To be fair, you could wait to do skilling in w5 if you plan to only push when you have gotten nobisect, there will be plenty of time for you to rotate through your characters to do skilling then
#midgame-chat-w3🧊w4🔮
true hamlet
atomic fable
It applies to all of them at the same rate
sudden wadi
only in storage
eager sphinx
only in storage
Sad
uneven obsidian
once you get ram, you can do that from anywhere
atomic fable
To be fair, you could wait to do skilling in w5 if you plan to only push when yo...
True
dark siren
Cool I'll keep pushing my shrine levels alongside unlocking stuff; thanks!
true hamlet
A few shrines is fine but get the buildings and towers up too.. don't get stuck at frosty
shy ruin
A few shrines is fine but get the buildings and towers up too.. don't get stuck ...
literally me, stuck at frosty
true hamlet
rustic elbow
should i try finish grasslands pets unlocking or start on the 2nd row (though i haven't got splicer for them)
sudden wadi
first row first
rustic elbow
fair
getting crushed by dr defecus teritory, but i guess just slowly grind more unlocks and eventually make it through
just got carot
sudden wadi
there's a upgrade that lowers the requirements for the next worlds pets depending on how many pets you have unlocked in the previous world
so as an example
if you have 15 pets unlocked in w1 breeding
then your w2 breeding will have 15x better odds on getting the next pet
rustic elbow
oh wow thats huge
getting splice dna thingy is so slow though haha, at least I got bredability recently to help
sudden wadi
its an example so its not exactly like how i described it but you get what i mean
rustic elbow
yea makes sense though
true hamlet
You could try to go to crabcakes if you wanted though
dark siren
looking at my refinery rate, and that frikken 27 caps per hour, I guess I basically just need to set one of my chars permagrinding spore caps for a while to build buffer 
true hamlet
looking at my refinery rate, and that frikken 27 caps per hour, I guess I basica...
That's how it is
dark siren
Good job for the hunter I guess... I play her actively anyway
sudden wadi
that's actually his whole job
sudden wadi
Good job for the hunter I guess... I play her actively anyway
even once you complete the game he will still be doing that
dark siren
tbh I believe it lol
true hamlet
Realistically, they don't have much to do at w3
dark siren
Now I understand why I always see piles of people on that map
I was getting nuget cakes then glass shards, now golden plops for my next set of "good" gear
sudden wadi
its not for that
dark siren
Gotcha, and once I get the golden plops for upgraded mage staffs I'll start pushing progress in W3 again
true hamlet
And forge actually
true hamlet
Smelting erryday archer talent
dark siren
Ahhhhhh right
Yeahhh she's gonna be busy
at least that's one less "now, what do I do with THIS char" question XD
rugged elm
Can someone help?
On toolbox i saw “trimmed” time for my buildings
My building would be 9 days but trimmed is 1
How do i “trim”?
true hamlet
Gemstone and atom collider
true hamlet
hehe
rugged elm
Well then thanks
true hamlet
I have neither
vestal ether
Does cooking levels only affect the number of ladles you get?
dry jungle
No you only get a little amount of cooking efficiency from it
rustic elbow
what does cooking efficiency even do though? just give more ladles 😂 ?
atomic fable
Wait, does leveling up stuff like Lab give more efficiency?
sudden wadi
Wait, does leveling up stuff like Lab give more efficiency?
lab eff yes
sudden wadi
what does cooking efficiency even do though? just give more ladles 😂 ?
pretty much
theres also skill mastery
so its still worth lvling it
@eager sphinx how many more for dk?
atomic fable
Is it good that I unlocked all my elite classes finally?
atomic fable
I've given SB a good try for a while, and it seems helpful, is it helpful in world 4 however?
atomic fable
Oh, is that the same for BB?
bronze moth
bb is good for cooking (but not when you first get him tho)
sudden wadi
bb is usefull once you get cooking going to a decent point
he is also the main DN farmer
atomic fable
So once I can start to keep brightside with less chracters, should BB start preparing for vman?
sudden wadi
since all of his abilitys go off of how many kills he has
rustic elbow
he is also the main DN farmer
DN?
sudden wadi
Death note
rustic elbow
ah
sudden wadi
So once I can start to keep brightside with less chracters, should BB start prep...
bb dosent need vman
sb does
and you cant get sb up till at least w5 at the latest
atomic fable
I more meant should BB prepare the dn phase of vman
sudden wadi
oh yes
indigo stratus
Meh, sb only needs vman to not feel bad to active
sudden wadi
sb is basically unplayable without vman talent
at least compared to dk or bubo
without vman talent there is better options for what your trying to get
echo radish
vman helps for dk a lot too
indigo stratus
I'd only ever use sb active for the achievement 🤷♀️
echo radish
aka for dr
indigo stratus
Doesn't compete anyway
sleek stone
Does traping bubble affect whole char or only bm?
sleek stone
Ahh so i dont need to equip it to get eff?
sleek pollen
Does traping bubble affect whole char or only bm?
big bubble gotta equip it unless sheepie
true hamlet
^^^
sleek stone
Okay then
sleek pollen
proly one of the few big bubbles to always equip on all your char
true hamlet
The +1 trap?
sleek stone
Alright
true hamlet
The +1 is passive now right? Just equip for eff
sleek pollen
The +1 is passive now right? Just equip for eff
oh right that thing is passive
somber mesa
Is there a particular class I should make my 8th char? I have 1 of each elite and 1 maestro
sleek pollen
DK
sudden wadi
^
true hamlet
oh right that thing is passive
It was a change a while back, only hammer left for +1
sleek pollen
It was a change a while back, only hammer left for +1
ah alr
sleek stone
Damn how to open the third slot on bubble tho?
somber mesa
In that case what classes should 9 and 10 be
sleek pollen
In that case what classes should 9 and 10 be
usually its second ES and SB but with master class releasing soon for archer and mage I'd say let them at base archer and mage
sudden wadi
sb is useless becuase of hole
true hamlet
Damn how to open the third slot on bubble tho?
Pet arena I think
sleek stone
Oh right forgot about that
somber mesa
usually its second ES and SB but with master class releasing soon for archer and...
