midgame-chat-w3🧊w4🔮

[rain scroll]

Mr Muhmuguh

[sage bear]

uh what talent does the printer need for sampling?

[somber depot]

You get it from ice cream man

[uneven obsidian]

do w3 town quest for it

[sage bear]

ohh

oh dang

[rain scroll]

im doing some chaotic troll to get it 4 star (platinum)

[shy ruin]

chaotic troll best skilling card fr fr

[somber depot]

I love my logic

[rain scroll]

xD

i mean cooking speed is decent no?

[somber depot]

Then it's js reversed

[rain scroll]

xD

[rain scroll]

get em all ruby

[sudden wadi]

at least you got the multi

might as well buy that rubifier

[rain scroll]

nm emp is great tho

i spent 2.5k gems as f2p on 5 card packs i think

[shy ruin]

hell yeah

[rain scroll]

now get vman

[shy ruin]

nah not yet

[rain scroll]

vman is the real juice

cooking and critter go brr

[uneven obsidian]

souls too

[rain scroll]

yea

[shy ruin]

so now that i have the club "subclass" trophy can i give my club "main class" trophy to another character

[rain scroll]

yes only beginner tho

[shy ruin]

oh

so i might as well just sell it

[somber depot]

Twin

[shy ruin]

ah nvm i can't sell it

[somber depot]

Get your troll n Ctroll cards up tho

[shy ruin]

i'll just throw it away then

[somber depot]

Why?

[rain scroll]

who?

[somber depot]

Js let it sit in storage

[somber depot]

Flower777

[rain scroll]

storage issues

[shy ruin]

nah i wont be using it anymore

[sudden wadi]

haven't farmed any ruby cards other then card % because im lazy

[somber depot]

Slab might not slab it tho

Meaning -1 slab which is permanent

[rain scroll]

we can reclaim i think?

[rapid osprey]

Is it worth unlocking deditated ram's in W3 or coming back when I have extremely high multikill %'s

[shadow lark]

come back a bit later

[rain scroll]

high multikill

come when ur in w4 end or w5

[somber depot]

Also what difference do these diff symbols n letters n shit make?

[rain scroll]

idk

[uneven obsidian]

cosmetic

[rapid osprey]

gotcha, back to push levelling with all 6, thank you

[somber depot]

Aesthetics?

[sudden wadi]

probably none at all

[shadow lark]

[rain scroll]

15-20 more bosses for plat card (chaotic troll)

[trail stirrup]

what is this?

[rain scroll]

looks like es #2

[shadow lark]

that, unfortunately, is es #1

[rain scroll]

or maybe es #1 (neglected too much)

[shadow lark]

just rushed to w6 so ye

catching up rn

[rain scroll]

who did chopping btw?

[shadow lark]

bubo

[rain scroll]

bubo?

mhmmm

[trail stirrup]

okay, just dont know what splicer does or how to use it

[shadow lark]

equip it, afk in w1, click splice

[rain scroll]

when u get afk gain use splice buttom

[shadow lark]

get genes, boost pet unlock chances

[shy ruin]

dw i dropped on ground and picked up again

[trail stirrup]

oh okay gotcha

yeah then ill do that rn, but does time candy work?

[shadow lark]

it does, but its not a priority

you can do it during your vman grind

[trail stirrup]

then ima spend time candy rn

[trail stirrup]

whats vman?

[shy ruin]

using time candies to splice aint a good idea

[shy ruin]

shhh its a secret

[shadow lark]

the elite class for beginner

[rain scroll]

larger candy scales lower gains shorter claims= better genes

[trail stirrup]

ehh its fine, i havent spent time candies efficiently

[shy ruin]

sPoiLeR tHe SeCrEts!!!1!

[rain scroll]

so people do 2 min claims they r best

[trail stirrup]

whyd u say shh to me... rude

[glacial turtle]

@trail stirrup the splice gain slows a lot the longer you afk so you only need to afk for 1 to 2 hour intervals

[trail stirrup]

oh okay thanks

[trail stirrup]

yeah thanks, i got like 4 1-2 hours afk i believe

[sage bear]

uh how do i sample stuff?

[shadow lark]

star talent

[sudden wadi]

put it in your attack slot

[shy ruin]

use a star talent

[sudden wadi]

use it when you skill

[glacial turtle]

@sage bear you equip it like an atk

[rain scroll]

finally

[sage bear]

yeah?

[white lintel]

Ruby when?

[trail stirrup]

who do i prioritise with gene slices?

[sudden wadi]

the next pet

[white lintel]

Highest kph mobs

[rain scroll]

some years later

[trail stirrup]

alr

[rain scroll]

ima do skilling for cards

[trail stirrup]

it really didnt help a lot wow

[rain scroll]

my cards suk

[sage bear]

do i click on stuff after i equip it?

[glacial turtle]

@sage bear what are you trying to sample

[sudden wadi]

start chopping a tree down then click it then it will take a sample

[sudden wadi]

same thing with every other skill, fishing, mining, catching

[sage bear]

i grabbed a piece of wood from the fllor

wait my bad

[rain scroll]

my this card is at base rn lol time to make it min gold

[glacial turtle]

@sage bear now go to the quick ref screen and click the 3d printer at the bottem left

[sage bear]

the guy in the printer isnt the guy sampling also how do i get my guy into the printer slot thing

[shadow lark]

click printer once

[rain scroll]

u unlock char slots by upgrading printer in construction

u must sample with 1st char for 1st time

[sage bear]

oh no

ight thanks yall

[shy ruin]

yay im at stiltmoles

[shy ruin]

what the hell

[sudden wadi]

make sure to buy crystal printer in the w3 gem shop

[glacial turtle]

@sage bear theres a mining buff going on right now if your 1st character is a miner i suggest you have them sample your ores

[white lintel]

U need more afk gains

[sage bear]

they're a fisher tho

[rain scroll]

mhmmm

[white lintel]

Barb can also mine

[shy ruin]

also is hole progress shared between all characters

[white lintel]

Yes

[sage bear]

oh yeah but cant i just sample stuff i drop on the floor from the chest?

[shy ruin]

you don't sample that way

[sudden wadi]

no

[shy ruin]

the sample talent samples your AFK gains

[white lintel]

You sample your afk gain stats

[glacial turtle]

no you have to be doing the skill

[sage bear]

oh what

ohh

[glacial turtle]

@sage bear it gives you a sample size based off a percentage of your afk gains

[sage bear]

so i sample while i do a skill thing?

[shy ruin]

or fighting also works

you'll sample the mob drops

although a little note is that you won't sample some rare drops e.g. no leaves from sampling chopping BUT when fishing, you can sample all fish you can catch from that area one by one

[sage bear]

oh i get it now you sample when you do stuff?

[shy ruin]

yeah

then once you've sampled whatever you want, go to the 3d printer and select a sample, it'll start producing it completely for free

pretty useful for those recipes where you need masses of skilling items/mob drops

[glacial turtle]

also if you need a new sample of something you have already sampled you have to delete it in the 3d printer first

[sudden wadi]

delete it no, re apply it yes

[sage bear]

but why resample? is it to refresh the gain rate?

