#midgame-chat-w3๐งw4๐ฎ
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its right where it should be
How long am I supposed to put my characters in lab?
overcharged health can be good though but I honestly wouldnt spec into it over Tick Tock (the hourglass afk gains star talent)
Alright, is the luck stat worth getting?
no on everyone except maestro
how else can I increase his dmg
It is the worst stat you can get on everyone else, infact
okay, so that's a few points I kinda messed up?
or is it just a case I don't have much else to use it on
nvm i found what i can do
yes
those talent points might be better spent on Hemoglobin (go purchase the maxed out version from merit shop asap)
Counting the quests that give the luck stat and the printer
I've only messed up on 32 points total?
but again I'd say that it's not worth reseting talent points over. Don't stress about it. Youll get more star talent points
ice hammer might boost kph because of extra dmg but that requires me waiting
If your attack skills reach the respawn cap, you'll not see a kph increase
since afk gains does take those into consideration (if on the attacks bar)
how do i know what the respawn cap is
If you increase your damage, but nothing changes, that's respawn cap
resampling again takes so much time eh
ohh then I am nowhere near respawn cap
From that point forward, only mk or faster respawns will increase kph
at least in world 4 (I could be wrong)
i'll just keep pushing till I can get ice hammer or find another source of dmg
oh wait
just upgraded my tools got me to 700k
Got the hemoglobin max to level 35
yeah rn getting 500-600% bonus xp on smithing on lugi brackets are helping me a ton
ty for the help ramrod
at least i'm nearing 1m dmg max
how are your star signs
these are my current one so far
youve got some big gains to make in this department
yeah
speed run on double stars
action frenzy work on critters?
Is this normal? I unequipped all it's healing food and it's now 100% survivability
yes its normal
for trapping? no
yea
yeah what star talent for it?
Upgrading that star talent must have allowed 100% Survivability
that help with critters
right?
yes
hemogoblin are very usefull
its what allows 100% survivability almost the whole game
Since it's now 100%, I can now actually use boost foods like potions
one thing for survivability when you plan to afk as a DK: activate your shield wall ability, and then go afk. It'll contribute to your surviability
also card drop chance work on it?
the critters
wait, it's 43%
yeah im probably gonna grind constellations tomm
huh? why did it fail to update
im going to up my card drop talent if it is
Okay, nevermind, I guess I wasn't at 100% without healing foods, afk menu failed to update
Only when collecting the traps.
1 healing food did get me to 100% however
so I was able to use 1 speed, health and damage potions alongside it
Remember: When placing traps, run efficiency and trapping xp cards. When collecting, run shiny critter chance (and if you want, card drop chance cards)
I kinda wonder if it's worth maximising HP on the DK
Alright then thats good to know
to minimise the need of healing foods
Gonna up it
Alright thank so much
Nah you need dmg also deff
Mine only 7k and didnt even flinch
Oh
you can be more since your refinery are high
I think I only have like 400k?
I know I'm going to need around 1-2m max damage to fully push through w4
so I might actually go for void armour for my pusher
It probably will help reach higher def and possibly more damage
How far along are you into pushing w4?
Only map 4 on all characters except maestro, barbarian and bowman
as for my owl, I got to mega feather 8
which brings me to 2 away from fractal feathers
what factors effect pet power?
Should I use shiny snitch while getting shiny critters
yes
cooking and breeding lvl
cooking level?
I probably should try to get my dk ice weapon, right?
and is that on just the one breeding
no the food
ah
in an hour of sitting at sheepies with giant prayer and crystal chance cards ive gotten 4 2 hour candies and 1 1 hour i feel rich again lol
thats great
What's the best way to get to 150 on maestro? I'm getting like 5-6 mil xp/hrs and I'm doing w3 now. Need another 8 levels or so
lets say if you get all your shinys on average you'd get 5-6
That would gone in 2 minute
if shiny snitch was to activate then you'd get 20+ depending on lvl
I'm not going to use my time candies yet
so that 5 turns too 20 and if your using silk skin traps then its a pretty high chance shiny snitch will activate
for pushing reasons in w4
basically what im saying is yes its worth it for all accounts
youll gain so many more shinys with it then without it
no matter what lvl it is
I'd maybe say except the maestro since the maestro wants to be highest level
in terms of trapping
mman too
Oh, I've been using nature traps on my mman
True, I might be able to safely contribute to shiny with maestro once it's level 50+ in trapping
huh
Oke thank you so what's the best trap for shiny
silk skin
Is a good compromise for lab to be active es until I stop for the session, then lab him for some lab exp?