Thanks. I'm only at account lvl 750 rn so I got plenty of time anyways
sleek pollen
Pet arena I think
wave 100 at that
true hamlet
sb is useless becuase of hole
I mean, probably sb since bm is active class and 3 archers for more versatility instead of 4 warriors 2 archers
sleek stone
wave 100 at that
latent cliff
Someone told me I should get SB. I have yet to active him for any reason. What is his purpose other than gmush?
sleek pollen
I mean, probably sb since bm is active class and 3 archers for more versatility ...
I mean SB is kinda-ish active as well
sleek pollen
Someone told me I should get SB. I have yet to active him for any reason. What i...
plunder kills that gives drop rate
true hamlet
Yeah.. but I gurss higher damage and better afk rates right?
echo radish
bb is best for afk still
indigo stratus
has anyone ever tried all vman run, 8 vmans?
echo radish
has anyone ever tried all vman run, 8 vmans?
10 and yes
true hamlet
bb is best for afk still
Between the archers?
sleek pollen
10 and yes
how is that acc going?
echo radish
Between the archers?
yes bb is the best archer fr
echo radish
how is that acc going?
idk ask the people who have done it
sleek pollen
has anyone ever tried all vman run, 8 vmans?
yeah for sure there's plenty and enough of crazy peeps capable of doing that, might gotta search around in the serv
sleek pollen
idk ask the people who have done it
ah fk I think I'm thinking of someone else then 
latent cliff
plunder kills that gives drop rate
Yeah but how much dr are you really getting near the mid-high end? Plunderous mobs are far worse to farm then orb or wormhole
echo radish
ah fk I think I'm thinking of someone else then <:IdleHMMMM:666624745118236674>
bro how r u confusing me with other people after all this time 
somber mesa
Is it beneficial to have more than 1 vman
sleek pollen
no
sudden wadi
no
sleek pollen
Yeah but how much dr are you really getting near the mid-high end? Plunderous mo...
oh yeah its extremely annoying to farm, about dr you get idk gotta ask a late/end game player
sleek pollen
bro how r u confusing me with other people after all this time <:NOOO:8558204636...
no but I remember you and ash talking about j/m/vman only acc.
latent cliff
oh yeah its extremely annoying to farm, about dr you get idk gotta ask a late/en...
Yeah, always too many active classes to choose from I can never convince myself to sit down for a week for 40% dr
echo radish
Yeah, always too many active classes to choose from I can never convince myself ...
its for after ur kinda done with dk anyways
fair patrol
anyone have a spice build that includes the very last one? struggling on getting higher speesds
sleek pollen
echo radish
anyone have a spice build that includes the very last one? struggling on getting...
#midgame-chat-w3🧊w4🔮 message its also the first pinned message
echo radish
<:IdleHMMMM:666624745118236674>
lol my ss was old
sleek pollen
or you know throw him the spreadsheet guide 
sudden wadi
echo radish
or you know throw him the spreadsheet guide <:happytroll:1208199310777393153>
that doesnt have what he asked for
sleek pollen
same setup anyway kinda
echo radish
he said most current spices + hes struggling
echo radish
same setup anyway kinda
no
sleek pollen
kinda
echo radish
its different
sleek pollen
sleek pollen
its different
sure bbg
atomic fable
Is this a good start from just unlocking it not too long ago? (Been trying to build this up)
alpine moat
which cauldron has the alchemy bubble that increases defense
sleek pollen
<:huh:1331792682992926750>
atomic fable
which cauldron has the alchemy bubble that increases defense
Orange, and it's fmj
sleek pollen
which cauldron has the alchemy bubble that increases defense
orange, 9th bubble
alpine moat
ty
sleek pollen
Is this a good start from just unlocking it not too long ago? (Been trying to bu...
early w4 you shouldn't farm plunder 
its a pain with vman enhancement and you wanna do it without it? gl
atomic fable
Oh, so I should probably stop until vman?
echo radish
bro if ur not w6 with crystal farming done you shouldnt be touching that
sleek pollen
out of the 3 elite with pow stack sb is hardest, surely you can do ES or DK for bit of bonus already
atomic fable
Okay, so I'm not really getting much on SB for a while in w4 and possibly later?
sudden wadi
which means you have to progess half way through w5 at least
your sb probably wont work till w6 most likely
atomic fable
Is it worth maybe planning to unlock vman at late world 4?
glacial turtle
anyone got the image for lab boosting stuff
reef oak
My iphone 13 cant handle ie auto review and I keep forgetting to cyeck on my desktop lol. My progress is still at early w3 when im mid w4
reef oak
Is it worth maybe planning to unlock vman at late world 4?
Still need 1m deaths till w3 mobs Would take forever
sleek pollen
Is it worth maybe planning to unlock vman at late world 4?
w5 at least for another x2 kill bonus
sudden wadi
Is it worth maybe planning to unlock vman at late world 4?
vman is gettable in w4 but most dont get him till w5
sleek pollen
anyone got the image for lab boosting stuff
like what boost
atomic fable
vman is gettable in w4 but most dont get him till w5
Okay, so I should maybe wait until I get both of the x2 boosts?
from lab and another thing in w5
glacial turtle
i saw an image earlier that went over skills, items and cards that work on skilling, with some other advice but i didnt think to save it at the time
sudden wadi
if you want to get your bb on DN right now that up to you but personally i would keep him in lab because it will be more worth it to you then vman is
sleek pollen
i saw an image earlier that went over skills, items and cards that work on skill...
