#midgame-chat-w3🧊w4🔮
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doot isnt always active?
doot is a special case
need div level 2
!gear
the cost to make the next gloves beyond the wraps is crazy
yup. the numbers escalate quickly and I don't feel like I have enough equipment for it
what's the agent L130 guy at w4 town? do I need to be L130 to talk to him?
L150, and it's a hint
With Journeyman, I can get both Maestro and Voidwalker with only 1 character right? Since I can 'evolve' it at level 150?
it wasn't there on my last account (I lost access)
vman is the upgrade to mman
meaning you need Level 150 to talk to em (on mman)
that's how you start the vman quest
Aight cool, thanks. Wanted to make sure they don't require 2 characters 😂
So I can safely try to get Maestro now in that case.
Damn dont know what to do
Hey I just say something about reddit and idelmancer can anyone tell me what It is?
Or just give a link to that page
That didn't totally look like you were not quitting
he's completely quitting
its idleover
No more achievement for them
Hey I was doing the chizore armour but I realised that one of my charectors is not even half way through w3 so I am not able to get chizore armour right now
is it expected by w4 that anyone mobbing will need food to survive?
I need tips on how to get chizore scarf easily (I have burned 70 keys already)
While on mman
terrible news.
then go through w3
food gets consumed way too quickly for anything sustainable like overnight
What do you think I am doing right now
oh nevermind, i just left no pain no gain in my action bar. all is good in the world
connect all
But can’t the divinity just light up the nodes later ?
Does levelling each char provide bonuses ?
idk ive doot
lvl up chars give more connect range
compare
it uses ur lab range, it doesn't light them all up
if you can't reach shit, you still can't reach shit with divinity
so i'm currently pushing my first character though w4 with Brightside getting around 4k kills an hour, i'm just wondering if I'm missing anything, or should just wait a week or 2
It's good I pushed with 2k
ok
Ohhh and if level up then it increases my range?
This could be increased by levelling?
And question do I need 50mill dmg on my bb or more for kattlekruk (I have juiced out all my options as much as can I can't possibly increase it without grinding for a week)
Ye
I increase it by 6.7% or something with stamp
My es is doing only 10k kph at lamps can you calculate how much time he will take to be there?
At kattlekruk
If its candy then it will take 24/5
Ye one more question my bb and es are doing almost same dmg but why bb doing 20k kph and es 10k kph?
Chow give more dmg maybe?
Es has like 30m+ dmg
Also yeah bb talent givemore dmg the more hp you got
With 112% afk gains
Oh ye I am using it
Yeah that
That's how I got 50m
Also my bb give more kph on afk rather than active
Me too brother
Yeah time to get your vman when reach kruk
i thought i could cheese mastro levels but i overestimated the gd balloons man fml
Damn i still need to lvl it up tho
I need 50 lvl more for 9th char also
Out him in w5 he will gain lvl fast there
Good you got Equinox?
I need to resample soon tho
Yeah currently running it
Thanks for the reminder
I might have but I need to resample mob drops cus I didn't resample them after I got like some millions of damage boost
Yeah lol
I sampled them when I did like 900k dmg
Sheesh so much
I'm so confused. How are my 5 other characters catching up to my bubo (my first and main character) in alchemy level??
my sixth character I made like less than a week ago is already level thirty the same as my bubo
If they haven’t been on a skilling preset in a while
Not sure
I noticed some alchemy activities give more xp
Like liquid cauldrons give more xp than color bubbles
And also xp and speed increases with max lvl so there’s a built in catch up system
interesting
this in particular would explain why my recent character caught up but the others catching up too is odd
Is there a w3 equivelent of owl/roo?
no
Thankfully
he decided against it due to 90% of the community hating it
F
F
No, no F
Free bonuses thoughhh 
You just got a bunch of free bonuses with the vault
free isn't the right term
free bonuses if you don't have a social life yes
or...anything better to do
I hated roo but Orion was very easy
My issue is that they don’t interact with anything, they’re just there
Although rn I’m managing a lot of things in game so if a w3 one dropped i wouldn’t even bother with it for a month or so
on release you couldn't hold the upgrades to upgrade
So instead of making it integrate with content better just remove it
Seems like the way togo
nah
delete that, rule 4
Don’t say that here
me when that's physically impossible
Was memeing
You underestimate me
I also know human limits
But you have 10 fingers
True, but holding anything more than 20cps consistently hurts like hell
only gotta move each one 3.3 per second
without any remapping or drag clicking, 35 cps is impossible
all in one spot?
is there any notion of afking trapping? like i know fundamentally the skill works by not being there, but i mean like... where do i leave my hunter if not mobbing?
