#midgame-chat-w3🧊w4🔮

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atomic fable
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okay, it might take a while before I can get the recipe

sudden wadi
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yup

atomic fable
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I'm dealing with a 1/17 drop here

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and 1 attempt per hour

eager sphinx
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And final stats show I probably didnt do as good as yall did, but its better than earlier

edgy leaf
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What's the best class for 10th char

hollow hedge
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depends what are your other 9 classes are

edgy leaf
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I have every class (including vman) 2dk and 2 bubo

hollow hedge
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why 2 bubo?

sudden wadi
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well it would have been better if you had two es but thats fine

edgy leaf
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I messed up clicking

west ingot
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Beuh

atomic fable
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Wait, 2 es is better?

edgy leaf
west ingot
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Yep

hollow hedge
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yes

cold wraith
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better than two bubo or two bm

sudden wadi
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2dk 2es 1 everything else

atomic fable
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That could maybe be my 8th and 9th character?

edgy leaf
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So whats the best class for 10 char?

sudden wadi
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that leaves 1 extra

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either SB or DB

cold wraith
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not 3 dk

west ingot
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I think I'm honestly throwing my account at this point everyone's skilling because pushing is slow even though I should just focus on pushing😔

mighty canyon
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anyone farming shipies?

cold wraith
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honestly you could js leave 10th blank until lava puts out all the master classes

west ingot
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Or atleast make it beginner

edgy leaf
atomic fable
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I think I now know what to make my 8th and 9th character: Probably a 2nd dk, then 2nd es?

west ingot
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Well my account is rushed this cupcake dude makes me wanna cry

cold wraith
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doesnt matter if your acc is rushed you can always catch up

cold wraith
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but best bet is to keep pushing worlds

west ingot
atomic fable
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I have 4/6 elite classes atm

west ingot
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I'm actually gonna incinerate you

atomic fable
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;-;

eager sphinx
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I just wanna be in w4 already lol. Plus isnt the boss gonna take a while to kill?

sudden wadi
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i dont see you in here much

edgy leaf
sudden wadi
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it maybe but i dont deem it worth it

atomic fable
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Because I've been grinding cards for a while, I've been able to build this stat up nicely

sudden wadi
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theres a 100% chance that another class will be better then DB

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and sb being one is pretty high

atomic fable
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There's an achievement for reaching 1m with the portal

west ingot
sudden wadi
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not what i mean

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cupcake is always here

eager sphinx
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What should I save up my gems for in world 3 like anything useful I should save up for?

sudden wadi
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tbh idk if they sleep or just sleeps less then i do

eager sphinx
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Already have-

sudden wadi
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extra printer slots

eager sphinx
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K

west ingot
sudden wadi
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its also not the best idea to compare yourself to them

atomic fable
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I just progress slow in terms of worlds

sudden wadi
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when did you start playing this game? @west ingot

west ingot
sudden wadi
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ok lets say a month

west ingot
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It took me a good week to remember everything but still think my shit should be this bad

sudden wadi
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cupcake when did you start playing?

atomic fable
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It was in 2023, but took a break for a while, came back either late 2024 or so

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That's why my dk's mining level is 64

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and also why I have 10m on wode board and almost 10m on glublin on dn

sudden wadi
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how long ago from the break?

atomic fable
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I think it was like over a year?

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I don't remember exactly

sudden wadi
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no no like when did you start playing again?

atomic fable
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Oh

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I think it was late 2024

sudden wadi
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3 months ago?

atomic fable
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I'd say maybe 1 or at most 2

eager sphinx
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Yknow now that I think about it I was one lucky alchemist to get the bubble chance to 8.8% on a shaman. When I get world 4 how much of a boost will I get for upgrading previous buffs like alchemy and such?

sudden wadi
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almost everything goes back to alchemy

atomic fable
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I kinda wonder if I can unlock the equinox early with my es

sudden wadi
eager sphinx
sudden wadi
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same thing with stamps

atomic fable
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I think I was in w3 when I came back from that long break

sudden wadi
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which start in w1

eager sphinx
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Yeah which I might need to do better with

sudden wadi
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@west ingot it took you 1 month to get from w2-4 not bad

eager sphinx
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All my combat stamps

sudden wadi
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cupcake took 2 month to get from w3-4

