midgame-chat-w3🧊w4🔮

[exotic swallow]

brokie

[obtuse python]

What does it do

[exotic swallow]

not title, nametag.

200% cash and 60% more dmg

[obtuse python]

The blue salt is cold

[obtuse python]

How do u get it?

[exotic swallow]

spin wheel duh

[marble silo]

what's a good pet arena setup with 4 slots?

[rain scroll]

ye cuz green uses all blue

[exotic swallow]

jackpot

[rain scroll]

and i ran out of mats for refinery

[exotic swallow]

how

[rain scroll]

cuz i dont print those yet

[exotic swallow]

lmao

vman for what

[rain scroll]

i only started working rn on vial mats sampling

rn doing beans+snake

[mint rivet]

best run SO FAR, BY FAR

[obtuse python]

Should I try get equinox

[exotic swallow]

still didnt done those?

[mint escarp]

How should I increase spawn rate? Early world 4

[exotic swallow]

no

the tasks would probably be hard for u to do rn

[obtuse python]

What are the tasks

[exotic swallow]

equinox tasks

[mint rivet]

amazing bonuses too

[exotic swallow]

after gear I'll save up all my nullo for skulls

[rain scroll]

my rate so slow

[mint rivet]

chip

[exotic swallow]

those are the late tasks

[obtuse python]

I’ll leave that I’ll later

[exotic swallow]

no there will be easier tasks prior those, dont get confused

[tight cape]

is there any online tool that tracks if our salt costs outpace our 3d printing

[exotic swallow]

easy

[obtuse python]

How do I unlock bloodbone btw

[exotic swallow]

2nd

[obtuse python]

💀

[exotic swallow]

u get there, get portal drop, use it and teleport to equinox

[obtuse python]

Do u unlock equinox on the 3rd?

[obtuse python]

K

[mint rivet]

damn DK is towering over others

[exotic swallow]

u unlock equinox from 2nd, 3rd is just the equinox zone

[obtuse python]

Do yk the acc and health of them

The rams and bloodbone

[obtuse python]

O mean like

[exotic swallow]

this teleport u to equinox

[obtuse python]

I could kill them pretty well

[rain scroll]

kill needed is alot tho

[obtuse python]

Like 2-3 shots w no abilities

[rain scroll]

300k or smthn i think

[obtuse python]

As long as I can unlock it I can leave the rest for later

[west pilot]

I wouldn't focus on unlocking equinox in w4

[mint rivet]

1 mil

[west pilot]

Just push to w5

[rain scroll]

get nobi and then do it maybe

it will x2 ur kill

[exotic swallow]

bro just get better

[west pilot]

Get doot and it's even easier

[exotic swallow]

give me doot

[west pilot]

🤓

[west pilot]

No

[exotic swallow]

I dont want to switch my poket divinity

[mint rivet]

is there any reason to push further than ceramics in w6? (besides the last battle in breeding)

[junior marsh]

what should i print with my 3d printer

[mint rivet]

refinery mats, alchemy mats, stamp mats

in order of importance

[west pilot]

Vials. Spices. Crafts. Constellations. Exp grind. Crystal grind

[mint rivet]

ty

[west pilot]

Basically chiefs and samurais help a lot

[pure nest]

that's way batter than don't having the pocket at all xD

[west pilot]

Also more eclipse

[exotic swallow]

True

[mint rivet]

2mil!

[west pilot]

Also to add that w7 is getting closer so

[exotic swallow]

hope ur stack resets

[west pilot]

Is not bad to have all pushed

[obtuse python]

This card any good?

[west pilot]

Trash card fr

[exotic swallow]

more dr

[mint rivet]

doot card?

[exotic swallow]

yes

[obtuse python]

Yeah

[west pilot]

Why it would be bad

[mint rivet]

yes its very good

[west pilot]

It's 30% dr

[exotic swallow]

de

[obtuse python]

Is that a lot?

[exotic swallow]

better than 0

[west pilot]

For a card it's good

[mint rivet]

its a lot in general

[west pilot]

But emperor is there

[mint rivet]

yeah

72%, 144 if doubled

[exotic swallow]

waiting until lava finally updates limited shop

[rain scroll]

is this good?

[obtuse python]

Wb these

[obtuse python]

Yes

[exotic swallow]

u can have 1 just for slab

[weary trail]

Only one for slab and es

[rain scroll]

divine scarf better?

[west pilot]

Slime is decent minichief is good

[exotic swallow]

minichief is goat

[weary trail]

Not for active ES

[obtuse python]

Minichief tickled my ass

[west pilot]

If active. Pendant is better

[exotic swallow]

yes

[rain scroll]

not worth 600 gems ig xD

can we buy cape/wing?

[west pilot]

If you can afford it

[exotic swallow]

u should get trophy of divine n divine scarf on everyone (besides luckier lad user)

[rain scroll]

using gems

[west pilot]

It's good

[west pilot]

Can't get kruk to drop necklace

[exotic swallow]

I didnt complete trophy quest on only 1 char

[merry rover]

can someone tell me how to get the map for poppy kangaroo

[exotic swallow]

boss was nasty on wing drop

[rain scroll]

w2 shop

[west pilot]

How much dr you had

[rain scroll]

can we buy cape/wing from gems? i think we could? @west pilot

[exotic swallow]

like 28

[rain scroll]

wwith 20xdr i got in 1800-2k keys

[west pilot]

Needs to be on rotation

[winter pilot]

how much damage do i need to get 56 rift?

[west pilot]

Chaotic ig

[exotic swallow]

keys r not problem for me

[rain scroll]

no i mean wing

[mint rivet]

22x bubo on crystal setup

[west pilot]

Ah

[rain scroll]

from nm

[exotic swallow]

just my lazinesss

[west pilot]

I kinda need some keys

Didn't farm kruk on a while

[exotic swallow]

current dr

[rain scroll]

dang

how

[exotic swallow]

packs r carrying me duh

[west pilot]

Packs

[elfin grail]

the "upgrades" button in the top left is gone, wat do?