Anythign possible with enough dedication and hard work
basically no where as hunter is useless, he's stuck in lab in w4, divinity in w5, and after that the hole forever
Gmush?
not even
poor hunter. i saw advice to not stick people in lab right away, when do i eventually start fulltiming that?
yay I get 40m kph when I need an extra T kills to make a difference
right away
Is there a way to get spices faster? The ones from the breeding nest.
it's that or get elites
I actually delayed it till w6 but I don’t recommend it at all
and then they get shoved right in minus one char
the top pin has the fastest forage speed setup
I need them for a lab gem so getting it in 5 days would be nice
Usually like mid w4 i would say, although if characters have no priorities to you then indeed, lab and bm to cooking
active BM when you have vman also helps...slightly
best case you do it 4x faster at drawback of not activing anything else
just started working on that today.. gonna take a hot minute
nah optimal is ASAP or after they get elite
2x kph node is THAT good
Elite is a better place marker to specify for sure; All of my characters sat in lab till level 75 & now they get to sit in the hole till monument is max
they'll sit in hole even after that~
reminder that more hours = more stats in monument
also the fact we will have 4 of em
I already had something extremely similar to that so my speed didn’t go up by much 😭 any other ideas? Does the elephant divine increase spice speed or just egg rate
just egg
surround it with whales too helps
claiming every time the bar fills too
and reminder that the spice spillage talent bypasses the claim limit
and also works with 1 hour candies
Any tips on getting more accuracy I am struggling at choccies in W4
obols, gear, tools, cards, card sets, w1/2 clickers, dungeons, prayers, star signs, talents, stamps, PO boxes for acc
So it's probably gear, star signs and maybe tools a little bit
if you buy multiple kitchens do they all work same time with just one character working on it?
kind of a dumb question, is there a way to just... not gain exp when collecting worship souls on my ele sorc? lol
i need to get my vman ahead in levels
No
yeah i figured. just gotta keep chipping away lol

what gear upgrades should I do?(lv 145)
just redid my trapping and went from like 40k rats per collect to 400k lmao
Do mobs spawned by ES wormhole also have their same drop table?
full dementia
is rex ring bis until w5?
uh, i dont think so bc u can use tenacity rings, i could be wrong
nope! iron bands are tied by w4 and better in w5
tenacity is even better, and most people have level 150 in w4 so opals in w4/5 is BiS
What world you in?
4
For now you don't need to upgrade
Just push to w5
Your pretty strong to honestly
well that character is like 50 levels higher than the rest lol
Yah just push with hem and do other stuff with you other charecters
Cuz even waisting 1 day in is a no no cuz w5 gives alot of bonuses
what does fence yard do?
You put shiny pets in them and they gives bonuses like more exp drop rate and everything you can imagine
Its not big boost but most of them i think do multiple so yah
Btw there upgrade take AGES
So you need vman and beast master
For faster upgrades

also how do I get higher DR, I legit have only like 2.5x
Money(reall cash)
Investing time
Using drop rate gear
Some pets give dr
W1 owl
W2 kangro i think
Vault
And so much so on
istg im doing that other than irl money
even with cards im still way off
What world you in?
got to 4 like 2 days ago
Yah
I think your still to early to complain about dr
Just focus on pushing to w5-6 for now you gonna have alot of sources to get more dr later on
im not getting enough damage or kills, so im kinda just tracing back to get stuff
by not ignoring shite
the past 3 updates has given us like 300% dr for free for progressing in the game
and before, dr should be ab 3-4x by mid-late w4
geeus
so id say nowadays if you dont ignore much, should be reaching close to 5x by then
vault is busted~
then I have nfc
i was saying by end of w4 btw
and ur kph should be around 1k ish, assuming 100% acc and surv
I already maxed my dr vault upgrade 😭
likely more as vault update gave us 60% afk gains
cause youre early w4
and i said late w4 is ab when you should be approaching those numbers
mainly from star signs, prayers, slight bit of luck stat (not much), dr star talent from weekly bosses in w2 town, obols, and a few others
like 2.5-3x
im cooked 💀
dr doesnt really help much early on anyways
its mid-late w5 where it becomes important
ok true
i should pop on my alt and see what I can get my DR up to now
Nah my giant monster odds are bugged for sure, I got 2 black lenses and 3 crystal mobs with a 1 in 1.3k chance of a giant monster
what character?
if its ES, thats why
Nah it’s a dk
also crystal mobs is only base 1/2k
example, mines 1/25 chance for crystals to spawn
orb multiplies all drops by orb count (as a %)
any obvious upgrades for KPH or better damage, my kph is currently tanking rn
what is it?
do you have 100% acc? 100% surv?
