#midgame-chat-w3🧊w4🔮
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guys when should i start the skilling farm for journey man to maestro my journey man currently is level 75
me very lazy
meaning no need to hide it
asap
jman useless for anything else, so start now
Don't mobile it haha
how do i collect the monster ratig?
https://idleon.wiki/wiki/Monster_Rating 5seconds of googling
i was on wiki already bro 😦
then it's right there in your face
sorry dude
better to build up good habits than having to be spoonfed every bit of information, I'm not against you, dont take it personally
Heya, is there a 'best' money farming method from worlds 1-4?
When I looked up guides they're kind of end-game focused 😂
how do i get to the next mining area? The portal is green but doesnt work
w4 is basically a good source of money
going to wiki is also getting spoonfed information as much
Is there a certain method? I entered w4 not too long ago.
do your elite quests first and foremost, they give a ton for a new player
Was focusing on horizontal progression since a different guide said I could chill more on w4 instead of pushing hard.
you need mining lvl 60 afaik
Yeah did those, atm I'm active farming those jellies with bones in 'em with DK to get the next portal.
Although it isn't too fast for me.
do your vault upgrades
have a secondary miner on copper for example, give it mining food and gear, equip afk + mining cards
Doing those as we speak 😂 they seem sick and a huge source of power.
thanks, seems like the portal is broken and doesnt show

the portal on the right is a placeholder
@pastel shuttle have you reached the monster cash node in lab yet?
I must admit I kind of skipped out on lab until now to gather more resources for characters and mostly for DK to funnel him. Also I still don't get it 100% even watching a short guide. Should watch it again probably.
bzzzz, big bad
It seemed such a waste to let someone stand in lab, noob take I suppose.
Darnit 😭
Was also doing achievements with other alts recommended by the auto review tool
idk what is the priority stamp anymore
if you are not sweating progression, you can take your time, but w5 is gonna help a ton
and killer's brightside doubles your kills, so you are halving portal progression time
reaching the shrine node also speeds up things as you'll have all the effects in the same world you placed them in, and if you have all the characters in lab, you gain huge amounts of time towards your shrines @pastel shuttle
ppl usually place them on the dining table 
question for wld 3
on the 3rd area theres 2 portals 1 to go furhter into the map towards boss and one thats like 90k kils
come back later
is it worth to grind there to get the kills for the portal up top?
yes, towards rams, you'll do that later
nah, keep going towards boss and w4
you dont need to worry about those maps yet
should i also grind for the anvil 3 weapons? while oging for boss
dont really need those for w3
aight sweet
progress your anvil as you see fit and have the materials for tab unlock item
With the W4 stones putting main stat on your stuff
Is it better to put main stat on it for damage? Or secondary stat for accuracy?
but with vault upgrades, it's definitely not necessary
depends what you need
if you lack accuracy, definitely do that

especially for DK's precision passive
the rest is really up to you, you need like 18k accuracy at the end of w4
based on this image, is there something im probably negleting?
yeah, your library
oh yae this exist
your checkout speed goes down with every book sitting there
😭 ahh man it's time to lab when I get to it shortly
Ty for the advice
just made it into world 3 a day ago and am trying to get the hang of sampling. How does it work? im curently copying (if thats what you call it) 46 copper on my squire
how do i make more than 46 copper per hour
get more mining efficiency or sampling%
im at 5k effecieny
whatever increases the amount of resource youd regularly get afking increasing your sample size
i see
alchemy, cards, stamps, star signs etc
amarok card, mining cards, up-to-date tools with current highest upgrade stones, if available, mining food
also trying to get the hand of cogs and worshipping tbf
dungeon books
i do amrok daily 🙂

up to the milky way candy
is ti possible to connect all of those?
any armour sets
i should focus towards
also swords
trying to get more damage although i think i do decently
amarok is fine for a long time
you'll want to switch from amarok maybe around dementia, or void
until then, recraft your amaroks if you go to a higher world because of better stones
yes
maybe you need more bonus from summoning or equinox, but ik i can
Yo meme bean got the king dedede pfp
Equinox is at 9/10 rn
So its provablt summoning
Is the deathbringer class worth it? Dont know what it does
How do i get 3d sampling talent? didnt appear after unlocking 3d printer
do the w3 quests from the npc
gotcha, ty
anyone have a pet foraging team guide/spreadsheet
!guide
Mid-Late Game guide for World 3 / 4 / 5:
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/e/2PACX-1vSCepYAs6sNDP4iq6MJNAG1pvFXzfC_3IQ7ttt5vfEEKAgQhIk4cQqnLRyeH6UyqDSuP4R-6WQeDmmP/pubhtml
Video Guides (by GriffyBit):
https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLVGSDQs1AcvjYTAPtYV6ofbeeEfHpEcb4
For most people no, until you get to the point where you need the expanded liquid cap
If you know you'll be afk for a week or something then it might be useful if you want to come back and upgrade a bunch of bubbles
had it for a while now :p
alright thx
...
