#midgame-chat-w3🧊w4🔮

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zenith hare
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you go to bug reports and report it

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its not game breaking in an abuse sense

north root
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guys when should i start the skilling farm for journey man to maestro my journey man currently is level 75

runic coral
zenith hare
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meaning no need to hide it

white lintel
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jman useless for anything else, so start now

brisk mauve
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Don't mobile it haha

north root
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how do i collect the monster ratig?

pine fiber
north root
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i was on wiki already bro 😦

pine fiber
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then it's right there in your face

north root
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sorry dude

pine fiber
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better to build up good habits than having to be spoonfed every bit of information, I'm not against you, dont take it personally

pastel shuttle
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Heya, is there a 'best' money farming method from worlds 1-4?
When I looked up guides they're kind of end-game focused 😂

shadow lark
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how do i get to the next mining area? The portal is green but doesnt work

pine fiber
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w4 is basically a good source of money

bleak sleet
pastel shuttle
pine fiber
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do your elite quests first and foremost, they give a ton for a new player

pastel shuttle
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Was focusing on horizontal progression since a different guide said I could chill more on w4 instead of pushing hard.

pine fiber
pastel shuttle
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Although it isn't too fast for me.

pine fiber
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do your vault upgrades

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have a secondary miner on copper for example, give it mining food and gear, equip afk + mining cards

pastel shuttle
shadow lark
pine fiber
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you gotta go to the bottom

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one of the portals is a bait

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I think bottom left

shadow lark
white path
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the portal on the right is a placeholder

shadow lark
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yeah i see it now

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thats funny

pine fiber
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@pastel shuttle have you reached the monster cash node in lab yet?

pastel shuttle
pine fiber
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bzzzz, big bad

pastel shuttle
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It seemed such a waste to let someone stand in lab, noob take I suppose.

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Darnit 😭

pine fiber
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have everyone except your pusher in lab

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reach killer's brightside atleast

vital verge
pastel shuttle
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Was also doing achievements with other alts recommended by the auto review tool

vital verge
pine fiber
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if you are not sweating progression, you can take your time, but w5 is gonna help a ton

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and killer's brightside doubles your kills, so you are halving portal progression time

vital verge
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the illusion of choice

pine fiber
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reaching the shrine node also speeds up things as you'll have all the effects in the same world you placed them in, and if you have all the characters in lab, you gain huge amounts of time towards your shrines @pastel shuttle

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ppl usually place them on the dining table KEKW

obtuse trout
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question for wld 3

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on the 3rd area theres 2 portals 1 to go furhter into the map towards boss and one thats like 90k kils

shadow lark
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come back later

obtuse trout
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is it worth to grind there to get the kills for the portal up top?

pine fiber
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yes, towards rams, you'll do that later

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nah, keep going towards boss and w4

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you dont need to worry about those maps yet

obtuse trout
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should i also grind for the anvil 3 weapons? while oging for boss

shadow lark
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dont really need those for w3

obtuse trout
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aight sweet

pine fiber
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progress your anvil as you see fit and have the materials for tab unlock item

bleak sleet
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With the W4 stones putting main stat on your stuff
Is it better to put main stat on it for damage? Or secondary stat for accuracy?

pine fiber
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but with vault upgrades, it's definitely not necessary

pine fiber
bleak sleet
pine fiber
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especially for DK's precision passive

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the rest is really up to you, you need like 18k accuracy at the end of w4

vital verge
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based on this image, is there something im probably negleting?

shadow lark
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yeah, your library

vital verge
shadow lark
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your checkout speed goes down with every book sitting there

pastel shuttle
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Ty for the advice

tough tangle
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just made it into world 3 a day ago and am trying to get the hang of sampling. How does it work? im curently copying (if thats what you call it) 46 copper on my squire

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how do i make more than 46 copper per hour

shadow lark
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get more mining efficiency or sampling%

tough tangle
shadow lark
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whatever increases the amount of resource youd regularly get afking increasing your sample size

tough tangle
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i see

shadow lark
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alchemy, cards, stamps, star signs etc

pine fiber
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amarok card, mining cards, up-to-date tools with current highest upgrade stones, if available, mining food

tough tangle
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also trying to get the hand of cogs and worshipping tbf

pine fiber
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dungeon books

pine fiber
tough tangle
vital verge
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is ti possible to connect all of those?

tough tangle
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i should focus towards

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also swords

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trying to get more damage although i think i do decently

shadow lark
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amarok is fine for a long time

pine fiber
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you'll want to switch from amarok maybe around dementia, or void

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until then, recraft your amaroks if you go to a higher world because of better stones

zenith hare
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maybe you need more bonus from summoning or equinox, but ik i can

vital verge
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Yo meme bean got the king dedede pfp

vital verge
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So its provablt summoning

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Is the deathbringer class worth it? Dont know what it does

mossy anvil
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How do i get 3d sampling talent? didnt appear after unlocking 3d printer

pine fiber
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do the w3 quests from the npc

mossy anvil
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gotcha, ty

winged lily
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anyone have a pet foraging team guide/spreadsheet

pine fiber
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!guide

latent bramble
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For most people no, until you get to the point where you need the expanded liquid cap

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If you know you'll be afk for a week or something then it might be useful if you want to come back and upgrade a bunch of bubbles

zenith hare
vital verge
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I was afk for 526 hours

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Would it be better if i had this on?

edgy leaf
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What's the happy dog bonus from upgrade vault?

latent bramble
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did you read the second half of my sentence? YEP
having a smaller cap just means you get more liquid to throw into upgrades which isn't bad, though if you're not at 99% equinox, then you're also losing out on liquid peepoShrug

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just depends on what you want to upgrade

atomic fable
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You think I can max this out before w5 start?

