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yes and read what I just said
lava added a standalone 30% afk gain buff
yup
Vault give 30 on top
yeah
The first 30 was passive
doesn't change the fact that they have pack items
but i still have 120 or so
they will obviously have more kph then you for now
not by 3.5x
you underestimate what packs can do
Have you sent an image?
of what
also you do not know which char they're pushing
Your afk screen
for all you could know that's their 10th
he said later that the barb is the pusher
iirc
even more evidence that he has pack items~ and a good majority of em
mk while pushing their first elite?
(also barb has a multi to afk gains via monster decimator)
barb is THE best afk class
I had it. Granted i pushed extremely late
yes and your bb was built really wrong
false
Speed and attack talents do a lot for afk gains
he wasnt built at all
don't compare your account to someone who has paid items unless you have said paid items
they also likely have deathbloom pendant
oh yeha i forgot i did this
Hell, they could have kill rings
yeah
some dumbass said that i should put points into beefy bottles
we don't know their actual gear, all we do know is that they have paid for some packs
that's what talent reset potions are for
how does time work in idleon?
1 second here is 1 second there, removing all lag frames
...uh
cloud save resyncs time
wait
that's the tldr
im finally level 80 on my main character
for example:
i have a guy killing to unlock portal but before i claim his gains i go and put all my lab characters on killer's brightside
would that affect it or not
shouldnt i push with my es tho
Most bonuses take effect when returning, yes
that won't work as you snapshotted the kph when you logged off the char
You sure?
it happens after the afk gains for updates to the afk menu
I always switch chips before coming back
and you're losing a lot of gains
so if i do it in reverse order it would stay the same?
reverse order and it should work yeah
hm
as long as you DO NOT reroll the gains anyways
16 points
how do i use the points :(
What is considered a good damage for the begimming of w4
depends what you need
100k damage on main
atleast 1 trillion smh
wait i wonder
is that even possible
yes
i mean in early w4
someone in w3 rn has 200m max damage
I have max 170k on my main and i think it is not enough
and theyve had w3 for like 1-2 weeks now
it's acc and surv that's ur issue
ok imma just put into meteor ig
as long as you equip attack talents to the bar, ur afk kph is insane
mine?
I hate those lava skull rift missions๐so hard to get...any tips?...target is rift 21
don't use dk and it's free
boy do i have something for you
^
Should i try rushing w5 or stay a bit more in w4 to upgrade
get all elites then rush w5
you can try but youll fail
well all but vman
What box and duration is optimal for shinies owles
Thanks good sir
very few people fail
vman w4 time
i mean without upgrading
only those who ignore shite fail
dank is the biggest yapper in the whole discord
calm down
i am not having this stupid argument in two discords in one day
Im seeing a pattern
Vault upgrades are so good
shut up

What box and duration is optimal for shinies owles?
does anyone know if happy doggy does anything?
if i dont get custard or slug ill be very sad
Probably placeholder for companions rework
YES SLUG
I GOT SLUG YESSSSS
this is
insane
my last pet was doot and this time i got rift slug
Dang
i am the luckiest guy in this server i bet
someone here got 2 doots in a row
I don't have a frog
ik I got 2 doots in 4 pulls
well you see that not lucky
And I'm on last candy
because doot couldnt stack even if you wanted him to
no froge for you
As
What box and duration is optimal for shinies owles?
have a guess what's happening soon
Aw
if stackable pets come ill kill lava
and one of them just so happens to be tradable due to a certain beach pack that I got for 80p
i have gotten like 4 rams in a row
due to lots of vouchers
and hypothetically speaking, if new pets come out
I can just trade a doot for the next highest tier
purely hypothetical ofc
:3
What box and duration is optimal for shinies owles ?
