midgame-chat-w3🧊w4🔮

[stable parcel]

bro was end game before end game existed

[exotic swallow]

to 200 lvl now

[zenith hare]

needs w5 materials

[woeful karma]

needs W5 mats

[exotic swallow]

(lmao)

oh my bad

[fossil hatch]

Bro is never getting out of w4 trying to min max everything before w5 ☠️

[zenith hare]

still w3

[exotic swallow]

ok w5, gonna be stuck there until u get full atom collider

[fossil hatch]

I know

[exotic swallow]

but that is in 3 years

[woeful karma]

all i cant get

[zenith hare]

btw that mat cost is cheaper then i thought for max

[fossil hatch]

Wasn’t saying he’s w4 rn, saying since this is how he plays. He’s gonna be stuck there forever

[woeful karma]

nah a year or so at msot?

[exotic swallow]

LMAO

[woeful karma]

maybe?

[zenith hare]

breeding is done in like 3 months tbf

[exotic swallow]

bro has a lifespan of 200 years

[white path]

r u really planning to stay in w4 for a year....

[fossil hatch]

It depends how much min max you going for

[zenith hare]

well, all important shite

[woeful karma]

[zenith hare]

also its not like theyll be running low on gems

[fossil hatch]

And cooking meals(if he decided to max all before moving on)

[stable parcel]

couldve beat idleon 3x in that time and he just wants to beat it once..

[fossil hatch]

Although, vman in w4 is definitely possible

[zenith hare]

level 30 is easy to get tbf, it just may take a bit

[zenith hare]

hes getting it within first 5 minutes

[woeful karma]

possible?

nahhhh
done within a week

[zenith hare]

and im not joking, all he needs to do is kill c chiz

[fossil hatch]

What’s your current maestro at

[zenith hare]

sooner, far far sooner

[zenith hare]

all 1mill mobs done and gmush is all thats needed

[woeful karma]

i think all i lack is the Gmush kills?

[stable parcel]

crazy

[fossil hatch]

[exotic swallow]

yes

[woeful karma]

becasue its him exlusive

one second

[zenith hare]

and ofc since deathnote, mman gonna go brrr

[zenith hare]

go grind w6 card packs :3

[fossil hatch]

Then cooking will be easier also

[exotic swallow]

all of master classes will be released by then

[zenith hare]

(its worth it)

[woeful karma]

not that far away

[white lintel]

For what?

[fossil hatch]

Although, blood marrow isn’t gonna make much of a difference early on

[exotic swallow]

vman

[white lintel]

It jumps up at around 600

[zenith hare]

30 * 20 or so plates is doable

[white lintel]

He ain’t even w4

[zenith hare]

so late cooking itll be done

[exotic swallow]

whenever he gets there.

[zenith hare]

he likely has better damage then you :p or at least ur w5 self anyways

[woeful karma]

how

[zenith hare]

they have the stats to kill kruk on nearly anyone

[white lintel]

I finished w5 with 65M dmg

[woeful karma]

mayyybe

[zenith hare]

a certain gemshop

[woeful karma]

only 65m?

[vital bay]

can i use time candy while doing db quest?

[woeful karma]

too expensive

[fossil hatch]

Ahh, wanna know what damage I had when I finished w5

[white lintel]

It’s better than people now with like 20-30

[woeful karma]

i need my gems for perm upgrades

[exotic swallow]

that's how much u need to enter w6

[zenith hare]

yes but why would you? you only need 1 kill

[woeful karma]

uhhhh

[fossil hatch]

Maybe you can try to beat my main account in that damage sense

[woeful karma]

how far would 100M get you?

[vital bay]

yes but i forgot that havent unlocked colo for w5

[exotic swallow]

more than enough

[zenith hare]

to DB

[woeful karma]

let alone 200M?

[stable parcel]

it's like a normal quest, you can do whatever you want and it's not going to be affected by random stuff

[exotic swallow]

to db

[zenith hare]

maybe first char lock at 200m

[vital bay]

oh wait i just tp to the hole

[fossil hatch]

I finished w5 with around 1Q

Ahh, back when QS was good, and my main did damage XD

[stable parcel]

Did you push to w6 on another char... and then pushed BB to map for DB? and now are getting all the kills by just doing collos?

[white path]

Killed kruk with 1Q? Why

[vital bay]

no i pushed bb

[fossil hatch]

Because I was doing lab/divinity on my main for around like, wel. Ever since w5 came out

[stable parcel]

but you skipped collo map because you teleported to hole?

[fossil hatch]

BUT. I was daily upgrading quick slap

[vital bay]

oh, no i pushed dk through w5 but used bb in w6

[fossil hatch]

It was the only thing I was upgrading lmao, that and stats

My speed was around 750?

[zenith hare]

they can just go a map behind

[fossil hatch]

W6 wasn’t released yet either btw, so I didn’t feel the need to rush it

[white path]

1Q before w6 is crazy

[woeful karma]

goals

[white path]

I thought 10t was endgame before w6

[exotic swallow]

because w5 was their final world for a while.

[fossil hatch]

I was nerfed after quick slap got put to dirt tho

Relied it on as my main damage source

[fossil hatch]

I guess that’s what happens when your active for atleast 17-18 hours a day, for months on end. Farming for one thing am I right

[fossil kayak]

Who needs dmg though?

[woeful karma]

only need a few hours to get to 1M

[woeful karma]

me
i want more Multikill

[fossil hatch]

Damage is mid, that was a back then thing

Now people are trying to hit 100x drop rate

[fossil kayak]

You're a unique case

[woeful karma]

:D

[fossil hatch]

Which is still crazy to me, never won’t be

[woeful karma]

im special

[exotic swallow]

bigger number better person

[fossil kayak]

Fair

[woeful karma]

question
cost cruncher also reduces salt costs right?

[fossil kayak]

I believe so? Not certain though

Either way, should basically always be on the bar until you max it.

[woeful karma]

yes
but not very helpful to me atm lmao

[stable parcel]

Does mastery affect afk kph?

[fossil hatch]

This was like, a couple months before w6 btw

Several people were passing 10t before w6 came out

[stable parcel]

💀 this is me post w6

[woeful karma]

W4 goals

[fossil hatch]

I believe in you man

[woeful karma]

ty

[fossil hatch]

Quick question, for future you

[woeful karma]

i do not
but it is inevitable

[stable parcel]

If anyone can do it, it will be you Zui

[fossil hatch]

When you hit w5, are you going to stay there until you get every god, and all artifacts Eldritch?

[woeful karma]

ill try to give as best of an answer as i can from current me?

[woeful karma]

i am unsure

[stable parcel]

and rank 10 god div

[woeful karma]

i dont know much at all about W4 much less W5 and W6

[fossil hatch]

It’s really just luck those 2

[fossil hatch]

Won’t spoil everything then

[woeful karma]

nah its jsut my small brain cant comprehend that stuff

[fossil hatch]

Do you have doot?