[timid spruce]

!merit

!merit4

[candid scarab]

1️⃣ Buy one point of spice spillage. This gives you up to a 20% chance to claim all your spices when claiming over an hour of afk gains. Since spices generate more slowly the more you have produced since last claim this will improve spice production.
2️⃣ Having more bubbles get upgraded each day will help a lot, especially when combined with buffs giving more levels per bubble. Only buy this if you can reach the No Bubble Left Behind node in the lab.
3️⃣ Egg capacity is limited and every time the hatchery fills up eggs are wasted until you unlock the rarity upgrade. Also helps you get two achievements with good rewards requiring egg capacity.
4️⃣ Allows you to connect to lab bonuses from slightly farther away which can reduce the number of characters needed in the lab. Note that the max distance between characters, which is called line width, doesn't increase.
5️⃣ Improves kills per hour in W4 but since you likely won't be pushing W4 portals for long this is relatively low priority.
6️⃣ Max level spice spillage triggers every time. They are lower priority since it takes a lot of star talent points and is likely to trigger several times in a row when checking multiple characters.
7️⃣ 3 crystal mobs per day is very little.
Unlocks the recipes for troll armor giving all stat% and the base for all further armor upgrades. It is great but require plenty of Nullo Salt. Don't buy it if you can't craft them.

[mint rivet]

the amount of lag

[west pilot]

Bro playing on alcatel

[exotic swallow]

sounds

bro has no inventory

[mint rivet]

without recording i get 20fps, with recording..well that

oh wow depositing statues makes a sound

[west pilot]

That pc is crying

[rain scroll]

xD

breaking noises

[mint rivet]

killing crystals is satisfying

[rain scroll]

noises? no

[mint rivet]

oh yeah also I am doing giant run now, curious to see how many gems

[exotic swallow]

bottles blowing up

[mint rivet]

especially because of noises

[mossy anvil]

is there way to allocate nblb in lab without puting my characters inside?

[exotic swallow]

I forget to take off my active dk for w6 giants starsign
before weekly reset

[weary trail]

Bare god

[mossy anvil]

so in w5?

[weary trail]

Yea

[mossy anvil]

kk ty

[mint rivet]

finally 1 grand

[rain scroll]

where am i missing my dr ehh

[exotic swallow]

happens to me

jumps from 33 to 30 and so on

[rain scroll]

oh 3 kruk obols

still 20.05 only should be more ;-;

[mint rivet]

chips

[rain scroll]

chips are alright

was missing this lol

[regal valley]

is there a website which reviews ur account?

[exotic swallow]

scoli autoreview

[rain scroll]

20.88x dr

[exotic swallow]

elle will give u a link

[west pilot]

Why me

Just do the command

[exotic swallow]

I dont remember

[regal valley]

dis?

[exotic swallow]

yes

[mint rivet]

https://ieautoreview-scoli.pythonanywhere.com/

[west pilot]

!review

[candid scarab]

https://ieautoreview-scoli.pythonanywhere.com/ - Unofficial 3rd party site made by Scoli
If you need help, please use https://discord.com/channels/437797104786604034/1174753262365315203

[mint rivet]

i recomend pasting json and not first char name

[rain scroll]

i want to max my vials and reach 100% on snake vial what do i do..

[supple quarry]

How can I progress in world 4 bruh my pets can't be used in the grassland fight for the quest

[regal valley]

ohok

[exotic swallow]

u max them out step by step

[mint rivet]

you print

[rain scroll]

how do i do bar ones

and critter and souls one

[exotic swallow]

sb

trapping, worship

[rain scroll]

im doing 2 monster mat rn

[mint rivet]

you need hole maxed upgrade

[exotic swallow]

vman takes out monster vials

[rain scroll]

i have 0 points in it

[supple quarry]

Anyone know how I can make my pet be able to fight?

[mint rivet]

don't neglect skilling

[mint rivet]

then u are not gonna max the bar vials

[exotic swallow]

the skilling ones are easy enough

[supple quarry]

How do I make my pet have breedability or something I'm softlocked in hub of world 4

[exotic swallow]

getting 100% snake is also easy

[exotic swallow]

I should do proper vman speedrun ngl

n sample some for vials as well

[mint rivet]

oh i did not do a vman speedrun since i got him

[exotic swallow]

LMAO

[west pilot]

Bruh

[mint rivet]

like more than half a year

[exotic swallow]

LMAO

[mint rivet]

he's held up good though

[rain scroll]

i did sometime ago (few d) got 52 portals i think

[mint rivet]

same for TD too

my top portals might be 20 smth

[supple quarry]

How do I do the second quest to unlock the first portal in world 4.... My pets have neither breedability or shiny attributes

[mint rivet]

then get attributes

[rain scroll]

do i reset conjo points? @exotic swallow

[supple quarry]

I'm asking how

[exotic swallow]

dont ask me, I whaled points

[storm heath]

how do i place a trap?

[mint rivet]

get pets with purple background and heart symbol, and put them in fence yard for breedability attributes. Dw about shinies rn

[rain scroll]

i could also get some off here

[mint rivet]

oh right i should do that too

i think its a solid purchase

[rain scroll]

ro do i do 2x jewel gamba?

or 2x chip gamba

[mint rivet]

why would u gamba jewels

why chip gamba

[exotic swallow]

chip gamba is worse than jewel gamba

[rain scroll]

top left doubler

but its coming soon 13march

[mint rivet]

then wait

[rain scroll]

so i wont do chip gamba

wb jewel gamba

[mint rivet]

do not gamba u alr got many jewels

[rain scroll]

let me check

getting black ones from there is best

[exotic swallow]

I got 6 jewels left to get

I want them all

[rain scroll]

ima do 2x jewel gamba

or i can do 1x pristine gamba

[exotic swallow]

Imagine if elle didnt get that pristine

first try

for books

[rain scroll]

which

[mint rivet]

i still got no pristine

[exotic swallow]

winning bonus one

[rain scroll]

thats the best pristine i believe

[west pilot]

Skill issue

[rain scroll]

i have ess one (got myself)

[west pilot]

Better gambler

[exotic swallow]

its good but theres also other really good pristines

[rain scroll]

choose 1 2x jewels or 1x pristine

[wheat bison]

Hooly fuck I just got 2 copies of the afk gain keychain from dungeon dice

[rain scroll]

wish me luck

[exotic swallow]

I dont think our choice would help you

[mint rivet]

gl

[rain scroll]

chance to get good is very slim but its okay

[mint rivet]

farmed giants for the week

[exotic swallow]

no u didnt farm them

[mint rivet]

yeah I did

[exotic swallow]

u got 3k chance left

[mint rivet]

what does it gib

[rain scroll]

trash one

[west pilot]

You have 3k left

[rain scroll]

50% sneaking xp

[exotic swallow]

bahahaha

[mint rivet]

100 letters from 50 boxes, damn

[rain scroll]

it is what it is

[exotic swallow]

cope

[rain scroll]

ima reset conjo points and work on bars now

ima max xp every 10,measurer,god,forge

[mint rivet]

100 slimes vs huge aura

having huge aura kills the slug of this world

[rain scroll]

2 points left where to place?