?wiki Laboratory just go check for yourself then, its on the bottom
cursive walrusBOT
https://idleon.wiki/wiki/Laboratory just go check for yourself then, its on the bottom
rain scroll
doing rift kinda sucks xD
atomic fable
I probably should get at least brightside with 5 characters before considering it
right?
sleek pollen
ye for sure
glacial turtle
i found it
shy ruin
yay 9 digits
sudden wadi
no
sleek stone
i found it
Damn i should consider makin serated rex on all my char
shy ruin
Is it bad that my mk is way lower on my SB than my DK / ES
what's mk actually
glacial turtle
yea they good easy to make too
sleek stone
Multi kill
shy ruin
oh
sudden wadi
kill the tree house
sleek stone
yea they good easy to make too
Yea fr gonna make it
shy ruin
well tbf sb relies on active abilities so
sleek stone
I got it earlier so noe easy to craft
sudden wadi
well tbf sb relies on active abilities so
so does es and dk
sleek stone
One thing not is dungeon flurbos
rain scroll
only bm/bb/vman is afk
sleek stone
I done it this week
glacial turtle
ah that sucks
rain scroll
db is active
sleek stone
Yeah
sudden wadi
db is active
depends
sleek stone
Flurbos sucks to get
shy ruin
so does es and dk
yeah but dk and es have relatively higher attack damage, the one in "player stats", at least for me
atomic fable
for me, my es is nearly at 1 million damage, is that really high for w4?
sudden wadi
no
sleek stone
Nope
shy ruin
nope
atomic fable
Oh, low?
sleek stone
2M is enough
sudden wadi
avg
shy ruin
mid
sleek stone
With the crit
shy ruin
not really low but mid
you can't really "die" during the boss fight so damage output is a big thing in w4
rain scroll
1m is enough for troll
sleek stone
Yeah 1m is enough tho
rain scroll
troll doesnt dmg u
sleek stone
With lightning could do 10-15m
atomic fable
is these stamp levels good for world 4 or could I get them higher?
rain scroll
always get them higher if u can
atomic fable
I do see a lot of blue ones, those are upgradable
sudden wadi
try to get every stamp available
atomic fable
There's 1 stamp locked behind 1 million followers that's a huge pain to do
and another stamp that I was trying to do on my SB with the 1k stars
shut hull
There's 1 stamp locked behind 1 million followers that's a huge pain to do
Get ES (in w4) and it should be easier
forest portal
get every thing higher exapt for the first few stamps in skills
atomic fable
Alright
rain scroll
also more stamps = more dmg for es
atomic fable
my DK is about 500k with x1.5, Should I try to get him better weapons for world 4?
sleek stone
Yes
atomic fable
Alright, I think I should try to prioritise that
sleek stone
Try to hit 600k if your still low stage
for faster kill
And use some monster exp card if enough dmg and acc
atomic fable
Oh right, it was melty cubes I was missing for the ice weapon
atomic fable
would dk or es be better to farm 7k melty cubes?
sudden wadi
es
atomic fable
Alright
shy ruin
im getting 1.5m kill/h
crazy
rain scroll
es best for monster mats
sudden wadi
and cards
rain scroll
sneaking mastery will be nice
forest portal
for lavaq skull who do u use?
forest portal
but doesnt he kill evry thing in the map?
forest portal
l did with 1 sb my other one is to weak
sudden wadi
well it depends how fast does your bubo respawn the enemys?
rain scroll
try db maybe
shy ruin
total on 10 chars
that's still crazy
forest portal
ok
rain scroll
sb best
true hamlet
But sb needs vman enhancement
forest portal
l try boubo
rain scroll
bubo is fine but it can also nuke whole map all the time
sudden wadi
db wipes the map
if you keep your grave away then no
true hamlet
if you keep your grave away then no
Effort hehe
rain scroll
ye just place it at top or bottom
or just give ur gear of 1st sb to 2nd and do it? @forest portal
atomic fable
Is this good? I actually managed to reach the boost with 6 characters!
atomic fable
I don't relaly have many pixels to spare, but I can try
rain scroll
its ok if u dont reach labkill yet as it will be useful only when ur 1 char can be out
glacial turtle
you dont need this
atomic fable
Okay, Fixed it, this better?
forest portal
is it ok if boubo poisen dotn one shot?
rain scroll
its good it gives free bubble levels
atomic fable
This is actually with my dk in lab too, which made this harder (it's lower level than my es)
rain scroll
is ur bubo on rightmost?
atomic fable
Yes it is
rain scroll
and do u have the skill which gives more xp on left char?
glacial turtle
is the bm skill that gives breeding time on kill effected by multi kill
atomic fable
Yes if it's this
atomic fable
I know it's not level 100 (I could've, but diminishing returns and I also wanted to get the other talent that gave bubo xp by himself)
atomic fable
Oh... I forgot to get a few points on that when I did the 2nd reset after the purple tube test
rain scroll
do some skilling on bubo
of other types ie mining/fishing/catching
a few levels will give some points to spend
atomic fable
due to the way it's setup, I'd only lose brightside
by temporarily placing him on 1 of those skills
rain scroll
ye and u cant use it anyway rn cuz u have all char in
atomic fable
All except 1 - es
rain scroll
brightside only useful when 1 is out
atomic fable
I have 7 characters, I was able to reach it with 6 in the end
rain scroll
oo cool then
rain scroll
do u have equinox?
atomic fable
i don't have equinox yet
rain scroll
oook
in there fishing gives ez levels
reach lv 30 easily in some mins (but can only active)
atomic fable
it's why I'm excluding fishing, it'll take too long right now to gain any meaningful points
rain scroll
u can use balloons on anything
atomic fable
True
rain scroll
mining/fishing/catching they all give a few points in some balloons
true hamlet
No balloons on lab and div
atomic fable
What would be best to use balloons on? (Except lab and breeding)
shy ruin
What would be best to use balloons on? (Except lab and breeding)
imo cooking cuz it levels very slowly
atomic fable
Okay, this is bad, Fishing isn't giving skill points for bubo, is this usual?
glass folio
What would be best to use balloons on? (Except lab and breeding)
what would be best for you? unknown
I personally used balloons to level all my characters to 50 cooking since training the other skills are fairly easy already
rain scroll
cooking is needed to be ballooned only so do it to lv 20
use 5 balloons and catching and do cooking to lv 20 u will have some points
iron jay
Okay, Fixed it, this better?
are you still fight with lab?
atomic fable
I was planning to use my es to grind melty cubes
shy ruin
Okay, this is bad, Fishing isn't giving skill points for bubo, is this usual?
non specialized skills only give points every few levels i think
atomic fable
so for bubo, specialized skills would be Chopping, Alchemy and Lab
shy ruin
Yep
iron jay
I was planning to use my es to grind melty cubes
ES is good choice. It's the best farmer for base mob materials
atomic fable
It did eventually give me +1 point, but it took multiple levels
atomic fable
Ooh, that makes more sense now, also, leveling up cooking is not giving me any talent points, is this usual?
iron jay
every 5 skill lvl is must (for tab 4)
atomic fable
even after 10 levels, it's given +0, is this usual?
iron jay
hm, which tab?
atomic fable
I even checked the star talents, which also was +0 when doing it on cooking
atomic fable
I see, that's a bit strange with cooking
iron jay
let me experiment with it...
