midgame-chat-w3🧊w4🔮

[atomic fable]

by the time I unlock it on tome

[bronze moth]

after lab should I grind char levels because they are less than level 100 rn (also free dream cloud)

[glacial turtle]

@bronze moth 3 more maps and then you farm for the 1 in 15000 boss key drop

[bronze moth]

yes

[atomic fable]

I did start to build the atom collider, but that's only because I had nothing else to build

[bronze moth]

wait does toxic mushroom miniboss have a chance of dropping the key?

because i remember tufty kibbles got one from beating mushroom boss

[atomic fable]

should I stop building the atom collider or do I leave it to build?

[sudden wadi]

dont build the atom collider

[bronze moth]

les goo

[atomic fable]

I did had to start it as I had nothing else I could build comfortably prior to the red salt rank up

[glacial turtle]

@atomic fablewhat level are your towers youll need them for worship

[atomic fable]

Roller is level 18

The 1st 3 towers are level 10+

[atomic fable]

the rest are below level 10

[bronze moth]

the wiki homepage is gone now 😭

[glacial turtle]

up grade the boost and lighting towers

[atomic fable]

I'm currently building the 8th tower

so should I now stop upgrading the roller one?

[glacial turtle]

yea i think your rollers fine for now

[tender slate]

Hey guys if I wanna get dementer bars so I do world 3 colosseum? ( to grab some rq)

[eager sphinx]

I got that card from a card pack that was like 1 gem for some reason

[atomic fable]

Alright

[sudden wadi]

sick

do you know what card pack it was?

[eager sphinx]

I dunno why it was cheep but I bought it

[sudden wadi]

and if you got any others?

[scarlet tapir]

How can I get free time candy pla

[eager sphinx]

Unfortunately not but it was in the gem shop and had 1 in stock

[atomic fable]

What about the frozone tower?

I have that at level 8

[eager sphinx]

I tried to find it again but I cant. I was looking forward to buying more

[bronze moth]

basketball minigame every reset

or minibosses

[scarlet tapir]

Thanks

[tender slate]

Hey can I ask Hey guys if I wanna get dementer bars so I do world 3 colosseum? ( to grab some rq)

[bronze moth]

i'm not quite sure if the w3 colesseum gives dementia bars

[glacial turtle]

@scarlet tapir fishing has an area with a raft that goes to crystal island that has daily crystal mobs that drop some candy also look through your quests and see what has candy as a reward

[tender slate]

Ah I see thank u anyway Freind

[bronze moth]

how do I summon toxic mushroom miniboss?

[sudden wadi]

if you look in your card area is there any cards that are higher then 1*?

through radioactive waste on the ground

[glacial turtle]

@bronze moth active kill the p mushroom drop the slime bars they give you on mushrooms above them

[eager sphinx]

This?

[sudden wadi]

all cards in general but yes

[eager sphinx]

I also got these 2 from it

[sudden wadi]

those 2 are pretty good

[atomic fable]

Okay, so purple mushroom has a stamp to collect (Noticed in rare drops)

[sudden wadi]

1 is a passive card so it will always be active no matter if its in the card slot or not

[bronze moth]

oh god

[burnt vortex]

dont worry they dont have much hp

[glacial turtle]

@bronze moth oh yea the spawns save up over the days

[sudden wadi]

and the other gives you exp while fighting which will help you lvl up faster

[glacial turtle]

forgot that

[bronze moth]

how much hp do they have

[atomic fable]

For me, 3 would spawn if I was to spawn them

[glacial turtle]

120m

good luck

[bronze moth]

uh oh

[atomic fable]

Drone, do you think I might be able to do it with my es?

or is that maybe asking for trouble...

[bronze moth]

my food can keep me up but i only have like 500k dmg so it would take long

[eager sphinx]

Thats my barb's cards

[glacial turtle]

just have lots of food itll just take awhile they dont go anywhere

[torpid acorn]

does lab xp scale with amount of nodes captured?

[bronze moth]

at least more candy 🤑

[atomic fable]

is it worth if I can to do that mini boss?

at early w4

[bronze moth]

the energy balls are annoying asf

[sudden wadi]

thats pretty good, once you have more gems open the other 3 slots but if you need more acc for anything then sand castle card is a pretty good one

[torpid acorn]

wait until theres a quest for it a few maps in

it gives keys

[atomic fable]

Alright, that'll probably transition me to mid w4?

[torpid acorn]

the miniboss that is

[eager sphinx]

I got accuracy now thanks to my guild helping a happy hour

[bronze moth]

what map

[bronze moth]

dungeon happy hours are OP

[sudden wadi]

3 portals left!

[eager sphinx]

We had a terrible run someone messed up their talents bringing the wrong ones and they only got Foal at the end

[torpid acorn]

i cant remember im pretty sure its worms

[eager sphinx]

But I still made a lot of profit

[eager sphinx]

Yes I am almost at the next area

[bronze moth]

is the royal worm quest worth it for the talent books

[eager sphinx]

Golden anvil or card slot?

[sudden wadi]

golden anvil

crystal printer

[eager sphinx]

I am close to the G.Anvil

[sudden wadi]

card slots

[torpid acorn]

yeah its worms im just trying to find the map but the archive wiki is slow

[bronze moth]

idleon.wiki is tweaking rn bro

it might be an outage with their hosting service

[eager sphinx]

I have C.Printer which is a nice boost doubling my printing output pretty much

[bronze moth]

yeah crystal printer is a lifesaver

[torpid acorn]

https://web.archive.org/web/20240313230358/https://idleon.wiki/wiki/Worlds#Wurm_Highway use this archive wiki

[eager sphinx]

I just want more gains already lol

[torpid acorn]

fifth map

[eager sphinx]

I learned about star signs yesterday and doing well on them

[sudden wadi]

w4 coming soon which means elite classes!!!

[bronze moth]

wait is the royal worm quest (NPC, flying worms) worth it to do?

BRO

[light latch]

Dumb Question Inc, Do I need to leave my charcters in the test tube after uploading them?

[eager sphinx]

And means.....MORE GRINDING!!! Insert deep voice and loud dramatic effects+sounds in the background

[bronze moth]

does my internet hate me or something 😭

[bronze moth]

pewpewpewpewpew

[sudden wadi]

yes

[jovial bear]

What should I start off with for w3? Ive finished the intro to the skills and I'm wondering what to do next

[eager sphinx]

What a great reward for passing the world. More grinding lol

[eager sphinx]

Cogs unless I am wrong. and construction in general

[torpid acorn]

first one is, past that its a late game quest it seems

[light latch]

is it better to close the game for AFK hours or leave at elast one active?

[sudden wadi]

afk

[bronze moth]

free dementia net!!!

[sudden wadi]

lab dosent give you xp if your active

[bronze moth]

welll kinda free

[light latch]

thank you

[rustic elbow]

I'm doing Diner Deliverer quest (get genetic splicing to lvl 3). But I've already leveled it up to 2, but it shows as 0 in the quest helper :O\

[sudden wadi]

get crystal printer in the w3 item shop and go around grabbing some prints that could be of use to you like gold or plat ore

[eager sphinx]

I just print copper since alchemy and refinery

[true hamlet]

Upgrade something and it will update

[bronze moth]

does only doot drop candy?

[rustic elbow]

oh ok. I guess it has to be on the character with the quest too, otherwise it would have worked before

[true hamlet]

Yeah

[true hamlet]

No, there's other sources

[atomic fable]

I need to grind giga frogs again 😦

for the archer anvil points

[white lintel]

For what?

