midgame-chat-w3🧊w4🔮

[sleek stone]

How to get so much souls tho

[rain scroll]

i need constellation points but constellations so hard bro @exotic swallow

[sleek stone]

Need frigid so bad to make es wep

[exotic swallow]

Naaa

Youll get them eventually

[atomic fable]

Idk if it's just me, but the island exploirer pack is on for me rn

[rain scroll]

i have almost all star signs inf but not unlocked em all 😦 esp some before ones are inf but locked so im missing free bonuses 😦

[exotic swallow]

U didnt do all w6 I am sure

[sleek stone]

Anything that boost souls gain?

[exotic swallow]

Playing the game

[rain scroll]

w6 starsigns hard

[exotic swallow]

Food

[rain scroll]

for doing them need to push all char to higher map

[sleek stone]

No kraken yet

Thats why its hard

[atomic fable]

Wait, I might have enough candy to push to boss room

[rain scroll]

voidinator makes it easy

[atomic fable]

so I'm moving everyone back to lab real quick

[sleek stone]

Yeah right

[exotic swallow]

Js 400- lab lvls left for 2.1k

[atomic fable]

I made it!

[halcyon tundra]

Yo how can i get the laval skull on a mob in rift it seems thats its impossible

[dense pine]

just dont full clear the map

what i did was just farm out the middle 3 platoforms on SB like 3 times, then kill all of bottom row, another 3 sets in middle and then top row

[exotic swallow]

Me: auto

[halcyon tundra]

oki tysm ill tryt it out 🙂

[atomic fable]

I got w5! GG

[dense pine]

gzgz

[dense pine]

if youre damage is too high youll just accidentally full clear 😭

[halcyon tundra]

am just usin DK and non auto

[dense pine]

yea that also works

[atomic fable]

So, what do I do with the lab?

[dense pine]

aslong as you dont full clear the map you should be able to do it, just might take a while since the skulls are 50%

[dense pine]

put people in there and get buffs

[exotic swallow]

Still got sneak mastery like that

[atomic fable]

I more meant now that I finished the w4 pushing

[halcyon tundra]

btw skulls are 50% is like if i get a silver skull and another one is also silver then its 50% chancce that i kill 1mob of grey skull and it will change to Next tire right?

[dense pine]

do divinity

[dense pine]

yea

[halcyon tundra]

tysm

[dense pine]

so a gold has a 50% chance to become a plat

plat 50% to become dem etc.

[halcyon tundra]

Lava will take lots of time xD

And laval once are the red once right?

[atomic fable]

So, now would be a good time to move shrines to w5?

[dense pine]

ye

[dense pine]

yea, do divi on everyone

sailing and gaming as well

[dense pine]

town specifically

[dense pine]

ive been getting insanely lucky with streaks from plat to lava on 1st try lmaooo

[halcyon tundra]

Lets see how my luck is xD

[halcyon ermine]

you probably dont need dementia armor anymore in w4 because of vault lol

just recraft amarok armor with w4 stones

[dense pine]

you didnt before this update either lol

[halcyon ermine]

damn

to be fair i got into w4 quite early so i was hella weak

makes sense

[raw inlet]

Can wormhole mobs drop rare drops? (woodular circle, glass shard, nuget cake, etc.)

[shadow lark]

yes, thats why you use ES for those

[raw inlet]

oh cool

So I should use ES for the manual nuget cake drop achievement?

[slim horizon]

I've got 7 days of candy and enough accuracy to finish w3. Should i use some candies to unlock quickly the new world ?

[shadow lark]

ye sure

[shadow lark]

you can yeah

[gleaming goblet]

Does amount of breedable pets in fence yards affects breed speed? Does 7 bloodbone provide more speed than one?

Same with their power, does 35k one is more efficient than 10k?

And does stuff like gene upgrades or breedability affect power od already unlocked pets, or only chance to unlock next one?

[zealous onyx]

multiple in yard, yes. breed power, i think yes. gene upgrades are for breedabilty, chance for next. cant confirm if it still improves power

[inland vine]

Hi, pls tell me where crabs trape?

[zealous onyx]

red one? fishing map left of w2 town

[inland vine]

There need 30 lvl fishing?

[zealous onyx]

no, the first map on the left w2 town portal, just under the rope

[inland vine]

Not have, but all need this red crabs

[zealous onyx]

if you want to trap red crabs you just have to stand on the platform where they walk

[inland vine]

I undstd, but not have crabs, mb quest for poison frog need done first (

[zealous onyx]

oh youre doing trapping quest? gl, check wiki for convenience

[worn raptor]

U r wrong

Need complete first hunter w3 quest for unlock next critters

[zealous onyx]

oh forgot bout that mb

[worn raptor]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/860619164968288287/1287283068327034900/beabeanpack.gif

[inland vine]

I done first quest and use trape one week, but poison frog don't drop((

[zealous onyx]

check your traps if it can drop shinies,

try to do lower timed traps too. some traps have diminishing returns

[inland vine]

I checked every day, but dropped just only frogs

I know, maybe just need more trapping

Okay bro thx for help

[zealous onyx]

there are traps that gives more shiny chance, use those for better chances

[deep wigeon]

for breeding, lets say i want a high power forager pet, does it matter if i pick a W1 or W2 forager or do they have same chance at being strong?

[exotic swallow]

If I had ability to transform myself to bean, I would take

[zealous onyx]

yes

i think the power depends on the bm skill and breeding lvl

[deep wigeon]

so dont matter wich world it from? or do matter?

[zealous onyx]

i think it doesnt, it still depends on the roll of power per egg crack

[vale cairn]

i thought i would finally make it to world 5 today but massive troll crashes whenever i hit him once

alas i try again another day

[zealous onyx]

as in game close?

[vale cairn]

game close on both mobile and pc too

[zealous onyx]

weird

[hushed mist]

lava 8 bloque party

[vague mica]

hey guys, quick question, what is the necklace for w4 called?

the one from the gear rec. on bot commands

[limber seal]

my maestro is level 112 and its taking ages to level up atp should i just focus on skilling

[exotic swallow]

Sure.

[zealous onyx]

forgot the name but are you referring to the dungeon neclace?

[exotic swallow]

Just progress ur account, it will be easier later.

[vague mica]

ohh thats it, ty! just found it on flurbo shop

[edgy leaf]

Knockout in upgrade vaultdoesn't seem to work for me?

[hoary pebble]

what issue are you having

[edgy leaf]

I keep killing green mushrooms with no weapon it's not updating

[exotic swallow]

It does, just small.

[edgy leaf]

Read the second thing I said

[exotic swallow]

Does it say u need to kill gmush?

[edgy leaf]

Yes

[exotic swallow]

cloudsave

And try again

[edgy leaf]

Look

[lunar jackal]

How do u unlock the vault

[exotic swallow]

I did it myself, worked for me.
Probably a bug, therefore try cloudsaving.

[lunar jackal]

Like when I go to quick ref i don’t have it

[muted crag]

Update the game?