[sudden wadi]

you gain more efficiency as you go through the game

[glacial turtle]

it takes a picture of your gains at the time as you get better you can take better samples

[sudden wadi]

so youll go from making 5 gold fish to 10 > 50 > 200 > 1000 > 10k

[sage bear]

ohhh

[white lintel]

Eventually you’ll make billions

[sage bear]

is there a cap to the amount it can produce at one go as well?

[sudden wadi]

no

[white lintel]

Sorta

[sudden wadi]

the cap is you not the printer

[white lintel]

Your storage caps out at 1050M but the rest gets converted into a later resource so you didn’t lose it it’s just not fish anymore

[sage bear]

nice

[pine fiber]

atoms 🤤

[north root]

whats this and is it good?

[sleek stone]

Cheese

[pine fiber]

cheese

[sleek stone]

Yeah 100% me

Very me

Use it wise

[north root]

wth do "you" do

[sleek stone]

Nvr had it

Because im cheese tho

[glacial turtle]

its a drop from the moon event the cheese and gravity are a joke

[north root]

u dont kniow what u do

[sleek stone]

Btw you only can link 1 divine god?

[glacial turtle]

its just free stats

[north root]

so it doesnt do anythig shit

[north root]

better than nothig i guess

[glacial turtle]

@north root nope just more stats you can put w4 upgrade stones for armor on it i also think it effects your text box say something in game

[sleek stone]

I thought premiup equipment use premium stone?

[glacial turtle]

@sleek stone its not a premiun its a rare event drop

[sleek stone]

Ahh

Noted"

[glacial turtle]

it would say premium on the card

[quiet crane]

you'll see later

[glacial turtle]

@sleek stoneare you at w5

[pine fiber]

that was easier than I expected

[sudden wadi]

yes and no

[sleek stone]

10k more

And boom w5

Its fast isnt

[glacial turtle]

dont forget boss fight

[sleek stone]

Yeah

Got the key tho

Hit the 1.5m dmg well no worries

[glacial turtle]

nice wish i knew that the mini boss dropped keys would have been faster that way

[sleek stone]

Yeah lol

I just want some candy and got diamond

[faint matrix]

My es ain't giving a lot of keys

[sleek stone]

Jail in lab

No worth to play if not givin

[glacial turtle]

for regular farm or the mini boss

[sleek stone]

Mini boss

Havent kill it since i arrived at w4

[glacial turtle]

its also in the coliseum if you can do that

[sleek stone]

Yeah i can i think

With es i can solo them all

My es just hit 1.7m and crit 23m

If only dk could do the same

[north root]

acc needed for end w3 is insane

[glacial turtle]

this is your friend you will need it so much in w4

[north root]

liquid is an issue

[uneven obsidian]

work on your cooking and sacrifice rats to the salt lick

[north root]

does this really make a huge impact on ur acc?>? 17% seems bvery low

[pine fiber]

its a multiplier

[glacial turtle]

^

[rain scroll]

17% is good

[white path]

it also has linear scaling

[north root]

very hard to understand all this math stuff

yeah i just unlocked it but the liquid is the main issue

2.5/hr 64 cap it takes 1.5 days to fill up

[pine fiber]

you arent connected to the alchemy node in lab, right?

and btw, do your p2w tab upgrades

[north root]

w3, i am w3

[pine fiber]

well then yeah, do the p2w tab upgrades

[north root]

trying to its very expensive

[glacial turtle]

this

jinx you owe me a soda

[pine fiber]

if you get your bubo in w4, it'll increase brewing speed in whichever cauldron you put him into

[uneven obsidian]

shaman already does that, bubo just help with cc

[glacial turtle]

how leved is this

[pine fiber]

ah my bad, yes, shaman

[north root]

i guess i have to put some points into cauldron too

never touched that

[pine fiber]

why only 1 in liquid cauldron

[north root]

what?

ohh 1 char

[marsh nova]

The gravity % makes you slower and reduces movement speed

[pine fiber]

why is only 1 character brewing

[north root]

because everybody else is on some other things

[glacial turtle]

@marsh nova it does cool

[north root]

wait seriously?

[marsh nova]

No I'm messing with you

[north root]

lmfao

thanks for not fking up with me

i would have easily believed u

[glacial turtle]

damn sad im always up for a joke item

[north root]

i was just about to open my stats and check if my movement speed was affected

[north root]

u can not an issue

[glacial turtle]

i can one up there new bubble chance im at 3-4% now for a bubble

[eager sphinx]

Why is it good that I don't know?

[north root]

i am trying to get fmj but i have been failing a lot

[glacial turtle]

are you using your mage talent

[north root]

yup

nah i will get it eventually its just luck based what can i say xD, even on 40% i am failing so....

[glacial turtle]

are u trying to get the bubble while using the character you have to be on the mage

oh 40% yea thats some bad luck

[uneven obsidian]

me with 0.1% on last buble

[north root]

haha yup

[north root]

did u get a new bubble?

[sudden wadi]

Sigils are a big waste of time just for the reason of until you reach w6 you progress sigils very slowly

[uneven obsidian]

5k+ try and still nope

[north root]

5k+ is insane

[eager sphinx]

Then why did you bring them up-

[north root]

i think i am too addicted to this game i have to stop opening this game so oftenly

[uneven obsidian]

some ppl take the bait when they unlock the ability to work on them, and we need to tell them they should focus on cauldron over sigils

[north root]

i am so proud if reaching this damage and all it took was some green vials

just yesterday i was 20k damage and boom 52

[eager sphinx]

Oh I was thinking he said something else before lol

[eager sphinx]

Also alrighty

[north root]

ok will take that note

[eager sphinx]

I didn't even know how to access em

And still dont

[wraith creek]

whyd my vman speedrun reset some of my deathnote kills?

i had lava on up to baby boa

[north root]

whats this speedrun portal thing i never got to understand this or should i just wait for my chance

[uneven obsidian]

sigil require you to take your character out of cauldrons to work on them, so while they have so good bonuses, not getting alchy progress hurt more specially since sigil are super slow at first (and later too 😑 )

[zenith hare]

cause vman resets all vman personal kills to 2 mill

[glacial turtle]

@eager sphinx its these thing at the bottem

[zenith hare]

which means if ur vman was ur main deathnoter, you lose a lot of kills

[glacial turtle]

you also have to have reached a node in lab

[wraith creek]

ah easy, thanks

[zenith hare]

but if he doesn't kill at all, you gain a lot

[eager sphinx]

Yeah I don't know how to access those it keeps talking a lot of w4 but I am in w4

[wraith creek]

he wasnt my main guy but i did have him in the mix to speed shit up xD

[glacial turtle]

its this in lab

[slender spindle]

what's the current suggestion for character #7 at the moment? Im a bit unsure what to prioritize

[sudden wadi]

You said you were looking at 2 lab nodes I assumed there were killers brightside and sigils

So I brought up sigils

[glacial turtle]

@slender spindledk

[zenith hare]

secret class

[eager sphinx]

No bubble left behind
Killers brightside

I was looking at those 2

I just got chip repository btw

[coarse shell]

Anyone knows what is max time of arena?

[eager sphinx]

3rd day in w4... No class promotions... Yet >:)

[vocal hamlet]

Leave them as beginner and start then working on skill gains

[zenith hare]

pet arena?