Ah, ES for that

And while your at it keep all the pop obols that you get

[atomic fable]

The anvil point order I'm doing for my archers is Bowman then BM

since I think my bowman is higher level

[bronze moth]

dang pheonix wings and robe while having just entered w4

[glacial turtle]

thepower of money

[atomic fable]

I just remembered I disabled the drop lol

so I had to enable it again

[bronze moth]

wow toxic mushrooms are easy

barely any dmg with food

i'm scared for dilapidated slush tho

[sudden wadi]

it actually want to know who here plays in a crowded server and or here plays in a server with like 1 or 2 other people in it?

[sudden wadi]

they cant move, youll be fine

[bronze moth]

i remember someone said they deal a ton of dmg

[sudden wadi]

20k damage

but just dont touch them

[atomic fable]

Do I get rid of any other obols I get?

[bronze moth]

1 more level till i can summon them

[sudden wadi]

no, fragments

[atomic fable]

true

[bronze moth]

yeah problem is that this is my first time beating them meaning theres more than 1 that will spawn

[atomic fable]

I was more saying do I turn all non-pop obols to fragments

unless there's another useful one

[sudden wadi]

yes turn all non-pop into fragments

[atomic fable]

I only have 3 pop obols

and all 3 are in family tab atm

I've just moved the dice obol to family

so everyone gets +5% drop rate

[sweet isle]

Any way to check on the time of your traps, figured it would be in the quick ref but its not

[atomic fable]

Eagle Eye or Trap Drone (Once unlocked) for in-game

[sudden wadi]

trap drone or eagle eye on hunter

[atomic fable]

After my maestro levels up fishing to 35, what do I gain skilling xp on next? Mining, Catching or Chopping

which are the hardest 3 for it to catch up

[sudden wadi]

mining

[atomic fable]

Alright

Ik It should be getting lab xp, but I can work on that once right arm is fully utilised

[deep wigeon]

do they have to be connnected to it from the left, or connected to anyone as long as they are further left? basicly dog is bubo, do ice cream head get buff?

[patent isle]

does anyone know some sort of method for Yondergreens coins on the ground quest step

[atomic fable]

I'm not fully sure here - it might be further left?

[patent isle]

i keep getting the pens and then having to pick it up losing like 5 coins very time

[bronze moth]

rn i'm just using time candy to shorten the amt of time it takes to push each map

[atomic fable]

I might want to try to increase my carry capacity on my es later

[bronze moth]

rn without candies it would take me 90 hrs

[atomic fable]

since I'll be using it a lot for mob drops on non-rare

[true hamlet]

Their placement on the board (they don't have to be connected) determines whether it procs

[atomic fable]

Should I try to get my es and archers to the dementia material bag?

[rustic elbow]

oh god getting accuracy for w4 is kicking my ass. shaq is pain because bloaches are slow 🥲

[patent isle]

have you got the red frisbee ring?

[rustic elbow]

never heard ofit

[patent isle]

the first plant pot in W1 in the big tree his quest gives you a red frisbee ring wich give +35 accuracy

[bronze moth]

is ur fisheroo not at fractals yet? starsigns not on? w3 card set? balance of pain prayer? dk or other class?

[atomic fable]

The archers for the anvil capacity, es for the longer mob farming

[rustic elbow]

Ohh hmm interesting. 35 doesn't seem like much though?

[bronze moth]

do you need better gear? fly vial?

[patent isle]

it changes mine alot

[deep wigeon]

do u have the 3 cards?

[patent isle]

has anyone completed Yondergreens quest?

[rustic elbow]

i have nyeptune & sandcastle

[bronze moth]

you need the extra card slots? neyeptune card? accuracy stat cards?

also if your armor is newly crafted, you should probably craft with w4 stones on mage character

[rustic elbow]

oh i only have 4 card slot

[deep wigeon]

how high? and wood mushroom from world 1 is as good as nyeptunne

[atomic fable]

I'm going to try to keep up with owl a bit during mob grinding

using IT as a guide on when I should move back to reset

[rustic elbow]

1 star castle, 0 star nyep. heh guess that's something i could work on

card farm poopy though 🥲

[deep wigeon]

equip card dr cards like mustache, snelbie and bull frog when u enter a map, then swap to normal dr cards when u have entered map then just active there, if u have ES use it

[rustic elbow]

i just got es, but only like 70~ talent points for tab 4.

Oh weird, if you unequip cards they still apply?

[deep wigeon]

dr card, cards only calculates when u enter the map so as long as you dont swap char annd stay active ye

[deep wigeon]

thats fine just make sure u got atleast 1 point into this

[rustic elbow]

oh, using DK with his respawn thingy isn't as good?

[atomic fable]

I have this at level 51, that good? (I can get it up to level 58 if I wanted to)

[deep wigeon]

es gets higher dr than dk wich makes it better for basic items and cards, dk kills more faster wich is more optimal for rarer items that crystal mobs drop

[west ingot]

It's good but if your activing I would try to invest into meteor a lot aswell

[atomic fable]

I have it at level 10 for meteor

[west ingot]

[rustic elbow]

oh interesting, very nuanced

[deep wigeon]

50 is a good start then u focus the other stuff

[west ingot]

Meteor is very strong especially stacked with wormhole it's actually crazy

[atomic fable]

True, I should level up meteor a bit

[bronze moth]

tufttyyy

[west ingot]

Wsp

[bronze moth]

i beat 6 toxic mushrooms today 😭

[west ingot]

Toxic mushrooms easy

[bronze moth]

lots of loot but it took a long time

[deep wigeon]

did they taste good?

[bronze moth]

yeah

[west ingot]

Yeah they have more health than w4 boss but they weren't hard just time consuming like you said

[bronze moth]

tasted like the color green idk how to describe it

[west ingot]

I think your just obsessed with green

[deep wigeon]

all the es attacks rly strong

[true hamlet]

ES has high fake dr with wormhole so it is really good for farming base materials. However, DK is indeed faster when clearing a map, increasing the number of crystal mobs you spawn. This allows you to get more rare drops since their loot table has all the rare drops in that world

[bronze moth]

true

but i swear the mushroom was glowing green

[rustic elbow]

ohh interesting. so cards dont count as rare drop ?

[true hamlet]

Rare drops are those in the rare drop loot table which you can check from the card

[indigo stratus]

[rustic elbow]

ohh i see ok, thanks, superhelpful. i dont think i would have discovered any of this stuff if i didn't ask 🥲 complex game

ooh neat pic !

[bronze moth]

i want mman alreadyyy

[west ingot]

I'm pretty sure card drops are their own separate chances only affected by card drop rate things

[atomic fable]

Okay, that makes sense, ES is good for cards and basic mob drops, DK is faster for rare drops due to crystals

[deep wigeon]

yup

[west ingot]

Got my bloach print to 180 grah

[deep wigeon]

oof why u have to remind me i have to resample prints soon its only been a week, but bonuses will still fly

[bronze moth]

11

[indigo stratus]

Nah you want vman already

[bronze moth]

i should probably resample that's a old ass sample

[fading rune]

Ignorance is bliss (meals are definitely max )

[deep wigeon]

just give him some candy🤷‍♂️

[atomic fable]

I might soon be able to go for mega feather 8 (2 away from fractal after that)

[junior karma]

Is it poss to get my class up on W4 just in Amarok armor + Gem Armor buffs

[deep wigeon]

time to unlock higher max lv

[junior karma]

Getting Plat seems so hard because I can only pull off like 200/hr with a lvl 30 miner

[bronze moth]

at least when I get mman my skill eff while go up like crazy

[atomic fable]

I might not be able to do mob drop farming for a bit

I've hit the point I can quickly owl reset

[rustic elbow]

mines 9 lol

[bronze moth]

trueee my plat samples are like 350 best idk like 400

[deep wigeon]

ye, i got to W6 in dementia and flip flops so amarok should be fine, it just depends on ur surviveability and accuracy tbh

[atomic fable]

If I can get mega feather 8, do I prioritise that over mob drop farming?