I mean sure I guess but I killed like 5k monsters at this point active and still no giant monster
if not, do that
whats ur guild task say?
for active monsters killed
im like 1.7k on purp mush
thats REALLY high jesus
people have like 1k, until they get the 2x kph node in lab
Is that relevant ? Nothing about giant monsters in my guild task
after shrines, and boost foods, no dk talents tho
it counts true mob kills
you can tell ur rates without guessing
yes and people have that 1k with every boost they have access to
I’m at 5202 monster kills in the guild tab and no damn giant monster
hi
it happens
so I should prob get this first b4 rushing W5?
you should be getting every elite class first anyways
people do it in 2 methods
1 being everyone rushes it asap at once, other being you push one at a time with rest in lab
hey guys- twice today, my 3d prints have randomly swapped from purple down to yellow... but I have Harrip and Lab active. idk what to do. earlier today I fixed it by turning Harrip off and back on (from the Hole), but this time it didn't work. help! 😦
Bean my db suddenly got 10q idk why
its a visual bug
vault
oh thank god
not same hat smh
what's a really easy way to get accuracy that im missing rn
obols, gear, tools, cards, card sets, w1/2 clickers, dungeons, prayers, star signs, talents, stamps, PO boxes for acc
Hat is different
And no name tag?
can get ab 50k acc if you focus all of em
w4 needs 16k acc by the end
5k to get elite
yes to all except, prayers, star signs, idk what talents give accuracy and I havent invested into PO boxes just yet
sub stat
wild, 16k
maxed
yep
not in sub stat and not with w4 stones
w4 stones are omega op
they give main stat of class applying em
SO if a mage was to apply stones to a warriors gear
that gear gains wis
im sitting at 6k accuracy
did that on dem gear
you havent had enough time to buy the stones without getting really lucky first tries
get 20 or so stones a day, dem armour has 16 or so slots
ok ig shaq bubble is like lvl 12, but I doubt it'll help much maybe 1k
success rate in a max guild is 27% iirc
my shaq was level 19 by end of w5
I'm poor
so your buff was around 20% ish?
and this was before all the op acc increases
im currently 12%
Is there a way to see active gains? i just unlocked divine knight and would like to know the differences between afk and ctivea
clickers, and vault was a game changer
you cant without monitoring the gains yourself
im mega feather 4, and roo is just slow
very small bonuses
dang
Not sure about clickers but vault is definitely a banger update
yeah but kinda just looking for any obvious acc buffs
.....not till later on anyways
dungeons
Sure you are 
50% acc multi
it's like 40% rn
cards, a lot of acc multi
w3 card set, another acc multi
I be wasting my gems on the most useless shi
too many sources
ok wait I actually didnt see w3 card set
just half focus all of em and all ur acc issues are solved forever
Turns out i haven't finished buying the all materials capacity from gemshop
as long as you dont 100% ignore it, youll be fine
but my accuracy cards I'd say are above avg
anyways i sleep now
Whatever it's called, it looks like an infinity logo on a cap bag
leo take over!
which prayer gives 50% acc?
