#midgame-chat-w3🧊w4🔮
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do u have nobisect or not?
15m gmush kills added alot lol
have
people are gonna lvl so much faster becuase of it
ya 9th char is probably a day away if i pulled every1 from div jail rn
we have the same damage, but I have double kph...
it's easier
and i'm a slob if i don't push vman within a week
Not the worst
u have nm emp?
not for the people with not active bubo's
21295% mk how
Biggole moles are on the knockout twice lol
this upgrade pushes everyone in w5 or lower way past where they were
lava hates them extra
dunno, I have that mk
idk where kill diff coming from
41 tiers of MK
I just unlocked the rams map, but I need 250k for next portal?!
Correct
mine also 41
deathnote is like this, +5% from bosses
and I'm not hitting mk anymore 😭
Did you do the update
Rams and Bones are hard AF mobs, they are as strong as w4 so not having multikill there makes sense
wait, what update?
@rain scroll how you like these apples
hmuch dmg ur dk have now? @fallen ridge
UPDATE YOUR GAME AND GO TO YOUR QUICK REF
Literally free strong upgrades for everyone
Kinda dumb
dk has like 8-9T in dr setup
nvm it has 15T, he gained 6T in a few days from I don't even know where...
OH, I see the update now, Thanks for letting me know
what about dr
Knockout-spree broken because of dedoated ram map not even being unlocked -.-
wait, my afk gains are now 70%
Yea
you lose a lot of kills by doing so...
It was 50% before, did it increase from a update or?
You got a free 30% upgrade courtesy of lava, read the patch notes
whats ur KPH? i was trying to farm some crystals too statue/gfood @fallen ridge
There’s another 30% in the upgrade vault, I don’t remember how expensive it was but I don’t think it was much
we get 60% afk gains this update
Ooh, that makes more sense now, I just had a look
30% +30% in vault
The bajillion other bonuses too are nice
I'm not farming leeks rn, I'm doing ruby demon genie
my kph with dr prayer is 183k (no multikill)
and this is without
decent increase ig on removing prayer
🤔 is it worth it to move 1 of my characters out of lab for this?
idk how ur mk is higher xD
what an absurdly nice update lol
Tbh ya it's probably worth having 1 char go do a bit of mining, but if it loses your multikill node in lab probably not just yet
maybe have maestro go to lab and move your miner out for a few hrs
dementia at ceramic and bronze on skydoggies (killed a few just to get the drops)
after some card changes
just spend a one hour candy on it if you really want it
So many talent pts im gonna have to visit the library to use them al
don't u have 5 chars with that damage?
more or less I mean
i dont think so there gear is trash
time to craft some stuff then
lol trying to do the vault knockout on db freezes the game, at least on web XD
Used a 4 hour time candy on copper ore, this can be a really strong bonus
hey yall, I've unlocked my 8th character slot. I have both warriors, both mages, both archers, and a ||Maestro||. What should I do for the 8th slot?
2nd dk/squire probably
Duplicate Squire, Bowman and Wizard in any order.
so that was a fucking lie 
cheap
no red coin=cheap
yeah
lmao there's like 3 of them that get very expensive. Besides the MOST expensive ones, they won't cost more than 10 void TOTAL. the cheaper ones are closer to less than a void each. most of them below a dementia.
Idk if that made sense i just typed sahit
I hit mk thanks to the update on this w3 map! Is it just me that's really benefiting from the update?
nah man it's super super nice for all of us pushing
also fun fact, you probably don't even need that 
yeah I was just trying to see which one was the most expensive beside the class exp as its somewhat infinite
yeah 
doubled my kills/hr on my highest map rn, no multikill on it though.
how much money u got left? how much did u upgrade
are onyx statues account wide or i have to unlock them on each and every single characters through the questline?
acc wide
as long as u have golden statue 🤷♂️
great. will take times but great. only issue i'm left with is like using my pens in the PO box cuz Disability
Thank you CM
My DB had like one dreadlo coin, now I’m at 80 starfire, tho I didn’t max the talents one
I think like 1-3 starfire coin should be fine to max all beside talent point and class exp
Base archer and mage if you want to wait for master class
Else second ES and SB
I think now might be the right time to start finishing gold statues?
forgot to resample my ores 
second sb hasnt been meta since hole
bb has been 100% better ever since
I love how every person has a different point of view about current meta
just leaving 10th as beginner is likely best rn though
its more can you name two things that second sb does for ur account
the main thing before was forge, but forge isnt a problem anymore
Tbh from now on I just say to people to make 9h and 10th base archer and mage
If I'm hitting 100% Survivability against dedotated rams, does that mean I can complete World 4 nearly?
acc is the main problem of w4, not surv
hey guys can anybody tell my why my exp/hr keeps going down?