[woeful karma]

not yet

one day maybe

but i got rift slug last pull

[stable parcel]

if zui gets doot pre-w6 they will delete their acc because its too big of an acc boost

[fossil hatch]

You most likely will before w5

[woeful karma]

lmao

[fossil hatch]

W4 is gonna take a little bit XD w5 will be longer

[woeful karma]

i mean
i have under 150 weeks left iirc

[hoary cairn]

is it worth to candy trough w4 with my dk?

[stable parcel]

I have candied 3 portals and will candy the last one probably

so, i say yes, somewhat

[fossil hatch]

You can candy at the end? I guess that’s fine

If your going to candy, I recommend saving it to push for hole in w5 tho

[stable parcel]

I candied a little to get to elite class out of pure impatience, and ya only towards the end am i candying. Middle portals is just patience

[stable parcel]

That's only like 1 portal of the later portals

[fossil hatch]

For classes is honestly valid imo

[stable parcel]

Unless you have brightside

[atomic fable]

Is it worth it for me to start pushing to w5 now? I have brightside

[woeful karma]

i just candy on my main until i get ot the boss

[hoary cairn]

im working on get brightside

[fossil hatch]

ONLY because of your 24 hour candys btw, your other ones aren’t doing much

[stable parcel]

You should've never stopped pushing w5

[woeful karma]

works well for me due to overleveled people and strong buffs

[hoary cairn]

then i save this up for the last portal

and comfy grind the previous portals

[atomic fable]

Oh, I stopped because I was grinding materials with es

[hoary cairn]

slowly, maybe tomorrow i achive the brightside in lab

[woeful karma]

it do be like that sometimes

[stable parcel]

No reason to not have your pusher always afk or active pushing, always always

[atomic fable]

Now that I have brightside, I can no longer have the pusher afk pushing

[latent bramble]

i think my DK was around 100B when I finally killed kruk after w6 launched

[fossil hatch]

I was lazy asf to beat the boss

[stable parcel]

why

[atomic fable]

I need all 6 of my remaining characters to reach it

[fossil hatch]

I didn’t even try to kill it until w6 came around, I got the old kruk orb. Not like it matters tho since he changed it

Or paper, I don’t remember what the old item was

[stable parcel]

ohh, ya active push until you can remove ES from lab then active on ES for resources

[woeful karma]

interesting

what about BB?

doesnt BB have more potential DMG

[latent bramble]

reinfery ranks are infinite, so no

[woeful karma]

ah
true

so BB is better then DK up till refinery outranks it

[latent bramble]

most of my characters rotted in lab until they were way beyond what they needed for all the kruk kill tasks

[woeful karma]

no wonder

i shall forever miss my goated axe toss

[fossil hatch]

He was never better then my dk

[woeful karma]

when i convert him

[fossil hatch]

In any part of the game 🤔 interesting

[latent bramble]

I'd say most peoples BBs are only ever better than DK because they've only level and geared BB

[woeful karma]

✋

[fossil hatch]

My dk damage should be like, 3x it’s damage ☠️

[stable parcel]

my bb was only better than my dk for the first 3 portals of w1. After that my bb was terrible.

He was probably using boxing gloves when DK had ice hammer, idk.

[woeful karma]

me

[exotic swallow]

bro you are not reaching that without w6 bonuses

[woeful karma]

whoes to say

[vital bay]

the other bosses dont count towards db tho??

[exotic swallow]

or it should take u a lot of TIME

[stable parcel]

think we decided they don't

[exotic swallow]

even more than a year

[fossil hatch]

Is that, a challenge?

[vital bay]

so only amarok

[stable parcel]

just ' a boss' . so ya if you did amarok don't go for bosses

[vital bay]

ooh, well i have 6 left and i have done colo 1-4 + all mobs until the moles in w5 and doing w6 mobs now

[woeful karma]

idk
it might just happen
whoes to say

[indigo stratus]

is efaunt trunculus worth making

[stable parcel]

Not really, unless you have a lot of extra materials, which if you are new to w3/w4 you don't

[exotic swallow]

fun fact: dk is my strongest char

[woeful karma]

fun fact: my barb is my strongest character

[exotic swallow]

until I take off the robe that is

[woeful karma]

lmao

[indigo stratus]

I'm mid w4, idk if there's any rings I can get that are better

[woeful karma]

even if i take everything off of it i htink its still my strongest

its a whole 20 levels higher then everyoen and has a lot of damage additions to it

[stable parcel]

If you afk push get the afk ring from funguy in w1.
Even goop rings are fine if you upgrade them, but you should be able to get good rings from dungeon shop or just make steel bands and upgrade them

If you have the mats to make trunculus then it's a fine ring, but generally just not worth the cost

[vital bay]

hmm, how do i get these last 2

[stable parcel]

W2 has good defense rings that are as easy to make as trunuculus so better for the long-push

[indigo stratus]

I've just been using bejewled rings

[zenith hare]

1 catching node counts, minibosses counts, and 1 world boss counts

[woeful karma]

this is the only thing that he needs to worry about
buit like

barb has that damage skill and apocalypses

[vital bay]

catchinh node?

[zenith hare]

dk go brrr

[woeful karma]

Ooo nice

[zenith hare]

the hives

[stable parcel]

Bejeweled don't ahve the best stats ever but are fine rings. but are still great rings compared to other things

There aren't A LOT of great ring choices in this game at all, and especially-so early on

[misty coral]

noob here I just sweeped through W3 with candies and just started cooking and lab in W4, but the rate of stuff feels abysmal. I can't even complete the quest of connecting the first node in Lab to start killing in W4 because my character has like 50 pixels, what am I missing?

[zenith hare]

iron bands are actually better then rex rings

[vital bay]

oh, i dont even know how those work, sometimes they are there and sometimes not

[zenith hare]

because you can use multiple characters in lab

and they can start where one ends

[zenith hare]

only w2 hives should exist, rest gets insta killed dk why

[misty coral]

is this how you're supposed to do that initial quest? it requires only 1 character in the description my other characters are still hardly pushing through W3, I just poured a ton of candy onto my Squire to push to W4

[exotic swallow]

minibosses, event mobs, whatever fits

[vital bay]

damn thanks guys

[zenith hare]

you can just go to w4 on every other char

[stable parcel]

Your whole account has 10 (total) characters to work together for a reason

[zenith hare]

you dont need to beat the boss on every char to enter the next world

[stable parcel]

Just have your chars walk to w3 portal and walk into w4

[vital bay]

yessssiirrr

[exotic swallow]

only for that annoying merit task 😭

[misty coral]

They're working together, in a sort of feudalism style system where they feed everything into big squire

[stable parcel]

as it should be

[zenith hare]

yes and thats what you do with lab

shove everyone into lab minus ur squire to get its elite

then you shove dk into lab and take one char out to get their elite

etc untill you get every elite minus vman

[vital bay]

ok now i got db, what do i put my talent point into?