[rain scroll]

why not do on dk u would get alot of items

[mint rivet]

idc about the items

what am I gonna do with cakes

[west pilot]

Bro ur pc is having a stroke

[mint rivet]

well useful for that one starsign

yes!!! can finally max it

[rain scroll]

help

[mint rivet]

hole majik

[exotic swallow]

do we help

[rain scroll]

i placed both in monument one

my cap should be huge now of forge xD

[mint rivet]

243x is insane indeed

[devout jasper]

How do i unlock more space (Not storage, the signs with a lock on them) for pets in breeding?

[rain scroll]

84m dang

[mint rivet]

do arena

[devout jasper]

K

[rain scroll]

does forge bar storage has capacity?

omg ore ended what

i had full 1050m

[mint rivet]

gets a LOT laggier during summoning, and can't turn on high performance since i do no spike dmg

[loud coyote]

Guys

what is better barbarian or squire

[rain scroll]

almost done max copper bar vial

[honest dawn]

why cant u turn on high performence

[mint rivet]

last red battle

[mint rivet]

read the whole thing

[rain scroll]

now new problem how do i send these to storage it will take ages

[honest dawn]

ye but wydm no spike dmg

im confused

[mint rivet]

since auto spawn clicks at thee start

[exotic swallow]

lmaoooo

[rain scroll]

help pls

my storage cap is 47k rn

[exotic swallow]

LMAO

[rain scroll]

tell me solution

[toxic quartz]

maybe automation arm?

[mint rivet]

that's a lot of hp

[west pilot]

💀

[rain scroll]

i made dreadlo bag but still cap only 700k

[mint rivet]

this extremely good right

[pine fiber]

with rucksack?

[west pilot]

make godshard bag + rucksack

[mint rivet]

not enough levels to use godshard bags

[rain scroll]

i dont have rucksack

[mint rivet]

his highest lvl is not 500

[rain scroll]

i cant even use marble bag (need 6 more levels)

[pine fiber]

💀 Keith wtf

[mint rivet]

right?

[exotic swallow]

LMAO

[rain scroll]

;-;

[mint rivet]

holy this is INSANE

[wheat bison]

Do you ever just make mistakes or miss something and when you spot it you're like "Jesus christ, I cant tell anyone about this or Ill die of embarrasment"

[west pilot]

average idleon player

[wheat bison]

I genuinely did not realize I could just.. press the next trap button to swap traps

Ive been making my way to penguins with just.. cardboard traps..

I mean Im there now, so thats neat. But jesus fuck.

[west pilot]

idleon players usually are moles

don't worry

[exotic swallow]

are you a mole

[west pilot]

kinda

[south silo]

hi , best char for active play , just got to world 3

[exotic swallow]

https://tenor.com/view/taupe-hide-gif-5585646

[wheat bison]

Im blind fr fr

[rain scroll]

finally after a ton of clicking i could

💀

[thick valley]

need a king doot run

[rain scroll]

153m more needed for max vial

[mint rivet]

now do godshard bars

[obtuse python]

Bruh 💀

[exotic swallow]

lmao

[rain scroll]

ima pop 1h candy on dk

[rain scroll]

have some patience mate

[steel garnet]

Activate the other ones till u get more lvls

[shadow lark]

barb

youll swap in w4 to something else

[south silo]

k ty

[steel garnet]

Playing active without a respawn mechanic isn't worth it till w4 where u get dk

[shadow lark]

still faster than afk

[steel garnet]

Depends on his accuracy it's gonna be hard for him to get it now

[rain scroll]

this should do

[mint rivet]

wow

[shadow lark]

well i told him to play barb

[exotic swallow]

annoying one

[mint rivet]

now this..is what I want, does it add with the one from justice?

[rain scroll]

finally!! 😭

[thick valley]

💀

[exotic swallow]

💀

[wheat bison]

Pingu farming commences. Here I come, Deuscythe

[mint rivet]

💀

[rain scroll]

iron bar gonna be tough lil bit

[thick valley]

@obtuse python have everything on skill efficiency

tryna run king doot, need 1 more player

[rain scroll]

so ill need 4 iron gstacks mhm

[west pilot]

do godshard

[exotic swallow]

let them finish dreadnog first

[rain scroll]

godshard will need what 15k gstacks?

[mint rivet]

40m?

[rain scroll]

mb i meant full inv slots of 1050m

forgot xD

[crude moat]

Geez I haven't done it

[west pilot]

I mean. With hole and vault upgrades is easy

[crude moat]

I am just lazy

[west pilot]

dreadlo actually decent too

[mint rivet]

this is huge ig

[exotic swallow]

darkredbean keith v2

[crude moat]

Dark red is a pretty old player from what I remember at least a year old

[rain scroll]

should i use barrels or no? i should ig for harder bars

[west pilot]

Lmao

[mint rivet]

i should reset? afteri get the last sushi crop?

[rain scroll]

4mins sb gave 600k bars on brim slots and 400k on all others wow

[mint rivet]

and i got it

faster respawns for mobs?

[rain scroll]

should i bother using barrels for iron bar? dreadlo when i do i will defi use @west pilot

[keen parcel]

Isnt that for faster respawn off your charactar?

[mint rivet]

idk keith saying otherwise

[keen parcel]

Remember that one being shit

[west pilot]

i wouldn't tho

you'll kill the barrels

[obtuse python]

What should my 8th char be

[oak lynx]

What characters do u have

[thick valley]

I choose ES but Dk is good

[pastel heart]

all depends on current character u have

[rain scroll]

finally time to pump it up

today pumped stamps alooot

[sleek pollen]

if 7th was jman 8th should be second DK

[lusty patio]

Im stuck on the fairly odd damage quest can anyone help

[pure coral]

go on a summoning totem and auto attack the mobs until the quest is done

[lusty patio]

Summoning totem?