depends on the traps you have
Royal traps is the best
I have all traps
silk skin is likely best you got though
oh yeah
then any trap that gives critters and is 20 mins
if you have 100% chance for shinies
if you can check every 20m, get 20min traps else, whichever timer you can or want else I'd say
how did my survivabiltiy go down
cause it's es
please elaborate
Thanks
I think ima ignore the deto sheeps to mid w5 cuz opening that portal is gonna take a week or month
it takes a day mid w4
yeah that takes ab a day
should be able to get 10k kph on that map with bb pretty easily
esp with vault
you're barely early w4
Doesn't this say 2nd and 4th is a food slot? I never got food slot
I can tell by the level
I just did my 4th purchase
Thats why i said mid w5
you did get a food slot, you have 4 now
cloudsave 
No I didnt
should i really leave just the squire on the board?
by then you're getting 1mill kills on all w1-3 maps
yes
for vman
Oh
I still have the same number of food slots I had before buying the thing
did you cloud save 
you can only get 4 without the thing
Idk if push to w5 or wait getting bonus of each thing
so...uhhh yeah
I'd get w5 first anyways
I am telling you it didn't work.
Ok time to push with dk
I bought food slots with gems from the limited bonus
well with that you can max get 4

base food slots is 2, gem food slots is 2, and merit food slots is 2
meaning you have at least 1 merit food slot and likely havent done as acecow said
Can you please like not reply with a ping each time? It's super annoying
some people like higlighted text yk
I literally just got done asking not to do that
just
I'll try not to but it'll happen
dnd is great yeah
still does get notifs sometimes though
All you have to do is click this..is not hard. I'm not going offline just because yall can't figure out how to go ping others when asked.
yes and 99% of people don't mind it so I won't do it for everyone until they say they mind it
ik I actually prefer it as I tab out a lot
Yes and I made mention yet still being done
yes and thus I didnt
is death note account wide or per character?
account wide
you can also hold shift when hitting reply on PC 
#mobile
if it was per char then it would be dogshit
am on rimworld rn so no disc on laptop
nah it'd still be amazing
this is cool, thanks
not like deathnote is that hard to work on
reminder that t1 doot treat is a 0.3% chance iirc
3/1250
we don't know how many people is entering
Is there a way to get free rift teleports?
nope
f
14.4 gems
did you do 6k*winner amount?
no
need to factor that in
6k/415
If you press the button it'll show you
ew
oh shit
Whats the upgrade path from Amarok armor?
void chizoar troll smh
troll to kruk to godshard 
So after Amarok I should go for void?
dementia
well
one before void
yes and no
well
es no, any other class yes
boots exist
same goes for iron bands vs serrated rex rings fyi
Do you need to be on your hunter for trapping drone for best claims? Or does any character work?
okay
any char works
Sooo should I recraft amarok armor and apply w4 stones?
yes
no after amarok you yeet it to the void 
don't do total
wait
as different pieces has different amounts
21 slots
you need to do it on an armour piece by armour piece basis
only head has 1 more than the others
yes and I'm not talking only amarok
if you compare it to any armour, you need to take that into account
it's not like there's a set bonus
that's basic maths
it's a bit raw
stats from amarok armor alone
14 str wis agi
4 luk
73 def
+3% def
3 wp
ive gotten my first elite in the form of a BB should I leave him in the kitchen while my other chars catch up in levels?
stats from the stones
147 def
84 stat
nope not that either
just print em, shove him in lab
lab is a VERY important thing for w4 progress
makes more sense
thank you I still have a lot of doubts about w4 so this helps a lot
total amarok stats
98 main stat
14 boring stats
4 luk
220 def
+3% def
3 wp
guys how can i unlock the printer skill
do the ice cream quest
So do I have to push the 3d printer button manually for it to get the items? Aside from the assigned items in the 3d printer interface
stats from dementia armor
36 s/w/a
12 l
124 def
+16% def
press button, item gets sampled, go 3d printer, assign it
whenever you update your sample you need to reassign it as well
no, you just do it to sample
ok yeah
extra 13% defense is enough to justify the slightly worse flat def
wait...