[zenith hare]

no real proper guide rn

just use ur eyes, if you have db you should know whats good and whats not

[iron jay]

#1330702925294735360 message

[stable parcel]

but 16 new skills is so much to read 😮‍💨

[zenith hare]

15

[stable parcel]

but 3 rows of 5 is so much to count 😮‍💨

[sleek pollen]

been same as always

[zenith hare]

shame

[vital bay]

truee

[misty coral]

gotcha gotcha, feels sort of bad just puttting them there instead of fishing or catching tho what about cooking? is cooking speed effected by any stat or is it it's own thing? I'm upgrading the omelette dish rn to try and have it go higher but it's real real slow

[zenith hare]

cooking sucks, and its afk. cooking only gives ladles at a low rate

and...skilling too much is actually bad

due to jman

he needs to be highest skill level in w1-3 skills

[stable parcel]

W4 is the time where idlers have to realize that minimum-50% of their characters will be in some sort of afk jail from now for the next few months. Get used to it 👍

[zenith hare]

and he has a really hard time early on, so lower the level he needs to get to the easier

printer is good enough for resources

[stable parcel]

Needs to or else he shrivels up and dies like pete the peanut, and his character is deleted forever.

[sleek pollen]

yes

[stable parcel]

no

[sleek pollen]

he just gives skill eff/exp to char with lower skill lvl in that specific level

[woeful karma]

think this is good enough for that?
(havent upgraded my armor nor wep since mid W2)

[stable parcel]

you're joking right

[sleek pollen]

surely

[woeful karma]

no

[stable parcel]

it's like 100x overkill

[woeful karma]

idk if thats enough or not
i forget the stats n stuff for him

[sleek pollen]

he's someone who stayed one year in w1 and w2

[woeful karma]

oh
nice

[stable parcel]

I know but he knows 'stuff' 🤷‍♂️ lol

[stable parcel]

probably a 1 shot

[sleek pollen]

hmm

[woeful karma]

my experience isnt normal so i dont think what is which

and who is how

[vital bay]

what stats should i focus on in cards as db?

[sleek pollen]

fish eff

[vital bay]

but should i put that many point into fishing?

and my fishing eff aint that high either so would it make a big difference?

[vital bay]

yea i saw that but i was just thining if it would be more benefitial going for total dmg% instead of fishing eff, as my fishing eff isnt that high

[sleek pollen]

nah you have other talents to max first, tho go read the db guide it'll explain things better

[sleek pollen]

total dmg card? doesn'g affect wraith

[vital bay]

ooh okay, fishing eff it is

[sleek pollen]

like nothing affect wraith, not gear not prayer not cards (beside skilling, food, exp and some other maybe idk)

[vital bay]

okay thanks

is this ok then?

[exotic swallow]

dont u have "all fishing cards are now passive" from skill mastery

[sleek pollen]

you don't have skilling mastery?

[pastel shuttle]

I heard that Squire would be the best class for pushing w4, but he's also my miner right now. Does that mean I have to get to prepare my Blood Barbarian to get some mining levels so that Squire can do more combat?

[sleek pollen]

with w3 printer and in w4 with the lab bonus that makes your prints x2 you basically never farm resources yourself
also no need for now to up your BB's mining

[vital bay]

no i do not have passive fishing cards

[exotic swallow]

damn

[sleek pollen]

rip

[exotic swallow]

do rift

should be easy enough

[vital bay]

yea im at the afk 100 000kills i think

[pastel shuttle]

Oh interesting, although my printer is kinda poopy right now 😂

But I probably haven't put enough time into it yet.

[plucky frost]

How exactly does refinery work? Is there a way to speed up cycles or level up production? Cause i seem to be hard capped on my ability to generate redox salts

This rank hasnt changed for days

[exotic swallow]

it starts slow, later it will be faster.

[sleek pollen]

you gotta let the bar fill to max then the refine button will change to rank up

also never auto refine red (and green later), they are always at 0%

[exotic swallow]

greens are at 2nd tab btw

(you did not unlock that yet)

[stable parcel]

set that to 0%., then when the bar maxes you rank it up.

Rank up red salts like 5x before ranking up anything.
And at that point make sure you understand how to rank things up properly.

[plucky frost]

oh huh so turn it on but leave it to auto refine 0?

[sleek pollen]

yes red at 0

[plucky frost]

what do the %s even mean?

[exotic swallow]

the bar must be full for it to rank up, meanwhile auto refine on 0.

[stable parcel]

It will make it so you always get a bunch of red salts at one time, and then nothing, and then a bunch. But it will be most efficient

[exotic swallow]

the more it ranks up, the faster and faster it will eventually become.

[sleek pollen]

also yeah you can speed up cycle with all kinds of different things but the first things you'd get is squire talents and in w4 something that makes you refinery x3 faster

[plucky frost]

Awesome thank you. I wish the game told you how this worked

[stable parcel]

ya salts are one of the features that can be messed up badly yet there is zero tutorial lolol

[exotic swallow]

your tutorial: head and ability to find information

[sleek pollen]

also in the pin there's an image telling you how you should rank up your salts, because you don't want to always rank them up as it'll mess your ref and you'll be basically doom yourself

[plucky frost]

so like the fish pond

[plucky frost]

delightful

[sleek pollen]

there's another one like that but it only show how your ranks should look like for a few level and it doens't really explains it but the one Diarrhea sent is better

[plucky frost]

So basically in my case leveling up the 2nd refinery would be very bad

[sleek pollen]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-gif-16847314810084971000

[exotic swallow]

yes

[plucky frost]

Sounds good thanks

[sleek pollen]

also now that you also have printer unlocked your prints should be most of the time some skilling resources and ref mats

[sleek pollen]

okay so basically let you char in lab jail so you can have that x2 print bonus to print more resources to upgrade skilling bubbles to redo prints to have better print to upgrade skilling bubbles more so you can redo your prints so you can upgrade your skilling bubbles etc etc

[plucky frost]

Yup im just printing what I use

[sleek pollen]

nice

[exotic swallow]

squires = ores, berserker = fishing, all mages = wood, bowmen = bugs, hunter = refinery monster mats/could be bugs as well, jman/maestro/vman = monster mats

[plucky frost]

What's the best way to take a good sample for monster mats btw? Ive been sampling with like skilling food, skilling sets, etc for my other mats

but what exactly should I be equipping before taking a monster sample

[sleek pollen]

grr you're stealing my job

Barb : fish
Bowman : bug
Mage (both) : log
Squire : ore
Hunter : any but can do monster drop
Jman : any as well but vman best prints is monster drop

both hunter and mman do monster for vial/ref/bubbles

[tranquil burrow]

Is taking a copper sample on db still worth

[sleek pollen]

tbh I'm still not doing that unless my prints are in bazillions

also me need more fish to prints aint ditching a fish for bad copper print

[tranquil burrow]

Yeah I already need to sacrifice a few fish to fit them all in the sample page

So I would have to get rid of another for copper

[stable parcel]

not really. I have my db samplked it but he just prints fish

[plucky frost]

Is 2 slots the max for prints? or do you eventually unlock more

[sleek pollen]

your best gear, dmg and afk gain card, afk gain star sign

[tranquil burrow]

2 is max output with crystal

[sleek pollen]

2 printing slot is max

[stable parcel]

💎

[exotic swallow]

gemshop

[sleek pollen]

but you can have more sampling slots with gem

[stable parcel]

For active prints: yes only ever 2.
but for storing prints, you can buy more with gems

[plucky frost]

i already have crystal printer

[plucky frost]

ah kk thanks

[stable parcel]

then ya you are where u need t obe

Its a gem-bait that lava even makes us buy crystal printer with how essential it is bujt.. yaboi needs to make money so 🤷‍♂️

[exotic swallow]

https://tenor.com/view/godzilla-x-kong-the-new-empire-kong-king-kong-yapping-yap-gif-14490260250998039543

he gets enough

[faint willow]

what pet power do i need for wave 50

[sleek pollen]

just a good team, pet power is irrelevant most of times imo

!guide pet tab has recommended teams

[candid scarab]

Mid-Late Game guide for World 3 / 4 / 5:
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/e/2PACX-1vSCepYAs6sNDP4iq6MJNAG1pvFXzfC_3IQ7ttt5vfEEKAgQhIk4cQqnLRyeH6UyqDSuP4R-6WQeDmmP/pubhtml
Video Guides (by GriffyBit):
https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLVGSDQs1AcvjYTAPtYV6ofbeeEfHpEcb4

[faint willow]

Is there any difference between diferent pets with same genetics?

