midgame-chat-w3🧊w4🔮

[sleek pollen]

inb4 you ask how to increase anything in game answer will always be alchemy

[robust marsh]

Ye

There is a loop down there

[shy ruin]

IdleOn flow chart

[sleek pollen]

someone even made one for TD

[white path]

I hate td

[drowsy lion]

anyone has the picture with recommended refinery ranks?

[shy ruin]

What about dioxide synthesis

[drowsy lion]

cheez, this make alot of sense

[shy ruin]

Do i rank up regardless of spontaneous combustion

[sleek pollen]

synthesis goes same way for combustion

[old latch]

is there another way to get shiny trappings? never getting new scythe at this rate

[shy ruin]

set 20-minute traps

[old latch]

the eternal lords of elusiveness

[robust marsh]

Did I found a loop hole?

[sleek pollen]

20m silksin

[shy ruin]

so the game rolls the shiny dice more

[old latch]

yeah had 20m silks for a good few days now still at 0

[shy ruin]

thats what people do to beat w1 without killing green mushrooms

they tp to dungeon and go to frogs straight away

[old latch]

think I have the "best" shiny bonuses I can via cards and whatnot so eh

[sleek pollen]

not really loophole but call it what you want because you'd still need to kill the first 2 mobs to unlock merit task board

[old latch]

rng be like that I guess

[robust marsh]

I did it

[charred scaffold]

[robust marsh]

On bb

That is es so I just skip those ones in between

I do more kph on this map rather then first

5k it is

[velvet anchor]

my blue salts = 0

my alchemy is fucked in a way i cant discribe

[sleek pollen]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-gif-16847314810084971000

[velvet anchor]

wanna see

[sleek pollen]

how bad can it be

[velvet anchor]

https://idleontoolbox.com/account/world-4/cooking?t=Meals

[magic haven]

Does the Holy pearl increase the EXP gained the higher level u are or vice versa?

[sleek pollen]

holy pearl got nerfed after lvl 400 I reckon

[magic haven]

so it increase the EXP gained the higher level u are?

[iron jay]

lvl 596 = 5.5% per pearl

[sleek pollen]

thats not a link to your acc

[magic haven]

💀 my lv1 beginner i just made deals 900 dmg for 1 punch

[sleek pollen]

or maybe I'm lagging too much I can't load a page

[velvet anchor]

[magic haven]

bro its just my 6th char

[old latch]

not touched my new char, already omega behnd on others as is

[sleek pollen]

yeah so they give more than before but after lvl 400 they start to fall off

[velvet anchor]

where do i get the link again

[magic haven]

ok so its best to use it at around 390-400

[sonic field]

does apocalypse zow dmg effect every char or just my barb/bb/db

[velvet anchor]

my level one guy is doing 600k

[heavy terrace]

i started w3 yesterday but i can already use candies to get to w4. Should i do it? or should i lvl up my skills 1st

[sonic field]

rush to the lab imo

[sleek pollen]

Data > Profile Link, and don't forget to upload/update it in case last time was 3 month ago

[velvet anchor]

https://idleontoolbox.com/?profile=bohicaya

[sleek pollen]

zow and chow are BB only

[heavy terrace]

okay ty

[magic haven]

please bruh this is w3 and w4 chat

[magic haven]

is lab that important? it just gives buffs tho? i get my chars to lv10 and then quit lab after that lol

[sleek pollen]

hmm wait I don't even think its that again I don't remember where to find it

[velvet anchor]

lemme pull up ie

[sleek pollen]

lab very important
once you get in w4 you should have all your char in lab while one is pushign

[velvet anchor]

my lab is cooked to

[velvet anchor]

https://bohicaya.idleonefficiency.com

[sleek pollen]

https://tenor.com/b0N4T.gif

[velvet anchor]

what i say

[sleek pollen]

gl fixing that back
imma go eep

[velvet anchor]

lmao

[slim horizon]

Hey ! Who’s the ideal character to push world 3-4 ?

[candid harness]

DK if active bb if afk

[delicate harbor]

which arena rank should i achieve with that team?

[obtuse whale]

what happens if i dont have a silver pen?

[candid harness]

It explodes(nothing happen)

[obtuse whale]

do i still get po box?

[candid harness]

No if u ran out of silver pen

[echo radish]

This is a reading is hard moment

[obtuse whale]

i dont read hard

i dont read at all

[echo radish]

Based

[sleek stone]

Divinity artifact are at what map?

[obtuse whale]

w5 town

[inner crane]

Does breedability have any use after unlocking next pet?

[obtuse whale]

shiny

[inner crane]

Heart one helps getting the shiny?

[obtuse whale]

all the multi

[inner crane]

Okkk, thanks, i thought it was just for next pet

[formal flume]

What're worthwhile ways other than the bubble to raise accuracy? my accuracy vs chockies is only 85% and i feel like raising it will be a simple way to bring my kph up

[candid harness]

Cards, secondary stat, stamps

[heavy terrace]

is this enough candies? (pushing with barb)

[candid harness]

More than enough i think but depends on your kph i guess

[obtuse whale]

worship too

[heavy terrace]

im worried that when i push to w4 i wont have enough acc for elite classes

[formal flume]

how does worship raise accuracy?

[obtuse whale]

i mean this

[candid harness]

U definitely wont have enough if u rush like me

[heavy terrace]

my shaquarcy is at level 4 💀

[candid harness]

Definitely not enough then

[heavy terrace]

okay then im gonna fish for some time and then rush

o7

[obtuse whale]

from here

[candid harness]

U can just rush first if u want

Then u can put guys in lab and print the fish

[heavy terrace]

hmm

okay i'll do it i just want the dopamine boost from candies ngl

[candid harness]

Lab gives 2x print so i think its worthwhile to get to w4 first

[candid summit]

its embarassing the ram map is too hard just because of the damage they do instead of me being unable to kill them. they die easily but they hurt me a lot in the process
how do i raise defense faster. i was working on the alchemy bubble but idk

[candid harness]

Just give up on the equinox

Faster to do it normally if u havent unlocked it yet

[candid summit]

but i was just made fun of for not being able to do it
i gotta prove myself

[candid harness]

Even if u unlocked it u still need to do one of the upgrades to unlock the skilling nodes

[candid summit]

idek what a node is

[candid harness]

Its like the fishing pool, ore and tree and stuff

[candid summit]

ooh interesting

[honest pumice]

I'm at penguins in w3, can't access autoreview due to having steam account but was curious what would dramatically increase damage? I keep finding much higher numbers that I'm supposed to have but don't feel like stamps or alchemy would increase those dramatically atm

[dense egret]

Change the helmet

[formal flume]

related to accuracy question, the various "statues give more stat" buffs are only for that character, right?