yall are massive frauds
dementia armor is jsut objectively better than amarok (except for 3 wp)
this community has been gaslighting dementia armor fans for all of the time its been out
What do I need to do to make my library better
there is no fucking reason to use amarok armor other than being lazy
how do I use the talent book library? I built it to level 1
Armour Progression
Amarok >> Demetia >> Void >> Troll > Kruk >> Godshard (Marble for prints)
you know what
im gonna do soemthing radical
bro
platinum is better than amarok
yall have no excuse
stats sure, recipe wise more expensive
are you fr
if you want to waste time yes
2250 jellyfish isnt almost anything
it's the whole reason why lustre fecking sucks
the bars
fyi i got to w4 without armor
that's the power of healing food
750 bars is barely anything either
early on it is
no my barb jsut tanked it
either way telling uneducated people to use amarok over dementia is cope
with the vault, the bars may not be so bad, depending how quick you can push for it
i mean the vault only really boosts mining through talents no?
and by the time you want better armour, it's for the damage
forge cap
honestly I wish I didn't upgrade it
i need to smelt like multiple hundreds of thousands of ore
i have yet to test weapon craft
time to see what it does
oh yeah
severe lack of redox
and a severe amount of dementia causing me to forget to claim the salts before it got to enough to raise the rank
smh
there should be a way to claim without raising the rank
yeah, you dont claim it
but i need the salt for my mage weapon bruh
then set it at some %
does that claim without raising rank?
it only ranks up if the bar gets full and eventually says rank up
then set it at 10%, idk
Cycling through the percentages worked for me
do i rank up if my power / cycle is lower or higher again?
or turn it off while you fix your refinery
nah ym refinery is completely fine except for the lack of resources for orange and blue
neither are difficult to sustain tho
anyways i rank up when my power/cycle is lower right
blue is caused by a lack of orange
an orange by a lack of red
yeah my refinery was completely offline while i was taking a break lol
i have so many horns and logs and so much sand and fish (i have like no flies)
idk, resample stuff
ahem
ok ill just refine
3k red salt yayyyy
time to
man refinery ranks are such a ripoff
8 power per 11x the cost
it goes faster and faster
it just eats stuff faster and barely goes faster
my current rank cost 3000 power and the next costs 8000
for context i got 5 p/c and now i get 8
:)
dont you get free omni pops thru doot tho ๐
doot doesnt do anything unless u have div lvl 2 on someone

i think
last one lets goooo 
How long does it take for Slush and Mush to respawn
check IT
varies
anywhere a guide to the best setup for pet spice lineup?
time to
well time to fix my refinery ig
HMMM
I SURE WONDER HOW LAVA EXPECTS ME TO FIT 70K MELTY CUBES IN MY INVENTORY
how about you increased your carry capacity? 
bro
my carry cap for materials in slightly under 1k
so then you need to increase it like they said ๐
I'm sure you can fit 15k sticky sticks and 3 ice age 3
i had no clue sizable and big pouches were so easy to make

I CNA MAKE A LARGE MAT POUCH
ah I see, that's also Lava's fault
the pile keeps getting bigger
i think
yeah no ic ant lol
i have 5k cords
ughhhhhhhhh
i have 2 ice age 3s and 8k sticks
lavas fault
what do you need 70k for
gloves
uninflated glove
priorities 
oh
tho tbh the fist weapons are like the least important thing to spend resources on but yea ๐
bruh
i need my hit speed bro
the dungeons
think about the dungeons
I said what I said bruh, lol
wow chat guess my max damage hit ever
my guess is: 
99.9M
as in neck gear? yes but i didnt really care much until chizoar scarfs. otherwise it was fairly 'whatever I had;'
my slave bubo must be elated over the rift slug
now he can reach like 2.378 pixels farther
heh, still no rift slug here
wut...
isnt rift slug for max talent level
is it better to push with barbarian or squire?