shadow lark
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with the new coin bonus ya maybe

atomic fable
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I can hit void coins in w4 now

dense pine
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i maxxed most of my cauldrons while in w4 at least

atomic fable
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I managed to get nearly 10 levels on my sb in about 3 hours

obtuse trout
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im still learning alot of the mechanics and stuff in this game but how worth it is it to do the star signs?? i dont think ive done any yet

zenith hare
zenith hare
obtuse trout
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ah right

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so i should grind and get them now so later game i dont have to stress essentially?

wet ravine
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nvm was with wrong talents

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i assumed purple was megacrit

atomic fable
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I can't do megacrit yet

zenith hare
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it adds up over time, and most w1-3 is very easy

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hardest imo is mage to platinum map

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everything else is just you progressing or spending a night in a map

obtuse trout
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aight cheers g

quasi jungle
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Does getting over 100% crit doing anything for towers during worship?

sleek pollen
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crit on crit

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probably?

quasi jungle
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Didn't know if it worked like that or not

zenith elk
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i cant remember what the other thing that lets you remained connected to lab when you dont have characters in tubes besides the god link

quasi jungle
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Pretty sure it's just the god link but through doot

sleek pollen
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yeah only bear god I reckon

zenith elk
sleek pollen
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doot or pocket divinity with bear on?

quasi jungle
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Are you in divinity?

zenith elk
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doesnt have doot, and linked to goat

latent bramble
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only other thing would be bear on pocket divinity
-# which dadoums mentioned

zenith elk
sleek pollen
sleek pollen
zenith elk
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2 killing mobs, with my on deathbringy, with rest at monument

zenith elk
latent bramble
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maybe if we keep saying it he'll continue to ignore us

zenith hare
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yeah that

sleek pollen
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yeah like E said only other way would be from pocket divinity in hole like I said as well

zenith elk
mossy anvil
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!build

dusty apex
mossy anvil
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what was the command to check gear progress?

zenith elk
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was trying to remember this, X_X but brain kept failing me

sleek pollen
candid scarabBOT
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Gear Recommendations
mossy anvil
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thanks

atomic fable
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Is it good that I've leveled up my SB a bit to help towards my 8th character?

sleek pollen
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rip !gear2 people will not remember you GuyMontag

quasi jungle
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Finally going through and upgrading all my worship runs lol

atomic fable
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I got it from level 86 to 95 in about 3.5 hours

quasi jungle
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Went from 110 on goblin to 160 lol

white path
dusty apex
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you using pancakes guides? he has the best TD setups

quasi jungle
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Uh, idk just found a random guide that looked good enough haha

latent bramble
quasi jungle
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Doesn't look like that's what I'm using

white path
quasi jungle
latent bramble
dusty apex
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or use the masterlist

stone gorge
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just got a 17k borger and went from like round 45 to now I'm almost 75, still going atm

atomic fable
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is this high enough for it to be worth upgrading? (I've not been trying to build it up, I've been letting auto use it during levelling up SB)

magic cargo
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where are owls?

quasi jungle
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I don't think I understand his guides haha

white path
magic cargo
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ty

dusty apex
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which part is confusing you, some of his later ones got a bit funny, but if you are still doing 160 for the first TD, you can probably do some earlier set ups that are easier to follow

latent bramble
atomic fable
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Alright

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I guess any bonus is better than 0?

quasi jungle
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The main part throwing me off is he's got 4 setups shown, but I don't fully understand why

latent bramble
# quasi jungle I don't think I understand his guides haha

For the most part, just stick with the top left or first image. That should be good enough for anything below the waves he's recommending
If you're pushing far, then read through it and he should say when to swap to different setups

dusty apex
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which one are you looking at, they are different progress points

quasi jungle
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I'm looking at w3 right now

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I'm a little bit behind on tower levels from what he mentions so I don't expect to go quite as far as what he's got. I'm also kinda lazy so that's a factor too haha

dusty apex
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top picture is standard setup, bottom is a dps mode to clear boss wave for wave 180 and 190

hybrid sleet
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!merit3

candid scarabBOT
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1️⃣ One point into Telekinetic Storage which has an ability to deposit all items in your inventory into the chest while destroying everything on the ground. This is a great quality of life feature. Skip this if you have the ram companion.
2️⃣ Buy until you have 3 building spots and 3 food slots. This can be between 0 and 2 purchases depending on gem shop purchases. Food slots will help your pusher go faster and 3 building spots is a 50% construction speed boost.
3️⃣ Talent levels are hugely important and the library should be used as much as possible.
4️⃣ The 3D printer will be how you get most of you skilling materials in the future. To make good use of it you need your sample size to be as close to the 90% cap as possible.
5️⃣ Buy the rest. More slots = more better.
6️⃣ Leveling telekinetic storage gives up to +13.6% Carry Cap which is good for afking longer, stamps and crafting, but is not a priority early on.
7️⃣ You won't get enough points to consider buying respawn for a long time by which you will have cleared all W3 portals.
salt Get the first level when you reach rank 3 on orange salt and get another level each time a new salt reaches rank 3.
⚔️ The last recipe is for the Chizoars Caustic Scarf which is best in slot for a long time giving both damage and respawn. Get this when you can complete the associated task of beating Chizoar with 8 characters. Other recipes are for Chizoar gear. The helmet gives +15% damage and can be considered if you are making purple salt. The other pieces are mediocre but some make the chestplate for 3% damage.