almost there
So it'd start with 4, then go up to 5
use it for pushing 
anvil tab 1 at the very bottom
that'll work
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My dk did hit level 90 recently
since I left him on map 4 on world 4, is this a good sign for 8th character?
ok
what gem do i need to access world -1
yap

you need to not play the game for 2 months efficiently

how the hell the line widht on la are getting shorther the more change something
wth with Px
a little more letters in that sentence would help
i was trying to decipher this shit too ๐ญ
its getting shorter probably becuase of bubo
why tho
When should I start killing rams
i put bubo
Cuz the portal is a pretty big grind
he has a skill that if hes on the left of everyone him and everyone to the right of him get increased line width
are you changin your talent page?
i use the exp line since start
rams have 1.25m hp so once you can kill soda cans in w4 youll be ok
nah
have you changed guys in the lab?
nah
now it fix when i try hard
soon when i change to phone it will go back like that
I dislike switching to phone for idleon
why?
why not just keep it on the computer? or go afk and not active it?
nah i gotta limit my use of pc tho
ok?
yeah its dilema
woohoo
Nice! that is printer sample %
just to make sure you both know make sure to run royal sampler on every character you need to get to 90% sample rate
idk if I can reach 90% in w4
thats fine just try to get it as high as possible
im no where near that lol, I need to level up royal sampler though
I've been grinding some melty cubes for a while to try to get ready for ice wepaons
the melee one is the only annoying one to grind for imo
And the maestro's
just look at maestro's void weapon

any tips for breaking past flooro 40ish in breeding arena? my pets have arounf 16k stats and i can't break past arena round 41, using recommended 4 pet setup bone/mono/revi/defender
Do I start replacing my characters that's on build rate to exp cogs except dk?
yeah im using the correct comp
ive neglected both so thats why there so low
theres other options i just cant think of them rn
What should i be using my 3d printer for?
also what can i do to improve accuracy ๐ญ
Roo?
squire = ores
barb = fishing
bowman = flies
all wizards = logs
hunter = refinery (spore caps and giga horns)
journeyman (if you have him yet) = anything extra you need rn
roo and owl are both mini clicker games that give you free states
roo
owl
OHHHHHH THOSE
As suggested earlier, I used all my points I earned into the shiny speed and chance
is this better?
its good i would personally put it all in red but that me i guess
It was only like level 20 or something earlier
red is the best just beacue it upgrades everything
True, The reason I did yellow is because it was like level 20 or something and I was recommended to upgrade it to make blue fish easier to find
I should do red on my next megafish now that it's more reeasonable
welp its 3 in the morning so gn and ill see you guys tomorrow
What should I upgrade ? On my 5th megafish now btw
thanks!
For my maestro, once I finish fishing, do I put it in the lab or nah
Well, whichever you like
The next 3 skills I need to do for it to be better than my characters are Mining, Chopping and Catching
Do what makes sense to you
What is this item and where do I find it?
That's Void ore
ore at next dementia portal
In the mines
so it's after the purple ore? haven't unlocked that area yet
but to mine it are hard
depends on your efficiency
yeah get some exp
oh damn i just remember now to do my vial lol
forgot about it since 2 days ago
you will need to always do them unless they are all maxed besides pickles obviously
Easy to miss things on idleon.
how do I get the star talent to place shrines?
hogindaz?
w3 main quest
Just check on wiki, how to get it.
by efficiency, chopping is highest on my maestro rn
I can gain 154k exp per hour on chopping
while it's only like 30k exp for mining
candy is the saviour for maestro/vman
That's just how it is 
well, so begins the tedious process of getting chopping to level 65
reach world 4 at least
I have w4
This is the best tree I can leave my maestro at
and unlocking gods.
Sailing, Divinity and Summoning start giving bonuses fast
So I should start gradually going through w4 while working on other things?
Ik the lab is a huge roadblock
??
Also, btw, I got the maestro void axe
he unlocked :fly
Just think about it. In w5, you can sit on the altar for a few hours and get sneb, free stats. In sailing you can get the 1st artifact within the first few hours too, about 40% extra damage with the amount of slab you will have when entering w5
too much of speed makin me fly
therefore pushing is better.
It might take quite a while to reach w5
as long as u are working on it its fine
What kind of gear are you running
Wait, how did I get this to 130/129?
There's many sources of that
I see, I'm just confused how here
what should i focus on maestro?
Just know it exists ๐
Skilling
yeah the talent
right hand if u want bigger samples
workin on my 8th char rn
Well, very situational to be fair
wait, right hand is situational?
