#midgame-chat-w3๐งw4๐ฎ
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having said that, its your wallet
Should I start saving up right now with gems? (I have 135)
you say that as if you have a ton of spending options already at 135 
true, sorry
this game must be such a pain for f2p
lava loves to make it more of a pain for f2p by shadownerfing boss grinding
I keep getting gems thrown at me when I enter my PC ok? I don't know why possibly achievements, but to me idrc they are free gems thrown at me so what do I used em on
we gotta feed him nevertheless, dont want him to go hungry 
900k WITHOUT ICE HAMMER!!!
the whales more than got that covered
yeah, it's hella annoying
I dont mind having the restart button show up randomly, but the f'in delay
I hate both of the changes, a lot
it takes a lot more time and a lot more attention (which is attention I can't give to the movie/serie I'm watching at the same time to get through that shit)
Damn I thought I was tripping with the boss reset button delay haha
I did spend a couple dollars tho on gems cuz why not-
I had the money and nothing to use it on sooooo 677 gems is yalls budget
Should I avoid npng during elite class push?
you are playing legends of activeon afterall
don't remind me how I'm babysitting my grave placements every almost 5 min
I would avoid it basically always
I played maybe 1hr on DB and put him back to kitchen, I'm not putting up with the graveyard shenanigan
I wanted to rip my hair off
Oh, so it might be worth a talent reset?
and I didnt even make it to w2 for the new bones
I like account bonusses so ยฏ_(ใ)_/ยฏ
well I did max out farming passives with what I had
at what level should i be getting my classes like dk es etc. got my es but it was a challenge with my stamps and bubbles and current armour and my es is a good chunk above my other characters
but I didnt have patience to do boning today
Wait... Shouldnt it say length?
potato potato
I mean the stuff in grimoire
Why would I want a fat wire instead of a longer one?
Line width is how far the line can go in the lab for character connections
yeah I figured you meant grimoire, I wish I could get the opals too + crop evo bonus and what not, but meh
Odd length is normally what I think of when it comes to distance
there are more things, for example top and bottom here
or this one ๐
yeah I meant the top one, didnt really look at the bonuses it gives
u sure u meant top one? cuz this one exists too :p
funny thing is, still can't finish the newly released crops with the update :p we rlly need all that evo chance
wish I hadnt replanted my earthy seeds for the basic ones, I couldve got newer crops already
Farming is w5 right?
no, thats gaming
w6
What do i get w5?
gaming, sailing, divinity
I just got w4 and I am tryna learn w5 XD
divinity being lab 2.0
yeah dont, you have plenty on your plate as is
I think I have more than 1 plate- I think I need to finish the side dish as well-

I was disappointed aswell when I saw how bad bb was 
compared to DK, yeah, big sadge
compared to litterally any other elite
royal guard 


stareoff? 
well atleast the master class made bb see the light of day 
Let him have a quick vacay out of the kitchen
look you just need all the pay2win stat items for BB and he is really good then
mine was banished to the hole but hey u do u :p
but he belongs in the kitchen
Lava proving he is a feminist with BB
how dare you leave your food unattended ?!
then he is also called BLOODBERSERKER youยดd think he is a mean guy , but actually just wants to cook
he deserved a break, when hole released he got banished
i just got into w5 and am overwhelmed too much info for my tiny brain
im sittingg on an altar and bb still cooking , other lads are in lab sleepan
if you just got into w5 then he shouldn't be in kitchen at all yet :p
_>?
early on he is useless in the kitchen
im exhausted i played all day yesterday barely got any sleep dont have the energy to read up everything and decide what to do
just jail with the rest
whats the reasoning behind that btw ?
you need progression in the jails and hes not doing u any favors in the kitchen yet
Is this better for pushing to elite classes?
Should i jail divinity all my people or other in lab?
why do you have 34 pts in the shrooms
For the +1% threshold (2% to 3%)
do you have goat yet
Nope
go all in on divinity, quickly u'll get a god to have lab stuff active, then later u get a god to get divinity progress while ur in the lab so then u go back to lab
I'd grind divinity until goat ngl, then do both jails at the same time
I have 9 for that talent bonus
1000% same,
This is my plan too. and is the best plan
Alrighty guys thank you
goat then 2 week vacay from my pc
why vacay? in those 2 weeks you could be w6
you could still active on 1-2 characters
so everyone should swap from lab now to div jail ?
need a life
eww, a life
how long approx until they are free , will they ever be free , what are we even doing to our characters?! this is madness
oh i'll still active 1 char.. my pc never turns off idleon ๐ค
i want off mr bones ride
so euhm, I'm a late game player... all my guys are jailed 
i see ill do that now then
occido, hows your bravery monument looking?
Respect
only 10k hours but I just finished the 24k justice grind
For prayin 54 hours nonstop
oh you did justice first?