just gives 25 to anything you give a single point to
squire if active
it's just +25
the talent that can give more portal kills doesnt work active?
except for symbols ofc
squire, not dk
it does work, they got confused vs elites
imagine if symbols got boosted by talent bossts
same dif since im assuming they havent gotten there yet, so push squire then turn him into DK then keep going
in w3, it's either active hunter or afk barb
no you get every elite first
dang, and im active on barb 
before pushing the rest of w4
well if you dont have any elite classes then it mainly depends who you are active on, barb has no respawn talents so is no better active vs not as far as progress
i mean on other characters
just get DB 
i dont even have my 6th character yet lmao
i rushed too fast to w3
no it isnt compounded
Hunter has a respawn talent
also don't assume people are w4
rift slug just gives extra talent points to any talent you put a point into
even vman? ๐
yes I know I already corrected that when they said they were w3
what about family guy doe
the very slow scaling talent?
the elite thing that boosts family bonus
yea not sure what you are asking exactly? like rift slug doesnt like compound with family guy or anything, rift slug isnt a family bonus its a flat increase
yeah the slow scaling talent
the only talents it doesn't work on is symbols, and 12/15 vman talents
so Hunter is the one to push w3?
it will give +25 to the family guy talent itself
its better than barb if you are active since they get respawn mechanic to get kills faster, yes
aight, imma just get some levels for the 6th character then ty
Once I have built a shrine to lvl1, how do I place it in a map?
ONLY if you active
use the star talent
there is a talent in star tab
i push active
I don't have anything in the star tab. Is it something I get from the main quest guy?
i wodner what that means
can you feel the free spice? ๐ฉ
btw all done
rn im at Bloque with barbarian 
does breaking the bank refresh the coin despawn timer?
wait this wouldnt work anyways
this talent is ass what was i thinking bruh
Holy crap that new vault mechanic just boosted my account tenfold
false
only your money
also can we talk about the fact that we CAN FINALLY SEE MONEY BOOST %
you should progress thru the game and you'd see money boost
How does the squire talent sharper saws work? The xp bonus doesn't seem to show anywhere
its not like you have a huge ass boost in lab btw
Man, I finally am earning a decent amount of gold
check in construction, click on your squires, they'll show xp/hr
when youre on the squire, youll see it inside construction
HOLY SCHMOLY
How much did that cost
all things considered the vault is easy to kinda max even for me
meme_Bank
most of the vault upgrades are surprisingly not very expensive aside from class xp
thats last upgrade i have left
Yeah but I'm a new player ๐ญ๐
wait all upgrades have caps or what
I wonder if class xp has a cap
yup
even damage?
even class xp does, at level 500
yup most cap at 200
somebody reached 500? ๐ or datamined
Where it says player xp bonus?
its what IT says
oh I see
Oh yeah, when do I unlock the next class upgrade for my characters
w4
oh shit IT was updated, didnt even realize it had vault
w4 like map...5?
Cool
map 4
for now
:/

lol I voted for shrine as well T_T
I guess casuals in w2 dont think either breeding or shrine xp is worth their vote
they get a 1.25x damage bonus for it
Oh i see where it says xp now, thanks. Does that talent work for all characters or only the squires that have it?
love me a damage bonus
squires only
yeah, the damage bonus is worth so much more than the xp 
or dont realize how absurd shrines scale in level requirements
Awesome thanks
yeah ๐ญ
I doubt they know of it
I don't think it states anywhere in game
the game tells you
oh 
when say a w5 bonus is there, and a w4 player exists, the ballot says you dont have access to this so get damage instead or smth
y did lava stop giving free limited specials
he does give em
hasnt done so for past few updates
but the specials only come with every other update basically
which is cause hes only done 1 update where he hasnt
he swaped em on DB release, and vault was the update after that
if i win the gems ill spend them all on arcade balls
do not

do yes
on average, each ball gives 0.1 gems
still 7 hours for people to enter
shh
I hope it'll be flooded
if we are done asking w3-4 questions lets move the chat onto gen chat now 
@ocean kayak try to focus on bonus construction xp% cogs, squires(later DKs) will have the biggest impact on your construction rate
Are there any guides for the tower defense stuff?
yeah, check !guide or pins
which vip book should i get hm
Sounds good, i will max those. It has to be in my active spec for the xp bonus to count right?
the passive one? yes
from:pancakex. guide
or #1277368276095336558
it wont work off your other preset
So i will want it in my combat skills as well?