No, it's not
Oh
Get left hand and right hand
I was recommended not to level left hand earlier
because my characters would kind of easily catch up
finally
Well, I guess stick with right hand for now, bigger samples always nice
Vman time
Hahaha. One day ๐
That could be today
Nobisect in w5 for 2x kills
You don't want to sit at bloodbones for weeks do you?
The number of people going for vman without nobisect and multikill is insane
I've kinda unintentionally got some progress to vman
5k kph on bloodbones, "we're getting there"
because I was grinding some mob drops earlier
If only I had the candies for the 150 push
Imma just take my time with vman haha
Nice lil side project
Is there an updated Tower Defence setup for the Citric Conflict, most of the guides i found cant be done, cuz of the tower on the left on the portal
Got vman in w6, the mobs give a lot of xp
My td isn't great, don't really know about cc guides
same
Okay, umm, with my dk, I have 157/155 on meat shank
What did I do that got me +1 level
I am reaching highest waves as possible, 1 worship per day of each type, since I havent done them in a while
Symbols of beyond?
Umm, es?
wdym es?
Check family tab
OH
That makes way more sense now
I leveled up enough on es to get to +1.03
Sorry, I'm just new to the elite classes
What level should my towers be at to beat round 121 at Frosty Firefight
sus
Morning-
Did the active farm with squire for candies (only cuz my squire is too far behind barb) and got only 2 2hr and 2 1hr candies-
Just defeated chizoar on my first player
which map is the elite class giver again
nahhh why are the first mobs so tanky
4th ,map
Im gonna need more damage boost sources
Oooo got him ๐
Is arctis the divine most people run oftenly without doot?
yes if they are not in the lab
you can have 3 gods linked as dootless, 4 on es
Is that unlocked immediately? Or is there prerequisites to unlocking the three slots?
you can link 1 god if u just get into w5 and unlock god
2 others are from the hole, cosmo, conjuror of bonuses
and es has a talent to link 1 more
the hole.

does printing give you exp?
Printing leads to higher cooking roadkill level, which leads to longer CC uptime, resulting in more exp balloons or grindtime bubble
ahh
Directly no.
Yup, w5 boss is a big wall
And ES have the best AoE talents
damn how much hp?
where can I find guide/suggestions for owl/kangaroo? I haven't played when they were introduced
Check pins in w5
Try to look in #1084911530417606656
Jumpscare warning : ||it heals||
W5 boss is acting like a guardian, just checking if you can withstand w6 or no
yeah no idlike to stay at w5
This morning I should have all I need to get deuscythe besides the critters hell yeah
Oof nvm I still need to do owls before penguins
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it's fine just do a few 20 minute traps and you'll get everything you need
Yeah I made the smart decision of doing 60 hour traps on frogs because I was getting tired of not having frogs and obviously that wasn't smart lol... but the traps are done tomorrow morning atleast๐
Gl with critters cap
wdym this wasn't smart though
?
it sounds perfectly fine to me
I mean I could've gotten more value off of hourly traps or even 8 hour
Critter cap, your storage
That's why I claim them in a town
Or have dram?
I remember when claim in town with low cap. Horrible
nah critter efficiency decreases
you're better off doing 20 minute traps if you're looking to get critters quickly no matter if it's regular or shiny
Less time=better trap
Yup
Yeah so I could've gotten more value off of hourly or 8 hour traps like I said rather than 60
Well if you claim without delay
I got this + 15 i used to craft deuscythe today
I just can't constantly be on this game to claim 20 minute traps so I just did the lazy 60 hour trap
This game reward active playstyle
The problem is, claim everytime traps are done without delay so much
For 1050m vials, i use 20 mins traps and use clock in my phone for claim it
activeon
Is cooking bugged right now ? After 18 hours of AFK, the meal produced on 8 kitchens didn't increased one bit
Multikill from Deathnote only works for the specific world
Other Multikill bonuses works for everything
ahh okay
Maybe I won't have the 10 black lenses by morning
Target: 1m death note kill from w1 to w3
Progress: gmush complete
Frogs work in progress
Kills per hour= 70k
Goodluck
How do you get 70k kills per hour
by getting better.
!w3merits
!merit3
1๏ธโฃ One point into Telekinetic Storage which has an ability to deposit all items in your inventory into the chest while destroying everything on the ground. This is a great quality of life feature. Skip this if you have the ram companion.
2๏ธโฃ Buy until you have 3 building spots and 3 food slots. This can be between 0 and 2 purchases depending on gem shop purchases. Food slots will help your pusher go faster and 3 building spots is a 50% construction speed boost.
3๏ธโฃ Talent levels are hugely important and the library should be used as much as possible.