I did
I took my opals from explorer after I got to c9 
my explorer is 15, ready for the 11-15 release 
huuuge 
i need to (finally) upgrade my mat bags
allegedly you did
nobody did and we are still here 
I do not envy new players in w5 having to deal with hole on top of divinity/lab now 
^_O
Ya, no idea how to manage that right now. its a lot of jail time...
anyone farming the sheeps on DB?
Damn do hole hard?
tbf you learn to appreciate jail
I'd appreciate the jails more if I could candy my way through them
poor, poor characters
meh, nah, jail gave me so much time to manage my stuff
same
tho im not end game
i quit bravery jail afer like 13000 hours
i do want to push to 24000 after lab jail
im sure excons agree with your sentiment
I just went back there from 75/40 jail
figured it would be better for jewel/more talent levels from bear god
gotta work towards 5k bravery
eh 5k bravery is meh
I did my fair share of lab jail ๐
do smth else
10k bravery is absolutely huge tho
wdym do something else, I need bravery bonuses
i like how u tried out different names but then just went back to occido123456 lol
are the cooking speed multipliers from apocalypse chows and the atom collider the same or are they independent from each other? as in do they multiply each other or do they get added together?
all cooking multis should be independent
at first I thought I'd have a hard time remembering who is what, also luckyluke was cuz I made it with the luk star sign back when I thought that actually mattered... euhm yeah
nah i just remember what my characters are by their order. like my 9th character is my 2nd es and 3rd character is DB
should i get 2 DB? wonder if that's worth it for ribbons
I mean, now I know too, back when I was creating my first few clearly I didn't :p
probably not
only if u already have 2x bb and 2x dk
u don't rlly gain much from second db, just that u can be farming wraith on 1 while the other keeps buffs active
it takes longer now approximately 3sec more
that has to be more than 3secs
yeah its annoying why would he have it pop up
oh yeah it teleported me to town for some reason
never knew that was a feature
Jigglypuff is a farming bot confirmed 
it wasn't, it's a shadow nerf with the db patch
reason is simply: lava wants money so he annoys ppl out of doing boss grind so they hopefully spend money on gems
it's gna take like an hour and a half instead of an hour now
well duh, those gems arent there thru your $$$
yeah like u have to PAY ATTENTION to boss grind now
before u could just be like "ah let's just clikc every 10 sec"
which me and my movies/series hate
Do higher tier skulls charge faster?
yeah u can tell from their speed
yeah, it's basically like your mana, the higher the cap the more you regenerate
Neat, thanks!
and never use slush skulls 
basically in relation to recharge speed it's just looking at this
SUPERSONIC
that's a godshard skull for ya :p
happy for you 
speaking of skulls, I wish I had more green salts to upgrade my skulls 
omniphau helps with that :p
I've been ranking it up but still kinda slow, I bet construction mastery would help big time
it does indeed
tbf I'm happier for sailing pops, trying to get eldritch fury
sailing procs are useless, just beanstalk ghampters
but yeah, omni is huge
huh, you are right 
I'm only missing 2k, might as well farm crystals while I sleep
sLEEP?
meanwhile I try to farm bones while I sleep just for the grave to bug out very quickly 
I was thinking of doing CC or crystals while I sleep, definitely not DB 
not gonna wake up extremely pissed just because of that
!guide
I'm mostly annoyed that mobile version of the game thinks suggma's are the 3rd bone type instead of the first
Mid-Late Game guide for World 3 / 4 / 5:
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/e/2PACX-1vSCepYAs6sNDP4iq6MJNAG1pvFXzfC_3IQ7ttt5vfEEKAgQhIk4cQqnLRyeH6UyqDSuP4R-6WQeDmmP/pubhtml
Video Guides (by GriffyBit):
https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLVGSDQs1AcvjYTAPtYV6ofbeeEfHpEcb4
oh, this doesnt have a crystal farming section
u want ghampters right? tremor wurms would be the spot
do I just go there with bubo tho, I dont think I've been there with either DKs yet
Is it possible to have 100% chance to get sailing afk time?
If ur goal is Ghampters, then DK
guess I'm candying
ya
or clsoe to it, but pretty saure theres 100% chance
yes, easily
Golden food effect be going brrr
dk is the crystal farmer so u do wanna try to get him there
Btw is PO additive to Ghampters?
My squire doesn't even have a mining certificate or something I still have the quest from the w1 storyline XD
believe so
Ofc it is, stupid question
4 of my elites didnt complete any of scripticus quests
Whats funny is he was my miner
Man is mining without a certificate
does it actually count for 3x or is it just '100%' chance basically?
That's criminal
100%
100
you called me a noob in so many languages I lost count ๐
I did say I'm a late gamer :p and from what I gathered ur still early game so is it rlly a surprise that I'm more progressed? :p
nah you end game
well yeah makes sense, but still 
What stage am I 
Based on your info
That's not good news...
the only winning move is to actually not play the game at all !