Oh right nvm

[sleek pollen]

tower defense

[pure coral]

Does the Siege breaker's plunderous coins get picked with auto loot?

from any distance

[nova compass]

whats the lineup to beat the last last spice terotory

[covert fractal]

got to capital P how do you win the first party game?

[pastel heart]

bb

[viral tundra]

the world 3 statues shoudl be farmed on es afk or active ?

[pastel heart]

active

[viral tundra]

how long does that take wiht 20x dr

[pastel heart]

both works tbf

how long? until you're done i guess

[topaz widget]

Guys any idea why i cant hit world 4 boss after he gives me free hit?

[merry halo]

how much defence is needed for world 3 boss?

[shadow lark]

bugged

[pastel heart]

none

[shadow lark]

idk just dont get hit and have food

[pastel heart]

learn to dodge and equip food

[merry halo]

no i mean for him to not do damge

[shadow lark]

check wiki

[merry halo]

ok thx

[covert fractal]

what's a good way to increase fishing xp gain/

[obtuse python]

All elites and a journeyman

[pine fiber]

roo, cards, having mman/vman

[covert fractal]

getting mman

[pine fiber]

maestro should be doable in w4, roo is a clicker in w2

[nova compass]

what is the spice set up for the last terototy

[magic haven]

How to get Ruby Cards? i collected around 3k hornfrog thingy cards already (that one christmas present which never drops 💀) is it a w4 upgrade? or am i missing out something? or only rubifier works?

[pine fiber]

https://idleon.wiki/wiki/The_Rift

[pine fiber]

should be in !guide

[magic haven]

oh dang i could get 4k hornfrog card before that lol

[grand flare]

Do refinery ranks end

[magic haven]

what is w3 called i forgot

[unkempt isle]

whats the second best class to use for lava skull in rift other than sb

[pine fiber]

anything that doesnt instaclear the screen

[magic haven]

is killroy prime just sans tho lol

[pine fiber]

just what

[unkempt isle]

do the mobs with skulls despawn or smth ive been leaving the bottom row untouched for a while and not even a gold skull

[pine fiber]

they either despawn or transfer the skull to another mob

[unkempt isle]

alr

[restive prairie]

How does the 3d printer work?

How can i put item inside

[magic haven]

print things

[grand flare]

You go to enemies or resources

[magic haven]

get the star talent from hoggindas

[restive prairie]

If i open my inventory thr 3d menu close

[grand flare]

Then you allocate the printer talent to your attacks

[magic haven]

when u use that star talent (its a draggable attack) it samples

[grand flare]

After that you make a "3d print"

You go to the 3d printer in frostbite tundra or the quick menu

Then you can press the item in order to infinetly make that amount until you make a new batch

[restive prairie]

Thank you!

[true hamlet]

!guide

[candid scarab]

Mid-Late Game guide for World 3 / 4 / 5:
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/e/2PACX-1vSCepYAs6sNDP4iq6MJNAG1pvFXzfC_3IQ7ttt5vfEEKAgQhIk4cQqnLRyeH6UyqDSuP4R-6WQeDmmP/pubhtml
Video Guides (by GriffyBit):
https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLVGSDQs1AcvjYTAPtYV6ofbeeEfHpEcb4

[obtuse python]

Is this ok for W4

[dense pine]

more than enough

replace that 2nd ring for something better

[true hamlet]

What's the strategy for citric conflict?

[dense pine]

if possible get a better weapon, but yea this could easily get you to like mid W5

[dense pine]

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/u/0/d/193tGCv_nJpgleOzQ2jkO9KEpSh8JcOZLdjDolD9Z0FI/htmlview?pli=1

[true hamlet]

Could you replace the puglist demise? my eyes..

[true hamlet]

that's wave 101+

I'm just trying to scrape by

[dense pine]

just use the same strat

i did it and got to 50

[true hamlet]

I guess it's voidinator at the front followed by frozen and boulders then kraken and party starter spam?

[dense pine]

yea pretty much

[true hamlet]

dang... that voidinator is going to need to do OT

I'm not hitting w50 on that

Equinox dream for another day I suppose..

[dense pine]

i only did it when i was W6

[true hamlet]

I'm not going to go insane buying out shops..

I am w6, quite underprepared though so I've been skilling for 3 weeks

[dense pine]

just do summoning till you get that massive construction boost

[true hamlet]

summoning takes a bit of time for sure

[dense pine]

then you can actually lvl your towers

[true hamlet]

I'm only at 7 7

I don't feel like doing the 3rd one..

[grand flare]

W4 u need void

[dapper sage]

Do you need to do the TD mini game on each character? Or can you just take the charges away with your wizard ability and be fine?

[grand flare]

Ok u dont NEED it but you should have void

[obtuse python]

WHAT

[dense pine]

lmao damn im far behind

[true hamlet]

do on each char

[true hamlet]

no need

[dense pine]

last time i did TD my towers were like lvl 30 max lmaooo

[shadow lark]

you definitely do not need void for w4 lol

[true hamlet]

I just got excited since I got voidinator lmao

[shadow lark]

you can do it in amarok no big deal

[obtuse python]

So will this be ok

[dapper sage]

do I just need to do each char once on each totem? This maximize something?

[dense pine]

@obtuse python

[grand flare]

Actually u need diabolical set to get through w4 at the bare minimum

[true hamlet]

just change 2nd ring

[dense pine]

youre geared for mid W5 lmaooo

[obtuse python]

What for?

[true hamlet]

it's.. suboptimal

[dense pine]

anything, serrated rex wouldnt be that bad

[obtuse python]

How do I get the normal Rex ring tho

[royal robin]

I got like 1000 gems should i save up or buy stuffs now

[dense pine]

dungeons

[obtuse python]

Crystal 3d printer

[royal robin]

Already bought, what else

[grand flare]

That ring only works in w2 replace w better ring

[obtuse python]

The golden anvil and The first Alchemy liquid cauldron upgrade if u don’t have them already

[dense pine]

golden anvil, card slots, food slots

[obtuse python]

Wb cauldron?

