midgame-chat-w3🧊w4🔮

[cold wraith]

seems fine

[atomic fable]

Everyone is in lab right now due to brightside

[shy ruin]

if you don't have killer's brightside then it's super good

[atomic fable]

It'd be half of this if no brightside

[shy ruin]

eh you'll be fine, get some of those class levels while you're at it

[upbeat cargo]

you can do active DK for more kills

[shy ruin]

killer's brightside only doubles the kills, and not xp/drops

[atomic fable]

That's what I'm doing, I'm on DK rn

[shy ruin]

👍

[robust marsh]

Hey why can't I gain exp in Equinox?

[cold wraith]

you cant gain skill xp if you dont have high effi

the only skill you can get xp from without having high effi is fishing

which is why active eq is best for fishing 30

[robust marsh]

Hmmm

On which lvl is fishing unlocked?

[atomic fable]

Ik a guide video I saw requires void armour and tools, is this preferable?

as I'm still mostly dementia

[shy ruin]

for w4? nah, dementia should be fine

dementia tools and armor should be fine throughout w4

[robust marsh]

Nah I pushed w4 with mostly dementia and amarok boots

[atomic fable]

I've been mostly stuck just pushing on DK since I can't use my other characters for anything due to the lab

[cold wraith]

couldve gotten more

[robust marsh]

Hmmmm

[shy ruin]

oh god, this is gonna take forever

[cold wraith]

yea that took me the most candies

terrible kph compared to other maps

[robust marsh]

How are you getting that much kph I cleared it with 2k kph

And the whole w4

[shy ruin]

this is only my second character... i need to get 5 there for begone troll

[shy ruin]

nobisect

[robust marsh]

Ah ye I forgot

[cold wraith]

nobi in w4?

[shy ruin]

second character, i'm in w5

[cold wraith]

also make sure to re-equip skilled dimwit and royal sampler before you forget

[bronze moth]

bro i'm at 2.4k on octodars what the

[cold wraith]

octodars should have high kpk 💀

[forest portal]

can u one shot?

[shy ruin]

yeah true

[robust marsh]

Hey I got a question if I am using lab 2x kill node with nobisect does it stack?

[zenith hare]

uhhh no

[forest portal]

yes

[sleek stone]

octodars are only 2 platform

[zenith hare]

people have about 2.5x less then that

[sleek stone]

the last one is the hard one

[shy ruin]

i know i just hate biggole worms but i have to grind them for the god damn storage chest

[atomic fable]

How do you have 6.2k?!

[shy ruin]

and i need to get all 10 characters to troll eventually

[zenith hare]

active ES gets it quick

[bronze moth]

2.4k is still pretty managable kph not too bad

[sleek stone]

but not if your boomerang are BIG

[bronze moth]

i need to get that damage up tho

[shy ruin]

wait no, i only need to get the 4 troll recpies then i'm done

[robust marsh]

?

[bronze moth]

i only have 1m max dmg

[sleek stone]

get big boomerang

[shy ruin]

yep, how do you think i have 6k kph lmao

[zenith hare]

yes, it becomes 4x

:3

[robust marsh]

Good now I do some hundred kph on red mush

[bronze moth]

DAMAGE (and afk gains, and also kpk and yeah)

[shy ruin]

that's crazy

[atomic fable]

Is it worth it to stop pushing after finishing world 4?

[robust marsh]

Ye I did that

[sleek stone]

same

[robust marsh]

I am not pushing anymore

[bronze moth]

2.4k is not too bad i want the afk gains stuff tho

[zenith hare]

smol

[shy ruin]

if you ask me 4m-8m isn't that high compared to 300m

[bronze moth]

yeah damage

[sleek stone]

i just go divinity jail

[forest portal]

the name is crazy

[shy ruin]

oh hey i didn't realize i have exactly 56k kills left on purgatory stalkers

[robust marsh]

..

[forest portal]

why is all your char on evverywhere

[shy ruin]

wdym

oh yeah and i also have these two

[forest portal]

why u farming sheep and bop box

[shy ruin]

bop box for audio cord for void platebody

sheepies for refinery because i need to print other things

[forest portal]

just sample

dont do the same mistake as me

[sleek stone]

yeah gonna need void tho

[forest portal]

l did that for 1 month

its not worth the time to farm maunally

[robust marsh]

Suggest a good name

[sleek stone]

oh yeah sample could work

[forest portal]

just print

[cold wraith]

"D. yas (world 5)"

exceptional name if you ask me

[shy ruin]

lol how do i still have 100% survivability on my farming build

[true hamlet]

It's great but you already have ES, the only one that should be of any problem is sand

[sleek stone]

does 4x kill boost the print sample?

[robust marsh]

Nope

[sleek stone]

nobisect boost it?

[shy ruin]

nope

[true hamlet]

Food

[sleek stone]

damn

[true hamlet]

It's kpk so no

[shy ruin]

don't think so

[true hamlet]

Survivability isn't hard to get tbh

[forest portal]

what the

[robust marsh]

Hey pls suggest a good name please

[shy ruin]

yeah you're right

[sleek stone]

same" boost

[forest portal]

ldk bro any things good

[robust marsh]

Like cakecrabs

[forest portal]

just dont be like me and spam a buch of letters

[sleek stone]

the only thing that boost crystal spawn are nightmare on w5

i lost 50% just 1 hit

[cold wraith]

you do a short name for that one stupid question in w2

[robust marsh]

Any kinda name that will help me with any quest?

[shy ruin]

short name for wellington quest

[forest portal]

oh yeah p and s

[cold wraith]

or names that start with S or P to help other people

[sleek stone]

chill idle guy

[cold wraith]

gotta be caps

[robust marsh]

Short name?