Still answer, I will bear it
at least thatยดs where im headed , i do not miss owl and roo though , its okay to take some time off sometimes or you risk burning out
What is a green stack for equinox????
i need to wait another 2 days till I can craft ice hammer to get to 1m damage
Any stackable item u have 10m of
I have long forgotten the specifics of ur progression so euhm, idk either early or mid game I gues
-# ||I'm 2 locks away from going to yolks mobs|| 
Does anyone play on Idleon Web and is able to minimize the window without it going into AFK mode?
so you're practically late/endgame too
so maybe mid game, depending on everything else
Hell no

Lategame usually starts when I finish w6 maps
If I have a really bad alchemy, then still on midgame
Ur measurements are just... Too early 
yeah I know I didn't upgrade some of my measurements bonus in a while, me bad at math better meth
based methematician
On W3, map The Stache Split, is there an easier way to get the 100k kills for Wam Wonderlands? Currently on W4
What Wam Wonderlands?
thats the name of the rams map
The next map
Mm
that isnt important, for now focus on the other portal path to the boss
I just got past skydoggies 2 days ago and I'm at 1000000000000k dmg rn ๐ญ
dont mind getting to those map until you're nearing the end of w4
W4 kickin my butt currently
equip some w4 food 
the 2 mobs to get to equinox are like stronger than the first half or w4 mobs
If I'm not mistaken, that's just 1Q
shh make it look big for the noobs
am i gonna get hacked with that link?
embed fail 
1Q is enough...
Just sent a gif lol, didnt know they werent enabled
Seems small I think using the E# makes it look massive in my eyes
you're still new on server
nah I had 1q in world 2 make it look big so that they don't try to call me out
unless you're copper rank 1 (or higher) you cant send images, same for links like that
Wanna know my exp on ||gaming|| ?
nah I feel like I'm behind on stuff that I shouldn't be behind on I'd probably cry tbh
like how my highest wave in breeding is <40
dont you dare utter such lie, only my glorious king zui can boast having that much dmg in w2 only
Itll be infinite times more than me lol
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0 * something = 0 tho
lets try to keep this on topic shall we
YESIR
Ello also yes sir
I'm going to keep this on topic by not speaking 
what happened? ๐ญ
i heard something about ribbons max lvl is 15? and if i over level it becomes useless?
lvl20
cant level up more maybe
goes back to lvl1 
you wont be even getting a lvl20 anyway
ribbon prestige
I need to go to equinox soon then๐ฎโ๐จ
does nobody know?
Know what?
you have a lvl20 ribbon or why you asking?
equinox isn't useful till like mid w5 because of the challenges
I know but it would still be nice to get
welp here goes the two mobs, you gotta farm the last one to get an item to teleport to the equinox first
WAIT I CAN MAKE DUSCYTHE
rn I'm tryna craft the plat material bags
what map r u on
i'm on octodars (finished up clammies)
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That's a lot of HP, idk if I can reach the equinox as of right now... is it even worth it?
Bean 
because with plat mat bags I can finally get ice hammer
reminder that jman has higher base mat capacity
at the rate I'm going I'm prob only gonna get deuscythe in like mid-late w5
Clamms
it is but I'd say near end of w4 or w5
so gold bag suffices
mid-late w4 imo
yeah but jman doesn't quite have the levels yet and it would take a bit longer to get him to that
while my dk is already at the level
thats what skill levels are for
and i'm working on making my archers catch up
also even if you unlocked it earlier thats the first 10 challenges (can have 5 at a time only), I doubt you'll be able to do half those
also no one said jman would use it, just to craft and hold it
ye
i meant smithing levels
1st is easy via printer, 2nd is easy via es, 3rd is easy via pushing one map past elite map (can cans are op for xp), 4th is time gated, 5th can be done with logs
Okay, 1 might take a while, 2 I don't think I can do it yet, 3 might require 10 characters?
all char you have
all of it can be done mid-late w4
i have more bonus xp on my jman's anvil so i'll probably get it fast
relatively easily too
Oh, so it might be beneficial to wait with the 8th character?
but it'll still take a few days because i don't have the cap on threads for it to be useful yet
so if you have 8 char and will have 9th in a few hours, better do that lvl 100 first before making new char
youll push him to elite anyways, whichll get him to 100
mat bag cap increases anvil cap
like the cap for production before holding it in inventory
0 points are invested into this
now multiply this number by 4
notice something familiar?
base anvil cap is just mat cap * 4
welp can reset with an item in w3 shop
I uh.... Did my anvils wrong I might go and redo them-
nothing really scales speed afaia, via stats or pouch caps anyways
Yeah was thinking of that
and ur jman has ab 700 mat cap
This is on my barbarian, is this decent?