[iron jay]

nope

[stable parcel]

I think later on the higher world pets have higher chance to be higher power because of buffs.

Other than that, same

[faint willow]

oh, good to know, now lets hope i can get the weekly lab jewel

[sleek pollen]

they are just skins for same skill

[stable parcel]

and you can DNA splice w1 while in w4 but you can't DNA splice other worlds until you unlock the recipe which is like w5+

[sleek pollen]

or like when you want both of the same skill you gotta have another different one

[tranquil burrow]

@sleek pollen can u send me a pic in dms sometime of all ur samples like not the amount but which things ur sampling

[pastel shuttle]

😂 How many chars should be in lab jail?

[tranquil burrow]

Cuz I’m struggling trying to fit everything into the 10 slots or whatever there is per charavter

[sleek pollen]

all beside your pusher (and jman if you don't lose any meaningful bonus)

[stable parcel]

are you actually early w6?

[tranquil burrow]

Yes

Like i tryna sample fish and they don’t all fit in so im wondering what’s best to prioritize

[faint willow]

i just beaten crypt a couple of hours ago, i need to unlock 2 more spices and then i need to farm 5k of it

[sleek pollen]

welp IE won't load up for me so imma send you the setup I'm doing
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1aW_lVDeIMZjIc5u5yy8Np1z7ixmNV-Hy49aCWYGv210/edit?gid=0#gid=0

[stable parcel]

These are mine. I'm w4 pushing into w5.

the resource you print would be different but the idea is the same based on class. Getting vman to print horns, spores, sand is a good idea.

myh archer doing spores will move to bugs later

[faint willow]

i can see myself somehow reaching the spice, the 5k species part worries me

[tranquil burrow]

Now this is exactly what I was looking for thank you very much 😊

[atomic fable]

Is it normal to only have 2.5k kph in world 4?

even with brightside

[stable parcel]

ye

[stable parcel]

Maybe should be a little higher or lower depending on what map you're on, but it seems average.

[atomic fable]

I'm on the flying worms map right now

[hoary cairn]

i have 2.9k on the shell map in w4

so i think its okay

[stable parcel]

ya you might be a tad low cup, it's not drastic but probably something you could work on

alchemy, stamps, something

[deep wigeon]

whats best way to get breeding xp to unlock shinny pets?

[atomic fable]

Should I go on an archer for a second to level up this bubble?

It might help for w4

[stable parcel]

it doesn't matter in any way who you level a bubble on o.o

[atomic fable]

It does for green because of this, this is multiplied by another bubble

[tranquil burrow]

Is idle Skilling trophy best skill eff trophy?

[deep wigeon]

it does matter a little, warrior have cheaper orange boubles, archer green and mage purple

[tranquil burrow]

It matters a lot lol

[stable parcel]

worth leveling but make sure you bargain discount it

[tranquil burrow]

I think if I swap to a mage for example to level a mage bubble it’s 10x cheaper than if I was on a warrior

[stable parcel]

?

My price literally doesn't change?

[deep wigeon]

ye, but later i dont think it will matter too much when everything is atom priced

[stable parcel]

what did u guys break

[tranquil burrow]

True this

But if ur spending materials it will be a lot cheaper to be on that respective class

[stable parcel]

?

It doesn't matter

[lyric basalt]

Is it normal to have an ES with 3.5mil DMG in w4?

[deep wigeon]

same bouble just with mage

[faint willow]

ill just skip this week jewel i think

[atomic fable]

Was able to level it up twice with 3 bargain tags

[tranquil burrow]

The reduced material bubble gets multiplied by the class bonus multiplier bubble

[fallen ridge]

it does matter unless it costs 1000M

[tranquil burrow]

Yep right here

[atomic fable]

That's the bubble I was thinking of

[fallen ridge]

and get also further multiplied by the 17th

[deep wigeon]

these two stacks makeing it cheaper

[tranquil burrow]

Ye

[atomic fable]

That applies to orange (Warrior) and green (Archer) as well

[tranquil burrow]

Ye other one too

[astral lava]

Only the bargain bubbles

[stable parcel]

I honestly thought those were shared accountwide. My mind is blown

[atomic fable]

Oh

[hoary cairn]

this affect the others too?

[fallen ridge]

bonus IS account wise

[astral lava]

What does it say?

[hoary cairn]

yeah i read it 3th

[fallen ridge]

but since mages benift more from purple bubbles they get more of that account-wide bonus

[hoary cairn]

and realized im dumb

[deep wigeon]

rip, u can save alot of mats by useing class for it color

[sleek pollen]

idk bro I aint reading allat

[stable parcel]

wonder how much i have wasted over time

[astral lava]

How did u read my massage

[atomic fable]

It's now 2.7k kph, that better? I levelled up this bubble

[tranquil burrow]

What’s this say

[astral lava]

Idk, ask the bubble

[tranquil burrow]

I ain’t reading allat

Bro typed an essay

[sleek pollen]

how did I what? its blurred
also I ain't doing no massage for you bbg

[stable parcel]

ill take 1 plz 1️⃣

Cattleprod doing gods werk

[sleek pollen]

Ô Dear Ô Bubble, can you bewtow upon us your knowledge so that the unanswered question may get its response

[tranquil burrow]

Kattlekruk 💀

[stable parcel]

i changed it

[astral lava]

ÔÔÔ

[deep wigeon]

mannn choco chip on crystal island is soo nice

[astral lava]

And in daily resets

[exotic swallow]

those are the numbers I have only seen in my db

[sleek pollen]

grrr no

[lyric basalt]

I need y'alls opinions, I don't know which one I should choose, BB for AFK, ES for crazy DMG, or Bubo for portal pushing, I'm in w4 but the only thing is that my ES is usually pushing and doesn't really material farm so which one is best

[sleek pollen]

Es or DK is best for pushing, active ofc, if you can't active push BB afk push it is

DK is safer than ES when pushing

[zenith hare]

just a btw: bubo is only good at pushing w6 rn

[fallen ridge]

bubo isn't good at pushing unless u can level his talent to 200+

[zenith hare]

as you need tentieye level 200+

[lyric basalt]

So like late w5

[zenith hare]

not even

[fallen ridge]

w6

[lyric basalt]

Damn

[sleek pollen]

early to somewhat slighlty early mid w6

[lyric basalt]

Is BB 1.7m DMG good for being at bigolle worm though?