Cooking LVL 18 - Star Points 777
Now use balloons...
Cooking LVL 38 - Star Points 777
So, seems outdated info in community guide
atomic fable
Oh, so I found something new with changes?
iron jay
Last update was 12/07/24, so maybe not so new, haha
iron jay
I see, either way, at least I found 1 outdated info?
Yep
atomic fable
While I still have my skilling gear on, is it worth it to print the world 4 logs? (Along with reprints)
sudden wadi
@eager sphinx progress? we at dk yet?
formal flume
Just got my fourth breeding slot, what class should that be? ive been using (left to right) merc, curse, defend
true hamlet
While I still have my skilling gear on, is it worth it to print the world 4 logs...
If you have empty slot why not?
atomic fable
Is tropical logs useful in world 4?
if it isn't, I can swap that for the world 4 logs
true hamlet
I think alien is more useful, check wiki to find out
Alien is for stamp and money% bubble, should be more useful
atomic fable
Alright, is 82k oak log print beneficial for World 4?
true hamlet
Great start
atomic fable
Ended up being 84k because I forgot to equip the efficiency card set lol
shy ruin
oh god 2 giants
stark kestrel
Ended up being 84k because I forgot to equip the efficiency card set lol
Did u do star signs and food :^)
atomic fable
I did
I was going to leave this out, but I decided to just craft it, this should help the world 4 logs, right?
true hamlet
Should've grinded neyeptune giants for those black lenses.. need a million after all
Or the void weapons for a start
atomic fable
Well, I don't think it improved it very much, but at least it's more efficient for what I can do in world 4, right? (85k)
shy ruin
Should've grinded neyeptune giants for those black lenses.. need a million after...
tf you need a million for
atomic fable
Is 5.6k alien logs really good for w4 right now?
Does brightside affect monster drops?
true hamlet
Does brightside affect monster drops?
No
atomic fable
Okay, good to know, so only drop rate and mk does
true hamlet
Just putting it out there , pearlers more important
Gotta max pearler and hampter vials
echo radish
Does brightside affect monster drops?
litteraly says it that it doesnt
sleek stone
I just met lava lol
atomic fable
Oh, I must've missed that
sleek stone
Why achievement not listed
true hamlet
Steam?
young zinc
finally unlocked 6 slots of the 3d printer and i have 6 characters, 2 of each class, what should i be printing
shy ruin
should i upgrade to bottom half chizoar or keep it as void
i already have chizoar top half
or lustre bottom half but that requires me to get more frigid souls and im stuck at frosty firefight
atomic fable
Wait, since when did I hit 1.1m damage? Am I doing really well for world 4?
stable parcel
should i upgrade to bottom half chizoar or keep it as void
Do you NEED defense? Don't upgrade if you don't need to. You don't need lustre/void/chizoar at all to get to w5
true hamlet
Wait, since when did I hit 1.1m damage? Am I doing really well for world 4?
That's fine for w4, should end with around 1.5 to 2m
sleek stone
Btw he big
atomic fable
Counting mk, with frost flakes, I can gain up to 6 per 1
since I have brightside active
Which is a huge boost, right?
atomic fable
So far, I've only seen the requirement of chow for Barbarian
sleek stone
Pushing also
true hamlet
Chows zows superchows and wows is a barb thing
atomic fable
I think I might go for the w5 push once I reach 1m max damage on DK, that a good plan?
true hamlet
Sounds fine
true hamlet
Start pushing, print damage bubble mats and you'll hit it
atomic fable
I can't reach brightside right now with only 5 characters, I can only get it with 6
true hamlet
Might want to books some things like str tested garbs or effect of str on dmg
true hamlet
I can't reach brightside right now with only 5 characters, I can only get it wit...
You decide how you want to do it I guess
sleek stone
Or maestro go lab
atomic fable
It's why I'm going for the ice weapon 1st as it's a weapon power increase
sleek stone
Thats the onlything you could do
atomic fable
I only have 7 characters and he's part of the 6
sleek stone
Damn
true hamlet
You could temporarily trade out xp gain for line width on bubo if you really wanted
sleek stone
Yeah that too
atomic fable
I do have an idea what line width I need for 5 characters: around 90-95 pixels
true hamlet
Or try to get pancakes in cooking but might be a bit hard
sleek stone
Yeah would take time
true hamlet
Or just 🐳 a souped up lab tube
sleek stone
atomic fable
I could buy gems, but that would be quite early for it
true hamlet
Was a joke, just wait a bit
sleek stone
Yeah just stop doin other thing to lvl up lab
atomic fable
I do also need to start considering pushing my es through w3 maps
sudden wadi
its a idle game it takes time
atomic fable
if I want to get this weapon, is it worth it?
atomic fable
true, that's why I'm not really rushing world 4
true hamlet
if I want to get this weapon, is it worth it?
Frost is more than enough for w4 and 5
Just do a bit of alch and stamps and you'll be fine
shy ruin
Do you NEED defense? Don't upgrade if you don't need to. You don't need lustre/v...
i need damage
sudden wadi
Is w5 boss hard on mechanic?
with dk no
sleek stone
Damn
sudden wadi
es works to
sleek stone
Yeah
sudden wadi
anyone with aoe skills will do the trick
so vman is useless
(untill like min 5 shot)
atomic fable
Is this good? Alchemy gave me an extra 15% (190% -> 205%)
sleek stone
Damn my main are es tho but gotta catch up to w6 so yeah dk then
true hamlet
Is this good? Alchemy gave me an extra 15% (190% -> 205%)
Should start pushing at 2x or 3x, go go go
atomic fable
This is on world 3 btw with frost
true hamlet
Haha
sudden wadi
Damn my main are es tho but gotta catch up to w6 so yeah dk then
use es then
true hamlet
I just saw the hp
sleek stone
Nah dk spawn rate faster
true hamlet
Best part about pushing w4 with ES is you can 1 shot the troll with very low damage.. don't have to play his weird games more than once
sleek stone
Fr just úse those hands
sudden wadi
youll reach 80m crit way before 20m vman but still
sleek stone
you only need 20m damage
20m dmg without crit?
