midgame-chat-w3🧊w4🔮

[zenith hare]

dk, for extra construction progress

[robust marsh]

Ok👍

[atomic fable]

and I am back to square 1 with the party time quest 😭

[covert fractal]

how do you get genes other than the grey ones?

[wild dagger]

I'll see the rift
Im still on island 4
Thanks

[zenith hare]

afk in the world and press splice

[zenith hare]

rift slug isn't from rift

[covert fractal]

ok. figure out how splicing works

[zenith hare]

it's a companion, the second rarest one

[shut hull]

Gun

[wild dagger]

I have it

[zenith hare]

the first splicer obtained from w4 shop and afk in w1 and you'll understand

[zenith hare]

link to arctics, level up divinity, and level up ES a bit for its family bonus

[wild dagger]

But my max lvl is 155+25

[zenith hare]

book symbols from beyond, and ur base book level should be 155

[robust marsh]

May I ask if you get 2nd splicer in 4th anvil?

[zenith hare]

should be able to get ab 203 with all of that

assuming you didn't ignore divinity

due to arctics minor link bonus

(scales with divinity level)

like mines +16 talent levels for having him linked (given I'm late game but eh)

[latent bramble]

https://imgur.com/ZpNeaVB

[robust marsh]

Ummm?

[zenith hare]

yes you do

it's dropped by pincermen

(it is a w4 anvil recipe drop still)

[shut hull]

You can check wiki for these things yk

[zenith hare]

yes and the wiki isn't human

no talk would be needed in this channel as the wiki has basically everything

[atomic fable]

So, my maximum book level I can reach before World 5 is 160

[zenith hare]

yes

[robust marsh]

It's just finding those things and figureing it out is kind boring and plus you get some expert advice here

[zenith hare]

people normally have 155 though as the achievement takes a while

[atomic fable]

I only have 143

[wild dagger]

Thanks

[zenith hare]

I agree there

[atomic fable]

yeah, I'm just missing the salt lick bonus

[shut hull]

Get it then

[zenith hare]

if only it was as simple as that

[atomic fable]

I got it to 147, I can get +8 from salt lick, but not enough salts

[sleek stone]

any tips on maestro?

just got it

[zenith hare]

skill 24/7 basically

[sleek stone]

afking on skills?

[zenith hare]

get him to the highest w1-3 skills ASAP (minus construction and alchemy)

yeah

[sleek stone]

yeah minus cons and alche

[robust marsh]

It's about family

[atomic fable]

I need my maestro right now sadly for the brightside boost in the lab

[sleek stone]

yeah its family

[zenith hare]

he may be the weakest, but he is also the strongest :3

[sleek stone]

i got 8 so

other on summoning stone

[sleek stone]

for family is the cause

[covert fractal]

do enemies on the crystal island regenerate?

[zenith hare]

infinilyte is gonna be so broken

[sleek stone]

yeah

[shut hull]

Yeah they do each day

[atomic fable]

I've not done crystal island for a few days

[covert fractal]

as in hp regen. my damage isn't high enough to kill them quickly

[sleek stone]

btw what skill i should focus on maestro?

[shut hull]

Do you have Mocking Shout on

[zenith hare]

all of them

until mman is the highest in that skill

[sleek stone]

seems like skill exp not be good to up when i want to make it higher than other

[shut hull]

They don't heal unless you have Mocking Shout on

[covert fractal]

that makes sense

[zenith hare]

it's why you don't skill on anyone else

[sleek stone]

yeah

i just go for eff to print some

[zenith hare]

good

[sleek stone]

might take time to lvl this up since my highest are the mining one

[covert fractal]

tfw you finally notice a progression mechanic you forgot about

[indigo stratus]

How much of a difference do pickaxe tiers make? Is a dementia pick gonna go much faster

[atomic fable]

I still can't do 5 characters for brightside and my maestro is still not highest level in skills on mining, catching and chopping, what do I do?

[shut hull]

I mean it's not bad of a difference

[nimble vault]

How do I get this

[shut hull]

Brightside?

[shut hull]

Baba Yaga drop

[nimble vault]

Are you serious

[shut hull]

Yeah

[atomic fable]

It's a bonus in the lab

[shut hull]

Oh Killer's Brightside

[indigo stratus]

2.52e39 is a crazy number

[latent bramble]

it can drop from w1 colo version

[worn raptor]

get brightside and up skkills with maestro

[atomic fable]

I only have 7 characters

[shut hull]

Level chars in the lab that will make the character requirement of getting to brightside lower

[nimble vault]

It’s a little bit yeah….

[nimble vault]

Thank s

[worn raptor]

maestro always skilling, one pushing and other 5 lab?

[atomic fable]

I need 6 characters to reach brightside right now

[compact viper]

how to beat this one

[shut hull]

There's some setups in pins

[worn raptor]

when i reach w4, 1 push, maestro skilling and all others to lab

[compact viper]

i dont see any setups its all for early breeding

[atomic fable]

Should I wait until I can reach brightside with 5 characters without maestro then move him to skilling?

[indigo stratus]

but getting chars to elite boosts all their 3d print samples massively

i just made everyone elite then lab jailed them

[atomic fable]

or is it worth it to ignore that lab boost and move maestro to skilling

[sleek stone]

no need to rush just wait till they can reach brightside

[atomic fable]

Alright

[molten vapor]

if i already have 2 of each class and a journeyman, which class should be my next character?

[worn raptor]

mage-warrior-archer

[sleek stone]

DK

[worn raptor]

warrior-archer-mage ig

[sleek stone]

eh

[shut hull]

nameless king should've been a DK

[worn raptor]

lmao just 20 minuts with DB

[molten vapor]

so then which one? xd

[worn raptor]

im stupid

[honest reef]

245 more lab levels to go until lab 2100

[worn raptor]

i like more warrior first for squire/dk and be better in construction

[honest reef]

what god rank should i grind to

i jsut did a sacrifice for god rank 2

[molten vapor]

oh yeah i forgot about that

then i'm doing warrior first and i'll see which one i need more for the 2nd one

[worn raptor]

extra sb for forge bars, extra dk for construction and extra ES for... divinity? idk

[molten vapor]

ty

[cerulean meteor]

dont think extra SB is meta anymore

[worn raptor]

yeah ik, but wait for next master ig

[cerulean meteor]

yea. meta is currently 2 ES, 2 DK, 1 archer ( not yet having a subclass) and 1 of everything else ive heard

[molten vapor]

i already can use properly my shaman at this point for alchemy?