[vital bay]

i think you would need more dmg tbh

[lyric basalt]

How much

[exotic swallow]

idk u find out

[vital bay]

well i am not at bigole worm yet but bigole mole is 900m

ooh do u mean biggole wurm?

i thought u meant tremor wurm

[sleek pollen]

he is w4 ye

[honest jackal]

why are some of my shiny forms locked and some not?

[tacit dock]

looks like you havent unlocked the next pet

[honest jackal]

is that necesarry for unlocking shiny form?

[tacit dock]

yes it seems so

[honest jackal]

alright, that actually tracks with all my other locked shiny pets, thanks

[tranquil burrow]

Does it matter when you take your sample in a vman speedrun

Guessing have the multi kill bonus on is the only thing

[uneven obsidian]

get as far as you can in order to kill as many nightmare bosses for better respawn rate, then go sample the mob you want

[tranquil burrow]

Nightmare bosses specifically?

[uneven obsidian]

nightmare boss count as 3 bosses

[north root]

how do u rank up ur refinery?

[tranquil burrow]

How did I not know this

[tacit dock]

wait until it reaches 100%

[tranquil burrow]

Good to know even without sampling lol

[atomic fable]

Is it worth to unlock the rift as soon as I'm able to?

[tacit dock]

yes

rift bonuses are great

[atomic fable]

Alright, should I try to get it during the push?

[tacit dock]

you should unlock it asap yes

[atomic fable]

Alright, how far along the map is it?

[tacit dock]

colosseum

minibosses

with divine knight

thats it

[tacit dock]

its in the map with octopus i believe

[atomic fable]

Okay, so it's later than flying worms

[tacit dock]

look at the wiki

[vital bay]

why is the wiki so slow bruhh

[atomic fable]

Okay, so I'm 5 maps away form rift?

[north root]

ok thanks

[atomic fable]

Dang, that might take a while

[north root]

and what is the point in increasing its rank?

[atomic fable]

Increased salt cap

but it costs more to make salts

but you do make more per cycle

[north root]

ohh means instead of 2 i get 3 or 4

yeah red salt isnt an issue i think i can increase its rank

[atomic fable]

true, I can't maintain orange salts right now if I link the 3x refinery speed in lab

[north root]

the thing is orange salts is so insane

[atomic fable]

I can maintain Red-Blue if I don't have x3 speed active

[north root]

so i should go for more ranks in red salt?

[atomic fable]

Red salts should remain 0% auto refine

[north root]

now i get it i was so confused early on, on how to increase the amount

the gmush might be a prob if i keep refining tho

even my wizard has the highest damage even tho he has the shittiest weapon the lowest level still he has the highest damage

getting my barb to high damage is becoming more difficult

gave it to shaman

ahaha most prob he will become more op later on

just one more

[west ingot]

Woo 1.2million damage after some checkout books

[north root]

can someone also explain library a bit to me

[atomic fable]

Is 2.75k kph on flying worms decent btw?

or should I try to get it higher

[zenith hare]

the last number can become higher on talents

[west ingot]

Well what is there to explain? You checkout books to increase the max upgrade cap on talents

[zenith hare]

early on i think highest you can get is 125

upgrades throughout the game

[north root]

nah that i understand but is there something like the case with the cogs

[atomic fable]

My highest right now for example is 143

[zenith hare]

nope

[north root]

if i dont checkout it keeps increasing

[zenith hare]

oh yeah it does

[west ingot]

It takes longer the more books you have

[zenith hare]

thought you meant it scaled max level the more you had

[north root]

same as with cogs hmmm

[atomic fable]

I have that buff in lab

[west ingot]

And the upgrades are permanent even after skill point resets so use them

[west ingot]

If you want the biggest damage boost from the do gilded sword and the axe from your page 1 talents

[north root]

so i should checkout but i am so confused i dont want to waste

[west ingot]

There permanent and infinite just time locked so there's not really a wasting it

[atomic fable]

Only 2 things I think will increase it for me at this point is alchemy, stamp buffs and maybe trying to reach mk if I even can

[north root]

like with archer i have yet to max out the afk and the quick whatever that is

[west ingot]

You got speed potions?

[atomic fable]

Yes, but they give less damage than health or damage potions

at least for me

[west ingot]

Are you active or afk?

[atomic fable]

Active as of right now

[north root]

then i will get them for each the guilded sword and axe

[west ingot]

Okay then that is true, your active kph though is double if not triple your active. As that is the case for me

[north root]

btw now how does my cog look i am removing the 0% slowly

[west ingot]

Gilded sword is the percentage one correct? I don't remember

[north root]

yupsies

[atomic fable]

probably, it's 61% afk gains for 2.75k

[north root]

the first talent tab

[west ingot]

Yeah focus that and book it if your lacking damage

What world are you fraggy

[north root]

yeah i will be just using my books for those 2 as i have yet to max out my afk

world 3 sir

my barb is pushing with shit damage, squire is mining and all the other character are farming level for 7th character

[west ingot]

How shit damage we talkin

[north root]

wait i will show

the difference is insane lol

[stable parcel]

Can i re-trigger the world boss event to tele me there if I didnt kill it yet?

[atomic fable]

You'll need more accuracy towards the 2nd half of world 3 just so you know

[white path]

cloudsave

[north root]

well i forgot to equip the cards this is the damage now

[atomic fable]

Yes

[north root]

me?

[atomic fable]

Yes, you're at ~2.31k accuracy

[north root]

yeah i know shaquaracy will be farmed soon

[atomic fable]

120k?!

I might want to try to increase my kph here

as there's a few options I have for it - 1 is the 1 bubble that gives more kills for dn and portals

[north root]

i am right now at the thermos

[atomic fable]

I'd not be able to reach mk in world 4 without like 10m+ damage

[magic marten]

You get more damage per 100k kills on your barb

[worn raptor]

Frigid soul vial incr base mk

[magic marten]

Vs your es gets damage with stamps collected and ur shaman lvl 4 vials

No its amount of stamps that you have found

[worn raptor]

X3 iirc

[magic marten]

You will eventually get the stamps so you dont have to worry

[worn raptor]

Blue x2 (lab)
Yellow x3 (harriep)
Purple x6 (both)

If you have purple (doot or lab+harriep) somtimes bug and swap between purple and yellow

[magic marten]

It should be purple if you have both

Dont worry youll eventually wanna get them all

Just do what you can cause some stamps are rng reliant on drop and some are from quests which has a long requirement and even if you get alot of the stamps you need slot of resources, money and space to upgrade them

You got the golden food and steve sword stamp already?

[worn raptor]

Yes, just visual bug

[north root]

should i use the accuracy prayer?

[atomic fable]

Alright, I'll start doing that now that I have all my elite classes

[magic marten]

Which class are you on?