shy ruin
or just use sb cannonball which deals 10x your regular damage
sleek stone
Maybe after craftin my w2 trophy
true hamlet
Or just use bubo chem to do a fraction of your damage
sudden wadi
^^^^^^^^ best option right there ^^^^^^^^
sleek stone
Damn true
Bubo are fun too
But bubo need to be lab jail
So nah
Divinity didnt gibe exp
atomic fable
Okay, I can get the ice hammer now
Any idea how to fix this?
my prints aren't high enough to have all 3 on at the same time
sudden wadi
atomic fable
Alright, is the ranks good btw?
atomic fable
I do have royal sampler
sudden wadi
ok then lvl it up and retake prints
atomic fable
I've not done it for bm for a while, I'm trying to get the next mk tier for giga frogs
true hamlet
I've not done it for bm for a while, I'm trying to get the next mk tier for giga...
Park 1 guy at gmush and 1 at giga frogs.. it's going to be painful until you get vman
atomic fable
then I can't reach brightside
covert fractal
what do cooking levels do?
true hamlet
I rushed to w6 and got vman really quickly so it wasn't too hard for me
true hamlet
what do cooking levels do?
Cooking eff I think?
covert fractal
cooking eff?
true hamlet
I think so?
covert fractal
what's that?
sudden wadi
gives you more ladles
covert fractal
ah. the cooking seems slow to me
sudden wadi
thats pretty much it other then somthing else for later in the game
it is slow at first
it slowly ramps up in speed
true hamlet
Slow then fast the slams the breaks at lvl 100+ .. for now
covert fractal
wondering how it speeds up
true hamlet
wondering how it speeds up
Multitool and ladle stamp
sudden wadi
BB
sudden wadi
all things you dont need to or even can worry about rn
covert fractal
now to figure out how to increase accuracy again
sudden wadi
star signs and cards my friend
atomic fable
I think this can maintain red with the lab boost, right?
sudden wadi
also shaq bubble
atomic fable
by itself
glacial turtle
ah. the cooking seems slow to me
you can upgrade the kitchen tables if you didnt know that yet
covert fractal
you can upgrade the kitchen tables if you didnt know that yet
don't have the spices
atomic fable
I lose 1.17k spores per hour right now
and... wait, This maintains orange and red if I don't have the 3x speed boost
true hamlet
Def not the sand
glacial turtle
you do, just do breeding, the right most kitchen uses the earliest spice you can get
covert fractal
huh. ok
shy ruin
I think this can maintain red with the lab boost, right?
what kind of helmet is that
covert fractal
didn't know the kitchens used spices depending on their position
atomic fable
Platinum
true hamlet
Plat yeah
cunning ruin
Any advice on how to do pet arena wihtout lag? Once I reach wave 120ish i start lagging like crazy because of RNG choosing shiny I think, ~130 it turns into a slideshow
glacial turtle
didn't know the kitchens used spices depending on their position
yea i missed it to that's why i tell people
sudden wadi
you got high performance on?
cunning ruin
yes
sudden wadi
the rng from looter i assume?
cunning ruin
yes
sudden wadi
you could just replace him with another rattler
it wouldnt be as fast but it would reduce the lag
atomic fable
Was able to get my mman to print 534 pocket sands, is this good?
white lintel
Basically any non vman monster print won’t be good for anything but refinery
atomic fable
I see
white lintel
Once you hit around 100k kph in w1-3 generally, you can get vman
Just push to w5 for now
atomic fable
There is some good news - I can reach brightside
true hamlet
Yeah, get nobisect first before considering vman
atomic fable
bad news is, I need 6 characters, is this fine?
opaque whale
How do you actually get gems to light up in the lab? I bought a purple gem but it's still dark. Dragging a character near it doesn't seem to do anything
sudden wadi
are you close enough and connected to the system?
opaque whale
aha, okay I was trying to do 2 lines out of the gemstone but idk it'll let me do that
out of the prism* not the gemstone
sudden wadi
works now tho?
opaque whale
yep, figured it out, ty ^^: Sometimes you just gotta ask for it to click
atomic fable
This is the situation with lab: If I go for refinery speed, I can't reach brightside, if I go for brightside, I can't reach refinery speed, am I missing something?
sudden wadi
This is the situation with lab: If I go for refinery speed, I can't reach bright...
nope
young jetty
Is the lab worth pushing immediately?
sudden wadi
thats how lab works untill you get enough line width
sudden wadi
Is the lab worth pushing immediately?
if your in w4 then yes
all guys in no questions asked
atomic fable
If I keep all 7 characters in the lab, then I'm softlocked until I exit the lab with 1 of them
young jetty
if your in w4 then yes
My gear is rotten, one guy is mining dementia so I can get at least one set and start pushing in w4. Beginner is working on skills. But with the rest I can reach three nodes in lab. Those 5 guys haven't opened all rooms in W3 yet, but yes I have W4 town.
shy ruin
This is the situation with lab: If I go for refinery speed, I can't reach bright...
not missing anything, but get your bubo so you can get extra line width
young jetty
Reached W4 with amarok gear basically. But it's not enough anymore
sudden wadi
My gear is rotten, one guy is mining dementia so I can get at least one set and ...
keep them in lab
it will be worth it
young jetty
Thanks
atomic fable
Right now, I have it on green tube, so it's on the furthest right for bubo
shy ruin
Right now, I have it on green tube, so it's on the furthest right for bubo
purple tube > green tube
atomic fable
Wait... Is purple actually more worth it than green?