[cerulean meteor]

ES is also a great farming class

[worn raptor]

ik, but two

[indigo stratus]

how do people get to level 90 on a character before getting to elite am i stupid

[cerulean meteor]

that strong i think

especially for Limited quest mats

[calm vault]

well,

If their character is an alt (say, their 10th character) they can get it to level 90 or even 300 before choosing their elite class

[indigo stratus]

if it's your 8th char or higher you can just farm purple mush and get to lvl 100+ in like a day no

[calm vault]

yeah for sure

even an hour really, xp gains starts getting crazy and varies a lot for people once they get progressed

[atomic fable]

Should I maybe start considering going for my 8th character?

[hexed shoal]

Sup idleoneers

[sleek stone]

Dammit almost hit it

Any recommendation to increase it?

[hexed shoal]

Card sets

Cards

Alchemy

Better upgrade stones

Better tools

More copper ore

[sleek stone]

Yeah all done

Dunno what else to add

Already void imperium pik

[hexed shoal]

Higher lvl cards

[sleek stone]

Yeah eff are blue

[hexed shoal]

Lustre pik

[sleek stone]

Nah i dont have tab 4

[hexed shoal]

Bro i have dementia pik and im at 10m+ effe

Or less then 10m lemme check

[sleek stone]

my alchemy not that good tho

still on progressin

[sleek stone]

sheesh how

[hexed shoal]

I aint evem got mining gear on

Just helm

[sleek stone]

alchemy?

[hexed shoal]

Lvl up your cards morr

[forest portal]

hole?

[sleek stone]

if yes then mine are still on work to fixin it

[hexed shoal]

Focus on iron card

[sleek stone]

yeah its maxed

[hexed shoal]

Then focus on void card

[sleek stone]

what hole do?

[hexed shoal]

Gives mining effe%

[forest portal]

mining eff on bravery

[covert fractal]

when do sigils become valuable?

[hexed shoal]

When you finish alchemy

[sleek stone]

damn i still sit them all no progress on w5

[covert fractal]

you can't finish alchemy

[sleek stone]

just summon

[covert fractal]

I've got no progress on w4

[stable parcel]

They become available at w4 but you generally don't touch them until way later

[hexed shoal]

Unlock all bubbles then is 1% finished

[sleek stone]

maybe later if have enough candy

[forest portal]

only buble unlocks u can finnish

[sleek stone]

dont want my mining higher than mman

[covert fractal]

ugh I need so much water

[sleek stone]

its 20 lv apart from my mman

[forest portal]

lol

[hexed shoal]

If you mman mining is higher then you have more then 900k+ effe💀

[sleek stone]

oh yeah companion

[sleek stone]

yeah lol

its 57<32

[hexed shoal]

All companion effects count as active even if they arent following you

[forest portal]

what is the mining speed cap?

[sleek stone]

like damn that wold take time to get it high

[sleek stone]

ahh i though its not

[hexed shoal]

Companion is just for looks🗿

[sleek stone]

ill do just this then for reprinting

gonna manage my reprint on all char rn

[forest portal]

equip mining food too

[sleek stone]

yeah

its all

its just not reach that yet

[west ingot]

yay rift

[sleek stone]

trophy i still need some time for idle skiller

i just reach oblivion tho maybe it would take so much time

[hexed shoal]

I told em that alrdy

[sleek stone]

take 30 days and i havent farm single cake

[hexed shoal]

Nobody does tbh xD

[sleek stone]

nah dont have yet

maybe i could get yumyum desert if i have the pants recipe for dood

and snelbies necklace

other than that i have all

[west ingot]

well the first rift task i cant do lmaooo

[stable parcel]

is connection range the one that will also let you hit nodes from further?

[west ingot]

is there anything you can do inside of rift without doing the first task?

[sleek stone]

dunno still figure that out too

[sleek stone]

nah just the reward coold tho

[atomic fable]

Unlocked my 1st 2 world 4 vials, is that good progress?

[sleek stone]

if you want to clear the task i suggest not cause mine on 1.2m cant do anything on it

[forest portal]

nice but why is there a big gap

[west ingot]

i dont think damage is the issue for me there just isnt enough mobs

[atomic fable]

I'm missing some of the materials needed for some prior vials

[sleek stone]

thats why you need speed and dmg if dk

[sleek stone]

damn i should get that after chizoar helm and armor

[stable parcel]

no reason to even rush chizoar helm and armor tbh

[sleek stone]

is it?

[stable parcel]

Dementia will get you to w6

[sleek stone]

then i might go for connection range

[sudden wadi]

void at most

[sleek stone]

yeah void craftable

[stable parcel]

but ya the main pt is you dont need c hiz

[sleek stone]

once i got void maybe itll reach 2.1m

[zenith hare]

stats so low

wheres my yellow

[worn raptor]

db mode?

[zenith hare]

db mode

[wispy crescent]

Do crystal spawn rates vary per map because I’m fighting biggies and 2 just spawned which hasn’t happened before.

[worn raptor]

so not bad ig

[sudden wadi]

no

[wispy crescent]

Not really specced into crystal besides poop and demon

[atomic fable]

!crystal

[candid scarab]

The Crystal Monsters are rare mini-boss spawns that have a 1 in 2,000 chance to spawn whenever you actively kill an enemy. It has 15x HP, 30x Exp, 2.5x accuracy required, and does 2.5x more damage than monsters in your current area.

[wispy crescent]

That’s odd

[zenith hare]

!ive not been on db for like 4 days tbf

[atomic fable]

This is consistent for all maps that can spawn crystals

[zenith hare]

ive let him do wows

[zenith hare]

bonuses like this exist

forces the first few active kills a day to always spawn a crystal

[wispy crescent]

Don’t have that to my knowledge

[zenith hare]

you in w5?

[wispy crescent]

Just the star talent, stamp and a few cards

W4

[zenith hare]

there is a w4 merit for it too (dont ever take it till last)

[worn raptor]

and sigil

[wispy crescent]

I did snapshot though but would the rate double

[zenith hare]

cant snapshot it

[wispy crescent]

Nah I didn’t waste my points on that😂

[zenith hare]

snapshotting only works with hp and card drop chance. no other cards work

[wispy crescent]

Then I’m actually confused

[zenith hare]

some maps have more mobs to kill which means more chances at crystal mobs

[wispy crescent]

That checks. Do ES portal kills affect spawn rates?