I have put some points onto capacity btw fyi earlier in the game
How do you know how many cards you need to unlock a set? I s2g i should have this unlockd by now
what should I spend it on
so each tier of card
Ohhhhh we close to million
21/27 i would think i'd have it by no wtho
i feel like I should use mman for crafting
speed all the way
cause you only have 21 card rarities
for me, on bosses n Nightmares, I only have 25/27
gotta farm some more boss and miniboss of early world, easy to get
OOoooohh im dumb i get it.
if basic was 1, bronze was 2, etc. it would add up to 148 in my case
all the boss rubys ๐คค
Ooh, I'm missing 2 minibosses in World 1
baba yaga and dr def
Is it better to buy the talent book or kilroy skulls from weekly battle
or dr def and white poop
rubifiers on w6 bosses, w5/6 miniboss, and the two trolls. rest are natural 5*
For me, it's dr def and white poop
killroy skulls is never worth it
good math I did my meth and it adds up
i'm 5 levels away from being able to craft ice hammer on my jman but I'm gonna get there soon
and whats the description of the talent book?
Get your peeps down there. Def is damage and w poop is fight afk gains. HUGE
so produce thread right
Any idea where they are?
just says trophy star talent
this one is very bad
Go to w1, and click on the sewer
this one is very good
Is there any way to tell which one it'll be?
Oh I'm ready for troll
the description
I'm on the rat map in terms of sewers
I got spillover so that's good
you get book levels in multiples of 4
What is the skull for cookiemonster
SO CLOSEEE
Lock in
so I'm producing thread on my jman and imma see if my jman gets smithing levels faster than my dk can craft plat pouch, and if it does i'll just use it for crafting ice hammer
98k more kills til I'm out of clammies
Sheesh
didnt i just say a few minutes ago to keep this w3-4 questions. doesnt seem like a lot of that going on here
sorry i'm gonna move to gen chat
What we think? Am I ready for troll? (I'm only on clammies right now so it will all go up with time)
if you can reach troll you can kill it
Might take a while but yes you could do it
oh damn, new lab jewel+chip rotation, skill effi 
why does alch level up so much slower then construction?
do you have your characters in liquid cauldrons? or the 4 colored ones
mainly have shaman in liquid cauldron (dragon water) but sometimes its in purple
so, you gain 2x xp in liquid cauldrons
accidentally left my discord on gen-chat and was wondering why chat was so degen...
my squire is already lv 94 in construction my my shamen that has been in alch for over a few months now is only lv 63ish
Your squire will be lvl 400 when bubo is lvl 100
damn
i just want to unlock the 4th liquid cauldron lol
its best to put my shaman in the draconic water cauldron compared to the ivory trench water right?
You don't need the liquid in cauldron 4 until you get to W6.
i wanna get started on it early 
welp
im sure ill have it by the end of W3 at the very least
whichever liquid you need the most, put your shaman there
ah so it makes no difference which liquid cauldron nor what rank?
Level up the Noodubble bubble and cookin Roadkill. If you want to level up bubo, keep the cookin roadkill bubble active at all times.
ah right CC effects alch xp gain right
How much money are you spending on the game?
if set up right, its just how it works out, alchemy will never keep up with construction
not that much
just playing it slow
building stable foundations
playing it in a weird way
damn
fair enough ig
You'll get the fourth cauldron around the time you reach w6.
depends on how slow you do w5
ill probs get it by end of W3 or early-mid W4
also theyre "different"
im special 
theyre the person who beat nightmare amarok before w2 unlock
Unless you're crazy active on bubo doing cranium cooking. But gl with that unless you spend a lot of money
how does money effect alch again?
rift slug
ohhh
Money affects progress
to allow early tentieye 200
thattt
with a high level es too
all about money
well youd need to get library up to lv uhhh
brain tired
175?
Gen chat at it again..
lmao
thats where es comes in
same for symbols from beyond
Oooo
W4 is going to be fun then ig
ill unlock elite classes
and all the BS taht comes with it XD
youll be able to actually do active!
Yeah, unlock elite classes ASAP
And buy all your anvil points!!!
BEFORE april, cause u gotta lvl breeding a lot.
I got to w4 the week of choco chip and just had to stare at it in the shop window
i already do that somewhat on my Squires now
used to be active on my Mman and barb
but uh
now squire bc build rate
yeah i got them pretty high when i left W1
can get it within a week of entering...also their account is a special case
im special too dont forget it 
my foundations are so stable that even OSHA fears me
in the mental way, in a special wacky hospital too
What pendant should I get for my dk?
Whats the strat to get it within a week?
use eggs, do the quest before elite map on as much chars as possible, get BM asap
idk
but i got death note on Day 1 of W3
talking about choco chip in w4
i know but i was trying to give something for comparison
and also you only need up to carrot in w1 breeding
which is really easy to rush if you do it right
(also theyll get vman basically as soon as they enter w4)
i can get eggs from Killroy iirc
i think i have everything but the Gmush kills
mayube choco chip is easier than ir emmber but day1 it seemd forever away
its cause how infrequent it is, not how hard it is to get
iirc
this
Nah, looking again.