I was afk for 526 hours
Would it be better if i had this on?
What's the happy dog bonus from upgrade vault?
did you read the second half of my sentence? 
having a smaller cap just means you get more liquid to throw into upgrades which isn't bad, though if you're not at 99% equinox, then you're also losing out on liquid 
just depends on what you want to upgrade
You think I can max this out before w5 start?
with the new coin bonus ya maybe
I can hit void coins in w4 now
should be able to
i maxxed most of my cauldrons while in w4 at least
I managed to get nearly 10 levels on my sb in about 3 hours
im still learning alot of the mechanics and stuff in this game but how worth it is it to do the star signs?? i dont think ive done any yet
easily
later on its pretty worth, but early on its minor bonuses. think of it this way: more you do it, the better it gets (think 25% damage bonuses, 10% acc/defence increases, etc)
ah right
so i should grind and get them now so later game i dont have to stress essentially?
I can't do megacrit yet
atleast the easy ones, yes get them
it adds up over time, and most w1-3 is very easy
hardest imo is mage to platinum map
everything else is just you progressing or spending a night in a map
aight cheers g
Does getting over 100% crit doing anything for towers during worship?
Didn't know if it worked like that or not
i cant remember what the other thing that lets you remained connected to lab when you dont have characters in tubes besides the god link
Pretty sure it's just the god link but through doot
yeah only bear god I reckon
then how i still linked in lab but not using bear
doot or pocket divinity with bear on?
Are you in divinity?
doesnt have doot, and linked to goat
only other thing would be bear on pocket divinity
-# which dadoums mentioned

and what are your char doing?
2 killing mobs, with my on deathbringy, with rest at monument
hole
?
maybe if we keep saying it he'll continue to ignore us
yeah that
yeah like E said only other way would be from pocket divinity in hole like I said as well
<- has memory issue, cant remember everthing so saying something i might not have active memory of without any context might not help out
!build
every guide i have seen shows crit trait stopping at 100% so i would say no, anything above probably does nothing
what was the command to check gear progress?
was trying to remember this, X_X but brain kept failing me
!gear
thanks
Is it good that I've leveled up my SB a bit to help towards my 8th character?
rip !gear2 people will not remember you 
Finally going through and upgrading all my worship runs lol
I got it from level 86 to 95 in about 3.5 hours
Went from 110 on goblin to 160 lol
tbf it was extremely outdated
you using pancakes guides? he has the best TD setups
Uh, idk just found a random guide that looked good enough haha
gear2 was temporarily our current gear command while it was being tested 
Doesn't look like that's what I'm using
I thought it was gonna stay that way forever
Where are their guides?
just got a 17k borger and went from like round 45 to now I'm almost 75, still going atm
is this high enough for it to be worth upgrading? (I've not been trying to build it up, I've been letting auto use it during levelling up SB)
where are owls?
I don't think I understand his guides haha
up the trees in red mushroom map
ty
which part is confusing you, some of his later ones got a bit funny, but if you are still doing 160 for the first TD, you can probably do some earlier set ups that are easier to follow
2nd SB 
Just put 1 point in it for now? Along with 1 point in Symbols
The main part throwing me off is he's got 4 setups shown, but I don't fully understand why
For the most part, just stick with the top left or first image. That should be good enough for anything below the waves he's recommending
If you're pushing far, then read through it and he should say when to swap to different setups
which one are you looking at, they are different progress points
I'm looking at w3 right now
I'm a little bit behind on tower levels from what he mentions so I don't expect to go quite as far as what he's got. I'm also kinda lazy so that's a factor too haha
#endgame-gen-chat message
this is his 190 wave run, and easier to follow
top picture is standard setup, bottom is a dps mode to clear boss wave for wave 180 and 190
!merit3
1️⃣ One point into Telekinetic Storage which has an ability to deposit all items in your inventory into the chest while destroying everything on the ground. This is a great quality of life feature. Skip this if you have the ram companion.
2️⃣ Buy until you have 3 building spots and 3 food slots. This can be between 0 and 2 purchases depending on gem shop purchases. Food slots will help your pusher go faster and 3 building spots is a 50% construction speed boost.
3️⃣ Talent levels are hugely important and the library should be used as much as possible.