[deep wigeon]

what mob drops u farming?

[atomic fable]

Giga frogs for anvil

since I've not got many anvil points

[deep wigeon]

u got a Jman?

[atomic fable]

I have a maestro, why?

[deep wigeon]

print em

[atomic fable]

Hold on, I'm able to reset quickly on owl

[indigo stratus]

Lol is jman gonna print like 20 an hour?

[atomic fable]

Got my 8th mega feather!

[bronze moth]

8th megafeather is OP

[true hamlet]

Nice

[atomic fable]

I'm 2 away from fractal feathers

[true hamlet]

Jman and Mman have terrible rates for mob drops and resources but they have nothing better to print.. you'll have really good mob drop rates once you gat vman

[hidden violet]

It’s not really a priority thing. More of what are you in the mood to do haha

[atomic fable]

I ended up reaching the point I was able to quickly get it

so I got it out the way

[indigo stratus]

I'm just saying specifically for anvil points, seems useless

[hidden violet]

Yeah getting up to 10th fractal won’t take too long. After that tho it’ll take some time between fractals

[deep wigeon]

bull frog horns are used for refinery too

[indigo stratus]

Not my point

[true hamlet]

I mean, early on just get refinery prints and the rest can be used for whatever you like. Maybe for things like low level bubbles or stamp materials

[rustic elbow]

printer sample size or max talent book lvl merit 👀 ?

[bronze moth]

which one should I buy

deadwood ui looks nice

but killroy skulls are useful

hmm

[white lintel]

Niether tbh

[bronze moth]

ik but which one would u choose if u had to buy one

[white lintel]

Gun to my head, pull the trigger

[deep wigeon]

just save em tbh

[bronze moth]

[atomic fable]

Idk what to use my 10 skulls on

[white lintel]

Candy

[atomic fable]

Oh yeah to get my elite classes, right?

as that's 1 thing I've not done yet

[white lintel]

And for pushing in general

[atomic fable]

Alright

[cold wraith]

is it normal to get absolutely no dragon statues

[white lintel]

Ish

How long did you afk for?

[cold wraith]

i claimed 13 hours on 9 characters at gloomies and got 600 statues

[glacial turtle]

@atomic fableyour gonna want all the candy for push w4

[atomic fable]

Alright, good to know

[white lintel]

You need more DR and MkPT

[glacial turtle]

yea dragons are pretty rare aren't they?

[cold wraith]

should i not be fighting the boss then to stay at higher mkpt

[white lintel]

You should be fighting the boss for more opals, the boss doesn’t up the mushies hp

[cold wraith]

oh ok

i dont have much dmg which is prolly the problem

[white lintel]

Better to focus on MkPT and DR than straight dmg ynless you for some reason have really basic dmg stuff you haven’t done

[cold wraith]

not rly sure what else i can do to up mkpt

[white lintel]

Like the power bubbles, crystal steak, and stuff like that

[white lintel]

Boss DN, w5 Ecclipse, measure 10, cards, Dnote con lvl, prayers, lab chips (in many ways)

[cold wraith]

only thing i can rly do rn is boss dn and eclipse

[sudden wadi]

arctis how far are you through the game?

[cold wraith]

ive been pumping m10 upgrades, i have mk emp card, maxed dn for construction and the mkpt prayer equipped.. i have 0 lab chips that boost it

[white lintel]

I can give you a specific stat or set of stats if you like or I can send my IT, people have different opinions on what mid-late-end game are so I usually don’t use that as a label for myself

[cold wraith]

hes as end game as you can imagine

[white lintel]

I’m not end game lol

[cold wraith]

what is your grind time bubble

[white lintel]

Like 3k, not great

[cold wraith]

hm

im going to active until 10k

might take another week or so

[white lintel]

I’ll be doing active DB instead of that

[cold wraith]

i dont really like db

[sudden wadi]

main reason i ask is because i just wanted to say that DB in my option is stronger then dk so if bb got that big of a upgrade do you think bubo or dk master class is going to be over powered? or maybe bm will be the strongest for all we know

[cold wraith]

nah bb just needed a respawn talent. its just that db respawn talent happens to be very good

[white lintel]

I liked it when I first found out what it is, but in its current state it’s not fun, no afk bones is not a good design decision and the lack of accuracy bonuses and skilling nodes messing up maps is a big pain point. I figure he’ll get easier with balance updates but in his current state he just eats up so much time for minimal progress on much needed upgrades.

[cold wraith]

are the acc wide bonuses good tho

ive gotten up to the tome buff thing

[white lintel]

Bb is stronger for straight kills absolutely, but unless I’m mistaken DK still takes the cake for rare bags and crystal farming and that sort of thing, so he hasn’t lost his niche. Not much reason to active farm DB other than bones bc you don’t really need more dnote atm, but a new dnote skull may come out in the future so who knows

[white lintel]

Very good

[cold wraith]

aah

[sudden wadi]

well all the buffs his grimoire gives are really good (even if it takes forever to get them)

[cold wraith]

yea idk i have a lot to do before even thinking about it

[sudden wadi]

i had to take a break from active bone farm because i just was so bored

[cold wraith]

ive been doing statues for the past month and a half

[white lintel]

Crop bonus %, max meal lvls, infinite scaling DR, land rank max lvls and % increases, ribbons for meal effect multi, and probably more

[sudden wadi]

combustion is really op if you can get it to trigger every 2 seconds

[cold wraith]

i just want the dr

[white lintel]

You’ll get more DR from new farming than DB, focus on that if you want DR

[sudden wadi]

his later lvls give you points for the other master classes

plus lower atom costs

[cold wraith]

new farming?

[white lintel]

Lvl 40 atoms soon

More crops released and a new crop scaler: DR per crop over 100

[cold wraith]

oh what

[sudden wadi]

i dont have a single onyx statue

[cold wraith]

thats fine if your dr is low

[bronze moth]

i also have no onyx

[atomic fable]

I've not unlocked onyx statues yet

[sudden wadi]

i wouldnt say 20x is low

[bronze moth]

i have 2 more maps till i unlock onyx and 1 map till i can unlock rift

[sudden wadi]

but my account is a pile of shit rn so im focused on other things rn

[cold wraith]

ah

cant be that bad mine was prolly worse

[sudden wadi]

just spent the last 2 days farming bubo to finish alchemy

[cold wraith]

nice

im going to try for 80% bubbles

[sudden wadi]

i wish

havnt reprinted in forever

dont make enough to get any where near 80%

[cold wraith]

i reprinted last week

i was goign to do it again after finishing w6 onyx but apparently dragon "isnt too bad"

[sudden wadi]

lol

[tawny fiber]

with the shrines do you need to afk fight to get time on them or is any afk such as skilling good

[atomic fable]

Afking any skill also works like lab

[edgy shuttle]

Is it worth getting all my characters to equal strength?