Cheese is VERY Far down the list (for early w4). Min 2 weeks to get that far. I guess unless you saved all your ladles to ONLY get that one recipe lol
thats just wrong
cheese as in the food kind?
cheese is really easy to get to
Just unlocked world 3
I don't know if I want to play this anymore ๐ญ
or the meal of cooking kind?
its like...7 territories in
@sudden wadi My barb is doing swell
which you only need up to carrot to beat
nice congrats!
you got this
jsut take your time
Yay!
it can be overwhelming
I am working on my squire but still a achievement nonetheless
any news from lava about next update?
If you dedicate your whole ass account to getting cheese in your first week of w4 then sure it's possible. but the odds are low and then also getting cheese is a 5% chance using those spices. You have to get so lucky.
Possible? Yes. Realistic? No.
AND you have to know wtf ur doing in breeding fights which is not someone who just got to w4 3 days ago
w4 meal
ahh
yeah taht thing
I need to unlock new spices asap
DO we need to talk about why that's your hat?
itsa cool hat
a hat with like 4 def lol
it could be premium hat ified?
MAYBE
event gaveme like 5 of htose stones
Is lab worth doing I'm early w4 and it seems bad atm
you'll get mixed answers.
It's worth putting 1-3 chars in when you dont need them. But mainlyh you want to get your shaman to elite class and stick it in there... and then when yhou get w5 and divinity skill then you stick all your characters in jail in the lab
at a minimum though if you can time it to put characters in there at your daily reset then you want to have them at the cauldron bonus
Its the premium hat
Btw
.. I tried clicking Select Class
Yeah I dont wear a cone
Should I move the equipment to my squire now?
Since he lab jail
yep
I know I wont use him but would ya like to distribute his points before he is imprisoned?
aside from killing stuff faster is there a setup for pure cash gain, being unable to purchase anything blows 
yea, eventually when u get elite classes, divine knight is much better to push with than blood berserker. i also started out as blood bersker and switched to squire in like w4 after ppl told me about it
BB isnt my pusher anymore
oh lol
I wanted him as a AFK but people say lab jail him
i think i had him in lab jail for a while
DK is my real pusher as BB afked places I needed was my plan
i lab jailed him until i got killer brightside
I wish the sprite had the BB markings when ya became a BB
then, i just make him cook
acc i lab jailed all of my chars for like 2 weeks until i got brightside lol, idk if it was a good or a bad thing
does gaming boost very much?
over time it has a lot of big boosts
sheesh
Goodbye my Barbaric friend... Hey look I got a refinery node :D
good riddance barb 
Not good riddance he may not be the best but he surely was not the worst
He will be..
Will be but he wasnt before
good riddance in advance
It is never good to just say good riddance unless he truly penalized ya which he doesnt really just not effective
you should aim like this
not taking refinery ๐ญ
you know technically a super low lvl character could beat nightmare effaunt by just breaking an arm and then hitting his head for like 20 hours...
so didnt focusing on that
True lol
How long does w4 take usually
People only do it once so there's not really a usually. But you could get through it in a week or be there 1 month
so many factors, dude, are you a whale, are you not, have you spent some time on your alchemy or is it totally neglected
how are your stamps, hows your gear
Dont worry Idleguy11 the squire shall carry on my BB's legacy
I am gonna make this a thing now. The cone shall follow me to endgame
Is there a thing around premium hats or are they the same just cosmetic with the same buffs
Some prem have better stats because you have to buy them
most have the same basic stats
Bubo can almost get there
zero reason to get rid of the hat so probably until w8
Jeez he has long reach
he is bubo and I have 1 purchase of the golden lab bonsu
why on left tho
I need to get the lab equipment
bubo is on the right
for exp?\
I kinda wanna use BB to farm for it but he is lab jailed
oh yes, its xp build
congrats (sorry just drove home from work so i couldnt see it when you sent it)
Its alright your safety is more important
ahh thats why i see bubo there
I dont care about range much because i cant reach anything. IF i need to put more in for the cauldron at reset then i do that
Should I start up my shaman or wait till after DK
I started doing 2 at a time at one point. just depends if you have the gear for sham
Nope
I was mostly a warrior
Unless I can chop my enemies with my chopping equipment I dont
Yeah thats why I asked I just dont have equipment for a shaman
yeah bubo the goat
Ahem @sudden wadi
i see
Dw I have work arounds aka steal my squires armor
And use alien headband
I just realized... I never made a starlight- Is weapons extremely important?
yes
not extremely but helps
wdym not extremly its like half of the damage they do in w4
i dont remember weapons having that much of an impact
it was more talents, clickers, and i think stamps
yes
murder
Nvm lets talk about a reset XD
Wasted talent points
Too low?