4️⃣ The 3D printer will be how you get most of you skilling materials in the future. To make good use of it you need your sample size to be as close to the 90% cap as possible.
5️⃣ Buy the rest. More slots = more better.
6️⃣ Leveling telekinetic storage gives up to +13.6% Carry Cap which is good for afking longer, stamps and crafting, but is not a priority early on.
7️⃣ You won't get enough points to consider buying respawn for a long time by which you will have cleared all W3 portals.
Get the first level when you reach rank 3 on orange salt and get another level each time a new salt reaches rank 3.
⚔️ The last recipe is for the Chizoars Caustic Scarf which is best in slot for a long time giving both damage and respawn. Get this when you can complete the associated task of beating Chizoar with 8 characters. Other recipes are for Chizoar gear. The helmet gives +15% damage and can be considered if you are making purple salt. The other pieces are mediocre but some make the chestplate for 3% damage.
Thanks, I'll try it out
i have two questions about "Trap Box Vacuum" from rift 6, 1. is shiny chance determined by the player the trap is assigned to or hunter/beast master shiny chance? and 2. would it be best to set all traps on 20 minutes because it is automatic
!merit4
1️⃣ Buy one point of spice spillage. This gives you up to a 20% chance to claim all your spices when claiming over an hour of afk gains. Since spices generate more slowly the more you have produced since last claim this will improve spice production.
2️⃣ Having more bubbles get upgraded each day will help a lot, especially when combined with buffs giving more levels per bubble. Only buy this if you can reach the No Bubble Left Behind node in the lab.
3️⃣ Egg capacity is limited and every time the hatchery fills up eggs are wasted until you unlock the rarity upgrade. Also helps you get two achievements with good rewards requiring egg capacity.
4️⃣ Allows you to connect to lab bonuses from slightly farther away which can reduce the number of characters needed in the lab. Note that the max distance between characters, which is called line width, doesn't increase.
5️⃣ Improves kills per hour in W4 but since you likely won't be pushing W4 portals for long this is relatively low priority.
6️⃣ Max level spice spillage triggers every time. They are lower priority since it takes a lot of star talent points and is likely to trigger several times in a row when checking multiple characters.
7️⃣ 3 crystal mobs per day is very little.
Unlocks the recipes for troll armor giving all stat% and the base for all further armor upgrades. It is great but require plenty of Nullo Salt. Don't buy it if you can't craft them.
It's not fully automatic, it's automatic every 24 hours
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oh thanks sorry for flooding
iOS is always late to updates, check on steam/web/android instead
did you do the update?
ios LOVES to be like 3 days behind on updates as their update releasing system sucks
3 days is generous
lol guide says get KRAKEN to 0.33 I'm sitting here wondering how he got POISON to 0.33 with 4 party lol
Comprehension level 0 lol
Yeah, I was looking at the wrong tower lol
poison cant
poison levels up damage, kraken levels up attack speed
16 As and 4 Bs is normally what people do
though higher level kraken allows less As
so you can get more Bs for damage
woohoo world 5
gz
wait there dialog for me waiting here hol up
aw it teleported me out):
I thought I found a secret
what exactly is the upgrade vault?
Bonus
is upgrade vault good?
Nah not worth it do not upgrade it
wait wut
Me when I lie
you heard the man. no upgrading 

Is level 100 a good threshold to stop at for world 4 on all my characters? (It's taking around 4-5 hours for my SB to reach level 86 to 100 nearly)
is there a tome tracker for owl stuff?
Im 2/3 of the way through world 4 and my bubo who I've been pushing with just hit 150
I started w4 with my main pusher as lvl 100 so
I was also late to start
So does this mean I have 136.9% with the (+46.9) my Royal Samples gives +44% does that mean I can turn this damn prayer off?
Eh when I get to thise weekend and resample I'll check but I'm really hoping so -87% XP gain isn't a ton but it would help level just a 🤏 faster.
is VIP library bugged sometimes?? I click checkout book, and nothing happens. but it uses my checkouts.
How do you even level cooking past 50?
balloons
check your item filter
youve filtered star talent books
oh no. I thought that was specifically for one star book I got sick of dropping....
it's barely anything, which is why it's recommended to use it 
I understand now why Pancake uses a dps setup for bosses lol
Only on wave 150, can't imagine on 180/190 lol
just finish the quest
I might have to leave this going overnight lol
just a btw, boss waves has a 9999 second timer on em
I would if I remember which quest it was 
its why people cant go on forever
one of the pigs
w1/2 quest
damn you piiiiiiiigs! it's always the pigs...
That's good to know lol
Well looks like 150 or 160 will be my cap for now
So you can also clear boss waves if you stall long enough?
how does construction exp work?
