midgame-chat-w3🧊w4🔮

[north root]

ohh thats gonna take days

[atomic fable]

I think this is a better owl position, right? (Notice how bonus and mega reset are more closer?)

[white lintel]

You haven’t mega reset owl yet?

[atomic fable]

I'm on mega 9

[white lintel]

Ah ok

[north root]

damn level 24

but yeah the bonuses are good

[uneven obsidian]

yeah at the point im at i just look at IT to see when i can reset next XD

might go faster if i remember to look at it every few day to spend feathers

[north root]

cant use this website because i logged in from steam 😦

[uneven obsidian]

lava really need to get the steam credential to work on the web version so this issue get fixed

[north root]

ikr i cant log in from my phone though thats for the good xD

[cold jetty]

ngl i'm more impressed by the bonuses of orion lvl 29

[bleak sleet]

[north root]

but that was possible because of the fractal feather so thats also nice

[cold jetty]

i mean 10k per hour

[north root]

also what does the feather mean those blue feather in the bonus bar

[cold jetty]

shiny feather

[north root]

shiny feathers?

[sleek pollen]

surely you can get killer brightside before killing w4 boss (its the node with skulls), it gives you x2 kill count on portal and deathnote, making your pushing faster and I think I got it mid w4

[cold jetty]

if i'm not wrong it boost your feather generation by 1%

[sleek pollen]

7th owl upgrade

[uneven obsidian]

the bottom right upgrade uses them

[sleek pollen]

also randomly gets shiny feathers once you have it bought

[sleek pollen]

oh yeah well still I'd say wait till end w5 / early w6, also what world you're in?

[cold jetty]

w4

[sleek pollen]

welp best you could do is at least wait till w5 so you can get another bonus that gives x2 kill count (like killer brightside from lab, you'll get x4 with both on)

lmao auto mod is fast

[willow sierra]

Are AFK Gains numbers updated when you have a prayer on, or do I need to math it out myself. i.e. the first prayer for mob HP and increased class XP, will the AFK tab show me the updated numbers?

[sleek pollen]

it should I reckon

[uneven obsidian]

pretty sure it does yeah

[willow sierra]

ok neat, I suppose I can go into sheepies, grab the numbers, then apply the prayer and check again....

[sleek pollen]

you could always look at it yourself by comparing with and without the prayer on a random map and see if the kph or any other stat change

[stable parcel]

These last levels always feel like FOREVER

[visual tangle]

hii, does anyone know which items are easiest to greenstack 4 equinox? i am currentliy stuck with 200

[atomic fable]

GG! Mega feather 10

[sleek pollen]

surely the auto review has it

!review

[candid scarab]

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[visual tangle]

ah ok, thx 🙂

[north root]

congs

[north root]

so true

[lilac ingot]

is there any reason i should wait to go to world 3 when only 1 of my characters can access it?

[cold jetty]

I don't think so

[stable parcel]

no, thats the norm. GO GO GO.
once that char goes in then the others can enter it through the main portal too, and they should do that

[cinder needle]

no, never wait to get into a new world, always go

[lilac ingot]

world 3 here i come 🙂

[cinder needle]

doesn’t matter if you get 1 kill per hour, just go

[stable parcel]

but hopefully that only happens once u hit w5/w6 lol

[cinder needle]

i spent so little time in w5 it’s actually criminal lmao

[stable parcel]

howd u manage taht

[cinder needle]

i put dk on pushing and the rest on divinity and just let that go on for like a month or something

[stable parcel]

oh lol

a month is still paying your time

[cinder needle]

yeah but it was for divinity so it was worth it. was able to roll doot shortly into w6

[stable parcel]

as soon as i hit w5 and get goat im putting all my chars in lab and taking a vacation -.-

[sleek pollen]

GOHARUT MENTIONNED

[exotic fractal]

how does this work ?

[sleek pollen]

knockouts = one shot bare handed

[stable parcel]

take off weapon , kill mushroom.

[sleek pollen]

press ? for more info

[stable parcel]

strong w6 question in w3-w4 chat lmao

[sleek pollen]

oh yeah right without weapon

[sleek pollen]

just as usual imo

[exotic fractal]

ty

[stable parcel]

i like to go to w6 to ask w2 questions.. not other way around

[exotic fractal]

mb

[cinder needle]

real questioning is w6 questions in w1-2 chat and getting an answer in 5 seconds

[stable parcel]

im teasing, im not the one who might care lol

[sleek pollen]

seen that happen way to many times than for early w1/w2 questions (Its me I'm the problem, I'm answering questions unrelated to w1w2 when I'm around like some other)

[cinder needle]

sometimes you have to flex on the dude that started 2 days ago with 3 copper asking “how do i get more accuracy”

[stable parcel]

No one ever got hurt flexing their 100b copper print on the w1 who just killed their first mushroom

xcept the mushroom

[young jetty]

Is there any similar game to orion or kangaroo fishing in w3 or w4?

[exotic swallow]

no

[stable parcel]

not yet.. and if there ever is probably not for a long time

[exotic swallow]

gladly

[young jetty]

Considering w3 required a secret map and stuff, I may have missed on in w3. Ok, thank you

[sleek pollen]

how to get more acc? just get meals

[sleek pollen]

w3 'secret map' is the equinox, but like the mobs you need to kill to get there are fucking strong, like mid w4 proly? idk I unlocked the equinox when I was in w5 I reckon

[young jetty]

Yeah, no. I'm not "really" in w4. I unlocked the town and the first room and the mobs wiped the floor with my 93 wizard.

Or well, could do it with tons of food but I have lots of things to do in all the other worlds still. Back to mining and chopping so I can get efaunt gear

And swapping to the squire to push I think

[sleek pollen]

you could get one set of dementia armor that you'll move between all your char when they are pushing one at a time, also fmj bubble gives and increase def

your goal is to get all elites asap

[atomic fable]

Okay, should I move my es to monster drop farming now that I got mega feather 10

[young jetty]

That's not a bad idea actually

[sleek pollen]

like get one char to push on 4th map to get his elite while your other char are sitting in lab jail

[stable parcel]

when i was w1-w2 all the w5'ers were saying ' just get your alch bubble to lvl 5000000 like us'

[young jetty]

Is the lab worth pushing immediately?

[sleek pollen]

so true like I'm there listing all the accuracy sources an w1w2 player can get and someone just show a one gazillion lvl shaqu

[stable parcel]

probably. that's what my ES has been doing while my DK is pushing w4

[atomic fable]

Alright

[sleek pollen]

you wanna lab all your char asap so they get lab level, with each level giving more line width, to being able to connect to more lab node

once you're in w4 and later worlds its basically jail everytime

[stable parcel]

ya you always want to have some characters in there slowly leveling it. IF you don't put 6 chars in 'lab prison' then by the time you hit w5 lab will actually be useful to u lol.

But if u can get a few characters to the 3rd bonus at reset then it will help your bbubles and pushing, and always have the minimum amt of people to keep donig 2x prints, which is the 2nd bonus

[young jetty]

hmm, I have a line width card around here somewhere.

[iron jay]

as i remember - only lines between chars? or connection range too?