young jetty
also try to get your shamen elite first
Yeah, I can't do W4 mobs yet because I have inferior gear, I think. I get my ass handed to me in the first room of W4
atomic fable
The main issue is it'd be slower to gain the lab levels for chip slots
trail torrent
The main issue is it'd be slower to gain the lab levels for chip slots
how many chips do you have at the moment
atomic fable
Only 1
trail torrent
bc the chip grind is a bit slow when you first start out
atomic fable
which is an accuracy chip
trail torrent
spices moment
the extra line width is more worth it when starting out. i'd say once you can reach killer brightside comfortably with maybe 5 people, moving bubo along is useful
atomic fable
Here's a fun fact: I tested this earlier with the purple tube - I can reach it with 5 if I use purple tube fully
trail torrent
i think at the moment i have one person on the left for EXP gain (my newest character) and 5 more on the right for line width, and one out farming choccies
and that's only bc i have a cooking gem im trying to abuse but its like, a bit out the way
what's each characters line width px at for you cupcake?
atomic fable
Maestro is 70 px
trail torrent
yeah that'll rise in no time you're early level still
atomic fable
Bubo has the most exp gain compared to the other characters, right?
young jetty
very early
sudden wadi
cupcake do you plan on pushing?
atomic fable
I'm only at around 600k max damage on dk, 1.1m on es
sudden wadi
because you haven't so far and since that there's no point to switch to purple tube
atomic fable
I was pushing afk for a while but I couldn't reach brightside during that period
sudden wadi
then dont
atomic fable
but now that I can hit it, I have to choose between pushing actively or refinery speed
shy ruin
how much damage should i be able to do on dk? i'm at purgatory stalkers
stable parcel
you shouldn't need refinery speed all the time.. it's not that important
young jetty
oooh, progress, I was able to reach one more
sudden wadi
how much damage should i be able to do on dk? i'm at purgatory stalkers
there's no damage minimum
atomic fable
I think with everything considered, the refinery with orange salt production can't keep up with the 3x speed boost from the lab, so I think it makes sense to not bother with it for now?
shy ruin
there's no damage minimum
yeah but i should reach 35m damage by kattlecruk
right now im at 3m-7m on player stats
stable parcel
if you can 1 shot moles then just leave ya dk afk for a day 😮💨
You also have a week worth of portal opening before you get to kruk anyways
sudden wadi
for a person that is at 3-7m rn i dont expect them to have high crit
plus there using dk not es
stable parcel
ya my dk chillin on 15% crit, in w4, but his w5 dk shouldnt have much more than 15 lol
atomic fable
Is this good?
stable parcel
Making me wonder what my dmg will be when i get to kruk.
I never had an issue just going into the fight and killing him as soon as i got to the room
sudden wadi
Is this good?
it will help
stable parcel
Is this good?
Its lab xp 🤷♂️
You need to get garlic to lvl 5 or something for task so it wont hurt to lvl it anyways
but ya you wanna lvl it some before you go to lab jail
or as u are in lab jail
shy ruin
ya my dk chillin on 15% crit, in w4, but his w5 dk shouldnt have much more than ...
15% crit chance?
yeah sounds about right
stable parcel
80 probably for archer
atomic fable
And I unlocked apple on my 2nd try which is defence, useful?
stable parcel
they are all useful cupcake :p
sudden wadi
And I unlocked apple on my 2nd try which is defence, useful?
every buff in this game is useful
stable parcel
the later recipes just take longer to cook though so you wont get to lvl them up as much rn
atomic fable
Okay, good to know, and true
stable parcel
You 'shouldn't' suffer from lack of defense much though after w4. gear shoudl be easier to maintain at a higher standard, accuracy and dmg become the main issue
loud stream
Any voidwalker guide pinned somewhere? Need to know what stats to prio 🙂 Thx
true hamlet
Pancake gives you some good line width, might be able to kick 1 guy out of lba with that
sudden wadi
Any voidwalker guide pinned somewhere? Need to know what stats to prio 🙂 Thx
the top first 4
true hamlet
Any voidwalker guide pinned somewhere? Need to know what stats to prio 🙂 Thx
Just rerun, void radius, bossing vain, quadjab and mkpt if you want
loud stream
the top first 4
And what about the skilling tab, for other people, such as cooking/critters etc...
sudden wadi
bone marrow
start with the atk tab first and do a couple speed runs to get your points up
loud stream
somber depot
I've actived db for 2 and a half days now are these decent stats?
sudden wadi
enchantment for skilling
also book both blood marrow and enchantment
there both very useful
sudden wadi
I've actived db for 2 and a half days now are these decent stats?
for sheepies there avg
iron jay
Tryna focus on acc now
acc is the hardest progression stopper
atomic fable
Is this enough damage to push through most of world 4 on DK?
(This is with some boost foods active)
iron jay
Is this enough damage to push through most of world 4 on DK?
last w4 mob
iron jay
So I probably ideally want more damage?
ideally - oneshot
tbh, you always must want up your dmg
atomic fable
is the crit damage bubble worth it at my stage of the game? (Orange, Bubble 10)
iron jay
is the crit damage bubble worth it at my stage of the game? (Orange, Bubble 10)
if you can afford it - yes
alchemy important in any stage
also stamps
there is no situation, where you can abandon alchemy/stamp
atomic fable
true, it's kinda like that with all skills tbh
sudden wadi
Is this enough damage to push through most of world 4 on DK?
Push through w4 with your dk
He could use the lvls to get a decent amount more damage anyways
Later in the game you can ideally one shot everything but rn you won’t be able to get to that point
sudden wadi
Yup
somber depot
Especially when you're used to not seeing letters whenever you do dmg
Shit feels like ass T-T
iron jay
dmg numbers is annoying
somber depot
Heh
somber depot
dmg numbers is annoying
Hitting those beautiful 10m numbah
Crio
Whats your max stats on reg mode?
Like no wraith js usual stats on a full dmg setup
iron jay
iron jay
You've got me beat in dr n class xp
class xp is my copium
tbh, i'm must do hourly alch, but i'm too lazy
my lvl is meh
rain scroll
ayoo
somber depot
I'm a filthy slacker
iron jay
You're catching up to me fr in terms of dmg
oh, are you mean your dmg is lower?
eager sphinx
<@970058915771478028> progress? we at dk yet?
No, progress is I was sleeping
somber depot
oh, are you mean your dmg is lower?