[formal flume]

better helmet, plat if you can get it

[candid harness]

Alchemy would definitely help drastically and also u need to zow on barb to be able to get high dmg

[candid summit]

for a while

you can make the statue gold and then they can apply to everyone

[dense egret]

What do zow mean

[formal flume]

oh sorry that was ambiguous: the tallents, not the statues themselves, ive been Golding statues for a while

[candid summit]

ohh

[candid harness]

Barbarian talents that gives more dmg if u kill 100k of a type of mobs

The talents are called Appocalype zow

[inner crane]

Cant you link your steam account to an email? I started through steam and I have a link

[dense egret]

That's kinda beyond him rn

[candid summit]

funny the ram map says i have an 18% chance of survival when i keep staying around my max hp

[candid harness]

Yes thats why i mention alchemy first

[honest pumice]

I don't think it works no, I login via steam, not email

[candid harness]

Cant really get dmg on barb other than alchemy and stamps at this stage

[candid harness]

Its only for that character

[dense egret]

Npng

[honest pumice]

will look into whether I miss major stamps then, feel like everything is very costly to upgrade atm

[formal flume]

thank you

[candid harness]

If u are having excess defense and have a high survivability the talent no pain no gain might be an option

But if u barely survive it might not be viable

[honest pumice]

yea, not doing great on that either 😛

[fair violet]

When is it generaly advised to start working on Sigils ?

[candid harness]

W6

Some people dont even touch sigils until they unlock all bubbles

[fair violet]

Ok, so very far from now, thx.

[molten current]

Any tips on making the vman the top skiller for worship and trapping? Trying to get right hand learning to be fully efficient

[iron jay]

crystal cd farm after every skill lvl

[plush blade]

So ive got a level 52 shaman and i want to use him to boost alch... anyone got a decent build?

[iron jay]

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/e/2PACX-1vST3HcgBgeq8H9jztaMhUXZAAAHl120PvDVo_48qJpn6n9qnpa-TWmuG_kN9cmtr66M-OtO482XIOAk/pubhtml

[queen dove]

Can some one help me with grimoire all of my first bone upgrades are really expensive and I'm starting to work on the second level of bones and I'm at wall nuts anything I should do different

[molten current]

Crystal card farm?

[plush blade]

im just at a lost for alchemy. Ive maganged to somehow get my main to like level 30ish in it but i cant get any xp on any other toon. what am i doing wrong

[zenith hare]

you need to view the alchemy couldron in w2 town on every char

[plush blade]

oh ffs

[zenith hare]

to raise them from level 0 to 1, which is the flag to cause them to start earning xp

[zenith hare]

#1330702925294735360 message

[zenith hare]

crystal countdown

the talent

[molten current]

oh that's wtf that does LOL

[iron jay]

decrease need exp for next skill lvl

[molten current]

you dropped this 🫴 👑

thanks!

[iron jay]

you can track your progress via IE (char skills tab)

[heavy terrace]

w4 rush completed

if i put them in the lab they cant do anything else right?

[dense egret]

Get elite classes first then put them in jail for a few weeks

[heavy terrace]

weeks???

oh god

[dense egret]

I'm not kidding I mean it I got to world 4 about like 2 weeks ago and my characters are still in lab

[magic marten]

Get your elite classes have just enough characters to get mr brightside node active and try to push to w5

You can start revisiting lab at div

[heavy terrace]

i started w3 yesterday so i should catch up with skills in w4

[dense egret]

Ah that's great

[magic marten]

Dont put them all in jail have 1 or 2 pushing so you can catch up on your levels and youre not so stagnant

[dense egret]

You got from W2 to W4 in 2 days?

[magic marten]

What skills are you aiming to catch up on?

[heavy terrace]

a lot of candies have been used lol

[heavy terrace]

catching for fmj, fishing for shaquarcy and mining for demantia

my bubbles are STRUGGLING

[dense egret]

Oh boy your gonna love the accuracy check your bout to get

[heavy terrace]

yea ik

[magic marten]

Recraft your stones using w4 stones using your other characters

As they target the classes main stat

If youre lacking accuracy

[river vine]

When afk farming pearler shells, is equipping Midas Mind recommended?

[heavy terrace]

i started playing a week ago

so yeah... i need to catch up a bit

[dense egret]

I'm amazed at how you've even gotten to W4

[heavy terrace]

😭

[heavy terrace]

owl bonuses carried me

[dense egret]

Even owl has its limits you've just gotten to W4 with thoughts and prayers

[floral crest]

make your barb print bloaches

[heavy terrace]

yeah ik but ive been pushing with barb 24/7 so my fishing is ass

gonna work on that now

[dense egret]

Your so cooked

[floral crest]

You gotta swap to something active like DK/ES if you wanna push w4

[heavy terrace]

yup im gonna go dk

[daring pine]

How much of a pain would it be to get a red skull on every monster in the death note?

[uneven obsidian]

depend on your kph really

worth getting it done so you can get eclipse skull faster when you unlock htem

just make sure to do it on your BB/DB so it count toward its talent

[daring pine]

Not there yet but will keep it in mind

[atomic fable]

So I was on this map, then I was checking construction, then I ended up dying to a crystal spawn

Is it normal for around here for that to start happening?

[inner crane]

Well, crystal monster uses a multiplier on top of the monster stats, so depending on your def/acc, yeah

[atomic fable]

I have around maybe 800 defence?

[exotic swallow]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1296598621839687743/1334589161998516314/attachment.gif

[inner crane]

Yeah, normal I guess, since almost 6k to no dmg from the normal mob, crystal can wreck you

Youre fine for afk, since its 100% survivability, but maybe dont active there

[atomic fable]

Once the auto respawn happens, I'm turning off auto and dealing with the crystal one from a distance

but yeah that gave me quite the warning that I should watch out for crystal spawns now

[inner crane]

Yeah, if youre dealing with it, its fine, just dont leave it there on active, you know

[livid vine]

U can get it earlier on in game as well, just based on ur crystal spawn chance

[atomic fable]

yeah, I might want to consider either more healing food or more defence

[livid vine]

Early game chances are low but not zero so if u active play u may run into it especially if u active idle for awhile

[inner crane]

If it is too much damage, healing wont help

[atomic fable]

Normal ones deal ~150 if I remember right and I have 3.4k HP on DK

I have 767 defence (I was finally able to check)

[inner crane]

I mean, damage formulae is a little rough

Crystal monster has 2.5dmg of the monster

[atomic fable]

Managed to deal with the crystal monster on the 2nd try keeping a distance

but yeah, I need to be aware of crystal spawns now

[livid vine]

I would just leave the map, like swap servers haha

I did that a few times early game

[atomic fable]

True, that is another way I could deal with it as well if it's too strong

[worn tulip]

yayyy blunder herooo

this is so underwhelming

[atomic fable]

Should I consider getting more defence? (I have 767)

[rapid osprey]

Just got a chizoar key is it worth pushign to W4 when none of my guys are 100 and I am halfway through getting a maestro?

[white lintel]

Most of the good ones are self explanatory, just check the wiki

[slim horizon]

Hey ! i dont reall understand where to place the first flags ? (no corner, only side but directly close to the existing mat ?)

[white lintel]

do the cheapest ones first

[slim horizon]

okay ! and for cog and build, squire should be placed doing cogs on shelf or on the main ?

And for trapping, should i set it up on all my characters just like alchemy and smithing ?

[indigo stratus]

yeah

[atomic fable]

How do I reach void coins?