[stable parcel]

connection range for nodes that don't have a set range

[sleek pollen]

line width = line between char

[iron jay]

oh, ofc

[sleek pollen]

connection range is just a few upgrade here and there

[indigo stratus]

it's at least worth it to always slap your chars in lab before daily reset

[iron jay]

my bad

[sleek pollen]

🫡

[indigo stratus]

for the free alchemy

[iron jay]

lab was too long time ago for me

[stable parcel]

I don't believe in lab jail or div jail, but some people like that playstyle. It works

w6 sneaking jail

[iron jay]

nope, sneaking is passive skill

[sleek pollen]

yeah true that, like if you have one char thats pushing or xping and you need him to get NBLB, connect that char in lab a bit before resets then after it he can go back to what he was doing

[sleek pollen]

hole jail

[stable parcel]

Nope, you put the characters soul into sneaking jail forever

[indigo stratus]

idk how you even level up refinery without lab jail's 3x boost

[iron jay]

gods

[stable parcel]

I have only used refinery boost like 50% of the time since ive been w4. I dont need a high lvl refinery rn so why would u wanna rush lvling?

[iron jay]

(or doot)

[indigo stratus]

isn't gods w5 though

[iron jay]

yep

[sleek pollen]

you don't or you're end game w6

[stable parcel]

This is sneaking jail but i'm

[indigo stratus]

w5 op

[stable parcel]

w5 just makes lab jail feel less painful is all

[iron jay]

lab jail -> divinity jail

hahah

[torpid acorn]

Div jail becomes lab jail unfortunately

[stable parcel]

lab jail --> div jail --> brave jail --> justice jail

Lava getting his sense of justice off on putting us all in jail

[torpid acorn]

Is there a way to do brave jail properly? Doing the math makes it take 100 days

[iron jay]

Nothingness jail

[sleek pollen]

lab > div > lab > bravery > lab > bravery > justice > lab > lab > lab

[torpid acorn]

LABBBBBBB

[stable parcel]

As you lvl it you get boosts to make 1 hr worth more. but depending on yhour progression you aren't going to try to max brave/justice jail ASAP. you will do some, then come back

[sleek pollen]

all char in it, at one point you can get afk monument% bonus, making you get more hours

[iron jay]

Lab will end after 2100 family lab lvl

[torpid acorn]

Ah ok, wheres the bonus?

[stable parcel]

is 2100 max rift bonus?

[sleek pollen]

2100 is because of jade empo lab bling, giving a new jewel every 700 lab level

[atomic fable]

btw, I found out mana is life is helpful

because while active, it gives mk per tier

[stable parcel]

oh that

[sleek pollen]

first is bravery, second is justice, decay is scale type, and 50% is cap

[supple bison]

Any suggestions for 5 man pet team (unlocked up to and including snelby)?

[sleek pollen]

oh yeah thats why usually wizard/es has usually the best monster prints early on

[atomic fable]

I have him at log prints

[sleek pollen]

!guide has pet tab for all arena and spice team

[candid scarab]

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[supple bison]

Thanks guys 🙂

[sleek pollen]

🫡

[young jetty]

New goal then. Get that crafting tab. Only need ~400 more plat bars for that.

[indigo stratus]

So the only way to reliably get the stamps that only drop from the bubble is to level the bubble up before 7th character right?

[atomic fable]

Is it bad I have my es on log prints?

[torpid acorn]

I beleive thats normal actually.

I do upper logs as my first wis and lower on my second

Cuz first tends to have more skill eff becuase ive hardly backtracked

[sleek pollen]

well eventually you'll level up a lot to trigger that but yeah

[torpid acorn]

If you have more slots though put maybe some mob drops so your using all your sample slots

[atomic fable]

All 10 slots for me are on logs

[torpid acorn]

Make sure you dont have dupes since you dont typically need them

Ive heard of double oak log but from a griffy vid so who knows

[stable parcel]

When you REALLY need something then doing doubles makes sense.

Late gamers getting atoms will dupe on copper and oak

[torpid acorn]

Ah ic. It depends a lot on what daily sample mults you have then ig

And how active you are to fix it

[stable parcel]

'daily sample' wym?

[torpid acorn]

For example the artifact that gives i beleive 2% multiplicative per day to sample rate

I think its the gold skull looking one?

[stable parcel]

oooh yea, that incentivizes you to not re-sample too often.

[torpid acorn]

There was also a bonus during last giftmas

[stable parcel]

So lots of people just dont sample often.
My most recent samples on my main went from 10-40ms to 1b + on some.

[torpid acorn]

Lol

[stable parcel]

but early/mid game changing samples often doesn't hurt and often can help if you ahve time to maintain it

but something like oak logs on ES makes most sense but you don't always need a ton of oak early game so whether you are printing it or not is just determined by what you need at the time

[torpid acorn]

Fair, i had a lot of issue that my samples were very inconsistent with how aggressively i was pushing W6

Im still in lab jail tho so no fixing it yet

Second lab jail that is

[stable parcel]

o.o IMO fix it before lab jail tho..

if they are just sitting their doing nothing but printing.... might as well print a lot haha

[sleek pollen]

well early on thats not very useful for you, its better for end/late game player as they already have high enough prints so kinda pointless to get a higher print (unless big numba make monke brain neuron activation)

[torpid acorn]

Maybe. If im fixing my gear eff im fixing all my gear including my mob rates

[stable parcel]

moar atoms 🤷‍♂️

[indigo stratus]

Is two blood berserkers viable or should I spend all my gems to swap second berserker to squire

[stable parcel]

ot

[sleek pollen]

2 DK > 2 BB

bb meta was long ago
double dk is great for construction

[indigo stratus]

but that 500 gem price

[sleek pollen]

tho some would argue to about it because master class but idk about it

[torpid acorn]

Worth it for the construction trust me

[stable parcel]

2bb is sort of a waste but not the end of the world. late w6 though it's super farming and sneaking so it's more viable than it used to be

[young jetty]

I guess this is my life now

[sleek pollen]

yeah second is annoying to do and most of the time the second one will be useless

[torpid acorn]

Probably switch after your construction isnt breathing out of a tube

[iron jay]

why not use this?

[sleek pollen]

lmao something was bugging me on that pic x)

[young jetty]

never noticed the button 😄

[sleek pollen]

guess no hour count

[atomic fable]

I usually have the timer enabled on the player menu

[young jetty]

I've seen it in the cloud save/char selection and it's on there though

[cold wraith]

10k when?

[iron jay]

5k anniversary soonTM

[sleek pollen]

https://tenor.com/view/fade-away-oooooooooooo-aga-emoji-crumble-gif-20008708

10k class exp of course

[iron jay]

GT bubble is my personal copium

[atomic fable]

I might not be able to grind the gt bubble for a while

[sleek pollen]

dont

[cold wraith]

dont until you have active bubo

[sleek pollen]

its just later things

like my man waffler is a super duper endgame so he can easily farm that

[torpid acorn]

[cold wraith]

do i want the lab node acdtive when farming bubo cc

[iron jay]

Equinox upgrade + active bubo while you sleep

[sleek pollen]

also hey @cold wraith I almost haave liquidvestement at 99%

[cold wraith]

hmm

[cold wraith]

i have yet to get that dream done

[iron jay]

gratz

[sleek pollen]

nice one

[atomic fable]

I was about to say why I have 28 gems in inventory, but I now realise giant monsters resetted for me

[sleek pollen]

nooooo how can you I looked up to you

[cold wraith]

dude im just not getting any

[torpid acorn]

Never meet your heroes

[cold wraith]

ive been just upgrading the dr upgrade

[sleek pollen]

welp jokes on you I'll one day meet the waffler

[stable parcel]

does waffle know that?