[edgy leaf]

Automatically

[edgy leaf]

I tried it

Didn't work

[lunar jackal]

Alr did

is it on iOS yet

[muted crag]

Nope

[exotic swallow]

Are u sure u are not using any weapon?

[lunar jackal]

makes sense then

[edgy leaf]

Yes

[lunar jackal]

also what’s the best way to get accuracy

[exotic swallow]

Idk 🤷

[lunar jackal]

once u maxed out ur wis stat for warrior

[modern gate]

How to get crystal 4 days?

[edgy leaf]

Alchemy

[lunar jackal]

any specific bubbles?

[muted crag]

Shaquracy bubble
Using upgrade stone from w4+ with your mage

[exotic swallow]

Idk, worked fine for me.

[edgy leaf]

Shaquarcy

[lunar jackal]

I’m at bloques in w3

[edgy leaf]

Bruh

[exotic swallow]

Just shaquracy, stamps, owl I think......

[edgy leaf]

I need the bonus so bad

[exotic swallow]

Ehh

[edgy leaf]

What

[exotic swallow]

I am sure it didnt increase my dmg that much

[edgy leaf]

Wym

It's 7% dmg each knockout

[muted crag]

Yeah, it's additive

[exotic swallow]

And its additive

[edgy leaf]

Wym

[exotic swallow]

Therefore it sucks

[edgy leaf]

After upgrading stick snapping my dmg almost doubled

[muted crag]

You have 500% from one source, then 500% from other source, then +7% will make it from +1000% to +1007%

[full gull]

igot from 400k to 1m

dmg

[edgy leaf]

Ye

[muted crag]

You probably had lower other sources of dmg

[edgy leaf]

But still every little thing helps

Therefore it sucks that this but exicst

Exist*

[muted crag]

Tried on different character?

Maybe some vman bug

It's account-wise anyway

So you can do it on 1 char

[edgy leaf]

Oh ye

I only did it on vman

Guess what

It worked

[muted crag]

Nice! Now got get all that
Probably indeed some vman issue

[grim onyx]

What do I want for my 8th char if I have all elites and maestro?

[shadow lark]

second DK

[modern gate]

is crystal farming in w4 relevant?

[shadow lark]

not really

[grim onyx]

could it change with upcomming master classes?

[shadow lark]

no you still have 2 slots left

[indigo stratus]

if you want rare drops crystal farming is useful

[modern gate]

I mean, I got my journeyman rocked and loaded, I just need the crystals for days and the card star talent 🤷

[grim onyx]

ok perfect thanks

[shadow lark]

crystal farming is not a good use of your time without high dr, crystal chance and cookie

[indigo stratus]

You heard me

[shadow lark]

one more salt lick upgrade and i can lvl 200 tenteyecle

[modern gate]

Chat what should I do after I get elite classes for all my players?

[north root]

does the wormhole count in the portal kills and deathnote

[modern gate]

Should I go slow and steady and do whatever shit I want

[north root]

thanks for asking i also just unlocked all of them siege breaker left

[pearl sequoia]

At which refinery rank do things start really speeding up? I cannot remember if it is 22 or 23 where the capacity stops increasing but the speed continues on

I would check the wiki, but my work wifi does not like it for some reason

[modern gate]

Yeah my refinery is slow asf too

[north root]

same i dont even try for the blue salt

[sinful bolt]

23 is when it speeds up

[pearl sequoia]

ah, so once I upgrade from 22 to 23, things start speeding?

[sinful bolt]

it hits 1m power cap at 22, then stop growing after that

so yeah, it speeds up on 23

[pearl sequoia]

sweet

[twin bay]

if there isnt a max upgrade amount to upgrade vault and lava decided to not let you hold down to auto upgrade this is gonna be painful

[ebon kiln]

you can hold, and eveything has a max

[twin bay]

itsnot letting me, maybe cause im mobile also whats the max

[ebon kiln]

each is different mac

[twin bay]

dang bro u gotta hold it for so long

on sum mih startup orr sum bruh

[exotic swallow]

Back home

[twin bay]

hey bro

[exotic swallow]

hi sushi

[twin bay]

u see the new upd?

[exotic swallow]

slushi

yeah ik, he also nerfed boss farming

from 300 kills to 100

[twin bay]

oh

[exotic swallow]

but reverted random position of the button

[twin bay]

how?

it was random?

[exotic swallow]

it appeared randomly before

[twin bay]

i never even noticed

[exotic swallow]

yeah u didnt do boss prior update

[twin bay]

massive whirl is insane

[exotic swallow]

true

a lot of freebies

[twin bay]

i feel like im in an anime rpg game on roblox.. for, some reason

[exotic swallow]

[twin bay]

?

[exotic swallow]

nothing

[north root]

glitched out

[merry nacelle]

Can someone take a look and tell me how to progress breeding faster? https://idleontoolbox.com/?profile=BarbFarkor
I know it looks like crap, I''ve rushed W6 and now im slowly catching up with all mechanics.

[sinful bolt]

breeding is just a long timegated skill

[twin bay]

thats why i neglect it more than my future children

[sinful bolt]

unless you somehow get a lot of eggs

[ebon kiln]

basically talents 13 and 14 on bm

if you've finished arena you can take off the points from talent 11 I believe

[exotic swallow]

u should play the game more

[merry nacelle]

I know, but I still feel like I'm behind on where I should be, it holds my cooking and chips/jewels

[exotic swallow]

trust

[sinful bolt]

well, you did rush, so that expected

[ebon kiln]

you need to get to 90% printer sample size asap too

[exotic swallow]

if u rushed, don't expect to have right progression

[twin bay]

does happy doggy even do anything

im gonna max it out either way, but still

[ebon kiln]

makes the dog happy

[exotic swallow]

idk, I think nothing

[twin bay]

im def maxing it out

[exotic swallow]

its easy to max out anayway

[merry nacelle]

Yeah, I guess. I'm currently unlocking troll set, I'll gear my BM and farm, thanks guys ❤️

[twin bay]

i will waste all 30 of my lustre coins to mkae this dog happier

[ebon kiln]

sorting out your printer will make your life easier down the road

[west ibex]

will the vman cooking buff or any other buffs be gone if i change skill tab? im thinking is it worth to add skill points to the buffs in combat skill tab

[uneven obsidian]

yes, if you change skill preset and the skill as no point the buff is gone

[oak arch]

bro

this whole time i just now realized i could tap to use the other one. i've been struggling like crazy to find another shiny.. ffs

[uneven obsidian]

yeah..... that bit could be explained better

[steel nymph]

Did i do smt wrong

[oak arch]

i legit assumed it would automatically place the best trap i had...... god i hate it lmao

[uneven obsidian]

not all trap do the same thing, that why it doesnt auto select them

[oak arch]

also, does this also let me place better traps in other characters (even if they dont have it) or its only for my hunter

[warm valve]

Guys, when I level up shaquracy does the accuracy of all my characters increase?