Something tells me there wont be w8 classes
if you can fit it in, but I doubt that's likely
you can do it later when you'll have more talent points to spend
I see, thanks
zamn 88 max lvl on tiptoe quickness
well anyways how do i even increase my vip membership?
breeding and cooking
what is the best map to farm power statues
check w5 onyx farm guide for that, it's not that simple
DK at beans, aim for 8x dr and 1/100 crystal chance with choco chip first though
or this
more dr and lower crystal chance the better
those stats takes 30 hours of raw active
it's in this channel too 
man the library is so boring
oh
the guide masterlist shows it under w5 
I still burn through them regularly, I dont check daily though that isnt as 'optimal' used like 60 checkouts today
does the refinery work as alchemy that i have to press with each character for them to start "farming"?
though I still have more to go to raise my max talent so im not going too wild just yet
as long as refinery is 'on' it does something
and there are no character levels associated with it
oh ok ty im a bit lost cause i just unlocked it
how do i get radioactive barrels or whatever again
that picture from Roronoa is the most straightforward and helpful guide for refinery
w4mAP1
sorry, typo guess I should look at my screen when typing sometimes...
ok tysm
what
nothing happens if i don't have the materials and the refinery is on right?
isnt it w4 tho?
or i have to turn it off when i don't have stuff
it just wont generate salt
okok and when the power reaches max?
Then it will rank up the moment you refine
so it's better to wait at 50 ig tysm
its best to follow the infographic for a guide, you dont always want to get max and rank up
oh wow thats cool
For redox? Yes, for sure I'd say
my es has 15k accuracy now somehow?
vault gives accuracy?
not enough to 2.5x i think
maybe rift slugs doing idk
ok tyty
possible if you had some talent points in the acc stat
the infographic posted slightly above in the chat you mean?
yup
I JUST FAILED 10 W4 UPGRADE STONES IN A ROW
though red salt you can pretty much always rank up as long as you can support its cost, the rest you need to be careful on
yea that checks out ๐
ty awesome
oh yeah
iw anted to make w3 mage weapon
wow thats nice i wonder how i have exactly 56k tundra logs
i hate w4 weapon stones
i swear they need a bigger shop cap
YES
i got bonuscade
103 from it
there is a stamp for shop cap but some things dont really get much better
I'm on the tails hit the floor quest and accidentally hit w on the portal and the counter is sitting at 1535/1540, do I have to forfeit and retry or is it still counting my previous progress and I just need to find the remaining tiny spots
You could just forfeit to be fair
how much better is es at killroy than bb
is there a max book count? do books check out slower if you have more?
es has chainbolt, bb has detonation/combustion
Slower the more you have
they slow down the more you have, yes
how many skull do yall get from a single killroy run on average
what does the arcade stone thing mean
holy shit
this bonuscade run is insane
Anyone else having a problem where the sandy pot is invincible in the picnic quest?
havent encountered that yet
600 balls alr
although that questline tends to bug out sometimes
I donโt know what happened. It has worked the past couple days
600 balls from bonuscade
yeah it tends to get weird sometimes, for me it failed due to tp, even when I didnt
so yeah
king of food is a nice trophy tho 
Guess Iโll just wait until tomorrow and hope it fixes itself
this is an insane result from 66 balls
you can forfeit the quest and try again tho
does killroy sell special balls or what
I already forfeited 3 times
I JUST GOT Dementia sadly GEMS
worst take, but try verifying game files in steam, maybe even relog
dunno what the issue could be tho
Ehh Iโll just try tomorrow. Iโll do that if it doesnโt work
I hope it'll be fixed for tomorrow
Vial
Bruh I didnโt get bobjoe until I after I got to the last map in w6
yeah
i mean...
the chance is like 1/36k
which means youd have to use like 4 million balls
yeah not happening
I just got elite classes on every one, what should i do now with them?