4๏ธโฃ The 3D printer will be how you get most of you skilling materials in the future. To make good use of it you need your sample size to be as close to the 90% cap as possible.
5๏ธโฃ Buy the rest. More slots = more better.
6๏ธโฃ Leveling telekinetic storage gives up to +13.6% Carry Cap which is good for afking longer, stamps and crafting, but is not a priority early on.
7๏ธโฃ You won't get enough points to consider buying respawn for a long time by which you will have cleared all W3 portals.
Get the first level when you reach rank 3 on orange salt and get another level each time a new salt reaches rank 3.
โ๏ธ The last recipe is for the Chizoars Caustic Scarf which is best in slot for a long time giving both damage and respawn. Get this when you can complete the associated task of beating Chizoar with 8 characters. Other recipes are for Chizoar gear. The helmet gives +15% damage and can be considered if you are making purple salt. The other pieces are mediocre but some make the chestplate for 3% damage.
cant imagine doing that grind with 70k kills per hour 
by being later on in the game
by getting better.
neednt i say more
Should I reset or greatest catch now or wait later still?
should be fine to mega reset
POG
Spent some on red already
sup?
lmao
yuh annoying
very
how many chows do i want before parking bb at cooking
and it even comes option to restart after few seconds
Is there a trick to getting skull points faster
Hi guys. As a noob struggling with chest space, can anyone confirm that duplicate talent books, duplicate chests and duplicate stamps are useless, so I should simply sell them? Thanks ๐
SB I find the best for that specific Rift challenge
they are useless yes
not es?
any opinions on what to get next
Yeah, I use SB, decent kph
Thanks pal
SB pretty fast with the vman enhancement
it also makes 75 flag a joke to get
DK with big daggerang may be fast but I'm not at that talent level to confirm
eh dk's kinda poor for that specific challenge
because you have to kill all to get a respawn, and the map is pretty big with easy to miss areas
All except killroy easy
sorry I meant specifically for the upgrades lol
maybe more DR?
DR, damage, wizard tower dam,
Oh
or slow roast wiz seems good too
Is there an explanation here about the Purple Tube and Green Tube for Bubo talents.
damn you guys are gonna make me redo my TD again 
I can't TD
Important, need souls for some things mid/late
And vials
Very simple. Is your bubo to the left or the right of the character on the mainframe. THat should answer your question
yea I know just memeing. Wizard tower damage makes the most sense for sure
oo 2 new green stacks today, 11 now we getting somewhere
Bubo first left=more pjs range
have you gotten the store's easy green stacks yet
Bubo at the end of lab=all get more xp
no, I got no money 
yeah but like was there an explanation or guide to explain it, so I don't have to explain it later?
I buy out w1 to 3
I noticed I called it "hand" where it is "Tubes"
so uh, make a document and put your answer there then you can copy and paste
, not that I know of
fair
Hand, tubes, same thing
I think I was thinking of Mastro Talents
yeah makes sense
Time to do w4 skilling
Ribbons on corndog cabbage and egg should help a bit
I like when my IT is spammed with 1 laddle procs, probably 0.1 laddles if you ask me
true lmao
I split my 6 kitchens on 6 different dishes and they all got 2 levels 
1 ladle gaming
why can i not see below bamboo forest spice?\
maybe it'll be unlocked after you did bamboo forest? idk
i think that then probs
yeah most likely
ngl the new gempack is S tier, the daily 5 ribbons, even without having DB is such a nice addition to meals
hello i have question pls help me
True
you didnt learn how to do so
have you built the 3d printer in construction
sry for late respond but yhe the looter one
i builded it
how to take samples
or just use setup that autoreview scoli recommends
so you got that sample talent right
yes how can i use it
now you need to be at monster map to get monster resources
or you must hit resource (if that map also has monsters) then take sample for that resource
oh okeyy
now you got samples in ur printer that u can print
thanks so much
u can find that in yt, guides.
What is Best pet comp I have all genes I need to beat 3rd to last spice battle
check pins
choccies instead? its a linear map
you'll have to experiment with it tho
It seems I am able to push my cooldown all the way down mostly when I clear the map on flombs since there's a good enough density
damage not there yet, that's my main constraint really
you're level 300..
w6 mobs xp so it's hyperinflated
I'm catching everything up
yeah and so is w6 mob hp
I'm not pushing w6, just finding maps to do CC on so I can push alch a bit
I'm getting locked by liquids
idk, you should be able to do citringes if you are already in w6
citringes is ur best bet, just spec into more damage
You don't want to know how easy it is to get to w6 now..