[forest portal]

yup

[shy ruin]

yes

[true hamlet]

Wellington is pain

[robust marsh]

Like how small

[sleek stone]

oh yeah wellingtong gonna be pain

[forest portal]

8 at the most

[shy ruin]

i only discovered wellington's final quest after naming my first 5 characters, and by then it was too late to turn back

(13 character name)

pain and suffering

[forest portal]

lol

[cold wraith]

i have 14 on all characters 💀

[true hamlet]

All my chars have max too

[forest portal]

how many do u have to kill

[atomic fable]

That's a quest?!

[forest portal]

add a S or P in frount

[shy ruin]

slavalame

[forest portal]

it helps other people

[cold wraith]

capital S or capital P

[shy ruin]

oh yeah i have yet to find someone with p/s

mine's lowercase because yes

[forest portal]

l can help with P

l dont have S tho

[shy ruin]

mine's actually lowercase i actually didn't know i needed to have it capital

[true hamlet]

I have an alt with p and s

[shy ruin]

don't worry i'll name my 9th character Skibidi idle9 instead of skibidi idle9

[forest portal]

but isnt all the letters cap lock?

[robust marsh]

No

[atomic fable]

is 2.2k kph very bad at choccies?

even with brightside active

[forest portal]

then why do it display in cap letters?

[robust marsh]

Id think so

[robust marsh]

Yep

[forest portal]

yes very

[atomic fable]

welp, I guess I'm pushing too early 😭

[forest portal]

even wores if bs is active

go work on alch

[robust marsh]

What class this guy should be?

[sleek stone]

if 50% then no

[atomic fable]

It's at 61% afk gains

[sleek stone]

yeah that quite low

i got that on 40% afk gains

[forest portal]

shit l trash one of my reroll pop obal

[atomic fable]

then my stats are bad, aren't they?

[sleek stone]

nah

[forest portal]

ldk

[sleek stone]

you have good on all alchemy tho just need some dmg

[white lintel]

Your account looks good, it sounds like something small isn’t right

Bc you should be able to breeze through w4

[atomic fable]

This is the only bubble I think is underleveled, but that might be all the obvious things I can see?

[forest portal]

kill per kill is vgood

[atomic fable]

I got green salts quite late, that's why it's not that high

[forest portal]

,just dont f rephinery like l did

[sleek stone]

same like me

[forest portal]

how badly u fd it up?

[sleek stone]

i f up my refinery too

[true hamlet]

You have more bubbles unlocked than me.. something else is wrong haha

[sleek stone]

the blue one already at lv 4

while red are at 5 now 6

[atomic fable]

I have rank 8, 4 and 2 for the 1st 3

I earlier messed up and caused a 7, 4, 3 (Which made me gain no excess red)

[true hamlet]

Send IE/IT

[forest portal]

by orage is 12 but blue is 10 l just fixed my red salts to cope with my orage only

[sleek stone]

damn thats messy

[atomic fable]

https://idleontoolbox.com/?profile=BakedCupcake

[forest portal]

do your clikers and post office more

[true hamlet]

Pushing with dk?

[atomic fable]

Yes, i'm pushing with dk

[sleek stone]

what clickers

[atomic fable]

He's talking about owl and roo

[sleek stone]

roo?

[forest portal]

roo and owl

[sleek stone]

ohh

[forest portal]

the acc they give is good

[sleek stone]

yeah mine on roo are messed up aswell

[night sable]

my refine is fucked up but fucked up weird

[true hamlet]

Do roo, you're in the terriotory where it's still easy. Roo gives accuracy damage and afk gains I think?

[night sable]

i have rank 5 2 1

[forest portal]

unlock all the stamps u can get

[night sable]

which is low but not screwing me

[atomic fable]

Speaking of roo, Mega fish 9!

I know I could've got it sooner

[forest portal]

buy your bribes

[robust marsh]

Me destroying w1 with a ton of buffs on my new character

[atomic fable]

Oh, the bribes

I kinda have a coins problem

[forest portal]

get all bubbles up higher espacally shaq and fmg as well as first 2 bubbles of each caulldrent

[true hamlet]

305 multi only?

[night sable]

try getting artifacts

i think those help coins

[atomic fable]

Soon I'd lose the greenstack on logs if I upgrade the 1st orange bubble

[robust marsh]

He is lvl 10

[atomic fable]

as it's close to it

[sleek stone]

artifacts at w5 is it?

[night sable]

thats not the point

[forest portal]

equip all with royal sampler for 90% sample size

[night sable]

just hit w5

[true hamlet]

I thought I had like 2.5k multi on my new guy

[sleek stone]

yeah

[robust marsh]

I am weak I can't do that

[forest portal]

u dont really need green stack right now

[atomic fable]

Do I not bother with the oak log greenstack and upgrade orange bubble 1 or let the green stack happen

[sleek stone]

https://idleontoolbox.com/?profile=Demostreus
check mine if there is something that need to up?

[night sable]

upgrade your bubbles

[forest portal]

upgarde salt lick more too

[night sable]

i doubt 1 greenstack is doing anything comparable to how much youd get from upgrading

[true hamlet]

gstack useless until unadulterated fury and equinox

[forest portal]

upgrade

espacally your greeen calldren

[atomic fable]

71 -> 84

Copper has the green stack

[forest portal]

for construcktion just get exp only f the rest

[atomic fable]

I can't free my es character without losing brightside

to farm that material

[forest portal]

stop unlocking atom

[sleek stone]

damn should i open my equinox area?

[forest portal]

go upgrade smt else

[atomic fable]

I nearly have nothing to upgrade really

[forest portal]

td?

chest thing and cost cruncher?

[atomic fable]

Oh, cruncher

[sleek stone]

yeah cost cruncher are game changing

[echo radish]

breathing

[forest portal]

u unlock atom in 89 days

[atomic fable]

Did all the upgrades I could

for shrine 6, I'm missing the catching on 2nd last w3 map

for the 8th tower, I'm missing purple salts

[forest portal]

auto mation arm takes 16 days so up to u if u want to wait cuz l think both is fine

[atomic fable]

I clearly need more build rate

[forest portal]

upgrade all meals espatally corn

that is why u only need exp for consturction

[atomic fable]

I do have all exp cogs btw

[forest portal]

nice

[atomic fable]

I know I have 13 nooby cogs to claim, but I have a reason - There's an achievement if you let unclaimed go high enough

[forest portal]

for territory just all baby boa

thats for early game then u can go for the load out in the pin section later on

try to get the rephinery speed bounes in lab

[atomic fable]

I could get the refinery speed, but then I can't get brightside

[ripe orchid]

will I always have to have my guys afk in the lab to get the bonus?