Another just popped up

[zenith hare]

on kill of a portal mob, it forces 3 or so regular mobs to respawn

[west ingot]

not sure why your so confused about crystal mob, its all chance you could get 10 crystals back to back

[short kite]

Are the servers working? Can't connect on phone

[zenith hare]

thats just ur own internet normally. retry like 2/3 times

[wispy crescent]

True.

[zenith hare]

sometimes happens on logging in, but never just opening the app

and if it did, #newplayer-chat-w1🍀w2⏳ would be going crazy

[stable parcel]

lol why that channel?

[atomic fable]

Had a crystal spawn and just defeated it, is this a bad sign?

[stable parcel]

There's a reason why some people prefer afk pushing in the later worlds 🙂

Maybe if you keep up with alchemy it will be fine but w5 crystals still hit like trucks

[atomic fable]

I'm in w4

[stable parcel]

ik

so imagine how bad w5 crystals are lol

[cold wraith]

i remember i never had a problem till w5

even into w6, w5 crystals were still an issue

[atomic fable]

I have healed it fully now, surprised I never had to use my healing food

[cold wraith]

hemo is rly good for tha

[atomic fable]

I can see why now

For me, it heals 2.26% max HP

[cold wraith]

2.59% is lv 50

[atomic fable]

Okay, so I'm not far from max

[hexed shoal]

Did you guys know that spelling "fock off" backwards still says "fock off"

[stable parcel]

... nope.

[zealous flare]

whoa

[atomic fable]

I'll most likely reach level 50 max during late w4 or w5 since I don't have many tasks left that I can do

[molten vapor]

which resources i should have in my 3d printer?

[sleek stone]

the one you need

[cold wraith]

specialized skills and you decide which you need

[sudden wadi]

refinery

[zealous flare]

have you maxed out the dungeon counter for talent points? you can get up to an easy 50 there, i forgot about it myself lol

[atomic fable]

Not yet

[zealous flare]

it's one talent point per tab, star included

so if you need some quick and easy ones go there

[atomic fable]

What I meant was getting the maximum level to 50 (Currently 40)

[zealous flare]

oh unlocking the max level?

thru w1 tasks

right?

[atomic fable]

yeah

[zealous flare]

ohhh okay

sorry i assumed you were lacking talent points lol

[atomic fable]

The only easy one I can do right now might either be the nightmare or stamp levels

[zealous flare]

yeah pack mule and amarok ones were easier for me

[cold wraith]

good idea

[atomic fable]

I don't think I need to do all the tasks for all bonuses, right?

[molten vapor]

how i use the shrines? i thought it was a pasive but it seem is a kind of pillar

[sudden wadi]

star talent

[zealous flare]

no but helps with trophies

[cold wraith]

dont really needs trophies after a certain point

[zealous flare]

that is true

[cold wraith]

i have a couple hundred unlocks just sitting around

[zealous flare]

i am at that point i think

[atomic fable]

I might be okay ignoring 1 task per world?

if it's too hard for me rn

[zealous flare]

this

[atomic fable]

Alright, good to know

[zealous flare]

(i say this almost having maxed the w1,2 shops)

[atomic fable]

I need 18 more to max out w1 merit shop, should I do that before finishing w4?

[zealous flare]

nah

[cold wraith]

dw bout it

itll get done eventually and the bonuses are account changing

[night sable]

theres a fair few things you dont need from w1

youll get them when you get them

[zealous flare]

doesn't need to be a priority

[cold wraith]

ypr

[zealous flare]

yes it helps but it's not as big as you think

[night sable]

once you're debating what's left it means dont bother lmao

[cold wraith]

except hemo

[zealous flare]

defo

[atomic fable]

I'm missing these (Brackets is levels left): exp gain (2), hemo (2), keys (9) and talent chance (1), any of those useful for w4?

[zealous flare]

hemo and maybe keys

[night sable]

yeah

[zealous flare]

even then keys is a stretch

[night sable]

i'm only on hemo left for the things i care about maxing

[cold wraith]

cus shadow nerf

[night sable]

but i also maxed in a bad order

[cold wraith]

js hemo max, get one talent chance and then respawn/keys

[night sable]

exp converter is w2 no?

[zealous flare]

think so

[cold wraith]

its a world never dont use it

[night sable]

tbh my w2 maxing is much worse

[atomic fable]

So just hemo and maybe keys? is exp not worth it?

[cold wraith]

no

[night sable]

everything left is currently useless to me so i'm just hitting star talents

[cold wraith]

you only need it once

im pretty sure these are the two star talents that minibosses drop.. not 100% on the cash one tho

[zealous flare]

sounds about right

[indigo stratus]

is crystal countdown still bugged

[night sable]

cash is dropped by i wanna say slimes

[white path]

Cash drops from w1 mobs

It was added recently

[cold wraith]

whatever then the card one is def from minibosses tho

i remember cus i got an ungodly amount of them when doing doot

yea thats right the mana one

[sleek stone]

mana regen on w2

[atomic fable]

I checked world 2, I have the 1st 5 key upgrades maxed, anything else worth it for w4?

except afk gains, but don't have 10 characters yet

[night sable]

you have the same amount i do

minus a few talent books i think

[west ingot]

is wormhole in rift bugged?

[cold wraith]

!merit2

[candid scarab]

1️⃣ One point into obols makes it possible for them to drop at all. Obols are rare items giving stat boosts when equipped.
2️⃣ Buy for all unlocked characters. Afk gains are very important and 2% per character is quite a lot when you start out with just 20%. Purchase more every time you get a new character.
3️⃣ Mob respawn increases your kills per hour making opening portals faster. If you are done with world 2 for now you can skip this in favor of purchases that help in all worlds.
4️⃣ When maxed you are likely to get a bit over 7 gems for every 10 kills on average regardless of boss or difficulty.
5️⃣ Obols are rare and more drop rate will help you fill out your obol pages faster.
6️⃣ More balls = More gems, arcade bonuses and other items.
7️⃣ Not much better than Amarok gear for a significantly higher price.
8️⃣ EXP Converter is not worth using.
⚔️ The two star talents boost card drops and mana regen. Put a point here as soon as you start farming the W2 minibosses. The other points increasing the drop rate are less important. Buy the Silver Antique and Capitalist Case from the forest shop daily for more chances instead until after arcade balls are maxed.

[cold wraith]

i think w2 was the easiest to max for me

[night sable]

same

[cold wraith]

the upgrades just did themselves

[night sable]

my problem right now is having recipes maxed

[atomic fable]

Do I just get the +2% afk gains upgrade out of the way for world 4+ since that's when I'd get my 8th, 9th and 10th characters?