[indigo stratus]

start with froges and mutant crabbos to make better traps

[indigo stratus]

void coin is like 1B coins? or 1T I forget

[atomic fable]

Idk if I can reach that before w5

[indigo stratus]

you 100% can't

unless you just stay in w4 a long long time

[slim horizon]

And which row of construction should i focus on ? Only got first of each row

[indigo stratus]

!merit3

[candid scarab]

1️⃣ One point into Telekinetic Storage which has an ability to deposit all items in your inventory into the chest while destroying everything on the ground. This is a great quality of life feature. Skip this if you have the ram companion.
2️⃣ Buy until you have 3 building spots and 3 food slots. This can be between 0 and 2 purchases depending on gem shop purchases. Food slots will help your pusher go faster and 3 building spots is a 50% construction speed boost.
3️⃣ Talent levels are hugely important and the library should be used as much as possible.
4️⃣ The 3D printer will be how you get most of you skilling materials in the future. To make good use of it you need your sample size to be as close to the 90% cap as possible.
5️⃣ Buy the rest. More slots = more better.
6️⃣ Leveling telekinetic storage gives up to +13.6% Carry Cap which is good for afking longer, stamps and crafting, but is not a priority early on.
7️⃣ You won't get enough points to consider buying respawn for a long time by which you will have cleared all W3 portals.
Get the first level when you reach rank 3 on orange salt and get another level each time a new salt reaches rank 3.
⚔️ The last recipe is for the Chizoars Caustic Scarf which is best in slot for a long time giving both damage and respawn. Get this when you can complete the associated task of beating Chizoar with 8 characters. Other recipes are for Chizoar gear. The helmet gives +15% damage and can be considered if you are making purple salt. The other pieces are mediocre but some make the chestplate for 3% damage.

[indigo stratus]

you can buy extra slots

[slim horizon]

haven't unlocked w3 merit shop yet, just reached it :p
Was just wondering if rushing to death note is a great idea and on which row in construction the good contrusctions are

[turbid stag]

I am guessing @atomic fable need coins for Alchemy P2W, Forge and Smithing + shops.

You can definitely max P2W in Alchemy and the others in W4 if you are mid W4 you will get a lot of coins from Colosseum, accuracy damage could maybe be an issue for the last monsters that spawn in Colosseum.

[atomic fable]

I have 1m max damage on dk

[night sable]

if you're playing w4 well you probably wont even have one before you hit w5

[coarse bobcat]

what is the command for equipment for the worlds

[shadow lark]

just a bit of everything really

prio unlocking new stuff

[night sable]

you do need all of the rows

shrines and death note get good in w4 but you want them unlocked asap so you can unlock more stuff

[wild scaffold]

3rd dungon to beat last boss
carrot 6

[zenith hare]

!gear

[candid scarab]

Gear Recommendations

[worn tulip]

wtf

why would u use w3 stones in w4

yeah thats totally a w3 stone why would you ever do that

[bronze moth]

?

[worn tulip]

my question is

why would you use w3 upgrade stones in w4

[night sable]

youre trolling lmao

[worn tulip]

what

[night sable]

or youre mildly colourblind

those are clearly 2 different stones to me

[worn tulip]

no

i am not colorblind

i can prove it

[bronze moth]

the blue stone is w5 stone it looks close to w3

actually nvm

[night sable]

the blue stone looks nothing like w3

[bronze moth]

sorry thought w3 stones were blue 😭

[night sable]

the w4 one is a little closer but also doesnt look like w3

[worn tulip]

thats clearly darker

[night sable]

w3 vs w4

[worn tulip]

omfg i know whats wrong

my monitor is blue shifted

is wear im not lying

[latent bramble]

lul

[bronze moth]

lol

[night sable]

lol

[worn tulip]

ive known about this

for like 3 years

[bronze moth]

my monitor has max contrast so I can see details but it does get annoying when there's dark stuff/black stuff

well not max

more like a lot of saturation

[worn tulip]

imma make a pic with my phone for context

[night sable]

no youre still trolling

[worn tulip]

omfg

fine let me open discord on my shitter pc

this will take like 5 minutes

might aswell close idleon

so it loads in the next century

ok opening discord

what the fuck

its bluer on the laptop

[pure swan]

how come cogtimizer gives me a completely different profile than my actual cogs when i enter my username

[night sable]

it's bluer in the first picture but i dont see what youre talking about in any of them

[worn tulip]

i rest my case

[night sable]

theyre clearly different

[worn tulip]

the left is w3 and the right is w4

[night sable]

maybe you're purple/pink colourblind

[worn tulip]

the w3 looked purple on my screen

[pure swan]

those are completely different still

[worn tulip]

and the w4 looked straight up blue

[night sable]

go to an optometrist idk

[worn tulip]

so i thought that that was a w3 stone because it looks purplish for me

[worn tulip]

my eyesight is completely normal thank you

[night sable]

[worn tulip]

well not entirely

whatever this is off topic

[night sable]

its about w4

[pure swan]

[worn tulip]

fine then ig the stones really are w4

[night sable]

i've moved the goalposts you need to admit your eyes arent good now

[frail crane]

scam

[worn tulip]

yes i have 6.25/6.75 dioptre glasses

i admit it

[night sable]

aight fair enough

[pure swan]

and slight colorblindness

[frail crane]

buy this?

[worn tulip]

:(

WAIT WHAT DAILY GP CHALLENGES ARE THE SAME FOR EVERYONE?

[frail crane]

bro i dont even have that many unlocked, how am I supposed to do this

[quick pond]

Colosseums

[sturdy totem]

Just to make sure I understand drop rate right, does drop rate not affect the % odds of getting an item inside a rare drop loot table?
Example, it would affect the 1/3 odds to get "Rare Drop" from a crystal monster, but it wouldn't affect the odds of whatever is inside that Rare Drop?

And if so, is there anything that does affect the rare loot odds besides that one journeyman talent?

[indigo stratus]

Dr only effects the basic drops, rare drops in those bags are not effected by dr

There are certain talents to increase the chances of getting things in the rare drop bags but I can't remember which ones

[tepid tiger]

I got crazy problem after a two runs on dungeon and upgrating the stats i'm now back on normal map and i got now about 298k dmg from 460k~ what is it?;x Also on last map accouracy dropped from 97% to 76%~ and survivality from 100 droped to 26% ????????!!!! how?:o

[quick pond]

Did you re-equip all your gear?

[atomic fable]

Did you re-equip all the gear you had prior to dungeon runs?

[tepid tiger]

Yes i re-equiped the gear

and stats changed

Sorry i'm begining player this problem was a cards change.

[hard wraith]

so i had frogecoin to the moon quest active, collected a trap with 400+ frogs and a shiny, but no progress made on quest?

[white path]

do u have the frogs in ur inventory?

[hard wraith]

oh yea im a moron, i forgot how this game works

[errant ice]

How should I get more defense I can't survive the early on in world 3

[hard wraith]

just buy food. amorak armor + w3 upgrade stones is decent enough

[atomic fable]

and I died to a crystal monster again... while I was idle in world 4, do I not have enough defence?

[white path]

!crystal

[candid scarab]

The Crystal Monsters are rare mini-boss spawns that have a 1 in 2,000 chance to spawn whenever you actively kill an enemy. It has 15x HP, 30x Exp, 2.5x accuracy required, and does 2.5x more damage than monsters in your current area.