[cold wraith]

been upgrading ts instead

[sleek pollen]

just ditch your DK from the board and put them making cogs

[cold wraith]

hold on first good idea from you so far

lets see if i instant make purple cogs

[sleek pollen]

yeah idk I just got the connection range one, almost done with 140 shrine lvl

[cold wraith]

these are mine so far

[sleek pollen]

werid yippie but I'll take it

[torpid acorn]

Please nobody listen to these clowns

[atomic fable]

You guys think it might be worth the build rate decrease to add more exp cogs?

[sleek pollen]

argh fk I'm fucked for lvl 500 and 2k killroy

[torpid acorn]

Someones gonna put their only dk in urple cogs and im blaming you

[sleek pollen]

yes

[atomic fable]

Alright

[cold wraith]

i can do the cogs, w2 dungeon dream, 1b sample which i havent unlocked yet, and that is all

literally every dream after those 3 i cant do yet

side note i am getting closer to luckier lad

[stable parcel]

anyone know the dedated rams xp vs like w4 genies?

[sleek pollen]

xp better so your squire can lvl faster so the bubble (idk which one call me bob maybe or the one after or before) that gives build rate per construction lvl

[torpid acorn]

Sort completely on xp too and order them. It makes it easier to update

[atomic fable]

Alright, I'll work on that during sand pots

[sleek pollen]

snakenhotep

[cold wraith]

literally cant do i keep crashing

ive alr done w3 dungeon

[torpid acorn]

I havnt even done snakenhotep once

[sleek pollen]

tried like 10 times, always failed some tasks so couldn't hit the last one and did a few with others kept crashing too

[cold wraith]

i have 72 lucky lads!

i just need 23 more and then i can filter them

[torpid acorn]

Snakenhotep is only good for the achieve right?

[cold wraith]

and dream

[sleek pollen]

ye

[torpid acorn]

Wanna make sure i havnt been bricking my acc

[sleek pollen]

only reason you'd do w2 or w3 dungeon is any achievments or dream

[cold wraith]

@sleek pollen whats your build rate

oh yea i instant make purple with dk

[torpid acorn]

Damn

I want that kinda rates

How many cogs per second?

[atomic fable]

I have so many exp cogs that are 10-20%

[cold wraith]

i mean one

why havent i been doing this

[torpid acorn]

Ngl you could probably get like a full field of >100% urples if you just sit there for a few hours

[sleek pollen]

uh something like 3mil I think?

[cold wraith]

i dont want to tho

[sleek pollen]

[cold wraith]

have you not been doing summoning

[sleek pollen]

I should book my DK's constructions talent to max

[stable parcel]

how does summoning affect const?

[cold wraith]

theres a bonus that improves build rate

i think my bonus rn is 2.5x or smth like that

[stable parcel]

in summoning...?

[sleek pollen]

welp already got all the wins I could get recently, now slowly leveling bonus like always

yeah summoning just gives bonus for anything

[stable parcel]

oh the chest rewards

[sleek pollen]

even for the most important, world 7

[sleek pollen]

hmm imma look where you get that

[cold wraith]

these are my bonuses so far

[torpid acorn]

I havnt seen that yet but my summoning is still only like 5 levels in

[scenic prawn]

So I have built two shrines. Can i place them or not?

[cold wraith]

yes

place them where you afk most

[atomic fable]

Finally sorted the exp from lowest to highest, this good?

[scenic prawn]

Obv. But I am to stupid to figure out how to place them

[torpid acorn]

Oh lord the dks

[scenic prawn]

Watched on youtube, and he had an "attack option" to place them...

Me do not have that

[sleek pollen]

hmm yeah its my next few win on blue and purple that i'll get construction speed bonus

[torpid acorn]

The dks shouldnt be ranked the same way, you gotta add some of the buff cogs to target them like downers and such

[sleek pollen]

finish hoggindaz quest line

[atomic fable]

True, I just placed him there

[cold wraith]

need this but i cant beat it

[atomic fable]

because I was sorting the cogs

[scenic prawn]

Makes sense...

[cold wraith]

actually let me try that battle again i pumped up my essence a bit a few days ago

[torpid acorn]

Eventually youll want it to look like this

[cold wraith]

later

[torpid acorn]

Yeah lemme show my build rn actually

[cold wraith]

i have a decent amt of xp

[atomic fable]

Oh, I see

[torpid acorn]

Maybe ignore the side pointers aiming at the flags, idk if the flag speed is meta or not

[cinder needle]

flag speed is a dead stat after all the board is unlocked

[stable parcel]

why are those 4 not at least making cogs

[cinder needle]

it’s useless after, the meta is xp

[torpid acorn]

Yeah ik its useless after but im unsure about during

[cold wraith]

yikes it went down by 550%

[torpid acorn]

Becuase i got sick of sorting more cogs lmao

[cinder needle]

honestly you’ll get them all eventually, just have the flag speed tick up in the background

[north root]

how in the world did my wizard suddenly reach 37k damage from 20k

[torpid acorn]

But the flaggy rate increases the build and xp rate by consequence, so its certainly worth some cogs at least when the additive is more effective

[indigo stratus]

are the big cogs gem shop

[stable parcel]

ya thats 4 gem shop cogs put together

[cold wraith]

they really expensive

[north root]

do wizards have more damage in general?

[cinder needle]

the class or the tower

[stable parcel]

if you just spent a bunch of talents they could peak 🤷‍♂️

the class

[north root]

i just upgraded the paperwork talent to fuill and it reached 40k

[stable parcel]

Yes that talent has massive damage in it esp if you sat on it for a while

[cold wraith]

@sleek pollen you are so right

[empty mulch]

!gear w

[candid scarab]

Gear Recommendations

[cold wraith]

#bot-commands

[empty mulch]

mb

[pine fiber]

I did some vman speedrun shenanigans but sadly I didnt change omni for snehebatu, so the print isnt as good as it couldve been

but yeah

[uneven obsidian]

its still a decent upgrade

[pine fiber]

oh yeah definitely, this has been a nice snowball so far

I just wish I had mob respawn on him

[gloomy summit]

What's the best spice farm setup nowadays?

[sleek pollen]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-gif-16847314810084971000

now gimme kiss waffler

[pine fiber]

good luck, brother

[torpid acorn]

Freakyoums has entered the chat

[sleek pollen]

expect the prints on the left side for your first few speedrun (and weeks proly)

[sleek pollen]

https://tenor.com/bEggT.gif

[pine fiber]

make sure you take the print after you did amarok

[sleek pollen]

joke on you I was always there

also why 2 days? waiting gmush kills?

ah just throw all your char doing it if you didn't already

[pine fiber]

just get unlucky and pop 21 days with a cosmic candy like I did

[atomic fable]

I was wondering why my game was lagging

but turns out I inventory capped lol

[torpid acorn]

[sleek pollen]

yeah happens alot when you farm with ES at least

[cold wraith]

not sure this is worth the 140% xp boost decrease

[sleek pollen]

ah rip

just candy it

[atomic fable]

my lowest exp cog % right now is 11%

[cold wraith]

surely i beat this

[sleek pollen]

https://tenor.com/view/fade-away-oooooooooooo-aga-emoji-crumble-gif-20008708

ah fair enough then

[sleek pollen]

might we stop talking about non w3w4 things pretty please

[sleek pollen]

yeah waffler's cogs and bonus are huge becaose he's far into the far, like even me my max is not even 80ish

[atomic fable]

I'll work on slowly getting rid of all my lower exp cogs

[pine fiber]

is there a way to add talent points to vman from alchemy? or that only applies to archers, warriors and mages?