[ebon kiln]

each chars traps will show up to what they can personally place, you can place them on one char though

[uneven obsidian]

it start with only for the character, when you unlock the trapper drone, hunter/vman can place for all

[exotic swallow]

itty bitty spider

[indigo stratus]

I'm just saying shit

[exotic swallow]

keep spitting shit

[indigo stratus]

Frfr

[north root]

new type of cogs with shit stats

[steel nymph]

[steel nymph]

Xp cogs?

[north root]

build cogs

[unique token]

I just unlocked building in W3. The tooltips say I should have a new star talent on tab 2, but I only have the normal ones. Any idea what I am missing? I've made the first rank of the yellow and red items (3d printer and wizard tower), but no idea how to use them.

Do I need to have a wizard or something to make it work?

[hoary pebble]

The 3d printer talent is a talent you equip on your attack bar, and then cast to sample.

The wizard towers are used in the tower defense minigames.

[azure raft]

does this mean the shrines can still level up

[shadow lark]

yes

[azure raft]

omg

nice

[exotic swallow]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1073944185532592209/1154102290626658304/togif.gif

[unique token]

I do not have a 3d printer talent that I can equip or level up. I can't seem to paste the snippet here to show

[hoary pebble]

Did you receive the star talent book from Hoggindaz's quest?

[latent bramble]

did you turn in the quest where he asked you to build the 3d printer?

[exotic swallow]

[unique token]

Thats what I was missing. Thanks everyone! I just got the book from the quest reward. I had made cogs, but not claimed them

So do I need to be AFK killing things, then come back, claim the afk rewards, then cast the ability?

[hoary pebble]

No

[latent bramble]

no, just go to the map and use it

[fierce jewel]

which ring and pendant are best for sampling?

[azure raft]

i tried it its not true

[pine fiber]

there is a sampling guide in #1084911530417606656

[shadow lark]

?

[true hamlet]

zp stopwatch I think?

[azure raft]

i logged into a charcter then checked the shrine didnt have 60 hours it had 0 cuz i placed it juts now

[shadow lark]

Well yes

[azure raft]

no problem tho not a big deal

[shadow lark]

of course the xp gets reset if you move the shrine

[true hamlet]

Yes, you need to barter with the shrines before they don't lose xp

[azure raft]

i moved shrine then logged on

[latent bramble]

The shrine was in the town of the world you claimed afk hours in?

[azure raft]

yes

[latent bramble]

And your lab bonus was lit up when you claimed?

[slim horizon]

Is there a way to get more w4 upgrade stones than the first shop ?

[pine fiber]

stamp

[azure raft]

well

[shadow lark]

every day

[true hamlet]

Colo I think?

[slim horizon]

i'll give it a try

[azure raft]

@latent bramble @shadow lark You guys are right i made a mistake

[zenith hare]

rare time someone admits it and doesn't fly into a rage

[inner sail]

should i be trying to upgrade to lustre armour or chizor?

[zenith hare]

chiz

overall lustre armour is actually really terrible

very expensive for small stats

[true hamlet]

Chizoar for dmg, lustre for defense.. dmg>defense too

[civic blade]

is there any way to reduce this power req ?

[zenith hare]

the top pin

[fiery fulcrum]

is there any sort of vman speedrun checklist i can look through to make sure my setup is optimal?

[deep wigeon]

is there any reason to get breedability on pets that arent the last u have unlocked in the line?

[zenith hare]

not really, but it's similar to a sample checklist

for areas of the game you need to change anyways

[civic blade]

who is pin ?

[zenith hare]

not really

[zenith hare]

#midgame-chat-w3🧊w4🔮 message

pins are messaged that are saved in the channel

middle option on mobile, and on pc it looks like...well a pin image

[unique token]

where can I access the prayers that I unlock through worship level?

[fiery fulcrum]

to the left of the shop in the w3 town, below it

the big pointy stone

[unique token]

Do yall typically have a single character devoted to the tower defense game?

[quasi tiger]

doesn't matter too much at later levels but early on archer is best because you can use the kick talent to shove enemies back if you have one slip through

[latent bramble]

BM becomes the go-to later on

[shadow lark]

all of them should level their worship

[pine fiber]

if by devoted you mean 1 character to progress with the TD game itself, yes, hunter

[slim horizon]

On my pushing character (squire), Should I use my upgrade stones with him holding the weapon or with a mage for accuracy ?

[unique token]

Thank you for all the answers! Last question, does luck affect AFK skill gains? I am trying to unlock anvil tab 3 and need 2k broach. I have the accessories setup to focus on depth, but I also have a lot of spare warrior talents and already maxed the fishing, str, and afk gain talents

[shadow lark]

likely your mage, squire wants a lot of accuracy

although if youre w3 it doesnt matter

upgrade stones dont give main stat before w4

[slim horizon]

Just reached w4 but haven't completed the quest to fight there x)

i'm locked at cooking

I think i used the laddles too early f

[pine fiber]

that requires you to spend 15mins in afk, thats it

[shadow lark]

just log to a different character while afking in the kitchen

[slim horizon]

i'll try that

[raw raptor]

For construction in the bottom is the total build rate split across multiple builds? If I put 2 items to build is the time doubled

[true hamlet]

Nope, build rate per slot

[raw raptor]

thx

[alpine moat]

does the giant eye quest need to be done actively or can I just afk it?

[latent bramble]

giants are active only

[dapper sparrow]

Giant monsters only spawn while active

[shadow lark]

theres no giant spawns in afk

[alpine moat]

oof ok

how rare are they?

[indigo stratus]

[true hamlet]

Check stats

[alpine moat]

also is the upgrade vault a new thing? Or does it unlock itself once you pass a certain threshold?

[uneven obsidian]

equip the prayer and you'll see a line like this in the character stats telling you your odds

[true hamlet]

New

[alpine moat]

gotcha it's insane it's catapulting me up rn lol

[uneven obsidian]

well with the amount of world, it make sense that lava introduce ways to speed up early game

some of those boost are still nice for the late game ppl tho

[alpine moat]

so I just unlocked world 4 and I have some gems to spend

what should I be upgrading?

[uneven obsidian]

1 kitchen

[chilly spear]

what does afking in cooking actually do?

[uneven obsidian]

lvl up cooking skill and give you laddle

[chilly spear]

oh ty, i got two chef rings and i was unsure if they were useful

any particular class i should afk it with?

[uneven obsidian]

they are, but initially afking in the kitchen isnt worth it cuz laddle per day is too smol

BB is the cook

[chilly spear]

ive been dumping every balloon ive got in the last 3 days into the wrong class then

[uneven obsidian]

cooking skill doesnt affect anything really

[chilly spear]

im trying to hit 150 on maestro asap so i dont gotta worry about it so thats who's highest in cooking unfortunately

[alpine moat]

just one?

[chilly spear]

how valuable are lab shoes/rings early world 4?

[uneven obsidian]

yeah since the first one will aways be the easiest one to upgrade

[chilly spear]

i have like 5 shoes and 2 rings

[uneven obsidian]

can help you a bit, but wont do much either since you dont have a good chunk of the buff to exp/eff for lab

[cold falcon]

anyone knows what's the max lvl for major discount(in the vault)

[pine fiber]

stops at 80%

[cold falcon]

thanks o7

[pine fiber]

[cold falcon]

also have question regarding owl: do you lose all your feather restart bonuses after mega reset?