the good one
wait fr which one lol
w2 TD wave 30 iirc
and what's the curse, if it's defence im jumping off
very easy to get
I mean, the event is here soon, make a list and buy them as per priority
thanks
Well I'm definitely getting all the zen cogs that's for sure
I have like 3 more to get
Lol, you would need like 8k or 12k gems iirc
I don't care abt priorities, my ocd comes first 
It is what it is, I'll still get it
Maybe I'll stop once it gets to 10k
And focus on other stuffs
Save the gems u get from the event to gamble on the event wheel (if it gets added again) 
another question... Is there a way to fast equip a prayer
There would be that but I am no gambler for that wheel, I got some stuff to buy and I'm too busy to do daily bosses
yes you go to the prayer stone 🙂
It's only 100 bosses a day now, do them 
Would be convinient
i like punishing myself whenever i change prayers.. makes me never want to change them
Did i spell convinient wrong cuz my keyboard ain't showing that word
i would much rather spend more timem and get more gems 
Haha that is a very lava thing to do lol
When did it get nerfed again
convenient
Ah that's why
this last patch. button went back to a static spot and appears faster now though, at least
Last patch
yea honestly the moving button made it a pain to do even a few bosses
I love how with the vault players can now focus on other monster kills for other bonuses
all i wanted was cavity teeth and it just keeps moving
real (i have 0 kills for those mobs)
That's sad 
Now what are the good ways to obtain gems free (without paying $)
gambling
Only had 1b on all the monsters from w1 to w5
Not sure I follow you here
"only"
Am I doing something wrong where when I try to punch troll as vman on iOS I automatically crash
Same
spend gems to buy arcade balls and repeatedly hit jackpot
Had to stop doing eclipses for w6 cuz my sb ain't getting enough kph
Ah, nevermind
foolproof if you ask me
all you need is a lil luck and boom gems
Put everyone on one mob
That's how I did it
Now my db doing 1b wows
Oh yea that's smart
do i need to hit mk if im going for higher rift levels
Daily 100 bosses, daily doot, daily biggie hours, weekly minibosses, weekly giants, daily gems from alchemy, arcade, daily picnic quest,
Nah mate, i was too much of a noob in w4
Haven't even start doing wows yet
So around 250
havent even started doing chows yet
oh im hardstuck w4 LOL
That's good, I don't active play so I'm just doing wows
Progression is very fast in idle on so you'll be fine
im getting cooked out here and he says "very fast"
🪖
I just let my idleon account marinate for a year
And after that my progression was pretty quick
was everyone lab jailed for the whole time or what
At some point me and leo were having very similar progress
bruh I really need the lab bonuses
So i had no problem with damage when i came back
Forgot about that lmao
how much approx
Don't rmb precisely how much but it was at yellow numbers
from basic attacks???
Yea
the forced level 8 breeding locking the way truly is one way to slow things down
Wait no
bruh that's like 10m
Nnah nah it was at like10m below mb
I rmb jaegar was still teaching me how to play the game back then
below 10m is not a good benchmark for me
He didn't got much patient with me but he's a goat for helping me out
Go search the old messages xD
Nah he was so pissed at me all the time
This was me when I was pushing w4
anyone willing to do an account review on me, just entered W4 like 3 days ago and im already crying
That Dr is 
Bro fr went back to find it
probably do some more alchemy and stamps and keep pushing 
Let's see it
If u can handle the roast u can progress quicker in the game
Now it's do vault actually
But I'm not much of a pro so can't say much
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@toxic coyote i think my accounts better than you even in w3
probably
how far are new players able to get with vault purchases, if you've seen many 
idk its wild people are entering w5 with almost enough dmg to beat kruk
Time to put on a show
honestly the only reason why im W4 is cuz of vault
I mean at least it gives the new players some hope
theyre talm bt some dmg upgrades when they have 10m dmg in w4
yeaa..
Can u see others profiles on it?
I haven't seen too much of that yet, some with more damage (one guy with only 1m and candied to boss
)
Cuz ppl usually send their ie not it so idk much abt it
uhhh im not sure
Try sending ur ie cuz idk how to check it sorry😭
its kinda the same but just more stuff
I just went to data, and copied my link that's it 
i think this link is just broken
How to see his tho
i think you have to publish your account
Oh really
ah
how publish
i think
upload bruh
same thing bud
yea it works now
I am not ready for vman
and my account avg is pretty bad
Being in w4, it should be possible to get a void coin.
So they can pretty much buy most of the bonuses
U should still get it tho
525 rn
Getting jman is easy
getting tools is what im afraid of
wur
What world are u in
w4
like getting all tools for vman
Hard focus on printing
I like narrowly craft every tool, so I barely have any leftovers for the next
i keep saying this but just go through every tab in IT and work on it
3d printer fixes that
im waiting for W5 barrels for better multi-bar
doesnt matter just shove ores in and also buy some forge upgrades
you can always mine/print more ores
uh, I hate to say, but my min eff is in the trash can
my forge is prob faster than my copper afk
you can def work on clickers way more
what megafeather is good enough
Nah I'm gonna sleep
and ig ill do roo more
Nah mate I got to work
18 total 🙂
Only thing i see that he needs to work on is his bubbles
shessh
It's 10:30 Am here
rip my liquid cap and my prints
did we skip over w1
Can he do 2min claims?