Oh, right, true
low actions per minute and low afk gain
yeah
can i see the whole afk screen?
weekly bonus also changed 🙂
its now summoning essence + xp gain
oh its cause of ur low eff
it was mining the previous week
yeah the weekly bonus is likely why

it was mining eff and xp
i dont want eff i want exp right now
and eff is xp
you hit the vein more -> you actually get xp
you see the "mine chance" bit?

let me try
in 99% of cases, skilled dimwit makes up for the xp you lose
unless you alr have 100%
yeah it helped a bit
Correct me if I'm wrong, but once you gain quanity per ore increases, the xp increases additively with it
There is no situations where you want skilled dimwit unequipped.
The curse is only additive -118% = -1.18x exp which is nothing.
no, prowess gives 0 xp bonuses
Oh, I must be thinking of multi resource chance then
skilling on vman to get higher levels (minus trapping) late game
that small amount of xp lost adds up
though its a very niche thing
also doesnt give more xp
The only character I don't have skilled dimwit equipped is my mman
it only matters if the highest tier node you have access to is 100% chance on mman
if it isnt 100%, skilled dimwit is better
Alright, I'll keep that in mind the next time I move it to skilling
Vman doesn't have anything that help much when it comes to efficiency for skills so I would assume this efficiency increase is helpful and would in some situations be better to equip to get more exp to reach next tier.
-# You can correct me about the usefulness of not using skilled dimwit.
Hey guys, i just got my first BB. In what talents should i put my points first into? I got 174
waiting for that day xD
Should I play active or afk when farming xp on monsters?
and u got ur elite class?
Yeah
I rushed the portals a bit to get to the class guy hahaha
actually i did open the portal but after that is insane
cards helped me out very much
late game, you dont really care ab the mats you get via afk, unless its mothernode or the catching one
what cards did you used?
Mostly accuracy based ones, because I couldnt really touch the enemys otherwise
Is it still better for me to active grind es vs afk? (I'm at 89%)
you just need to half touch acc bonuses and volla, all of w4 is easy
obols, gear, tools, cards, card sets, w1/2 clickers, dungeons, prayers, star signs, talents, stamps, PO boxes for acc
acc is not the issue the defense is
no it isnt
2 hr time canndy means all my 400 food used
healing food makes defence a 0 issue used
if i active i keep dying
thats not how maths works
you eat 2 a minute max
thats 240 in 2 hours
Try to buy the new W4 food
also maybe upgrade ur food pouch
my hp is 500 on shaman so 🙂
plat food pouch is most you really need
me when max hp doesnt matter for the food calc afk!
I used one 12 hr time candy and only 150 or so was used up
Some solutions to defence: Armour, defence cards, the new upgrage vault (which actually made the difference with me reaching 100% survivability on rams)
could have 1 max hp and still have 100% surv when taking 1k damage a hit
food is THAT good
also mages are the most fragile class
really?
Fun fact: if it wasn't for the update, I would not be at 100% survivability here due to my low defence
wait i might have to spend one merit point for one more food
as I don't have healing food on me
I have it at level 50 on es
isn't void pouch easier to craft early? it cost a lot more resources but only "base" ones (10 golden ham are relatively easy to gather)
no.
the boost food is insanely annoying
dementia pouch is fine ish
This is the recipe for void pouch
you need a good source of yellow souls and critters
bad early but later ez
if you CAN get it then do, but plat pouch is easy to get and works
and dementia is an easy upgrade
just get automation arm
really? i think i got it earlier
tbh its probably a early-mid w5 thing now
i think i got it early-mid w4
due to the op afk% bonuses we got
I have automation arm at level 3
good
Currently working on getting it to level 4
what should i be doing once i hit world 4?
any tips for this hellish sh
wont take too long
I guess....
I remember finding it harder to gather 4 choco cakes than 2100 souls and 3000 crabs back then ( 3-4 months ago)
use eyes to find the gaps and kill a mob when theyre close
eyes?