[pine fiber]

you mean the orion bonuses?

you lose everything except that

[cold falcon]

no, feather restart(restart that gives you x3/x9/... feathers)

[pine fiber]

ah yeah you start from scratch after mega

[uneven obsidian]

well any reset really

but lava did just speed up owl with vault

[cold falcon]

aight, gotcha. I'm just confused, that ieautoreview shows stuff for MF1, when I already have MF2

[uneven obsidian]

make sure to copy your json after forcing a cloudsave

[sly steppe]

i could be sitting all day clicking upgrades without a break because of this

[uneven obsidian]

it will still slow dont once last feather get to like 10 or so

[crude tulip]

Is there any trick to getting lots of Trapping XP? I'm struggling to get to level 120 for godshard traps. I'm setting natural traps on Maestro with infusion active, XP cards, starsigns and prayers.

[uneven obsidian]

beside using ballon, thats about all we can do

[zenith hare]

yes

[zenith hare]

I'm only at 100 or so rn

[crude tulip]

Yea, same. Highest one is Maestro with 104

[zenith hare]

I think the trapping big bubble scales xp maybe?

the one that gives efficiency

doesn't harm to do a before and after

[uneven obsidian]

no call me ash is only eff

green bubble are the only one that dont have +skill exp bubble

[zenith hare]

does eff not scale xp?

for trapping

how tf did Ludwig get 120 then

on everyone

[uneven obsidian]

it might but does it do all that much ?

also can still balloon trapping

[zenith hare]

uncertain

100-120 is too high balloons needed

would rather get cooking 100 on everyone at that point

[uneven obsidian]

i mean my vman is aat 114

[zenith hare]

what's your call me ash at?

ik mines semi low

[uneven obsidian]

766

[zenith hare]

almost 2x mine I think?

that's a bigger difference then I'd expect

unless it's something else causing it

[uneven obsidian]

what trap duration are you using for exp trap ?

for me 1 turtle 8h is giving 119m exp

[inner phoenix]

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[crude tulip]

I just optimized everything I could think of and I got to 232M when setting 8h turtle traps.

That's what toolbox shows.

[uneven obsidian]

mine where not optimized at all, and are also pretty old

[crude tulip]

Yea, yours must be way higher if you're at 114 already.

[inner phoenix]

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[inner phoenix]

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[inner phoenix]

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[shadow lark]

oh same thought

[inner phoenix]

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[shadow lark]

until the bar fills

[inner phoenix]

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[shadow lark]

you cannot

[inner phoenix]

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[uneven obsidian]

as your construction get better cog build speed will go a lot faster

[woven plinth]

isnt upgade vault broken a little too much

[robust marsh]

I don't see this vault in quick ref?

[woven plinth]

its on bottom right conerof quick ref

[deep wigeon]

if ur ios then wait, if not bottom right

[robust marsh]

I am on Android

[uneven obsidian]

if on ios, yell at apple to approve stuff faster

[molten atlas]

is there a secret way to get into the caves from w3?

[uneven obsidian]

check if the game is updated

[deep wigeon]

make sure u have the update downloaded, then u should have it bottom right

[robust marsh]

I had to update the game

[uneven obsidian]

as an fyi the class exp buff cannot be maxed atm so spend money knowingly

theres also an updgrade down the list that reduce the cost of the others

[deep wigeon]

should be here then

[robust marsh]

I started upgrading

[deep wigeon]

upgrades gets better the further down u get

[robust marsh]

Is that dmg base dmg or total dmg?

[deep wigeon]

some above bottom rly good too ofc, but top ones have vry high max lvl and higher prices cuz of it

[deep wigeon]

base

[uneven obsidian]

base stat always have amazing return will all the multi

[molten atlas]

FINALLY ROYAL BAYONATTE GOO BRRRR

[exotic swallow]

https://tenor.com/view/ohno-meme-monkey-ohno-ohno-monkey-ohno-emote-ohno-twitch-emote-gif-119989999548046247

[inner phoenix]

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[zealous onyx]

oh just so you wait.

[inner phoenix]

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[zealous onyx]

nope. primary way to gain premium blue diamonds.

[inner phoenix]

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[zealous onyx]

not really

[inner phoenix]

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[zealous onyx]

autoloot is so good as always

[inner phoenix]

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[zealous onyx]

everything is expensive already

[inner phoenix]

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[zealous onyx]

it is, even for me

[inner phoenix]

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[exotic swallow]

true

but I still have every bundle

[inner phoenix]

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[zealous onyx]

i stopped when w4 was released

[inner phoenix]

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[zealous onyx]

sucks to have less to spend leisurely

[wary crag]

Please tell me this boosts pet luck

[uneven obsidian]

does nothing atm

[wary crag]

):

[inner phoenix]

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[wary crag]

I have 1 void coin

Still not that much lol

[inner phoenix]

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[exotic swallow]

am so trash

[inner phoenix]

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[exotic swallow]

the cost scales on that one huge

[uneven obsidian]

238T eclipse coin

[inner phoenix]

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[zealous onyx]

as long as you spend wisely

[north root]

hey guys if i active on dk here will kph be higher or nah?

[uneven obsidian]

it should with the dk resapwn ability, need to be carefull about crystals

[exotic swallow]

he shouldnt die on dk I think

[north root]

i didnt spend anything on the defense and acc traits should i?

[uneven obsidian]

was more about hte accuracy req

[mossy anvil]

while pushing worhip, is it better to use combat tree or skilling tree? how is dmg to monsters calculated? I only have 1 tower so far so i have to kill monsters manually

[north root]

also i dont understand like is there something hidden or but my damage keeps going up and down right now 540k

[exotic swallow]

U are not going to push worship like that

[north root]

u will do 1 damage no matter what its a tower defence game

[uneven obsidian]

dmg during td is irrelevant since you will always do 1 dmg

[exotic swallow]

ur main dmg comes from towers

[mossy anvil]

i have to make moves while waiting for towers to be build

[exotic swallow]

characters are just there for support, people usually use bm bc he can stall monsters

[mossy anvil]

so all hits are 1 no matter gear?

[north root]

for the first 2 waves yeah u can kill them put them on auto after 3rd wave they will be almost impossible to kill

[exotic swallow]

anyway, just do it like 1 or 2 times then leave it to rot until u get more/better towers to return to do later.

[mossy anvil]

alright thanks

[uneven obsidian]

crystal genie stats

damned wiki is so slow

[exotic swallow]

sadly, I cannot relate since I forgot that feeling when I became a whale

[north root]

yeah so this is there a reason for this to be happening?

[north root]

he has come once or twice and no matter what i put my points on my acc will be very low for ow

[pliant fractal]

accuracy talent

[north root]

my damage on the first 2 mobs but when i go to genie or the one before that i drops

[uneven obsidian]

damage will drop if a crystal pop since you need 1.5 accuracy for dk dmg buff

[north root]

ohh so if a crystal spawned and i dont hit the 1,5x acc it drops makes sense thank you

the shaquaracy is so expensive even after the bargain tag 😦 bloach is so hard to get

[molten atlas]

whats a good way to get more accuarcy?