[forest portal]

try to get all gold tools

[atomic fable]

I'm underleveled on some of the skills for gold tools

[forest portal]

yes unless if u are link to articus

candy

[ripe orchid]

where do I get that?

[forest portal]

div in w5

[ripe orchid]

aw):

[forest portal]

then u choose both is verygood

[atomic fable]

Problem is I can't reach both at the same time right now

[sleek stone]

refinery but slow on pushin

its your choice tho

if 1k afk gain then its okay too

[forest portal]

get rex ring for every one and start farming chizore blankets

[atomic fable]

Do I just halt the push for now and catch everyone up?

[forest portal]

yup

[sleek stone]

if have serated then go for serated

[vague pendant]

What's droprate on chizoar blanket

[sleek stone]

yeah maybe you lack on stats and gear

serated give 3 slot on stone

[forest portal]

get all upgardable skulls only

[sleek stone]

you could get 34 str from it

[forest portal]

and put skill stones on the tools

[sleek stone]

either str or wis for acc

[forest portal]

if havent it gives lots of damge

[sleek stone]

str if you have 30k acc

[atomic fable]

so my situation looks kinda bad?

[sleek stone]

nah

thats fine tho

[atomic fable]

So probably just forgot some things?

[ripe orchid]

oh its mr cheese again

[sleek stone]

yeah

[ripe orchid]

(I found sigils

[sleek stone]

noooo

[forest portal]

dont touch sigils

[sleek stone]

dont do it

thats mess up

i touch it and regret it now

[vague pendant]

Should I be doing tower Def on every char

[forest portal]

not that way

[forest portal]

me 2

[sleek stone]

yes

[forest portal]

why u and me srewing up every thing

[sleek stone]

just take the exp thing

[sleek stone]

dunno

now im tryin to fix mine that i messed up 2 years ago

[atomic fable]

Okay, so I have some cleanup to do with alchemy and that?

[sleek stone]

lookin at other skill lvl im pretty sure it messed up

[atomic fable]

Oh, for my case?

[forest portal]

do your daly boss too

[sleek stone]

nah

[forest portal]

thats prob all

[atomic fable]

Oh, the key daily bosses?

[sleek stone]

yes

[forest portal]

yea

they give good candy

[atomic fable]

There's a task for the w1 boss that requires nightmare

[sleek stone]

just do your chaotic one till 2 star

or if you have 2 star just go yolo nightmare

[forest portal]

wait mini boss not daily boss my bad

[sleek stone]

oh yeah slush and shroom

[forest portal]

l think its every 7 days

[atomic fable]

Doot I might skip since there's a weapon that requires 10 of the keys

that can be handy for the maestro

[ripe orchid]

I am not excited to get my 8th char up on par with my others/:

[sleek stone]

nah you should do dood

youll get it later

[forest portal]

buy bob jpe pickells to every day

[sleek stone]

the candy on dood gonna boost your pushin

[atomic fable]

ended up finding out why the hard way

[ripe orchid]

(what is dood)

[sleek stone]

mini boss

[ripe orchid]

w2?

[sleek stone]

yes

[ripe orchid]

ooh that guy

I thought it was doot

[sleek stone]

the mummy one

[forest portal]

and the hour glass guy too

[sleek stone]

yeah its doot

[ripe orchid]

oh biggie hours?

[sleek stone]

easy to farm wooden circular with es

[sleek stone]

yes

[atomic fable]

The issue with the eyes is actually the woodular circles

[sleek stone]

nope

[ripe orchid]

I think I have like 100

[forest portal]

yea can be hard at this stage

[sleek stone]

maybe if you reach x3 drop rate

[forest portal]

more bro

[atomic fable]

I can only reach ~x2, not near x3

[ripe orchid]

drop rate or rarity?

[sleek stone]

x3 for me is enough

[forest portal]

drop rate l think

[sleek stone]

but yeah more but i didnt have anything to up it

[sleek stone]

drop rate

[ripe orchid]

i have 4.9x rarity where do I see rate?

[sleek stone]

char stats

on bottom

[ripe orchid]

wait what the hell how did my guy get too 153

I swear he was like 120 3 days ago

[sleek stone]

who?

[forest portal]

lol

[atomic fable]

idk if getting my 8th character will make things easier

[low valley]

!packs

!bundles

!help

[candid scarab]

🚫 cannon5920, that command is disabled in this channel.

[sleek stone]

DK?

[low valley]

!mining

[ripe orchid]

man I NEED THE SLIME COMPAINIONNNNN I HAVE ALL OF THEM BUT HIMMM

[sleek stone]

[astral lava]

#bot-commands

[low valley]

foud it

[forest portal]

fuck l reroll my good obals

[ripe orchid]

man I wanna trade for a slime fr

[sleek stone]

come trade with doot

[white path]

Doubt trading is ever getting added

[sleek stone]

i have slime

[ripe orchid]

why tf do they have untradable and tradable then):

[sleek stone]

will be so much microtranscation

[forest portal]

l just need the last 3

[ripe orchid]

i have legit gotten doot 3 TIMES and slime not once

[forest portal]

tf give me pls

[ripe orchid]

they untradable

[forest portal]

but t3 treat cant unlock slimes

[ripe orchid]

wait

wait wait wait im at t4

[forest portal]

oh wait t4

[ripe orchid]

oh no):

[forest portal]

lol

[white path]

Trading was probably a planned update but the companions update got so much backlash I dont think Lava wants to touch it anymore

[ripe orchid]

time to open more

please slime):

i got sandy pot so its doable

do-able? idk

NOOO I CANT GET SLIME NO MORE

i mean its not that bad of a loss

[forest portal]

true

[atomic fable]

Alright, should I focus on alchemy bubbles until they hit about 100k material cost?