[coarse shell]

Yes

[zenith hare]

infinite

[glacial turtle]

its never ends

[vocal hamlet]

Time? Arena doesn't have a time limit

[glacial turtle]

it is only 1 time a day though

[vocal hamlet]

No rewards past wave 200 tho

[high trail]

I have 6print slit which 6wood shoud i put in?

[slender spindle]

alright, so its either dk or journey. Thanks for the answers

[coarse shell]

Ok i so can continue. I been fighting for 1.5h and still at 182 round with 5 pet only.

[zenith hare]

the wood you need

there is no "set" wood prints

[glacial turtle]

@slender spindleif you dont have the secet class yet get that

[high trail]

okay thx

[burnt plinth]

whats the most basic team comp that can beat the sands of time boss in spice battle

[slender spindle]

Oh alright, thanks

[zenith hare]

!guide

[candid scarab]

Mid-Late Game guide for World 3 / 4 / 5:
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Video Guides (by GriffyBit):
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[zenith hare]

the very bottom left team in the sheet

[burnt plinth]

Thanks

[vital bay]

i thought i couldnt afk in equinox?

[pine fiber]

you cant

[vital bay]

oh so this is just fake

[pine fiber]

try to claim equinox stuff

you can stay in equinox but no skilling is gonna be done in your afk time

[shell isle]

A gold egg brings this up to 1 in 18. Is it better to continue farming genes until I get a percent chance or wait for better eggs?

[quiet crane]

i'd gamble it and wait for the breed multi to go up

if u can get some easy genes its cool too, also u can get some extra% from cooking maybe ?

[shell isle]

By gamble it, you mean just using the eggs as they come in rather than waiting for higher tier eggs?

[quiet crane]

no i'd wait to silver-gold eggs

i imagine getting plat is quite high for you at this time

[plucky frost]

Can someone explain how this actually works?

[quiet crane]

you put it on hotbar, you press skill and it takes all your charge from all of ur chars and gives it to your wizard

[uneven obsidian]

take the charge from your other character and give it to the wizard. which is bad because other character cant lvl up that way

[plucky frost]

right but what do I do with that charge

[uneven obsidian]

worship

[plucky frost]

as in tower defense game?

[quiet crane]

it aint bad because your wizard has more efficiency than ur other chars

[plucky frost]

or what you do after you play the tower defense game

[quiet crane]

ye

after

[plucky frost]

so i shouldnt be using that ability before I start the game

[uneven obsidian]

once TD is done it will save the highest wave, you can then worship instead of summon at the totem to just get souls

[quiet crane]

no its pointless

[zenith hare]

e

[uneven obsidian]

but as i said this prevents you from leveling other character worship skill and thus unable to equip better skull

[plucky frost]

Also does this mean i should be playing on all my chars? I've just been doing it on the wizard

[zenith hare]

no, just do quick worship on everyone

[plucky frost]

just like ive only been mining on my warriors, logging on my mages, etc

[zenith hare]

also btw, hunter is better for td

[plucky frost]

cause of traps?

[zenith hare]

due to the knock back skills

[plucky frost]

ah

[uneven obsidian]

hopefully lava changes that with master class for es

[zenith hare]

kungfu kick and, when elite, can imobalize all mobs on screen

[plucky frost]

ah well, im a ways away from that point i think lol

just got into w3 and all

but effectively i'd dothe TD on the hunter, then worship on my Wiz/ES?

Or are you supposed to worship on each char

[zenith hare]

worship on everyone

[uneven obsidian]

it will eventually get easier to do when you get the construction upgrade that allow you to worhip from w3 town

[plucky frost]

you have to physically go there on everyone?

ah ok that makes sense

[uneven obsidian]

until then, yeah its annoying

[vital bay]

what is the best way to get obol fragments

[zenith hare]

early on, do it till you get the first 2/3 skulls

[sudden wadi]

summon on archer, worship on everyone

[iron jay]

best - dk farming

[uneven obsidian]

worship on everyone, summon when you wanna sufer through td

[zenith hare]

not quite

world bosses on jman

boss obols go brrrr

[uneven obsidian]

kruk/troll ?

[zenith hare]

even chiz

[vital bay]

i dont even have vman tho and my maestro is just 150

[zenith hare]

i said jman

yknow, the first secret class

cause the aboves dont help with dr

[vital bay]

yea i know but i thought u meant vman

[iron jay]

boss farming

[zenith hare]

jman however does

also you multigrind gems while at it

[vital bay]

i dont have that many keys tho

[zenith hare]

thats enough

[vital bay]

which boss tho? like normal or chaotic or nightmare?

[zenith hare]

normal

[vital bay]

alright so reset talent points and set this to max?

[zenith hare]

and the other one thats lower damage for more dr

[plucky frost]

Is that the green row?

[vital bay]

oh yea that one too

[iron jay]

top row

[plucky frost]

And how do you get more construction slots?

[zenith hare]

merit 3 and gem shop

[uneven obsidian]

top row, automation arm lvl 3

[shell isle]

should i only have my DKs on my cog board or will i end up with a few chars who just sit in the cog shelf?

[iron jay]

2x DKs

[zenith hare]

only dks go on the board, everyone else on the shelf

[shell isle]

not me just learning this after getting to first lock portal in W6 😅 thanks!

[quasi lynx]

I am not able to clear Rift 16. I don't understand the rules. It says "get a lava skull." How do I do that? I think my characters are too high level, because I can clear the map within seconds.

[sudden wadi]

you got only xp cogs right?

[sudden wadi]

dont play on dk

[plucky frost]

Does this still apply early on? Cause I only have 1 squire, which would make my construction speed abysmal

[sudden wadi]

it applys through the whole game

[quasi lynx]

I've tried on both ES's and by BM.

[shell isle]

yeah i knew that part, but i'ver had the level 300 equinox dream up forever and im only at 193 construction level so wanted to look into it

[quasi lynx]

My characters either clear the map too quickly if their attacks are fully on, or I switch to their skilling presets, and they kill too slowly.

[sudden wadi]

bubo would be the best if he can respawn the guys fast enough

[shell isle]

yeah putting exp wil level up your squires super fast and that will outpace cogs

[quasi lynx]

I'll try that, thanks.

[sudden wadi]

to get to lava skull you need to kill a target which has a chance to give/upgrade that skull to another target

[shell isle]

i did it with ES but i turned off the bouncing attack. start on the bottom platform and auto should do it.

[sudden wadi]

you need them to repawn fast enough so it can split to someone else

[plucky frost]

Does my squire need to be left on skilling loadout?

[iron jay]

Squire is the best cog

[shell isle]

my first one i left in mines for a very long time, so yeah. my second one became my map pusher.

[indigo stratus]

Should I buy a zen cog after my 3d printer upgrade, idk what the priority is

[white lintel]

Not a big prio imo, they’re very very very expensive

[indigo stratus]

What should I buy with gems then, I have anvil and printer upgrades

[white lintel]

Storage is cool

[astral lava]

Farming Fire Forge Card be like:

[high trail]

Oak print 30m to 180m not to bad after resample

[white lintel]

I cba to farm forge cards

[astral lava]

shall we see how many cards will I get?

[white lintel]

Make sure to claim with a super low ore bag room

Toon*

Cards are per claim not per ore amount

[astral lava]

mmm

thats a goooooood trick

so equip prayer

[white lintel]

Have fun getting carpal tunnel

Main thing is if you have a toon that hasn’t used an ore bag

[astral lava]

what carpal tunnel?