[zealous onyx]

shaquracy bubble

[north root]

stamp roo shaquaracy vault

[uneven obsidian]

vault can definetly help if you got the coins for it

[molten atlas]

i have 2 purple coins idk if enough dogh

[north root]

kinda yeah

try to invest some in all and u will have way better boosts

[molten atlas]

ik i did that

[modest cedar]

what level ribbons are yall saving up to get before putting them on?

[uneven obsidian]

why save ?

[latent bramble]

5, 6, or 10 are good early target levels

[uneven obsidian]

can still be upgraded even when put on

[modest cedar]

oh!

[latent bramble]

just make sure you upgrade and not overwrite

[modest cedar]

didnt know that i was gonna hoard for so long 0.o ty

[plush blade]

Ive gotta say, as someone new to W4 this vault is a MASSIVE boost

had to halt coin farming to get i map progression to get my elite class, hopefully blood ber helps a lot

[rapid osprey]

Is there a guide for star talent recommendations?

[plush blade]

i do wish i had a before and after of my character to see how much he changed

[modest cedar]

can any ribbon overwrite another? like a lvl 1 can overwrite a lvl 3?

[chilly spear]

best class to get for 8th character?

already have my maestro going

[uneven obsidian]

can only be an upgrade

[modest cedar]

i see i see ty

[uneven obsidian]

or same one to upgrade it

[plush blade]

once i get BB, what should be my first priority?

[north root]

and what should my bubo do in fighting, any specefics?

[uneven obsidian]

if not pushing, cans/flomb are good bubo map in w4, tho he wont be op since no lvl 200 tenta

[white beacon]

what's happening here

it doesn't go over 1500

[chilly spear]

this is my least favorite quest in the game so far

sometimes it just doesnt register right and yo uhave to forfeit the quest and reget it

its a fine idea for a quest but it makes my poor poor puter sad

[white beacon]

i've already forfeited

and it took back 10

[chilly spear]

happens, just gotta keep trying

[modest cedar]

that one was so rough to do

[rapid osprey]

Anything?

[hoary pebble]

!startalents

[candid scarab]

Will Of The Eldest: Highest character lvl/10 points (Scripticus)
Goblet of Hemoglobin: 10/20 points (W1 merit shop)
Roll Da Dice: 1 point (W1 Mobs)
Attacks on Simmer: 50 points (W1 Mobs)
Tick Tock: 84 points (Alchemy Shop, max is 104)
Beginner Best Class: Jman lvl/10 points
Stonks!: 27 points (Wellington)
Printer Sampling: 100 points (Hoggindaz)
Shrine Architect: 1 point (Hoggindaz)
Telekinetic Storage: 1 point (W3 merit shop)
Quest Chungus: 1 point every 4 quests (Crystal Mobs)

[hoary pebble]

@rapid osprey this, I reckon

[zenith hare]

pretty bad guide tbh

hemo should be 50 all the time

[inner phoenix]

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[candid scarab]

Gear Recommendations

[zenith hare]

tick tock is very small

[north root]

quest chungus?

[uneven obsidian]

#bot-commands

[zenith hare]

flying worms map

[exotic swallow]

Outdated tbh

[north root]

should i upgrade this ?

[exotic swallow]

Yuh

[rapid osprey]

Didnt know bout bot commands mb

[exotic swallow]

Good stamp

[chilly spear]

can second this, was focusing too hard on defense and damage for survivability then when i got hemo to 30 i felt invincible

[uneven obsidian]

can still wait till later to upgrade it if crystal are lethal to you

[exotic swallow]

True

[north root]

i doubled it

but i rarely do active

[exotic swallow]

Dnc tbh

[chilly spear]

got a question about vman quest, for the 1 mil on every mob, when should i be doing that?

and what world order?

[exotic swallow]

Ull outgrow crystals soon enough

[north root]

w1 and 2 are no problem

[exotic swallow]

Especially easier with vault now

[north root]

its the 3 and 4 specially 4 ddoes 400 damage and i miss 90%

let me check the droptable

i feel like i got the dk but he isnt that strong right now

wiki is so slopooooooow

[exotic swallow]

Js upgrade stuff, meals, stamps, alchemy, breeding, refinery, resample when its best time, replace gear with better stones, etc

Clickers

[north root]

i think my w3 amarok i getting outdated for sure

[exotic swallow]

All these will give better stats.

[chilly spear]

amarok can easily last to world 4 or 5, dont worry about that

[north root]

no the one with the w3 stone

[chilly spear]

by world 4 your 3d printing will be enough to easily make dementia or chizor armor for whoever you care about

[exotic swallow]

U can craft dementia if its easy for u

[uneven obsidian]

probably meant they need to recraft it to w4 stones

[exotic swallow]

Yeah

[chilly spear]

i didnt even do that i was still on w1 stones and it still lasted easily till w4 for dementia

[exotic swallow]

It just helps more.

[chilly spear]

thats fair

[north root]

well i feel like i speedran till w4

in just 30 days

[exotic swallow]

Recrafting dementia for better stones

[north root]

and after w4 the vault xD talk about being lucky

[chilly spear]

have fun getting 20+ shiny frogs

[exotic swallow]

Easy if u did not neglect trapping

[north root]

me trying to get just 1 poison froge to get a good box

[chilly spear]

its slow and annoying + i need other shiny critters more so the idea of not just going to void armor is awful

[exotic swallow]

but shiny frogs easy af

[old latch]

convinced shiny eternal lords dont exist

[north root]

does the 20 min claiming makes it a guarantee shiny? rather than the 20 hrs because i get 1 shiny in 20 hrs max 2

[chilly spear]

ive had the worst luck with shiny scorpions and its frustrating me cause its been bottlenecking me really bad

[exotic swallow]

Dont remember voids recipe

[vital bay]

damn the vault upgrades is op

[exotic swallow]

The less time the more critters

But gl not being lazy

[chilly spear]

each set is 17 dense water, like 2.5k void bars, 60k flycicles, 75k wispy, 75k audio cord, 500 blue salt

[high nimbus]

30 days should be w6 no?

[chilly spear]

not super bad

[exotic swallow]

Salt

[heavy terrace]

i got to w4 in a week if that makes you feel better

[exotic swallow]

Worse than 20 frogs

[north root]

30 more days?

[high nimbus]

No I got to w6 in a month so I thought it was standard

[pine fiber]

I got to w7 right after I made my new account

[exotic swallow]

Are u f2p

[high nimbus]

Autoloot just

[exotic swallow]

Ok

[stone drift]

the chizoar pendant drops in it's base form?