[cold wraith]

might as well youll get more points later

[night sable]

you would not get 9th or 10th at w4

but you should max it anyway its useful

[cold wraith]

or you can go for gem drops from bosses

[atomic fable]

i have gem drops maxed

[night sable]

get balls then

[atomic fable]

Okay, that's my next one I can max fully

[cold wraith]

js do whatever the chart thing says and ignore the last 2 merit things for afk

[atomic fable]

This good for Mid w4?

[night sable]

should i be going for void gear after dementia or is it not worth

[cold wraith]

1/2 chiz and 1/2 dem/void

[night sable]

i've already got automated void bar production

[atomic fable]

I got it to 8 for afk gains to prepare for 8th character later

[west ingot]

void gear will be your best for a while prett sure

[cold wraith]

get helmet and chest chiz for dmg and the bottom two void once you can upgrade

[sleek stone]

troll armor on tab 4?

[cold wraith]

yes

[sleek stone]

is it easy to get?

[cold wraith]

no

[sleek stone]

damn

[night sable]

gotta beat w4 a bunch at minimum

[cold wraith]

its one of the hardest sets to get

purely cus of the nullo salt requirement

[night sable]

ig i gotta beat chiz a bunch cause i dont have any of the armor unlocked

[cold wraith]

shouldnt be too many times to get the helmet unlocked

[west ingot]

me neither+

whats good about chiz for damage? does it have a misc bonus

[sleek stone]

then chiz for mid w5?

[sleek ferry]

I'm nearing the end of w3, but my smithing is falling behind. Any advice on training it?

[night sable]

i'm 0 for 5 rn cause i didnt know chiz was good

[cold wraith]

i honestly js went amorak

[west ingot]

oh damn

[sleek stone]

dang thats too nice to get

[cold wraith]

the bottom two pieces only give mastery so its not rly that worth

[night sable]

is it actually worth to get over full void or nah

i'm closer to void then chiz

[sleek stone]

gonna go void

have enough mats

[cold wraith]

well you need void to get chiz so..

[sleek stone]

yeah

[west ingot]

oh its part of recipe?

[night sable]

i see

[west ingot]

purple salt? i definitely dont have that yet

[sleek stone]

ohh need the bone only

[cold wraith]

its not that bad to get

[stable parcel]

Isn't there a super simple trick to this? You don't actually do a run do u?

[sleek stone]

and purple salt

[cold wraith]

use speed pots

[night sable]

would you say it's absolutely not worth to get the specialized void tier armour then?

[cold wraith]

??????

[short kite]

My internet works fine, both data and wifi but it doesn't connect.

Its a servers problem, since the game is also up to date

[sleek stone]

speed pots and sb

[cold wraith]

oh those yea never get those

[night sable]

THESE

[short kite]

but I can connect on steam so idk tbh

[west ingot]

do i try and fight chaotic chiz?

[night sable]

caps

[cold wraith]

only point in getting them is slab which is w5 mechanic and only really done in w6

[stable parcel]

Im pretty sure i did it once without even having to run from town.. but ok ill try lol

[sleek stone]

yeah

[west ingot]

??

[cold wraith]

yea you only need 100k or so to beat chiz

[west ingot]

chaotic

[cold wraith]

oh

cant be that hard

[atomic fable]

He's asking for chaotic, I think it's not enough accuracy?

I could be wrong

[night sable]

that acc looks real low yeah

[west ingot]

fuck it we ball

[sleek stone]

gogogogg

[west ingot]

oh fuck no

[cold wraith]

lmao

[stable parcel]

isnt chao chiz 25k acc?

[sleek stone]

mechaniic thing

[west ingot]

he has a lot of health

[night sable]

yeah just hit him

[stable parcel]

It tells u at the boss door if ur accuracy is too low

[cold wraith]

card says 11.3k but maybe its diff on wiki

[night sable]

he cant damage you

[sleek stone]

lol we lost soldier now

[cold wraith]

he can

[stable parcel]

I checked like 6 hrs ago but forgot already, trust the card

[night sable]

not if you don't get hit

[west ingot]

HE HURTS

[stable parcel]

oh and im thinking nightmare, so 25k might be right

[cold wraith]

💀

[sleek stone]

gogogo full mechanic gamer

[cold wraith]

bosses that cant kill you is like troll

[sleek stone]

show your ability gamer

[stable parcel]

bro talking while big elephant stomping on him

[night sable]

wiki has chaotic as 11.25k

is it worth to grind chiz for blankie or is respawn amulet better

[cold wraith]

respawn amulet?

[night sable]

the one from dungeon shop

[forest portal]

blanky always cuz it can be upgraded later

[cold wraith]

hows your dr

[west ingot]

RAHHHHHH CHUIZOAR AINT SHIT

[cold wraith]

yep

[forest portal]

lol

[cold wraith]

go beat troll

[west ingot]

not quite there yet

close though

[night sable]

troll is easier no?

[forest portal]

isnt he only like 20mil

[cold wraith]

1m dmg for troll

[cold wraith]

80

[night sable]

1m damage is nothing go kill troll

[forest portal]

but yellow lighing can prob give 1mill

[west ingot]

my yellow lightning does 11mil smile

but pushing with dk

[cold wraith]

i wasted a lot of time in w4/w5

[west ingot]

wait W card

[cold wraith]

pushed on dk in both and just ended up candyinh on another class

[sleek stone]

yeah w card

also get his scarf

[cold wraith]

yea its rly good for the shrines that give crystal chance and dr

[sleek stone]

total dmg 15% and wep power 5

[cold wraith]

not hard to upgrade either

[sleek stone]

damn i should upgrade mine

i have enough

[cold wraith]

upgrade to divine a lot harder tho

[sleek stone]

ehh no

[atomic fable]

Okay, I can defeat it on chaotic, that good?

[forest portal]

nope

[sleek stone]

its on w3 5 merit lv

[atomic fable]

I just tried it myself

[west ingot]

okay now that i understand it now i can kill hi measy

[cold wraith]

divine scarf??