[sleek pollen]

doesn't work for vman talents tab, other yeah

[cold wraith]

wooo

[pine fiber]

yeah I meant the first 3 tabs, my bad if I was unclear

[atomic fable]

IS it fine if my cogs aren't fully efficient at the moment?

since my build rate is a bit low

[pine fiber]

just make sure you are using xp% cogs

your build rate will come from both DKs anyway

[sleek pollen]

oh yeah if you have like the thingy from killroy or stamps that gives talent in tab 1/2/3 it works

[sleek pollen]

gz

[cerulean meteor]

how do i do vman speedruns

i mean get new records

[atomic fable]

If I get another exp cog that's higher, my lowest will become 12%

[pine fiber]

there is a guide on it in #1084911530417606656 , maybe even 2

[atomic fable]

Got another 18%

[pine fiber]

tbf, I just came to bamboo spirits to level him, choco chip is saving the day with crystal spawns

[sleek pollen]

ye

[atomic fable]

Is it maybe worth it to try to reach a total level of 750 on all characters?

to unlock my 8th character

[sleek pollen]

yeah new char always good to have

[pine fiber]

its always a goal to get all your characters

[atomic fable]

I still need over 100 levels

so it can be a gradual thing but do I prioritise it over lab?

[sleek pollen]

welp gotta make all your char get 14+ levels in average

[atomic fable]

Do I prioritise getting character levels > lab levels?

[sleek pollen]

hmm lab better imo, or like if you can still have some bonus like killer brightside by removing some char, go make them level up

[atomic fable]

I can't reach brightside yet

even with 6 characters

[sleek pollen]

[atomic fable]

I can reach the printer with 3 and the refinery with 4

[lost ibex]

You farm lab with everything but like 1-2 pushing characters, until you get to Lab 75. I didn't do it this way... but that's a solid way to keep progressing and still get your lab done. Note: Lab Shoes and Rings will make this Lab grind a bit easier...

[sleek stone]

Btw is mastery is good?

To uo in bubble

[sleek pollen]

no

don't ever up that bubble from early to mid/late game proly

[atomic fable]

Mastery is minimum damage

[sleek stone]

Ahh

Okay

[atomic fable]

You want to prioritise maximum damage as that also increases minimum

[sleek stone]

Yeah my total dmg are quite high

[sleek pollen]

mastery is meh, also its not worth putting one point in it because when you have NBLB it can hit not so useful bubbles like that mastery one while it could hit some other better ones

[atomic fable]

Should I get my es to focus on this bubble?

[sleek pollen]

can put exp pot but most of time its one heal food to have 100% then full speed pot as it should increase your kph

[sleek pollen]

its appreciated to farm it to a certain level or until its too expensive for you

[atomic fable]

Alright, so I should move es to there to start leveling it up a bit?

Since I have it on sand pots rn

[pine fiber]

Cupcake, have you got the bubble called orange bargain?

it's the third after call me bob

[atomic fable]

Yes

I've been letting nblb level it up a bit

[pine fiber]

okay, dont level orange bubbles on Es

do it on any of your warriors

[atomic fable]

Oh, why?

[pine fiber]

orange bargain is affected by warriors rule

[atomic fable]

Oh

so I should maybe use my dk for it?

[pine fiber]

same goes for green and purple cauldrons

take a look at how much mats you need to level it on ES, then check DK

[atomic fable]

Was able to use 2 bargin tags to level up warriors rule twice

instead of once

[sleek pollen]

basically once you get those type of bubble on green orange and purple you only upgrade green bubbles on archer, purple on mage and orange on warrior

[sleek pollen]

ah he said it me lazy read

[hidden violet]

You should use bargain tags on hard to get mats like bubbles that require dust/rare materials

[pine fiber]

you explained it better tho

[atomic fable]

The only reason I used it on warriors rule is because it costed all my green spores if I didn't

[pine fiber]

you'll eventually print enough gmush caps on bm + vman

I'd not worry about it

[atomic fable]

Alright, I'll keep that in mind

[hidden violet]

Yeah but your ES can farm spores easily+printer gains as well

[pine fiber]

or that, yeah

[atomic fable]

yeah, I guess I didn't think about that, mb

[hidden violet]

Carpenter is a solid bubble for tags if you have that one

[knotty solstice]

While my characters are taking a break from lab, is there anything that I should prioritize while having them all skill at once?

[atomic fable]

Carpenter?

[pine fiber]

yeah, the one with yellow dust

[knotty solstice]

Still need access to w3 bugs by the way.

[pine fiber]

it's right above call me bob

[atomic fable]

Oh, found it

I'll switch to dk and level it

yeah, it's lower on dk, thanks for the tip

[pine fiber]

[atomic fable]

I can't do any more bargin tags

[pine fiber]

yeah it gets expensive after a while, especially if you cant CC yet

[atomic fable]

I did it 3 times per bubble I upgraded with it

[pine fiber]

dont stress it too much, you'll get there eventually

[atomic fable]

which is over 50%

Alright

[pine fiber]

my bm's gmush cap sample looks so tiny compared to vman's

[atomic fable]

Okay, I think I know the plan I can do - ES to farm the red bubble materials

[pine fiber]

me vs the dude she tells me not to worry about

[atomic fable]

and DK to upgrade them

[iron jay]

is 3d printer has personal timer or print every xx:00?

[pine fiber]

you can check IT when your printer does a full cycle

[astral lava]

Print every xx:00 I would say

[iron jay]

I can't find, sry

[iron jay]

thx

[astral lava]

Ima look

[pine fiber]

its on the dashboard

[astral lava]

Then it have its own

[iron jay]

oh, dashboard

[pine fiber]

yeah dashboard, under w3

[iron jay]

thx

[astral lava]

I think it scales with the daily reset

[sleek stone]

Damn if i focus on dk should upgrade all dk bubble?

[pine fiber]

mine doesnt but who knows

wdym by all dk bubble

[iron jay]

there is no "dk" bubble

[sleek stone]

Like all warrior bubble

[astral lava]

U mean in construction?

[pine fiber]

I guess they meant orange bubbles

[sleek stone]

Mb warrior bubble

[iron jay]

all colors is useful for DK

[stuck rain]

can grandmas disguise replace golden helmet for some classes?

[pine fiber]

potato potato, if you have orange bargain, you'll want to upgrade orange bubbles on warrior classes, yes

[sleek stone]

Damn not yet

[pine fiber]

you dont want to use the golden set imo, only for slab, craft it once and forget about it

[sleek stone]

Only on mage

[pine fiber]

or on DK if you still need accuracy, hopefully you can manage some other way tho

[stuck rain]

what about warriors for accuracy?

yeah

[sleek stone]

Yeah maybe but i think ive had enough acc

To push w4

25K

[pine fiber]

you could always use the buff on DK if you cant reach 1.5x accuracy

[sleek stone]

Alrighty

[pine fiber]

oh well, my vman starts to look decent for now

probably managed to get 17 more portals during this speedrun

[knotty solstice]

Should all my alch cauldrons be at this level for mid w4, or should it be way higher than this?

[atomic fable]

Should I level this up as high as I can?