Like full dementia and serated Rex rings?

[sudden wadi]

armor wise yes

[atomic fable]

I might want to print void ore soon

[proven river]

is there a guide to the best way to get through the pet battles to unlock more spices?

[zenith hare]

!guide

[candid scarab]

Mid-Late Game guide for World 3 / 4 / 5:
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/e/2PACX-1vSCepYAs6sNDP4iq6MJNAG1pvFXzfC_3IQ7ttt5vfEEKAgQhIk4cQqnLRyeH6UyqDSuP4R-6WQeDmmP/pubhtml
Video Guides (by GriffyBit):
https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLVGSDQs1AcvjYTAPtYV6ofbeeEfHpEcb4

[zenith hare]

the sheet has a whole section on pet battles

and many other things

[proven river]

thanks mate!

[sudden wadi]

i wouldnt go past void armor since youll be making troll armor once you reach w5

[atomic fable]

Alright, so if I was to upgrade, stop at void?

[sudden wadi]

yup

[kindred talon]

When do you unlock elite classes

[sudden wadi]

w4 map 4

[vague pendant]

How hard is the w4 class quest

[sudden wadi]

not hard

[glacial turtle]

easy

kill like 8 dude

[queen juniper]

What is an optimal setup for spice battles? I have all the pets unlocked

[sudden wadi]

^

[atomic fable]

I should soon once I have the candy for it to rush the rest of my elite classes

[sudden wadi]

which classes you missing?

[atomic fable]

Barbarian and Bowman's

[vague pendant]

!merit4

[candid scarab]

1️⃣ Buy one point of spice spillage. This gives you up to a 20% chance to claim all your spices when claiming over an hour of afk gains. Since spices generate more slowly the more you have produced since last claim this will improve spice production.
2️⃣ Having more bubbles get upgraded each day will help a lot, especially when combined with buffs giving more levels per bubble. Only buy this if you can reach the No Bubble Left Behind node in the lab.
3️⃣ Egg capacity is limited and every time the hatchery fills up eggs are wasted until you unlock the rarity upgrade. Also helps you get two achievements with good rewards requiring egg capacity.
4️⃣ Allows you to connect to lab bonuses from slightly farther away which can reduce the number of characters needed in the lab. Note that the max distance between characters, which is called line width, doesn't increase.
5️⃣ Improves kills per hour in W4 but since you likely won't be pushing W4 portals for long this is relatively low priority.
6️⃣ Max level spice spillage triggers every time. They are lower priority since it takes a lot of star talent points and is likely to trigger several times in a row when checking multiple characters.
7️⃣ 3 crystal mobs per day is very little.
Unlocks the recipes for troll armor giving all stat% and the base for all further armor upgrades. It is great but require plenty of Nullo Salt. Don't buy it if you can't craft them.

[sudden wadi]

get barb first since his skills are for w4 even if there not that useful

[atomic fable]

Alright

Is it weird I have dk on the furthest map and my es mob grinding drops (Actively)?

[sudden wadi]

no

[atomic fable]

I'm able to do it that way as I only need 4 characters for refinery speed

[junior karma]

For W4, I got one elite class with my main (lvl 100), the rest of my guys are around 80 but for the life of me I cant get the accuracy high enough to rush classes, Any tips?

[sleek stone]

Alchemy

[sudden wadi]

cards

[sleek stone]

Cards also

[atomic fable]

A few ways: World 4 stones give prmiary stat

you can upgrade the shaq bubble and use accuracy based cards

[junior karma]

My Alchemy is slow rn, Ive been told I need Bubo to make it better

[sleek stone]

And also worship at waka"

[sudden wadi]

yes and no

[sleek stone]

Then stone on w4

[sudden wadi]

bubo wont help you in alchemy till late w5

[glacial turtle]

@junior karma give them low level tools with the new w4 stones the class the puts on the stones gives it there primary stat then give the item to the charater that uses that stat as acc

[junior karma]

I do that then, im only trying to boost alc a tad to unlock Maestro, thats the only thing my journeyman is missing

[atomic fable]

Mage is Agility, Warrior is Wisdom, Archer is Strength If I remember right for accuracy

[sudden wadi]

jman is luck

[glacial turtle]

also this bubble is key for acc throughout the game

[sleek stone]

Or if w4 tools are pricy just go with w3 and rng it

[atomic fable]

Okay, so I was right?

[uneven obsidian]

that invovle reading, we dont do that

[sleek stone]

[glacial turtle]

i feel like i did that wrong

[sudden wadi]

[vague pendant]

Is fishing and catching supposed to start slow

[sudden wadi]

yes

[uneven obsidian]

will always feel slow

[glacial turtle]

me sneaking into the kitchen at 2 in the morning to eat cheese straight from the bag

[sudden wadi]

what type tho?

[sterile kelp]

Is king doot useful at world 3?

[sudden wadi]

no

[glacial turtle]

ether mozzarella or a shredded mix

[sudden wadi]

wont do anything till you reach w5 divinity lvl 2

[sterile kelp]

Ugh

Have to wait a whole world again

[sudden wadi]

dont worry

for doot its worth every second of pain

[uneven obsidian]

hes making the div jail worth every second of it

[sleek stone]

So you guys use es on w5?

With the divinity boost

[sudden wadi]

wdym?

[uneven obsidian]

probably this

[sudden wadi]

i see

[sleek stone]

Yeah

[vague pendant]

What's recommended for 8th character I've got 1 of each and almost maestro

[sudden wadi]

dk

no other option

[vague pendant]

Is that the squire one

[sudden wadi]

yes

[glacial turtle]

i went for a bubo for the lab puppet

[sudden wadi]

construction is very important

plus extra printer output

[glacial turtle]

oh didnt think that would stack yeah that sound fantastic

[sudden wadi]

plus plus gamin' can take forever so the extra states help

[cold wraith]

yikes 108 dragon trophies after 5 hours of afk on 8 characters

rates are getting worse

[glacial turtle]

make me wish i chose different now

[sudden wadi]

what about your 9th and 10th charecters?

[cold wraith]

2 bubo 💀

8th dk, 9th es, 10th you can wait

[high trail]

Okay guys big problem

[sudden wadi]

use poops

[high trail]

instead of box

?

[cold wraith]

upgrade your blooming axe 💀

[high trail]

yhe i got spirit leaks 27k to 111k

but i still need more

[cold wraith]

remove converter and use nuke

[high trail]

yhe true

[forest portal]

what load out did u use for worms? lm kinda stuck

[cold wraith]

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/u/0/d/193tGCv_nJpgleOzQ2jkO9KEpSh8JcOZLdjDolD9Z0FI/htmlview

[forest portal]

ok thx l will try it

[cold wraith]

make sure you read the bottom

[gleaming trout]

I need like alot of critters to lvl up my bubbles would it be best to do 20 min traps

Might have to be active the whole day to collect them every 20 min tho sigh

[cold wraith]

yes

[gleaming trout]

i cant see how ima going be able to have 50m+ crits

im still working on my bubbles

[sudden wadi]

you wont

[gleaming trout]

what do yall do when u need that much critters?

i need 100m+ i beliee to upgrade them with atoms

[gray lion]

Hey can someone help me out with a quest? I need the snake jar one done

[atomic fable]

Oh, which one?