your damage skyrockets in w6 too fyi
definitely enough to one shot citringes with aura
do some summoning, it gives crazy damage
which is all you need
craft chizoar set, equip damage food
oh I know the issue
Iโve started summoning, I think I should probably craft chizoar armor for my bubo too
midas hand? 
ah k
prevents all ability usage till ur next basic attack
and chem warfare is useless to equip, it's only leveled for poison damage scaling
yeah, you wanna use 4 skills at best, maybe 5 if you equip the stim throwing one
ah I see
cc -> respawn -> aura -> fart cloud, in this order afaik
that's for tentieye 200+
that order + bounce skull is fine
200+ doesn't have skull cause the others refresh too fast
bounce skull is only sub200 tent?
ah nice, didnt know that
well, I'll slowly figure things out, I'm in the midst of building damage at the moment I tripled my damage in 2 days. Puts into context how easy it is to get to w6 now
Cooking is definitely helping a bit
summoning + farming boosts damage tremendously
ah, farming still going slowly
make sure to unlock the crop depot dude
ye
OH finally, a 100% on harriep, gonna get that, I'm so done with this guy
I've been honoured to be part of the 3% that took so long to get harriep
Anyways, thanks for the help. Seems like I'll be using flombeiges while my damage is still low and switch to citringes eventually
hows your roadkill bubble going
yeah, get that going
I plan to hard focus this bubble for a while
dunno how recent your toilet log print is, you could probably resample
yesterday, tripled it
damn aight aight
yeah, just kinda still figuring things out
resampled a lot of things especially with nobisect thing and some cooking gains
also leveled royal sampler and skilled dimwit so that helped
nobisect? I hope you meant snehebatu
whichever it was 
the afk gain one
ah k
ah the biggest one was I finally got my vman ahead on fishing choppin mining and catching
that kinda prompted me to resample
I think maybe start with CC then going for skilling bubbles over damage?
500k oak print isn't going to cut it
definitely, skilling bubbles are way more important
you could always skyrocket your log prints with booked logs on logs
Yep, I max booked it on my ESs and Bubo
Yeah, I'm going to level my towers a bit first, 70 on both TDs.. construction taking a toll
I just can't get enough xp to keep up for the longest time
I mean, the biggest source of damage now would probably be lustre weapons which require me to do skilling so..
Slowly 
100m max now, 1B in 2 weeks maybe?
I'm definitely still in the terriotory where I can push my damage high really quickly if I looked hard enough
you want stingers on bubo for cc tho ๐
If you want range to be lower get the boxing gloves
you have 2 upgrade slots on stinger tho if you wanna put some w6 stones onto it
extra wisdom and weapon power never hurts
and its only 5 reach in difference
unless it fails lmao
be in a guild with maxed out stone upgrade chance %, caps out at 83% for w6
idk man 17% is still a little dangerous
for a pair of stingers? 
I'd understand not wanting to fail on a godshard weapon or whatever the hottest shiz is
Godshard is the final tier but iirc the misc bonuses of some lower tiers are better in some situations
I mean if you fail on stingers you can just make another pair
thats what I was getting at
Eh, no damage rn and it's a map with small platforms so he'll have to walk up anyways
I use stingers
anyone got the rank guide for salts like what rank each needs to be to be self sufficent
Yeah, gotta build damage first
Not sure if anything changed by this on is old (use if lazy to press rank button)
2nd top pin
tells you all rank thresholds ever
I already linked that !
ty
i just realized that hoggi's full name is hoggindaz and it's a reference to haagen-dazs
yes there are many references to something called 'pop culture', which is assumed to be some sort of Bubble Religion in their land
rn i dont feel like playing cuz idk what i should do.
Thanks, Early W1
Get wows on every mob maybe?
whats wows
db new zow/chow
Apocalypse Wow gives you golden food bonus % for every mob you kill 1b of
i just realized a lot of things in idleon have names that are references
I think it's 1b or 10b I forgot
i dont even have 10m/500m on db
why is the idleon wiki so slow
new host
sad thing is db active tombstone kills dont count ๐ฆ
db is better at afk farming for kill anyway
because of decimator and the kpk talent and family bonus
db talent themselves will be limited becasue of lvl, other tab would depend on the warrior talent bubble
royal traps are basically the go to once unlocked right (assuming you're not farming xp with nature traps)
thanks
pretty much as high as you can get when farming samurai and depending on your GT
the farther you get in portals, the easier xp will be
Guys, i remember there's an effect where if my character is assigned to a lab, it will also count the afk gain for divinity
I forgot where it's from and now it's not working anymore for me, can u guys tell me where the bonus is from?
keep lettign it push, you can also get bubo to do some CC and just spend the water on GT
goat god
i started sigils now @uneven obsidian
Oh aight lemme check, thanks!