[pine fiber]

if you've got the money for it, sure

dont go bankrupt over it tho

[atomic fable]

Alright, it'd help speed up alchemy liquid regens

Alright, I might use any coins my es gets during monster drop farming to upgrade it

[west ingot]

getting there

[atomic fable]

since I want to use my coins for other things like golden statues

[pine fiber]

you are basically set for w4 with this much accuracy

[atomic fable]

So I need 25k+ accuracy for w4?

[astral lava]

16.5k

[pine fiber]

~25k yes, stilted seekers need 16.5k for 100%

[west ingot]

yeah i dont even know where it all came from i dont have the balance of pain or whatever its called

[atomic fable]

Okay, so 16.5k+ is when I can safely push w4?

[astral lava]

Ye

Last mob needs 16.5k anyway

It's even less than 16.5k

Cuz u dont really need to grind kills from stilted seeker

[pine fiber]

nah its 16.5k, if you can hit 25k, you are good

[astral lava]

It's just 1 key for the boss

[sleek stone]

Only dmg hold you off

[pine fiber]

and 27k to start in w5 so yeah

[astral lava]

18k?

[pine fiber]

on DK? 27k

[astral lava]

Ohh

Smort

[pine fiber]

already did the x1.5 math

[sleek stone]

Dk always need that high acc

[west ingot]

well just doubled my dementia print lol

[atomic fable]

I know I probably shouldn't afk on dk while pushing

[pine fiber]

active afk is fine

[sleek stone]

Nice progressing

[atomic fable]

but it doesn't hurt to grind alchemy a bit

Once I reach 25k accuracy, I should active afk

[pine fiber]

sweet sweet kill/hr, gotta love intervention

[stiff vigil]

dumb question but does this do exactly what is says, so for the next 40 days my samples just get bigger then after the 40 days it drops off the bonus or keeps it?

[iron jay]

keep

[pine fiber]

it keeps the bonus if you dont take any new samples

[atomic fable]

You keep it until you reprint

[west ingot]

is 902 void a decent sample for my first sample of it?

i dont know the ore to bar rates

[pine fiber]

void is 100:1

[stiff vigil]

thats way higher than mine lol and i have 1m skill efficiency

[west ingot]

wut

[pine fiber]

are you using royal sampler?

[stiff vigil]

wait nvm i forgot to update it

[atomic fable]

I got my 1st cog that boosts whole row, but it's for flaggy rate

[stiff vigil]

its 1,5k

but 900 is pretty good to get you started

[sleek stone]

Go get the action frenzy

In dungeon

[atomic fable]

Is it worth keeping that cog despite it being for flaggy rate?

[astral lava]

Nah

[west ingot]

uhh talent?

[astral lava]

Early on, get either build rate or exp

[atomic fable]

Okay, so I want to keep the build rate boost ones

[astral lava]

Exp will take the lead later on

But keep exp ones

[atomic fable]

So if it boosts whole row for build rate, I should keep that cog till mid-late game

[atomic fable]

How do you get that book?

[pine fiber]

dungeon 🤮

[astral lava]

U will even trash all of them before late game

[pine fiber]

flurbo shop

[west ingot]

uhm what..?

[astral lava]

Yup

[sleek stone]

Flubro

Dungeon shop

[atomic fable]

Okay, so I need to work on dungeons again

[pine fiber]

yeah, you wanna max out 5 stats from flurbo anyway for equinox cloud

still, 🤮

[sleek stone]

[west ingot]

15k copper sample i doubled all my miing samples

[atomic fable]

When's next happy hour?

[astral lava]

It leads back to tunnels entrance (copper ore place)

[sleek stone]

Check on wiki

[pine fiber]

no way its in 28hrs

[sleek stone]

Damn

[atomic fable]

Oh rip

[pine fiber]

💀 jesus christ

[atomic fable]

what dungeon would be best to grind for the books?

[exotic swallow]

normal

[west ingot]

is it next one?

[atomic fable]

normal as in?

[pine fiber]

w1 probably

[exotic swallow]

world 1 obviously

[atomic fable]

Alright, what class should I use?

[exotic swallow]

no one does other dungeons outside of equinox quest/achievement

[exotic swallow]

divine knight

[atomic fable]

Alright

[sleek stone]

Yes

[astral lava]

DK, ES, I personally used ||Vman||

[pine fiber]

jabbing

[sleek stone]

Im dungeon hunter

[astral lava]

Tbh, I don't have opinions on this BUT I think it's easier on that class

E

[pine fiber]

yeah well, you hit 4 times with a single hit

[astral lava]

Fast boi

[zenith hare]

you'd be wrong :3

db is best :3

[sleek stone]

Yeah db

[astral lava]

Ik :3

[zenith hare]

also dk is op af, due to shock wave on basic attack

[pine fiber]

[sleek stone]

The explostion

[stiff vigil]

is chizoar gear on anvil tab 4?

[zenith hare]

tab 3

[pine fiber]

3

[sleek stone]

Recipe on merit

[astral lava]

Hey beanie

[pine fiber]

yeah merit shop shows which tab it'll be on

[stiff vigil]

oh nvm lol im blind

[sleek stone]

Lol

[pine fiber]

Bean, I crafted chiz gear for all my characters

[astral lava]

What are the chances of me getting ||Sov Trilobite Rock artifact|| today?

[west ingot]

i forgot to change my talent page before going into the dungeon... fuck

[zenith hare]

0

[astral lava]

I thought so...

[sleek stone]

Wait happy hour tho

[pine fiber]

I'm sorry but what

[zenith hare]

small

[pine fiber]

I know it is but wtf

[zenith hare]

mines at e31 bonus :3

it gets large and fast

[pine fiber]

I knew I was missing something, Bean's bragging

[astral lava]

The bonus added is multiplicative to itself

[zenith hare]

in my defence, I am completely and utterly exhausted

I have no filter on rn

[pine fiber]

long day?

[zenith hare]

yes and no

social interaction

[pine fiber]

ewh, the worst

[zenith hare]

and just got off from vr, did mostly beat saber

[pine fiber]

ah yeah, vr is exhausting

[zenith hare]

so both physically and mentally exhausted

[astral lava]

https://tenor.com/view/osfirsttimer-beat-saber-crazy-vroom-vroom-virtual-reality-gif-25350922

[zenith hare]

not quite

[sleek stone]

[zenith hare]

same console though!

unlike some idiots, I actually carry through with my swings

I don't barely tap the notes

[toxic quartz]

Im currently at the penguins map with barely enough def to not suffer much damage. I still havent unlocked fmj and my accuracy will soon not be enough. Should I sit back and catch up with that?

im with my barb if that helps

[zenith hare]

you should equip healing food and not care about defence ever again

[toxic quartz]

so maybe I move him to catch the thingies to improve shaccuracy

[sleek stone]

Also hemogoblin talent up it

[zenith hare]

shaq is the last acc buff you should aim for btw

[toxic quartz]

cool thanks I'll do some w1 tasks then

[atomic fable]

I can solo up to 2nd frog, is that good?

[zenith hare]

obols, gear, tools, cards, card sets, w1/2 clickers, dungeons, prayers, star signs, talents, stamps, PO boxes for acc

[sleek stone]

What frog

[atomic fable]

in world 1 dungeon

[pine fiber]

w1 party dungeon boss

[zenith hare]

no

[toxic quartz]

okay Ill do that

[zenith hare]

:3

[toxic quartz]

thanks

[sleek stone]

Oh you jeed to wait for happy hour tho

It would not give as much flurbo rn

[zenith hare]

don't need

[pine fiber]

if vman caps out xp reduction for skills, I can reset that by leveling said skill? or whats the catch

[zenith hare]

correct

[pine fiber]

cool, thanks

[zenith hare]

If ur talking ab crystal countdown

[pine fiber]

yes

whats the highest you can go on crystal countdown?