Okay, is it good that I'm starting to get my characters to level 100?
ye
Since my lowest level character will get boosted exp, is it better to go highest to lowest?
the opposite
Oh
you have a 9999 second timer till the next wave comes
Ooh, so if it times out, that's bad?
it just starts the next wave
normally is bad yeah
but remember for your best wave to be recorded everything needs to be dead
but sometimes, if the boss wave was like 2 big enemies then a lot of smaller ones you can get higher
hence the dps build for 180 and 190 bosses at once
there are a couple of spots where you can drag the 180 boss to 190 and kill them both together since 190 is easier then 180
don't ask why it's easier, it just is :p
When do you think I should do tower defence runs again?
when you think you can get another 10-20 waves in
1 td I probably will have to redo soon is the world 3 totem
Hello I have returned after a long while.
Ya think my ES can outspeed my DK in rushing w4?
If I slap on some Dementia armor of course and keep DK on mining Dementia for the rest.
Yes
I made that mistake earlier on, my DK is level 64 mining
printer suffices well enough
My DK and Jman will do mining (Cuz Jman needs skilling lvls)
yes and your jman needs to be a higher level then ur dk
Why?
y’all know why my prints went from purple to yellow
mman gives a near 2.2x account wide efficency bonus to all chars who are lower skill level then him
you're no longer in lab
4525.7t dmg increase just from vault alone
Which could be great for samples...
if only i had more kills on those specific monsters
it's incredible for samples yes
mman will catch back up eventually but...yeah
only thing i haven't maxed out still is class xp 
it becomes hell till mid-late w6
no one has afaia
mines costing an eclipse coin per upgrade now
nah
maybe idk wut im sayin
I'd be at 700x class xp if it was
i was at like 30x before
I would LOVE that but it ain't happening
now it's at like 45 or smt
gaming does have a multi bonus to the lowest level char
did give me a lot of coin multi tho
bb might take a while to reach level 100...
What's better for bb to reach level 100? active or afk
I'm on the genies map rn
map after is cans
Going from 100 to 160 is not too shabby. I might be able to get 170 but I'm not sure if I've got enough dps rn
How do i get the last one
Do you have the last spice?
Which one is the last one?
The one at the end
whats the pet lineup for 115 4 pets
Just whatever on is at the bottom of the list in teams
What is the best endgame/midgame spice setup for breeding?
how many flurbos will I be making when I'm in w5, idk if it's a waste to use w4 stones on tenacity ring
wode board, converter, borger, forager
flurbos isn't based on world
there are no flurbo perks/prayers?
Nope
peapod, looter, refiller, borger
one prayer but it's easy to get
in order from left to right
you are missing a spice which you need for the meal
there's the prayer that lets you use 20x runs at once, but that's not necessarily a rate multi and you can still get crap for flurbos 
ye
Alr which w6 area do i need to be at?
eggs, map after sky doggies
its after clearing the 9 lock
I just entered w4 not too long ago, but if all my characters except the pusher should go into lab how should I be getting resources or progress with them?
the printer
all spices are unlocked after the locks
Alr, im almost there
is there a average lvl i should have
Is that enough though? I was also progressing my alts through map 1-3 for daily boss keys.
easily
plus skilling is actually bad for you
at least for the later nodes
as it fucks up your (future) mman
should i turn off auto use borger
like 10k
which is easily doable if you have peapod
i have 40ks
case and point
make sure to turn borger off auto btw
doesn't matter much, should win with him on. but less likely to get bricked
I run out of godshard in one archer claim
but at least now we can smelt a ton of bars in the matter of 2 min claims
Is it normal for world 4's respawn rate to be a huge issue trying to level up all my characters?
we alr could :p
wdym
i just spammed pets because i fprgor to turn off borger for the last 10 mins
for example, bubo can't really have the fast respawn for me rn
that's cause bubo can't have that till early-mid w6
I don't understand, why is skilling bad?
you want your jman to be a higher skill level
I'm so screwed...
yknow, the character who isn't proficient in any skill
I made my 6th char another DK for construction maybe my 7th will be jman.
oh ye forgot hehe
'another' oh boy, what chars do you have xd
oh bean ppl say if u have godshard staff u should use it over fisticuffs right
My 10th char is vman
hi emmiiieee 
you'll be alright
BB, ES, DK, BM, SB, Bubo, DK. Sorry 7th character is my 2nd DK. I meant maybe my 8th character will be a jman.
far enough
yes due to range
200?
no
wait nah they just died 140
they were 40ks
Just do Vman at like 9th or 10th character, once you hit w5 and then w6 it happens fast
I went from like 6 chars to all 10 in like a month?