blazing orchid
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i have two questions about "Trap Box Vacuum" from rift 6, 1. is shiny chance determined by the player the trap is assigned to or hunter/beast master shiny chance? and 2. would it be best to set all traps on 20 minutes because it is automatic

civic nexus
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!merit4

candid scarabBOT
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1️⃣ Buy one point of spice spillage. This gives you up to a 20% chance to claim all your spices when claiming over an hour of afk gains. Since spices generate more slowly the more you have produced since last claim this will improve spice production.
2️⃣ Having more bubbles get upgraded each day will help a lot, especially when combined with buffs giving more levels per bubble. Only buy this if you can reach the No Bubble Left Behind node in the lab.
3️⃣ Egg capacity is limited and every time the hatchery fills up eggs are wasted until you unlock the rarity upgrade. Also helps you get two achievements with good rewards requiring egg capacity.
4️⃣ Allows you to connect to lab bonuses from slightly farther away which can reduce the number of characters needed in the lab. Note that the max distance between characters, which is called line width, doesn't increase.
5️⃣ Improves kills per hour in W4 but since you likely won't be pushing W4 portals for long this is relatively low priority.
6️⃣ Max level spice spillage triggers every time. They are lower priority since it takes a lot of star talent points and is likely to trigger several times in a row when checking multiple characters.
7️⃣ 3 crystal mobs per day is very little.
salt Unlocks the recipes for troll armor giving all stat% and the base for all further armor upgrades. It is great but require plenty of Nullo Salt. Don't buy it if you can't craft them.

quasi jungle
sleek pollen
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#bot-commands ||@civic nexus || ||@hybrid sleet ||

hybrid sleet
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oh thanks sorry for flooding

unique token
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so im only at world 3, can I not use the vault?

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i dont see it in quick ref

blazing orchid
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iOS is always late to updates, check on steam/web/android instead

sleek pollen
zenith hare
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ios LOVES to be like 3 days behind on updates as their update releasing system sucks

sleek pollen
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3 days is generous

quasi jungle
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lol guide says get KRAKEN to 0.33 I'm sitting here wondering how he got POISON to 0.33 with 4 party lol

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Comprehension level 0 lol

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Yeah, I was looking at the wrong tower lol

zenith hare
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poison levels up damage, kraken levels up attack speed

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16 As and 4 Bs is normally what people do

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though higher level kraken allows less As

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so you can get more Bs for damage

quasi jungle
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I know that lol

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I was just laughing at my confusion

ripe orchid
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woohoo world 5

sleek pollen
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gz

ripe orchid
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wait there dialog for me waiting here hol up

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aw it teleported me out):

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I thought I found a secret

marble silo
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what exactly is the upgrade vault?

sleek pollen
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Bonus

gusty goblet
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is upgrade vault good?

sleek pollen
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Nah not worth it do not upgrade it

marble silo
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wait wut

sleek pollen
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Me when I lie

latent bramble
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you heard the man. no upgrading acecowCop

sleek pollen
atomic fable
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Is level 100 a good threshold to stop at for world 4 on all my characters? (It's taking around 4-5 hours for my SB to reach level 86 to 100 nearly)

junior valley
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is there a tome tracker for owl stuff?

junior valley
atomic fable
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True

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same happened with my dk towards late w4

white lintel
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I was also late to start

bronze sail
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So does this mean I have 136.9% with the (+46.9) my Royal Samples gives +44% does that mean I can turn this damn prayer off?

white lintel
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Uhh

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||maybe||

bronze sail
# white lintel ||maybe||

Eh when I get to thise weekend and resample I'll check but I'm really hoping so -87% XP gain isn't a ton but it would help level just a 🤏 faster.

hybrid apex
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is VIP library bugged sometimes?? I click checkout book, and nothing happens. but it uses my checkouts.

clever berry
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How do you even level cooking past 50?

latent bramble
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balloons

zenith hare
hybrid apex
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oh no. I thought that was specifically for one star book I got sick of dropping....

latent bramble
quasi jungle
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I understand now why Pancake uses a dps setup for bosses lol

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Only on wave 150, can't imagine on 180/190 lol

quasi jungle
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I might have to leave this going overnight lol

zenith hare
hybrid apex
zenith hare
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its why people cant go on forever

zenith hare
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w1/2 quest

hybrid apex
quasi jungle
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Well looks like 150 or 160 will be my cap for now

atomic fable
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So you can also clear boss waves if you stall long enough?

odd bane
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how does construction exp work?

atomic fable
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Okay, is it good that I'm starting to get my characters to level 100?

atomic fable
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Since my lowest level character will get boosted exp, is it better to go highest to lowest?

atomic fable
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Oh

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Wait, if you time out on a boss stage, you automatically lose?

atomic fable
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Oh

zenith hare
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you have a 9999 second timer till the next wave comes

atomic fable
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Ooh, so if it times out, that's bad?

dusty apex
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it just starts the next wave

zenith hare
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normally is bad yeah

dusty apex
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but remember for your best wave to be recorded everything needs to be dead

zenith hare
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but sometimes, if the boss wave was like 2 big enemies then a lot of smaller ones you can get higher

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hence the dps build for 180 and 190 bosses at once

dusty apex
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there are a couple of spots where you can drag the 180 boss to 190 and kill them both together since 190 is easier then 180

zenith hare
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don't ask why it's easier, it just is :p

atomic fable
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When do you think I should do tower defence runs again?

latent bramble
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when you think you can get another 10-20 waves in

zenith hare
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tbh early on, I'd say when you need more souls

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or a new type of soul

atomic fable
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1 td I probably will have to redo soon is the world 3 totem

eager sphinx
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Hello I have returned after a long while.
Ya think my ES can outspeed my DK in rushing w4?