[west ingot]

YO CHIZOAR BLANKIE

[night sable]

surely i can just kill it on chaotic

[sleek stone]

yes

[cold wraith]

you need a shitload of keys

[night sable]

no way it'll be hard

[west ingot]

is blankie rare or what

[forest portal]

l aint got engouh keys and to lazy to grind for it

[sleek stone]

yes

blankie rare and need so much keys but i got lucky tho

[night sable]

its like 1 in 200 or something

[west ingot]

i just got it on second chaotic

[sleek stone]

same

[west ingot]

easy tbh

[cold wraith]

? lowk confused but wtv

[night sable]

1 in 300 from chaotic, 1 in 1k from normal

[sleek stone]

wow were on 2 times and got it

easy to do as es tho

5-7 lightning and gone for me

[forest portal]

l just suck lcant unlock divine scarf

[cold wraith]

was ts not to me then

if it wast thatll make more sense

[west ingot]

where you get the recipe from

[night sable]

oh that fight is trivial on ES

i was expecting easy not do nothing

[sleek stone]

merit lv 5 chizoard recipe

[west ingot]

bruh

[sleek stone]

it would be hard to get rn tho

[forest portal]

how far u away from it?

[west ingot]

havent done 1

[sleek stone]

3 more

[forest portal]

damn

[sleek stone]

[too far

[atomic fable]

Was able to do 3 chaotic runs of chizoar, that a good start?

[night sable]

very normal distribution

[forest portal]

l guess just save your keys to do the merit first

[night sable]

wait even funnier message idea

[atomic fable]

I can't do the merit quest - I don't have 8 characters yet

[night sable]

very normal distribution

[forest portal]

l can unlock cchizor card ldk why my luck is so bad

[sleek stone]

i think i can make the armor

[forest portal]

only helm

[sleek stone]

damn

[forest portal]

and chest maby

[sleek stone]

yeah gonna make it tho

[forest portal]

but the rest are shit not worth it

[sleek stone]

gonna push with my mman to chiz

[atomic fable]

I don't think I can do the giant mob quest for the daily w3 key

I have odds of 1 in 38.8k

[night sable]

i cant this week lmao

yeah same

[west ingot]

welp i literally cant do this yet lol

[atomic fable]

Same situation here

[night sable]

also same

[west ingot]

so start buying the chizoar recipes

[plucky frost]

Does Refinery Throttle cast while offline or do you have to active AFK to get it to work?

[sleek stone]

gogogo 8th char

[atomic fable]

I'm now forced to unlock my daily keys on my dk, but the giant mob quest might prevent me

[west ingot]

?

[sleek stone]

yes

[forest portal]

if there is nothing else to spend it on and u can craft it

[atomic fable]

Welp, I can't get my daily key unlock this week 😭 I just looked at the wiki

[cold wraith]

active

[forest portal]

how?

[atomic fable]

Giant mob chance too high (1 in 38.8k)

[forest portal]

who u using?

[night sable]

i think as soon as i hit the lv 100 on all chars i also hit 8 chars

[atomic fable]

DK

and I think the giant mob chance is for all characters

[west ingot]

this gear set look up to date for w4?

[forest portal]

then u can active and try yout luck

[sleek stone]

yes

[night sable]

better then mine lmao

[west ingot]

its okay bro you dont wanna see my other characters EVERYONE is neglected besides my pusher

[night sable]

oh same

[forest portal]

l only neglect my last char

[night sable]

my pusher has gear and my mman has a bit\

[sleek stone]

i just lack on wep

still at w3 wep

[night sable]

i probably have the resources for gear on everyone but they're in the lab they dont need gear

[zenith hare]

they all elites? minus vman ofc

[lunar badge]

@night sable wtf

[night sable]

hi

this isnt clord

[lunar badge]

yeah thats why i did a double take LOL

[atomic fable]

I guess I could grind the orb a bit while waiting for the giant mob spawn? (If I don't get it after a good while, I'll move back to w4)

[zenith hare]

sus

[night sable]

no lmao

[lunar badge]

I gave in the wings seemed too good

[zenith hare]

get all elites before pushing w4 btw

[night sable]

i'm doing w4 in a stupid way cause i want to shove my pusher into lab for a while

when i hit w5

[zenith hare]

divinity will be your lab

[night sable]

divinity doesnt give me chip slots

[west ingot]

dude these cosmic time candies are looking at me really nicely

i wanna use them to get to troll so badly

[zenith hare]

except divinity does!

sort of

[west ingot]

bean do i do it

[zenith hare]

3 Gods in particular can help

[zenith hare]

have fun with the 10 hours

[night sable]

as soon as i hit w5 it's gonna be weird cause my pusher is es and es is the divinity skiller

[lunar badge]

You should at least get bubo and bm for the xp since you're gonna be labbing a bunch

[night sable]

true

[zenith hare]

yes and no

[west ingot]

is that a yes do it it, i have 4 of them

[cold wraith]

i hit 5-10 hours on 9 of them and one got 200 its not that much

[lunar badge]

thats what im doing i have everyone but my pusher chilling while my main is doing quests and getting stuff

[night sable]

the other reason i dont wanna go for elites just yet is cause my levels are not it

[lunar badge]

i used a bunch of candies to get all my elites yesterday

[west ingot]

so use them? i got 2 more portals total

[zenith hare]

levels doesn't matter

[night sable]

they matter a little

[zenith hare]

ehhh not really

[lunar badge]

It's pretty worth it just to have them imo You can push to them then just forget about pushing and chill at W4 for a while

[cold wraith]

nah save them for fractal js in case

[zenith hare]

healing food is what matters, and acc

which most of that isn't tied to levels

[west ingot]

idk what that is

[lunar badge]

Yeah healing food and hemo will carry you

[zenith hare]

minus tab 1 points but a level 33 can get that acc maxed

[night sable]

hemo carry is so real

[lunar badge]

I pushed to W4 and now I'm just planning on being here for a while and catching up on quests from previous worlds

More than enough to do

[night sable]

i dont even run healing food on my pusher unless i'm going offline afk

only level 20 hemo too

[lunar badge]

What gear do you have on your pusher?