Goharut, the 5th divine
how far are you in the jade emporium ?
if you got tuttle, focus on getting that vial maxed
9
20min claim are not fun but they work for that
i dont have thta much eff yet
Oh yea thankss
i do 10h traps rn pretty inefficient but well
Anyone have some deep insights on tower defense
did you max the onker vial ?
you're also "close" to the crop scientist bonus that increase critter per traps
??
not much, i just follow the guide posted
Cuz I wanna know how much I could push tower defense of world 6
would depend on your tower lvl, your cannoli lvl and the equinox buff strenght
Cannoli around 45 ig and equinox max 5/5 and tower level poisonic 56-58 and kranken 50 and void 21 and party 58
yoo guys, is the crit dmg from dk spawn talent passive?
Oh
it's suprisingly easy compared to world 5's in terms of just getting a few decent waves done
Yes
I think? Maybe probably? I mean considering the dungeon horn of the foal thing it's probably yes
Ahh I see I wanted to make sure I can get to atleast 100 before I do cuz it will be a waste of worship charge if I can reach a high waves
My void is very low aswell so the lack of range is gonna be a problem ig ?
ehhh
Is the void supposed to hit the top platform aswell ?
the monsters come from the bottom so no, and you likely wont have much problem with it
what is the easiest star obol to get? I have 2 empty ones for family
I got to wave 70 with significantly worse towers and worse equinox on my first try (although maybe better cannoli?) and the guy who posted the setup is a wave 170 with his tower levels, for reference
No point in waiting to get some waves done on the TD anyways, especially if its your first time
The equinox buff is the one which boost the damage as the wave goes right ?
yeah
Ya ya true true I ll just do it
The world 5 td is outdated in this sheet aswell right
which makes it so, sometimes you're better off just spamming out all 10 waves early
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Cuz u can't place the tower in the starting like near the portal
im upgrading library in construction, when do i get bonus library levels
Yup anyways thanks a lot 
(all of those guides are done with super low cannoli levels as well, which is good news for us)
Ahhh
but the stormcallers arent the most important towers either, and those ones are usually only used for the crit bonus anyways. So placing it somewhere else or not having the second one at all isnt the biggest deal I guess
if you mean library up to lvl 200, that need rift 41 for construction mastery and 1000 building level total
oh ok, so its above level 200, which i dont have
i mean when do i get extra levels of books
mb
theres a picture floating somewhere that list all the + max talent source, i just dont have it on hand
wtf
crystal mob in your vicinity?
its fixed now so that is possible
is it worth to upgrade the lab shoes?
there is a 2nd lab jail so extra efficiency doesnt hurt I guess
If you can do it easily, then why not
or did you mean upgrade stones?
I have reached the point where mobs are actually gonna be a problem, grats, me!
yes upgrade stones
im in w4 
pmush diff 
that's where healing food comes in and makes them not a problem
Hemoglobin champ
or both 
is there any way to make certain armor pieces invisible?
I'm wearing the deathbringer hood but I want my regular helmet to show instead
No
you can premiumify a regular helmet and then swap misc bonuses
Rip the drip

WOOH MY SPICES WONT BE SO ASS NO MORE is the google doc still the same thing for this or nah?
Still good
Alright nice thanks
No, but some have higher % boosts so you can put more effective toons on cauldrons you want to focus
anyone have a recomended build for dk? just unlocked him and the site ive been using has nothing
Im talking about damage
what about it
I have none
oh ok
it's acc that's the issue
Upgrade the combat talents in your combat preset and the skilling talents in your skilling preset.
Other than that, youโll wanna have points in king of the remembered, and 1 in symbols
i just got vman and got 300 void points, how do i distribute them?
Has anyone had issues with the bottled world TP just not saving when u go idle? Ive bought it on 2 characters now and every time I go afk I come back and its gone
you can't teleport for free between towns?
ive bought it twice, and it just keeps dissapearing whenever I log back in
You didn't answer my question
bruh lol
no I cannot tp free back to town (This doesnt include the portal between towns as that was always free
then what is the issue?
You said bottled world teleport would not save but it is already in effect
im so confused, when I activated it, it allowed me to teleport from any part of the map back to the home towns free of charge
that effect lasted indefinitely til I logged off, when I logged back in from idling, the effect is gone
no, it allows for free teleports between towns not to town.
u need to use bottled teleport
you use the normal town teleport to teleport for free
if u do tp via map it uses teleport
350 to this ig 400 will be decent to stop for now
ah okay ur right I just misread its description, thats kinda useless considering the portals exist lol
It is okay we all misread sometimes.