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i can see why their damage is a lot higher

west ingot
sudden wadi
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not really

eager sphinx
west ingot
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With how his prints are he's gonna be hitting multikill from alchemy and stamps and pass me 😂

sudden wadi
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you could easily beat them in everything if you rushed

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but there taking there time to get everything

atomic fable
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Technically, you have more potential in buffs and overtake my stats

sudden wadi
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its two sides of the same coin becuase both have to do everything

west ingot
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Rushing is mad slow though, like I'm only halfway through w4 with only 2k- kph on portals with 150k

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At the rate I'm going "rushing" through the rest of w4 will take a month maybe 2 weeks

atomic fable
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I inventory capped...

eager sphinx
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Oof

sleek stone
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Damn Giant farmin

sudden wadi
eager sphinx
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Hmmm can I learn more of world 4 things like cooking and such since if done right I can get there in a few days

sudden wadi
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stamps, alchemy, gear, star signs, foods

sleek stone
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If you feel overwhelm

sudden wadi
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quests are the best for farming consistent candy

sleek stone
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Or farm some giant

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Yeah tho

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Those coloseum candy

west ingot
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Tbh candy won't cut it 75 hours for one portal?

sleek stone
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W3 main quest

west ingot
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That's a fuck ton of candy

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Then times that by like 7 or so?

atomic fable
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Gave my es an upgraded staff

west ingot
atomic fable
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Not enough red salts

west ingot
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Really easy to make

sleek stone
atomic fable
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I'm pretty sure I have everything but red salts and if I grab it early, I have to wait days for the rank up again

sleek stone
atomic fable
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which will just set me back more

sinful bolt
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is it worth it to use a rubifier on genie card, cba to farm 9k cards on it

sleek stone
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Yeah not worth it

icy carbon
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did deathnote reset some of yalls kills?

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or take some away?

atomic fable
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Umm... I think I can nearly push to w5... with shrine boosts, I hit 1m

sinful bolt
sleek stone
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Go push

icy carbon
sinful bolt
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that's why

sudden wadi
# eager sphinx Hmmm can I learn more of world 4 things like cooking and such since if done righ...

everything in w4 is slow and takes time, lab makes you sit in it for probably 2-4 weeks straight before you can take some of your guys out of it. breeding is a game that you make pets and fight them agenst other pets, the main purpose of breeding is for spices these spices are used in the cooking skill which does its own thing without you having to touch it but it gives you buffs and you combine the spices to make new foods for new buffs

icy carbon
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didnt realize it reset deathnote.

sinful bolt
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it sets vman kills to 2m on speedrun start iirc

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so you probably shouldn't rack up kills on it

sudden wadi
atomic fable
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Okay, good to know- wait

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aside from defence & accuracy, my es is ready for w5?

eager sphinx
atomic fable
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Without shrines, it's almost 750k max damage

sudden wadi
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i dont think you can use shrines in a boss fight

atomic fable
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Okay, so I should use the 750k one as a guide

sudden wadi
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tbh idk becuase i never tried

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so maybe dont listen to me

atomic fable
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just in case, I'll track the non-shrine damage

sudden wadi
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also the boss isnt like any other boss you've ever fought

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its not just a dodge untill dead like amarok

atomic fable
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So there's probably some heal mechanics in play

sudden wadi
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you have to do challenges to kill the boss

atomic fable
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Ooh

sudden wadi
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if you fail the challenge he heals

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if you win you get to hit him once

atomic fable
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So with a potential 1m, I have to clear 80 challenges in a row to win

sudden wadi
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yup

atomic fable
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yeah, I might want to prepare more 1st before going for the push

sudden wadi
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also he dosent just heal 1m

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i think its alot more

sinful bolt
atomic fable
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true

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Okay, world 3 cards might be hard to grind atm

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I do reach mk, but it's less than 100%

eager sphinx
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Me being confused what this is for lol

atomic fable
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Am I doing the right idea btw with farming some cards that help dr, card% and accuracy / defence?

sudden wadi
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points at the top left

atomic fable
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I think some good preparations for world 4 for me could be to increase my accuracy and defence card levels, and maybe dementia armour or better

eager sphinx
west ingot
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Yay 75 more hours until I get out of tremor wurms

sudden wadi
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huh?