4 choco cakes is obtained via sleeping and 3 chars
i mean yea i tired but im at the point where ieverything is filled
gonna use the 2 hr candy with this lets see if i survive
but yeah: its as simple as killing randomly, or trying to see where its not filled
i cant spot the gaps anymore because theyre tiny and also filled with coins
no thats higher then normal
should have 4 atleast
but his dmg kinda good
This is my es stats (Mid w4, nearly late w4)
bro is alrdy rdy for w5
go get w5 bro
then come back later for equinox
^
with nobisect it will make it take 1/2 time
fr thats enough for w5?
1 mill max damage is all you need
i am not
and on an es, its more like 500k damage
HP pots might help: W3 ones gives like 700HP
!merit3
1️⃣ One point into Telekinetic Storage which has an ability to deposit all items in your inventory into the chest while destroying everything on the ground. This is a great quality of life feature. Skip this if you have the ram companion.
2️⃣ Buy until you have 3 building spots and 3 food slots. This can be between 0 and 2 purchases depending on gem shop purchases. Food slots will help your pusher go faster and 3 building spots is a 50% construction speed boost.
3️⃣ Talent levels are hugely important and the library should be used as much as possible.
4️⃣ The 3D printer will be how you get most of you skilling materials in the future. To make good use of it you need your sample size to be as close to the 90% cap as possible.
5️⃣ Buy the rest. More slots = more better.
6️⃣ Leveling telekinetic storage gives up to +13.6% Carry Cap which is good for afking longer, stamps and crafting, but is not a priority early on.
7️⃣ You won't get enough points to consider buying respawn for a long time by which you will have cleared all W3 portals.
Get the first level when you reach rank 3 on orange salt and get another level each time a new salt reaches rank 3.
⚔️ The last recipe is for the Chizoars Caustic Scarf which is best in slot for a long time giving both damage and respawn. Get this when you can complete the associated task of beating Chizoar with 8 characters. Other recipes are for Chizoar gear. The helmet gives +15% damage and can be considered if you are making purple salt. The other pieces are mediocre but some make the chestplate for 3% damage.
idk why he didnt buy the construct/food slot thats the best thing there
on dk, I'm nearly 1m max damage if I remember right, might be over 1m now
i wonder my damage on my sb
let my valo game finish xD
i cant
cant or wont
used all on samples
a lot of the merit 3 shite is really easy to get done to get more points
was the first one i maxed late w4
🙂 i need one more i will try
btw on damage i have no idea how its that high it was 120k now its 150
vault?
whats vault?
read the new update
the new update in the codex
Is this close enough for the w4 merit shop to allow reaching it? (I can buy 1)
you can make it straighter
I just realized that vault gave me something like 20k HP on ES...
straighter the line, further you reach
any recommendations on this
how do i get that much 😭 its the hardest stat to get for me
obols, gear, tools, cards, card sets, w1/2 clickers, dungeons, prayers, star signs, talents, stamps, PO boxes for acc
i cant see the update
get wisdom
vault, shaquracy, roo, secondary stat
u play on steam or android
steam i dont think my game updated
or ios?
get rekd ios user
close the game and reopen
yup
gn
*after checking if steam found an update
i have completely disregarded prayers from w3 since getting into it a couple of days ago
is there a prayer that is early obtainable that is good?
ohh i didnt die
skilled dimwit
skilled dimwit
its an amazing prayer
wow there's not reason to be this rude and name call
and you can get it with a level 1 pulse thing
multi eff, additive loss of xp
so at 10x xp, it becomes 8.82x
ofc thats at max level
the money and exp is insane damn
:3
levels of prayers are family or personal?
Where is your acc
This is so close 😭
family
why u doing this to me xD
the amarok helm guy should be able to squeeze one more pixel out of it
roo, shaquracy, vault, secondary stat
looks slightly not straight
let me reopen the game
also are shrines personal or account wide? If i place a shrine on my hunter in a new map do they disappear from the squires map
account wide
gotcha ty
¯_(ツ)_/¯
whom should i do the dungeon with which char?
dk
squire
dk
squire sucks
dk is amazing
if you use a sub class, mman or barb would be best
thought id have higher by now smh
also i have like 10k dungeon credits and i am really confused should i spend on rng or the skills
like defence and stuff
base stats for now
yeah, I think my stats are high enough to finish the push to w5?
easily
When do I unlock the next subclass after barbarian
in w4
Is it world 4 ?