[dense pine]

that after those

[obtuse python]

The liquid upgrade

[dense pine]

def golden anvil and card slots first

bleach cauldron and food slots are equal value imo

[true hamlet]

I haven't gotten liquid cauldron 😭

[obtuse salmon]

Would anyone be up for helping with equinox - kill last w3 dungeon boss? 2 is easy, 3 confuses me

[lusty patio]

Where are the mousey critters?

[dense pine]

rats map

[lusty patio]

Ahh yeah that makes a lot of sense

[true hamlet]

stuck in td rn, for w3 dungeon, spend about 6 mins completing tasks to build damage before you rush the boss

I think I do too much dungeons haha

[obtuse salmon]

@true hamlet thanks for the advice bro. It was mainly that I kept missing on boss 3?

[true hamlet]

🤷‍♂️

[west pilot]

Or iron band

[pine fiber]

wanna do my dungeons for me? I gotta puke when I think about them

[true hamlet]

ah yes, to be able to attack the boss, you have to kill 1 of the 2 guards on the top platform

[true hamlet]

I'm stuck in td

[pine fiber]

which one are you doing rn

[obtuse salmon]

@true hamlet dayum... I'll give it another go now then, cheers

[true hamlet]

acorn

I'm r41 and I have 4 star cards lmao

[pine fiber]

oh acorn is nice

[true hamlet]

can you tell I hate w2 dungeon?

[pine fiber]

jesus christ 4star w1 dungeons

[true hamlet]

yeah.. by hand

[true hamlet]

Gives me a bit of dungeons experience xD

[tidal wolf]

how do i get shiny pets?

[true hamlet]

l40 breeding idk

[tidal wolf]

lv 40?

[true hamlet]

yeah

I think? it's the one after pastpres

I'm down to do w3 dungeons if anyone wants to do or needs help

is that circular crits?

[neat jewel]

when did this change?

[zenith junco]

Lust update

[true hamlet]

recently

[neat jewel]

[true hamlet]

I think I'll end it here

I don't feel like waiting an hour

[zenith junco]

Where your Poison towers?

[true hamlet]

not high level

[pine fiber]

get them leveled

[true hamlet]

soon

[pine rose]

Could someone xplain what worship efficiency affects? Wondering if it's worth to level worship crate on postal office on other characters aswell

[true hamlet]

soul gain

I believe

[pine fiber]

yeah soul gain

if you reach a certain breakpoint, worship nets your more souls

[pine rose]

tyty

[royal venture]

any smart players up?

i'm trying to get 15 chemicals, i have 16 sprout spaces, (2 from gemshop), how many more should i buy to make it a bit easier on me? 2 more seems like a good stopping point, thoughts?

[worn raptor]

just have patience

[zenith junco]

i am smart

Number go up

Number grow bigger

[royal venture]

i was advised to invest in lava sprouts earlier, hence the question

[west pilot]

I would just wait till i got it

[zenith hare]

e

[obtuse python]

Is that good enough to get equinox

[shadow lark]

Don’t do it no

[obtuse python]

Kk

[shadow lark]

I’d do it earliest somewhere in w5, there’s nothing major there right now anyway for you

[shy ruin]

should i candy my zows/chows

[shadow lark]

Too early if you need to ask

[obtuse python]

So should I just push to W5

[shadow lark]

Yes

[shadow lark]

Your bb is in lab jail anyway nothing to do with his zows or chows

[west pilot]

i told you like 5hrs ago

[shy ruin]

nah it is not

[upper perch]

Do sigils get affected by alchemy progress from CC?

[shy ruin]

it's in w6 getting db

[west pilot]

no

[shadow lark]

Negative

[upper perch]

Didn't think so, but wanted to double check

[true hamlet]

cc stops it

[shadow lark]

Well then it should be in lab jail after

[shy ruin]

ok

[zenith junco]

Sigils should be done first in alchemy

[zenith hare]

there are some opinions that are just wrong. that is one of them

[zenith junco]

I put a kappa at the end as a sign of me trolling

[west pilot]

People do sigils early

I saw like 2-3 doing sigils today

[zenith junco]

Yeah and its wrong

sigils is by far the last thing you should do

[zenith hare]

you can do like the first 3 but nothing more

[deep silo]

i still don't understand best way to do this ?

[zenith junco]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/849473649832755231/1244288731704332351/image.png?ex=67b1ef2f&is=67b09daf&hm=c0cbf3443c85026edba134adffc81f73c5f8ab1984770abbe057eb602cc11b1c&

[simple fable]

Guys, how do I get upgrade vault

[zenith junco]

Buy them

[simple fable]

no like, the coin icon thingies right

I can't find them anymore

[zenith hare]

you press the thing in the quick ref menu

[zenith junco]

Quick ref

bottom right

[zenith hare]

it's moved for anyone beyond w3 to there

[simple fable]

Im a dumbass, thanks

[zenith junco]

Put all except red on 10%

[deep silo]

so do i need to upgrade the top one again before going for the middle one?

[zenith junco]

And upgrade them according to the picture

[deep silo]

tbh i didn't even know there was a auto refine until literally just now

[zenith junco]

This one is better

then the picture

[deep silo]

how come it takes so long to rank up lol

and what should i 3d print?

[zenith junco]

Because everything in idleon is timgated from world 3 onwards

[zenith junco]

Materials fpr the refinery

[deep silo]

have copper and the spore caps rn

[zenith junco]

Well get flies and those things you need for orange and blue then

[deep silo]

these things are ruff

[zenith hare]

that's where the printer comes in

[simple fable]

I like this

[shy ruin]

LOL YOU CAN SAMPLE THAT??

[zenith hare]

normally gives an error till you get 1 per hour, but yes

[deep silo]

is it worth swapping best gear to other chars to sample? lol

[zenith hare]

yes

[zenith junco]

[white path]

u can also sample bonemeal

even tho boops is technically a boss

[zenith hare]

wait what

that sounds like a bug

[white path]

maybe

i've already gstacked it manually so theres no point for me

[zenith hare]

I keep putting it off

I'll do it when afk% comes

[deep silo]

should my DK just stick to mining or go push

[alpine moat]

how do I get more of the shops, colosseum's, and boss keys on the ez access bar?