(except salts, souls and hard to obtain)

[true hamlet]

Those you deem easy

And useful

[cedar edge]

Anyone's Tome Score have an issue recently? My score should be around 26,000 and it's been showing a really low/incorrect score for a while now (maybe since last update?). Couldn't find any other posts about it.

[dusty apex]

cloud save and recheck

its a bug but you will be ok

[indigo stratus]

[echo radish]

zoro do u have 0.1%

[dusty apex]

i have 100% because i get out what i put in

[echo radish]

hmm i just hear that u suck thats what i hear

[cedar edge]

Weird. I swear I tried multiple cloudsaves and it didn't fix it, but just did it and it worked. Thanks

[tepid tiger]

Best class vs bosses?
Best class for dungeon?

[sleek stone]

Vman
DK or BB

[tepid tiger]

Please full names i play 3 weeks ;x

[indigo stratus]

Divine knight or blood barbarian

And vman is voidbringer

[exotic swallow]

previous discord server pfp was better

[indigo stratus]

I've been playing a week now and am barely half way through w4 it's over

i gotta get good

[echo radish]

No purple wasn't as pretty

[exotic swallow]

Purple is pretty

[echo radish]

It wasn't very soothing to the eyes

[exotic swallow]

eh, dislike red more on this one

[echo radish]

It's more iconic too

[sleek pollen]

⚠️

[exotic swallow]

we are going to get warned by zoro like that

[echo radish]

It's idleon talk

[robust marsh]

I got a question if I have nobisect linked in divinity plus in hole with 2x kill node in lab Will i get 6x kiils?

[sleek pollen]

x4

[exotic swallow]

"if you do not have any w3-w4 questions, move to idleon-gen-chat"

[sleek pollen]

2 * 2 = 4

where does that x6 come from

[echo radish]

Printing

[robust marsh]

I am linking nobisect in hole and divinity if I get 6x kiils

[sleek pollen]

nobi is x2 and killer brightside is x2, should give x4

[robust marsh]

Hey you don't understand I am asking if I get buff from nobisect at divinity and hole at the same time?

[astral lava]

Still counts as 1 nobi, it's still 4

[sleek pollen]

no

[robust marsh]

Hmmm

[astral lava]

Mmmh

[exotic swallow]

u cant stack 1 same god through hole and divinity link

[sleek pollen]

if linked in pocket div no use in main link

also not very w3w4 talk of us guys

[robust marsh]

Hmmm

[astral lava]

I just came~

[tepid tiger]

I have been upgraded anvil tab to III and notning happend 😦
smithing lvl up materials gone but tab still lvl II

[sleek pollen]

wym you upgraded it

[astral lava]

Ig he crafted anvil tab III

[robust marsh]

I have a another question why can't I get a good wave in frostbite something td

[astral lava]

Did u hold the item?

[robust marsh]

I can beat most of the waves but they auto skip too fast

[tepid tiger]

i got still " unlock anvil tab 3 first on green man

[astral lava]

Then have better towers

[sleek pollen]

better tower level, better setup

[astral lava]

And meal if u have it

[robust marsh]

Ye you got a point I have lvl 3 of all so ye

How can I maximize starting td points

[astral lava]

!insight

[candid scarab]

https://idleoninsight.com/ - 3rd party site made by Corbeno

[sleek pollen]

this what I used for froslight at the time, I think I had a slighlty lower boulder level

[astral lava]

Type "start" @robust marsh

[robust marsh]

Lvl30 you joking with

[robust marsh]

?

[sleek pollen]

no?

click on the link then in the search bar 'start'

[astral lava]

Type start in the website

[tepid tiger]

I'm sorry i got this item in my backpack, i thinked it was just updated itself.....

[robust marsh]

Ok

[astral lava]

Ye, u have to hold it urself

[sleek pollen]

lvl 30 is what the dude in the vid had but you can probably do it at a lower lvl like I did

also you're in w5 so you should've at least have boulder 20+

[robust marsh]

Can I at lvl5

[molten vapor]

i just find i can stack my salts to lvl up their production 🤡

[sleek pollen]

https://tenor.com/view/fade-away-oooooooooooo-aga-emoji-crumble-gif-20008708

[covert fractal]

what can happen at lv 30?

[sleek pollen]

level up these damn tower

[sleek pollen]

nothing more lvl more dmg

[astral lava]

World progression doesn't mean the player have good towers

[covert fractal]

oh tower levels

[robust marsh]

Ye I put them on construction

[sleek pollen]

shh

[covert fractal]

all depends on how the player acts really

[robust marsh]

Ye I am the rusher class

When I reached w4 I wasn't even doing alchemy

[covert fractal]

I am the "WAT DOES DIS DO?" type of player. going in blind despite asking for help

[astral lava]

It's alr

[sleek pollen]

I hope you started doing it by now then

[robust marsh]

Ye I started it

[covert fractal]

how good is the ancient echoes pack?

[sleek pollen]

we were at some point and we're here to help in case you wanna ask some questions

[robust marsh]

But I am lacking in water droplets

[covert fractal]

huh?

[covert fractal]

ugh the water grind

[sleek pollen]

forgot some words lmao

[astral lava]

2nd best package for drop rate

[covert fractal]

what's a good choppin level for w4?

[astral lava]

Currently

[robust marsh]

What am I supposed to do?

[sleek pollen]

tbh 15 for non-specialized and 30 for specialized class should be fine for a start

[astral lava]

Only 6?

[covert fractal]

can barely get halfway to 100% on level 44 for tundra logs

[robust marsh]

Idk what this is

[astral lava]

Don't type "Start "

[astral lava]

No space

[astral lava]

Ye, game have different saying every update

Yk what?