Weapons have a bigger affect on your kills than a whole armor tier-up. (Unless you have 0 surviveability obviously)
But i upped my wep and got like an extra 100 kph. Its not... DRASTIC (For pushing.) Later in the game it matters more
That wasnt a question that was me finishing your sentence waffles
Why are my axe and sword too low?
I conveniently have 14 fragments
you decide if you would prefer that or afk
Definitely wasnt saving for a special reset TvT
why do you need to special reset
just level squire more and get more sp talent points
I thought a trophy was extremely good cuz of the chance to land on 1 is slim
nope
How did I get this???
dont
anyone can help doin snake last quest?
No I have it for some reason
a week to get explorer 14 and then 29 more days after that to get explorer 15, idk if I want lava to drop the update sooner rather than later or not
you get more vip points in cooking w4
Ah
how many opals you have
Do I use it?
red is priority blue if you have left over
i think mage dmg scales with the blue crystal
142 I think, Im working on getting a few more rn
holy badoodle crackers i barely have half of that
where are you getting your opals
better off booking more important talents
plus you can buy the big movement pots in w4 shop
cavern one... cavern 2... cavern three... cavern four... cavern 5... cavern 6... cavern 7... cavern eight... cavern 9... cavern 10... DB grimiour... like 5 from gem shop
guys can you help on snake jar quest?
1 more and i can make w2 trophy
im quest rat so that would be easy
if you have good stats, easy, if you have bad stats, harder
the blue crystal at the bottom
Done
Yay onto tab 2 (I hate having to redo talents)
I can smell so much neglect
these are my battles rn
all middle row expect the food one
why were you asking about final cyan battle if youre nowhere near it??
and 1 into attacks?
i only do summoning every few days and when i do i either upgrade the ones that give more essence or bump hp/dmg and do as many battles i can
i was just wondering chill my boy 
yes
okie
heya, how often should i be doing this?
once a week once they reach 2 bosses
are they doable with dementia gear?
not rly sure bt
i only started doing em in w6
oh alr ill try, thanks 
9?????
if you do close to 20 mil damage you kill both really quickly
Eventually I am gonna just creep into your walls (DMs)
my lv 150+ dk doesnt do 1m yet sadly
do you have green vials yet (lvl 4 or higher)
How many do I need at minimum?
Yeah but how many do you want me to have for what ya are thinking
at least 5
finally resampled on everyone
well, except bm, he could use new refinery mat prints tho
I haven't killed mush yet so idk but slush will be super ez with those stats n dementia
Like 300k damage would be fine
Should I get this for afk shaman btw?
put points into
top, 2
top, 4
middle, 1
middle, 3
bottom 2, 3, 4, 5
cant do that afk
and no it has a extremely long cooldown
What- so aura, tentycle, Vials, Statues, and all the bottom except the skull?
i messed up with the bottom one but yes
Evenly or something ya want me to specifically get
aura and vials have the most points
everything else can share the rest
maybe not the last one on bottom row
I'm really confused on the printer thingy, for whatever reason the "sample" is 27 for sporecaps even tho the char kills 1120 per hour with a 10x multikill... what am I missing to get more? Sample size is 12% atm
if it helps most people just use 1-15 instead of top, middle, bottom
I uh still messed up a lil- Levels with even things out...
to late

to sum it up, you have 33% afk gains, your sample size is 12%
ill use that for next time thx
Same char gets 350 on oak logs tho in the harvesting config ๐คทโโ๏ธ
bet you are using logs on logs
Oh true
and why are you comparing skilling to combat
Mostly the fact that I put 1 in at first then miscounted wasting another 4 more and then dumped mostly into the aura instead of also including the eye-
Well, things I didn't know I didn't know, that that's apparently a lower rate
I cannot be trusted with things...
the eye isnt the most important thing\
work towards your royal sampler prayer
learn, experiment, respec later
it just helps
and get your roo/owl going ๐ญ
You wont catch me alive doing that for a while
What lvl is normal for w4 boss
well it's a good thing I'm talking to them 
They are, I got them up to 3x x2 on all of the buffs so far
so three rounds of getting the boost, +2, then two rounds of the "final" feather getting everything doubled / tripled
Yeah I need to level up my towers a bit but I do have that on the plans (I know you weren't talking to me you just reminded me of it)
owl is easier than roo imo, especially if you get the feather bonus megafeathers 
I've got my fireball and boulder towers upgrading as we speak, and all my guys are farming sporecaps so I can pump refinery ranks
there is also a reddit post describing owl resets, when/what to do
I've followed that until fractal 13 then just left it there
Ah nice, I've been kinda just figuring it out myself, when one gets too far ahead of the other, but once I've gotten 400+ shiny feathers I'm like, I do NOT want to touch that reset dial lmao
if you want to experiment, then it's entirely up to you, I wanted to be efficient with it since it requires going there every time
My shaman is not ready
I'm still pretty new to world 3, I kinda pushed it to unlock the stuff, but learning as I go. Working on shrines while farming specific mobs for refinery buffer or for alchemy vials, bubbles (after getting my 9 per day distilled water ofc)... progress, progress
armor, weapons
Done
not overdoing them, just like, vials to lv4, bubbles to lv20 or so, stamps to lv20 or so
make sure you give everyone a worship skull, dont ever use siphon charge
Good to know, appreciated!