[north root]

nah u and the offsite are different breeds

[pine fiber]

if you mean the blankie, yes

[stone drift]

alr bet

[zenith hare]

yeah

[stone drift]

ty

[pine fiber]

brainrot slang

[zenith hare]

1/333 chance...well more like 3/1k but yeah

multiply ur Dr to that

[north root]

like i spent more than 10 days in w3 because i wanted to unlock my 7th character plus my barb couldnt push shit

[stone drift]

mb, I've been playing way too much minecraft, their slangs got to me

[exotic swallow]

Yk, not all new players know how to do their best

[pine fiber]

not everyone gets to spend 0-24 at their pc either

[chilly spear]

barb feels genuinely useless until you hit 30k health overnight

[north root]

me sitting at 3k hp

[exotic swallow]

Meme bean, roast them

[chilly spear]

go all in on vault

[north root]

no

[inner sail]

is there a guide for what the best teams for spice collecting are

[unique token]

lol, you guys have 3k hp? I just got into w3 at lvl79 and I have like 360hp

[chilly spear]

im in almost the exact same position you are and the vault quadrupled my money per house and took my barb from like 8k hp to 30k overnight

[north root]

but on what there is no upgrade for mana or health

[chilly spear]

talent points

[north root]

ohh that

[chilly spear]

all in on strength and hp then all in on the page 1 talent that buffs you based on max hp

[north root]

i am halfway there

[stone drift]

I remember those days, they were nice

[dapper sparrow]

Should I use this on cooldown while fishing for new recipes?

[north root]

its ok

[chilly spear]

w3 is like the last world you feel genuinely pathetically weak in (assuming youre not minmaxxing really hard)

[stone drift]

I played for 30 minutes and forgot about the game for about half a year

[sinful bolt]

your kitchen must have atleast 1 fire level to use that skill, otherwise nothing happens

[north root]

we have all been there(feels good to be on the bright side)

[dapper sparrow]

It only works on 1 specific kitchen?

[sinful bolt]

no, i meant the fire level when you attempt to cook for a new dish

[uneven obsidian]

you need to already be able to complete a new meal recipe for it to work

[sinful bolt]

if you use it before then, you waste it, lol

[dapper sparrow]

Yeah that's fine I get that

[white beacon]

just lost all progress hell yeah

[signal ingot]

Crashed because too many items ig

[north root]

i should be prioritizing new dishes more right?

[uneven obsidian]

yeah, unless they take an eternity to finish

[north root]

i just bought the 4th kitchen

and its so fkin sloowwww

also it was so expensive

[uneven obsidian]

well yeah, you normaly want to use kitchen 1 to discover new meals

later kitchen can be harder to upgrade at first depending on your pet power

[north root]

yeah w4 is slow very slow i am gonna focus less on this for now

[uneven obsidian]

just make sure to check the meals like every day to change them as they level up, if you can use IT/IE just go for which ever is next to lvl once they reach diamond plate

[north root]

i think i unlocked a good one

diamond is lv 11 right?

[signal ingot]

Yep

[zenith hare]

you've skipped so much.

you want every plate

[signal ingot]

If you unlocked bread theres probably a lot of easier ones youre missing

[static void]

Get Egg

[north root]

i am trying to

[signal ingot]

.

[signal ingot]

You using optimal set ups?

Or trial and error babyyyy

[signal ingot]

Aah single spice

Just trial then, no error

[glossy minnow]

any point in going past round 200 in pet arena?

[signal ingot]

Hating yourself

For now no though

[north root]

i tried double spice twice and got the same recipe out of the 4 i could get even when the chance was like 80%

so i am just going for the easiest ones for now but yeah they do be taking time

[untold geyser]

At least you got the "leave a character afk for x amount out of the way 🙂

I assume I am not alone in immedately triggering the mini boss and getting killed/had to run away? W4

[north root]

broooo

i just did that yesterday and realized its just like the w3 mini-boss

[uneven obsidian]

nah the w4 mini boss send fireball after you XD

[untold geyser]

Of course, for once it broke with the once the boss is up it stays up until dead thing that it normally was doing

So, I went to get better food and now I'm on cooldown for the thing

[north root]

4 spawned and now when i am strong i havbe to wait a week for it

[stone drift]

of course I dropped the chizoar obol but the blankie didn't drop

ty game

[uneven obsidian]

if no hex obols, at least chiz one isnt the worst

[north root]

should i or should i not?

wait for the 100%?

[uneven obsidian]

gamba

[sinful bolt]

could use the BB talent

[north root]

i have failed two times with this perc

this one?

lets goo

[sinful bolt]

start cooking eggs first, unless you need the def

[north root]

is it ok if i use my ladles 🙂

[static void]

You want to lvl the ladle bb talent I think

[sinful bolt]

should be fine

probs do that first

[north root]

yup i did

its on lv 40

[willow sierra]

7th char, who should I go for? So far I have a subclass each for war/arch/mage

[dense egret]

Most ppl go for jman on their 7th

[willow sierra]

Nice, TY, after that, which classes should I double up on? DK and SB?

[zenith hare]

second sb is very bad now

like...extremely bad

[cold wraith]

yea im just hoping the master class is going to be crazy

[north root]

is this imp to unlock? now or is this place for a later world

[zenith hare]

8th is normally dk now, 9th is normally es

and rn 10th should stay beginner till all master classes are out

[zenith hare]

very important

[untold geyser]

I think you need what 30 fishing or 25 to get into it? Can't remember

[north root]

yup

[north root]

yeah i am 26

[zenith hare]

!crystal

[candid scarab]

The Crystal Monsters are rare mini-boss spawns that have a 1 in 2,000 chance to spawn whenever you actively kill an enemy. It has 15x HP, 30x Exp, 2.5x accuracy required, and does 2.5x more damage than monsters in your current area.

[north root]

yeah i know

[untold geyser]

Auto is not very good at handling them... let's stand in the mob. About the only time I ever die anymore.

[cerulean cipher]

How do i use a trap?

[north root]

follow the questline to the left of the w3 town theres a portal

[cerulean cipher]

Oh the hunter guy

Ok, now how to i PLACE the trap?

[zealous onyx]

stand on the platform of critters, then look at upper left(?)

[cerulean cipher]

Oh found it

Im just blind lol

[modern gate]

!merit4

[candid scarab]

1️⃣ Buy one point of spice spillage. This gives you up to a 20% chance to claim all your spices when claiming over an hour of afk gains. Since spices generate more slowly the more you have produced since last claim this will improve spice production.
2️⃣ Having more bubbles get upgraded each day will help a lot, especially when combined with buffs giving more levels per bubble. Only buy this if you can reach the No Bubble Left Behind node in the lab.
3️⃣ Egg capacity is limited and every time the hatchery fills up eggs are wasted until you unlock the rarity upgrade. Also helps you get two achievements with good rewards requiring egg capacity.
4️⃣ Allows you to connect to lab bonuses from slightly farther away which can reduce the number of characters needed in the lab. Note that the max distance between characters, which is called line width, doesn't increase.
5️⃣ Improves kills per hour in W4 but since you likely won't be pushing W4 portals for long this is relatively low priority.
6️⃣ Max level spice spillage triggers every time. They are lower priority since it takes a lot of star talent points and is likely to trigger several times in a row when checking multiple characters.
7️⃣ 3 crystal mobs per day is very little.
Unlocks the recipes for troll armor giving all stat% and the base for all further armor upgrades. It is great but require plenty of Nullo Salt. Don't buy it if you can't craft them.