?wiki Worship

[cursive walrus]

https://idleon.wiki/wiki/Worship

[sleek pollen]

ye typing worship, tower defense, td, points or starting might give some different or new things

[robust marsh]

Still Idk what this is

[astral lava]

Nvm this and open that link

[robust marsh]

Ok

[astral lava]

Scroll down and read last section

Ye, u have to read

[sleek pollen]

this is some (maybe not all) the sources of starting td points

[sleek pollen]

https://tenor.com/view/fade-away-oooooooooooo-aga-emoji-crumble-gif-20008708

[astral lava]

Some cuz of different naming

[sleek pollen]

ye

[robust marsh]

O...k

[echo radish]

Cannoli not being there makes it worthless fr fr

[sleek pollen]

yeah I search for starting points only, not the % points earned during td

[covert fractal]

what should I be spending my basic talent points on? I seem to have too many

[midnight raven]

What's the best combat pet set up if you only have 4 slots?

[sleek pollen]

!guide pet tab has recommended team

[candid scarab]

Mid-Late Game guide for World 3 / 4 / 5:
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/e/2PACX-1vSCepYAs6sNDP4iq6MJNAG1pvFXzfC_3IQ7ttt5vfEEKAgQhIk4cQqnLRyeH6UyqDSuP4R-6WQeDmmP/pubhtml
Video Guides (by GriffyBit):
https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLVGSDQs1AcvjYTAPtYV6ofbeeEfHpEcb4

[midnight raven]

Ty

[sleek pollen]

axe, sword, main stat, secondary stats, hp/mana if warrior/mage (or if need those) 12th and 13th talent (changes depending on the class) and afk gain ofc

[sleek stone]

You guys do divinity on 25%?

[atomic fable]

Is this good to do early on? (I've went and used my checkouts on skills that had a level 100 max)

[sleek stone]

Yes

[sleek pollen]

better use book on statue, boomerang and orb

[atomic fable]

I mainly targetted talents with a level 100 max to increase them by any amount

I can get 1 more in 1 hour

[covert fractal]

what does the party starter do?

[sleek pollen]

buff your towers

attack speed or dmg

[atomic fable]

Once you get tier 5 treat, doot becomes guaranteed?

[sleek pollen]

still need to pay green gem to summon him at the pity

[covert fractal]

at what construction level do towers other than boulder and fireball become useful

[zenith hare]

well fireball isn't useful so...

[covert fractal]

found it very useful for my runs

[zenith hare]

you just spam boulders, parties, and thunders. sprinkle in some frozones

[sleek pollen]

boulder better until 35ish when you'll start leveling poison

[zenith hare]

then later on when you get kraken, spam kraken

[exotic swallow]

quacken

[covert fractal]

party is my strongest so

[sleek pollen]

your highest level should be boulder, focus on it

[zenith hare]

for now

[ebon stratus]

anyone knows why my survivability is 100% then i log out, then turns to 88% when i login to check again? no food

[sleek pollen]

food get consumed while afk

[ebon stratus]

no food in slots

[sleek pollen]

wait you don't have food before login out

[zenith hare]

your buff runs out maybe, say if ur on dk, the defence buff runs out while afk

that or all buffs didn't load in when you first logged on and you change rooms and you get back 100% surv

[ebon stratus]

cuz idk if it affects my gains

[zenith hare]

it shouldnt

also yeah, reason why is the latter of what I said I think

[ebon stratus]

aight ty

[zenith hare]

as long as you make sure you log off with it saying 100% surv, you'll be fine

[exotic swallow]

trust me bro

[covert fractal]

ok. gotta hit all worship points

I forget. does worship have a 3d printing option?

[sleek pollen]

no

[covert fractal]

ok

[sleek pollen]

only skilling resources and main mob drop

[west ingot]

i whaled for 2x damage

[covert fractal]

well. with things overhauled. now I need toi get the ice hammer and hunt down that class guy

[mystic bay]

talent book priorities?

as a wizard

[shy ruin]

Suggma

[sleek stone]

Deathbloom pendant?

[atomic fable]

Is gems worth buying in world 4 or later?

[sleek stone]

Up to you if you want faster progress

[atomic fable]

Alright

Oh, there's a pack on sale right now

[west ingot]

ancient echoes robe

[atomic fable]

I'm not sure if it's worth it tbh

[mystic bay]

Like, from the library

[atomic fable]

It's tricky because up until now, I've stayed f2p except autoloot

[mystic bay]

anyone know?

[sleek stone]

Ahh i though the pendant

Gives also 1.3x dmg

[atomic fable]

The echoes robe is currently the pack on sale

[sleek stone]

Yeah

[atomic fable]

Not sure if it's worth it

for where I'm at in the game at least

since like, yes, the damage increase is helpful, but that'd only let me get to w5 I think from w4

[north root]

should i refine this?

frog horn might be a problem

[latent bramble]

you'll want at least some for buildings

[north root]

i guess then struggle will be real

[latent bramble]

You don't need that much to unlock them

[north root]

no the frog horn struggle

[atomic fable]

Is the bundle potentially worth it?

for someone in w4

[latent bramble]

I wonder if it unlocks the ribbon menu if you don't have DB yet

def worth for the daily ribbons alone

[atomic fable]

Right now, it's the... let me reload the game

Right now it's the cobalt robe, the bonuses are 30% afk gains and 1.5x villager xp

[west ingot]

nah the overall 2x damage from the pack peaked my interest

[atomic fable]

I see, I'm not sure if this is worth it for w4

[latent bramble]

that ones probably worth it for the 30% afk gains alone

[atomic fable]

true, but this would slowly turn me into a partial p2w player lol

[latent bramble]

but i also have disposable income

not whale income, but all the bundles you're basically just paying for gems and everything else is free

[atomic fable]