Gold or plat tools be more than enough
i think he has a negative kph
what even is a 2min claim

dont leave orange and blue salts at 0%
youre just salt locking yourself if you continue
im waiting for red salt rank up, cuz my red salts isnt catching up with orange to begin with
kinda screwed myself there already
yea if you keep ranking everything up equally then youll always have no excess red
I meant turning off if I cant do a certain salt
like currently my orange and blue are idle
i mean autorefining it at 10%
ah okok
you dont have to shut it completely unless you need red salts but dont let the orange and blue rank up again
gotchua
worship**
my td is bad as a result of my build rate being bad
it's just a chain of problems 
i wouldnt try ulnocking kraken
iw ould level up boulder to 20+
if you cant do boulder do pulse mage
you can get decent waves with just pulse mage
i would def try rushing 7th character and getting a 2nd dk
ofc after you finish elites and all but still
so how difficult are the 4 contracts to get from Yondergreens quest?
i heard all of that trees quests were kinda hard
yea
im probably gonna only do the quest once... on Vman obv
oh god... Odd dmg in a row... how
td
?
Do the crystal skulls on the dumb rift stuff vanish after a bit? I had multiple enemies with crystal skulls, only for them to vanish after a bit
thats gonna be fun
Managed to get one character done with rift 42 in about 7 minutes, and now I'm on an hour and a half on the other character, mobs keep turning invisible, and skulls vanish
Go to any tower defence. Attack an enemy 8 times. Then go back to the quest NPC without fighting anyone else
Your damage is fixed to 1 point
And you need to be in the tower defence mode
is this good enough to win?
do you not have alchemic unlocked
like we told you last time, try and find out
we cant tell you everything, its RNG. at some point you need to just give it a go
well it might not work if he has alchemic
alchemic just adds more RNG, it can still work
i do have alchemic
im just dying in 1st run the stick keeps dying
are you charging up the abilities first to full before running it
i didnt try that xD did that for shield tho
brother what
turn auto ability off and keep doing it till they all charged then turn auto and try it again
k
the refillers should let mono keep time locking
ok all charged now
its just rng now
died uhh
is mono not proccing or sum
it is but all shields not reaching on time for rattler
Js use autoreview setup
Manually defend from first attacks early
almost done oooof it died i just needed 1 more survive
use the one if you have alchemic and flashy that i put above
Peapod, ratler, looter, defender 2 refills
now maybe this will work
i dont have peapod yet
does that work for all territories
Then unlock
ive been looking for the peapod build
Yes
mono just takes too god damn long
i lowk stopped using autoreview after only doing statues for the past month or two
its working
I did this territory with setup I told you
Killed it fast enough
Js unlock peapod, should be easy af for u
its te next w4 pet
ill do it with this atm ill later unlock it and do the last one with peapod ig
Like u have higher summoning than me but not breeding, damn
its all about focus i need to work on breeding
Peapod is easy 4 last territories
i went on a generational run and got 11 new pets in one sitting
Meme bean said trasher better than defender, but I didnt try it personally
Dear god I pray for the downfall of everything after waiting two days to gain two pixels of lining in the lab 🙏🏿🙏🏿🙏🏿🙏🏿🙏🏿
Felt 😭
currently on 300 gems, do i buy ivory cauldron (which i have 0/4)
or the kitchen upgrade? or should i just save up for liquid upgrade?
what should I use bubonic conjouror?
For wha?
in general. finally got my second tier 3 class
Cauldron
Active bubo before tentacle 200 isn't gonna compete well against the other elites
tentacle?
It’s a money maker in long term and alchemy runs the game so yeah
Shaman talent.
so just have them keep working alchemy
There’s a video on yt somewhere of a guy explaining why he can make money fast but it requires to be active 24/7
guys do i need to fricking wait 20 hour to just go to the mushroom map??
?
The hell you talking about?
how long do i have to wait?
math is mathing
i cant wait to have elite classes
But brain ain’t braining
15min, lol
thank you
How does obtaining elites related to breeding
can't leave town until you finish the tutorial iirc
cant leave town without completing quests first
Oh mb
because bobo doesnt let me go
That’s a good question that even I don’t know
gobo
Just wait a couple of minutes
Yuh
if you got more eggs, can probably put more pets in it
put the squir in the box,thanks
Js do what is required
so it can go faster
PS: always spend eggs, breeding is a hugely timegated skill
well, until you get rarity of the egg
Nah you should be doing sit ups while waiting
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That’s fine I believe look a the quest helper for the main task
15 minutes in the kitchen and make a recipe is all you need
when am i able to mega crit on clammies for constellation? can i whenever but just have a much lower chance the less crit I have or do i need so much?
what's the best way to level cooking?