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If I slap on some Dementia armor of course and keep DK on mining Dementia for the rest.

zenith hare
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also maybe don't actually mine

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tldr: makes ur mmans life hell

atomic fable
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I made that mistake earlier on, my DK is level 64 mining

zenith hare
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printer suffices well enough

eager sphinx
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My DK and Jman will do mining (Cuz Jman needs skilling lvls)

zenith hare
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yes and your jman needs to be a higher level then ur dk

eager sphinx
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Why?

blazing minnow
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y’all know why my prints went from purple to yellow

zenith hare
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mman gives a near 2.2x account wide efficency bonus to all chars who are lower skill level then him

zenith hare
steel nymph
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4525.7t dmg increase just from vault aloneGrumblo_xplode

eager sphinx
steel nymph
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if only i had more kills on those specific monsters

zenith hare
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mman will catch back up eventually but...yeah

steel nymph
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only thing i haven't maxed out still is class xp hahaha

zenith hare
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it becomes hell till mid-late w6

zenith hare
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mines costing an eclipse coin per upgrade now

steel nymph
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wtf

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i think it's like a multi tho

zenith hare
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nah

steel nymph
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maybe idk wut im sayin

zenith hare
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I'd be at 700x class xp if it was

steel nymph
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i was at like 30x before

zenith hare
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I would LOVE that but it ain't happening

steel nymph
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now it's at like 45 or smt

zenith hare
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gaming does have a multi bonus to the lowest level char

steel nymph
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did give me a lot of coin multi tho

atomic fable
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bb might take a while to reach level 100...

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What's better for bb to reach level 100? active or afk

zenith hare
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afk easily

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also no it won't, just go to can cans

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it'll get to 120 in a day or two

atomic fable
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I'm on the genies map rn

zenith hare
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map after is cans

quasi jungle
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Going from 100 to 160 is not too shabby. I might be able to get 170 but I'm not sure if I've got enough dps rn

stray ember
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How do i get the last one

quasi jungle
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Do you have the last spice?

stray ember
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Which one is the last one?

quasi jungle
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The one at the end

stray ember
odd bane
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whats the pet lineup for 115 4 pets

quasi jungle
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Just whatever on is at the bottom of the list in teams

glacial wadi
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What is the best endgame/midgame spice setup for breeding?

indigo stratus
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how many flurbos will I be making when I'm in w5, idk if it's a waste to use w4 stones on tenacity ring

zenith hare
indigo stratus
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there are no flurbo perks/prayers?

quasi jungle
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Nope

zenith hare
zenith hare
odd bane
dusty apex
latent bramble
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there's the prayer that lets you use 20x runs at once, but that's not necessarily a rate multi and you can still get crap for flurbos hehe

zenith hare
stray ember
zenith hare
dusty apex
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its after clearing the 9 lock

pastel shuttle
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I just entered w4 not too long ago, but if all my characters except the pusher should go into lab how should I be getting resources or progress with them?

dusty apex
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all spices are unlocked after the locks

stray ember
zenith hare
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reminder that all chars in lab get a 2x bonus to the printer

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due to second node

odd bane
cold wraith
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hurray 0%

pastel shuttle
zenith hare
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easily

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plus skilling is actually bad for you

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at least for the later nodes

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as it fucks up your (future) mman

odd bane
zenith hare
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which is easily doable if you have peapod

odd bane
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i have 40ks

zenith hare
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case and point

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make sure to turn borger off auto btw

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doesn't matter much, should win with him on. but less likely to get bricked

steel nymph
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forge cap is going crazy rn bean

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I RAN OUT OF COPPER

zenith hare
steel nymph
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but at least now we can smelt a ton of bars in the matter of 2 min claims

atomic fable
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Is it normal for world 4's respawn rate to be a huge issue trying to level up all my characters?

zenith hare
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we alr could :p

odd bane
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i just spammed pets because i fprgor to turn off borger for the last 10 mins

atomic fable
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for example, bubo can't really have the fast respawn for me rn

zenith hare
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that's cause bubo can't have that till early-mid w6

pastel shuttle
zenith hare
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you want your jman to be a higher skill level

pastel shuttle
zenith hare
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yknow, the character who isn't proficient in any skill

pastel shuttle
steel nymph
odd bane
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im already 132-

naive kayak
steel nymph
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oh bean ppl say if u have godshard staff u should use it over fisticuffs right

stone gorge
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My 10th char is vman

steel nymph
stone gorge
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you'll be alright

pastel shuttle
zenith hare
odd bane
zenith hare
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no

odd bane
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wait nah they just died 140

zenith hare
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150ish

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depending on pet power

odd bane
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they were 40ks

stone gorge
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Just do Vman at like 9th or 10th character, once you hit w5 and then w6 it happens fast

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I went from like 6 chars to all 10 in like a month?

tranquil verge
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i think this is w3, when should i push for ten B again

indigo stratus
white lintel
formal flume
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woah, a couple days ago i was at 250k damage and did everything i could and got it to like 600k. Now the upgrade vault comes out and in like 2 hours im at 1.5m and gone from clawing my way through world 4 to absolutely blasting through it

white lintel
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Yea

tranquil verge
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which i guess is world four

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but the deathnote is w3

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idk where to ask it

quasi jungle
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I still haven't done that lol

white lintel
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Ok

zenith hare
tranquil verge
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no sorry for lack of context

zenith hare
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at 100m kph I pushed for 1t kills

tranquil verge
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well

white lintel
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Well, honestly just throw an archer there and get the passive gmush kills

zenith hare
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ate 7k hours of candy

tranquil verge
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i just dont wanna waste my collection

indigo stratus
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what is the use of those stones

tranquil verge
indigo stratus
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can you spend low tier weapon stones on something?

odd bane
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mmmm cnafy

indigo stratus
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oh it's equinox stuff

zenith hare
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eh not really

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by the time you gstack em, you're past 200 gstacks

pastel shuttle
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When starting out with lab, is it worth having the +skill efficiency and -skill xp prayer?

zenith hare
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test for yourself, you'll see

indigo stratus
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imo most important thing for lab is scrubs and rings

atomic fable
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Is it worth temporarily halting lab progress to afk them to level 100?

zenith hare
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it's wis

zenith hare
indigo stratus
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ring and scrubs is like 400% eff upgrade tho

atomic fable
#

It'd get me closer to 8th character slowly (I'm 35 levels away)

zenith hare
#

0 x 4 is still 0

atomic fable
#

I'm going to try to get my sb to the 2nd last map for the flies, that a good idea?