I see

[exotic swallow]

its not free if it costs money

[latent bramble]

it's free if your goal was just buying gems for $20

[atomic fable]

true since gems are part of the bundle

It actually gives 500 more than mountain of gems for the same price, odd

[exotic swallow]

thats how lava gets u to buy it

[latent bramble]

every bundle he's come out with gives 200+ gems/$ (same ratio as the $20USD gem purchase) except for auto-loot, but that's still at 180/$

ah, wait. i lied. the first pet bundle was less because there were more green gems

[pallid kernel]

Just bought a lamp for 500,000! It comes inside of a yacht, but the yacht is free since it comes with the lamp

[latent bramble]

yeah man, i was in the market for a 500k lamp already, so this is perfect

[atomic fable]

Anyway

[pallid kernel]

Anyways what

[atomic fable]

I'm trying to think how useful the pack is for w4

[pallid kernel]

Which one

[atomic fable]

The ancient echoes one

[latent bramble]

you get a damage multi for pushing and 30% afk for all your lab folks (or candying)

and a bunch of gems

[west ingot]

Guys I whaled again

I bought sacred methods immediately after

[pallid kernel]

Sacred method goes hard

[atomic fable]

Okay, I do have some money I can use, but is it worth it 🤔

[pallid kernel]

Yeah it’s one of the best bundles

[west ingot]

I say go for it

[atomic fable]

Once I finish w6, I could make an alt that sticks to true f2p, right?

[west ingot]

I don't have a job yet since I'm to young but I scrape money together

[mossy tapir]

why do my shields disapear in pet battle all of the sudden? i am using "The Nuke"- Line Up and it should be full auto, but this always makes me lose each battle

[west ingot]

That just seems like suffering

[atomic fable]

true due to the autoloot situation

[pallid kernel]

Why would you want to

[atomic fable]

fair point, autoloot is a near must later game

Okay, if I get the bundle, what would be good uses for the gems?

[pallid kernel]

Just depends on progression and what you’ve already bought. AR has a gemshop tier list

[atomic fable]

Alright

Honestly, It probably would become useful late game, right?

Okay, if it's 1 of the best bundles in the game, it's worth buying in w4, right?

[exotic swallow]

stepping on the darkside

becoming a

[atomic fable]

darkside?

[exotic swallow]

🎣 LAVAS ROD

[atomic fable]

I get what you mean, a whale lol

Oh, I see

[pallid kernel]

Whaling is the way of kings

[atomic fable]

Would I end up becoming a whale if I buy bundles from time to time or not really?

[exotic swallow]

u would

[atomic fable]

I see...

[latent bramble]

dolphin

[atomic fable]

okay, so that would cause me to fall to p2w, which wouldn't be a good idea for me?

[exotic swallow]

lava will hold you by your neck

[pallid kernel]

Yeah lava hates it when people give him money

[atomic fable]

Oh?

[white lintel]

You can buy a bundle without being a whale or a dolphin

[pallid kernel]

Lava is a monk trying to shed his mortal coils, and money interferes with that pursuit

[white lintel]

If you buy many then you’re a dolphin, if you buy gems regularly you’re a whale

[pallid kernel]

I don’t know what qualifies as a whale or dolphin. I just buy what sounds good

[white lintel]

I’ve spend like 150$ on bundles

Someone told me a was a dolphin bc of that

[pallid kernel]

I think I’ve bought every bundle

[white lintel]

Even the dungeon bundle?

[atomic fable]

Okay, so I can buy the bundle without being p2w?

[white lintel]

Which one?

[atomic fable]

The one rn is ancient echoes

[pallid kernel]

Hmmmm maybe not that one

Can’t remember

[pallid kernel]

You won’t be p2w, but who cares even if you are

[atomic fable]

Alright, Would it help me in my position in w4?

[white lintel]

Imo I would pick a different one if you were only gonna get one, the dmg is nice but it falls off

[white lintel]

It’d be great for pushing w4

[pallid kernel]

DR

[atomic fable]

It also gives dr

[pallid kernel]

And afk gains

[white lintel]

Isn’t it like .6 DR?

I wouldn’t spend 20$ on that

[atomic fable]

It's +60% dr

[white lintel]

Well

I did, but that’s besides the point

It’s a good pick if you wanna rush

If you’re not gonna buy many or any other bundles then there’s some better options

[atomic fable]

What better ones are there?

that are accessible to me

[pallid kernel]

Honestly I don’t really mind spending money on idleon. 60$ games last me for a maximum of a month, and I’ve been playing idleon for 7 months already

Sacred method pack

Island explorer

Eh that’s it

Although that’s my opinion

Honestly .6 dr and 30% afk gain really good, and 2x dmg and 1.5 villager exp are also nice

[lilac wharf]

How do I boost my elemental sources damage / accuracy

[atomic fable]

So, only those 2 atm?

[lilac wharf]

Yes

That's not what you meant

[pallid kernel]

Yep

[exotic swallow]

🎣

[pallid kernel]

Yep

[atomic fable]

Okay, so right now it's probably worth it until w5 or w6?

[pallid kernel]

If it requires this much consideration, it’s probably best not to buy it

[atomic fable]

Alright, there probably will be better ones in the future?

[hoary cairn]

watch griffys video about the packs

[exotic swallow]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/990717651342999623/1166012678259625994/togif-2.gif

[hoary cairn]

or check the wiki, and decied u want to wait for any other pack or no

[atomic fable]

Oh, it's cycle based?