i think this is w3, when should i push for ten B again
hi
Not sure what you’re asking
woah, a couple days ago i was at 250k damage and did everything i could and got it to like 600k. Now the upgrade vault comes out and in like 2 hours im at 1.5m and gone from clawing my way through world 4 to absolutely blasting through it
Yea
Ten billion gmush kills for lab
which i guess is world four
but the deathnote is w3
idk where to ask it
I still haven't done that lol
I thought you were showing a random mob in w3
Ok
when you think you can
no sorry for lack of context
at 100m kph I pushed for 1t kills
well
Well, honestly just throw an archer there and get the passive gmush kills
ate 7k hours of candy
what is the use of those stones
eventaully gstack
can you spend low tier weapon stones on something?
nope
oh it's equinox stuff
When starting out with lab, is it worth having the +skill efficiency and -skill xp prayer?
test for yourself, you'll see
imo most important thing for lab is scrubs and rings
Is it worth temporarily halting lab progress to afk them to level 100?
it's wis
if you think it'll help
ring and scrubs is like 400% eff upgrade tho
It'd get me closer to 8th character slowly (I'm 35 levels away)
and wis is how that eff scales up
0 x 4 is still 0
I'm going to try to get my sb to the 2nd last map for the flies, that a good idea?
why cant i buy certain books in the library
bean which armour am i supposed to change for godshard again
because there's already a way to increase them already
how
What should my first duplicate class be, im thinking Bubo for perma Lab sitting/Alch?
assuming ur in w3 u should have the third classes by now
which gives a way to increase certain talents
hell, u should already have those at w2 i think
oh i see now
like wis mumbo
this adds more lv for the talent
so it would be kinda op if it was bookable
or not idk it's lava's decisions
i still cant add more for quickness boots as a bubo
because that's not his main stats 😭
u just gonna have to live with it
besides, u def don't have enough points for maxing out both main stats and side stats
im gonna have to leave it at lvl 100?
I think vman eventually unlocks a talent to boost those? I could be wrong know
well there's ways to increase it in the future but the talent lv is still technically gonna be still at lv100
yep there is, anyways gtg
hi guys
Weirdo
ello
As for the lab, do i need to leave my char in there to afk?
yeah
is it good to try to get the SB to the map where the 2nd world 3 catching area is?
If you need them for something yes
why not
it is the second to last map but since you have mk it shouldnt be too bad
At x4, I have 196% mk
That actually isn't on rn, I'm trying to get my other characters caught up to level 100
ok js make sure to put it on when pushing w3
I still have 5.8k kph without it
itll go up even higher once you unlock w5 cus of gods
True, the area it does slow me down know is DK
yep
but I think rn it's fine because of how much cleanup there is to do in Late w4
cleaning up in w4?
i would understand catchup in w5 to push dmg or w6 for neglected skills but there shouldnt rly be much in w4
by ar, there's 5 things: Anvil, DN (Requires equinox area), Stamps, Prayers and achievements
i wont tell you how to play your game but that isnt rly necessary in w4
Oh
like i did anvil mats for all characters in a few hours in w6
stamps also get easier with vman and higher carry cap/prints in w6
so anvil is probably the easiest to catch up?
eh i would spend a couple coins of whatever you have a lot in
so like if you have void coins i would use like 1 void coin a character and also mats if you have spares
i wouldnt worry too much about it tho till your es has a lot more dmg
Right now with coins, I'm mostly going for this 1st
since I've been aware how much water is slowing alchemy progress
hm
The hardest ones is going to be cauldrons
yea cauldrons are few dem each for the last upgrades
Capacity gets expensive fast, wow
yep
anyway to prevent crashing in troll boss arena, trying to complete a task but keep crashing before I hit it 
i think thats been happening to some people for a while
best thing you can try is cloudsaving then restarting device
a couple mentions about that in bug reports but they varied tho
some android didnt work and others web didnt work
Okay, is this good? I just got my 3 water cauldrons maxed in pay to win
while in w4
nice
Steam. Just checked the task and the task went up 1 so guess it registed as connecting the hit even after crashing. Missing out on the reward side but mainly did it for the task so works ig lol 
I'm running out of coins lol
yea not sure whats going on cause I was able to fight it without issue on 3 other characters, but the second I tried with the 4th it crash. going for 5/5 now, hoping for the best
welp no issue... guess its just a bubo thing
so bubo is crashing on the troll fight?
yea
that's strange
when upgrading to dementia bar equipment. is it better to use previous tier class helm or new helm?
does anyone know if rift tears are best farmed with dk or es
can i "knockout" mobs afk as well or only active afk?