[storm egret]

what should i do with shrines? use them to push or keep them in one place to afk there and level them? not sure whats better, i only have 4 right now

[zenith hare]

80% or smth

[pine fiber]

ah aight, thats nice

[zenith hare]

just push with ur main pusher tbh

[astral lava]

?wiki Vman

[cursive walrus]

https://idleon.wiki/wiki/Vman

[zenith hare]

it'll start leveling when you get world wide shrines in w4

as you can then leave em in w4 town or smth

[sleek stone]

Where drippy stamp for liquid drop?

[west ingot]

dungeonic damage new book jumped me up 60k damage

[white path]

depends on ur talent level

[sleek stone]

Yeah worh to upgrade

[west ingot]

trying to get the 80 max level for next book

[pine fiber]

damn, that really slows down

mine caps out at 75% now

[atomic fable]

It might take a while to get the dungeon credit book high enough leveled

[sleek stone]

Focus on stats also

[west ingot]

dungeon stats or flurbo stats

[sleek stone]

Yeah dungeon are meant to do when you got bonuses

[sleek stone]

Flurbo

[atomic fable]

What do I upgrade for dungeon stats?

[sleek stone]

It increase your stat outside dungeon

[sleek stone]

Up to what you need

[exotic swallow]

😈 max everything

[sleek stone]

Yeah everything if you can

Focus on needed one first

[atomic fable]

Could that be something like damage?

[stiff vigil]

should i upgrade bubble breakthrough on my bubo while im active farming, or does the xp not really increase that much to make it worth spending the points on for that skill tab

i have it upgraded on my afk preset but not my active one

[pine fiber]

I didnt have an active preset till 200 tent

but I dont think its worth it before you start doing CC

[sleek stone]

Weapon power yeah

If you need it

[atomic fable]

It's at +4.5 from flurbo shop

[exotic swallow]

because its bb

(LMAO)

go get db

dam

[west ingot]

do i just lose the dungeon if theres nothing else i can kill?

[mystic hedge]

What lvls should my towers be before I do world 3 soul tower defense? I can’t even get thru stage 1 😭

Working on boulder… currently level 24

[atomic fable]

I might just wait for the next happy hour

if that's the better plan?

[sleek stone]

Yes

[stiff vigil]

easily, i joined a random team the other day and on the first run got to i think the 3rd or 4th frog

got so many credits it was insane

[sleek stone]

Its not worth doing it without happy hour

[astral lava]

Glitches then

[eager sphinx]

Since I am close to getting w4 should I get some more levels on wizard since I will be pushing him with barb and squire for class promotion?

I have him cutting wood (Its a level 70 wizard)

[indigo stratus]

!gems

hmm, what' the latest gem tierlist

[stiff vigil]

should i be focusing on unlocking new recipes or upgrading the ones i already have? u have 5 kitchen sets unlocked rn

[cyan pulsar]

Do Dig doug and Xylobone count for my Voidwalker Death note kills? I've got 1m on all of the requested things but I didn't get credit.

[indigo stratus]

they aren't on the death note

[cyan pulsar]

Yeah I'm stumped then.

It says I'm missing 7.

[white path]

go to ur death note and go through the 3 worlds

[cyan pulsar]

I had to go to the Death Note on the character and stare at it. It looks like it didn't update until I looked at it on that character. Odd

[white lintel]

What are you working on?

[cyan pulsar]

Voidwalker. I got the 1m on all of my other characters and thought it would update the Deathnote without me looking at it.

[white lintel]

Ah yea

[hoary pebble]

I hit 1050M copper ore in my storage and I haven't got the atom collider built yet. What can I expect to happen if I continue printing copper ore? Does it just go to waste?

[cyan pulsar]

It should keep piling up until you hit the limit set by the game.

[worn raptor]

It doesn't matter if you have it built or not, after 1050m they are consumed the same

[white lintel]

You get atoms but can’t use em iirc

[hoary pebble]

Oh so I should continue printing ore then. The number wasn't budging in my storage so I had no idea if anything was happening

[white lintel]

If you have that much copper you should have atom collider

[hoary pebble]

I neglected construction for quite a while but I'm about an hour away from finally unlocking it.

[worn raptor]

yeah, is good idea, for get early atom collider upgrades

[hoary pebble]

Thank you guys 🫡

[white lintel]

Yea, be careful when turning it on so you don’t eat all your stuff if you don’t want it all to disappear

[hoary pebble]

Lol I'll keep that in mind. I need my copper ore to stay above 1000M cus I wanna resample again tomorrow.

[indigo stratus]

What's the w4 merit shop priority? Is there a reference for it

[shadow lark]

!merit4

[candid scarab]

1️⃣ Buy one point of spice spillage. This gives you up to a 20% chance to claim all your spices when claiming over an hour of afk gains. Since spices generate more slowly the more you have produced since last claim this will improve spice production.
2️⃣ Having more bubbles get upgraded each day will help a lot, especially when combined with buffs giving more levels per bubble. Only buy this if you can reach the No Bubble Left Behind node in the lab.
3️⃣ Egg capacity is limited and every time the hatchery fills up eggs are wasted until you unlock the rarity upgrade. Also helps you get two achievements with good rewards requiring egg capacity.
4️⃣ Allows you to connect to lab bonuses from slightly farther away which can reduce the number of characters needed in the lab. Note that the max distance between characters, which is called line width, doesn't increase.
5️⃣ Improves kills per hour in W4 but since you likely won't be pushing W4 portals for long this is relatively low priority.
6️⃣ Max level spice spillage triggers every time. They are lower priority since it takes a lot of star talent points and is likely to trigger several times in a row when checking multiple characters.
7️⃣ 3 crystal mobs per day is very little.
Unlocks the recipes for troll armor giving all stat% and the base for all further armor upgrades. It is great but require plenty of Nullo Salt. Don't buy it if you can't craft them.

[indigo stratus]

thanks

[rotund slate]

hey is there any point in putting foraging pets on the last 3 pet battle areas?

it doesnt seem like those spices upgrade anything

[hidden violet]

All the spices are used for something eventually

Recipe unlocks etc

[rotund slate]

yeah but other than unlocking the recipes?

[hidden violet]

When you’ve got more kitchens the level up spices for the later kitchens change

[pine fiber]

damn, this vman cooking passive basically skyrocketed my kitchen

shelf 1 full lvl 40

[eager sphinx]

Great catch yes or no?

[low valley]

Returning player looking for some help getting back into the game? currently early world 4

[astral lava]

@turbid stag

[spice nest]

Hi; do you know why in Idleon Toolbox, there is an emote to warning me that my shiny pet surpassed the shiny lvl treshold, i really dont understand that

[lyric basalt]

Is this decent for my afk BB?

[loud seal]

the default alert is lvl 5 because pushing to level 6 takes long, hitting diminishing returns at that point. it does not mean going beyond lvl 5 is impossible or useless. change it to whatever value you want

[sleek stone]

Yeah with that set and gear

[atomic fable]

I earlier got automation arm level 3

which means I can seem to worship in world 3 town now

[eager sphinx]

Hey Cupcake should I great catch now?