[shadow lark]

Achievements

[true hamlet]

Easiest equinox dream? Just use Stone of the Bulwark for free comp

[worn raptor]

13 seconds, no easy

[true hamlet]

I was just stacking damage for 5 mins xD

ran out of time

[alpine moat]

ty'

[true hamlet]

gen sphere would be the icing on the cake but you can never have everything 😦

[deep silo]

is there a guide to best towers and stuff for worship?

[scarlet grail]

how do i make refurbished cog

[grand flare]

U buy a not so furbished cog from store

[scarlet grail]

then?

[grand flare]

And u have it on character thats above lvl 75+

In construction

[scarlet grail]

75+?

[grand flare]

After that u hold down on it and it turns into a refurbished cog

[scarlet grail]

welp i need to wait again then, my highest still 73.. can i use pearl to upgrade the skill?

[grand flare]

Balloons

I meant level 75+ in construction not class level

[scarlet grail]

i can t use the balloons for my construction skill

[grand flare]

Oh

Well then u gotta go the slow route

But u dont gotta worry if your level 73 rn

[scarlet grail]

is this bad?

[deep silo]

i don't even know what the cogs do lol

[grand flare]

They boost build rate

[grand flare]

Whats your placement looking like

Cause it can make a big difference

[grand flare]

U need more characters in your cog production slot to get the higher tiers of cogs

[deep silo]

getting close to w5 and shit still don't be making sense lol

[west pilot]

Wait till w6 then

[grand flare]

[zenith hare]

2 squires on board, every other char make cogs, focus ONLY xp% cogs

[deep silo]

haven't even touched lab, barely touched breeding, and i just have a bb sitting at cooking lol

[zenith hare]

bad.

[west pilot]

Yeah, that barb is a mistake

[zenith hare]

and even worse! bb shouldnt cook early on

like...at all

[grand flare]

[west pilot]

(also the other stuff too)

[grand flare]

Poor poor fella

[zenith hare]

BB should only start cooking by about 500 ladles a day at least

[deep silo]

was just following the talent guide that says 2 bb is good

[west pilot]

💀

[zenith hare]

ive not seen a single guide say that

[deep silo]

i get like 15 ladles

[west pilot]

The old one does

[zenith hare]

thats not the order to get them in btw

1 of each, 1 mman, 1 dk, 1 es, then last choice was 1 sb or BB

right now though its better to hold off on that choice due to masters releasing

so meta is shifting VERY soon

[deep silo]

but how do i get 500 ladles a day

[zenith hare]

you get the multitool stamp

[west pilot]

I would still recommend sb over bb

[marsh glade]

Is there any way to filter out the crystallin stamp?

[zenith hare]

which people gets late w5-early w6

[zenith hare]

it has literally one upside.

[white path]

complete the quest or forfeit the quest

[west pilot]

Turn in the quest or forfeit

[zenith hare]

being anvil production

everything else BB does better (even before DB)

[marsh glade]

Which quest, I think I did it so long ago I remember it being a normal crystal mob drop

[zenith hare]

and forge isnt an issue anymore, the reason why second sb was good

[zenith hare]

one of the pig quests iirc

[white path]

gigafrogs map pig quest

[buoyant hinge]

Hey i just got my dk what should do know with my talent points

[marsh glade]

I found it, thanks a ton. It was annoying my es to no end

[zenith hare]

well first read them, second send him to lab so ur other chars can push to elite

[buoyant hinge]

Gotcha

[zenith hare]

worry about the active shite after you have all elites

well all basic elites, not vman

[buoyant hinge]

Ok

[buoyant hinge]

I don't even have my jonery man

[zenith hare]

get him at some point, its better to work on him sooner rather then later

[deep silo]

my pushing char w4 atm

[marsh glade]

Speaking of elemental sorcerer, what's the purple bubble that gives talent points and what materials does it need? I'm about to get my bubo so alchemy will probably pick up the pace, hopefully.

[zenith hare]

over 6x damage needed, and its on a BM of all classes

and also steel bands is better then those rings

[zenith hare]

bubo wont make alch that much better, hes mainly for lab

bubo only gets REALLY good for alch after you can reach talents of 200 or higher

which tends to be early w6 time if you dont have slug

about mid-late w5 time with slug

[marsh glade]

Ah I see

Well any liquid boosts are welcome, I have autoloot so maybe I can squeeze out a few more levels/day

[zenith hare]

yeah it helps a bit, but it gets far better later on

its at maybe 1% of its true power!

[marsh glade]

I think I saw it on YouTube a while ago

[zenith hare]

bubo go brrrr

[marsh glade]

If it's half as fun looking as card farming with es I'll be very happy

[zenith hare]

as an example of a high end bubo, i get 600k seconds of alch progress every 15 mins or so...which i dont think i need to say is busted

by the time you get talent 200, you get like 100k every 30 or so minutes

[west pilot]

pushing on bm is crazy work

[zenith hare]

before i think its closer to 5k-10k per like 3 hours

[deep silo]

the man claps, who else pushes ?

[zenith hare]

DK/ES if you active, BB if you afk

[west pilot]

literally any class is better

[deep silo]

so what should i put my BM on?

[zenith hare]

Bubo has more damage and good surv due to invinc talent

[zenith hare]

lab, everyone minus pusher should be in lab

[west pilot]

lab

[zenith hare]

otherwise you fuck ur mman up massively

if you keep skilling

[deep silo]

no vman yet

[zenith hare]

that doesnt matter

its mman that gives the big eff bonuses

NOT vman

[marsh glade]

He needs to be your highest skiller iirc

[deep silo]

need skilling items for item upgrades lol

[zenith hare]

yeah

[marsh glade]

So it doesn't matter if you have or not

[zenith hare]

oh your mman is gonna die

thats what the printer is for

[west pilot]

bro is doing everything bad

[marsh glade]

What I do is take prints and then sit in lab for double efficiency

[west pilot]

another BB on kitchen

[zenith hare]

yeah

[west pilot]

💀

[marsh glade]

So I get materials without exp

[zenith hare]

lab gives more mats overall anyways

[deep silo]

so what exactly does lab do? does it lvl my chars?