[zenith hare]

hand injury

[astral lava]

good thing that I got all my characters to have marbiglass bags

[white lintel]

Why would you make marbi ore bags??

Don’t they cost salt?

[astral lava]

nah

marbi and godshard doesnt

[vital bay]

its working @zenith hare thanks!

[zenith hare]

866 nice

[astral lava]

weird, just started doing oceanman statue 3 days ago on ||Vman|| and the 2 SB and already got it done

[zenith hare]

dw ab saying vman

[astral lava]

im pretty sure my gains were ~300 per hour

tot gains

[zenith hare]

900 an hour

that gets it done in a day

[astral lava]

not 900

300 tot.

[zenith hare]

3 chars

[astral lava]

i calculated it

[zenith hare]

even still, 300 * 72 is ab 20k

[astral lava]

3x 7 = 21 true

now only need 2 statues from w6 and dragon

and im finally done

[zenith hare]

1 overnight

[astral lava]

yours are 10x bigger than mine

[zenith hare]

:3

[dense egret]

Now that's something that should not be taken out of context

[zenith hare]

tbf i have a far better orb and maybe like 2x dr

so that does make sense

[uneven obsidian]

but its funnier out of context

[dense egret]

True

[astral lava]

yup from adventure island package (?) and that w6 bonus from sneaking

[zenith hare]

DB gives a lot of Dr too

[astral lava]

wait were do I farm bullseye statues?

[zenith hare]

wood mushroom or acorns

wood mush for active, acorns for afk

[astral lava]

ES Wmush mmm

[zenith hare]

ew look at that kill count

[astral lava]

afk for 2 min and it will be atleast 5m

[zenith hare]

maybe closer to 2 mill

[indigo stratus]

What map is best to level maestro to 150

[white lintel]

You need to manually check

Xp her hour is in the afk info page

[zenith hare]

the first w5 map

is a great place

and you dont exactly want to start the vman quest before w5 anyways

[indigo stratus]

I don't even know how I would get all those deathnote kills anyway...

[zenith hare]

its a massive waste of time that early on

w5 helps a lot

tldr: portable lab and another 2x kill multi

[indigo stratus]

Should I rush W5 with ES?

[zenith hare]

if ES is ur main pusher, then yes

[white lintel]

https://tenor.com/view/chewing-while-performing-hand-exercises-gif-4114693469246322080

[sturdy totem]

is DK better?

[white lintel]

Imo yes

[astral lava]

from 31M on every forge of the first page

btw 2nd page isnt brimstoned (gem shop item) on all slots, only 2 out of 4

so it was 31m x2 and ~14m x2

[night sable]

he looks so dumb lmao

why're you that big buddy what did you eat

[astral lava]

aaand ofc all my characters have a carry cap of +560k

[waxen aurora]

Whats the strategy for getting 10m breezy souls? It's been a month of farming 100wave worships and I'm still barely at 1m?

[willow bronze]

Well, I am finally progressing well in my onyx statues, I gave the 20k power statue and I thought that if I had 100k statue in my inventory, the 100k statue looted would be completed too but... no 😭
I guess I am going to grind 200k power statue to start this 100k statue loot on all my character as soon as possible

[vital bay]

im thinking about starting to get some power statues too, but where should i farm them?

[pulsar oyster]

hey guys is there a way to turn off 'Trap Box Vacuum'?
iam stuck on the gathering quest for the Honkers becaus they are auto gathered, which means i won't get progression.
i need to get thius quest done or i can't unlock the next traping type.
i have gathered a bunch manually but when i was swapping between the steam and mobile version the progression got reset

world 4 rifts is where you get the auto gather.

[sudden wadi]

do you have ducks already?

[willow bronze]

Beans with DK, but you must have your Drop Rate obol set ready, the choco chips in your console in the laboratory, a good enough stamp level for crystal mob apparition

[vital bay]

oh ok, im grinding some dr obols rn

[pulsar oyster]

iam on the quest 'Untitled Quest'
can bearly progress.

[vital bay]

but its like 40 days until choco chip is coming back

[pulsar oyster]

i got to 20k of the 65 and then it got reset for some reason

[willow bronze]

Without Choco chips, don't do it yet, keep progressing and preparing

[pulsar oyster]

and i need to stay logged in becaus if the daily reset happens i won't get progression

[sudden wadi]

first you need 65k in your invintory

[stone inlet]

I tried without Choco and my crystal chance isnt 1/100. It was taking so long it was horrible

[pulsar oyster]

no way

[vital bay]

yeah i have already got all the materials needed for buying the chip

[sudden wadi]

second you dont need to do that quest

[pulsar oyster]

i can't read

sorry, and thanks for the help @sudden wadi

[sudden wadi]

doing the quest any further wont give you anything but a trophy and candy

[pulsar oyster]

ah

[iron jay]

april

and 2nd one in april

[velvet ether]

On IE, is the "EXP per charge" reffering to charge used (like the 20 point dump on goblin or the 40 on moon iirc) or per worship point spent on worship

[vital bay]

i know

[pulsar oyster]

i thought i needed it to unlock blob fish

[atomic fable]

Is this good for world 4 progress? I finally reached brightside

[sudden wadi]

if you want blob fish do blubbo's quest

[iron jay]

yes

all keystone buff is active

x2 prints, nblb and x2 portals

[sudden wadi]

turtles are after blob fish and you get that from the jade emporium

which is in w6

[pulsar oyster]

got it, iam in world 5 now

i was already wondering why i could not progresson a world 4 thing so easily

[atomic fable]

I can't reach the refinery speed buff, is that fine?

[pulsar oyster]

again thanks

[atomic fable]

since otherwise I can't reach brightside

[sudden wadi]

blubbo is in w4 m8 btw

[iron jay]

not terrible

[latent cliff]

singular charge, so if goblin gorefest summon gives you 50exp using 25 charges, that's 2exp per charge

[velvet ether]

That feels so wrong (I mean design wise)

[sudden wadi]

if your pushing rn then KBS is better

if your focused doing other things then go refinery

[latent cliff]

let's you know the best place to use charge on vman for skill leveling pretty much

[atomic fable]

Alright

[iron jay]

@atomic fable make your bubo last in this chain

[atomic fable]

Oh, right, let me fix that rq

[velvet ether]

Oh wait so it's the good part, I read it wrong lmao

[vital bay]

farming chizoar blanket aint no joke

[iron jay]

@atomic fable green tube for better lab lvling, purple for better line width

green tube is better, because of chips lvl req

[atomic fable]

Like this?

(Bubo is the 1 with the cat hat on)

[cerulean meteor]

didnt know plat helmet was the meta lol

[atomic fable]

I haven't got around to do dementia armour on all characters yet lol

[cerulean meteor]

well i mean its better than amarok ( due to expensiv)

[sudden wadi]

are you able to bend that a litttle more up?

[atomic fable]

I can try

[cerulean meteor]

yea, i cant get the helmet due to froge shortage

[iron jay]

After w5 gods - you can switch to purple tube. Tubes work even if bubo outside of lab

[atomic fable]

If I bend it too high, I can't reach the printer boost

[latent cliff]

as you gain levels bend more towards refinery tripler and animal farm respectively

[sudden wadi]

bring the second guy down to reach printer

and bring others up

[latent cliff]

https://idleoninsight.com/?search=connection range

[atomic fable]

It's close to working, but this is about as far as I can get without purple tube

Do I try with purple tube instead of exp?