[atomic fable]

I now know why you don't want crystal monster chance early game

I think for me, the crystal odds are 1 in 1.25k

not sure if that's bad in w4 or not

[white lintel]

Gold meat pies

[inner crane]

I told you it would be a bad idea to go idle in there xD

[atomic fable]

yeah, true xD

should I go get more defence stat for my DK?

before trying to idle it again

[inner crane]

If you wanna push, yeah

[atomic fable]

The crystal spawns might be near the strength of the last w4 map actually

so it's a clear warning to me that my defence might be too low

I'm on this map

[inner crane]

That monster has 5.2k atk, his crystal has 13k
Last monster of w4 has 10k

So its in fact a little stronger

[atomic fable]

Oh, I see

So I might still need a bit more defence? (I'm at 767)

[inner crane]

I mean, to afk, probably not

To active, specially idle, definetely

[atomic fable]

I probably will need it for world 5 soon

[inner crane]

Do you have any def cards?

I didnt push w5 for a long time after getting there

[atomic fable]

with cards, I have +11 base defence active

[inner crane]

No %def?

[atomic fable]

+6% def from equipment

[inner crane]

From cards

[atomic fable]

yeah, that's the cards I have equipped that are defence

[inner crane]

Sheepie, Forest Soul

[atomic fable]

I might be able to drop accuracy cards for defence

[inner crane]

Maybe get 1 tier of equipment higher?

[atomic fable]

That would be Void armour

[inner crane]

Youre over 2x acc till last w4 mob

Also, star sign?

[atomic fable]

I have the +10% but I had also +15% class exp

since I wanted to try to gain more levels to get closer to the 8th character

[inner crane]

To get more characters i would recommend leveling other characters

And maybe let dk push as afk

[atomic fable]

I can gain another +6% from star signs

[inner crane]

If you want to rush w5, I would try to do that

But if your goal is more characters, I would level other toons for now

Its way easier imo

[atomic fable]

I'd lose brightside rn since I can't reach it with 5

is that worth the trade for now? (I'd fall to 1k kph)

[inner crane]

I would push all the way to w5 prioritizing defense

To get to divinity/lab grind at the same time

And while you push divinity to the 5th god I would try to work on some samples

So you can benefit from that afk time

But yeah, youre pretty much gonna be stuck for a while there

[atomic fable]

I could try to get to 32/32 for the 2* card set from world 3 cards

which would be a +2.5%

[inner crane]

I think its more

Its like 5 10 15 20 25 30, no?

[atomic fable]

I have +5% right now for the card set at 1*

Let me check actually

[inner crane]

I have 20 at 3*, so something doesnt add up xD

[atomic fable]

No wait, I don't have 1*, you're right, mb

[inner crane]

1* would be 10

[atomic fable]

I could do some card farming on world 3 a bit to get that set to 1*

[inner crane]

Idk, i rather card farm with ES

[atomic fable]

that's what I was thinking of and sacrifice kph for a bit

[inner crane]

I would just put best def you have and push

After biggole you have 3 maps till you can face the boss

Have you been doing party dungeon?

Theres some defense there too

[magic marten]

Hey cupcake you wont have the amount of def required for most maps as its really high

[atomic fable]

I've done my recent happy hour, can't get x20 for maybe 1 more day

[magic marten]

Do you have the automation arm built?

[atomic fable]

Yes (It's level 3)

[ancient arch]

is there any way in game to have the refinery costs visualized/converted to per hour or day right away

by which i mean not having to do the math myself

[atomic fable]

I can't find any more defence cards that I can equip, this is the best I'm getting

[inner crane]

I mean, toolbox and efficiency do it for you

[atomic fable]

no wa,t, I can get to +25%

[cold wraith]

have you leveled the talent in tab 1

[ancient arch]

i'm a bit spooked by how quickly resource cost is scaling even at early refinery levels lol

[atomic fable]

I haven't

[inner crane]

But its better to be depleted of resources then working on it

Then saving and being salt locked later

[atomic fable]

This is the highest I can seem to push defence to

without gear upgrades

[inner crane]

I mean, it would take a while to push anyway

But if youre invested into getting to w5, i think you can

[magic marten]

You can use dks talent that gives def

[atomic fable]

I just upgraded it as high as I could

Oh wait, that one does decrease damage?

Oh I get what you mean, 1 sec

Is it this?

[cold wraith]

no

[inner crane]

Do you have some golden food for defense?

[cold wraith]

also level up fmj

[atomic fable]

I think I have 1 golden food that does, let me get it real quick

[inner crane]

20 gives 6% and 50 8.8%

[atomic fable]

I do have it, I had it in storage chest for some reason

Without any further upgrades to gear or using the squire talents that boosts defence, this is where it's at

[magic marten]

Yes

[cold wraith]

fmj

[magic marten]

Can i ask why you’re looking for alot of defense? Is it for afk or active?

[inner crane]

Active pushing w4

[atomic fable]

I died twice to a crystal monster spawn

[magic marten]

Do you have haemogoblin star talent?

[atomic fable]

I have that at level 40, but even with that and 1 healing food, it still managed to

I clearly underestimated how strong crystal monsters get in world 4

[inner crane]

I mean, crystals are always the same, they scale off of base monster

[atomic fable]

True

[inner crane]

Just dont push w5 as you get there

[atomic fable]

yeah, world 5 is clearly where I have to catch up a lot of stats

[inner crane]

Lab/Div grind is gonna murder you

[atomic fable]

I am missing 1 piece of dementia armour

which requires me to farm a bit on the sheeps map

[inner crane]

Does it take too long if you print it?

[atomic fable]

I get 144/hr

on the maestro

[inner crane]

1 print on some stronger character just to craft it

Maybe BM or 1 of the mages

Just for 1 day if thats enough

[atomic fable]

bm gets 230/hr without dr boost cards

[inner crane]

374 would be a little over 20 hours assuming you have none

[atomic fable]

it might be worth sacrificing kph for a while to prepare a bit more for the late w4 maps?

[vague pendant]

What should I do with my 2nd dk and es if my dk is pushing

[inner crane]

It depends, what level are they?

[vague pendant]

110 es 95 dk

[inner crane]

I would work on mining for second dk

[atomic fable]

I have 3 options I can do - Push to w5 knowing I'm undergeared, going for the 8th character or going for stronger gear

[inner crane]

And choppin for some early orange bubbles

[inner crane]

I would push only cause you already pushed a lot

If you were earlier in w5 I would prepare a little bit better

Since youre kinda close, i would go for w5 to unlock divinity

[atomic fable]

yeah, I didn't think w4 would get this hard know

[inner crane]

But to be fair, since i did prepare before pushing, im not really sure

[atomic fable]

Alright, I could maybe switch to afk pushing to by more time for gear upgrades?

[inner crane]

How many kills to next portal? Also, do you have candies?

[atomic fable]

It's ~120k

and I don't have many candies

[inner crane]

120k at 2kph would be 2.5 days

[atomic fable]

yeah, true, that's even with brightside

it'd be half of that without it

[inner crane]

If youre willing to wait, theres a lot you can do to actually make it easier

[atomic fable]

yeah, I can wait, I might want to gain more progress on cooking / lab a bit

[inner crane]

The thing with lab is that you kinda wanna farm lab with divinity

[atomic fable]

and possibly unlocking my 8th character

Oh, I see

I finally got my green salts back in production

[inner crane]

Since 5th god lets you farm both at the same time

You are the guy with no efficiency/toolbox cause of steam log in, right?