[zenith hare]

doesnt give skill xp too

[zenith hare]

gives 2x printer output, gives 3x refinery speed, gives free alch levels every day, gives 2x kph to everyone not in lab, gives world wide shrines, and many many others

[marsh glade]

No bubble left behind is also very nice

just connect characters to these nodes

[zenith junco]

NBLB doesnt carry you tho

you cant rely on it

[low arrow]

I need to let mman grind mining hes 20 lvls behind dk 😂

[marsh glade]

I know I'm supposed to have more in there but they're getting their elite classes

[zenith junco]

you need to push alchemy yourself with the support of NBLB

[marsh glade]

I said it's nice

[zenith junco]

Yeah all good, but some people rely on it too much

[marsh glade]

Not that it carries

[low arrow]

I learned that mistake and now i upgrade till hard cap on mats

[zenith junco]

[marsh glade]

What's a good way to push trapping gains early w4?

[zenith junco]

20 minute claims

[high trail]

best way to farm it?

[marsh glade]

Figured

[shadow lark]

upgrade traps for everyone

[shadow lark]

just breed innit

[deep silo]

how do i get lab xp

[shadow lark]

keep people in lab

[marsh glade]

Afk with your character in lab

[shadow lark]

❓

[marsh glade]

Perfect

[grand flare]

Nice

[high trail]

which one is innit i donr remember

[marsh glade]

Just keep them in there, the lines get longer as they level up

[grand flare]

Its a saying not a pet...

[high trail]

didnt know thx xd

[marsh glade]

British strikes again

[deep silo]

i need 200 lvls for next character to make into vman tho

[marsh glade]

Getting lab levels is very important, it's a boring grind but you'll thank yourself later

[shadow lark]

vman is your 9th?

[mossy anvil]

im a bit confused why u guys telling to put chars into lab, why it is so urgent when other chars can do different tasks meantime

[shadow lark]

because lab is more important than other tasks

what different tasks are they gonna do

[deep silo]

trapping fishing upgrading gear and pouches?

[marsh glade]

Lab gives double prints so they're basically skilling without exp along with other bonuses

It's just more worth it than not keeping them there

[mossy anvil]

mining/catching other things that im not printing, bb is pushing to w5, es is pushing to equinox etc

[grand flare]

Lab is very important

[shadow lark]

just print those things when you need them

[grand flare]

I use it for refinery and vials

Plus u can still do "tasks" while in lab

Not like you need every character at the same time

[mossy anvil]

no, i dont need every char at the same time for sure

[ancient arch]

how long do i let people rot in lab in w4? i currently have dk1 pushing, bb+bubo+sb+es+bm+jman in lab and second dk farming materials. should i have es farm and dk2 in lab? when the hell do people leave lab

do they rot until divinity and then rot there inw 5

[shadow lark]

yes

[ancient arch]

my poor souls

[grand flare]

Meh. A meaningful sacrafice.

[marsh glade]

Realistically you're only going to "main" one character at a time anyways

Can't be active on more anyways

[deep silo]

is there an up to date talent guide?

[shy ruin]

just let 3d printer do the farming for you

[shadow lark]

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/e/2PACX-1vST3HcgBgeq8H9jztaMhUXZAAAHl120PvDVo_48qJpn6n9qnpa-TWmuG_kN9cmtr66M-OtO482XIOAk/pubhtml#

[deep silo]

this looks the same as the one i'm using lol

[ancient arch]

so should even the second dk be in lab?

[shadow lark]

yes

[ancient arch]

literally 7 and only 1 out

[shadow lark]

yes

unless they need to do something important

[ancient arch]

https://tenor.com/view/crying-boy-walk-away-cry-man-tears-gif-5637398

[marsh glade]

If your second dk is mining take prints and do that in the lab

[deep silo]

HELL YEAH !

[mossy anvil]

is pushing to equinox with other char than pusher more important than lab

[grand flare]

Divine knight my sunshine

[shadow lark]

if youre asking its too early for equinox

[marsh glade]

I unlocked equinox getting that stupid 1/1million ring
1.25 mil kills with 3x drop rate

[mossy anvil]

alright thanks

[deep silo]

how much faster is active vs afking killing monsters?

[shadow lark]

for classes with respawn mechanics, extremely

[deep silo]

dk has respawn?

[shadow lark]

yes

[marsh glade]

Yes

Basically if you have any ability that revives monsters faster (bubo raise the dead, es wormhole etc) it's better active

Otherwise afk

[deep silo]

should i use candies to push?

[shadow lark]

nah, w5 is gonna be way worse

[shy ruin]

howd you get more 12 hour candies than 1 hour candies

[deep silo]

xd

i use 1hr candies when i need a lil push

[mossy anvil]

do i bother with equiping lab cards on every char? i guess yes right

[shadow lark]

some are passive so pay attention

[vital verge]

is this good to do with SB?

[mossy anvil]

and why is it a bad thing?

[shadow lark]

because you dont need to equip them

[vital verge]

all my ES are 10 hours afk on rift so i skip the afk kills one

so i dont wanna change to them

[shadow lark]

you can try ya

[pastel heart]

passive is passive so you dont waste card slot

not a bad thing it's a good thing

[mossy anvil]

thats all i can cook for lab cards tbh

[slender lichen]

i mean it could be good if you have them focus directly on lab

[pine fiber]

tv is breeding xp tho

[mossy anvil]

so now i put as much passive xp for stuff as i can?

[low arrow]

4 days with variable candy worth it

[mossy anvil]

true, i cant read i guess

[pine fiber]

and farm out your amarok cards man

[deft stone]

Any recommendation on what kind of runes to put into my amulet and sword that I just crafted? Am in W3 almost to boss, do I wait till W4 to get better runes?

[ancient arch]

yes, wait for w4

[shadow lark]

the slime amulet is better btw

[ancient arch]

they become not random then

[deft stone]

Aw damn for real I spent tonighnt getting this amulet to replace my slime one, rip

[ancient arch]

the armor guide images need updated

[deep silo]

what does this thing do

[shadow lark]

read your orb talent mate

[pine fiber]

read the description?