Hit 90
nice! not over yet right? 
why on es tho bm should be a bit easier
I think I m at my limit or maybe if I don't skip anymore waves I can do more maybe maybe not sure
Yesh my besstmaster didn't reach this world yet 
oh yeah good point lol
did my first world 6 td on dk, atleast ES has a slow and multihit
slow what?
Ice shard perhaps?
oo
which map do I farm for genes in w3? I swear I saw a post about it somewhere but cant find it
np
moustache
Stache
yup, thanks guys 
hey how do i get post office crates2
you need to unlock the 6th post box order first
ok
any tips on how to do this?
Is there something I have to do first so that I could get shiny critters or am I just super unlucky?(Did it like twenty times and still no shiny critter)
ES or SB are good for it
Just don't kill all mobs to let skulls spread
20min traps and save the first shiny frog to make a silk trap
if you can, use hunter eagle eye talent to claim traps and have some points in the +shiny rate talent
does this also increase rift kills?
not sure, for most of us when rift came out all lab node where up already , so dunno if it was ever tested
Should I use the faster traps. Or the ones that take days?
the shortest you are comfortable with
wookie, since you are here, confirm something for me
multikill affects the base material from mobs that arent crystals, right? like gmush cap, carrot cubes, nothing else that's drop related, right?
thanks 
so i need luck great, never getting past this oneโฆ
guys, got any tips for easy win for this please?
anyone got every source of attack speed?
Search every bonus in Idleon!
thanks
Yo how do i actually place a trap? Im on mobile if that helps
buy trap from w3 vendor, interact with hunter in the map left of w3, go to slime map in w1 and place trap by going to the frogs on the left side of that map
Im there but can't get a trap placed. I clicked the little menu thing
you see these ?
Yeah that
when you tap place trap does it open a menu ?
i think you just need to double tap the one you wanna palce, been forever since i did so manualy
yeah double tap
Oh hm.. ima try it
How do i get enough def to pushbtrough w4
do you have food equipped?
Si
you dont really need def
you will not have enough def to get 0 dmg but food and goblet will carry u
what level is ur goblet?
Omg thank you. Man that was confusing lol ๐
I am so close to W4 just need to finish speakers and kill boss. What is the first thing I should run to as soon as I get to w4?
save the first shiny frog you get to make a silk trap
is splicing result based on true kills or death note kills?
look at autoreview
If someone want to do dungeon W3 i need it for cloud
Get master classes asap w4 4th map. They'll be big boosts to your fighting gains or skilling gains. Start researching guides on breeding and how it works. You can throw a couple guys in lab early and get them up or wait till you get lab equipment from w4 mobs.
Cooking is an important skill but you don't have to do research on it. It's pretty easy to understand.
Buy w4 stones everyday if you can afford them. Also purchase the splicer for all characters (you'll find out what that is when search up breeding guides) and buy the two things at the top. The green chip thing and the purple orange jewel thing. Only 1 a day and you need 3 and 7 respectively.
I think that's about it for what to do straight away
Alright I will probably put shaman and and Bowman into lab then push with barb and squire to get their class up
Perfect idea. After squire and barb I highly recommend a wizard! Without spoiling the class, farming previous world mob loot is about to get very easy and very fast!
Anyone know of any issues fighting chaotic troll? I'm using the repeat battle at the top, but every now and then, I win a task and can't hit him, won't let me, I have to leave and go back in and that's a waste of my keys.
Yeah I was planning the wizard but didn't know if I wanted levels on him first or to just push
If possible id idle wizard and barb and active push on my squire
If you're only able to push one toon at a time then just do squire first.
Yeah I might also attach the giant mobs. Might slow active but I will get candies
does trapper drone take into account the trapping efficiency of just the character using it or is it all the characters those traps are on?
its only a few a week anyway
Go for it! Once your giant chance is too high you can just unequip it. Mine 1 in 8.7k
Character too
K
character using it, so can use hunter to place trap for everyone and benefit from his better stats
So low eff on character means less critters
Ah got it, tyvm
Maybe try report the issue?
I need to do something with my hunter lol
He just at green spores for the caps rn but maybe should be used somewhere else when I get w4
Lol
Dang and I was really looking forward to the BM
To the prison cells he goes
So
Shaman+Bowman โ Lab
Hunter โ perma lab jail
Wizard+Barb+Squire โ push and get lab equipment
Buy splicer for all, then green chip+purple orange jewel thing, and then w4 stones if affordable
Learn breeding and do cooking
Is that everything?
w4 is not master classes.