[night sable]

dementia, ice staff, respawn amulet, 2 serrated rings

[zenith hare]

fun little fact! serrated rings are on par with iron bands in w4, and iron bands is better in w5

[night sable]

i'm just off of void staff as well i think

[forest portal]

but serrated ring got the skill eff

[night sable]

oh you need frigids nevermind

[zenith hare]

oh no, anyways

[lunar badge]

yeah thats more than enough, i honestly suggest just throwing the armor and rings around to all your characters and push with candies to get them elite'd and stuff them into the lab and forget about them for a while while bubo works his magic on all of them

and the passive breeding xp boost you get with bm is more than worth at least getting that

[zenith hare]

and pet power bonus

and also the passive account wide lab xp you get from bubo

while he's in lab anyways

[night sable]

very balanced equipment

[zenith hare]

he gives a % of his xp to the lowest lab level character btw @night sable

[night sable]

i'm so close to not being able to equip demen lmao i'm 73 on bm

[bronze moth]

tufty i got 1m damage today

[west ingot]

@bronze moth I got some upgrades as well

[bronze moth]

dang chizoar scarf

[west ingot]

yeah got lucky

[bronze moth]

i wish bro

i got chaotic amarok pendant

which is good enough ig

[west ingot]

did like 5 chaotic chizoar runs and got it on second

[lunar badge]

I got the scarf on my 1st kill 😭

[bronze moth]

yeah tbh I really should do my chaotic chizoar

[night sable]

aw i was so close to round 12

its not useful but i wanted it

[zenith hare]

(on normal, the chance is 3/1k * Dr)

[bronze moth]

wait what's chaotic chizoar hp lemme check

[forest portal]

when u get ratterler and burger coulsium is easy

[west ingot]

YO LMAO

FIRST COSMIC CANDY FOR A TEST

[lunar badge]

I didn't even realize I got it until people started pointing it out that it was rare

[west ingot]

TROLL HERE I COME

[bronze moth]

WHAT THE

[zenith hare]

ab 200 hours

[bronze moth]

BROOOOO

[west ingot]

so worth it

[bronze moth]

wait ur on flombeiges?

[lunar badge]

huge

[bronze moth]

i'm still on octodars 😭

[zenith hare]

I got the nightmare cape from amarok on my second kill, some things that's rare just happen~

[west ingot]

ive been using all my candies to get past octodads

[bronze moth]

i can't really candy it rn

[zenith hare]

I'm at genies :3

[bronze moth]

because I'm all out

not that bad

[zenith hare]

see?

...definitely genies

[west ingot]

so much damage in wraith bro how

[zenith hare]

I've missed like 4 days of wrath

I could be much further

[forest portal]

mean while lm at sticks

no auto loot and not giving a damn is kicking me in the ass

[zenith hare]

auto loot is massive

[west ingot]

i already had keys apparantly.. so he cant kill me right? just want to make sure

[forest portal]

sticks lag my game to much

[atomic fable]

I bought autoloot at world 4, it's a huge qol feature in my opinion

[zenith hare]

he can't really no

[west ingot]

im goin in

[night sable]

alright i guess i cant say anything about elite classes anymore

[forest portal]

good luck

[night sable]

my weakest guy pushed in half amarok

[zenith hare]

auto loot is basically buying the game, before auto loot it's the trial version

[bronze moth]

wait tufty what was ur kph on octodars

[west ingot]

2700

[bronze moth]

because mine is at 2.3k

[zenith hare]

octodars is one of the best afk maps btw*

[atomic fable]

Still no giant mob spawn (I'm trying to finish the w3 daily boss key quest)

[zenith hare]

you have the prayer on?

[bronze moth]

88 hours till I can reach flombeiges

[atomic fable]

Yes, it's just the odds are very high (1 in 38.8k)

[bronze moth]

but now I'm farming lost batteries

[zenith hare]

wait for weekly reset

[cold wraith]

i kinda want to hit 10m on giant chances

idk if its possible

[bronze moth]

tbh ig i'll get the rift w5 pushing is first priority rn

[cold wraith]

make sure to drop gem envelopes first after rift quest

[atomic fable]

There's some stamps I can get from these, do I grind these out?

[bronze moth]

guys rift or push

[atomic fable]

I just unlocked the card so I only just realised

[west ingot]

i hate trol..

[zenith hare]

rift is uber easy to unlock

[zenith hare]

just follow what he says

[bronze moth]

i checked idleon toolbox it'll take 20 more hours to get 2 more lost batteries which is what I need rn

[zenith hare]

that's if you go 2x over odds

in one afk session

active ES gets that in like 30 mins

[bronze moth]

yeah problem is es doesn't have the damage to kill wormhole mobs (only 254k, he's a bit neglected)

[zenith hare]

you can kill up to 60/70

[atomic fable]

I have my es at over 1m damage

[west ingot]

..

[night sable]

if thats the rare drop table dont bother

[atomic fable]

It is part of the rare drop table

[night sable]

unless you need to grind them for something else as well

[zenith hare]

reminder that dk is only better for crystal mob drops

[atomic fable]

Oh

[zenith hare]

exclusive rare drop tables, example being nutto or wood mushroom drop tables, that aren't in Crystal drop table. es is still better

[west ingot]

gg 🙂

[bronze moth]

ggs

few more days till I can get there

[atomic fable]

ggs

[west ingot]

so do i throw everyone into divinity instead of lab now lmao

[night sable]

pfff ok

[glacial dagger]

Alright I just got to world three and started on the refinery, construction, and the worship totems

[night sable]

the greenies do 1k to my 500 hp shaman

[glacial dagger]

Any advice

[bronze moth]

hw much hp do wormhole mobs have

[cold wraith]

they increase as portal count gets higher

[last grotto]

what lvl of ribbons should i shoot for all my meals

[cold wraith]

max

[last grotto]

thats 15?

[cold wraith]

idk ig

[night sable]

for bubo talents, is it left and right in tubes or on console?

[stable parcel]

I do mostly right and on console

[empty mulch]

is richelin ktichen good

[bronze moth]

but like what's the base hp

[cold wraith]

idk its weaker tho

[bronze moth]

weaker than the zone ur in?

[cold wraith]

yes

[empty mulch]

Should I buy db hood even if i'm just reaching W5

[cold wraith]

why not

[empty mulch]

like is it worth it

or will it go on sale again when im able to make more gems easier

[cold wraith]

why are you asking me 💀

[empty mulch]

idk 😭

[kind valve]

how to unlock the sixth pet slot?

[cold wraith]

arena

wave 125 iirc

[kind valve]

125 wtf

how am i supposed to beat the clammies?

?

[west ingot]

to much content im over stimulating

[latent bramble]

!guide has some arena setups if you haven't looked at them yet

[candid scarab]

Mid-Late Game guide for World 3 / 4 / 5:
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/e/2PACX-1vSCepYAs6sNDP4iq6MJNAG1pvFXzfC_3IQ7ttt5vfEEKAgQhIk4cQqnLRyeH6UyqDSuP4R-6WQeDmmP/pubhtml
Video Guides (by GriffyBit):
https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLVGSDQs1AcvjYTAPtYV6ofbeeEfHpEcb4

[atomic fable]

Does the dk ability to respawn all mobs work for trying to get giant mobs?