faint oasis
#

why cant i buy certain books in the library

steel nymph
#

bean which armour am i supposed to change for godshard again

steel nymph
junior karma
#

What should my first duplicate class be, im thinking Bubo for perma Lab sitting/Alch?

steel nymph
#

which gives a way to increase certain talents

#

hell, u should already have those at w2 i think

faint oasis
#

oh i see now

steel nymph
#

like wis mumbo

#

this adds more lv for the talent

#

so it would be kinda op if it was bookable

#

or not idk it's lava's decisions

faint oasis
steel nymph
#

because that's not his main stats 😭

#

u just gonna have to live with it

#

besides, u def don't have enough points for maxing out both main stats and side stats

faint oasis
atomic fable
#

I think vman eventually unlocks a talent to boost those? I could be wrong know

steel nymph
rain scroll
#

hi guys

indigo stratus
bronze moth
tacit stone
#

As for the lab, do i need to leave my char in there to afk?

bronze moth
#

yeah

atomic fable
#

is it good to try to get the SB to the map where the 2nd world 3 catching area is?

white lintel
#

If you need them for something yes

atomic fable
#

I'm locked out of shrine buildings until I do

#

since my 6th shrine requires it

cold wraith
#

it is the second to last map but since you have mk it shouldnt be too bad

atomic fable
#

At x4, I have 196% mk

cold wraith
#

eh

#

with the 2x from lab too

atomic fable
#

That actually isn't on rn, I'm trying to get my other characters caught up to level 100

cold wraith
#

ok js make sure to put it on when pushing w3

atomic fable
#

I still have 5.8k kph without it

cold wraith
#

itll go up even higher once you unlock w5 cus of gods

atomic fable
#

True, the area it does slow me down know is DK

cold wraith
#

yep

atomic fable
#

but I think rn it's fine because of how much cleanup there is to do in Late w4

cold wraith
#

cleaning up in w4?

#

i would understand catchup in w5 to push dmg or w6 for neglected skills but there shouldnt rly be much in w4

atomic fable
#

by ar, there's 5 things: Anvil, DN (Requires equinox area), Stamps, Prayers and achievements

cold wraith
#

i wont tell you how to play your game but that isnt rly necessary in w4

atomic fable
#

Oh

cold wraith
#

like i did anvil mats for all characters in a few hours in w6

#

stamps also get easier with vman and higher carry cap/prints in w6

atomic fable
#

so anvil is probably the easiest to catch up?

cold wraith
#

eh i would spend a couple coins of whatever you have a lot in

#

so like if you have void coins i would use like 1 void coin a character and also mats if you have spares

#

i wouldnt worry too much about it tho till your es has a lot more dmg

atomic fable
#

Right now with coins, I'm mostly going for this 1st

#

since I've been aware how much water is slowing alchemy progress

cold wraith
#

hm

atomic fable
#

The hardest ones is going to be cauldrons

cold wraith
#

yea cauldrons are few dem each for the last upgrades

atomic fable
#

Capacity gets expensive fast, wow

cold wraith
#

yep

strange prism
#

anyway to prevent crashing in troll boss arena, trying to complete a task but keep crashing before I hit it GuyMontag

cold wraith
#

best thing you can try is cloudsaving then restarting device

#

a couple mentions about that in bug reports but they varied tho

#

some android didnt work and others web didnt work

atomic fable
#

Okay, is this good? I just got my 3 water cauldrons maxed in pay to win

#

while in w4

cold wraith
#

nice

strange prism
#

Steam. Just checked the task and the task went up 1 so guess it registed as connecting the hit even after crashing. Missing out on the reward side but mainly did it for the task so works ig lol Grumblo_Pray

atomic fable
#

I'm running out of coins lol

strange prism
#

yea not sure whats going on cause I was able to fight it without issue on 3 other characters, but the second I tried with the 4th it crash. going for 5/5 now, hoping for the best

#

welp no issue... guess its just a bubo thing

atomic fable
#

so bubo is crashing on the troll fight?

strange prism
#

yea

atomic fable
#

that's strange

covert fractal
#

when upgrading to dementia bar equipment. is it better to use previous tier class helm or new helm?

shell lake
#

does anyone know if rift tears are best farmed with dk or es

woeful karma
#

can i "knockout" mobs afk as well or only active afk?

white lintel
#

Active only

woeful karma
#

big sage

#

sadge*

so uh
would Mman be best player to do it?
and does it count multikill n stuff?

white lintel
#

I don’t think you understand how it works

woeful karma
#

no i do not

white lintel
#

Kill something without a weapon equipped in one hit

candid summit
woeful karma
#

i am not the sharpest marble in the shed's knife drawer

woeful karma
shell lake
#

use your strongest toon and just 1 tap mobs as far as you can go without weapon and the knockout bonus applys to all toons if from vault if from grim you need to do it in wraith form on db

woeful karma
shell lake
#

start with 1st mob then it will say go to frogs then beens

candid summit
#

i wonder why thers a portal behind the door

woeful karma
shell lake
#

its most mobs in order of health that they have

woeful karma
#

i see i see

#

will it do blood bones before W4?

shell lake
#

nope

#

havn't had it do blood bones and i've already finished tremor worms on world 5

#

it did do dedidated rams though

woeful karma
#

ah im understanding this now kinda

#

ty
this will bea lot easier

#

i thought it was grind 1 mob a lot active with no weps or MK

shell lake
#

for every mob you get that % dmg boost so more mobs is bigger number

woeful karma
#

oh my god why is there carrots inthe backgroud of carrot map

#

this is new?