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you mean biggole wurm?

west ingot
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Yeah that's what I meant oops

sudden wadi
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tremor is w5

atomic fable
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I might only get penguin to 1*

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since that's where my es stops at map progression wise (in w3)

west ingot
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I should've pushed with es probably would've been faster tbh

atomic fable
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I might be able to push w4 somewhat soon - my es has 750k max damage

west ingot
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You haven't started yet??

atomic fable
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only got to elite classes with es

west ingot
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Oh I forgot you don't have all elites yet

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Well I'm lab locking again and pushing if it's gonna take me an average of 3-4 days per portal with 4 more portals it's gonna take me a good minute to get there if I afk, I might active time to time but it doesn't seem very efficient

eager sphinx
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Oh cool a stamp

atomic fable
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Nice, that's ||base mining efficiency||

west ingot
rancid harness
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What is the class build these days? Still 2 SB, 2 DK, 2 ES and 1 of the others?

night stag
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what is shrapshell??

west ingot
atomic fable
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idk if it'd be crazy to have vman before w5

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like late w4

sudden wadi
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to wait for master classes and see whats the best to pick from there

rancid harness
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Right now the only double I have is DK

rancid harness
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Siege Breaker

sudden wadi
atomic fable
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Is it maybe worth it since I want more acc and def to focus on the w3 card set?

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to at least 1*

sleek stone
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Damn i just reach 15m crit dmg

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Maybe if ES hwormhole can push portal it would be good

sudden wadi
rancid harness
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SB evolves from ranger

eager sphinx
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I see

rancid harness
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Archer w/e

eager sphinx
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Evo of the bowman?

sleek stone
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Time to get my sb now

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Have enough candy to push it

atomic fable
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I might save my last 2 elite classes

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until I have enough time candy to push it immediatley

sleek stone
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Yeah farm some candy

west ingot
atomic fable
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You should be able to unlock the 8th character I believe by w4

rancid harness
sleek stone
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I get dk 7th

rancid harness
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You can get so many boosts by the time you get to late w4/early w5 that getting to the elite classes is simple

sudden wadi
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most people go vman 7 dk 8 but if you do it the other way thats fine too

atomic fable
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Okay, penguin has a stamp to get

sleek stone
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Yeah need time to fix but its okay not that hard to get 8th class

west ingot
atomic fable
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I might actually try to get my 8th character and vman before fully moving to w5

sudden wadi
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no

sleek stone
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No

atomic fable
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you saying no to me or?

sleek stone
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Go get asap tho

west ingot
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Who

sudden wadi
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you

sleek stone
west ingot
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Oh so get him 8th

sleek stone
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Yes

west ingot
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Oops

atomic fable
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Yes, a maestro is very good skilling support

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7th or 8th is the sweet spot I believe

sudden wadi
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its one of the reasons cupcake has a higher print then you

sleek stone
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If get dk alresdy you got 2 boosting on consturction

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Same as me

west ingot
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But don't you have to get him higher skill levels to even boost anything

atomic fable
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Actually, it probably isn't, I only have him highest skill level on trapping and worship

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once I move him to fishing (Might time candy it), it'll be 3/6

west ingot
sudden wadi
atomic fable
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Got penguin to 1*

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Ooh, that isn't the case for fishing prints

sudden wadi
atomic fable
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nor the chopping ones

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and neither the mining ones (all my highest efficiency ones are higher level than my maestro)

west ingot
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Yeah his chopping prints are just fucking on Crack

atomic fable
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That's why I mentioned it's 1 potential way to improve my prints further

sudden wadi
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well maybe im wrong about that but either way mman is very useful for prints

atomic fable
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Should I actually maybe use time candies to finish off maestro's fishing level to 35?

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so that my maestro is best at fishing level wise

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Oh, a crystal spawn in w3, nice

sudden wadi
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but its better to keep it for pushing

atomic fable
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Alright

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actually, should I have it afk fishing rn?