Nah my full dmg build is at 12qq
sleek stone
anyone that could help on snaker jar quest?
iron jay
anyone that could help on snaker jar quest?
server?
north root
is there a way to increase trap box cap without crafting the box?
sleek stone
gotta stack the candies 😋
turbid stag
is there a way to increase trap box cap without crafting the box?
the trapping big bubble gives you +1 trap
iron jay
is there a way to increase trap box cap without crafting the box?
only this
sleek stone
/btw you guys always have full slot on trapping?
north root
so do i equip this bubble on every person
iron jay
so do i equip this bubble on every person
read desc again
turbid stag
@north root I recommend to work on unlocking new critters and also upgrade traps on all characters
unkempt isle
whats the best map to farm cranium cooking on?
iron jay
whats the best map to farm cranium cooking on?
w5 wurms
unkempt isle
alr thanks
sleek stone
yeah reading is top skill
unkempt isle
what about the soda cans tho?
sleek stone
might want to learn it later
iron jay
what about the soda cans tho?
it's not a best 
sleek stone
sheesh speedrun maestro with minimum candy, whats to upgrade first?
sleek stone
just finish your quest and candies
eager sphinx
I need to know where to put my 42 points
somber depot
1K hit bloques soon
true hamlet
I had a quest I was close to finishing for candies just timegated
Enjoy your sweet sweet cash infusion
eager sphinx
Enjoy your sweet sweet cash infusion
Huh?
sleek stone
I need to know where to put my 42 points
put 1 on bottom right and 5 on statue
5 on orb
true hamlet
Boomerang sucks without damage tbh
true hamlet
5th skill on tab 4 good
sleek stone
get it to 60 for 30%
eager sphinx
Points were thin-
eager sphinx
I... Don't know I liked plus 2 on all talents-
sleek stone
eager sphinx
It made me think it was better than it actually was
Oh well
A DK is a DK just sorta not optimal rn
sleek stone
go for bubo now
eager sphinx
Do I have to active that shaman or can I DK?
eager sphinx
that dk looking just fine
The points were very thin than I though
true hamlet
For w4 and w5, dk for active pushing, es for afk
candid summit
i dont understand breedability... how do i know which pets have it?
true hamlet
Trigo guy is back
eager sphinx
For w4 and w5, dk for active pushing, es for afk
I was meaning afk for it to become bubo it's going to lab after
tribal hound
What item is that egg
dusty apex
i dont understand breedability... how do i know which pets have it?
breedability is the pink pets
true hamlet
Babayaga eggs
dusty apex
you put them in your fenceyard and it increases your chances to unlock the next pet
candid summit
breedability is the pink pets
i dont think theyre pink?
fading rune
What item is that egg
Good luck on the spices
candid summit
true hamlet
I was meaning afk for it to become bubo it's going to lab after
Realistically, only your pusher's talents matter cos you can just inject a lot of xp with each new world
fading rune
The heart pets, that you put in fenceyard. You havent unlocked it yet
dusty apex
candid summit
but they go in the fence yard when none of the others do
dusty apex
its very obvious when you see it
eager sphinx
Realistically, only your pusher's talents matter cos you can just inject a lot o...
True
dusty apex
breedability, normal and shiny
candid summit
sleek stone
cool lookin birds
candid summit
i dont understand why these random pigs and sand pots can go in
dusty apex
i cant remember why but yea dont worry about it, those pets do nothing in there
fading rune
i dont understand why these random pigs and sand pots can go in
It doesn't do anything
fading rune
You need to unlock breedability in the upgrades tab
candid summit
ohh so like
squirrels can never be breedable, but pigs can be so they can go in even if it has no effect?
candid summit
You need to unlock breedability in the upgrades tab
i did
fading rune
But you're not using a breedable pet.
sleek stone
then wait till you get 1
fading rune
Its only the heart ones
candid summit
candid summit
But you're not using a breedable pet.
so then why can i put it in but not a squirrel
is it what i said earlier?
dusty apex
ohh so like
squirrels can never be breedable, but pigs can be so they can go in ...
ignore what you got in there they are mistakes, all pets can be breedability ones
fading rune
You can put it there, but its not doing anything. It's pointless
dusty apex
just keep breeding until they become a pink one with a heart
sleek stone
this breedability
exotic swallow
ignore what you got in there they are mistakes, all pets can be breedability one...
meow
candid summit
but it was allowed to go in when others couldnt
is it a bug then?
sleek stone
this breedability
this
candid summit
i see
but the animals i put in dont have the heart when usually theres an alert stopping me from trying
fading rune
He probably only coded the first few pets to tell you
candid summit
pfft
sleek stone
but the animals i put in dont have the heart when usually theres an alert stoppi...
you got it by using eggs to get other pets
somber umbra
where can i get skilling efficiency obols
candid summit
you got it by using eggs to get other pets
no i didnt they dont have hearts i showed already
exotic swallow
what is going on, what is so confusing
fading rune
I mean it shouldn't matter, the upgrade literally tells you "Breedability Pets" will give you upgrades
exotic swallow
where can i get skilling efficiency obols
alchemy
sleek stone
no i didnt they dont have hearts i showed already
yeah you gotta keep use the egg to get 1
fading rune
Only shinies and heart pets do anything, thats the bottom line
candid summit
turns out this is a bug
candid summit
i was just asking how i got normal pets in
exotic swallow
any pet can get into fenceyard, but normal ones wont give any result
sleek stone
yea
candid summit
any pet can get into fenceyard, but normal ones wont give any result
interesting
especially since others dont let you even try
exotic swallow
what?
u can buy obols from there.
and u have a chance to get chopping, mining, trapping, worship obols.
somber umbra
u can buy obols from there.
and u have a chance to get chopping, mining, trappin...
why would i want to buy these
exotic swallow
where can i get skilling efficiency obols
well 🤷 idk why would you ask this question then
candid summit
skilling efficiency
exotic swallow
there's clearly no obols that would give u straight up skill efficiency
somber umbra
there's clearly no obols that would give u straight up skill efficiency
how far are you into the game
candid summit
no i didnt they dont have hearts i showed already
i was getting frustrated that i wasnt being understood and the wrong question was being answered sorry
candid summit
there's clearly no obols that would give u straight up skill efficiency
meaning not these right?
fading rune
there's clearly no obols that would give u straight up skill efficiency
Not skill efficiency, but fishing power, mining power, speed etc.. yes there is.