I've got everyone on the 2nd trap with 2 slots now, too, and I refresh them hourly with the hunter... compromise so I don't burn out on that
the google spreadsheet disagrees with the idleon toolbox on what talents to pick
idk which is right
you use the hunter's skill that collects every trap, right?
man I'm sure it does, lots of disagreements esp. since some are generic "this is best" and don't account for how much progress you have on the side supports (like stamps, owl, etc.)
Yes Muta, it also re-sets them all with same settings
Once I realized it did that too, I was like, okay, this is what keeps me poking at this hourly successfully instead of only doing it like, 8hr / 20hr / 20hr / 8hr
if you want to make things easier for yourself, get your construction going
I uh seem that my shaman is needs something that my squire is using
Aye, construction top row is always a building in the slot, I pushed some merits to get the 3rd and 4th building slot, so I'm always pushing progress on top row
cards, star signs?
yeah, you want to reach trapper drone as soon as possible 
so you dont ever have to manually set your traps
top row new building, bottom row new shrine, then the two other slots are working on the afk shrines and the 3D printer
I asked the dang cards earlier and you didnt answer so I dropped it
Appreciate that, Muta!
good luck
How far is that?
8th building in top row
I also got really lucky with persistently getting some cards, so I could get more +card drop rate cards, and I'm sorta figuring out what I want to -focus- to get more card ranks... that feels pretty meta tho
right after cost cruncher
just copy your bb cards
I had a char that i'd take to a new map, look at the AFK thing to see "cards in X hours", and I'd just set her to do that for X hours until I got one... bonus was all the other random drops in case of post office XD
unless the have base strength then dont use those (tell me how many empty slots you have once you do that)
None
Have you been doing the owl
That thing carried me to the elite classes tbh
Mhm behind I can already tell that you will say it when I show my Orion
All the side things you can do for bonuses seem to really be the key to success cuz they all multiply against each other
once you get those rolling it's like, things get easy where they used to be struggle
Hopefully it has at least 10 megafeathers.. 
take off amarok since shamen needs to be more active then bb did
Im active a squire???
well damn ok
Oh good question, with my archers always running out of mana, should I put points into + mana stuff, since they constantly can't use their skills? I've already taken some off that don't hit a lot of targets
He is close to being a DK
just like 12-14k more kills
Gonna active him over night again
dont know if you have it yet but
Ooooooh, I do NOT have that yet
this will help, its a star talent
How do I get that?
My squire runs out of Mana
unashamedly full lootwh* cards on the hunter lol
That's dropped by baba yaga right?
So how far behind is it Amnesia?
10 fractal feathers is a good amount to shoot for
This is probs facepalm worthy, just... I know on one more reset cycle I can get the drop rate to 6% and then start blitzing through megafeathers
I need to start farming those, I hate the droprate on woodular circles for the boogley eyes
colo is easier to farm him
I really struggle with the 1/20k drops, but I'm just chucking my whole team at them for a day and night while the afk towers gain their levels
also upgrade the merit thing that increase its drop rate
Just get more dr

I do not have the patience for orion as I do roo
increases ... the star book drop rate?
What I meant is the rare item drop rate, the 1/20k item to make the boogley eyes... and you need like 4 nuget cake right?
I think I am confused about sample size. So, I have 6424 afk kills at 24% but my sample size is 260?
What?xd
Hey I got the accuracy now-
262 ._.
Yea, I really don't understand.
Neither do I
Yeah I'm pretty lost on that myself, even my flycatcher does 2x that without any sort of "active" and she's like barely 2x compared to the one with the sporecaps with 10x and 1120/hr
Just gonna keep working on the stuff that helps... there'll be bonuses, patience, patience
please for the love of god buy the crystal printer in the gem shop
I'm saving for it... just got the giants prayer so I can get gems from those too
ok good
Shouldn't 24% of 6424 be 1541 though?
are you at 100% afk gains
Yea.
Why is it so low T-T
I did everything I could think of
probably lvl and the lack of green vials
Do you have your attack abilities put on your bar?