Need help with shaman I'm at level 500 with my shaman still haven't figured out how to get multiple auspicious auras tried to look up YouTube videos on it but haven't been able to find anything pls help
Everyone on lab and push with DK?
yeah dk or es
what level is your tentacleye
Low don't laugh but 133
yeah, you want atleast 200
the cd reduction has a breakpoint there, changes from 2s to 3s
Level 500...Shaman....133 book level....?
get your library up my man
Thatโs not good
is 133 your max or you just haven't spent books since w3? 
I don't think bro did more than upgrading 4 levels of the salt lick
understatement 
133 is my max on that book


All my salts are upgraded I just didn't put any in that book I now know my mistake ๐
One more question you did get your elite class right?
and your books are stuck at 133 max lvl? 
I am very curious to see this lads ie
No ... I just never touched that book
Oh
Thank god
you are kindasorta contradicting yourself tho 
I hardly ever used Shaman until last week
He did say 133 is max on "that book(tent)"
The 'special kill' deference I have between DK, SB, and ES sure is a minor one.
We are the same
why does slush do more damage than mmush
Wait, you're right, he does. Weird. I guess maybe because slush is stationary while mush has a projectile?
Yeah, you aren't supposed to step on the slush pile
30mins till lab chip+jewel rotation 
30mins till I cry because too broke to buy chips
the rotation after this one is gonna be great, meal bonus increasing jewel 
I can't afford :<
I'll need to put a good team on starfield skies, probably doable
tbf current rotation is also nice, skill effi chip, egg incubation time jewel 
whats the best vman route?
check speedrun guide in #1084911530417606656
what is "No bubble left behind", and is it only in w4 merit shop? or are there other sources for it?
it's a lab node, the merit bonus won't work without it being lit up
8 cooking clogs per troll boot 
ES time
did es overnightand got enough twine
but i wont have the inventory space for the clogs
your inventory must be hella stacked if you cant fit 8 clogs 
oooo, do you have ram tho?
yea
so it's not a looting issue then 
does Flagging incesae consturtion level?
you get to place more cogs and cogs can give xp%, so yeah
construction level is impacted by construction xp cogs or creating cogs
just make sure you do the blocks that require the least amount to unlock
yeah you know already
nice, keep it up
me when the whale attack costs so much that i cant fucking cast it
thats fine just have as many people on cogs you can and start prio flaggy and xp% cogs.. once you fill the board with those two replace the flaggy with xp%
so to make Decent cogs i need lvl15
i cant do that with Flagging, i hvae to make more cogs?
lv 15 characters yea
you just get xp passively
yeah any character that has lvl15 construction
any besides squire/dk
dont waste them on cogs
wdym? waste on cogs?
your squires will give the most construction rate after a while
so you'll want to focus on cogs that give construction xp%
even better when they provide bonuses like build rate%
or flag rate, if you wanna speed up the flag process
yea youll get to a point where only your squires/divine knights will be on the board with everyone else on cogs
this is my board and you see how ive prioritized xp boost cogs and the ones that arent are boosting dk xp
do you plan on buying the other 4 cogs from gemshop at one point?
uh im not sure
im holding onto 3500 gems but there are prob other things i could get instead of 4 cogs for like 5000 gems
whats your call me bob lvl if you dont mind me asking
๐
yea..