Oh oki thanks
Any tips on how I can get there at a reasonable speed
Like what to prioritise
Ah oki so get some good heal food acc and afc the speed ups
yeah
Great well thanks for the help
roo, owl, alchemy stamps
Any way how I can get some good amount of acc
vault
let me check out vault
Roo and owl are those idle click things right
yeah, theyre boring
stamps, alchemy, vault
theyre not needed
But they give a decent buff so
w clicker
Where do I get the vault
its the new update
meals is a w4 thing
Oh oki
no meals for acc, sry
So even if you’re not in a higher w
doesnt vault make the game much easier now
whoops
me in dungeonns 99%
Hurty a lot
I'll do my crystal island, I'm out of time candy
seems thats best im getting today
New 60% 70% 80% 90% and 95% Tome Ranks added -- if you are in the Top 50%, yea, you won't notice these lmao
Welcome to the race, new players
yeah boi
Tome ranks ?
where is vault?
w4 town
Everything is at w4 lmao
quick ref menu
w3 isn’t fun like that 
you updated the game yet?
i did update
Update your game
did you update or validate ur files
i will validate now
validating ur files ISNT updating
it sends it over to the update thing, but it isnt an update
nah i did update i will have to verify also now
Why is there so many crystal spawns?!
longer you wait, the more crystals are there
welp, I'm going to be here for like 10 minutes xD
but yeah that makes sense, I hadn't checked for a few days
yo what???
wtf is this update
it only gets better
it's a rebalance for all people w1/2
class xp gets really expensive after a while 
wanna see mine?
I mean, this aint a doot brag, sure
damn
this feels like
This is for me
it does
these are all nice
btw this is my new highest damage
Vault is OP
for now

vault gave like...a 10% bonus
i need to go check wht i have as far as dmg lol, havent looked after all those bonueses
But still
Wait, why am I all of a sudden level 95?
w4 xp is strong
youll be ab 150 by the end of the world
What does the happy doggy upgrade do ?
I havent even touched Knockout yet
no clue
better doot chances 
right i forgor to do that on all mobs, one sec
Well I got a happy doggy now so
was why i wanted max damage
this is insane wtffff from 30k to 50k
for the funny
lava really need to add QQ dmg denomination XD
btw the lowest number isnt what people track damage by
or just go straight to E
oh really?
so for the monsters to hit multi kill the larger one counts?
yes
wow somethig new
wonder how far yuo could push gmush mk if it wasnt capped at 52 Bean
rounded ofc
mk tier go brrr
maybe at like 65x or smth now
QQ is 10^15?
i wonder how many ppl will be annoyed at the bone changes tho
I'm working on this rn while I'm on BB for free damage%
let me write them down (I don't remember)
T is 10^12
no as M is 9
Oh
B is 12
k=3 M=6 B=9 T=12 Q=15 QQ=18
do we need to do the knockout for each character?
dont think so
k is 10^3,
100k = 100 000
he rearanged the w1 boss door area
i did knockout on dk and the screenshot i put above was on db
db causes the game to freeze on web if trying to do knock out XD
theres no way lava giving freebies like that (vault)
you should hit 69 (not joking)
thats crazy.
lava should change the mk cap to 69, just cuz
better pets?
no
happy doggy
nvm 68 forgot "first" rank is actually rank 0 (when u deal exactly their HP)
I wouldn't call it a race, just nice to see where your at compared to player base.
wait this new Upgrade Vault is a bit op no?
what is the use of upgrading this one?
just to keep it happy?
thats what i am asking
no clue
dumb question, lets say have 1k building rate, and currently progress 4 buildings. it goes 1k each right not 250 each right?
maybe something about pets rework
yes
I think so
too many freebies
that's unbelievable
this is insane i bet he is gonna take this update down
i think world 7 is almost done
freebies without year worth of grinds
@zenith hare remember yesterday i was crying about my barb not reaching a good damage xD
yeha I maxed it out and the amount of money, dmg and drop rate is crazy
now u get a free carry to world 6
now I need to know what griffy thinks about this update
My 1st void coin!
i wonder if he dropped this update bc its the idle game fest until the 12 on steam and idleon is at the top of the charts. new players?
thats the max i could do
Just max the coin drops...
really ? i am also a new player tho
500-300-100 basically
yeah more coins means faster upgrades
cheaper upgrades + coin drops 🙂
hey I just got shiny pets, got squirrel and it didnt give me a new star sign is it intended lol
gmush kills went double bois
5 to 10? 
whats the command to see the merit shop points for w4?