When you have this star talent (from dungeon) and over 100% crit
ahhh ok thank you i forgot about it!! that makes snese
What pet setup can I run to beat calamity clammies? I bricked the one on google docs by unlocking alchemist
unlocking alch isn't an auto brick, just a bit more rng (and can easily be bypassed with higher pet power)
Is there some secret to leveling skills on Jman? I feel like the exp is so SLOW 😕
It keeps messing up cause all my bones turn into skulls or something 😦 and I dont think I can get much higher thank 40k power
Increase efficiency and go to highest node possible with 100% hit rate
40k should be plenty for that. believe in the rng 
Candy
Do your daily crystals on him when hes maestro to lower skill exp needed for levels
I’ll keep trying the looter setup then I just wish there was something more stable
!guide i think there's another setup in here
Mid-Late Game guide for World 3 / 4 / 5:
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/e/2PACX-1vSCepYAs6sNDP4iq6MJNAG1pvFXzfC_3IQ7ttt5vfEEKAgQhIk4cQqnLRyeH6UyqDSuP4R-6WQeDmmP/pubhtml
Video Guides (by GriffyBit):
https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLVGSDQs1AcvjYTAPtYV6ofbeeEfHpEcb4
Check autoreview for setups
Scoli
The whole reason I need skill ups is to get to that point, not Maestro
Ah makes sense
balloons 
Need to bump up my efficency a bit more than I can use the toliet roll tree for decent gains, right now my hit rate is kind of crap
Dont get confused with autoreview setups, it shows setups that fits for spices shown above and I think depends on what pets u have unlocked
what should my 7th class be
Maestro or any other 2nds.
I just made a rank 10 ribbon, would you guys go any higher?
!gear
Is there a generally acceptable point to "stop" shiny leveling?
I'm thinking 16.3k days is a pretty strong breakpoint, when you have 20+ it's about a day or so to get up that high....
I think every 5 levels is a good place to get other shinys up to level of similar levels.
is the only way to get pure opal is by waiting for rotation in spinner? seems like i can't even buy it from gemstore
the 3 new lab nodes unlocked from sneaking?
the gemstone one, yeah
yeah pure opal are unlocked from w6
you can get them from 700, 1400, and 2100 lab levels
oh, from lvs too okay
its how everyone will get them, as buying them takes way too long
get one free every 700 level
is rex / upgraded rex just the best option for both skilling and combat at this point?
im nowhere near class level 150 for that xD
how does the upgrade vault work?
only 1 char?
why cant i see in other ones only last char of mine
doesnt work
should journeyman classes use fisticufs as weapon?
yes
cause of the upgrade vault it's over halfway w2 without any items 😁
should i do funny things outside of my pusher and then log into him so that he gets some boosts?
If you achieve bigger number that way yes if not no

ok
also
i forgot
yippee
bruh i got a chef ring
welp "just" 50k left at choccies
welp we do a little active afk
does luck effect a lot in skilling exp ?
!merit4
1️⃣ Buy one point of spice spillage. This gives you up to a 20% chance to claim all your spices when claiming over an hour of afk gains. Since spices generate more slowly the more you have produced since last claim this will improve spice production.
2️⃣ Having more bubbles get upgraded each day will help a lot, especially when combined with buffs giving more levels per bubble. Only buy this if you can reach the No Bubble Left Behind node in the lab.
3️⃣ Egg capacity is limited and every time the hatchery fills up eggs are wasted until you unlock the rarity upgrade. Also helps you get two achievements with good rewards requiring egg capacity.
4️⃣ Allows you to connect to lab bonuses from slightly farther away which can reduce the number of characters needed in the lab. Note that the max distance between characters, which is called line width, doesn't increase.
5️⃣ Improves kills per hour in W4 but since you likely won't be pushing W4 portals for long this is relatively low priority.
6️⃣ Max level spice spillage triggers every time. They are lower priority since it takes a lot of star talent points and is likely to trigger several times in a row when checking multiple characters.
7️⃣ 3 crystal mobs per day is very little.