shell lake
#

seems to be

woeful karma
#

oh and gublins too

#

this is like a free apocolypse thing
thats amazing

#

this is probably the best update ive had since orion

undone knoll
#

They gonna nerd it

candid summit
#

sorry im big dumb
when it says keep old rotation bonuses, does it mean that the fact that accuracy was lvl12 last time was kept only or that any bonus ive bought in the past still applies?
like for example does the refinery speed i bought last rotation still apply?

forest portal
#

yes any bounese u buy is permanent

candid summit
#

oh poggies thanks!

junior girder
#

hey yall! sorry if this is a commonly asked question, i looked it up and all i found was a two year old reddit post and i figured that the meta has probably changed ahaha

i got my 8th player and i dunno what to make them, i have one of each class so im not missing anyone

woeful karma
#

iirc its 3 of each class then 1 of the hidden class

undone knoll
forest portal
#

is sb still better then bb?

undone knoll
#

2bb
2dk

#

1 of each archers

#

And for ds im not sure cuz doot

#

If you have doot then 1 ds if not then 2 ds and 1 bubo

forest portal
#

what is ds?

undone knoll
#

BUT i still prefer the 3 of each classes and 1 secret class

undone knoll
junior girder
#

cool thank you so much!! i assume it doesnt matter too much if i get bb or dk first?

forest portal
#

i think lm to use to seeing es

woeful karma
#

same

undone knoll
woeful karma
#

did ES master class come out?

zenith hare
undone knoll
#

If your w5 then dk other wise bb first

zenith hare
#

oop forgor to remove reply

forest portal
#

no prob going to be boubo and bm

undone knoll
#

Ops

#

Es no ds

forest portal
#

l think

undone knoll
#

My bad

zenith hare
#

I'm still not used to DB tbh

forest portal
#

true

undone knoll
forest portal
#

l guess we idle on players cant read

undone knoll
zenith hare
#

it's more the fact it's instinct to say bb now

undone knoll
#

Btw guys what ya think about vault update?

forest portal
#

vgood

twilit flax
#

Haven’t gotten it

forest portal
#

rip

undone knoll
#

I think its a bit op

zenith hare
undone knoll
#

And they would nerf it kinda
IF they didn't nerf it then good for us more sources to get op

twilit flax
forest portal
#

l ant complaning tho

zenith hare
#

main focus was early game players

forest portal
#

to go form like w1 to w5 tbh

zenith hare
#

personally I didn't feel too much difference, 50% increase in damage and like 4x coins but that's it

#

and ofc afk% ig

forest portal
#

the coins are so good bruh

undone knoll
#

My coin was 20-30k% after vault it becomes 150k%

forest portal
#

and that 75%dr

short kite
#

75%dr is also pretty nice midgame

woeful karma
undone knoll
woeful karma
short kite
undone knoll
#

And exp + efficiency increase

woeful karma
#

i can now get half a void coin in 1 hour worth of time candy

forest portal
#

damage acculay ok due to pow

undone knoll
woeful karma
#

3

undone knoll
woeful karma
#

but im one of the strongest W3ers youll find

undone knoll
#

Void coin in w3 is crazy

forest portal
#

nice

woeful karma
#

i am for sure the strongest W1er and strongest W2er

undone knoll
woeful karma
#

no one would be as insaine as i was to get the GSB vial in W2

undone knoll
#

I well be the judge

forest portal
#

l think w6 are the best w1 players

zenith hare
#

they can kill kruk rn

#

and w4 isn't unlocked

undone knoll
zenith hare
#

they can kill kruk easily even

woeful karma
#

plus i need to remake my wep

#

but aside from that i feel like its doing pretty good

atomic fable
#

That's more damage than even me in world 4

forest portal
#

fr

woeful karma
#

might go higher if i optimize it

forest portal
#

ldk why lava even nef bosses

twilit flax
woeful karma
#

very close to half a void coin an hour
very doable

woeful karma
#

XD

#

i had golden numbers when i left W1 iirc?

undone knoll
forest portal
#

mining ore now gives so much gold

undone knoll
#

These is joke

woeful karma
undone knoll
woeful karma
#

im still using W2 shit exvepot foir the wep

forest portal
#

go chizore helm

undone knoll
#

You can kill w5 boss with that stats

woeful karma
undone knoll
#

YOU KNOW HOW MUCH PROGRESS YOU LOST IN W4 AND ABOVE

#

Omg

woeful karma
#

nice

forest portal
#

yes but still keep it if it give skilling stats

woeful karma
#

good to know my future is looking decent

woeful karma
forest portal
#

l think he didnt skip alch

woeful karma
#

i just dont know what chiz helm is

atomic fable
#

This is my stats in late w4

undone knoll
atomic fable
#

on my SB

woeful karma
#

also wdym a lot

undone knoll
#

These is madness

woeful karma
#

im assuming you mean how much progress ive missed out on?

atomic fable
#

A lot of the world 4 skills are time gated

forest portal
#

and w5 and 6

undone knoll
zenith hare
atomic fable
#

I don't have the stats for w5 pushing

woeful karma
forest portal
#

but why u dont want go w4

undone knoll
woeful karma
#

because
w4 scary

forest portal
#

na

atomic fable
#

This is my DK stats, this should be more than enough to push through world 4

twilit flax
undone knoll
woeful karma
twilit flax
forest portal
#

wtb the prints?

woeful karma
undone knoll
woeful karma
twilit flax
woeful karma
#

nowhere near as strong as my barb

forest portal
#

l thought 20b?