[vital bay]

is there any other ways to get keys beside the daily keys and from minibosses

[iron jay]

w5 and w4 mob farm

[vital bay]

ye but for w1-3

[sudden wadi]

xp better

[iron jay]

w1-w3 can't

[latent cliff]

Post office box pen rerolling technically, but gg fingers

[vital bay]

actuallt colo too right?

[vital bay]

oh yea that too

[iron jay]

colo only daily tickets from centurions

[vital bay]

yea

[latent cliff]

Colo tickets from w1 post box as well, but so rare no worth tbh

[iron jay]

tickets was nerfed in boxes

[latent cliff]

f

[vital bay]

and im not good enough to get a pen farm going either

my highest dr is around 7-8 on maestro

[latent cliff]

you'd want dk crystal farm either way tbh.

[vital bay]

yea i know but just saying that only 7-8 is my highest dr so its not worth farmin crystals yet

• i dont have choco chip

[latent cliff]

I waited a full year for choco chip. Absolutely bonkers good

[atomic fable]

I can get it to work with 7 characters, but then that kinda leaves me stuck, is this a bad idea?

[sudden wadi]

why not split your characters

[iron jay]

Choco chip is divide life into before and after

[sudden wadi]

so some have xp and others have line width

[atomic fable]

I'll try that

This is with purple tube, I can reach it with 5 characters

Is this good? (I can then move my maestro for refinery speed)

[vital bay]

db soon...

[sudden wadi]

your going to need colo tickets

12 at least im pretty sure

[atomic fable]

Sadly, I can't reach it with 5 if I do XP initially, but is this fine?

[sudden wadi]

xp would be better even if you cant reach

[atomic fable]

Oh?

[sudden wadi]

the faaster you lvl up the faster you can reach all of them

[vital bay]

oh well i have 12

[atomic fable]

true, You think this is more a good to know situation for the future when I'm able to reach it?

[sturdy totem]

lab levels increase line witdh so you stay with exp until you can reach it

[sudden wadi]

no point slowly lvling up just for a extra bonus

[atomic fable]

since I did test it

Alright, good to know it'll be around 90 pixels before I can reach brightside with 5

[sturdy totem]

when u get to w5 and get arctis it wont matter anyways

[sudden wadi]

make sure your db has every place unlocked

[vital bay]

every w6 map too?

[sudden wadi]

no

just the first 4

but the more the better

[sudden wadi]

or if you get lucky on doot

[vital bay]

aight, oh yeah because of wraith form right?

[sudden wadi]

no

to get db you pretty much have to kill every enemy in the game

[atomic fable]

OOH, this is how the game considers exp multiplier, is this increasable in World 4?

[sudden wadi]

skill eff

[atomic fable]

I think I have the efficiency talents maxed for my current book level

[sturdy totem]

card set

& star signs

[sudden wadi]

the chest in colo count as enemys (the chest in colo 1 are diffrent then colo 2 so kill all chest)
kill every miniboss that arnt in the colo like dr D
kill the guys in the hole if you have them unlocked

and you have to do all of this without switching to another character or else you'll have to restart

[vital bay]

oh really, and everything active too?

[iron jay]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/849473649832755231/1054865714026135612/unknown.png?ex=679b3f80&is=6799ee00&hm=9a2e5d4dedcc71830f2cb305934e8e9282e3ac83b04d709cb86d6848a18df621&

[sudden wadi]

you just have to kill 1 of each enemy but yes you CANT leave or go afk while doing this

[vital bay]

okay, should i unlock everything before getting db or can i just get db to get stronger and then do it?

[atomic fable]

I do have 1 of the items to help the lab efficiency, but the bubo isn't level 100

[sudden wadi]

this is the quest to get DB my man

[iron jay]

db quest - kill dif mob types

72 iirc

[vital bay]

omd XD alright

[sudden wadi]

they dont have to go only on your bubo

[atomic fable]

Oh

[sudden wadi]

everyone needs the eff to lvl up faster

[atomic fable]

The only character I have level 100+ on is my DK

[sturdy totem]

then level them up a bit in w4, it wont take long

[vague pendant]

is it normal to have horrible mana issues on bm when you first get it? i dont even have enough mana to cast whale wallop

[sturdy totem]

yeah

[sudden wadi]

yup

[vital bay]

my guy just chilling in lab without a class XD

[atomic fable]

This is my current levels of my character, is this okay for World 4 at the moment?

I'm not pushing with the bubo btw, just trying to get it some xp

(Maestro is Level 93 if wondering)

[sleek pollen]

any lvl is alright tbh most my char were 90 in w4 and same in w5 beside my pusher at the time

[atomic fable]

Alright

[sudden wadi]

when i first got to w6 my 2 main charecters were lvl 350 and 315

the rest were lvl 110

after a couple days of farming in w6 there all up to lvl 500+ now

[sleek pollen]

same tho I stopped mine at 300+ but I'll level up my char soon™

[gleaming trout]

I pushed all my chars to worms they like close to lvl 400 now just taking a pause and working on getting more damage for w6

[sudden wadi]

bro lvl 400 is way more then you need for the start of w6

[cerulean meteor]

yea LUL

[sleek pollen]

dmg can be worked on your way while pushing w6, tho I guess you do have something else to do

[cerulean meteor]

im only level 350, and im at trolls

[sleek pollen]

grrr btd6noob how dare you win that free bundle from contest

[cerulean meteor]

i didnt choose to win, lava chose for me ig

i didnt expect to win tbh

[sleek pollen]

https://tenor.com/view/fade-away-oooooooooooo-aga-emoji-crumble-gif-20008708

[slim bobcat]

just reached w4, any gear to focus on immediately vs ensuring my weapon is up to date

[cerulean meteor]

lab

[sleek pollen]

I like to see who's winning and seeing if I know them, so far only your name was the one I was most familiar with

[cerulean meteor]

focus on lab.

[gleaming trout]

damage is trash i remember seeing dudes statting world 6 with T damage lmao

plus i gotta other things to do in the other worlds

[sudden wadi]

you dont need t damage

[sleek pollen]

dementia gear and ice/void weapon, all char in lab while one char is pushing to his elites

[slim bobcat]

I just mean do I need to recraft my amarok gear or is there other stuff to build now

[gleaming trout]

whats min i need then

[cerulean meteor]

you only need like 100M

[slim bobcat]

ty

[cerulean meteor]

or at least that is what i have and im doing ok

at least afk ( my active sucks)

[sudden wadi]

3B

[gleaming trout]

Oh i got way more than that hehe

i think like 4000m?

[sudden wadi]

thats 4B

[gleaming trout]

idk last time i went i got one shotted

[cerulean meteor]

trust this guy more,

[cerulean meteor]

that is a def issue, not damage

[sleek pollen]

most of the time people with damage in T would be when w6 was just released and w5 endgame player started pushing w6 real fast

[sleek pollen]

def, hp, hemo, food

[sudden wadi]

the hardest enemy in w6 only has 10t hp

you dont need T damage

[cerulean meteor]

if he is getting one shot then food isnt valid

[gleaming trout]

sheesh maybe i can push for DB?