Unlocks the recipes for troll armor giving all stat% and the base for all further armor upgrades. It is great but require plenty of Nullo Salt. Don't buy it if you can't craft them.
read the 4th
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shut up lava, you are getting annoying
any tips? qwq
thats my strat but i know its not the best
thats wild w
there is probably a better solution but it kinda works lol
whats the next one?
Dont have the next one unlocked yet
if you only want the last one but some Tsar units above
could put nuke?
put a nuke
yeah tsar*
I want em all tho
then jus
oh it works
wait for one to finish
nono i got all em meals i just want the spices xD
At what point can you get a 3rd talent setup?
never
is ur blooming axe maxed
skilling and fighting setup is all we need 
Would be nice to have my two choppers with their specialised skills setup too
well shaman tab 2 is chopping, tab 3 is alchemy
same for wizard tab 2 chopping tab 3 worship
its not like they overlap
gotta max it, it will help for sure.
unless you want to get the talent in tab 3 that gives talent points in tab 2 but yeah
I’ve currently got all tab 3 in extra tab 2 points tho yeah
I cant max wc perks even with that yet
on shaman you could proly just get bubble breakthrougu and busy brewing
wizard proly sooouls and nearby outlet
others talent can be ignored for now imo
Fair enough, I need to grind levels for my characters to actually get a shaman, 300 feels so steep for 6th
things will come eventually don't worry
Yeah, just kinda messed up not getting a shaman in first 5 it feels

Something going on with frigid soul totem? I can't collect from it
Is your wave lower than 10?
If yes, it's visual glitch and they don't exist
ohh thats the reason
Probably why, I haven't beaten past 10 yet on any character
Well, up boulder a bit more and reattempt, frosty is a slight progression lock
The mobs that stuns gets on my nerves on that frosy totem
Consider upgrading starting worship pts stamp and vials so you can spam 4-6 boulder rollers, which should be enough
A kraken/party starter would help quite a bit too, kraken would be easier than party starter since you'll need that at lvl 5 before it does anything
This update is a joke ,i made it to W3 in this gear
You may also consider putting a boulder roller at the front so it breaks up the wave a little
Back in my days there was no such things
Need to revise gear sheet
Didnt even need to specialize and didnt create other caracters because of boredom
Ok maybe two
yeah void and poisen are prob like 1m build req
Kraken is essential, poison and void not really for early td, at least for my stage
i'm confsued - i have rift infinate star signs unlocked, and got squirrel shiny today, but don't have any extra infinate stars, am i missing something?
That was personal...
i think the case is that they are always ON (the stars which have the infinity emblem on it)
yes, i have 5 with the infinite symbol, i was expecting two more infinite symbols to appear with the pet
What lab level would my 8 chars need to be at to accomplish this setup? #midgame-chat-w3🧊w4🔮 message Assuming I have all the connection range bonuses.
apparently i wasn't on the latest build of the game, maybe a cloudsave/relaod will fix
you get more with shiny opets in breeding
yes, 5 from rift, then +2 from squirrel; restarting the game made them appear
why dont my nutto and walking stick kills go past 1m kills? Everything else works but those 2
on where? deathnote? card kill count? afk gains?
You didn't kill enough?
ive been on 967k for the past day
Guys how does the 3D printer thing work? On some characters its a gold star , on some its purple icon.
hasnt gone up even though ive afkd there for 3 hour
when did you last restart the game? it may be a sync issue
just loaded it up today to check on it didnt go up either
What's your kph?
only 9k on nuttos but walking sticks are at 250k
Its just a visual bug? It doesn't matter if it goes between purple/yellow im stilling getting x6?
That's some weird kph but umm, idk
is there not supposed to be only one nutto on the map?
I’m struggling with getting so many golden twine for troll armor, what should I do?