#

wait nvm

undone knoll
forest portal
#

if crit

twilit flax
woeful karma
atomic fable
#

I can't 1 shot normal even with a crit

twilit flax
undone knoll
#

Easily 1 shot

#

But honestly why do you doing these

forest portal
#

u doing nightmare only?

undone knoll
#

Challenge or something?

woeful karma
forest portal
#

lol

woeful karma
#

but seeing as i cant get W4 keys in W3

#

ive loosned that to also include normal bosses too

woeful karma
undone knoll
woeful karma
woeful karma
#

i tried killing it with Jman

#

i could kjill chaotic amarok

#

but the floor wide death spikes was the run ender

undone knoll
twilit flax
#

Bro has me rethinking my 1M damage on my blood berserker

woeful karma
#

i got enough golden food and heals to do it

woeful karma
undone knoll
woeful karma
woeful karma
white lintel
#

Zuiq is a real gamer

twilit flax
woeful karma
#

so W3 was really a massive game changer aside from this new vault thing

wispy crescent
#

Weekly battle?

woeful karma
wispy crescent
#

Is there a guide for that?

forest portal
#

lol

woeful karma
undone knoll
woeful karma
#

!weekly

woeful karma
undone knoll
woeful karma
#

!weeklyboss

candid scarabBOT
atomic fable
#

Good score? (1st time getting the achievement)

woeful karma
#

i think i have an account that is under a week or two old

#

idk if i still have it

#

but uh
i ended up changing emails

undone knoll
woeful karma
#

so idk where that one is

woeful karma
undone knoll
#

The only account?

woeful karma
#

only oen i play on yea

twilit flax
woeful karma
#

had it for over 3 years now

undone knoll
#

Damn

woeful karma
#

first year and a halfish was me being an idiot not even knowing how to play the game

#

i regret my names somewhat

white lintel
#

Everyone does

woeful karma
#

manly this bro

white lintel
#

I have some real bad names

undone knoll
twilit flax
#

I’m world early world 4 with 120lvl characters

woeful karma
#

ik it sucks

#

it was my second
at least my main is named aptly

undone knoll
woeful karma
#

hoenstly this was my next biggest fumble in naming

I wanted to just call it

GGYT

somehow i made it late at night
decided to be braindead and say
nahhhh
ima slap Maestro onto that GGYT!

woeful karma
undone knoll
woeful karma
#

yeah
maybe in a few months
or close to a year
idk yet

#

what i do know is im looking forward to getting the final two shrines

#

their going to be huge

undone knoll
woeful karma
#

rn its just the salt watiing game
(conversions)

#

i have the red salts
its just being converted slwoly

undone knoll
#

You don't have doot?

woeful karma
#

nope

white lintel
#

He’s in w3

woeful karma
#

waitpet or card

white lintel
#

What good would doot do

undone knoll
woeful karma
#

and others ig

#

seeing as id be sitting on a useless doot for ayear or trwo

undone knoll
#

But atleast we know he can have all divinitys in w5 when he whant to go there

twilit flax
#

Doot is useless till w5

woeful karma
#

i still have so much stuff i want to get done

#

alas
a lot of it is salt locked

undone knoll
woeful karma
#

working on this salt
im getting there
i have the red salt
just am slowly converting it

white lintel
#

Oh no

#

You’re doing refinery

#

Without the speed bonuses

atomic fable
#

Don't have green salts at auto refine

woeful karma
#

tho i am trying to rank up my orange salts so it converts faster

white lintel
woeful karma
atomic fable
#

Oh

#

Oh, I see, fair

woeful karma
undone knoll
#

Honestly hes really special

woeful karma
white lintel
#

He’s a real gamer, he was in w1 for over a year, w2 for a few months, and now gonna spend a year or so in w3 I think

atomic fable
# woeful karma

You're gaining blue salts btw since green production is 1/4 speed

woeful karma
woeful karma
#

thanks
didnt htink about that

woeful karma
#

ive not even been in W3 for a month
idk what my goals are really

white lintel
#

Ehh

#

W3 is pretty foundational but it’s not that good for stuff to do by itself

woeful karma
#

i mean im working on EQ and other things

white lintel
#

But lots of stuff relies on it

woeful karma
#

true

#

only 3 more upgrades until i have to wait again for a while :(

white lintel
#

Bro has liquidvestment holy shit

#

God I love you

woeful karma
woeful karma
white lintel
#

People usually done get that for a long time honestly

woeful karma
#

ah

white lintel
#

Like w4-5 ish

atomic fable
#

Is it odd that I have all my characters outside of lab to gain levels?

woeful karma
#

im working on this atm btw

white lintel
#

It’s the bunk talent

#

Bubo

atomic fable
#

Earlier I had them all in lab, but right now, I have them on fighting to try to gain levels for 8th character

twilit flax
#

The pain of being an iOS player

rain scroll
#

hi

robust marsh
#

Hi

atomic fable
#

Hi

rain scroll
#

what should i do rn ;-;

atomic fable
#

I'm not sure when would be ideal for me to start going for vman since I'm only level 93

#

on my maestro

undone knoll
#

The coin boost is just wow

north compass
#

lots more money happytroll

lilac wharf
#

Anybody have tips on how to up lab?

north compass
lilac wharf
#

Thank you

atomic fable
#

Is this bad? (i'll explain why it's like this)

robust marsh
#

No why?

north compass
icy carbon
#

more active on bubo = more gains though

atomic fable
#

for SB - Trying to unlock the map for the flies
For ES - Trying to go for Equinox Map
The rest of them are trying to gain levels towards 8th character

north compass
#

how long is 8th character gonna take likely for you

atomic fable
#

I'm 25 levels away total

north compass
#

thats not bad then

atomic fable
#

It's 26, was 1 off

north compass
#

for the equinox part, can you do any of these tho

robust marsh
#

That is good enough

north compass
#

because i would say just ignore equinox for now

#

after you get that 8th character then put them to lab and push again happytroll

rain lynx
#

How to make bubo the ultimate capitalist

north compass
#

also what are the flies even for i forgot GuyMontag

north compass
undone knoll
atomic fable
rain lynx
#

I mean it takes me atleast a month to get one starfire coin

undone knoll
#

For ever

rain lynx
#

So might as well

north compass
#

so just send es to level up for sooner 8th character happytroll

atomic fable
#

There's actually another reason - You know dn, right?