[hoary cairn]

yes

[atomic fable]

Ooh, that makes more sense

[hoary cairn]

https://idleon.wiki/wiki/Gem_Shop

here u can check the packs

[white lintel]

Don’t watch griffy if you’re not shaking

Whaling*

[atomic fable]

Oh

Ooh, it's part of rotating

[shy ruin]

how does my sb have higher trapping level than bm

that's crazy

[atomic fable]

Out of the rotating packs, sacred methods pack might be 1 of the best ones

for me in world 4

[north root]

dude u are thinking too much

just buy it

[atomic fable]

Okay, sorry

[north root]

why are u so confused xD

wait bro dont force urself tbh if u are this confused i dont think u should buy it

[exotic swallow]

is this lavas alt

[sleek stone]

Hello lava

[west ingot]

I'm a proud whale

[sleek stone]

Now this this is whaller

[west ingot]

Bought 2 packs within the same hour

[sleek stone]

Damn

[west ingot]

2 crazy packs too

[sleek stone]

What bundles tho im curios

Not the new one the other one

[west ingot]

Sacred methods and ancient echoes

[sleek stone]

Damn

[exotic swallow]

now buy all bundles like I did

[north root]

nah bro this dude really wats to buy it, and is so afraid

[west ingot]

I could if I wanted to

[north root]

he asked the same question 10 times xD is this good for w4

[sleek stone]

[west ingot]

Any pack is good for any world no?

[north root]

i was low on storage and i bought the 5dollar storage pack and i think it was worth it actually very worth it

[west ingot]

Also unlocked 2nd dk a little ago, I'm moving up

[north root]

i got those 1750 gems

[sleek stone]

Yeah

If gems is acquired then yes every world boost

[north root]

yup i still have 1150 gems on me and i am confused should hold on them or just spend them

[west ingot]

I have 6500 should I just start buying all the world boosts?

[exotic swallow]

I spent mine on pristines

[north root]

i might also soon buy the auto loot as i want active soon

[sleek stone]

Spend on them pendant

Double your dmg

[north root]

pendant?

[sleek stone]

Yea

[north root]

i dont have the cosmetic tab

[west ingot]

Huh?

[north root]

i think it unlocks in w4 right?

[sleek stone]

Not cosmetic

Its gear

[west ingot]

It's a pendant the slot under weapon

[north root]

yeah that i got but where is it wait

[sleek stone]

That boost 1.3x multiplier dmg

[north root]

ohh this one

[sleek stone]

Yess

[west ingot]

Do I buy both?

[exotic swallow]

get the hood as well

u dont need 2 pendants

[sleek stone]

Hood also

[west ingot]

Aight

[sleek stone]

Yeah buy 1 only

[west ingot]

Only 1 pendant?

[exotic swallow]

yes

[sleek stone]

Yes

[north root]

u said doubl damage but it says 1.3x only

[sleek stone]

Is too much for inventory

[exotic swallow]

yap

[sleek stone]

Not double tho

But it boost that much

[west ingot]

.

[north root]

ohh

[exotic swallow]

its good enough until kruk scarf

[sleek stone]

You can read it tho

Damn read a rare skill now

[exotic swallow]

always been

[north root]

ahh i am so dicy are u sure i should go for it

deathbringer i might pass

[west ingot]

the gear section looks so satisfying

[sleek stone]

Damn

[exotic swallow]

u need the hood bc who knows when lava will put it on sale

[sleek stone]

Boosted the dmg to 4m

[pseudo moss]

Where is the last critter..blobfish i guess...i completed the critter npc quest upto duck critter...can anyone help?🥺

[west ingot]

comparison

[west ingot]

cant you use trapper drone?

[exotic swallow]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1291141058650046547/1318680483273637959/SILENCE.gif

[sleek stone]

Yeah that much of dmg

[pseudo moss]

It is not showing on trapper drone....it is showing upto duck critter..last is locked behind something i guess

[sleek stone]

Its on w3 at the unopened map

[north root]

i wasted all my fruit flies for that juicy fmj but got like 15+ defence wtf

[west ingot]

but why shouldnt i buy both pendants though?

[sleek stone]

If you havent open the portal on mustache guy

[north root]

now i cant unlock the tab 3

[sleek stone]

Wasted your inventory for 2 tho

[latent bramble]

there are better respawn options for pendants and damage becomes a non-issue

[sleek stone]

You could get other gear

[exotic swallow]

because there will be better gear to replace it.

3rd tier of scarf

[west ingot]

we chiling with this kph in w5?

[exotic swallow]

we yapping with this kph

[rustic elbow]

how do i know if no bubble left behind worked? i had it lit up in lab when the shops reset while i was afk, but i still have some bubbles lvl 1

[sleek stone]

When its on reset daily

So if you on it now you wouldnt get it, you have to wait till daily reset

[rustic elbow]

how do i know when the daily reset is

[atomic fable]

no bubble left behind doesn't work on lvl 1 bubbles If I remember right

[sleek stone]

I was thingking gonna use es now on w5

Even if its set back my pushin stage

[latent bramble]

NBLB will work on bubbles that are level 2-1499

[hoary cairn]

if i use trapper drone, i have to equip only 1 of my chars with higher trap to more slots?

[sleek stone]

Yea i think

Test it

[hoary cairn]

sadly not working

[sleek stone]

Then go for what you need then

Some are exp and some are shiny critters

[hoary cairn]

im gona farm some crabs for the next type of traps

[west ingot]

close to starting mman

[sleek stone]

Gogogo

Open it up

[sleek stone]

Have you unlocked god tho?

[west ingot]

divines?

[sleek stone]

Yes

[exotic swallow]

Unlock the hole....

[sleek stone]

Yeah

That too

[west ingot]

I have unlocked the hole ive gotten to bravery but i havent had any luck on gods yet

[sleek stone]

yeah tho its hard to open it

get the 50% or 100% tho

[dawn marten]

does this apply at all times or does it still require characters on their left in the lab? just trying to work out where they need to go post-doot/vm

[rustic elbow]

AFK survivability is pretty confusing. I can easily sustain with my ES with haemoglobin, but it says only 15% survivability lol

[sleek stone]

yes

you kill more on es and more hp

i have 0% but always on full hp except the crystal came

[west ingot]

everyone is on genies for xp

[sleek stone]

the high lvl one?