Active only
big sage
sadge*
so uh
would Mman be best player to do it?
and does it count multikill n stuff?
I don’t think you understand how it works
no i do not
Kill something without a weapon equipped in one hit
funky
i am not the sharpest marble in the shed's knife drawer
so no MK or anytthing
respawn rate is my best friend got it
use your strongest toon and just 1 tap mobs as far as you can go without weapon and the knockout bonus applys to all toons if from vault if from grim you need to do it in wraith form on db
i can one tap anything but it wants Gmushes i think
start with 1st mob then it will say go to frogs then beens
i wonder why thers a portal behind the door
ohhh
its most mobs in order of health that they have
nope
havn't had it do blood bones and i've already finished tremor worms on world 5
it did do dedidated rams though
ah im understanding this now kinda
ty
this will bea lot easier
i thought it was grind 1 mob a lot active with no weps or MK
for every mob you get that % dmg boost so more mobs is bigger number
seems to be
oh and gublins too
this is like a free apocolypse thing
thats amazing
this is probably the best update ive had since orion
Nah honestly these update is to op
They gonna nerd it
sorry im big dumb
when it says keep old rotation bonuses, does it mean that the fact that accuracy was lvl12 last time was kept only or that any bonus ive bought in the past still applies?
like for example does the refinery speed i bought last rotation still apply?
yes any bounese u buy is permanent
oh poggies thanks!
hey yall! sorry if this is a commonly asked question, i looked it up and all i found was a two year old reddit post and i figured that the meta has probably changed ahaha
i got my 8th player and i dunno what to make them, i have one of each class so im not missing anyone
iirc its 3 of each class then 1 of the hidden class
who u have now?
There is a different meta now kinda
is sb still better then bb?
2bb
2dk
1 of each archers
And for ds im not sure cuz doot
If you have doot then 1 ds if not then 2 ds and 1 bubo
what is ds?
BUT i still prefer the 3 of each classes and 1 secret class
Divine sorcerer
cool thank you so much!! i assume it doesnt matter too much if i get bb or dk first?
i think lm to use to seeing es
same
I mean bb make your cooking faster dk makes your gaming faster
did ES master class come out?
no
If your w5 then dk other wise bb first
oop forgor to remove reply
no prob going to be boubo and bm
l think
My bad
I'm still not used to DB tbh
true
Lol
l guess we idle on players cant read
Agree
it's more the fact it's instinct to say bb now
Btw guys what ya think about vault update?
vgood
Don’t know
Haven’t gotten it
rip
I think its a bit op
it exists
And they would nerf it kinda
IF they didn't nerf it then good for us more sources to get op
Definitely
l ant complaning tho
main focus was early game players
to go form like w1 to w5 tbh
personally I didn't feel too much difference, 50% increase in damage and like 4x coins but that's it
and ofc afk% ig
the coins are so good bruh
My coin was 20-30k% after vault it becomes 150k%
and that 75%dr
The upgraded early game skills are fun
75%dr is also pretty nice midgame
its pretty good in all of the game id assume
its free DR
did u do the mining payday?
The dmg increase for end players isn't big but the big thing is the coin increases
absoabsolutely massive
Yeah but it's less significant when you have other sources
And exp + efficiency increase
i can now get half a void coin in 1 hour worth of time candy
damage acculay ok due to pow
What world you in?
3
Damn
but im one of the strongest W3ers youll find
Void coin in w3 is crazy
nice
i am for sure the strongest W1er and strongest W2er
Show me stats
no one would be as insaine as i was to get the GSB vial in W2
I well be the judge
l think w6 are the best w1 players
Kekeke
they can kill kruk easily even
ik ik my armor isnt the best
plus i need to remake my wep
but aside from that i feel like its doing pretty good
That's more damage than even me in world 4
fr
might go higher if i optimize it
ldk why lava even nef bosses
I’m world 4 and I have like 1 million damage
very close to half a void coin an hour
very doable

XD
i had golden numbers when i left W1 iirc?
Nah your joking
mining ore now gives so much gold
These is joke
im not
i need void armor
BROOOOOOO
im still using W2 shit exvepot foir the wep
go chizore helm
You can kill w5 boss with that stats
better then class helmet?
nice
yes but still keep it if it give skilling stats
good to know my future is looking decent
a lot
ah yea true
l think he didnt skip alch
i just dont know what chiz helm is
This is my stats in late w4
Nah i don't believe you XD you
on my SB
also wdym a lot
These is madness
im assuming you mean how much progress ive missed out on?