[shadow lark]

no

[atomic fable]

It depends if it's reasonable to gain more points on next reset

[shadow lark]

you havent even unlocked the 6th fish

[atomic fable]

Oh, that too

try unlocking the 6th shiny fish

[shadow lark]

6th fish is a massive multiplier

[atomic fable]

My maestro just got worship level 50 🙂

[shadow lark]

my es barely has 50 LMAO im so behind

[eager sphinx]

K

[eager sphinx]

Alrighty

[atomic fable]

when I did the quick all option on the automation totem thingy, It deposited all the souls to storage chest

[shadow lark]

just keep spamming shiny fish at 100%

[eager sphinx]

Not when its like 30k or something?

Or at least 1k to be exact

[atomic fable]

The odds are the same at 30k% and 100% I'm pretty sure, the difference is the amount

[shadow lark]

not until you have the 6th fish

[eager sphinx]

I did 1ks

[atomic fable]

Nice!

[shadow lark]

great now keep at it

[eager sphinx]

Yeah I was making a ton of % so I just waited 5 seconds for it to reach 1k

That is... quite the jump-

[shadow lark]

yup

[eager sphinx]

for 78k to 2m

[shadow lark]

thats what x22 does to a man

[astral lava]

I wish that it would work like that

[eager sphinx]

lol it was more for amount so if I did get blue fish it wasnt just like 5

[lyric basalt]

Is there like a specific DMG range for w5?

[astral lava]

30m for ES, 35m for DK

[lyric basalt]

I meant beginning w5

[astral lava]

Go check first mob's health

I'm afk rn

[sleek pollen]

1mil minimum I'd say is a good start

[bronze moth]

i'm at 700k max dmg at clammies map, I want to get 1m dmg how can I do that

[sleek pollen]

Alch, gear, stamps, cards, starsigns, po box, equinox, meals, sailing artifacts, divinities, W1 owl, W2 kangaroo, orange pots, dungeon flurbos, Hole, and levels/talents are all sources of damage

[shadow lark]

damn so quick

[astral lava]

https://tenor.com/view/just-do-it-shia-la-beouf-do-it-flame-fire-gif-5621394

[shadow lark]

i wasnt even at 3

[astral lava]

That was copied

[shadow lark]

i know but he had it ready so fast

[bronze moth]

yeah because 2.1k kph is a bit too low on clammies

[atomic fable]

Is 39 order streak a bit too high early game?

[sleek pollen]

100 is the highest you'll want to go then reset

[astral lava]

Cuz at 100 streak, u get +9 more

[sleek pollen]

as 1-100 and 101-200 gives same amount of box but gets more expensive for some

[atomic fable]

Okay, but past 100, let it reset?

[astral lava]

Btw, requirements stop scaling after reaching streak 100

[lyric basalt]

I need y'alls opinions, I want to main ES and it has like 2.1 mil max DMG but I'm not active on it so should I stick with a BB with only 600k DMG but good afk

[sleek pollen]

tbh as long as you have ES any amount is alright

[sleek pollen]

oh me dumdum

[atomic fable]

I have +61 points on next reset, do I go for the mega fish now? (I only have 129Q)

[shadow lark]

nah your fish are super low

[sleek pollen]

once you get that +9 and 100 done, it should have a shield so you wanna remove that shield by using a pen then after 2 reset streak will go back to 0

[atomic fable]

Alright

[cold wraith]

does nobi increase amt of dragon statues you get

[astral lava]

Nah, it will need 2 days

[shadow lark]

i reset like an hour ago

[sleek pollen]

shouldn't as it doesn't increase the number of drop a gmush will give (beside the small link dmg bonus)

[atomic fable]

Oh, Nice

[astral lava]

If u remove the shield, it will need 2 daily resets

[shadow lark]

so spam those fish

[sleek pollen]

ah fk right

[shadow lark]

and potentially get your bonus catching to breakpoints if you havent yet

[atomic fable]

It'll take over a hour to get my next fisheroo investing

at 14Q per minute

[shadow lark]

yeah because you dont have enough fish

[zenith hare]

murder

[bronze moth]

what is the optimal kph I should have at the maps at and after clammies?

[zenith hare]

2k ish

[bronze moth]

yeah I have like 2.1k on clammies does that count as 2k ish

[astral lava]

And at yolk?

[zenith hare]

its above 2k

[sleek pollen]

1k

[zenith hare]

¯_(ツ)_/¯

[astral lava]

Hehehe

[atomic fable]

I find it hard to get blue fish right now

[zenith hare]

too recent to tell, plus its an easy map to pass

[zenith hare]

everyone does

[atomic fable]

I can do a mega fish btw (This is my position upgrades wise for investing)

[shadow lark]

youre way too early for mega fish

[astral lava]

I once accidentally clicked on fishroo reset

[atomic fable]

How am I too early?

[astral lava]

And I didn't even have any points

[zenith hare]

i did it 4 times

[shadow lark]

you have nearly no multiplier, so youre far away from where it actually gets slow for your mf level

[zenith hare]

no.

tbh even mega resetting asap is still fine, its just slightly less optimal

[atomic fable]

It'll take nearly 2 hours for me to reach the next investing upgrade

[zenith hare]

it only matters if you plan to hypermax it

[shadow lark]

hes got 8q/min at mf7

[atomic fable]

at 16Q/min

[shadow lark]

or 16

[zenith hare]

and?

that early on, it doesnt matter much

[shadow lark]

and he could easily 100x that for free pretty much

[zenith hare]

only thing that matters is where you invest points into

[eager sphinx]

This is why I save up to 24k lol

[zenith hare]

no, that highly depends on how they spent the last 6 mf's

unless you didnt hypermax, you cant say anything

[atomic fable]

This is my current bonuses

[eager sphinx]

How am I looking swolorno?

[zenith hare]

if you rushed roo in any way, youd know actual rates

[shadow lark]

i wouldnt say i hypermaxed

[zenith hare]

quite ready to push into mf20s id say

[zenith hare]

ur points says otherwise

[atomic fable]

I could either wait it out for 1 or 2 points, do the mega fish anyway or do a normal reset for the points

[zenith hare]

you did the optimal route from what i can see, even if slightly worse then what the guide says

[eager sphinx]

My bonuses btw

[zenith hare]

never normal reset till mf 11

[shadow lark]

thats fair

[atomic fable]

Alright, you think I might've hit the point I have to mega fish?

based on my rates per minute

[zenith hare]

id say so tbh, unless you plan to push roo to its breaking points

[zenith hare]

quite unbalanced

[shadow lark]

just focus more on getting shiny fishes next reset

[bronze moth]

these are mine

[atomic fable]

is my upgrades unbalanced btw?

[eager sphinx]

Yeah idk what I am doing just doing red

[shadow lark]

its a bit much black but not too bad

[zenith hare]

that should be the ratio

[zenith hare]

also very bad

yellow soft caps at 100

[bronze moth]

oof it does

[atomic fable]

So on my next reset, do I soft cap yellow, then put more on blue and green?

[zenith hare]

imo yeah tbh

just aim roughly for that split

[eager sphinx]

I will great catch tomorrow and bask in my 4m boost from shiny fish for the first time

[shadow lark]

probably even red first

[bronze moth]

so I'll just keep yellow where it's at and get red much higher

[zenith hare]

yellow first to make 6th tier fish easier

[atomic fable]

I have 50 red, so I should prioritise blue and green until 200?