[deft stone]

Any other gear recommendations for where I'm at or is this solid

[shadow lark]

yeah thats enough until w5

[ancient arch]

looks good, u will probably reforge amarok to put w4 stones on

[deft stone]

Havent put runes in any of this gear yet, crafted it all today - will wait till t4

[deep silo]

bro how do i sample goldfish lmao

[ancient arch]

oh perfect

[shadow lark]

keep clicking sample

[mossy anvil]

alright

[deep silo]

ah just being unlucky then lol

[ancient arch]

wait until you pull a goldfish

[low arrow]

Me with 100 keys not farming c ama card

[ancient arch]

anyone know any relatively fast ez access achievements to farm out rq

[shadow lark]

which ones are you missing

[ancient arch]

i have just ephaunt keys 😦

[topaz plover]

Is there any way to speed up traps? There probably isn't, but I'm desperate to get this over with so I can get anvil tab 4 and I'm only on the mice rn

[shadow lark]

lmao

[ancient arch]

i didn't find out that's how it worked until recently

[shadow lark]

platinum 200g, half a mill-log, super cereal

[deep silo]

why did i just lose half my dmg?

[shadow lark]

accuracy

[deep silo]

i got 100%

[shadow lark]

read your talents pleaaaase 😭

squire talent, left side

[ancient arch]

🎯

[deep silo]

so what would be a good way to up my accuracy ? feel like i got about the best i can get lol

[shadow lark]

alchemy, stamps, po

[ancient arch]

roo, vault, stamps

[shadow lark]

upgrade your armor on mage to get wisdom instead of strength

[vital verge]

FFS

2 TIMES 5M

[ancient arch]

man my printing is fucked lmao this will take a second

[shadow lark]

lol yeah i stopped there when i caught up yesterday

[ancient arch]

but those seem achieveable i just need to move some stuff around

[mossy anvil]

alright, now put lab boots on everyone and put them to jail?

[shadow lark]

ya

[pine fiber]

yeah

[plush blade]

woo i got my first one!

[timid spruce]

!guide

[candid scarab]

Mid-Late Game guide for World 3 / 4 / 5:
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/e/2PACX-1vSCepYAs6sNDP4iq6MJNAG1pvFXzfC_3IQ7ttt5vfEEKAgQhIk4cQqnLRyeH6UyqDSuP4R-6WQeDmmP/pubhtml
Video Guides (by GriffyBit):
https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLVGSDQs1AcvjYTAPtYV6ofbeeEfHpEcb4

[deep silo]

whew i got it back

turns out cards help a lil bit

do you guys use potions ?

[shadow lark]

yes

[shadow lark]

mate youre gonna be overweight with that much food

[deep silo]

usually afk for 12-24 hours

which potions best? i tried the mana ones and in an hour i used 1

[shadow lark]

upgrade your food bag

well the mana one is useless afk

dk is generally bad afk

[keen dirge]

What’s an actual good site for builds?

[deep silo]

which pots should i use

[shadow lark]

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/e/2PACX-1vST3HcgBgeq8H9jztaMhUXZAAAHl120PvDVo_48qJpn6n9qnpa-TWmuG_kN9cmtr66M-OtO482XIOAk/pubhtml

Power and move speed

[steady grotto]

Hi, what's the best classes for afk farm DNA Splices ? I saw that it was SB 2 years ago, wanted to know if it's still the case

[shadow lark]

Uh anything with high afk gains

I did with bb while I was farming his chow

Technically 2m claims are best

[smoky relic]

it says contracts drop from penguins actively, but i killed 100+ and still none dropped ?

[shadow lark]

1/1000 Chance

[smoky relic]

gonna be lot of 'fun'

xD

[ancient arch]

do people hold onto arcade balls

[white path]

i do

[merry halo]

what food i should use for world 3 boss fight

[deep silo]

i love holding my balls

[pine fiber]

[desert sapphire]

what should be my 9th character? already have maestro running, and i have a 2nd squire, idk if i should go 2nd ES or SB

[ancient arch]

you're overthinking it, just use your best food and send it

[merry halo]

ok thx

[faint bramble]

Yes hold on till you have thousands and thousands then either wait till event for let it run arcade while u take a nap and wake up with tons of gems

[ancient arch]

the fight is simpler than ephaunt, you can auto and just manually dodge rocks and hit the things that pop up

[deep silo]

how is this a spear

[ancient arch]

the big end is where you hold it

[faint bramble]

Lava logic Is amazing

[deep silo]

lmao

[white path]

all warrior weapons are spears

[ancient arch]

you can definitely feel the maplestory influence but i'm assuming he decided relatively quickly that he didn't want a division in weapon types like polearm vs. spear

[deep silo]

so if all my chars are in lab how do i upgrade my wep? i need some penguin critters i think

[faint bramble]

Need to trap em

[deep silo]

i just got to rats

[ancient arch]

do you use BM for trapping

[deep silo]

ye

[ancient arch]

do you have drone unlocked

[deep silo]

is that the skill ?

[ancient arch]

drone is from cons

[faint bramble]

Trying to remember what the empty slot is and I can't for the life for me

[deep silo]

oh

[ancient arch]

it's not needed but it also simplifies it

[deep silo]

nah don't even know what it is lol

[white path]

not implemented

[ancient arch]

since critters can't be printed i think your best bet is probably just to stack everyone's boxes there (drone helps with this) and then collect on BM. if you want to do it actively you can set more frequent traps, and that way you're only popping bm out of lab for a few sec each time you collect

[deep silo]

yeah i'm doing 8 hour traps rn

except now i have my 3rd trap and that's like 60 hours

[ancient arch]

you can double or triple up traps on the same critter

also there's an unlock somewhere that allows everyone to have one more trap, do you have that

wait wdym 60h

they run concurrently

[ancient arch]

yeah so in 7h have BM collect mad rats

[violet vault]

can anyone help me unlocking the frosty peaks teretory?

[outer shell]

im just doing that, is it possible in party? i will gladly team up

[night terrace]

does catch efficiency include trapping?

[violet vault]

no

[steady grotto]

Ok thanks, I'm still early/mid game, not sure i'll have that amount 😄

[zenith junco]

2 whole different skills

[deep silo]

this dude is a champ, clears the entire map for the talent to respawn all the mobs

[zenith junco]

Welcome to elite classes

[hoary pebble]

Wait until your bubo can one-shot everything in the screen and immediately respawn all monsters. And then it does this several times per second with tenteycle. It's even more fun than DK.

[deep silo]

i cry they all in lab

[viral vapor]

what is a good spot to do really rudimentary bubo alchemy prog?

[zenith junco]

As soon as you hit level 200 Tenteycele