north compass
#

ofc, but i dont see any way that would help you this early on

#

especially in w3 IdleHMMMM

atomic fable
#

I'm trying to unlock the map so that vman is possible near the start of w5

#

I am aware I have to get the maestro to Level 150

north compass
#

might as well wait till w5 to do that since it could be 4x faster at least

#

for the kills

atomic fable
#

Wait, why do I need dn at tier 3 by late w4

north compass
#

idk you tell me

atomic fable
#

It's what ar is saying

north compass
#

you need 1m kills on w1-3 for vman but thats it

#

again, might as well just do that in w5

north compass
rain scroll
#

i messed up run at start sheesh

atomic fable
#

What's even weirder is greenstacks (Part of equinox) is late w5

north compass
#

because you really dont need equinox or greenstacks that early on happytroll

latent bramble
#

yes, because equinox was introduced as a w5 mechanic, similar to rift
and with the speed that most people push, you're hard pressed to even have 1 gs by the time you get to w5

atomic fable
#

I have 2 gs

latent bramble
#

don't even have the lab progress to get the damage bonus from gs LUL

rain scroll
#

how to collect this i died wave 7

#

im not able to click it

north compass
rain scroll
#

what about the soul

north compass
#

maybe same reason

rain scroll
#

i shouldve got atleast a few soul

north compass
#

idk, wave 7 is really early

atomic fable
#

I think the earliest you can gain souls is wave 11

north compass
#

not even a full 11

rain scroll
#

give me strat for it i tried something weird from endgame and well rip

latent bramble
#

calling pancake's guides something weird GuyMontag

rain scroll
#

its good but not for me atm im noob

north compass
rain scroll
#

ok this time i cleared wave 10

rain scroll
#

with diff setup i took the idea but changed a bit

atomic fable
#

You think I have the right idea going for dn, but in the wrong order?

latent bramble
#

sounds like a case of git gud GuyMontag

atomic fable
#

like the w5 and dn the wrong way round

jade ruin
#

So I just got to the troll for the first time in the game. Both times I entered it suddenly froze up after about a minute. I never have this problem in the game otherwise. Anyone else know what it is or have this problem too?

north compass
#

No idea

jade ruin
#

No I am on the computer

rain scroll
#

lets see what happens

#

maybe ill lose yea probably cuz no bm

#

close tho

north compass
#

How the hell did you go from wave 7 to beating 70 GuyMontag

rain scroll
latent bramble
rain scroll
green forge
rain scroll
wispy crescent
#

Kangaroo guide?

atomic fable
#

Is it a good idea for the final w4 push to get as many time candies as I can?

rain scroll
latent bramble
north compass
#

Then git gud

rain scroll
#

wait this is new

north compass
#

What is

green forge
#

then go and max em

rain scroll
#

i got godshard/breezy soul vial

north compass
#

Oh yea

rain scroll
north compass
#

Well still, git gud

green forge
#

use the vman to sample all monster vials

rain scroll
#

i have sample on vman of gmush which i did normally (no speedrun)

#

idk how to effectively do speedrun i tried hard and got 45 portals i think/

#

last time been a few weeks

green forge
#

if only theres guides pinned somewhere...

rain scroll
#

reading hard happytroll

green forge
#

average idleon player

rain scroll
#

so what do i do

#

also my vman is deprived of gear

green forge
rain scroll
#

😭

modern gate
#

How do I get a bonus from the lab?

latent bramble
#

put people into lab, move them around on the board to light it up

#

more levels will give longer connection range between players

atomic fable
#

Okay, I managed to get a 12 hour time candy, good start?

rain scroll
#

from where

atomic fable
#

From this guy

#

I've capped it for ES for now

rain scroll
#

nice

indigo basin
#

Is there a bug with tome? I was in top 1% before the update, now im top 95%...

rain scroll
#

r u sure?

indigo basin
#

Yea i have clearly more than 1015pts here

rain scroll
#

try relogging in

#

restart the game

indigo basin
#

I already reinstalled

#

Its been like this since the update

modern gate
#

are any of these bonuses worth getting

rain scroll
#

reinstall? we said restart just oh maybe

rain scroll
#

get 1 kitchen to ritchelin

nimble saddle
#

should I rush to boss in w3 so I can unlock w4 and start cooking earlier? (Im 2 areas away from boss)

shell lake
#

do people leave vman on cog board for xp so he is highest level in construction or just 2 dks?

candid summit
#

i put everyone in cog board, may i ask where else they would go?

vast nimbus
#

Where do I Fram ribcages now since quenchies don't drop them anymore?

shell lake
#

sheepies lol

vast nimbus
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Frfr?

shell lake
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ye check codex

vast nimbus
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Ty

shell lake
steel nymph
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just without the vman

dense pine
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DKs on board, everyone else on cogs

steel nymph
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finally hit tht coin multi with my dr 🔥

shell lake
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thanks wasn't sure on vman

steel nymph
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whyGrumblo_disappointed

atomic fable
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Is it good to unlock a ton of stamps from 1 quest since I'm in w4 doing clean up?

rain scroll
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idk when it became this high but how to increase more?

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it was 3d before

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(some days ago)

north root
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got molti woohooo

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is he good?

rain scroll
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u will get it alot later xD

north root
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i cant even see anything

atomic fable
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Is this worth it? (Bill brr quest)

rain scroll
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ofc

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u give 9h and get 12h

exotic swallow
shell lake
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once you get tachion of titans it will happen in no time

rain scroll
exotic swallow
rain scroll
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thats lv 80 one eee

sleek stone
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Damn pushin w5 been easy with nobi

rain scroll
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lets go void egg!