[west ingot]

huh

[sleek stone]

i mean the 150+

[west ingot]

no hes pushing through w5

[sleek stone]

or genies just give so much

damn

[west ingot]

es is on divinity and everyone else is on genies because thats their farthest point in w4 lol

they are all sub 100 lmaoo

[sleek stone]

gonna make my boi mman go there also

for some exp

[west ingot]

speaking of mman while everyone levels up i should probably look on how to even get journeyman

[sleek stone]

that would take time tho

unless you have so much candies

[west ingot]

they will all get about a level and a half an hour per

wont take long

[sleek stone]

yeah

[north root]

wasted so much candy and time to unlock anvil tab 3 just to realize i am so far away from it

[sleek stone]

yeah no rush tho

[north root]

what would be the easiest place for my barb to get his zow?

i have 2.4 kph on gmush

[robust marsh]

W1

[robust marsh]

Hmmm

[north root]

its too low right i should wait for now maybe?

[robust marsh]

You should wait for 2x kill node in lab or try improve your damage

[north root]

i am in w3 right now mere bhai xD

[robust marsh]

Use cards

[robust marsh]

Indian?

[north root]

yeah

[robust marsh]

To bhai cards try kar

[north root]

lets just talk in eglish we will get banned otherwise xD

[robust marsh]

Ok

[north root]

will try any good cards for multi kill?

[robust marsh]

You should use dmg cards and afk gain cards

[north root]

yup using them

[robust marsh]

How far have you been in w3

Like early or late

[shadow lark]

its not worth getting zow in w3

[north root]

i am cyrosnakes but as people said i am shit to be so far ahead i am just trying to reach w4

]

[robust marsh]

Hmmm you should do alchemy before doing zow at this point when you reach w4 try to do zow them

[north root]

yup i am almost at w4

2 more days at max

[robust marsh]

Get elite class and do some lab progress

[robust marsh]

Btw this stats are kinda low for w4 right now so try to get dementia armour with w4 stones

[north root]

yup i just want to reach w4 for the skills and to make my life easier thats all as i reach w4 my main priority will be the journey man grind

[robust marsh]

Hmmm good 👍 after you reach w4 I prefer you do skilling for a bit

[north root]

15 more levels

[robust marsh]

how many characters you have?

[north root]

yup that will be my main priority

6 going to unlock 7

[robust marsh]

Wait I didn't se it's 6

[worn tulip]

why is this still bad

[north root]

please dont kill me but i tried my best

[worn tulip]

like no offense but the damage

[worn tulip]

no im not mad just surprised

[north root]

like aaaaaaa

[robust marsh]

Can you show me your telent tab

[worn tulip]

dw we forced him to fix that

[north root]

i knew that was coming

[robust marsh]

Hmmm

[worn tulip]

see like nothing too bad

[robust marsh]

Ye me too

[north root]

i changed a lot here and there

[worn tulip]

btw

what about the other two

[north root]

my stamps or also decent

[worn tulip]

oh wait i just got ana wesome idea man

do you have any dungeon creds

[robust marsh]

I see a small problem

[worn tulip]

yeah this is basically fine

maybe the zow point is pointless but that doesnt really matter

[north root]

see i did as u told me xD i had to have some accuracy or i push again with my mage who has 80k damage(shaman/wizard) any

[worn tulip]

damn

[north root]

with shrines and no pain active

[worn tulip]

hey fraggy do you have dungeonic damage

[robust marsh]

Why didn't you invest those 4 points

[north root]

whats that

[north root]

wait whats that

[robust marsh]

This

[north root]

ohh yeah i have that

[worn tulip]

its a super op special talent from dungeons

(imo)

[north root]

oh i just came in from afk

[robust marsh]

👍

[north root]

dont judge me here but i never reset my barbs start talent

[robust marsh]

40

[worn tulip]

weird

i swear it was stronger

[north root]

told u to not judge me as i never reset him i put 40 on this talent in w1 xD

[worn tulip]

maybe max out the attack effect on afk thing

[north root]

it is stronger

btw also if u wanna see my stamps

[worn tulip]

there is a slight difference

[north root]

and my bubbles are shit dont ask for that

[worn tulip]

:O

holy shit man

50????,

[north root]

thats bad?

[worn tulip]

bro ur making me look bad

[robust marsh]

What mine are worst

[north root]

is that a compliment if thats so thank you

[robust marsh]

I have less stamps but higher lvl then yours

[worn tulip]

i mean i have no spore caps

[north root]

all my stamps are higher than you

[worn tulip]

yeah i did a bit of stamp collecting once

[north root]

does ur barb have good damage?

[steel nymph]

my dudes

wuts the current max lv

[robust marsh]

He does 3 mill

[north root]

u are w5 tho right?

[worn tulip]

none

[robust marsh]

No max cap

[north root]

what?

[steel nymph]

ohh dang

[robust marsh]

But most ppl get around 700-800

[worn tulip]

btw fraggy how do you get so many spore caps for dat stamp

[north root]

ohh char level

[steel nymph]

oh wait mb i wasn't specific enough

[north root]

printing sir

[steel nymph]

i meant talent lv

[robust marsh]

Idk

[worn tulip]

wtf? show me ur spore cap sample size?

[robust marsh]

Ummm

[worn tulip]

oh ok yeah thats not that incredible

[robust marsh]

I thought he had a bit higher

[worn tulip]

but the copper is pretty low bud

[north root]

i just used all of them but i had like 30k to 40k

[worn tulip]

same, yeah

[robust marsh]

Get jurney man he will be batter at mob drop sampling

[north root]

wait let me

[worn tulip]

well time to uhhh

mman time1??1?1?1

[north root]

yeah i couldnt because of the carry cap

i had a lot of them to spare

[cedar urchin]

how to get that skill on the right of dungeonic damage

i just got into w3

[north root]

flurbo shop

do ur happy hours

[cedar urchin]

oo okie

[north root]

yup super excited for him

[dense egret]

💀

[dense egret]

It's torture

[north root]

oof

[north root]

this game is torture

so i dont really care and my barb is the biggest torture now tbh

[robust marsh]

You ppl think it's torture

[dense egret]

True but getting him is even worse somehow

[north root]

why

[robust marsh]

I am pushing for vman