Didn't mean master classes but whatever class is w4 called.
Eh I knew what he meant
That's what I was trying to ascertain, whether it's and issue or it if was just that troll trolling me and it was part of the game.
It's the same thing anyways just rank up my classes in the end of the day no matter what it's called in my view

Working on roo and Orion with my hunter rn
Have crystal printer bought from w3 gem shop?
Hmm first brimstone forge or bleach liquid is good as well
I have a brimstone at least
Well you have most of the things recommended to get early, so either get yourself bleach liquid, more sampling slots or just keep in case something from rotating shop comes thatโs good enough
True
In w4 thereโs maybe the first kitchen upgrade that you can buy
I only have like 187 left cuz like I said bought card slots and G.Anvil
I'll start saving again
Good 
What is the best way to achieve 10k+ green mushroom ?
I'm Maestro lvl 110 and I heard about the V-Man quest
rn i have 5k green mushroom per hour
Accidentally fish reset-
anyone like to farm in party? Server Baloon 9
12M kills, tbh donโt think about it till youโre w5/w6, like I started around mid w5 and by the time I was w6 I was almost finished
Hi! Im asking here because im in somewhat mid w3. What should I buy with gems after gold anvil and Crystal printer?
Yes
Crystal printer should be top prio, and probably the best gem upgrade you can get
Yes its really good! Im asking what to buy after it
readings hard !
can happen to anyone
Its okay lol
You can buy first brimstone forge, first bleach liquid, card slots or save for later worlds gem shop upgrade or rotating shop
tbf waiting a bit for forge isnt being a problem
waiting for liquid tho is annoying
I think I will buy liquid and afterwards card slots
What does that say
@eager sphinx did you make it?
Hmm something about being hard ||(not me)||
Oh, the mining efficiency was chosen, do I now go for the mining prints redo?
No on speaker
damn
it at least spead up the process a little bit
And I just accidentally did a fish reset- not even mega reset-
Got like 60 points at least
Well it happened for everyone donโt worry
I once did a normal reset with NO investing point bought 
That makes 6 fish resets that could have been for more points-
Basically when I first started roo
6?! Damn
Rip
I only had 2 resets I think with no investing points
but I've done it since mega fish 1 (I've not done a normal reset since)
Yeah I didn't know so I had 5 resets before
hows your owl?
Speaking of Mega Fish, I'm about to get my 8th
owl suck for about 4 reset after a mega
they give you a lot of useful states so try to get both to 10 mega
really wished lava would have made so that the fractal feather add a additional effect : after mega reset, set normal reset to x, where x is multiple of 5 mega reset
Is this good so far? I could've got mega fish 8 right when I came back, but I opted for extra points on next reset (Delaying it a bit)
Ya see my Orion is past 10
Ah
the thing you have 3 of rn
Ye
is the giant mob prayer good? or risky
Good
works only on active i gues
Giant mob = candy + gem (tho youโll really start to farm them later in the game)
if your farming with a low lvl charecter then its bad but if your using your pusher then its fine
Should I try to get my owl to the last mega feather today?
Yeah itโs like crystal mobs
would be helpful
It's also the last mega feather recommended in early w4
Just get all MF then youโll finally start the owl grind with fractal feathers
thx for the reminder
like i said earlier try to get fractal feather / fish to 10 at least then go back to it once your in late w5 to w6
but yeah now its a real grind
is this good or should i be grinding the owl more
is alchemy node the furthest I can reasonably reach until w5
which one?
no bubble left behind
you should be able to get the last feather to like 6-7 before it start to take days for the next reset
you can get last feather to 10 before it takes days
there's a spreadsheet somewhere
if you spend time cooking and leaving your guys in lab you should be able to get to the one behind nblb
and should i focus on fractal feather or orion bonus?
whichever is cheaper
both
pretty much
if orion is cheaper buy it, otherwise megafeather
Oh, yw
the feather is like 1m times cheaper
Not sure how to get this to proc
Went back to cloudsave menu and all
reaching the bonus takes like an hour, or maybe even more, whereas the feather takes only 10-15 mins
i mean if you're at e34 for the orion bonuses you should be at the same for megafeather
you could double all your bonuses by upgrading the megafeather
give me 5 mins i will show the difference
seem like they might have focused on orion bonus and avoided doing mega reset
yeah just before the fractal i grinded the bonus a lot
yeah, you might as well get fractal cost caught up with orion at this point
it will boost all the bonuses after all
the difference
I'll show my owl once I unlock mega reset
yeah focus on mega until it catch up to orion cost
yeah, you would have almost double all bonuses if you got to 10 feathers