[inner phoenix]

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[shadow lark]

whatever improves your afk gains for that resource

efficiency, afk rate, sampling size

[modern gate]

Lava flame recently increased afk gains by 30%, try to reprint

[inner phoenix]

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[zenith hare]

multi resource chance too

skill prowess (up to 2.0)

actions per minute

[plush blade]

what holidays typically have events within the game? would we expect anything for valentines

[zenith hare]

potentially

lava does one for most holidays....sometimes

sometimes he skips some

depends on how busy his schedule is

[red compass]

hey, what should my 8th char be? i have 6 main elites + maestro 7th

[plush blade]

what is your current classes for skills? asking so i know what im doing, not because i can offer advice lol

[red compass]

wdym?

[plush blade]

like which elites do you have currently

[red compass]

bb sb bubo dk es bm mman

[plush blade]

oh so basically one of each elite then, i guess i didnt realize there was only 6

[snow belfry]

#midgame-chat-w3🧊w4🔮 message

[red compass]

perf ty

[plucky frost]

So i just got to W4 and have no idea how the lab works. Why is only one of my characters generating... whatever resource that is?

[zenith hare]

it's xp, and you have to leave the characters afk inside lab. you move around people's heads towards the nodes to get that account wide bonus

the white number is how far the characters can connect to each other from

[latent bramble]

because only one person is connected to lab

[exotic swallow]

until he gets his masterclass

[plucky frost]

i dont get it

[exotic swallow]

thats so fair dude

[plucky frost]

how do you connect more

[latent bramble]

how did you do it with the character you're on? or the one with the DB hood, at least

[plucky frost]

i mean I just dragged it over to the prism, but it wont let me connect any others

[zenith hare]

you need them to be inside lab, afk wise

and before you make any assumptions, the bonuses far then make up for it

[plucky frost]

ahh like physically? so they straight up cant progress anymore while doing lab stuff?

[zenith hare]

they can progress, its this thing called printer

[plucky frost]

so my main pusher probably shouldnt be in there

[zenith hare]

and a fyi: you want to not progress in skilling levels due to mman

so lab is 99/100 times better

the 1 time is when you want everyone's elite class

[plucky frost]

yea, i literally just opened W4, so need to push to that map at least before I can start labbing i suppose. Thanks

[exotic swallow]

I have no idea how meme bean bothers with all these long responses

[zenith hare]

for the chars who can't quite push yet, send em to lab

[zenith hare]

helps when i don't need to look to type

am playing rimworld while doing so

[exotic swallow]

I go do my 100 daily boss kills now

[zenith hare]

300

[exotic swallow]

nerfed to 100

[zenith hare]

wait what

[sleek pollen]

[exotic swallow]

shadow nerfed

[sleek pollen]

Since vault

[zenith hare]

noted

[exotic swallow]

he returned the non random button

[zenith hare]

why! that was the ONE good change from it!

[latent bramble]

well, need to retest it. since DB patch had some inconsistency on first day, but I'm assuming it's been nerfed

[zenith hare]

the random button was honestly the best thing that can be done with world bosses

it was just the extended timer that was the issue

[exotic swallow]

another issue is not to be lazy

which is hard

[zenith hare]

it's like he wants people to find a way around it istg

[exotic swallow]

its on the same lvl as idleons unable to read

[exotic swallow]

and is so easy

[zenith hare]

honestly it is

[exotic swallow]

lmao

[zenith hare]

saying that will get you warned

[exotic swallow]

wat

[zenith hare]

under rule 4(?)

I think it's 4

[exotic swallow]

that is so funny

they gonna find a way to warn anyone under any circumstances

[zenith hare]

discussing an active bug

anyways, off this topic now

[exotic swallow]

I dont think its a bug

[zenith hare]

it 100% is

[exotic swallow]

but anyway

wonder why lava didnt fix it

anyway

[untold geyser]

What is this about not progressing skilling levels? O.o
Before I muck something up.

[bleak sleet]

genetic splicing is lvl 2, and the other two are lvl 1
Is it not working cause levelled them up before getting the quest?
Will I need to get genetic splicing to lv 5?

[zenith hare]

mman needs to be highest skill level

so lowering the highest skill level you need to get to makes it easier

[sleek pollen]

Go check the breeding tab real quick maybe

[exotic swallow]

🫡

[zenith hare]

level up any upgrade in that menu

[bleak sleet]

Yeah I did that

[bleak sleet]

Ah okay, that's when it's gonna check for progress then

[untold geyser]

Well... this is going to be a pita on the chopping section then 😕

[sleek pollen]

[turbid stag]

I think the best way is to make people not have to use such things when farming bosses.

An example that could fix it perhaps would be a quest that cost 300 keys to get gems like a few gem envelopes.
Or have a way to spend 300 keys or 100 keys with one boss attempt and get the amount of loot for that many keys.

[untold geyser]

Though to be fair, I don't know what unreasonably high levels is anyway

[exotic swallow]

oh too much work for lava, how could he do that!

[zenith hare]

or make boss difficulty scales with gems

[exotic swallow]

too hard!!!

[zenith hare]

so costing 40 keys for amarok makes 40 rolls

[zenith hare]

40+

[plucky frost]

For breeding, is it just a random chance every time you breed the last tier of pet to unlock the next? Or is it a chance when you breed any pet

[zenith hare]

early on, mid game 60+

[turbid stag]

I actually like the quest idea to get 5 gem envelopes to have a chance to get 10k gems

[zenith hare]

late game 140+

[zenith hare]

only the latest pet

[untold geyser]

We have no idea what the code looks like, it might be actually a pain to code.
Ah, 40+ I might be okay at least for the moment, I think my highest chopper is like 41 maybe? And its cause my alchemy bubbles aren't giving enough efficency, so I was spending long hours chopping for low returns.

[turbid stag]

Even if it is pain and could take a month it is still a very good QoL which we all would love

Might stop unwanted behaviour as a side effect

[untold geyser]

I was just bringing that up to try to try to curtail the comments about the level of effort involved cause we have no idea. Not commenting on if its a good or bad idea. It involves an issue/situation I haven't had to deal with but, I haven't been playing that long.

[molten atlas]

HEELLLPPP I GOT SOFTLOCKED ON A QUEST

scripticus quest

[latent bramble]

the 25 vault upgrades?

[untold geyser]

Which one?

Granted this might be the wrong channel for that.

[molten atlas]

to get a class but i did already and i got a sub class too but the quest "is not completed"

[untold geyser]

Did you toss the paper you get for doing it? You can reclaim it if you did I think

[pine fiber]

did you take the class certificate from Promotheus

[molten atlas]

i think yws

[pine fiber]

then you should be able to complete the quest

[molten atlas]

wait i didnt even got one

[untold geyser]

If your missing that certification, if you check completed quests I think you can get another one

[molten atlas]

ok thx

[untold geyser]

Sigh, farming in your skilling spec 😕

[marble estuary]

Does any one know if you upgrade a ribbon if you put the same ribbon onto a meal ? so a meal already has Rank2 and you add another R2 does it get into R3?