!merit4
1️⃣ Buy one point of spice spillage. This gives you up to a 20% chance to claim all your spices when claiming over an hour of afk gains. Since spices generate more slowly the more you have produced since last claim this will improve spice production.
2️⃣ Having more bubbles get upgraded each day will help a lot, especially when combined with buffs giving more levels per bubble. Only buy this if you can reach the No Bubble Left Behind node in the lab.
3️⃣ Egg capacity is limited and every time the hatchery fills up eggs are wasted until you unlock the rarity upgrade. Also helps you get two achievements with good rewards requiring egg capacity.
4️⃣ Allows you to connect to lab bonuses from slightly farther away which can reduce the number of characters needed in the lab. Note that the max distance between characters, which is called line width, doesn't increase.
5️⃣ Improves kills per hour in W4 but since you likely won't be pushing W4 portals for long this is relatively low priority.
6️⃣ Max level spice spillage triggers every time. They are lower priority since it takes a lot of star talent points and is likely to trigger several times in a row when checking multiple characters.
7️⃣ 3 crystal mobs per day is very little.
Unlocks the recipes for troll armor giving all stat% and the base for all further armor upgrades. It is great but require plenty of Nullo Salt. Don't buy it if you can't craft them.
ty
is the knockout permanent or gonna change evberyday?
does it say it resets?
knockouts gave a good 500qq damage
I only have 3.3m max damage at the moment
wait
I went form ~6q to 11q max dmg with this new update :p
it got moved
shortened the platform
My guess is it got moved to make it more clear for newer players?
yes as people didn't think to move right far too often
I'm going to try to get the rift early
bruhh
this is funny
sums up new players
Which is this one I think
getting rift as soon as you see the npc is very normal
the quest is uber easy to do if you actually did w4 as intended
(get all elites, then push)
I did use most of my time candies on dk to push 2 maps
I'm now trying to get 1 lost battery to finish the quest
active ES for that
what does this mean?
ah ok fair thanks
That’s weird
yeah
what about coins?
wouldnt it become atom?
Is this good mk for where I'm at progression wise in w4?
even with all those freebies
ahh i have to kill ram now
what world in w4 is rift thing and what does it do?
soo after clammies?
I'm currently unlocking the rift as I have the quest
and what does rift do?
if youre just getting to it, dont worry about it too much, but when you can clear the stages and get the bonuses, its insane
if u are just world 4 it is not that worth to do rn
k
I got the rift unlocked!
nice
is the upgrade vault permanent?
ye
thanks
pretty cheap to max
surprised lava didnt shove bundle into our faces
he didnt rly drop anything
eh
my coins did go up a lot tho
grimoire copy n paste with coins instead of bones
yep
idk if I can even do the 1st rift quest
thats not the only content
also re did all of the w1/2 main quest line
Oh, for the slab?
I could drop then pick it up again for slab, right?
im not sure if you need slab unlocked or not
or is that not how it works?
i think you just need to drop it tho
is this worth the coins i only have 10 of the coins after godshard
Okay, did that then picked it up - The reason I think the slab thing is active from the start is because of 1 of the archer talents
dam
If it's expensive for you - dont upgrade. GT bubble is better
Oh, the phone box
im getting closer to 10k gt
so, you will get only +3% exp per upgrade
yea thinking about it js didnt make sense
GT bubble is way more easier, haha
umm, how do you exit the rift without teleporting?
don't you use bottled town teleports?
Oh, right, I thought there was a portal back to the previous map, I guess not
Just type " If u love me let me go " then open gemshop and close it to teleport to W1 Town if you don't have any means for teleportation.