A lot of the world 4 skills are time gated
and w5 and 6
No if you tried to get to w5 sooner you could get cooking and sailing and gaming so you could get these faster
they're who beat nightmare amarok with only w1 stuff
I don't have the stats for w5 pushing
madness?
this
is
stupditiy!
but why u dont want go w4
BROOOOO
because
w4 scary
na
This is my DK stats, this should be more than enough to push through world 4
You have enough damage to one shot the boss
I know your not lying but i still can't believe my eyes
lmao nice
You can one shot the chaotic troll
You gonna have easy fight
wtb the prints?
only chaotic?
What about your other charecters
aside from ore prints everything else kinda is meh untill i get better stuff
Blitzkrieg troll has like 2b health
they suffer from malnutrition
nowhere near as strong as my barb
He can 1 shot it honestly
if crit
Wiki says 2b
axe toss crit maybe?
I can't 1 shot normal even with a crit
Yeah probably
Yah
Easily 1 shot
But honestly why do you doing these
u doing nightmare only?
Challenge or something?
was doing nightmare and chaotic bosses only
lol
but seeing as i cant get W4 keys in W3
ive loosned that to also include normal bosses too
stupitity
and bc
he he funni
How did you beat nightmare amarok
nah jkust something spiral snowballed out of control
after embracing warrior
i tried killing it with Jman
i could kjill chaotic amarok
but the floor wide death spikes was the run ender
How much time it took you to kill it
Bro has me rethinking my 1M damage on my blood berserker
i got enough golden food and heals to do it
tf?
dooesnt it have that one boost?
Bro even i an w6 player are jealous of these guy
oh damn
really?
Zuiq is a real gamer
I… hate alchemy
so W3 was really a massive game changer aside from this new vault thing
Weekly battle?
alch was a real bitch back in W2
Is there a guide for that?
lol
yes
Is it your second account?
!weekly
no
Third?
!weeklyboss
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Good score? (1st time getting the achievement)
first in technicalities
i think i have an account that is under a week or two old
idk if i still have it
but uh
i ended up changing emails
So these is your first account?
so idk where that one is
yea
The only account?
only oen i play on yea
*this
had it for over 3 years now
first year and a halfish was me being an idiot not even knowing how to play the game
i regret my names somewhat
Everyone does
manly this bro
I have some real bad names
Nice name XD
I’m world early world 4 with 120lvl characters
You can't beat w3 boss at nightmare?
hoenstly this was my next biggest fumble in naming
I wanted to just call it
GGYT
somehow i made it late at night
decided to be braindead and say
nahhhh
ima slap Maestro onto that GGYT!
i already did
Ah but you don't whant to go to w4
yeah
maybe in a few months
or close to a year
idk yet
what i do know is im looking forward to getting the final two shrines
their going to be huge

rn its just the salt watiing game
(conversions)
i have the red salts
its just being converted slwoly
You don't have doot?
nope
He’s in w3
waitpet or card
What good would doot do
Nothing
annoying me
and others ig
seeing as id be sitting on a useless doot for ayear or trwo
But atleast we know he can have all divinitys in w5 when he whant to go there
Doot is useless till w5
ill burn that bridge when i get to it
i still have so much stuff i want to get done
alas
a lot of it is salt locked

working on this salt
im getting there
i have the red salt
just am slowly converting it
Don't have green salts at auto refine
tho i am trying to rank up my orange salts so it converts faster
He’s special
i cant keep up production before then
Honestly hes really special
i mean
i have some
im sitting at liek 10:30 cycles
He’s a real gamer, he was in w1 for over a year, w2 for a few months, and now gonna spend a year or so in w3 I think
You're gaining blue salts btw since green production is 1/4 speed
i am mentailymentally unwell :D
ahhh
true
thanks
didnt htink about that
something like that
ill burn that bridge when i get to it
ive not even been in W3 for a month
idk what my goals are really
i mean im working on EQ and other things
But lots of stuff relies on it
yeah?
is it that big of a thing?