Lab node and hariep are both active. Its just that on some characters its shows purple on some its yellow not sure why
maybe cuz not everyone is on lab or on the god
That's the other nutto map, main is between wood mush and sticks
i hope you were on BB for doing the 1 nutto by the TD, it's extra zow if you get it to 100k 
those printer multiplier only works if that char is on the lab/god
I have doot active and whatever it is that lets me have lab active without sitting in it
if with doot its probably a visial bug
Alright thanks guys
what is that
trapper drone use the hunter eagle eye skill to collect traps?
iirc yeah
i always collect on the right character with skilling template selected to make sure i don't lose things, also the shiny prayer is pretty good too
I plan to make the presets for it later
right now I just want to quickly scroll through the mission series
!gear
no?
i have 1 premiumfier and dont know what to use it on
i think that would go well on my SB idk
oh depends since its just for cosmetics
it gives stat tho right?
is there a general cardset with all passive skilling cards unlocked? for sampling
i think the stone gives you the exact description for it iirc it doesnt give stats just pure cosmetics
the stone itself give that stats
it's just a giant that heals after a few seconds
it's a dps race
Vman grind begins
Meme thanks for the guidance I reached w6
np
Question how am I supposed to get knunchucks or whatever in sneaking in w6?
youll figure it out soon enough
definitely has nothing to do with the ? on every floor minus the first one
Hmmm
I used like 4 of those hour glasses but I didn't get anything exept jade coins
I was on floor 2 I am not dumb and I can't get jade coins on floor 1
thats the drop table
btw does floor 10 rift count candy?
cant use candy in the rift
Hmmm looks good
dont use nunchaku yet
No I didn't get one yet
yeah get sneaking lvl
I had like 2k+ I spend it on quick ref sneaking and upgrades
yeah thats how i spend too
btw how to get the sec char on sneaking?
do i get kunai first?
3rd floor
are dez ice weapons good?
yeah opened
theyre good, IF you can get them
what are the recipies?
tbh pretty cheap
Also im planning to get my Journeyman on my 8th char is that good? should i get it earlier or later around 10
is red dust cheap for early w3?
as long as you dont fuck up ur refinery yeah
pretty cheap tho just the 70k craft needs a bunch of pouches
asap for jman is good to start pushing those skills
ehh i got 2dk at 5, 7
yapper bean woke up
2nd dk is normally 8th so thats fine
Huh
lava cant stop yapping
idk i got that when i got to the genie demons and thats the same as in the tutorial
do i need shiny pets for infinite star signs?
how to get shiny pets tho
oof no
when u get 1 u will have this
ahh
how do I update my acc on pinchy autoreview? it keeps showing old stuff(I play on steam)
I don't wanna take a guess why I am loosing can I know is there anything I need to do other then placing those slimes
Can you help me
try to get the slime to their finish line
classic tower defense
I am not able to do that those pigs are just swarming me
Won't I loose?
If they come to mine
just spam there as fast as you can
you have more healt
Hmmm I try
you can always try tommorow too
u need to get better
get this 1 atk upgrade and kill these 2hp enemies
its not this after all
(this is easy)
How do I place a trap?
go the a map where critters are located and go there with trap equiped in ur tool slot it will show something at the top right or left i forgot which
My quest says place a trap in the jungle and I'm at the slimes and I cant
Yea sometimes it does that
Try standing on the platform where the critters are at
Idk where they are
It says slimes 
let me show u in 1 minute
hi, where can i find the rooted soul??
U know the big tree in slimes
If u go in his hole there's another thing down there
oh
oooh
Then yea u get the souls
goood damn it
see the frogs
it makes sense
u place there
I don't see them
root
then do the w3 quest
thanks
n unlock trap/equip it
I have it on but they don't show that's what I'm not understanding
cloudsave
K
make sure ur character is standing in that area
Still nothing
have u equiped it?
its the first ever critter

i remember having the same problem but i forgot how i resolve it
never had that problem
I fixed it
or you can buy 1hp from shop that cost 75gems
I ain't no rich or got any gems
have you gotten the gems from idleskilling?

idleshitting
does bits gaming 2x if i have 2 dk?
whats the most efficient way to farm gfoods?
no i dont think so
so only 1 dk gets the bits bonus?
ahh yeah
how about divinity?
does 2 es give double amount of divine exp/points from polithism
no. any talent that gives an x% or x amount of extra points or whatever for any skill, only counts for one of the classes
ahh okay
same way that if you have 2 bbs, the schows only count for one of them
thank you
however exp% talents for example with cons exp bonus on dk talents, does count individually, so make sure you do upgrade those
higher dr and using dk
extra talent point talents feel solid on their own but after getting rift slug it feels like i got all the god damn infinity stones
leads me to ask, is the extra vman talent point skill worth investing into early?
im currently burning maestro points on crap i dont particularly need at the time
i think u just need to level your maestro skilling if u are talking about left hand and right hand
thanks so much
im talking about my main attacking set, im putting off left/right on that set for now because nobody is currently skilling. trying to get my 9th character asap