[atomic fable]

I can use it / ie

[inner crane]

If you can send we can see the easier improving ways

[vague pendant]

What's toolbox

[inner crane]

But yeah, some stamps/alchemy are probably your best bet for now

[atomic fable]

https://idleontoolbox.com/?profile=BakedCupcake My current position for IT

[sonic violet]

Does genetic multiplier in breeding (colored dna upgrade) affect the level of the pet?

[inner crane]

Shield stamp should be free defense for you, polearm stamp for some damage to get more kph

[vague pendant]

Should I be farming chizoar scarf in normal or chaotic

[atomic fable]

Ooh, I see, it's blue

[inner crane]

Not only its blue, but it wont leave you empty like sword stamp

5k to 900k in storage

Bucklet feels expensive, for example

[atomic fable]

I can still get it 1 extra tier with the bars I have

[inner crane]

Kangaroo at last megafish is giving me ~20more defense than yours

I think the last ones are pretty easy

[atomic fable]

I can get the fractal mega fish at any point btw

I was delaying it to try to get more points

[inner crane]

I mean, just showing where you can get some help

[atomic fable]

True

Wait a minute, I can get void helmet

[slim horizon]

Should i max printer talent on my fighting preset ?

[inner crane]

Only if that character is printing mats

But if you have spare resets, i would get good sample, reset and use somewhere else

[slim horizon]

never printed yet, what would you advice ?

[inner crane]

Are you at 3rd class or 2nd?

[atomic fable]

I can craft the void helmet, worth it?

[slim horizon]

first char able to print is a Barbarian

mostly farming

[inner crane]

Barbarian for fish
Squire for ore
Mages for wood
Beast master and maestro materials
The other archer bugs

[inner crane]

lemme check the difference between them, i dont remember

[slim horizon]

i'm pushing with squire rn , should i swap to another ?

[atomic fable]

34 -> 46 defence base

[inner crane]

And 2%

[atomic fable]

So, it's worth the craft? (it uses up almost all my void bars)

[true hamlet]

Get it, you'll eventually want chizoar helmet since moving to troll gear takes a very long time

[inner crane]

Since youre not at void salts yet

Totally

[atomic fable]

Alright

[true hamlet]

You can use your printer to get void ore amd have your forge running constantly

Just make sure you have a salt reserve

[inner crane]

Squire and ES are the best ones to push afaik

[atomic fable]

I have ~ 200 blue salts left after the craft

so I haven't salt locked green

[inner crane]

I pushed w4 and w5 with siege breaker and bubo, so im not the best to say, tho

Second batch of salts is a pain

[atomic fable]

Do I use the upgrade stones on my mage characters or my dk

(damage or accuracy basically)

[true hamlet]

Depends

[inner crane]

You have enough acc

Go for damage

[atomic fable]

true, I have 25.7k accuracy

[true hamlet]

Most likely damage so mainstat

And you can just push shaquracy/use cards if you fall slightly below

[inner crane]

You can take out the bad defense card and put back the accuracy one to have 2x the necessary for all the mobs in w4

So youre fine with acc till there

[atomic fable]

Almost 1.1k defence now, Nice

[runic coral]

ok 150q dmg good or bad

[true hamlet]

I mean, the 2 hydron star signs for defense and accuracy percent can carry you a long way

[inner crane]

Since were on questions w3-w4 i think thats amazing xD

[runic coral]

is ur char named something bakedcupcake somthin

[atomic fable]

Oh wait, mega fish 10 is not the last mega fish?

[inner crane]

Nope, we have 12

[atomic fable]

Yes

[runic coral]

kinda forget since its been a while since ive been on and forgot w3 w4 chat aint gen chat 2.0 anymore

[runic coral]

i was wondering why that name was familiar

[inner crane]

I just find it funny when someone asks about farming here xD

[runic coral]

before it was enforced this was gen chat 2.0

[inner crane]

Probably during my lab/div jail when i didnt check anything at all

[runic coral]

this was pre w6 so even older

[inner crane]

Yeah, my jail was before w6 was out xD

But anyway

To me it looks amazing

[true hamlet]

Looks like I'm stuck doing cc on flombs

[true hamlet]

The water won't drip so I can click my bubbles

[runic coral]

found a new max dmv

still aint enough kph on gmush

[atomic fable]

Does w4 expect you to have some mk?

[runic coral]

nope like after w5

[runic coral]

mk is introduced in w3

[inner crane]

What even is mk xD

[true hamlet]

Early on maybe a bit? But for portal pushing, I think only w6

[white path]

multikill

[runic coral]

multi kill

[inner crane]

OH

Im dumb, sorry

[runic coral]

stop trying to act like hotair

[white path]

how am I acting like him

[runic coral]

mostly mid to late w5

[runic coral]

they way he lurks around even with out us pinging him

[formal flume]

I'm like 5% away from Character 8. What do I make them? DK again, for Construction bonuses?

[true hamlet]

Sure

[runic coral]

id say not to focus on mk untill ur mid to late w5 cause after that it will only increase. im having a hard time to increase kph due to max mk dmg lock 38.9m is my kph on gmush because the hole mk bonus is limited

[atomic fable]

Oh, that means I probably wouldn't get vman till mid-late w5?

[runic coral]

so its like this
2 dk or 2 bb
2 es or 2 sb
1 bubo and 1 vman 1 bm mandatory

[inner crane]

dk and es safest bets

[runic coral]

yep i got it when it got first introduced

[runic coral]

ive got 3

[atomic fable]

I finally got the slime companion

[runic coral]

and 2 bb

[runic coral]

i hav everything but doot but hole does make it better

[inner crane]

Second bb was outdated due to loads of cooking bonuses

But not sure now with death bringer

[vague pendant]

Should i be farming chizoar on normal or C chizoar if i haven't made his set yet and 0 scarfs

[runic coral]

my 2nd bb is a bb while 1st is db

[inner crane]

I wouldnt farm it yet

[runic coral]

yeah dont farm it untill u hav either good dr or good dmg

[inner crane]

farm it when you have both

[vague pendant]

I can kill It fine on chaos

[runic coral]

also lava needs to bring back old chaotic chizoar

[vague pendant]

I just don't know if droprates change or anything

[inner crane]

5x drop rate and 1 hit kill on chaotic i would do chaotic

At least

[runic coral]

id say 7x to 5x then 1 tap

[runic coral]

it does

[inner crane]

So with 5x drop rate, 1 in 2000 becomes 5 in 2000

[runic coral]

it effects it a lot its the reason why dr is the most requested and required stat in the game

[inner crane]

So yeah, helps a lot in fact

[vague pendant]

So chaotic is 5x drops?

[runic coral]

nope its based of ur dr

so 1x dr mean 1 in 2k
5x dr mean 5 in 2k
9x dr mean 9 in 2k
and so goes on

[inner crane]

No, not really

[maiden bloom]

lol

[atomic fable]

So 2 in 2k is = 1 in 1k?