[shadow lark]

7 yellow rest red :p

[rapid temple]

How do you get ribbons?

[atomic fable]

or am I reading that split wrong

[bronze moth]

😭 I was tryna keep it equal looks like that wasn't the optimal thing

[rapid temple]

I am on world 4 but cant seem to figure out how to get more ribbons

[shadow lark]

Deathbringer

[bronze moth]

oof now I need to get red upgrade up to like lvl 1000 😭

[atomic fable]

Does the ratio mean I need red 4x higher than blue / green or other way round?

[shadow lark]

red higher

[zenith hare]

you can only get them naturally via DB

which is in w6

[eager sphinx]

Yknow... I feel like I had this 4m long enough I am bored. Like yes I would like optimal wait the night so I can invest more but do I wanna do that or great catch

[rapid temple]

just unlocking the class and I'll earn ribbons?

[atomic fable]

If other way round, I need to get red to 128 and green to 32

for the 1 / 1 / 4

[zenith hare]

not quite, you need to do some of its class specific stuff

[shadow lark]

not quite but pretty much

[rapid temple]

tyty

[zenith hare]

but yeah its fairly early on

[atomic fable]

If I'm reading the split right, based on my upgrades, I need to level red more? (Right now, it's 32 / 30 / 50)

[eager sphinx]

Also I did a accidental reset this morning so now I wasted a reset T-T

[shadow lark]

im not super high on points but the ratio is close

theres also a sheet if you wanna be a nerd

[bronze moth]

my ratio is like 1:1:1:1.9:1:1 which is insanely bad

[sleek pollen]

BB's masterclass, the bundle that was released with DB that gave +5 ribbon per days

[atomic fable]

Ooh, I get what you mean now, I need red way higher than 50 from where my blue and green are

[shadow lark]

ye

#newplayer-chat-w1🍀w2⏳ message

[indigo stratus]

what are the best talents for BB? Just got one

[shadow lark]

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/e/2PACX-1vST3HcgBgeq8H9jztaMhUXZAAAHl120PvDVo_48qJpn6n9qnpa-TWmuG_kN9cmtr66M-OtO482XIOAk/pubhtml#

[verbal crow]

I lost the link to this sheet ahwile ago, can you post?

[shadow lark]

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1QPflGlAO-RxONDQ8qtT0ZltisS3uxDw67_W2xuikBjI/edit?gid=275651607#gid=275651607

[eager sphinx]

Never trust me with ratios to keep them even-

[bronze moth]

i'm almost at fractal owl feather

[verbal crow]

Thank you 🙂

[shadow lark]

manual input link is on the first page if you need that

[lilac ingot]

where do i get shrapnell? (first quest for traps)

[bronze moth]

NEVER EVER TRUST ME WITHIN 100 MILES OF A RATIO

[eager sphinx]

Naaaaahhhh youll be fiiiineee-

[shadow lark]

last mob w2

the snails

[eager sphinx]

Your just over lucky on the shiny fish not that baddd-

[bronze moth]

eh ig it's kinda fine

[eager sphinx]

Not so optimal buuut atleast your lucky

[lyric basalt]

I need y'alls opinions, I want to main ES and it has like 2.1 mil max DMG but I'm not active on it so should I stick with a BB with only 600k DMG but good afk or use ES

[shadow lark]

i switched to es in w4

is fun

[eager sphinx]

Yeah I was gonna say I hear a lot about ES and not a lot of BB

So I would assume stick with the ES

[shadow lark]

bb will look great in your lab

[eager sphinx]

Ah I love a good experimental trophy

[bronze moth]

i'm pushing with dk with ok afk

[lyric basalt]

What about afk cuz BB gets 3k kph for demon genies while ES like 1.3k

[eager sphinx]

Better active if I recall people saying

[bronze moth]

dilapidated slushes are easy

[eager sphinx]

!breeding

?

[lyric basalt]

I thought BB was rlly good for afk cuz he gets 3.5k kph for demon genies while ES is like 1.3k plus I can't be active on E

ES*

[sleek pollen]

BB is in fact the better class in afk because of monster decimator

[eager sphinx]

But active its ES? I assume?

[sleek pollen]

I just realized that now all class has a sort of respawn mechanic to make active farm faster/easier

[lyric basalt]

I'm not rlly that active though

But BB DMG is way lower than ES

[sleek pollen]

yeah if you can active ES or DK (who'll have an easier time)

[bronze moth]

yeah I can't active dk 😭

[eager sphinx]

Was more of a me question since I also need info for when I enter w4

[lyric basalt]

?

[sleek pollen]

yeah as usual ES is a glass gannon early on, he has highest dmg while SB will take over later

[lyric basalt]

So should I just stick with BB afk, only issue is he's a kitchen slace

Slave*

[eager sphinx]

Shaman and Bowman to lab
Hunter in lab jail
Barb, Squire, Wizard push to class promotion thats what I have planned

[sleek pollen]

your BB don't afk in kitchen for a long while because he sucks and you get practically nothing while afk at lab or pushing is better

never saw that in my life
@astral lava does it ring a bell?

[lyric basalt]

Ok so overall it's OK to push with him only if AFK

[indigo stratus]

at what point does zow farming become feasible

[sleek pollen]

zow easily done in minutes once you're w5+

[bronze moth]

I"M SO CLOSEEEE

[atomic fable]

My es is really close to 1m damage now

[indigo stratus]

alchemy is the biggest grind for maestro

[sleek pollen]

sure hope you have the other skill at the level required (alch, catching and fishing)

[bronze moth]

my dk is super close to 1m it needs 300k more dmg

[indigo stratus]

you can use time candies on everything except alchemy

[atomic fable]

I actually was able to finish alchemy during the maestro quest (I was able to pre-finish it beforehand)

[bronze moth]

jman is gonna be fine

[sleek pollen]

balloon

[sleek pollen]

nothing

[indigo stratus]

I mean for the maestro quest

I guess there's no easy way to get alchemy up fast other than rushing a bubo?

[pine fiber]

cranium cooking is probably your best bet

[bronze moth]

fishings probably gonna be the most difficult

[shadow lark]

i think liquid gives more xp over brewing

[indigo stratus]

cranium cooking has 80k sec cooldown until you hit bubo tho

[atomic fable]

Fishing or catching was the hardest thing to do in the maestro questline imo

[pine fiber]

cookin roadkill bubble

[sleek pollen]

liquid cauldron too

slug enjoyer

[pine fiber]

surprising

[bronze moth]

what's the best tree for early chopping xp gain

[pine fiber]

that took 10 seconds

[sleek pollen]

just go the last few trees you have access to and check afk info

as for early player it can vary depending on skill eff (if at 100% or less)

[ancient arch]

gm all, unlocked w3 last night. am I expected to have shaq by now, or should I rush it?

[lyric basalt]

BB is op 🤑

[pine fiber]

is it?

[bronze moth]

just got the mining level requirement I need to get on chopping now

[sleek pollen]

afk push

[lyric basalt]

Exp wise yep

And afk

[sleek pollen]

also you got all your elites class right?

[bronze moth]

dawg that afk gains rate is insane

[lyric basalt]

I'm getting BM tomorrow but everything else ye

[bronze moth]

how do u get ur afk gains that high

[lyric basalt]

This is only with like 800k max DMG also 🤑

The afk talent