Okay, good to know, I was just wondering if I had to use a bottled tp or not
to exit the rift without a map teleport
i dont understand this
New 60% 70% 80% 90% and 95% Tome Ranks added -- if you are in the Top 50%, yea, you won't notice these lmao
what map is good for farming money with dk current highest map is clammies
w4 town huge book
before you couldnt see your rank until you wre top 50%, he changed it so that you could see where you placed before that
Ahh, for the lame people that have a life IRL? And cant play this game all day?
not rly its just more a qol thing
Alright, I have the onyx statue quests
dont even think about it
ideally you want to do it w6 after you do catchup
1st quest looks doable, I think it's the next one I have to wait?
yea do the quests if you want but not the last one that requires 20k power statues
dang your GT is way higher than mine
ive been just sitting on it for the past few days
i havent cc'd seriously since i unlocked all w6 bubbles
yea same til recently
i just finished up onyx and im just waiting for dragon to finish onyx before active sb
I have 614 gems now 😄
oh ive been active DBing and active ES for 200 gstack (done)
yea i dont think ill be doing active db anytime soon
im gna have to cc soon before more masterclasses come out
for what
oh yea
at least that's what i think is suitable for the w6 skills
it could just be all w4 elite classes getting master classes
yk if the talent points from the upgrade vault adds to master class tab
I just got to world 4, and I'm trying to figure out how to use kitchen latels
How do I do
nope it specifically states its only for 1st and 2nd tab
you just hold it
if you hold + click the stack it uses up all of them and gives you time in hours of cooking
but it uses all in one stack
Is it maybe worth it to go for my 8th character now?
Ok
use it on BB for more ladle efficiency
freak
what did you think? even the bubble doesnt work
like 22-23 base
is there any chart for wz 4, 5 and 6 td ? wanted to get lv 120 on those
what about with multis
go to guide masterlist v2 in tips n tricks
prob some in the master guide thing in #1084911530417606656
or search up pancake in endgametalks
like 26
i have more 😈
bro i was about to choose the elite class and i died xD
how??
not rly sure
oh you bought the DB pack and island pack didnt u
shh
yeah thats what i thought
lets keep things mysterious
10 2hr candies and i got the elite
i only bought the hole pack and auto loot
should i waste all my candies ? to gett all of them
yeah that's a pretty good rate
what should i push next dk? or es?
dont have a lot of candies left
😈
thing is tho
eh once i finish farming i'll be about the same
oh is it not max
its going to go up to 27.5 once i get the equinox things
and also it can go up another .2 or smth if i get the last skulls from weekly boss
yeah good luck getting that within like 2 months
what
thisi s my fill rate so far
so im gna be doing that instead
i dont have equinox symbols unlocked
yeah my bar is 14000 with 298 fill rate
yikes
i was struggling to get the blue coins and now i got that purple so easily :((((
i gotta level up slow roast wiz 2 more times and i think im going to skip dmg and go to dr until i unlocked the symbols one
is it cus the upgrade vault
i wish i had the drop rate emperor card
ill be willing to drop 400 gems on a 4* cardifier and use my ruby one
yes the upgrade vault
oh is it not worth upgrading dr at a certain point
before/after the vault
yea it made pushing worlds in early so much easier
Dude my highest bubble is 78, i thought i was doing well -.-
dw bout it itll ramp up once you get active bubo
Okay, I ran into this quest
Its the materials holding me back
it wont be later once you get better prints
hey i just reached w3, can i use bloons somehow to boost construction a bit
no point really in doing so
Do characters that are in the lab with the god, gain exp from a bubo actively in the lab?
just focus on xp% cogs and also flaggy rate until you get xp% cogs
which god
So, this was the quest you suggested me to just ignore till w6 or?
alright, but i still want to do that
you can try im not sure if you can
yeah i tried and now im here lol
then you cant
The bear one
maybe i need 3d printer first? coz i dont have any town skill yet in bottom left corner
are you talking about essence transfer talent?
yea 3d printer is big, but that wont let you get construction xp
im looking for a way to use bloons for construction
you get construction xp by being on the board or creating cogs
use balloons for worship, cooking, or catching
maybe fishing
i know, i setup cogs and stuff already, just wanted a bit higher xp/h
Nah they made this game way too easy now
yes
lowk never used it before but it wont be hard to test it
everything up to w6 is considered the tutorial
lava just expedited the process
Bro I went from 4-5mil max dmg to 10mil from the dmg% upgrade
yea its pretty good
What does dog happiness do btw
makes dog happy
Is it worth it for me to go for my 8th character now?
if you want to
since I can get levels a lot quicker
u should get them all
its def a lot faster to do them in w5 but if you get enough levels go for it
This good? Even tho im not w4
The best map I can place them on is only 30.8m exp per hour
Seems fine tbh
Also big brain time? 