[inner crane]

Yes

[vague pendant]

So for scarf they're both 1/2000 normal and chaotic?

[inner crane]

1 in 1000 for normal
1 in 313 for chaotic

But since its still % and not guaranteed

[runic coral]

it works differently due to dr

[vague pendant]

So at 2x Dr chaotic is more likely

I'll just stockpile keys till w5

[inner crane]

Yeah, 2 drop rate feels like a waste of keys

I just made chizoar set for 9 characteres, i have 3 scarfs

I will come back with vman to farm scarfs and cards later

[atomic fable]

Is it a good sign if I can beat 1 nightmare boss at w4 progression roughly?

[inner crane]

5 drop rate is 100% drop for his material drops at chaotic

[inner crane]

Sorry, i dont get it

[atomic fable]

I recently tried the nightmare amarok fight and managed to win quite easily

[inner crane]

I mean, he has 100m hp and his best hit is 8k

[runic coral]

my lowest dr char is my 3rd dk it got the scarf on its 11th try on chaotic mode

[inner crane]

Chaotic chizoar is way harder

[atomic fable]

I was actually also able to defeat chaotic chizoar with much lower defence (~700 or 800)

[inner crane]

I mean, for bosses you can avoid all the hits

[atomic fable]

True

I mainly did it for the task

[inner crane]

Yep

I only did it when i could craft the set, tho

[true hamlet]

I'm still trying to drop last 4 scarfs haha

I might start trying nightmare instead

[north compass]

if you just need scarfs normal is most key effective

but ofc takes longer

[runic coral]

@fossil kayak i need u to explain something to me

[fossil kayak]

[north compass]

hi mr zebra man

[runic coral]

i havent boss farmed in a while so tf is going now

[north compass]

last update lava became mean

and made it annoying to farm

[true hamlet]

Yeah I've been doing normals.. but I do need the green spikes to upgrade too, might circle back later

[north compass]

his rents probably due or smth and he needs people to buy gems

[north compass]

then just do chaotic

[fossil kayak]

Ah, couple things. The redo button now takes longer to appear after a kill and the location is randomized. If you click the wrong spot, you get tele'd to town.

[runic coral]

i kept on teleporting back to town when ever i multi press near the rest location

[true hamlet]

I need my sanity

[runic coral]

why tho

[north compass]

how many keys do you have

[runic coral]

8k

[atomic fable]

I found out if you don't have enough keys to retry, it doesn't teleport you back

[true hamlet]

Not a lot, a reasonable amount

[fossil kayak]

To stop people from rule4ing their daily boss kills

[north compass]

but whyd he have to slow it down

[fossil kayak]

[true hamlet]

I don't think 70 normal chizoars is supposed to take 45 mins

[runic coral]

try 70 nightmare

[true hamlet]

My dr and orb sucks

[runic coral]

eh can't be that bad

[true hamlet]

155 orb and 3dr

And a daggerang that can't full clear

[atomic fable]

I have 45.8k orb

[true hamlet]

Talent level*

[atomic fable]

Oh

I only have level 74 orb

[true hamlet]

Fury relic soon trust me

[runic coral]

im lazy

ima find a way to break this game again as i usually do

currently on 15th nightmare

[atomic fable]

Nice drop rarity

[runic coral]

i wasn't even maxed

[atomic fable]

I can only reach ~ 2x drop rarity

Should I upgrade all the combat stamps that I can?

[true hamlet]

Is that a real question?

[atomic fable]

IS something wrong with my gold? by IT, it says I can upgrade the stamp, but for some reason, I can't find the gold anywhere in storage

[tropic crest]

where is the jungle for the ice cream mans quest?

[shadow lark]

Trapper? To the left

[tropic crest]

no i knew where the trapper was, but i wanna know where to put the trap

[shadow lark]

Slimes in w1

[tropic crest]

thank you!

[exotic dock]

is there a preferred food/gold food to use for w4 for BB? im using golden meat pie and a reg food currently

[north compass]

most of the time early on pushing you just want health pot and healing foods since you dont get a lot from gold yet

[exotic dock]

oh, well ok then 🙂

i guess 1200hp is better than 30def from gold food lol

thank you

[north compass]

[pine fiber]

wish I had ruck sack, it'd make ES farming so much easier

[atomic fable]

Is this good stamp progress so far for w4? I'm working on the blue ones

Oh wait, the mana stamp needs copper ore, oops

[north compass]

i mean stamps are basically just upgrade when you can tbh, i dont know whats good levels

[atomic fable]

Alright

[slim horizon]

Hey ! I'm starting to slow down due to accuracy around snowmens in W3.
What are the easy way to increase it ?
Amarok + viking helm + Golden weapon upgraded fully. One serrated rex, farming for the second one.

[dusty apex]

shaquracy bubble (9th green) if you got it

[earnest epoch]

question can we automate bug catching

[pine fiber]

you could pump some points into your accuracy increasing stat

[dusty apex]

what do you mean automate

[earnest epoch]

like we have the printer ik but im thinking something like how you can auto worship at a dedicated machine via construction

[north compass]

huh

[pine fiber]

no, just printer

[rugged kiln]

No, it’s just afk at catching nests and printer

[north compass]

the worship isnt even auto

[dusty apex]

printer is all you got or time candy at the nest

[earnest epoch]

noted

[pine fiber]

then whats msa?

[north compass]

easy access

[pine fiber]

the wording is definitely borked for it

[north compass]

its not automatic, it just lets you do it from anywhere

well not anywhere, but w3 town

[earnest epoch]

do you think lava will add doing something like that for like catching?

i say probably not but one can hope

[pine fiber]

doubt

[dusty apex]

no need, late game bugs have little to no use you cant cover with a quick 1 hour time candy

[pastel shuttle]

When can I start using my mage to worship with his skill? Wanted to make better skulls but discovered they also have a worship level requirement but my chars don't get worship xp when using the mage 😭

[pine fiber]

balloon

[north compass]

no and there really isnt benefit to it, printer is enough

[north compass]

never use siphon

[earnest epoch]

all you need to do is have the worship thing in town 3 and bring your mage there via the portal

[pine fiber]

yeah, dont use siphon, at all

[pastel shuttle]

Oh boy, have only been doing that cause I had to level it from the talent cheat sheet.

[pine fiber]

😭

[pastel shuttle]

A certain prayer?

[atomic fable]

I used to use siphon

but I don't really use it anymore

[earnest epoch]

no just use the building that lets you worship from any totem

i gtg guys i got a migraine and need a nap byeee

[pastel shuttle]

Ty for the info, gl!

[earnest epoch]

oh! and thanks for answering my question earlier see ya

[pastel shuttle]

What is the worship thing called in w3?

[white path]

tower defense?

[dusty apex]

you mean the thing in town that lets you collect souls without needing to go the map?

[pine fiber]

yeah they probably meant MSA to collect souls from

I probably just got ruck sack if my game doesnt crash

there are some really sketchy moments between 100 and 110 tho

[pastel shuttle]

Yeah the one that prevents me from getting baited by syphon 😂

[pastel shuttle]

Yeah, do I unlock it somewhere here in the future?