[gray lion]

The one where another player says hi next to him

[glacial turtle]

im just useing the trap that only gives high exp so that all of my guys can equip the best traps and i can have more traps sets

trap maxing

if you would

[atomic fable]

Got both of my archer anvil points up to pocket sand requirement

[gleaming trout]

i guess ima have to work on bubbles that increase my critter count

[atomic fable]

is that good?

[sudden wadi]

get max traps on every charecter, vman is higher then your other charecters in trapping lvl, bubbles, stamps

plenty of ways to get what you want

[gleaming trout]

Alright yeah your right my stamps lacking as well oh boy this going be a long grind fr

my bubbles so bad so been focusing on everything

hmm ok yeah IT says i get 1m critters per claim need work on increasing that somehow

[atomic fable]

Got these 2 stamps unlocked, are they useful?

[cold wraith]

just deposit them and level

[atomic fable]

Alright, that's what I was going to do anyway

[sudden wadi]

dmg% and food boost

[atomic fable]

Okay, those sound helpful, especially food boost

[sudden wadi]

finally got my second DB after not touch that one for so long

[forest portal]

thx l did it

[cold wraith]

at least you didnt get screwed over by having 2 bb

[zenith hare]

did anyone help?

[zenith hare]

me when 2bb is technically best rn

even before DB

ever since hole actually!

[cold wraith]

i mean yea cus 2 sb is useless now

[gleaming trout]

still havent made my last char a SB or BB cant decide yet

[atomic fable]

Is it good that I got my archers more anvil points?

for the speed increase

[gleaming trout]

im not tryna do all my zows and chows again on my 2nd bb...

[zenith hare]

dont do either

[cold wraith]

wait till lava puts out more master classees

[zenith hare]

wait for all master classes first

and dont take what the first person says after that seriously

[gleaming trout]

Yeah that last char been beginner all this time

[zenith hare]

give it like a week after last master class

[gleaming trout]

might be a long while tho sigh

unless lava already plans to work on all the master classes now

[cold wraith]

prob caverns 11-15 next

[zenith hare]

hes had DB planned out for 6 years now

so very likely

[gleaming trout]

Ima wait just incase meta changes im also hoping lava will provide some item to change to another class if we mess up

wanted to pick a class so i can atleast get some prints going on the final char

[atomic fable]

My maestro is almost highest level in fishing

Took a lot longer than I would've liked tbh

[gleaming trout]

catching was the worse for me

[atomic fable]

For me, it's likely going to be mining or chopping - I need level 65

[sudden wadi]

my vman is a whole 80 lvls lower then my DB

[cold wraith]

rip prints

[sudden wadi]

haven't reprinted in forever rip my account

[atomic fable]

Got a new fishing minigame PB (20 -> 23)

while doing minigame plays on the maestro for xp

Is this within balloons range?

if I was to use any

[zenith hare]

do not balloon fishing ever

[atomic fable]

Alright, so either time candy it or afk?

[zenith hare]

1. seasalt island
2. equinox fishing

[atomic fable]

From the best area I have, I'm 5 hours away from it being the highest level (while afk)

[zenith hare]

then just leave it there asleep

[atomic fable]

Alright, I can check later tonight

Should I try to increase my es intentory slots?

Alright, probably should be a priority?

[sudden wadi]

not really unless your running out of storage to quckly / to much

[atomic fable]

Another option is carry capacity since while mob drop farming, I run out of inventory faster than the cooldown for chest teleports

[sudden wadi]

chest teleports?

[atomic fable]

You know the star talent that sends all the inventory to the storage chest?

[sudden wadi]

ohhh i never used that before

[atomic fable]

that's what I mean, it fills up faster than that star talent cooldown

[sudden wadi]

then ya increase carry cap or slots

[atomic fable]

right now I'm trying to increase carry capacity to the highest I can for my es

which is going to be dementia bags

I will have to deal with a 1/15k drop chance, but it shouldn't be a issue

I'll most likely have to do it 3 times for the archers too

for the anvil reason

[sleek stone]

damn portal requirment just gettin high and higher

[atomic fable]

Do you think it's beneficial to have the materials bag as high as possible on all characters? (For anvil reasons)

[sleek stone]

for me yea

[atomic fable]

I plan to at least do it for these 3

Elemental Sorcerer (For Mob Drops)
Bowman (Anvil)
Beast Master (Anvil)

[zenith hare]

mman too

for ur stamps or large monster mat recipes

[atomic fable]

Alright

[zenith hare]

as he has a mob mat bag talent too

[atomic fable]

True, mman has a talent for more storage

Okay, maybe I should do it in this priority: ES -> Mman -> Archers?

[stable valve]

i just max em all

[zenith hare]

imo yeah

[atomic fable]

Alright

[sleek stone]

when buy sample slot its only 1/char?

or

[atomic fable]

It might take a while to get them to dementia bags because my mk in world 3 is very low

[gusty goblet]

Guys

any teasers?

[atomic fable]

But I think it's worth the trouble?

[cerulean meteor]

does DR work for skilling ( asking here bc prayer

[atomic fable]

It works afk I believe?

I'm not entirely sure

[zenith hare]

works for rare drop, not main drop

so the bag portion basically

[cerulean meteor]

k, let me check what rare drops i have to c if i want any

besides lucky lad it seems like i dont want any drops atm

ill equip it anyway

[carmine ferry]

when just entering w3 what should I try to focus on ? Doing more stuff from w1-w2 and trying to max some stuff or should I keep trying to push forward for w4 instead? I already got some 3d print and construction going but the samples seem really weak

[cerulean meteor]

samples get better later, i would push if you can, but do alchemy otherwise

[carmine ferry]

I was thinking to try and push alchemy for the tool efficiency upgrades or the tab points but it just seems sooooo slow (even with upgraded couldrons and such)

[cerulean meteor]

yea, i would boost speed

[carmine ferry]

any other way to boost the speed besides boosts,pay to win and/or vials ?

[cerulean meteor]

boost extra first

other than that i dont think so

[carmine ferry]

and any specific couldron I should try to level up first or keep they equal-ish

[cerulean meteor]

equalish besides yellow i think

[bronze moth]

troll is ez becuz he doesnt attack

[carmine ferry]

how many bubbles unlocked should I aim for ?

[cerulean meteor]

is amethist rhinestone gemstone worth it

[austere maple]

which cards should i rubify first?

[obsidian plover]

I just brought the 2 blue pages for the tome and its added skill efficiency, however its saying 0%, my tome is 4k rn when will this increase? Anything I can do?

[brave crater]

Why is it so bad

[cerulean meteor]

depends on how big the bonus is, but mana and hp probs better

[bronze moth]

u don't have any movement speed above 110%

[atomic fable]

That only starts applying if you have 111% or more movement speed

[brave crater]

Yeah I was on Dk

It’s +121 on siege

[echo radish]

no, quick slap is the most op one out of the 3 by far, not just early on

[brave crater]

It got nerfed doofus

[echo radish]

unless lava hotfixed it today, then its its still the most op

[brave crater]

It’s worse now that’s why u use damage potions instead of speed potions

[cerulean meteor]

ah ok

[echo radish]

i think only the big damage one would be better then the big speed one

well it depends on ur bubble level

[brave crater]

When the person who uses no bubble left behind realizes That you can get BIG damage if u do bubbles. shout out to that guy

[sleek stone]

btw buyin the printer slot only get 1 slot per char or all char?