Big brain time increases monster HP
That's less afk kills btw
Try seeing with and without if you do get more exp tho I doubt
remove those prayers they are bait (if not used properly)
Unending is alright as long as he collect 10h or less
Also it works for everything right by? Like for hole bravery?
doubtful but is there a tool to lookup where i would make the most money or exp?
true but it is easy to forget about claiming every 10h
Afk info and compare with and without the prayer
usually crystals mobs in your highest world active and you can check afk
The increased monster hp is bad if pushing since it'd slow down portal pushing
Yeah at first I could put it as I checked every hour or so but know I just let my char have 20+ or even 30+ hours afk
well i dont have any of the good prayers yet, ill unlock those tonight. but i was curious if there was a game wide lookup of all rates for my character lol
or even just by sleeping u get really close to 10h so that to use that prayer properly you should claim afk as soon as u wake up
Hmm doesn’t work for me I sleep for 14h sometimes
seems like lava changed it to 100 boss kills maybe?
What is?
For that kitchen tutorial quest do I need to afk for 15 minutes or hours
15 minutes I think
Thanks
i heard he hasnt touched the daily kill amt
but that was when the boss changes were introduced so maybe something changed this time idk
Do you guys think I can defeat the boss in world 4 once I reach it?
I mean he can shadow nerf anything he wants
yea true
I feel like I'm cheating with these vault upgrades.
Probably but if you’re DK you’re gonna need to be careful as this boss can be somewhat of a massive troll..
yeah, my furthest character is DK
anyway just need more confirmations
You’ll still probably beat him but you’ll have to, brace up, read. Yeah I know it’s a very rare skill nowadays
lud js said that in w1 chat so ig its true
Whats the comp for reaching wave 125 with 4 pets? The sheet seems really outdated and there doesn't really seem to be an answer on it
the sheet still works
well i think he also got the info from me so i could be making it up :D
Grrr
can you show me which is the one for it then, am i just reading it wrong?
All the 4 pets ones say like "goes to wave 50"
oh the eq dream you need peapod for that for consistency or you can do with rattler rng
Peapod looter refilled borgor
yea that
What has peapod?
I'm starting to get dementia coins far easier now
Or rattler if you don’t want to wait for it
.
dog in world 4 it is the first ?
i tested boss kill, too. 100 seems to be cap, regardless of hitting reset button or zoning out 
W4 pet, I reckon it’s 5th
lava rly tryna kill f2p gems
lmao lava does not want u to farm gems
Gotcha. What does "gap refiller, gap burger" mean
like leave a gap
yeah, but at least he reverted the rest button changes
Ohhh
idk if its necessary but it worked for me
Gotcha. Okay. I'll give that a shot, thank you.
so you can just mindlessly click?
100/day is definitely more feasible than 300, though sucks getting nerfed to ~70 gems
well, can't click too fast, since button pops before auto-loot now
wasnt it like that before
What level should I try to aim for? (I get about 1 level per 15 minutes or so right now)
are you even close to w5 yet
I'm on the 3rd last map
you should be closer cus of the vault
i would just blitz to w5 then level up chars in first map there
ton more xp
the most recent version was like 15 or 16 seconds, which was ~5 seconds after auto loot. I think prior to that it was right around when autoloot procced? now it's way before. could be wrong though
I'm 48 level ups away from my 8th character as a reference
i timed it im pretty sure it was like 3-4 seconds before auto loot
cus i could click every 12 seconds but the button always showed up early
where do I even grind power statues?
beans
make sure you ahve decent dr and crystal chance before doign so tho
if I equip all my crystal spawn chance cards, I think I can reach around 1 in 900 or so
or a bit over 0.1%
beans w1 right?
Choco chip 
dk is better for faster respawns I believe
well its doable w/o choco just takes longer
no its for the orb
Oh
bubo and es have faster respawns
Ooh, so you want the orb > faster respawn for crystals
yea
so dk?
theres likely better things to do than farm power statues without choco and with low crystal chance
for all statues outside of w3 you want to use dk
definitely yea
but I need onyx
why
orb is for the increased DR on crystals*
Oh, you're going for the onyx statue quests?
they said to do the quest quick
nah dont do it rn
yeah
If you don’t have choco chip it’ll take weeks or months proly
Yeah but don’t listen to him 
mind explaining how they are bait?