[white path]

its from automation arm

[atomic fable]

Yes (Automation Arm Level 3)

[pastel shuttle]

daaaang that'll take a while

[pine fiber]

yeah

[dusty apex]

auto arm is 2nd last on that row if you didnt know

[pastel shuttle]

Welp, guess I discovered that siphon is a bait and I have to refund the talent points 😂

[pine fiber]

yeah there is quite a few beginner bait stuff

[atomic fable]

I also fell for it as well with the siphon

[pine fiber]

probably most of us did

[atomic fable]

I might have to reset my talents on my es as well (Skilling)

[pine fiber]

I thought I should check on my characters' charges, caught this

really gotta give the skulls some love, most of my characters are stuck with manifested

[forest portal]

lol

[pine fiber]

gorfest 111-120 is such a huge aids holy shit I wanna claw my face off

[limpid dragon]

does this not work if you used the normal entry?

[pine fiber]

no, you have to use it before you do arena

[limpid dragon]

love it thanks

[pine fiber]

makes 0 sense, welcome to idleon

[limpid dragon]

this still viable to unlock 5th slot? i hate this content lol

[pine fiber]

idk, there is a pet guide for arena comps in !guide

been a while since I did it

[limpid dragon]

fair enough ig. im using whatever is in this google doc

[pine fiber]

yeah that should be good

[agile willow]

#midgame-chat-w3🧊w4🔮 message @thorn mango its at the end of the message

[atomic fable]

What level should I try to get the 1st recipe at during world 4?

[thorn mango]

I have a question if I'm farming nuttos on es for bullseye statues do I go for dr or mk?

[latent bramble]

mk won't affect bullseye statues

[thorn mango]

I see

[thorn mango]

Statues

[atomic fable]

Is it good that I hit early w4 in auto review in world 4 itself?

[latent bramble]

bruv. 0

throw something into those

[thorn mango]

Where is pow statues?

[latent bramble]

those are mostly from the monolith quest

[thorn mango]

Uh fuck

[latent bramble]

but 0 fish and souls
hella low other ones, too

[thorn mango]

I accidentally spent the other 10k of each

[atomic fable]

Is it worth trying to unlock onix statues as soon as I have the quest for it?

[steel nymph]

how do u accidentally spend 10k statues

[steel nymph]

no

[thorn mango]

No clue

[steel nymph]

it's just wasting time if u have low dr and no cookie chip

and no dk

[latent bramble]

it happens. i did it with something

[steel nymph]

wasup acecow

[atomic fable]

I do have dk

although the dr and no cookie chip might limit me?

[steel nymph]

yes

i think u need to have like 5 or smt dr above?

[thorn mango]

This is on es can I just farm them on dk and hand them to es or no?

[steel nymph]

yea that works

haven't even onyxed kapow yet

[atomic fable]

Any idea how to increase dr in world 4?

[steel nymph]

too lazy to do it

[latent bramble]

for statue farming, ideally 10x+ but you can start around 8x, it'll just be noticeably slower by a day or two for your first 20k

[thorn mango]

Ace

[steel nymph]

do your owls is a good source for dr early on

[latent bramble]

Reaper

[thorn mango]

Do you know ace

[latent bramble]

yes

the next one for 100k or w/e has to be done on the character

[steel nymph]

didn't even realise that was reaper

i was so close to hitting 25 dr on my dk

[thorn mango]

So should I even do it on es

Should I just do it on my other dk

[latent bramble]

you should do all your powers on DK

the next quest, which is 100k statues gained, has to be done by the character with the quest

that one gives the 10k kapow statues

ES is fine since you'll want to farm w3 statues with it

bb/vman are better off skilling for theirs

[atomic fable]

Alright, it's at +19.5%

I went to check on it

[thorn mango]

Should I farm w2 or w1 crystals for power statues?

[latent bramble]

Considering these are the only mob sources for power statues

[pine fiber]

bored beans

[atomic fable]

Should I soon start consideirng going for the equinox since I'm a lot more into world 4?

[latent bramble]

You can open it if you want, though I doubt you'll be able to finish any of the challenges atm

[atomic fable]

Once you unlock the equinox on 1 character, can all characters access it on the map teleport?

[latent bramble]

i've still got to unlock rams on one character

[pine fiber]

ace, look what I got

didnt spend all my souls tho, it remains a greenstack

[wispy crescent]

Can someone help me with Wellington quest. Tryna get stamps for ES buff

[atomic fable]

Is +13 all stat very strong in world 4?

I got it from leveling up owl's bonus

[agile willow]

not very strong but its a little bit that can make a difference

[fresh rain]

It's not much to start but it'll certainly help in the long run

[atomic fable]

True, from owl, I got +13 from the owl boost upgrade and +3 from fractal 2

[young ibex]

to unlock voidwalker does my begginer have to kill 12 million mushrooms or do I have to have 12 million mushroom kills

[sick warren]

any point to getting higher deathnotes on anyone besides g mush?

[latent bramble]

on your maestro

there are a few mobs for weeklyboss where having more kills is beneficial. hopefully most of those 1Bs are on your BB, too

beyond that, nothing atm

[onyx mesa]

is there any construction guide, I can't find any in pins

[brave crater]

Rizz

[foggy widget]

dayyyyum

[latent bramble]

!guide has some info, there's not much to it tbh

[candid scarab]

Mid-Late Game guide for World 3 / 4 / 5:
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/e/2PACX-1vSCepYAs6sNDP4iq6MJNAG1pvFXzfC_3IQ7ttt5vfEEKAgQhIk4cQqnLRyeH6UyqDSuP4R-6WQeDmmP/pubhtml
Video Guides (by GriffyBit):
https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLVGSDQs1AcvjYTAPtYV6ofbeeEfHpEcb4

[pure swan]

are my prints ok? (early w4 mman only, mainly asking if the items themselves are good because the amounts are basically as high as i can get them)

[brave crater]

Trash

[onyx mesa]

thanks

[pure swan]

what should i be printing instead

[brave crater]

Do ur prints

Wood logs

Use this

Boosts chopping

[atomic fable]

This is a recommendation - Try to have Barbarian / BB to fishing, Mages to Logs, SB to Catching and DK to Ores. Mman and BM can focus on refinery and monster drops

[brave crater]

Rizz

[brave crater]

W prints

[atomic fable]

Thanks

[brave crater]

Redo ur log prints tho

[atomic fable]

yeah, I still have to on my es

[brave crater]

Lvl up multi logo

[atomic fable]

I did my bubo reprints earlier, I should redo my es prints as well know

[pure swan]

ur right actually i forgot to redo a couple

ty

[brave crater]

Uh do that on bubo and es

[brave crater]

U get more logs

[pure swan]

alr said it was on an mman only

[brave crater]

Oh then do refinery

Like spore caps

[pure swan]

was mainly asking if the items themselves were fine since im early w4 and have been doing refinery prints all w3

[brave crater]

I have green stacks on g mush caps

[atomic fable]

Here's a few things you can utilise

Alchemy - Multi log chance, Any efficiency boosts + afk gains, and prowess if efficiency is high enough.
Star Signs - There's star signs that boost skill afk gains and efficiency
Log on Logs - This increases logs quanity for a few minutes and does boost prints significantly.
Efficiency equipment - If you can, wear stuff that boosts the source you're planning to print.