[sturdy totem]

all

[sleek stone]

ahh okay

need to buy that then

[short kite]

Finally unlocked shiny pets

Any tips regarding that? Should I be focusing any pets in particular?

[bronze moth]

yummy accuracy (at clammies map in pushing rn)

[indigo stratus]

whatt char to push w4

elite

[short kite]

DK

[eager sphinx]

Got to the ice snakes a couple hours ago, but progressed nonetheless. Finally dealing 100k dmg with totems and buffs on. Just a progress report. Any info on the boss I should have?

Or go blind and see what happens?

[west ingot]

Boss is extremely easy

[atomic fable]

Should I maybe after I get stronger capacity bags try to get the rest of the stamps I need?

[bronze moth]

my accuracy got a bit higher from getting 1 megafeather and fish

[atomic fable]

using dk

[west ingot]

I would say go for stamps that will actually help in terms of progression, obviously all stamps do but as in damage mp hp acc def

[bronze moth]

now my char should be able to last till like idk cheese nubs or mister brightside in terms of acc

and I'm currently pushing to equinox

[atomic fable]

I think there's 1 damage stamp ar recommends

It's this one, any idea where?

[west ingot]

It's from mutton the mining pig, you gotta kill rats and shits for fame

[atomic fable]

Oh, it's part of that questline?

[eager sphinx]

Oh I got that one recently I think or it was another one

[west ingot]

Yerp

[atomic fable]

Oh great, I actually have to finish it

[west ingot]

Atleast it should be, you can check wiki

[sudden wadi]

the boss is quite easy, he drops things out of the sky you need to look out for and also he will put up a shield that you'll have to destroy some crystals to get passed the shield other then that you just sit there and hit him

[west ingot]

I mean all the stamps from his questline are good damage stamps

[atomic fable]

I'll see where I'm at and if the quest from my furthest character can get it using IT

[atomic fable]

Okay, it's from cross platform promotion

[sudden wadi]

the map, the crystals you have to destroy and the falling ice

[bronze moth]

my bubbles and stamps somewhat got a bit higher

[atomic fable]

I have 1.5k total stamp level

[bronze moth]

yeah I'm missing a few easy to get stamps

[atomic fable]

Do I prioritise that quest after carry capacity?

[bronze moth]

gonna get those tommorow i'm too lazy

[sudden wadi]

he has 20m health so its quite hard for you right now but it would be perferable to bring your squire since each one of its legs can take damage therfore the squires slash attack will hit it 4 times

[bronze moth]

i didn't even notice i got this stamp 😭

[eager sphinx]

My squire is A. Mining B. Behind all the way at sir stashes C. Way weaker than my barb rn

[sudden wadi]

thats fine

barb will still work

[eager sphinx]

Ye just not efficient it seems

[atomic fable]

I can also redo the quest on my es

[sudden wadi]

forging is best done with bao snake and wood plank

best bet for now yes

[sudden wadi]

technically yes its slower but rn its better to just get into w4 to get your elite classes and then your squire can easily go and clear all w3 really fast

this is why snakes

[atomic fable]

I can upgrade my carry capacity for my es, should I or do mman 1st

[cerulean meteor]

if skill mman, if not ES

is what ill say, unless that skill is chopping

[atomic fable]

It's the material capacity

[eager sphinx]

Yeah when I get to w4-

[cerulean meteor]

ES

[atomic fable]

Alright

[sudden wadi]

youll be there very soon dont worry

[cerulean meteor]

no need to do so on mman who doesnt need it

[eager sphinx]

I wish it was today T-T

[sudden wadi]

after snakes you fight speakers and after that is the boss

[eager sphinx]

T-T

[tepid dune]

Just from what read I am making w3 harder than it is my main character is lv 98 at snakes...

All my other ones at 77 to about 82

[sudden wadi]

boss

[sinful hinge]

This a good set up to get past wave 50?

[eager sphinx]

I just need to get there TvT

16-17k more till speakers

[atomic fable]

There we go, got the materials bag for my es to 2.4k 🙂

[tepid dune]

Is it worth rushing w4?
With only 6 characters.

[sleek stone]

sure

[sudden wadi]

thats fine

[sudden wadi]

not at bad place to be

[tepid dune]

I could go farther I just don't think I am ready for the boss

[sinful hinge]

Alr thanks

[eager sphinx]

I want candies T-T

I don't wanna wait any longer

[sudden wadi]

quests T-T

[eager sphinx]

My motivation says no

[sudden wadi]

fair

[sleek stone]

damn i almost clear all candy quest

im cooked

[sudden wadi]

if your able to put that prayer back on that allows giants to spawn and your able to kill said giant youll get some candies

[tepid dune]

I an doing 50k to 142k damage, 669 defense, 3.27k accuracy, 2237 hp

Do we think I can handle the boss?

[eager sphinx]

I can technically speaking

How much hp and damage do they gain?

[atomic fable]

I got the egg recipe!

is that good?

[sudden wadi]

i think 10x not 100% sure tho

[eager sphinx]

If it's 10x it can't be that bad-

It'll just be like 90 dmg-

[atomic fable]

Is egg a good one to level up?

[sudden wadi]

what egg?

[atomic fable]

the egg from the cooking

[sudden wadi]

oh yes lvl that up as much as you can

it gives cooking speed which means more egg!!

[atomic fable]

Alright

[eager sphinx]

Do I have to be active or can I still get candies from afk?

[sudden wadi]

active only

[atomic fable]

It's active only since giant mobs don't spawn afk

[eager sphinx]

.... I am beginning to be tempted on auto loot for 5 dollars

Leave it on over night and see how it goes-

Take squire from mining and make it farm candies

[atomic fable]

Is it a bit bad I'm kinda neglecting the lab on 3 characters?

[eager sphinx]

I feel dirty being a p2w instead of saving money for irl things- (Betrayed my F2P style)
So now I payed for auto loot should I just have it auto active with giants on while I sleep?

[atomic fable]

Do you guys think my es might hit level 100 1st?

[west ingot]

Lab lock until you reach killer brightside, it'll get easier once you get bubonic then you can slowly pull one out one by one

[atomic fable]

due to the active grinding

[west ingot]

Because remember if you have people in lab your prints also get doubled

[atomic fable]

That is true

right now I have 4 in the lab, the 3 that are out are maestro (Fishing), DK (In world 4, map 4) and my ES (active)

[west ingot]

If you've only bought auto loot it's still considered f2p but it's up to you, I don't think you'll get an insane plethora of candies but I've never giant farmed overnight before so I say give it a shot.

[west ingot]

Who are you pushing with?

[atomic fable]

I might do DK, it's easier with defence

and it'll allow me to active farm mob drops with es

[eager sphinx]

P2w is any in game purchases. But yeah idk how many candies I can get just any to speed up the process is fine

[west ingot]

True, you should try and get to killer brightside in the lab

[west ingot]

It's considered f2p on this game its basically called the playing the game fee, you NEED it to be able to play the game later on

[tepid dune]

From my experience each gaint give 2-3 candies per and mine only take 900 kills to spawn with an hourly kill rate of 2,354(at cryosnakes)

[west ingot]

Your hourly kill rate has nothing to do with your active kill rate btw

[atomic fable]

dk is a bit harder to active farm with when pushing

[tepid dune]

Good estimate of it

[atomic fable]

so using es for mob drop farming can help get everyone geared up

[sudden wadi]

almost everyone would consider auto loot to be the base price of idleon also if you afk on you barb and fight sheepies with your squire you might be done w3 tonight unless your going to bed really soon

fight sheepies for giants that is

[eager sphinx]

I'm doing it over at sheep since easier for my squire

[eager sphinx]

How did you know-

[eager sphinx]

Unfortunately so as I might black out-

[tepid dune]

Fair that's my main(barbarian)

[sudden wadi]

if you leave the game over night your capacity might not be big enough to last you 6 hours of killing and looting

[eager sphinx]

I just need candies right?