:D
People usually done get that for a long time honestly
ah
Like w4-5 ish
Is it odd that I have all my characters outside of lab to gain levels?
im working on this atm btw
Earlier I had them all in lab, but right now, I have them on fighting to try to gain levels for 8th character
The pain of being an iOS player
hi
Hi
Hi
what should i do rn ;-;
I'm not sure when would be ideal for me to start going for vman since I'm only level 93
on my maestro
The coin boost is just wow
lots more money 
Anybody have tips on how to up lab?
just leave them there, more level=more range
Thank you
Is this bad? (i'll explain why it's like this)
No why?
gonna need a good explanation to not say its bad immediately
more active on bubo = more gains though
for SB - Trying to unlock the map for the flies
For ES - Trying to go for Equinox Map
The rest of them are trying to gain levels towards 8th character
how long is 8th character gonna take likely for you
I'm 25 levels away total
thats not bad then
It's 26, was 1 off
for the equinox part, can you do any of these tho
That is good enough
because i would say just ignore equinox for now
after you get that 8th character then put them to lab and push again 
How to make bubo the ultimate capitalist
also what are the flies even for i forgot 
Leave them there
3rd one might be possible if it doesn't require all 10
I mean it takes me atleast a month to get one starfire coin
For ever
So might as well
if its just a "might be possible" sounds like a bigger waste of time for now 
so just send es to level up for sooner 8th character 
There's actually another reason - You know dn, right?
I'm trying to unlock the map so that vman is possible near the start of w5
I am aware I have to get the maestro to Level 150
might as well wait till w5 to do that since it could be 4x faster at least
for the kills
Wait, why do I need dn at tier 3 by late w4
idk you tell me
It's what ar is saying
you need 1m kills on w1-3 for vman but thats it
again, might as well just do that in w5
auto review is weird early on 
i messed up run at start sheesh
What's even weirder is greenstacks (Part of equinox) is late w5
because you really dont need equinox or greenstacks that early on 
yes, because equinox was introduced as a w5 mechanic, similar to rift
and with the speed that most people push, you're hard pressed to even have 1 gs by the time you get to w5
I have 2 gs
don't even have the lab progress to get the damage bonus from gs 
if you cant grab it its probably because its not even a full card cause you lost so early
what about the soul
maybe same reason
i shouldve got atleast a few soul
idk, wave 7 is really early
I think the earliest you can gain souls is wave 11
not even a full 11
give me strat for it i tried something weird from endgame and well rip
calling pancake's guides something weird 
its good but not for me atm im noob
Well when your towers are low levels it won't be accurate for you
ok this time i cleared wave 10
Think for yourself 
with diff setup i took the idea but changed a bit
You think I have the right idea going for dn, but in the wrong order?
sounds like a case of git gud 
like the w5 and dn the wrong way round
So I just got to the troll for the first time in the game. Both times I entered it suddenly froze up after about a minute. I never have this problem in the game otherwise. Anyone else know what it is or have this problem too?
No idea
No I am on the computer
How the hell did you go from wave 7 to beating 70 
alr
bro decided to build towers this time
noice
imagine if u use a hunter instead dk
before i made some wrong placements ie kraken etc in wrong spot i adjusted the guide spots
Kangaroo guide?
Is it a good idea for the final w4 push to get as many time candies as I can?
prolly complete 80 and maybe 90
yes
Then git gud
wait this is new
What is
then go and max em
i got godshard/breezy soul vial
Oh yea
i cant seem to do any more i can probably try fish ones and im doing the catching ones but others ;-;
Well still, git gud
use the vman to sample all monster vials
i have sample on vman of gmush which i did normally (no speedrun)
idk how to effectively do speedrun i tried hard and got 45 portals i think/
last time been a few weeks
if only theres guides pinned somewhere...
reading hard 
average idleon player
😭
How do I get a bonus from the lab?
put people into lab, move them around on the board to light it up
more levels will give longer connection range between players
Okay, I managed to get a 12 hour time candy, good start?
from where
nice
Is there a bug with tome? I was in top 1% before the update, now im top 95%...
r u sure?
cloudsave
are any of these bonuses worth getting
reinstall? we said restart just oh maybe
1st one and 2nd one
get 1 kitchen to ritchelin
should I rush to boss in w3 so I can unlock w4 and start cooking earlier? (Im 2 areas away from boss)
do people leave vman on cog board for xp so he is highest level in construction or just 2 dks?
i put everyone in cog board, may i ask where else they would go?
Where do I Fram ribcages now since quenchies don't drop them anymore?
sheepies lol
Frfr?
ye check codex
Ty
i thought the meta was dumping all the xp in to 2 dk just wasn't sure if vman was included or not
this one
just without the vman
you still gain xp while on cogs and while on board
DKs on board, everyone else on cogs
finally hit tht coin multi with my dr 🔥
thanks wasn't sure on vman
Is it good to unlock a ton of stamps from 1 quest since I'm in w4 doing clean up?
idk when it became this high but how to increase more?
it was 3d before
(some days ago)
u will get it alot later xD
i cant even see anything
Is this worth it? (Bill brr quest)
Look at autoreview
once you get tachion of titans it will happen in no time
which section?
You can use search.
Damn pushin w5 been easy with nobi
lets go void egg!