[latent bramble]

It doesn't directly spawn giants, but faster normal respawn = more chances at giants/crystals

[bronze moth]

aghh i get max 3 wormhole kills

[dark siren]

are the harvesting foods worth it from anvil tab 1/2? I seem to be going through them extremely quickly. I at least got better print samples from using them, I guess that's what they're for

[kind valve]

i have the setup it just fails

[atomic fable]

Okay, so it helps with faster respawns / more chances?

[steel nymph]

Yes mate

[latent bramble]

Yeah, great for sampling or you can just throw 1 on for an afk session and it'll count for the whole thing. Make sure you turn off your auto arm for food or hold the remaining food in your inventory

[dark siren]

You can't split stacks in inventory, right?

[kind valve]

right

[dark siren]

Really appreciate that tip about it "snapshotting", I always forget to figure that out with games

[bronze moth]

isn't dk also good for 1/10k+ drop farming

since he also gives droprate boost

[latent bramble]

ES is usually better for those

[bronze moth]

yeah my es doesn't quite have the damage yet

[atomic fable]

I can only get dk to the last world 3 map atm

in my situation

[bronze moth]

and getting crow's nest for him needs another day to farm drops

[indigo stratus]

then how did you turn it into a dk

[atomic fable]

I had to go back to the w3 last map to try to do the daily boss keys

I had boss keys already thanks to a mini-boss if I remember right

I'm in world 4, but dk is the only one that can access the last w3 map right now

[bronze moth]

i can def afford spriggly storm for es problem is that he needs more time to farm poops

so I'm gonna farm with dk for now

[plucky frost]

What exactly is the cooldown on refinery throttle...

doesnt seem like seconds

[atomic fable]

It is seconds

[night sable]

alright i hit elite on everyone

now what

[plucky frost]

does it not update in real time?

[atomic fable]

The game rounds it to the nearest 1000 seconds

[plucky frost]

cause it still reads 51k

[plucky frost]

ah

[indigo stratus]

eternal lab jail

[night sable]

oh they were already in eternal lab jail

[indigo stratus]

you get the node that doubles portal kills and push to w5

[night sable]

yeah i have that

[plucky frost]

wait so that means the cooldown of this ability is 14 fucking hours?

[night sable]

and have been doing that

[plucky frost]

[night sable]

my lab levels are min 35 already

[atomic fable]

Yes

[indigo stratus]

then you should be able to get to w5 easy if you have dementia or better armor

[night sable]

true

as long as i'm active on my es i cant die

happy to hear i've been doing what i should, if a bit out of order

[indigo stratus]

how far are you in pets

[night sable]

this a good set of things to have lit up?

[bronze moth]

and ngl dk is really good at farming 1/10k+ drops compared to my es mostly because my dk is more lveld

[bronze moth]

dang better than me

[night sable]

not far enough in bubbles to want sigils yet

[west ingot]

im ngl im not ready to push through another world

[night sable]

carrot and mimic

[indigo stratus]

do you have yellow splicers?

[atomic fable]

Is it worth it to pause the w4 push to get the w3 boss room on all my characters?

[night sable]

i'm gonna say no cause idk what that is

[indigo stratus]

getting T3 splicers is worth it imo

[night sable]

i have t1 splicers rn

[indigo stratus]

You have to kill pincers for the recipe to upgrade to yellow

[night sable]

that's what that is

[indigo stratus]

You waste a LOT of eggs if you don't upgrade the pets, the chances are like half

[night sable]

i could candy that but i really dont want to, yknow

[west ingot]

you dont need to pause the push, you can still push without killer brighside its still progress

[atomic fable]

Are you sure?

[kind valve]

you should push to world 6 asap

no point waiting

[night sable]

oh its 1 in 333k that isnt abd

[atomic fable]

I'm trying to avoid the situation of being mega rushed

[kind valve]

there is no rushing problem

[night sable]

being rushed is fine

[kind valve]

you will unlock more features the higher world you go

[atomic fable]

since it is my 1st time playing through the worlds

[night sable]

who cares if youre rushed just grind the new skills for a while if you cant push

[kind valve]

yeah only stop if you can't go further

[atomic fable]

If I ever do a 2nd account on the game, I'll probably consider pushing as much as I can

[kind valve]

taking it slow is missing out on a lot

not pushing is hindering progress

[crude ocean]

How do I get my talents above 125

[night sable]

i hit the obol and 3 starred the card from 0 before hitting the recipe wtf

i sitll dont have the recipe

[atomic fable]

I see

[kind valve]

barbarian is best for early pushing

[latent bramble]

https://imgur.com/ZpNeaVB

[atomic fable]

I got the giant monster spawn!

which was 1 in 38.8k

I can finally move DK back to w4

[night sable]

i've now hit double sixes before the recipe

[kind valve]

what recipe?

[night sable]

splicers

pincerman one

[kind valve]

yeah it took me a lot of candies too

[night sable]

i missed with all of my 1 2 and 4 hours

which was just over a million kills

[kind valve]

multikill does not count

[night sable]

6x so like 180k

[indigo stratus]

did yo uuse maestro

[kind valve]

it's 1/300k +

[night sable]

1/300k before drop rarity

[night sable]

nuh uh i shouldve done that

how worth are tiered up skulls to get

ive done so much random stuff today i ran out of tps from full

[kind valve]

i've been in a pet battle for 15 minutes

[atomic fable]

For a while, I wondered why I was making no progress until I realised I had the wrong talents on

[night sable]

surely this is reasonable for having just unlocked elite classes on everyone

[lunar badge]

😭

[indigo stratus]

I had 0 lab afk hours when I got elite on everyone

[night sable]

if i spent like 6 candies i could hit w5 right now

or i could wait a week and a half

[atomic fable]

I have 0 candies right now (or barely any), is it worth doing my crystal island now for some?