Filter stuff I don't need

[sudden wadi]

yup

[atomic fable]

I'm on the sheep map at the moment on world 3 because I need it for armour

[sudden wadi]

if you start it rn youll get your candys within maybe 20 mins

[eager sphinx]

Yep if I don't black out I have been staying awake for a long while.

[indigo stratus]

Got VMan unlocked! Time to send almost everyone back to divinity instead of killing bloodbones.

[eager sphinx]

Nice

[sudden wadi]

go to bed bud wake up ready to be in w4

[atomic fable]

Should I start considering preparing to do the dn requirements?

[sudden wadi]

not yet

[west ingot]

Time to active farm sheepies for giants and floofpoofs for dementia armor🧟‍♂️

[sudden wadi]

get more damage first

[atomic fable]

True for the mk?

[sudden wadi]

yes

[atomic fable]

I think my 1st priority on pre-prep is level 90 characters?

(for the best weapon tier I can reach)

[sudden wadi]

that would help

[eager sphinx]

Ye just been awake cuz I don't want to sleep. Also cuz I wanna be/talk with a certain friend

[atomic fable]

for level 90 ones, I have mman at level 90

Maybe my es can prepare the crafting stuff while I level up my characters 1 by 1?

[eager sphinx]

I put all smithing for my hunter

Need something crafted? Hunter
But now I am grinding smithing on everything with production but still

[atomic fable]

Alright

I was more talking about the mob material stuff

[sudden wadi]

I'm sure they'll want you to sleep as well plus you can always talk to them in the morning

[eager sphinx]

Yeah just wanted to say my entire crafting base is on a hunter cuz we'll I dunno, maybe cuz I can??

[eager sphinx]

They have a 12 hour difference in time TnT

[sudden wadi]

they should still be awake by the time you wake up

[eager sphinx]

School

[bronze moth]

i have to wait till tommorow to get to dedotated rams 😭

[eager sphinx]

(I should be active farming on squire rn-)

[eager sphinx]

What are those?

[sudden wadi]

(yes)

[sudden wadi]

w3 just above sir stache

[eager sphinx]

Oh from that high kill req?

[sudden wadi]

yup

[eager sphinx]

I see-

I am gonna active a squire for the first time

[bronze moth]

after that I need to wait even longer to get to bloodbones

[atomic fable]

I have 229 gems at the moment

[bronze moth]

then I need to wait EVEN LONGER to finally unlock equinox on my dk (rememember, *all this for 1 char 😭 *)

[sudden wadi]

250k kills to get to blood bones

btw you dont need to do that

[bronze moth]

oh

it isn't mandatory to get to equinox?

[sudden wadi]

you only need 1 char to get everyone there

[bronze moth]

thank god

[atomic fable]

So that guarantees 1m for dn if I get everyone past that map?

[sudden wadi]

i guess but vman shouldn't be your main priority rn

[atomic fable]

Alright

probably also because I'd not have many points on it either

[sudden wadi]

get more damage and mk then go for it

the more mk you have the easier

[atomic fable]

I might be able to go for it as early as Mid W4?

[bronze moth]

yeah

dedotated and bloodbones are close to mid w4 mobs

[atomic fable]

My giant mob chance is now 1 in 22.5k

[bronze moth]

after i unlock equinox gaining skilling levels are gonna be so much easier

[sudden wadi]

it goes up the more you kill

[bronze moth]

what are the eff requirements for equinox skilling?

[atomic fable]

so I think I might've maxed out for giant mobs?

[sudden wadi]

no there is no max

[atomic fable]

I'm talking like reasonable max

[sudden wadi]

i guess

[bronze moth]

oof

so i may not be able to get levels

[atomic fable]

I think fishing is the ONLY 1 you don't need efficiency for

to gain xp

[bronze moth]

oof yeah the efficiency requirements for equinox skilling are insane for w4 😭

[atomic fable]

equinox is probably closer to w5

in terms of skilling efficiency requirements?

[bronze moth]

yeah

[bleak sleet]

First tab gems, 50, second tab gems, 70
Third tab gems, 5
A bit underwhelming

[bronze moth]

at least i can do dream clouds which give some good bonuses ig

[west ingot]

I actually have never realised how many drops es can farm lol I've been avoiding getting dementia for everybody because of floofpoofs I've already made like 10 or 12k in 25minutes roughly

[atomic fable]

I've made about 5k since I started grinding the map

Even with only 116% mk

[west ingot]

That's a lot more than me lmfao

[atomic fable]

You must have higher dr than me

[west ingot]

Bro what I'm tweaking

[bronze moth]

i literally don't even have 2x dr

[atomic fable]

I only have 2x dr

[bronze moth]

i'm close tho ig

[west ingot]

I don't know what number was in my head when iw as looking at the stacks I've only made 3k lmao😂

[atomic fable]

Oh

[west ingot]

Drop rate or rarity or are they the same?

[atomic fable]

Each stack for me is about 2.4k

[bronze moth]

AHHH I WISH I HAD CANDY TO CANDY OUT EQUINOXXX

[west ingot]

Why is bro going to equinox

Your not gonna be able to do like anything in there

[bronze moth]

getting all chars to lvl 100

[atomic fable]

I realise when it's time for me to start the vman quest, I have to get my mman to level 150

[bronze moth]

and it would be useful midgame because I wouldn't have to manually unlock it

and then it's gonna be back to clammies

[bronze moth]

because I want to

[cold wraith]

no point in wasting candy on that

[atomic fable]

I'm likely going to reach level 100 on my es 1st

[cold wraith]

dont even think about equinox till mid/late w5

actually maybe a lil earlier like early w5

[atomic fable]

What about vman? when should I start thinking about going for it?

[calm vault]

the resource nodes from equinox can be pretty fantastic

But past that the dreams become too difficult for early game accounts

[west ingot]

Can't wait to get the chance for candy from claiming 8 hour afk gains

[bronze moth]

so should I either push to equinox or clammies?

[cold wraith]

mid w5 for vman

just push worlds

[calm vault]

[atomic fable]

That's later than ar recommends (early w5)

[calm vault]

clammies

[cold wraith]

well thats up to you i didnt get vman personally until late w5

[calm vault]

getting 100 on all your guys isn't like a "super bad idea" though

[atomic fable]

I see

[cold wraith]

candying for it kinda is

[calm vault]

if it doesnt hamper your pushing too much.

[atomic fable]

Today, I got my es from level 85 or 86 to 88

[cold wraith]

i can get behind candying to the next world tho

[bronze moth]

it'll take about 70-80 hrs to get to octodars at the kph i'm at rn

[atomic fable]

from just girnding monster drops

[calm vault]

then there's a problem, can we see your afk screen?

[bronze moth]

this is with only one speed potion

i get 2 food slots for lasting longer when pushing

but since I have auto food consumption i could probably fit in 2

[calm vault]

Do you have this lit up in lab at least?