[north root]

barb pushing w3

fighting quenchies

[magic marten]

Yeah for that stamps you need alot of materials and later on for multitool youll need like level 40 or 50 div which will just take time

[atomic fable]

I kinda wonder, once I unlock my 8th character, do I go for all the easier quests?

[worn raptor]

Why not, free accuracy

[magic marten]

Try equipping the sand castles card from w2 for % accuracy and do you mind sharing your 1st page talent?

If im not mistaken the accuracy prayer isnt worth it

[worn raptor]

Its like -8% total dmg and get like 30% accuracy

8% its nothing

Prayer at lvl 2 or 3 its the same than ruby neptuneye card

[magic marten]

Imo you have too much points in the hp talent which could be used for int talent

[silver pine]

what do they mean with greenstack 20 different items?

[north root]

int?

[worn raptor]

Gstack=10m of an item

[silver pine]

lol

[north root]

ohh i can reset

[silver pine]

100k max now or so

[magic marten]

Wrong message mugiwara

No 10m stack of 20 different items

[silver pine]

thats far away

[north root]

also i have some here i can use these too

[magic marten]

Yeah take that

[north root]

eitiher i can go for talent points or accuracty

[worn raptor]

Always easiest mats, copper, iron, gold, oak, bleach etc

[noble moth]

dont go for AFK gains

[north root]

i went for talent points for now

[noble moth]

you should go for ACC/DEF n Talent points

[north root]

also before doing dungeons should i equip cards for it?

[magic marten]

If you have the dungeon cards you should use them

Equip accuracy % accuracy or wis cards if you have em see if it fixed it for you

[north root]

ok i might have to buy preset now for dungeon or not

[red compass]

hey, should i work towards gettin full dementia for all my chars? whats the best gear that would allow my chars to push thru w4 easily? it seems to me like dementia is best bc itll evolve into void

alr bet, ty

[north root]

damn the fishing sampling sucks

no others are good

fishing is really not great

[worn raptor]

I remember my firsts prints

[north root]

still better than mine

[worn raptor]

I remember those bloachs, 2/hr

[north root]

i sampled like 10 gmush

[noble moth]

how they look rn?

did you asked on spanish chat?

[high trail]

Guys its time

[crisp lava]

Does your fishing gear affect your sampling?

[atomic fable]

It boosts efficiency

which can lead to more prints

[crisp lava]

But each color power doesn't matter? Just plain efficiency?

[north root]

where are the equinox?

[silver pine]

u need to get mirror drop from skeletons

[north root]

the coll skeletons?

[silver pine]

nah begind the rams

behind

[north root]

the 2nd map?

[true hamlet]

Congrats, now it does an extra bit of nothing, but I guess it does something since it's an equinox dream??

[north root]

did u buy the pickle each day?

[true hamlet]

Each colour corresponds to a different fish, so you should try increase it's weight against others before sampling

[high trail]

yhee ofc i did it 1by 1

[high trail]

well i always wanted that juicy 252% nothing bonus

I meaan thats not to much tbh

[true hamlet]

Cauliflower and that purple bubble I think?

It's called hyperswift, just checked

Manta ray bubble

[atomic fable]

Should I try to get that bubble towards level 2 graudally?

[high trail]

idk after i get to w2 i started to daily buy them anyway like a half yrs ago

[atomic fable]

Okay, my bad for not doing it sooner 😭

[high trail]

but yhe you want 100 for the upgrade

[true hamlet]

And hope that he doesn't have a task coming up about minmaxing nothing bonuses from all around the world

[ionic delta]

whats the fastest breeding forager combo to prioritize one specific spice? im trying to get 5k for a lab jewel i dont have, but i just unlocked the spice

[atomic fable]

I've not started the equinox yet so I still have time to prepare?

[true hamlet]

Just craft better weapons

[high trail]

idk cooking woud be still better+you can get better weapon

[true hamlet]

I mean, getting cooking up and running is good overall

ice suffices until w6

Then void would help a bit

Don't worry too much about it

[worn raptor]

waiting for lvl3

[high trail]

yoo nice tbh i wanna max that vial

[noble moth]

all attoms go brrr

[high trail]

so anybody have a setup for this ?

[worn raptor]

I had more but I spent them

[trail torrent]

hello i just got to the rift and i am not good enough for challenge 1?

[noble moth]

makes sense. spanish squad go brrr

[worn raptor]

if you go to crystal island and open gshop, gg

same if you go out

yeah islands...

[magic cargo]

thats normal

[worn raptor]

so lazy ngl im suck

[magic cargo]

u have to kill them in one session

[shadow lark]

you cant candy w6

yeah cant candy last released world

[true hamlet]

You can candy resource cards

W4 doesn't take that long to push

[atomic fable]

It's taking me a while to get through 1 map at 2.75k kph

is that normal for w4?

[true hamlet]

2k seems on the lower end..

[atomic fable]

I'm on flying worms

[shadow lark]

its a bit low but not giga low

[true hamlet]

I pushed with 4k to 5k ish

[atomic fable]

So I need it to be higher somehow, how?

and yes, I have brightside

[shadow lark]

2k with brightside

[true hamlet]

I mean, es is best afk pusher so...

[shadow lark]

Just get more damage really

[atomic fable]

I'm currently active pushing on dk since I cannot use my other characters right now

[shadow lark]

pots

recraft armor with w4 stones

[true hamlet]

Something isn't adding up

What are your stamps and owl

[shadow lark]

oof

[atomic fable]

For my owl, I have fractal 1

[true hamlet]

There's the problem

[atomic fable]

wait, it is?!

[true hamlet]

You should get fractal 1 or 2 minimally

[shadow lark]

its not all of your problem

but theres a solid amount of stats there for free

[atomic fable]

for my owl, I currently have fractal 1

If I remember correctly

[true hamlet]

Ah ok..

[atomic fable]

as for stamps, I could try to upgrade it a bit more

[true hamlet]

Go find a damage% stamp

[atomic fable]

but it'd require my es for the stamp levels to be a bit easier to get

[shadow lark]

also cooking has total dmg meals

alchemy has like 100 damage bubbles

roo has damage accuracy and afk gains

theyre still cooking

[atomic fable]

Same situation for me

[true hamlet]

What's mr massacre going to do..

[shadow lark]

upgrade kitchens

[atomic fable]

I need all my characters to reach brightside

[true hamlet]

Are you hitting mk?

[shadow lark]

youre not hitting mk

[atomic fable]

It does boost mk, but it only helps if you hit mk

[true hamlet]

[shadow lark]

youll never hit mk during push if youre not taking it giga slow

[true hamlet]

A lot of people don't have dmg% stamps so make sure you have at least 1.. should help

[atomic fable]

You guys think I'm pushing a bit too early?

[shadow lark]

nope

keep at it

[true hamlet]

No, just a little suboptimally but it's fine

[shadow lark]

i rushed like hell and it was fun

[true hamlet]

I think your problems is the 2 clickers

[atomic fable]

I have 2 damage% stamps

[shadow lark]

alchemy bubbles but thats a liquid problem probably

[true hamlet]

Yeah... I had 5k kph on octodars when pushing on ES..