exotic swallow
how far are you into the game
I have never seen any obols like that besides stat and chopping/mining/fishing/trapping power etc
exotic swallow
meaning not these right?
that's literally the obols I was talking about
somber umbra
Not skill efficiency, but fishing power, mining power, speed etc.. yes there is.
slushy obols
candid summit
right my bad
fading rune
exotic swallow
slushy obols
oh my bad forgot about those
fading rune
slushy obols
Just check the wiki and see where you can get them from.
somber umbra
Just check the wiki and see where you can get them from.
i didn’t know there were no skilling % obols i already have slush obols
fading rune
Mini Boss obols are obviously once every 4 days, or 7 days for max efficiency
rain scroll
rn im at rift 53 2m/5m kills
robust marsh
Ummmm
robust marsh
goodluck with that
It's on my weakest ch
candid summit
Mini Boss obols are obviously once every 4 days, or 7 days for max efficiency
ohh is that how often they respawn? i was wondering why the slush pile wasnt there after the shop reset time
robust marsh
I can't hit um
candid summit
iirc baba yaga and the dr poo respawn every day
rain scroll
baba yaga every hour
robust marsh
iirc baba yaga and the dr poo respawn every day
Baba yaga respawn each hour but despawns if you are not there at the moment
rain scroll
dr defacus once a day
fading rune
ohh is that how often they respawn? i was wondering why the slush pile wasnt the...
Yes, its not once a day for W3 onwards
candid summit
on god?? i thought once you kill baba yaga you have to wait another day
fading rune
Baba is every hour, Poo is once a day, Doot and Biggie can be any time you have the item
Slush, Mutated Mush, Domeo and Spirit are 4 days, or 7 days for 2
candid summit
shit, i thought it was one kill a day for baba yaga
thas crazy
exotic swallow
u can check that at IT
candid summit
like yeah it spawns every hour but once you fight it at that hour you have to wait for the next shop reset
that wouldve made that task board way faster
rain scroll
baba yaga not worth doing tho i think?
exotic swallow
only if u want the card
somber umbra
i don’t do any mini boss
rain scroll
need to get the jewel
candid summit
baba yaga not worth doing tho i think?
achievements, having fun, some loot, etc
rain scroll
how do i get that egg?
exotic swallow
check wiki
rain scroll
oo its rare drop of him
candid summit
people come for questions answered... we should answer no?
rain scroll
time to recycle some pets cuz im full now
robust marsh
time to recycle some pets cuz im full now
Recycl moltis
fading rune
how do i get that egg?
Breedability pets in the fence yard
rain scroll
recycled 4 molti
candid summit
is it not a baba yaga drop??
exotic swallow
Breedability pets in the fence yard
LMAO
robust marsh
recycled 4 molti
And slimes
somber umbra
is it not a baba yaga drop??
i said that
fading rune
Oh wait I read wrong
exotic swallow
and i thought I flopped
rain scroll
wish me luck for ram
fading rune
mb
candid summit
i said that
exactly
robust marsh
wish me luck for ram
Good luck getting it
exotic swallow
wish me luck for ram
you are going to get doot before ram
candid summit
why laugh when you didnt answer...?
west ingot
wish me luck for ram
Bean incoming
robust marsh
moment of truth i am not seeing the screen
It's a slime
candid summit
how would they know? not fair to laugh
candid summit
wait what the hell
thats such a broken perk holy shit
sleek stone
damn
rain scroll
well we gotta wait for next week now 😦
candid summit
id almost sell that thing for feeling like cheating lmao
almost
sleek stone
in next week youll get it in 1 try
candid summit
i forgor if my pet chance has refreshed yet brb
candid summit
i got a frog
exotic swallow
sleek stone
exotic swallow
I would take doot any time
sleek stone
same
rain scroll
which card do i focus?
exotic swallow
idk u tell us
somber umbra
id almost sell that thing for feeling like cheating lmao
almost
for what
rain scroll
im trying to do skilling cards all plat
exotic swallow
then do so lmao
rain scroll
but what order do i do?
sleek stone
do all
rain scroll
which skill do i start with
exotic swallow
but what order do i do?
order not needed
rain scroll
chopping?
somber umbra
the ram pet feels like itd be cheating so idk if i want it
it’s not really
candid summit
Is it not as op as I think it is?
exotic swallow
its good but it just gives u quick access storage
rain scroll
12h candy will be enough per card i think>
somber umbra
Is it not as op as I think it is?
it’s mainly quality of like
candid summit
its good but it just gives u quick access storage
How does it differ from the usual quick access storage?
somber umbra
How does it differ from the usual quick access storage?
you can actually use the chest from quick access
coarse bobcat
Which day is werkly reset?
exotic swallow
it allows u to use it anywhere
rain scroll
ill even spend 1d candy per card to plat
candid summit
That feels broken to me
It’s simply how I feel I don’t mean to argue the meta
rain scroll
only 13!?
somber umbra
That feels broken to me
It’s simply how I feel I don’t mean to argue the meta
if you say so ig doot is better tho
by miles
rain scroll
rip 20h candy and got only 65 cards 😦
candid summit
if you say so ig doot is better tho
Probably so, but I haven’t been to w5 yet
I also didn’t mean to say it’s the most op pet, just that it felt op
rain scroll
get card build
im using card build
candid summit
I’m tired I must leave o7
exotic swallow
rain scroll
lol cool new stamp
exotic swallow
I should rubify some ngl
rain scroll
what?
rain scroll
thats my vman
exotic swallow
you’re kinda close to me in catching
theres no way you are close to keith
somber umbra
he’s my rival
rain scroll
im noob u r better than me
somber umbra
thats my vman
i did mines too
rain scroll
uuhhhh
somber umbra
there's no way ceb is the same as keith
you’re looking down on keith
rain scroll
a ton of cards lol
somber umbra
keith is on track on being better than me
rain scroll
how do i get alot of smithing cards (forge)
exotic swallow
you cannot get keith to be better than you
somber umbra
how do i get alot of smithing cards (forge)
2 minute claim on sb
fallen ridge
how do i get alot of smithing cards (forge)
copper
somber umbra
yea
somber umbra
you cannot get keith to be better than you
it’s not up to me
exotic swallow
it’s not up to me
what