample this soon tbh

[zenith hare]

by gettinng money% bonuses, any active bonus gains, or afk%

[zenith hare]

it should set itself up i think?

[vocal rivet]

what should my last pet slot be?

[zenith hare]

defender, and btw swap that order around a bit

[vocal rivet]

What's a better order?

[zenith hare]

do this, but swap looter with refiller and itll always work

[vocal rivet]

tysm

[zenith hare]

unless you only have flashy unlocked and not alchemic

as game will crash :3

[vocal rivet]

I think I have both

[zenith hare]

good

i assumed so because mamoth, but was uncertain on order

[vocal rivet]

that bunny and the icecreams right?

[zenith hare]

for the early territories only that. then past the 6th one or smth it should be borger, forager, miasma, and converter

[vocal rivet]

yee that's what i got for the rest of them so far

[cold wraith]

😈

[cold wraith]

thats cute

[wild urchin]

Should i build the talent book library or level 2 of the 3d printer first?

[zenith hare]

why not both

you have base 2 slots

[wild urchin]

O.4 per second

[zenith hare]

yes and the slots have full speed

it doesnt split between it

[wild urchin]

WAIT I CAN BUILD 2

[zenith hare]

every single slot

[wild urchin]

How do i get that gng

[zenith hare]

2 from merit 3, and 4 from gem shop

!merit3

[candid scarab]

1️⃣ One point into Telekinetic Storage which has an ability to deposit all items in your inventory into the chest while destroying everything on the ground. This is a great quality of life feature. Skip this if you have the ram companion.
2️⃣ Buy until you have 3 building spots and 3 food slots. This can be between 0 and 2 purchases depending on gem shop purchases. Food slots will help your pusher go faster and 3 building spots is a 50% construction speed boost.
3️⃣ Talent levels are hugely important and the library should be used as much as possible.
4️⃣ The 3D printer will be how you get most of you skilling materials in the future. To make good use of it you need your sample size to be as close to the 90% cap as possible.
5️⃣ Buy the rest. More slots = more better.
6️⃣ Leveling telekinetic storage gives up to +13.6% Carry Cap which is good for afking longer, stamps and crafting, but is not a priority early on.
7️⃣ You won't get enough points to consider buying respawn for a long time by which you will have cleared all W3 portals.
Get the first level when you reach rank 3 on orange salt and get another level each time a new salt reaches rank 3.
⚔️ The last recipe is for the Chizoars Caustic Scarf which is best in slot for a long time giving both damage and respawn. Get this when you can complete the associated task of beating Chizoar with 8 characters. Other recipes are for Chizoar gear. The helmet gives +15% damage and can be considered if you are making purple salt. The other pieces are mediocre but some make the chestplate for 3% damage.

[wild urchin]

So i should lock in on w3 tasks?

[zenith hare]

for those you can do

[wild urchin]

I can do a bit ig also can you sample gems?

[zenith hare]

no

[meager prairie]

Hello a question for world 3. I didn't get the achievement snowy wonderland. Even tho I already in world 3

[zenith hare]

do you play on steam?

[wild urchin]

It takes time to get achievement so if you just reached it wait for it

[meager prairie]

No

[zenith hare]

when it says steam only, it means steam only

[meager prairie]

It's been 3 weeks

[wild urchin]

Oh

Wait you can get a death note in this game?

[meager prairie]

Why do I have down to the dessert then

[mint rivet]

damn, same lvl as john

[zenith hare]

did you play on steam at once point?

[meager prairie]

Never

[zenith hare]

and i have less maxed shrines

[zenith hare]

very weird

[meager prairie]

Only mobile

[chilly agate]

How do i unlock so i can trap tottoise?

[zenith hare]

jade

[chilly agate]

jade?

[zenith hare]

its a jade upgrade

[chilly agate]

jade emporium?

wtf, is it far down? i cant even see it

[atomic grove]

!merit 4

!merit4

[candid scarab]

1️⃣ Buy one point of spice spillage. This gives you up to a 20% chance to claim all your spices when claiming over an hour of afk gains. Since spices generate more slowly the more you have produced since last claim this will improve spice production.
2️⃣ Having more bubbles get upgraded each day will help a lot, especially when combined with buffs giving more levels per bubble. Only buy this if you can reach the No Bubble Left Behind node in the lab.
3️⃣ Egg capacity is limited and every time the hatchery fills up eggs are wasted until you unlock the rarity upgrade. Also helps you get two achievements with good rewards requiring egg capacity.
4️⃣ Allows you to connect to lab bonuses from slightly farther away which can reduce the number of characters needed in the lab. Note that the max distance between characters, which is called line width, doesn't increase.
5️⃣ Improves kills per hour in W4 but since you likely won't be pushing W4 portals for long this is relatively low priority.
6️⃣ Max level spice spillage triggers every time. They are lower priority since it takes a lot of star talent points and is likely to trigger several times in a row when checking multiple characters.
7️⃣ 3 crystal mobs per day is very little.
Unlocks the recipes for troll armor giving all stat% and the base for all further armor upgrades. It is great but require plenty of Nullo Salt. Don't buy it if you can't craft them.

[zenith hare]

its quite far yeah

[chilly agate]

ive unlocked 26 xD damn that sucks

[zenith hare]

ab mid way

[chilly agate]

ahh ok, thanks ❤️ im far away 😦

[limpid flint]

any tips besides these copper or caps to print

think ill need the caps but idk wht else to print

[zenith hare]

you dont need that much copper :3

[mint rivet]

do I do onyx statue faring, even though