[cold wraith]

do nOT spend 80 hours to push their

that means youll be spending 100+ on the next two maps

[bronze moth]

yeah

[west ingot]

What else he gonna do lmfak

[calm vault]

what class are you using, and whats his damage?

[cold wraith]

1m dmg for troll

[west ingot]

Highest kph I've seen for myself in this area wasn't even above 3k kph

[cold wraith]

no point in spending candies when you cant beat the boss

[west ingot]

Why is 1mil needed?

[sudden wadi]

boss has 80m health

[west ingot]

Can he heal or something?

[sudden wadi]

yup

[west ingot]

Guess my dk is never gonna beat the boss

[bronze moth]

i can reach 1 mil on crit hits

[calm vault]

are you using this by chance?

[bronze moth]

not at all, but I am using balance of pain prayer

for the extra accuracy for 1.5x dmg bonus

[calm vault]

it's been so long since Ive pushed w4 im wracking my brain on what the deal is

[bronze moth]

but 2x accuracy for clammies (I have 26k acc) might be overkill

[sudden wadi]

its not

[bronze moth]

agh i mean this prayer

[cold wraith]

sheet dmg 1m

book talents if you havent

[calm vault]

these are pretty hefty damage boosts

[west ingot]

How much can he heal? Because I feel like if he has 80mil health, the slash attack and moves from dk should kill it in like under 2 or 3 minutes no?

[cold wraith]

no

[calm vault]

he will heal a lot

if you mess up his games

[cold wraith]

the way troll boss works is you have to do these little tasks of his

if you win you get to hit him ONCE

[calm vault]

you only get a very small window to deal damage as well

[cold wraith]

or twice depending on skills

[west ingot]

Bruh

[calm vault]

like twice to three times

[cold wraith]

there are some rng tasks

like a stupid coin flip and going up a rope

[bronze moth]

yeah my dmg went WAY UP

[west ingot]

Can he even kill you?

[cold wraith]

you lose he just heals

its possible to do with less dmg but its just a pain

[west ingot]

Bruh so he's just a rage boss😂

[rich tulip]

How do you get more slots for pet fighting

[cold wraith]

arena

[bronze moth]

yeah I have enforced sword so that may be the problem

I need 2 more smithing levels for ice hammer

[cold wraith]

have you done clickers

[bronze moth]

yes

it's probably ice hammer tho

[west ingot]

:p

[cold wraith]

ice hammer isnt going to boost you damage as much as you are thinking

[bronze moth]

yo ur catching up

[calm vault]

can you post your tab 1 talents

[sudden wadi]

you do more damage then me

[cold wraith]

ok no get less points into afk and more into meat shank

[bronze moth]

by less how much less?

[calm vault]

it DRs pretty hard past 50, but if you're pushing actively you dont need points in it at all. I would also push for less points in wisdom

[west ingot]

I should probably respec and book gilded sword and axe lmao

[iron jay]

Now you can ignore afk gain talent. It's has low scaling in higher lvl

[bronze moth]

got it

[cold wraith]

you also are active pushing it

[cold wraith]

youre forgetting db

[calm vault]

?

[cold wraith]

people are pushing past 60

[calm vault]

again not sure what you're saying

[cold wraith]

ah i thought you meant pushing dr is hard past 50

[calm vault]

ahhh lmao

[cold wraith]

read it too fast

[calm vault]

DR = diminishing returns, not drop rate in this sense my b

[cold wraith]

yea i know js skimmed your msg

ive been glancing at discord while doing sum else

[sudden wadi]

my life rn

[rich tulip]

this is so real

[bronze moth]

my kills went down

[calm vault]

you have less afk gain rate

[west ingot]

Well that was actually an extremely good respec on my part

[bronze moth]

it's 1.8k but my dmg went up

[calm vault]

of course your listed afk kills are going to go down

[bronze moth]

i usually grind portals afk

[calm vault]

(afk kills per hour is not representative of active kills per hour)

[west ingot]

I would honestly recommend turning away from that

It'll get orb kills started and it's just better

[atomic fable]

The reason I'm afk on the dk is because I'm active on es rn

[bronze moth]

so active push from now own?

[atomic fable]

for the monster drops

[west ingot]

I mean when your able to

[sleek stone]

what island are good?

[bronze moth]

yeah I wanted those afk gains bcuz i wanted grinding afk be kinda close to grinding active

[sleek stone]

dang what stage

[bronze moth]

are there any other sources of afk gains that don't diminish?

[calm vault]

for island expeditions, as in which to unlock first?

[sleek stone]

yes

[west ingot]

12 hours until ALL my 60 hour frog traps are done :p

[west ingot]

W4 biggole worms

[dusty apex]

#newplayer-chat-w1🍀w2⏳ message

[calm vault]

garbage -> shimmer -> Seasalt/Crystal -> rando -> fractal

[bronze moth]

if there is, can someone tell me?

[sleek stone]

okay

[calm vault]

few and far between at your level

Roo has some afk gain rate though

[bronze moth]

yeah I have roo at fractal 2 (or 3 idk)

[atomic fable]

This is my afk gain rates (This character has no talent points placed on afk gains except 1)

[bronze moth]

and I didn't lose that much kph anyway

[sleek stone]

damn i just open island

[bronze moth]

i mean what are they?

[sleek stone]

far at w4 and just open it

[calm vault]

chaotic amarok card, boop card, star signs,

[atomic fable]

Should I respect my es talents?

for star talents (I have 1)

[calm vault]

also post your star talents

[atomic fable]

if I do respect, I could remove all 104 points from the afk gain rate boost

[sleek stone]

ok now my bloaches just hit 150

slowly but surely fixing it

[atomic fable]

You guys think it's worth it to respec star talents to remove the afk gain boost since it's becoming a more active class?

[calm vault]

do not have 50 points in the Note talent (it's capped at your highest characer's level, which is likely 125, and therefore wont give any benefit past 12 points), the Hourglass talent gives afk gain rate, the far right talent is crucial for afk gains, your second star talent tab is important

[calm vault]

I wouldnt worry about it too much

[bronze moth]

got it should I reset

[calm vault]

star talent reset potions can be sparse for some people at your progression; If you have the resources to do it, then yes

[atomic fable]

Should I reset in my position due to the 50 points? (My highest is level 92)

which could also allow me to not put any onto afk gains (it's my damage setup)

[calm vault]

again I wouldnt worry about it. Your star talents arent that messed up and you dont have other places that are much better than afk gains

[atomic fable]

Alright

Once I obtain more books, then reset?

[bronze moth]

yeah I'm almost back to my normal afk gains kph with higher dmg

[calm vault]

(again, read this talent carefully. It caps at +50. So you should only have 50 points in it if you have a level 500 character)

[atomic fable]

yeah, that's the only spot I badly messed up

[calm vault]

ok great now respec your normal talents back into afk gain rate

[bronze moth]

bru

[atomic fable]

The only 2 I have on tab 3 is ubercharge health and spice spillage

[calm vault]

(Jk i still wouldnt advise afk pushing at 2k kills per hour, find something else to do with the character to improve his damage)

[bronze moth]

yeah hmm

[calm vault]

you didnt badly mess up trust me

[atomic fable]

Alright

Oh, wait, I didn't mess up, sorry

[calm vault]

spice spillage is good for 20 points max, and honestly I would only worry about getting it to 20 points on your skilling/lab jail presets