[shadow lark]

same

[atomic fable]

I have 2.75k kph on my DK btw

[zenith hare]

e

[atomic fable]

I should've said what character I was using initially, mb

[true hamlet]

Yeah I know you're on dk

[shadow lark]

wait

are you hitting accuracy

[true hamlet]

Active should be better than afk rates

[zenith hare]

the clickers do be the least liked update for aa reason

[shadow lark]

like 1.5x

[atomic fable]

I'm doing active pushing on DK and yes, I have 30k accuracy

[true hamlet]

I mean, worst case you just use that one accuracy prayer..

[shadow lark]

yeah then your last options are cards and alchemy i guess

you didnt activate the +hp prayer did you

[atomic fable]

This is my away info for the current map

[zenith hare]

btw @atomic fable you dont need anymore stats from the sounds of it

you have ab 700 kph more then people should have

[atomic fable]

Oh

[true hamlet]

I mean, we have people pushing portals for weeks

[atomic fable]

I don't really have any time candies so I have to do it the hard way

[shadow lark]

youre gonna love w5 if you like w4 portals

[zenith hare]

110 while grinding the gold ribs in w4, nice

[shadow lark]

is this just not possible without stamp reduction or am i missing something

[zenith hare]

here

[shadow lark]

im backtracking right now, no w6 for me

[zenith hare]

took me ab 12 hours to clear it

[shadow lark]

im missing like 10x dam

[zenith hare]

and i was at intended point in progression

1%

[atomic fable]

Is it worth starting to prepare to greenstack items?

[shadow lark]

not really

[zenith hare]

only if you have the storage space

[shadow lark]

like you can do shop items

[zenith hare]

shop items yes

[atomic fable]

I'm more referring to easier ones like Copper ore, Earlier Logs

[zenith hare]

oh those you can easily do

[shadow lark]

but the rest will come with higher prints

[zenith hare]

can def get 20 gstacks by mid-end w4

[atomic fable]

The issue is those are also used in alchemy

[zenith hare]

all logs are easy, and early mats of all other nodes are reaasy too

you get equinox started sooner which is massive

[atomic fable]

1 of the earlier quests is to get 20 greenstacked items

[zenith hare]

plus you dont harm yourself for doing so, thats the entire purpose of the printer

[tawdry fulcrum]

would there be anyreason despite having 100k kills on an enemy type. (via card display) i dont get the Apo Zow completion?

[zenith hare]

the very first is

[atomic fable]

So I might as well start pushing for some of the greenstacks early?

[zenith hare]

it rounds up

means you need ab 500 more kills

[tawdry fulcrum]

what if i had 109k and it wasnt counting still need 500?

[zenith hare]

then you havent leveled the zow talent enough

[atomic fable]

I had a greenstack earlier on copper ore, but I lost it when upgrading a vial

[zenith hare]

add a hundred more

[tawdry fulcrum]

ahh i would have assumed it would have shown the # Apocalypses Caused without needing to skill the talent more than once

[zenith hare]

giga beanstacking gold food :3

need 100k of each gold food

[atomic fable]

I have over 100k copper print, I can probably finish that sooner

[white path]

almost at 200

[zenith hare]

tbh this is the main one, i can probs do it

[zenith hare]

i click twice to do this one

[true hamlet]

Rip gstacks

I nearly blew my snake skin too

[zenith hare]

i think if i were to actually aim for gstacks, id be at 210 within the hour

[atomic fable]

If I go for the equinox before finishing w4, should greenstacks be a priority for the easier mats / resources?

[true hamlet]

If I really wanted to, I could probably print frog legs and bean slices but I'm lazy

[zenith hare]

yes, and w4 shop healing food

ehh

people say its hard...it isnt too bad

yes it scales a lot, but it scales with ur account

[true hamlet]

I mean, it's doable, at least the first 3 or 4

[zenith hare]

can def do 4/5 of the first 5 semi easily in w4

[atomic fable]

W4 healing food might be quite hard with limited coins

[zenith hare]

and the "hardest" one is rank 30 in refinery

just cause thats time locked

[coarse cape]

Hey, I'll admit I haven't paid much attention to Breeding for a while now, but I'd really like to push to open Frosty Peaks to grab the current rotation of lab items and unlock more recipes. Currently running a 4 pet team of Defender, Fleeter, Cursory, Mercenary, all around 6k power
https://i.imgur.com/9bJc5fq.png

[true hamlet]

400 killroy isn't that bad

[zenith hare]

whats the latest pet you have unlocked?

[true hamlet]

Does it not heal you way over half health?

[zenith hare]

its for the easy gstack

[true hamlet]

Yeah

[coarse cape]

Boards, Sandcastles, and the Purple Mushrooms

[atomic fable]

it does, it's for the gstack reason

[zenith hare]

just a fyi: overhealing exists for afk sessions

even if you had 1 max hp, better food would help

[true hamlet]

Cupcakes does active

[zenith hare]

aim to get nutto unlocked in w1

[zenith hare]

they dont overheal, they just full heal

[true hamlet]

I mean, it helps I guess

But w4 might be overkill

[atomic fable]

I actually more often than not never hit the threshold for the healing food to activate

at least on DK

[zenith hare]

btw: use mercenary, miasma, refiller, borger (nutto) to unlock the 5th pet slot when you do get it

[atomic fable]

I only use 1 healing food just for it to be 100% survivability in the event of a crash or gtg

[coarse cape]

Will try, unfortunately at a 1/55 chance on unlocking toads

[zenith hare]

then you should be able to win via looter, mercenary, refiller, cursoury, borger. (can try and remove cursoury now and that may work for the fight)

but borger is VERY important

it has a base 20x hp passive

it is the tank in the front lines

youre at the territories where you either need to not get hit at all, or use borger

but you need 5 pet slots with snelbie in w2 pets to not get hit at all

so borger is the quickest way

[coarse cape]

Thanks. Any advice for getting to Nuttos faster? I know very little about breeding but from looking at this, seems like my only real way to improve chances is farming up green dna and upgrading genetic multi

https://i.imgur.com/aiiGAGC.png

[shadow lark]

thats giga easy gainz with green dna

[true hamlet]

Cooking helps

The new pet odds helped me quite a bit

[coarse cape]

Yeah, have Donuts lv 8, Pizza lv 11, Frenk Fries lv 12, throwing everything on Donuts for now

[zenith hare]

use the splicer to help

and getting better cooking helps a lot too

[coarse cape]

I can get the green dna with just the Sappy DNA Splicer from the store, right? And just afk with ES or something at Green Mush?

[zenith hare]

frogs would be better, but yeah

you want the highest kph map in the world, and frogs is roughly 1.8x more then gmush

[atomic fable]

Is it worth it for me to try to unlock anvil tab 4?

During w4

[zenith hare]

not really

it has nearly nothing of use minus weapons

[shadow lark]

i unlocked that today lol

[zenith hare]

not till late w5 anyways

[atomic fable]

and tools or?

[zenith hare]

tools costs a lot of salt

and starfire tools cost a lot of pearler shells

armour is worse then chiz armour too

[true hamlet]

W4+ is just salts and rarer drops

[atomic fable]

Oh, so maybe avoid tab 4 for now?