Or like maybe you're missing a couple
Probably
Not all but I have all them unlocked
aside from bottom left of shaman tab
Yea, I have my abilities on the bar.
more dmg more kills
K
which islands should I unlock first
also do your weekly dungeon and maybe youll get afk gain keys
trash
I can buy one more
shimmer
Is it worth to filter bean slices when afking at beans to avoid lag for statues
God I love Shaman's aura ability
If ya dont need it scrap it, But they can be used in alchemy
yes
Yeah but 520...
my vials level 12 and I work for about 8 hours so I can farm 8 hours of statues
I mean, the amount you'll get probably isn't substantial so just filter
I got 2.7k and wait like 3d every portal
when you go for L13 vial just use vman
For hammerhead need 300k iirc
I wanna use shrines on my shaman but my squire needs em
you at hammer head?
Moai Head Artifact
or just need the key
Whats that do?
shrine's effect affects the whole world
like all 6 at once
there not in w5
And where do I get that?
ah yeah
lol
shrine world tour is a start if they are in the same world
they cant reach that either
What are those
lab node
(its the lab node behind nblb)
the one that looks like a column
^^
which meals are the most worth it to put my ribbons in?
besides the cooking speed ones
depends on which stage you're at but in the end gold food bonus
skill eff too
ty g
Cool
I thought getting the chips would be close by when I unlocked the chip repository but I sure was wrong
lil overdue for the resamplin
I smell a DK tonight
lol
Just got shiny pets woo
Wait, you need level 40 breeding to unlock shiny pets?
Yeah
That's quite a high level requirement
It took me a good while, the cooking meals really helped though
not really
Do you think itโs better to go straight for the infinite star sign bonuses or just go down the line
shinys are suppose to be later game things
go down the line but get at least the first infinite star sign
not bad
also only get them to day 5
Whats the infinite star signs?
Woah, unadulterated banking fury is not bad
The only star signs I have
You should have hydron by w4..
not bad get 5 more to get to the next page
i'm working on getting hydron
With who tho?
?
Squire and Shaman are on promotion duty the rest are in lab
I guess it can wait a bit, the first few hydron signs could help quite a bit since it's 10% acc and 10% defense
All stat not the best early on
i would perfer you get dk and bubo first
mine are about the same as yuris
you wont need to get to that page till your pushing
I could possibly take BB back out and do some of those. He doesnt reach anything knew rn in lab
Should I work on the World 3 star signs?
becuase of the acc and def
if you can do most of them
I need that pulse talent
That's going to be a problem on archer elite classes haha
collect your colo tickets and do colo 2
Wait for dk first.
I'm 1 character short from level 90 on 1 of the star signs, do I prioritise that?
^
Or I bring out the BB he was what I used on colo 2 and 1
somehow my bm got above 1k kph on every map including genies
Depends on how important it is compared to other stuff
Archers tend to have good kph
dk has a ability
Technically less
its the orb and this orb gives you drop rate
alot of drop rate
the more you kill the more you have
and in colo you will get so much
If you need a good line width early on, try getting pancakes in cooking
Alrighty now give me info on the DK please cuz I am clueless
What ingredients?
Why don't you wait a bit haha
i will when you get to him since its easier that way
Check wiki
Yeah
Is it just me that has a problem with mana on my SB?
Ah- alright.
Archers have low cooldowns and a ton of attacks, will be a problem for a while
I see what you mean, I already ran out of mana in 2 minutes, will this be a problem through the entirety of World 4?
no
get pulsation
I mean, you get a lot of mana potions when pushing w4 if you want to use them..
you get it from w2 mini bosses
Do I slap the raging man into the kitchen?
no
No need tbh
lab only
Yall are torturing me T-T
Oh
You get ladles from quite a few sources, enough to get simple cooking setup going
Ooh, it's a star talent
Biggie hours with gimme gimme on maestro 
dk in colo will give more dr then maestro
but if you run out of tickets then its the next option
I meant the outside one, pain to charge orb
Minus well attach the dice since I have the talent-
is this bad? I have 2 mana potions active and it's still draining faster than the regen
average for where your at
Alright
Anyone know if there's a limit to how high refinery ranks should go?
No
Not high to the point where you can't keep up for sure
make sure you print enough and youll be good
Just wondering because it seems that my orange salts are consuming more than my reds can produce at r129 and o64
Hards to keep blue salts up without vman ir good mutikill and es damage
like ppl have over rank 400 in red salt
How's the cost
Check the channel pins if you need help with that
Looks fine, no?
Is it worth it in world 4 to try to level up my skills for tools?
for all my characters
You can start considering easier ones, maybe not up to lvl 30 or 40 at the moment
Maybe some gold tools to start
can try and see if you can get a few quick lvl if you mostly ignored them, but dont waste too much time on it once it slow down
will also depend on how much efficiency they have with the base tool
Fishing will likely be the 1 skill I might have to do in World 5 as it's the slowest I think
yeah fishing wait for equinox fish
oh here's a question, with multiple building build slots, does the total build rate per hour get applied to each of them seperately? Or does it get divided, so you'd get more progress on 1 thing per hr if it was the only thing you were building?
Wait can I split stack in my inventory?
applied to all