Yeah i got one shotted must been my def

[sleek pollen]

yeah pushing 4th map is fast

[cerulean meteor]

unequip NPNG, and get sushi/dumplings

[gleaming trout]

W6 food right?

[cerulean meteor]

depending on your hp

[sleek pollen]

also it'll do you good to push w6 to get new spice to unlock from breeding

[gleaming trout]

alright thanks guys ill push w6 soon then

[cerulean meteor]

how do i improve breeding, i only have up to biggie hours fight

[gleaming trout]

yeah slowly working on breeding man it so time gated rn sigh

[cerulean meteor]

well i completed that one, but i cant beat doot/w2 dugneon boss

[cerulean meteor]

ah ok

[sleek pollen]

!guide see the recommended team in pet tab, max BM's talent that increase pet battle power, try splicing for genes so you can get new pets faster

[candid scarab]

Mid-Late Game guide for World 3 / 4 / 5:
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/e/2PACX-1vSCepYAs6sNDP4iq6MJNAG1pvFXzfC_3IQ7ttt5vfEEKAgQhIk4cQqnLRyeH6UyqDSuP4R-6WQeDmmP/pubhtml
Video Guides (by GriffyBit):
https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLVGSDQs1AcvjYTAPtYV6ofbeeEfHpEcb4

[gleaming trout]

the pet combinations sheet helped me with my breeding tho

[cerulean meteor]

oh lol that is what im doing wrong

im not splicing lol

i just have BM in lab all day

[gleaming trout]

I gave up on splicing lmao

[sleek pollen]

I didn't till later but it can help yeah

[gleaming trout]

my splices expensive now

[sleek pollen]

same did a few times or like when I did long afk but then I forgot about it

[cerulean meteor]

ah ok

[gleaming trout]

Idk i just wait for the egg rarity to improve and do the breediablity thing now

[sleek pollen]

[gleaming trout]

Working on my pet odds for now

cooking really is important i missed alot of boosts neglecting it

I just afk BB there for days now i got over 50k+ ladles

[sleek pollen]

yep it'll really help with some of the missing meals maybe or making more and leveling them more

[gleaming trout]

thats how bad i neglected it

[sleek pollen]

welp you're halfway through it for the equinox's dream then that is using 100k ladle at once

[gleaming trout]

the checklist of the amount things i need do is insane oh boy

[sleek pollen]

me wanna farm with DB for grimoire bonus, but me wanna also cc farm but again me also wanna crystal farm with DK as I'm close to onyx some statues

[gleaming trout]

If i got DB i wouldnt have time to active him atm i wanna finish statue and gold food farming

green stacks with ES

[sleek pollen]

yeah well DB is in fact worth for ribbon at least as its easiest bonus you can get, rest is far in grimoire I think

[sleek pollen]

might have to do that too

[gleaming trout]

Lava going keep adding more grinds new caverns prob next on the list

[white path]

I'm ready

[sleek pollen]

I'm not

[gleaming trout]

cant complain more ways to boost the account

[coarse bobcat]

if i do 1m green mushroom kills with dk, i can still do it with the BB for cooking right?

[sleek pollen]

yeah zow/chow/schow/wow are needed to be done on BB

[vital bay]

i have totally forgot about my maestros gear, anyone got tips to how to get the yellow snowflakes fast?

[coarse bobcat]

ok so if i got 5.2m kills on dk. i start at 1 with bb to 1m

[sleek pollen]

farm with ES

[gleaming trout]

I used ES to farm the snowflakes

[gleaming trout]

if you got low drop rate might take a bit but es is the fastest

[vital bay]

ye its only 6x

[sleek pollen]

so I can hope that as soon as new hole update comes you get all the new things in one go?

[vital bay]

i dont even have the little custard idiot yet

[sleek pollen]

welp leave him for a few days and should be done maybe

[gleaming trout]

i think it took me couple days or so

[white path]

no

[sleek pollen]

https://tenor.com/view/fade-away-oooooooooooo-aga-emoji-crumble-gif-20008708

[gleaming trout]

but u will get there

[sleek pollen]

noooooooo John I looked up to you

[white path]

I only have explorer at 13 not 15 because it takes too long

[vital bay]

i have 40 tho so almost halfway there

[sleek pollen]

ye I'd guess so

[indigo stratus]

Does W4 just take more time to finish than W3

[gleaming trout]

If i remember i candy half way of w4

forgot what made me rush to w5

w4 you just put everyone in lab and have 1 main pusher for a bit

[indigo stratus]

I don't have the damage to push without farming to upgrade weapon

[vital bay]

is 3 colo tickets per the max?

[indigo stratus]

post office?

I think you can just use pens to farm tickets in the post office

[vital bay]

ye but like the daily tickets is only those 3

[sleek pollen]

yee but you'll need thousands upon thousands of pen to actually farm tickets and thats not something a w4 might wanna do x)

yep

also its better to save your colo tickets for later

when you'll actually farm colo for golden food for example

[scenic prawn]

What is the grey item?

I have collected splices from w1

[indigo stratus]

you have to trash pets

[scenic prawn]

lawl

And how is that done from storage exactly?

[indigo stratus]

from database

click trash down on lower left then trash the ones you don't need

[scenic prawn]

thx

[north root]

how do u boost my barb damage? i know it can be boosted with my hp but all of the hp is taken away by the no pain no gain talent

then i am only left with 281 hp

[atomic fable]

No pain no gain causes double damage as well, you can increase damage by getting more weapon power, more strength stat, or talents / cards that increase damage

[visual light]

what class shd I make on my 8th slot? I have all of them including maestro so far.

[sleek pollen]

Alch, stamps, cards, starsigns, po box, equinox, meals, sailing artifacts, divinities, W1 owl, W2 kangaroo, orange pots, dungeon flurbos, Hole, and levels/talents are all sources of damage

[sleek pollen]

second class should always be DK

9th and 10th for now (when you get them and new master class aren't released yet) proly best to keep them base archer and mage

[visual light]

oh, I was thinking of making another barbarian to fish. Since my current barbarian is my carry and exists to just progress

[sleek pollen]

nah another BB is bad, one BB can do most of the useful fish prints by himself
also DK or ES should be considered as your main pusher unless you cant active so then I understand the main pusher as BB is best afk pusher

[visual light]

ahh, yeah I only afk. But then I make my other squire also DK?

okay, thanks!

[sleek pollen]

yes once you use vman speedrun, he unlocks all the portals you ever unlocked on all char, so like you have one less char to think about pushing, and he sets his kills/deathnote at 2mil minimum unless the portal on the map of that mob is higher than 2M then it'll be more

I think there's a command about that but don't remember what it was

!vman

[candid scarab]

Losing deathnote kills after running your Void Trial is not a bug.
You'll have maps unlocked afterwards based on the furthest any of your characters have made it. Grats, progression is now easier, but go catch up on deathnote with other classes.
W6 note: ||This can also assist with passing the W6 locks if another character has cleared the map already, giving you a free pass.||

[meager marten]

Are trapping critters and souls good buys for gold ball shop?