[zenith hare]

for now yeah

save it for an easier time

[atomic fable]

either way, I can't easily get frigid souls yet

[true hamlet]

Firgid souls will have more use for weapons anyways

Frigid*

I just spammed party starters and boulder rollers and 1 kraken and got to 40

[atomic fable]

I still haven't got flycicles yet

[true hamlet]

Once you get past wave 20, wave 40 is quite easy

[chrome herald]

Should I make bloodbone 5*

[atomic fable]

Should I consider pushing my SB through world 3?

[true hamlet]

If you can hit killer brightside

[atomic fable]

I can only hit it with 6 rn

so I'd have to halt the entire w4 push if I do so

[shadow lark]

not worth

whatd you need them for, void boots?

[atomic fable]

1 thing is to unlock the 6th shrine (Construction)

[zenith hare]

not worth the gems

[atomic fable]

alongside a few things in the anvils

[coarse cape]

Bubo gets like, 80k kills/hr at green frogs, that seems about right?

[true hamlet]

Bubo sucks afk

[zenith hare]

equip some move speed potions really quick

[chrome herald]

I have the cardifiers already the free ones

[zenith hare]

can save them for a better card

[true hamlet]

Wait for w7 if you really want

[chrome herald]

Like what

[zenith hare]

a small damage boost will only cost you gems, cause crystal spawn chance cards are mega needed

[coarse cape]

It was higher than my ES, but down to check something else if you have an idea what would be top kph early W5

[zenith hare]

there are only 2, genies and poop

each cost ab 450 gems to get to 5*

well genie more at point in progression that you want it, as 4* takes a month or so active

so a 4* used on it and a 5*

[atomic fable]

I have both genie and poop unlocked in cards

[zenith hare]

both 5*?

[atomic fable]

No, only 0* an 1* rn

[atomic fable]

I'm still in w4 progression wise

[night sable]

early w3...

[coarse cape]

92k kph with speed pots

[shadow lark]

i thought i was going crazy because it took so long lol

[zenith hare]

theres an accidental extra 0 on the cards dr

which equates to like 20x less common with how the formula works

[shadow lark]

spent all day getting it to 3* and then said fuck it and bought 4*

i wish i could see my crystal chance

[zenith hare]

basically just save them, damage isnt an issue till late w5

[shadow lark]

idk how accurate tome is

[zenith hare]

acc is a far bigger issue, but there are many free solutions

[night sable]

acc do be cringe yeah

[shadow lark]

free solution: vman

[night sable]

def too but that's solved by not afking

[shadow lark]

oh wait this is w3 nvm

[zenith hare]

obols, gear, tools, cards, card sets, w1/2 clickers, dungeons, prayers, star signs, talents, stamps, PO boxes all the easy solutions

[zenith hare]

or any healing food

[night sable]

oh true that upgrade exists

i havent used it yet so i forgot about it

[atomic fable]

For me, while I don't need it for active, it's still good to have 1 healing food equipped for 100% in case a crash happens

or a crystal spawn happens

[zenith hare]

#1132369485513371758 message have a quick read of this

[night sable]

even crystal spawns

[zenith hare]

the biggest sentence there

[atomic fable]

On my DK, I only have yeti hams as my healing food, which is more than enough for 100% survivability, allowing me to use boost foods, which is ideal, right?

[zenith hare]

its just a matter of how long you can afk with that food in one session

[atomic fable]

True, I do have the automation enabled for food

[cold wraith]

then forever

[atomic fable]

if that's enabled, it'll be up to your storage chest amount, right? (Plus in the slot)

[zenith hare]

ye

[rapid osprey]

What should my mining efficiency be when I'm around mining level 40? Its about 21k right now and I need 25 for void ore to continue my alchemy vials

[zenith hare]

skill level isnt representative to efficency

could be level 60 fishing and still have worse fishing eff then someone whose level 30

[west ingot]

is rift good? i need 1 more battery to get there

[atomic fable]

Oh, batteries is required

[atomic fable]

Ooh, that doesn't seem so bad

[west ingot]

its not if you active should only take a day, its 1/50k chance for batteries but its front page so easy for es

[atomic fable]

Alright

I already had 3 from elite class pushing

[zenith hare]

+1 done

[bronze moth]

I grind on dk since he's the pusher and I'm too lazy to get any other char out of lab

[sleek stone]

yeah lol other char just goin to be storage chest

[atomic fable]

Is it worth it once I can reach brightside with 5 characters to free either maestro or es?

for either skilling or monster drops

[cerulean meteor]

should probably be vboy by then, but i think so for monster drops

[atomic fable]

Oh, the vman class?

[obsidian sorrel]

note to self, the rift breaks very often on death bringer and nobody else 😭

third time detonation blew up my computer

fitting name

[shut hull]

if you want to check #bug-reports-🐛 they might have a report for that

[atomic fable]

Is this possible with dk only at 760k damage?

wrong damage amount, my bad, corrected it

[shut hull]

they have 3m hp so I would doubt it

[atomic fable]

if I was to have auto on, they'd all respawn nearly immediately

[shut hull]

Take divine intervention off then

that's the hand one that respawns mobs btw

[covert fractal]

seems weird that you can only have one pack available for gem purchase at a time

[atomic fable]

Oh, I see

I'll give the quest a try

[shut hull]

#1034916101160714371 or #player-suggestions if you want

[atomic fable]

If it's not possible to gain points overtime, I'll reequip it

[clever berry]

What is the most optimal cog board layout with zen cogs?

Assuming all unlocked

[covert fractal]

was more just discussion than feedback

[shut hull]

then #idleon-gen-chat

[atomic fable]

550 before 1 respawned, is that enough?

[shut hull]

That should be plenty yes

Haven't done that one myself though

[white path]

all exp

[atomic fable]

yeah, I'm gaining, I can do the quest 😄

[clever berry]

Yeah I figured that - Was more wondering about placement. Is it really suboptimal to leave in my other characters rather than let them get con xp?

[clever berry]

what about build rate % on the arrowed ones?

[white path]

xp

[clever berry]

okie

[white path]

they still get xp when producing cogs just a lot less

[atomic fable]

Or at least I was...

yeah, it seems like after the 1st 2 times, my DK is not keeping up with the respawns

[covert fractal]

oof. completely forgot about stamps

[shut hull]

Sad

[atomic fable]

Is it normal for that quest to be so hard when you 1st unlock it?

[shut hull]

Idk

[covert fractal]

what quest?

[shut hull]

Depends on when you first unlock it I guess

[bronze moth]

i've almost unlocked maestro

[atomic fable]

This one

[covert fractal]

yeah some can be nigh imossible to beat when you get them

[atomic fable]

It was promising at 1st getting to 550, but then it started gradually falling

yeah, I need more damage it seems like

[wild dagger]

Hi guys
How can i get a talent lvl to be 200+

[covert fractal]

gonna need to spend a lot of time upgrading your bookshlef

[zenith hare]

getting the fury artifact from sailing

that's the break point for people

[robust marsh]

What class should I get on my 8th charector? I have every elite class with Maestro

[zenith hare]

that or have rift slug