i would wait till w6
thats wild
They can't run, they got no legs
they look good but hinder progress
The npc nor the quest will disappear
theres a thousand different things you could active right now that would be worth more
yeah ik
i can understand this for the 275xhp. But not the 10 hour
Oops, just blew my coins into refinery spd
More hp = need more dmg to kill a mob so less kph
That’s only if you can’t or forget about the 10h restriction
They're really good with bosses as they don't change their HP
should i care more about KPH than the exp? When pushing my squire to w4
Usually kph = exp
As low kph means low exp
Low-key Upgrade Vault cool and all but it's so painful clicking over and over again 😭
what should i make my 7th character if i have one of everything already
i read u probably want another squire
alr
begginer right?
you'll inevitably use a 24hour candy for something and question why you only got 10 hours 
wait for these guys tho
bc mman and vman
i did beginner as 7th, its fine
get started on the skilling and by the time youre ready for maestro youll be at your 8th character
thats only cus of the increased lvl reqs
I did the mman character as my 7th
Off the top of my head, the only downside is weekly boss 
Oh yeah, I still haven't properly unlocked it
Since when I check the weekly boss, I'm doing 0 damage?
weekly boss?
W2
if you dont have any in the stat required then you wont do any dmg
Right of post office
For upgrade vault, can I use an auto clicker?
oooh
Huh
Don’t use that word ty
just hold down your mouse button its not that deep
Just upgrade class xp and you won't be there for long
just butterfly click it
See last line
or just click+hold
spam clicking is faster if ur fingers dont hurt
i'm lazy 
man I kinda just wanna get poppy megafish high but I got better things too do
Alr mb HOWEVER I'm on mobile and for some reason I can't hold it 😭
Mb I didnt know
Are there any main upgrades I should buy, mainly cuz it's gonna take hours to upgrade everything
hours 💀
Prob if your end game and got like the last tier of coins 😭
I got Siege breaker few days ago... still not sure where to put him. Any recommendations?
most of them are lv 10 and lv 100 max
the earlier ones are like 100-500 ish
Ah alr
Yeah
lab
I thought it was inf cuz the 1st upgrade
2610
You need at least 1-3 star fire coin to get all upgrade beside talents point and class exp to max
Hmm
well yeah thats true, with multiplier
Oh alr
I wonder what level
500
That's quite high of a level
Don’t worry still cheaper than talents point and class exp
I'm throwing my ES back on baby trolls for money, blew them on refinery stamp haha
Gmush?
Yeah, I got 75m gmush kills, not good but will work a bit
I can't active now and I don't want to bother with coin rates rn
afk sb ✨
Nah, I'd have to move him out of lab and I used ES for KOs
Candy 
50 void per hour will suffoce for now
With es, I'm on the 2nd last map before I can unlock the equinox
what do i spend my skilling points?
Max 14th (for skilling tab) and don’t forget to always have skilling tab on your BM when using eggs
okie
No upgrade left behind soon
wut
well, this will take a while 😭
Really? They just want you to collect the stamps
and for bb skilling?
Took me 8 days to collect a skilling stamp but that's just bad rng to the max
theyre easy to get when you have elites :p
The 1 I have the quest active on is my sb
The chows and ladle prob
fyi: ES is for mob specific drops, DK is for crystal drops
Yee ladle probably
they blitz through em
lets start the zow now as i have bb
Also heyyo to refer to you is it meme, bean or meme bean?
all my candies bye bye 😦
-# Beanie 
If a pet has 247 power and is a heart, should I replace it with the same pet with 250 power and also has a heart in the yard?
Or does it not matter
All are the same
Basically in short does pet power in breedability matter
How so 
Well you did say bo and I thought you wanted to say boo
¯_(ツ)_/¯
i has many names
do i have to wait to die irs been like 4 minutes of auto off?
that or every 15 mins you cloud save which saves progress
so i can just leave after minutes and ill be good?
should be yeah
Thou shalt not defy froge
Mb
dude
negative copper ore 
not even on main copper miner
@zenith hare
not how overflow works
tf is going on
I have a bug regarding the tome, but only if I play the game on pc, where and how sould I report it?
imagine counting up to 2.4b, but -2.4b comes after, then you get back to 0, count back up to 2.4b, go back to -2.4b etc
thats how overflows and underflows work
mobile basically cant count that high
then my money from vault is fucked
not all things are stuck at 2.4b counting
its why mobile had all those over flow issues fixed
he increased the memory used per thing
oh wait he only fixed sampling, I thought he fixed overflow
he just seemed to have forgor actual afk
do i tell hotair about it