[sleek pollen]

welp nvm found it @indigo stratus

[sleek pollen]

hmm I'd save for something else

ye it'll go to 2M or higher on vman

yep easy plat skull

[meager marten]

Well I have refinery, drop rate, and gold balls maxed. What would be good?

[sleek pollen]

hmmm idk then, honestly if you feel like it go for it, or hope something like villager exp will come back to max it

[daring pine]

Would it be unwise to drop all my characters into cooking for 2 days?

[crystal rock]

Have any of you ever faced the issue where for some reason you can't drop items into the alchemy cauldron anymore?

I've gotten my character to stand in a few spots and it is simply not working.

[sleek pollen]

no

[sleek pollen]

hit daily max attempt at vial ?

[crystal rock]

Nvm. I figured it out and I'm a dumbass haha

[daring pine]

Stand in the middle and check if it actually has a vail

[crystal rock]

No the issue was I was trying to drop something I already had a vial for. Just a dumb mistake on my part.

[stable parcel]

When you get to w4 bossroom map don't you just have to kill mobs for a key or does seeker make you do a quest? cant remember.

Im gonna try and candy up to the that map today and not sure if i need to save candy for that part

[daring pine]

So go for it?

[sleek pollen]

I wouldn't, unless you wanna level up cooking but the more you'd wait and get more bonus the faster leveling will be

[stable parcel]

There's 0 reason to drop ur chars in cooking, so YES it would be unwise.

You jsut use baloons and pearls to level cooking. Never try to afk that waste of time

unless ur on bb

[sleek pollen]

keys from quest are only in w1 to w3, w4+ you gotta farm in the last mobs, colo or miniboss

tho better not farm colo and waste tickets

[stable parcel]

Even on bb if you have EXTRA EXTRA balloons/pearls then you should get his cooking as high as possible before everyone elses. but regardless you should not intentionally try to level anyones cooking through afking cooking

BB is there for ladles not xp

[stable parcel]

oh for keys? haha ya not a good idea

[sleek pollen]

also like you're w4? or w6

[sleek pollen]

well for colo you want to save your tickets for later for when you'll want to farm golden foods

[stable parcel]

ya ik, i wasnt gonna go collo 🤷‍♂️

[eager sphinx]

Where is the equinox

Dang I was scrolled up a bit-

[sleek pollen]

equinox is secret map in w3, I wouldn't think about it if I were you

mobs to get there are stronger than first half of w4 mobs

[eager sphinx]

Also about the hole- what map is it in?

[stable parcel]

fair

w5

[eager sphinx]

Ah yeah when ya name all buffs in game I get confused if I missed it and should have had it

Like how I missed star signs originally

[stable parcel]

star signs is the easy one to miss, otherwise if you just make sure you explore a little then you find stuff

star signs is weird cause its 3 maps off course. the rest are just a single portal and lava has been making some of them more obvious

[eager sphinx]

Yeah I have pretty much cut out exploration keeping my stuff on target like mages were cutting and barb push while squire mined (They all are not anymore but still)

Now I have barb and squire pushing together barb will reach there first still its 5k kills away but when its bb I will use it to catch up on w1 stuff like multikill, stamps, cards, statues, etc so while I push with DK my BB catches me up on stuff I missed

How my roo looking btw?

[stable parcel]

pretty nice pretty nice

ty

[eager sphinx]

I am tryna get the bonus spirals to be 100 on each with red as 400 dunno if that will even things out a little bit but yeah

[ebon kestrel]

Is there any way to guarantee double ulti cogs? I've been spamming these things for two hours and I just keep getting normal ones.

[stable parcel]

random

i think higher lvl raises chances

[oak yacht]

Is there a guide for this I didnt see it in the pet battle guide

[eager sphinx]

Slowly tryna improve my gear (Dont have helmet unlocked funnily enough and my chestplate and boots are mage w4 stoned)

[slim mantle]

peapod looter gap refiller gap borger

[stable parcel]

no reason to get amarok helm, that mining helm is pretty good anyway

[eager sphinx]

Yeah I am tryna work on some pants for my squire

Also should try and get a better weapon he has been stuck with this one for a long while now-

But the nuget cakes T-T

[slim mantle]

got es yet? he can farm those easily

[eager sphinx]

I need 7 if I include the fact I am tryna get a better food pouch

[eager sphinx]

I dont even have a single elite class

Pushing my barb and squire to elite

[stable parcel]

ya focus elite classes first

by the time u get to elite classes you should feel like you just hiked 1000 miles with no shoes, but then you can get shoes and other nice st uff

[slim mantle]

don't mind the weapon until u do then, I'd recommend making shaman - hunter - wizard elite in that order to get the most benefits

[eager sphinx]

Alrighty

[eager sphinx]

Eh who needs shoes anyways? Wait do I get socks at least?

[stable parcel]

i'd personally get wizard after shaman but how you order t hem after shaman is mostly dependent on where you're at

[stable parcel]

holes in them

[eager sphinx]

Eh at least they ain't soggy

[eager sphinx]

Well wizard is mostly an active right?

[slim mantle]

shaman to buff lab, hunter to buff breeding, wizard to farm materials :p

[atomic fable]

I still haven't unlocked all my elite classes yet, should I focus on that?

[stable parcel]

ya, are u the one who is all afk?

[bronze moth]

yes that's first priority

[eager sphinx]

No I active a DK

[stable parcel]

well for farming stuff like nugets, wood circles etc, yhou will want to use active ES and let DK be afk

[slim mantle]

how do you active an elite class when u don't have elite classes yet

[eager sphinx]

Shhhhhh pretend I do

[slim mantle]

every elite class has their own purpose, you use them accordingly

[eager sphinx]

K

If I just had 3 1 hr candies I would be tasting a lovely BB's power...

[stable parcel]

.< so sad taht your BB will be your first elite lol

[eager sphinx]

It makes sense I did push w3 with him

[slim mantle]

he is pretty much useless now that ur w4

[eager sphinx]

He is like my partner at this point so I dont wanna jail him

[slim mantle]

you will jail him

[eager sphinx]

He is gonna be in w1 again

[slim mantle]

do you love to waste your time? cuz that's how you waste ur time

[eager sphinx]

I am gonna have him collect cards, stamps, and statues

Oh also I can get obols while I am there

[slim mantle]

I repeat, waste of time, big time

[eager sphinx]

My DK has got my push how am I wasting time tryna collect buffs?

Well- my squire currently...

[slim mantle]

you are getting shit on ur bb there, only place at that point of time that hes useful is slaving away in the lab

[eager sphinx]

Such a waste its gonna take forever to get him somewhere to collect nodes

Legit 3 days and I still barely past the dang print node with 4 characters in it

[slim mantle]

you need him in there to level up to reach further anyway and trust me, he ain't getting shit done doing anything else

you need to put all chars in besides the one ur active on

[proper pivot]

Is it worth getting lab shoes/rings for everyone before putting them all in lab and pushing?

[eager sphinx]

How do I even get those?

[slim mantle]

u can see if they make any difference at all even for the character in question by swapping it around, early on probably not making that much difference and a bit hard to get that many so probably not worth

[slim mantle]

mob drops

[eager sphinx]

I- can't really argue with these things despite wanting to collect things I missed cuz I am behind on them

Still gonna get BB tho I been with him most my gameplay would feel wrong to cut him off on a promotion

[slim mantle]

such as? cuz ur bb afk at w1 for statues... it's a joke, forget about that lol, in w6 ur dk can start to take care of that

[eager sphinx]

He is a good afk tbf

[slim mantle]

and statues are awful afk

[stable parcel]

You are going to realize that you will push worlds way faster than you have time to keep everything 'caught up'.