This is for logs, for multi log chance, there's also bubbles for other resources

like multi ore chance, hope this helps with prints

[brave crater]

!chopchart

[brave crater]

Use

[pure swan]

around what stage should i start shifting away from refinery prints and do other stuff?

[brave crater]

Never

[pure swan]

got it

[atomic fable]

You always want either the bm or vman to be doing refinery

Should I work on inventory space slots for my es / dk before finishing w4?

[brave crater]

Idk are u broke

[brave crater]

U should do bribes

[atomic fable]

I can reach dementia coins

but it takes a while

[civic blade]

should the kraken push from that distance ? seems wrong

[brave crater]

Oh I have void coins

[limpid dragon]

the eyeballs will follow the mob as they push it away

[atomic fable]

I can't comfortably get the remaining bribes for world 4

since 1 of the last ones needs void coins and idk how to reach that

[brave crater]

Do active bubo

[atomic fable]

Oh, what does bubo achieve with coins?

[brave crater]

It’s just better

Get ur meals up

[atomic fable]

Oh, Alright

[brave crater]

Like the coin % and stamps

[atomic fable]

Oh, the meals from cooking, I haven't unlocked many spices yet

I am missing some inventory bag drops from some monsters which I can use es to obtain

[marble silo]

is this worth upgrading?

[uncut shadow]

how do i increase 3d printer prints

[atomic fable]

How do you have -1 divinity level?

[marble silo]

w5 not unlocked yet idk

[atomic fable]

Might be that, I'm not sure

[sleek pollen]

it is not

[sleek pollen]

for skilling resources : skilling afk gains, boost food, cards, card set, star signs, skilling speed and eff, like gear and tools

[atomic fable]

How useful is this? I got it pretty high level for unlocking it

[sleek pollen]

not worth as you're not gonna farm money anytime soon imo

[atomic fable]

1 of the late w4 goals is unlocking all world 4 bribes, which requires void coins and that is a fair point

[sleek pollen]

what goals? from scoli's tool?

[atomic fable]

yeah (the ar one)

[sleek pollen]

you dont have to be end w4 (from scoli's tools) when finishing w4 like you could just ignore most part and backtrack later in w5 or w6

like by the time I got to w6 I was early w3 because of 2 things then it got me mid w4 I reckon

[atomic fable]

True, it wasn't until more recently where ar mentioned I was in early w4

[sleek pollen]

just as long as you don't forget to do the things from previous world you should be fine

like straight ignoring them is bad as you'll probably miss some nice bonus from here and there

[atomic fable]

true, by auto review, I'm Early World 4

[sleek pollen]

only thing thats slowing the minimum progression is the monster point for anvil and me too lazy

[atomic fable]

For me, the monster point for anvil is a requirement for me in late w4

[sleek pollen]

damn

[atomic fable]

I probably will likely obtian those points before w5

[atomic fable]

I've been trying to get this card for over 15 minutes now and I haven't got 1 yet. Is this card useful for world 4 and later?

[cold wraith]

eh

[atomic fable]

if accuracy ends up being an issue

[cold wraith]

if you plan on using dk for w5

but i would honestly hold off on that till you have accu issues

cus by then youll have more dmg and dr (hopefully) making it faster to farm cards

cus i farmed on es overnight one day for wood circles and got it ruby

[atomic fable]

Oh, Nice

My dr on es is 2.27x

[cold wraith]

yea thats pretty low

[atomic fable]

I've now hit the normal skull for it, still nothing, what increases dr on w4?

[upper veldt]

40 mins into round 50

[cold wraith]

nothin rly

i would just worry about pushing to w6

[atomic fable]

Finally got 1/10 cards

[cold wraith]

smartly ofc

smartly as in not neglecting every skill

catchup is a ton easier in w6 than doing it in w4

[cold wraith]

no void?

[sleek pollen]

no hunter/bm

[cold wraith]

still that wave wouldnt take 40 minutes with void

[sleek pollen]

yeah ik also

[white lintel]

If you don’t have slow roast wiz it’s probably not gonna happen

[sleek pollen]

broski probably doesn't

[cold wraith]

still better than my wave 20 frosty

[upper veldt]

Don't have

[sleek pollen]

I reckon I got wave 50 with that setup, don't remember my tower level tho

[cold wraith]

def switch to full poisonic after void tho

[atomic fable]

Do you think after a while, I could get this done? I have level 19 boulder, level 4 party and level 3 storm in terms of missing.

I did recently unlock kraken when I unlocked green salts

[cold wraith]

can get boulder up easy

[sleek pollen]

the tower level shown in the pic is what the dude used at the time, you could proly to it at a lower level boulder than shown

[sleek pollen]

probably one of the few genuine advice from wafflingMissus

[cold wraith]

dadummy

and i also finally got my red salts to 22

well 24 now

[atomic fable]

Ik I was recommended to not touch sigils until much later, but I thought why not get the 1st 3 or 4 for the increased base stat alone

[cold wraith]

thats fine but just dont do much further

[sleek pollen]

thats fine having the first few

just dont do sigil after that

[sleek pollen]

grrr

[atomic fable]

yeah, I looked at ar, they get very expensive very quickly

[cold wraith]

need faster fingers bud

once i finish getting gt bubble to 10k im def hopping back on this

[atomic fable]

I think after the luck stat base sigil, I should move them back to water / bubbles?

[upper veldt]

Don't have void. And still going

[sleek pollen]

you mean gotta remove the 5sec message because I sent mine before, also I finished writing the second message before you sent yours but I had to wait

[pure swan]

this is the absolute best i can get rn lmao (accounting for levels, gear, stats, etc.) (pusher is at demon genies btw)

[cold wraith]

skill issue honestly

[cold wraith]

boy what mine sent first

[sleek pollen]

I see mine first but thats another issue for a different chat

[sleek pollen]

are all your char pushing or all sitting in lab and one pushing to elite?

[cold wraith]

i leg press 25 you dont want to mess with me

[atomic fable]

I think very early lab, you can reach the printer boost with 6 characters?

[sleek pollen]

oh yeah right jman only acc

didn't see the name lmao

hm I guess lab still worth it no? unless you trynna level their skill to access new zone then yeah

[pure swan]

was disappointed with how getting to elite class only got me like a couple purple coins

in skilling them rn to separate their levels since they're all somewhat even, to get the left/right hand boosts

how many should i put in lab once im done with that?

probably all of them xcept for the lowest two, have them get a little bit of levels?

[sleek pollen]

as many needed to get x2 prints, x3 ref and x2 kill

[sleek pollen]

yeah usually you'd put everyone in lab while one is pushing

[pure swan]

i got one dude that's lab level 20 and everyone else is level 1 lmao

[sleek pollen]

damn

gotta get them lab node my guy

[atomic fable]

I can almost rank up red salts to 9 😄

[sleek pollen]

nice

[atomic fable]

Same with green salts too

[pure swan]

i just used time candies to skip the wait on the normal skills (i had a ton left over, i thought maestro on 7 chars would be harder)

[radiant nebula]

how lon gu reckon its been 10 mins already

[atomic fable]

What colour is that for td?