[sudden wadi]

w5 is just another lab jail

your going to be waiting anyways

[night sable]

i can start on w5 skills though

they seem at least semi passive

[sudden wadi]

what i mean as lab jail is divinity (w5 skill) is lab 2.0

[bronze moth]

this is me rn, absolutely no candies left

[night sable]

i just spent all mine to miss a drop lmao

i only have big ones left

[atomic fable]

and me right now with no candies as well trying to go through w4

[bronze moth]

i spent 3 12 hour time candies for lost remotes, without noticing that i didn't have shrines

[night sable]

i think strength wise i might be able to push w5

[bronze moth]

i did shrines for the last one and still didn't get a lost battery

[night sable]

but if i do that i have to move my shrines out of w4

and swt with everyone afk in lab is really funny

[bronze moth]

lost batteries are the last thing I need for rift quest then I could keep pushing

[night sable]

i expected that to not work and then i checked my clover and it took a day and a bit to hit level 5

[bronze moth]

i have 1 more map left after octodars (flombeige)

[sudden wadi]

just so you know the first enemy in w5 has 25m hp

[indigo stratus]

do you both have equinox

[bronze moth]

no not yet

i wouldn't be able to complete the challenges in there anyways so i'm gonna unlock that w5

[night sable]

good for it

afking that's gonna suck but i can hit for 43m active

[bronze moth]

goddamn

my max is 1m rn

[night sable]

oh this is es lightning barrage

my max hit is 3m

[bronze moth]

ohhhh i'm on dk

my es isn't equipped with quite the right stuff to deal dmg yet

i'm focusing on leveling all my chars to 100 once I finish troll boss

[night sable]

i'm getting that real soon as well

got like 10 levels on all of them from hitting elites

[bronze moth]

i can craft spriggly storm on my bubo not my es yet tho

ykw imma craft it rn

[sudden wadi]

dont craft everything with everyone

[night sable]

do i have to relog or something

[sudden wadi]

its the archers job to be the crafters

[night sable]

yeah

i think my maestro is my highest crafting rn which is bad but better then any other non archer i think

[indigo stratus]

i just use maestro for crafting since he needs to have higher skills anyway

[night sable]

i think i have to relog i hit 700 collective but the obol isnt opening

[bronze moth]

i only use dk since he has the smithing levels but I'm trying to get others to catch up

[sudden wadi]

no need

[night sable]

i mean if you can only craft things on one guy you gotta craft them on the one guy

[sudden wadi]

just use the produce tab in the anvil on all characters and youll be fine

[night sable]

i craft everything on maestro cause he's level 50 and the rest are somewhere between 35-40

[sudden wadi]

archers produce the most because of the extra anvil points they get

[bronze moth]

yeah my archers have really good speed and bonus xp i just need to claim on them more often

[sudden wadi]

so they should be the highest due to the later items taking longer to produce

[night sable]

oof i'm so close to getting void pick

i wanna try and go for next ore but it's so pointless cause im stuck on tab 3

[bronze moth]

i'm focusing on getting everybody to plat, then dementia

[sudden wadi]

you wont need lustre for a while

[bronze moth]

this is probably the only difficult part of the ice bow

[night sable]

i think if i swap my prints a little i can get full dementia on everyone in a week

i just havent yet

[indigo stratus]

wut

that's by far the easiest

[sudden wadi]

redo your td

[night sable]

foresr souls is super easy yeah

[bronze moth]

i mean like compared to the other stuff in that recipe

[indigo stratus]

do you have save/load unlocked on TD

[bronze moth]

like salts are super easy, and bow you've already crafted

[bronze moth]

not yet i need a ton more

isn't it like 1000 or something to unlock it

[shy ruin]

that's crazy

[night sable]

i feel like that level of weapon is just easy to craft though

[indigo stratus]

use wizard to siphon charge, you should be able to unlock save load in a day or two

[shy ruin]

i can hit for 43 active only

[bronze moth]

yeah ngl it is

[night sable]

void level for where you're at in the game is much harder id say

[sudden wadi]

do not use siphon charge

[indigo stratus]

y

[bronze moth]

yeah it looks pretty difficult

[night sable]

even ignoring yellow gloves

[sudden wadi]

your other characters need the worship xp for better skulls

[bronze moth]

my critters aren't quite at the pingys yet

[ripe orchid]

what should my 8th char be?

[sudden wadi]

dk

[indigo stratus]

that doesn't matter if you can't even save load tho

[bronze moth]

i will get them tho i already have enough for next quest i believe

[shy ruin]

just set a few 20-minute traps and you'll get the shinies easy

[sudden wadi]

why would you need to?

[ripe orchid]

really I need 2 dk's?

[sudden wadi]

i see no point for that to be in the game at all tbh

[bronze moth]

yeah i already have a crescent scorpie just need to finish up the quest

[sudden wadi]

yes

[shy ruin]

what would you do with 2 bbs

[indigo stratus]

because it's annoying to get past like 60 in TD without it

[night sable]

i just unlocked them, theyre kinda eh

[sudden wadi]

then upgrade your towers

[indigo stratus]

it's about the massive time sink

[atomic fable]

What does the save feature do in td?

[ripe orchid]

wait why does it have to be a warrior?

[night sable]

it took so long to get anywhere in trapping but as soon as i hit poison frog it took no time to progress

[shy ruin]

lava recommends 3 of each main class

[bronze moth]

at least tommorow I can finally unlock rift and then continue pushing

[night sable]

but with trap on 7 chars it took like a month and a half to hit poison froge it was so bad

[shy ruin]

if you want to have a mage or an archer as your 8th character, go ahead

[ripe orchid]

ooh

[indigo stratus]

lets you save the level at any multiple of 10 you reach, and load it on each run

[ripe orchid]

ima go mage

[night sable]

i was doing it ineffeciently though so it was mb

[bronze moth]

oof i remember those days

[shy ruin]

good choice

[atomic fable]

Oh, so it basically gives a permanent checkpoint?

Once unlocked

[ripe orchid]

hmm what name

[sudden wadi]

2 dk 1 bb 2 es 1 bubo 1 sb 1 bm 1 vman 1 no class

[bronze moth]

why no class

[shy ruin]

wdym no class

[trail stirrup]

guys how do i build a beast master. like i dont have mana enough for abilities so i dont want to go for abilities. but should i spend talent points on mana so i can go for abilities?

[sudden wadi]

meta changing becuase of master classes

[night sable]

step 1, don't

[indigo stratus]

yeah

[bronze moth]

yeah my problem with bm and es is mana for attacks

[shy ruin]

idk if you should be using bm, their abilties are all mana drainers

[atomic fable]

Okay, that can be useful

[shy ruin]

use sb instead, sb has a higher damage output imo

[trail stirrup]

xDD, gotcha ill play beastmaster without beast mastering

[night sable]

bm is good late(?) but like

[sleek stone]

too much to catch up any tips on exp build?

[trail stirrup]

bm?

[night sable]

if you need abilities on it use abilities on es or dk instead

[sleek stone]

or mana pulse talent

[shy ruin]

beast master

[sleek stone]

mine now didnt flinch on dk