me when im too lazy to print staches
maybe i should switch to that rq and get it to atom
shh i was busy printing other mats to get 27 maxed vials
yeah you could probably level it with atom if you can get it to 1000m on mage/archer
perhaps
Uh so I just pushed to w4 and I'm realizing increasingly I did it WAYYYY too early and I'm wondering what my acc should look like at this point?
theres never too early
if you js got w4 then you should be doing lab jail and getting elites rn
try getting enough accuracy for demon genies map, dont worry about the rest for now
that being keeping everyone in lab and having one character out a time pushing to genies
I don't have plat armour should I still be pushing elites? Or should I wait for getting better gear?
if you have the mats, try crafting 1-1-1 set of amarok and upgrade them with w4 stones
gear doesnt rly matter.. lava made it hella easy for early worlds cus of the upgrade vault
elite quest gives a nice amount of coins, you could invest that into your vault
yea
Oh! Is it that powerful? If it is ill just keep pushing to elites then
Thanks ill be sure to
you want your beast master, bubonic + blood barbarian asap
beast master for breeding, bubonic for lab and barbarian for kitchen(eventually)
yea i think i saw someone have their dmg go from 30k to several hundred thousand
Mhm I've been pushing with dk and using others to grind out better gear but I'll start pushing with everyone now
Dang that's crazy
push atleast until elite quest, DK or ES after that imo
they have the smoothest portal progression
which one is better
I progressed with DK cuz intervention is love
Thank you! I'll do that! Yall have been a huge help i have not been able to find anything really geared towards where I am on YouTube
ES wormholes are huge for early bubble progression tho
youll struggle with accu on dk but not survivability
but yea dont neglect es cus they will be the fastest way to get mob drops till you get vman in w5
Mhm mhm
nah the best upgrades in the upgrade vault for early is accu and def
but if you upgrade the warrior set on a mage with w4 stones, it'll give accuracy thru wisdom(w4 stones give mainstat)
Yeah I was planning on that
oh and if you have money, try to get your lab expansion tokens asap
can you guys explain what the lab jail is and when to do it
as soon as you get into w4
its timegated so the earlier you start the better
7 strung jewels and 3 pile of processor chips
your characters will stay in the lab forever
I've gotten the chips one just waiting for the jewels
ah nice 
Mhm (can't afford any of them tho)
i rushed to w4 so im trying to get some decent prints and elite classes and then i'll throw them in the lab
if you have got a few shrines from construction, make sure you place them in w4 town, they get xp through your characters sitting in lab
if you want yea
and eventually when you get to the shrine node in lab, they'll affect everyone in the same world you placed them in
Mhm that's a great tip ty
I'm guessing vault upgrades for mid/endgamers
Lava said he was planning to expand the vault
Would be cool
that's my guess
could be something entirely different
or maybe qol for different skills
we'll know when patch comes 
been 20 minutes and im sitting at 11 clogs
at this rate ill get all of them in 2 hours
what would be classified as mid game
Half w6 maybe?
after w6
isnโt that the last world tho?
gah dahm
True
wait thereโs more then 6 char?
10
yeah
10 rn
whatโs the max
when doing lab jail and getting elites, leave your jman out of lab and grind skills
Damn
theres an arrow at the bottom of the page
ohhhh
dont have him yet, i heard that it's good to get him as your 10th
idk ig meta changed but as long asyou end up with him it doesnt rly matter
get him as 7th-ish and get started on skilling with him
maestro will also boost your samples if you manage to have the highest w1-w3 skills on him 
some people like occido suggest 10th cus it doesnt rly provide much of a bonus till later worlds
Yeah not wrong but neither do the extra base classes i feel
help for spice
4 borgir, 3 tsars + 1 forager
higher blooming axe and use nukes if you need them
but just check top pin, it's right there
Getting to w6 probably gets you to mid/lategame depending on how rushed you are, dont listen to endgamers what qualifies as endgame because those people are insane
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as somebody who rushed to w6 i agree that that was the tutorial
early summoning gives crazy boosts tho 
you can get to w6 pretty quickly now if you know what youre doing
yea my dmg instantly went up to like 100m
is there a level xp calculator for skills?