Just expect that to be the norm and don't worry about missing smaller things

[slim mantle]

and that early on ur bb is barely gonna be getting kills anyway

[eager sphinx]

I was looking forward to explosions unfortunately

[bronze moth]

i hit 1k str today

and almost at 900k dmg

[eager sphinx]

To the lab he goes I guess when I am done-

Disappointing

At least I might be able to reach nblb possibly by tommorrow

[slim mantle]

you wouldn't play bb actively anyway, most garbage elite class for active play by a long shot and it would be explosion, if you even meet the requirement which during active it often enough wouldn't, it's not until it's master class in w6 that he can do frequent explosions

[eager sphinx]

yeah but I could for a moment watch them blow to smithereens

[light pendant]

For confirmation the highest dish level is 90, right?

[zenith hare]

not anymore

110 is the new highest

[slim mantle]

and then watch nothing respawn while ur other classes are capable of respawning mobs to kill them again 🙂

[eager sphinx]

I love explosions

[zenith hare]

DB has a bonus that gives +20 levels

[eager sphinx]

Yeah sad

[light pendant]

Ok, thanks

[atomic fable]

I got my bubo to level 90, is that good enough for now for w4?

[eager sphinx]

Wait- DK can respawn enemies???

[sleek pollen]

yes hand talents

if all enemies on screen are dead, they will respawn

[eager sphinx]

Ooooo cool

[slim mantle]

so you already decided dk would be ur pusher without even knowing how he works? cuz es is also a very capable choice for active pushing, both of those are fine but u might wanna know their mechanics before chosing? :p

[sleek stone]

Thats why dk for pushing stage

[stable parcel]

A lot of people make bb their pusher early because he has a high KPH w1-w2. They don't know that it will fall off later

[eager sphinx]

I am doing what I was told DK or ES and I like the warrior so DK

[stable parcel]

It's not like you can't change your pusher after getting all elites if u mess up 😂

[slim mantle]

I went for es while I mained barbarian before just like u, cuz es is the better pusher :p but squishy, dk is the safe route, slower but hella unlikely to die

[atomic fable]

The 2 elite classes I am missing is the bowman and barbarian ones, which one do I go for 1st?

[slim mantle]

either one is fine

[eager sphinx]

Yeah I prefer not being squishy and rely entirely on my foods not to end up on the floor

[atomic fable]

I will note since I found out while leveling up bubo, if you wait 10 minutes, the game auto respawns you on the same map

[sleek pollen]

bb does have highest kph usually, as he have monster decimator so people would think he's best (he is at afk) while DK and ES are better at active pushing

[stable parcel]

If you guys use ES to push make sure you get Pulsation star talent from w2 bosses sooner than later

[slim mantle]

yeah it does that now, didn't used to :p

[stable parcel]

Wait reallly? ya it used to send you to town

[slim mantle]

yeah it was changed like idk, half a year or so ago

[stable parcel]

nice change, good to know lol

[eager sphinx]

I am being stupid I was too busy here I forgot to change back to my squire XD

Afk a squire and active a barb what a waste

What I really wanna do is Bubo. Alchemy and I can raise up those ghost things

But I would have to put a lot of work into him

[slim mantle]

bubo is a lab slave until atleast w6 cuz ur not gonna get lvl 200 talents on him before

[stable parcel]

thats like a LATE w5 early w6 thing

[eager sphinx]

It is a wanna do not gonna do

I already know it will take a lot of work for it to be operational

Hmmmmm

Ya thinking I can get this to 1k kill per hour quickly?

Like within 8 hours?

[stable parcel]

If you can get your accuracy up naturally so you can remove that prayer

[hoary hatch]

Is there a reason to grind out some breedability levels?
My shinies are all level 6+ , and 12-14 on betters ones

[eager sphinx]

I need to wait for more amarok rocks

[slim mantle]

whats ur dmg? got this star talent? u can try move speed potions

[slim mantle]

technically u could for tome points

[eager sphinx]

Dont ask about the dice I was early in the game and really stupid

I dont wanna talk about that talent

[eager sphinx]

Getting this up too

[eager sphinx]

I said I didnt wanna talk about it and also its in the plans

[slim mantle]

what about this one? I'd recommend getting it to 50 now that ur w4 lol

[atomic fable]

I have 23.5k accuracy on my DK, is that good enough for world 4?

[eager sphinx]

I wish I did it sooner tbh but yeah I know and am trying

[pine fiber]

wont be enough for last map

[atomic fable]

Okay, so still need a bit more

[slim mantle]

to just push? yes, to have 1.5x dmg? not on all

[pine fiber]

3.5k more, yes

or something around 27k for stilted seekers

[eager sphinx]

I am not tryna focus on them too much while I get my elite classes

[pine fiber]

well then yeah, 25k

dunno why I remembered 18k accuracy for them

[slim mantle]

maybe because it's 18k for the first 3 w5 mobs

[pine fiber]

ah yeah true, suggmas are 18k

[atomic fable]

I think I got enough, right?

[pine fiber]

I swear I'm getting better construction xp% cogs from superb

yeah thats plenty for w4

obviously not accounting for crystals

[slim mantle]

https://tenor.com/view/rng-math-is-math-anime-gif-15574670008862758876

[atomic fable]

yeah, if crystals spawn, they might take longer to deal with

[stable parcel]

eh whts smith lvl req to make void scythe?

[eager sphinx]

Which one first

[eager sphinx]

lol

[slim mantle]

1x kitchen

[eager sphinx]

Done

Already

[pine fiber]

depends on the budget

[slim mantle]

I believe u need 2x egg capacity for an achievement

[eager sphinx]

Just pick 1 of whatever

[pine fiber]

bro, its your wallet not mine

[eager sphinx]

Exactly so my budget shouldnt matter which

[atomic fable]

Do I start the push or finish my elite classes 1st

[pine fiber]

idk, I maxed out souped up tubes

[eager sphinx]

K I will buy a souped tube

[stable parcel]

both 😏

[pine fiber]

and I always buy the weekly 2 jewels

[west ingot]

Clammies going to slow

[slim mantle]

souped tubes is more of a whale purchase tbh

[eager sphinx]

I can buy it

[pine fiber]

exactly my point occido

[eager sphinx]

I just wanted to know what is optimal I have the gems

[west ingot]

You can push while getting elite classes, you should've had them all by now. Best thing I can say is to stop getting side tracked and elites are your main goal

[slim mantle]

simply put, if it's a whale purchase it's not something you want when asking for optimal stuff :p

[eager sphinx]

I dont know what is optimal

[pine fiber]

1-2 kitchens are good to have since they are the easiest to upgrade

[atomic fable]

yeah, maybe I should finish off my elite classes 1st

[eager sphinx]

Yeah I have 1 kitchen

I could get another ig

[slim mantle]

theres nothing wrong with saving gems till later, 1x kitchen is just the main important thing from there for the time being, the rest is extra

[pine fiber]

yeah you'll need gems in w5 and w6 too

dont spend just cuz you have it now