[pine fiber]

it does, yes

[marble estuary]

Thank you 🙂

[molten atlas]

wait WAT EVEN IF I RECLAIM THE QUEST ITEM I STILL DONT GET IT IT SAYS THE ITEM DROPPED AT YOUR FEET BUT NOTHING IS HAPPENING IM NOT GETTING THE ITEM

[molten vapor]

i should keep ranking up?

or just stack them

[pine fiber]

check pins

[molten vapor]

ty

[molten atlas]

waht is buy upgrades? i need to buy 25 to complete the scripticus quest wut

[pine fiber]

ah so Lava changed the quest

[latent bramble]

vault upgrades

[molten vapor]

this is account wide?

[hybrid sleet]

yes

[molten vapor]

nice

[molten atlas]

THANK YOUU!! IT WAS THAT

[molten vapor]

which mob is the best to farm money in w1-3

[latent bramble]

usually one of your furthest pushed maps

[pine fiber]

gmush

[molten vapor]

i had 4 dementia coins and unlocking the upgrade vault boost my progress A LOT

[night sable]

wait until genies on w4 tbh

do something you need to do something on anyway

so one of the card drop card mobs or maybe poops

[molten vapor]

i'm trying to get my maestro and i'm pushing w4 for elite class

[night sable]

cause money farming in w3 and even w4 is kinda ass

when you get dk just keep him on genies for a while it'll help money farming and with lab jail

[rapid osprey]

There any "recommended" remaining 3/10 characters to make?

[molten vapor]

the last 3 characters?

[rapid osprey]

Yeah as in I have 1 of each elite class which should I have dupes of

[molten vapor]

another dk, sb and es

dk first if u want more construction bonus

[north root]

do i keep these on my auto spell bar as they are taking a lot of my mana on my dk

idk if its because of these or its just i dont have enough mana

[molten atlas]

what is the normal level most pepole get to when they first enter w3?

[molten vapor]

around 40-60

[north root]

should be around 60-70

[molten vapor]

dang

[uneven obsidian]

will vary and vault will make that change too

[molten atlas]

oh almost all of my characters are 70 LOL

[north root]

if u feel u are strong enough to enter w3 u can

[molten vapor]

i reach w3 with all my characters lvl 80 cus i was afk 3 years 🤡

[night sable]

people enter w3 on 70?

i think i left w3 around 70

[north root]

i left w3 on 80

[molten vapor]

and half of them were doing nothing

[white lintel]

Yea 70-90 is when people leave w3 I think

[white lintel]

I’m guessing you didn’t have fractal island unlocked?

[molten vapor]

didn't have that by then

[night sable]

most people dont plan to be afk 3 years

[white lintel]

That’s so unfortunate

[night sable]

tbf

[molten vapor]

i unlocked trash and shimmer island 3 days ago

[north root]

most people dont plan to come back after 3 years

[night sable]

i afked 2 years with one guy on nothing and one on carrots

[molten atlas]

whst the BEST SUB CLASS FOR EVERY CLASS?

the first sub class

[white lintel]

You need all of them

[molten atlas]

ik i just got my 6th caracther

[molten vapor]

i started working with unstable schedule and didn't play that's why

[white lintel]

Get one of each

[north root]

i am level 100 and i still have not unlocked the last fish map

[night sable]

typically the ones people have two of are DK and ES

[molten vapor]

get a class of each if u don't have already

[molten atlas]

what is dk and es?

[night sable]

but do not get two of things until 8th

[molten vapor]

for the 7th if u still don't have a journeyman go for it

[white lintel]

Elites

[night sable]

squire and wizard for 3rd class i think

[molten atlas]

i just got all 🙂

[molten vapor]

divine knight and elemental sorcerer, elite classes w4

[night sable]

get jman or dk 7th and jman or dk 8th

es 9th

[molten atlas]

this doesn't say like anithing to me but okay

[night sable]

10th keep as nothing for now

[molten vapor]

your family should look like this

[night sable]

when it matters youll know what it means dw

[white lintel]

Jman is useless for a while, just get other classes bc new classes are harder to get now. So you should just get another DK and the other duplicate classes

Save vman for 8-9

[molten atlas]

it does but it doesnt have journey man

[night sable]

jman is fine to get if you can go insta maestro and start grinding skills

[molten vapor]

then go for it

[night sable]

cause you need to grind skills on maestro anyway

[molten atlas]

idc what i wanna get

[night sable]

this is for w3?

[molten vapor]

i got him as my 7th class and i'm pushing to w4 for elite and my maestro

[night sable]

i got him as my 4th and uhh

[molten vapor]

and vman eventually

[night sable]

dont do that

[white lintel]

Maestro is also pretty useless except for the hands, but with xp on him it’ll be a lot of trouble to keep him above, you can just get him done later when you have EQ and perma cards and whatnot

[night sable]

7th is good get him 7th

[white lintel]

Don’t do 7th

[molten atlas]

wit so what can you get from barbarian in the next sub class?

[night sable]

ignore artic get him 7th

[magic marten]

I got my jman as my 10th and didnt regret it cause i had a much smoother experience making him into vman and doing skilling for him

[night sable]

ignore that person too get him 7th

[molten vapor]

if you have 6 character already ur 7th should be a journeyman, if not interested rn i would do another squire for construction but that's up to you

[molten atlas]

ok ig

[exotic swallow]

ignore everything, become endgamer.

[white lintel]

You’re still in div jail shut

[night sable]

youre not real

[molten atlas]

oh okay

[night sable]

go jman 7th or 8th idk

personal preference pretty much

[white lintel]

2nd DK more important than jman

[night sable]

nope

personal preference

[magic marten]

Cause having 2 dk for ore prints and then you have refinery cycle skill youcan use helps alot

And not having much damage on your vman eventually will suck for pushing portals

[molten atlas]

ye but i need 96 profile levels for the 7th character oof

[night sable]

then dont worry about it lmao

[white lintel]

You wouldn’t push portals with him anyways

[exotic swallow]

Glad I am not all above

[magic marten]

As you go further into worlds you get the skill efficiency bonuses and more damage

[night sable]

maybe youll have that by the time you hit elite classes

[molten vapor]

is up to you if you want to prepare for mid-late with the journeyman or boost your progress with another squire

[exotic swallow]

divinity jail? more like lab jail when u get goharut.

[magic marten]

Vman speedrun i mean sorry

[night sable]

i think jman is fair to get at w5 but also fair to get at w4

[white lintel]

Gotcha

[night sable]

either way you're in jail for a while

[molten vapor]

i think you should use your jman and maestro to whatever you need like monster drops for salts or extra ores, fish, etc till you get the vman and then he'll boost your progress massively

[white lintel]

J or m man wouldn’t have near as good as a basic toons prints, only speedrun prints are better

[molten atlas]

is this good for warrior?

[night sable]

i think full stop put your maestro on fish print jail

fish prints dont matter that much early but you do need them