wdym eh, if they manage to get a DB, they can skyrocket their crop database
just by allocating DB passives
Getting to DB takes a while if youโve rushed to w6 tbf
well, true
the first few w6 maps dont take much
depends how rushed I suppose
tbf theyre a massive step up from w5
Though now with the codex being added it is probably much easier than before
Idk man they took me quite a bit at the start
yea i saw the increased stats and i felt despair so i ignored all of my characters so they stayed at lv 80 or smth
i turned right around and worked on vman
then to complete the equinox dream and star sign i went active for a few hours and went to 250 or smth
ig im saying it with p2w items so it mightve been easier
When i just got to w6 i had to lvl up like 8 of my characters on some w5 maps because they didnt have the stats for the earlier mobs in w6 lmao
cobalt robe + timeless nametag ๐ ez damage
phoenix wings
slap on some phoenix wings, 
Probably helps a fair bit yeah, as an f2p except for autoloot it was a big step up
perfectly described my loadout
wish I could complete luckier lad cloud, my clouds are now cluttered with dungeon challenges ๐ญ
Only really managed to get through w6 quickly once i unrushed my account
whats that ring btw waffle
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Dungeon challenges are very easy if youโve done them a little bit i feel like
ive had the w2 dungeon one in there forever
I cant be bothered to do dungeons and I still miss the 5 maxed out flurbo stat cloud too ๐ญ
W2 dungeon sucks but surely its the easiest one to actually solo
arghh
wtf
is 299 or 300 the max talent book level?
thats as easy as afk when people carry
mainly because I'm usually put into a random ass group at hh and cant even manage to do phase4 ๐ญ
yeah, when they carry ๐ญ
yea how is that a problem
the stats are not bad either
If you do it solo (and have enough dungeon DR to get enough drops for the cauldron) bosses have lower HP btw
cuz im fairly sure i have everything to max book level and its at 299, and that just seems wrong i feel like it should be 300
So doing it in bigger groups kinda puts you at a disadvantage because you need more people to actually do stuff
my cards are abysmal for dungeons, dunno how well I could manage them in solo
Thereโs some youtube videos that explain what to build/go for with dungeon talents and they made it so i soloโd all dungeons in like an hour
I could probably try it again now with DB, infinite axes go brr
Think you need to be like r40 with dungeon to easily go for it
is rng voucher or horn build better
damn ๐ญ I shouldve done my research properly
you kinda get to hate it when your party is full of useless ppl
maybe dont party with useless people
exactly
thats why i always 3 or 4 q with people in this chat
I usually do genesis sphere (grey rng item X% likely to drop more grey rng item) + rng voucher
hm
Dont like the horn build because i dont see it often
i was able to clear w3 pretty easily with another person double horn
and i think he solo cleared w2 with horn
but rng voucher seems kinda op
if I do dungeons alone, does it still use a booster or I can disable that?
Whenever you get 1 rng voucher early you should be able to snowball all the way to easily beat last boss
still uses one

anyone know?
is there a skill level exp calculator
max talent book checkout is 299
Pretty sure it is 299 for now
I think it's 299 with endless summoning
nice guys
Dont believe so, gotta check it yourself to see whats best for you unfortunately
dang lava couldnt just add one more to make it 300
man of odd numbers
yeah like how the attack upgrades offset the upgrade vault unlocks by 3 so it looks ugly
once i get these clogs and some chao kruk ill have full kruk on everyone
kruk is tab4 or tab 5?
anvil?
youre like, one candy away
yea i didnt for a while cus i hadnt sampled anything above w3 for a while
well, yeah 
I dont think I'd profit by having it done rn
using chiz on everyone + lustre weapons mostly
i should craft my lustre stuff
coldseeker bullets would be nice tho 
wait theyre kinda cheap
what about boots for skilling boots?
gl