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I kept it in the lab all day lol

sudden wadi
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or mob drops when needed for a new piece of gear

sleek stone
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Damn if i get mman it wouldnt reach my mining level higher

west ingot
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Is mman best for farming mod drops?

atomic fable
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I'm not sure about mman, but vman is probably the best mob drop prints in the game

sleek stone
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Since my mining level are the highest that could be reach normally

atomic fable
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I have some small ones I can use

sleek stone
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Afking mining 2 years just basically get the level higher

sudden wadi
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i would use those on trapping and worship (yes i know your already higher lvl but it will help)

atomic fable
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Alright, I'll consider it 🙂

sudden wadi
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lol

atomic fable
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xD

sudden wadi
atomic fable
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anyway, fair point, I'll do that the next time I switch to maestro

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for prints, I think vman is the best

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but for active farming, I'm pretty sure it's es

sleek stone
atomic fable
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Idk why I'm trying to unlock w3 portals on my es lol

sleek stone
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Crystal, cards, mob drop, rare item

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Damn so much on es

atomic fable
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When it comes to bosses, I have heard mman is best for card farming bosses

sleek stone
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Yess

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Vman is the best

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On bosses

west ingot
sleek stone
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Yes

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So you need autoloot or just take it

atomic fable
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wait, does wormhole not count to portal requirements?

sleek stone
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Yes

atomic fable
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oh that's probably why it's taking longer than I expected

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so it counts to dn, but not portals?

sleek stone
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Yes

atomic fable
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Okay, that makes more sense now

true hamlet
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Resampling today probably

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Maybe work towards vial prints too?

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Just unlocked skill mastery and leveled up skills so should be pretty decent prints

sleek stone
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Damn im gonna stuck at mining sample

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When i get vman

true hamlet
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Why?

sleek stone
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Lv 57 is just too high

atomic fable
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I'm worse: my DK is level 64 mining

true hamlet
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I sat my vman on void for 6 days to outlevel my dk hahaha

sleek stone
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Dwmn

west ingot
sleek stone
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Maybe i should stop at that lvl

sleek stone
west ingot
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Oh yeah I'm selling my skills are dick compared to yalld

true hamlet
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I feel that you shouldn't level your skills too high so vman stands a chance. It's not like you can use the resources for anything by clogging up your inventory

sleek stone
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No

atomic fable
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Do you think I probably can't fix mining or chopping until w5?

sleek stone
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Thats the result of afk farming 2 years on copper

sleek stone
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Ive played this game before!!!!

west ingot
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Still I dont even have void unlocked I'm at mining 39

atomic fable
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I can mine up to starfire I think

true hamlet
atomic fable
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with the active pickaxe ability

forest portal
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isnt void 35?

west ingot
atomic fable
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2nd place is level 53

forest portal
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oh only one lvl left

west ingot
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My prints could also suck due to the fact I haven't gotten a single dementia tool yet😂

sleek stone
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Mine yet

west ingot
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And I've been doing chopping prints with a gold axe

atomic fable
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Did I mess up my skilling levels...

forest portal
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l think l wasted all my candy on lvl skills for better equipment

sleek stone
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No dimentia tool

glacial turtle
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anyone have a pic of the last mob of w4 i need to see the drop rate for the boss key

forest portal
sleek stone
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Not that hard

atomic fable
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1/15k odds, dang

glacial turtle
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oh 15000 i miss read the dude at the end thought he said 150000

forest portal
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lol

sleek stone
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Goodluck at w5

forest portal
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l dont think tools really make a big diff in printing tho

west ingot
glacial turtle
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they die so slow

atomic fable
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Okay, 20m prior to the boss...

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yeah, I might want more stats before pushing

glacial turtle
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i got alot of stats from pushing you get buttloads of exp

sleek stone
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Damn

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The afking

versed geode
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Bro I was just playing pet arena with high performance on and my game crashed.

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It don't fully work

sleek stone
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Maybe that help

forest portal
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u got to turn off baundam at like 6 to 4k when your game starts to lag

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damn he pushing on bb

sleek stone
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Yeah tho

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Sleeper build

versed geode
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I just had a bone guy left and it crashed

west ingot
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I'm wondering what I'm doing wrong on my account ill find out some day lmao

sleek stone
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Afk all they way

versed geode
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I had badumdum at like 14 from looter

atomic fable
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So, for my maestro to be better at the rest of the skills, I have to get the maestro to these levels

Fishing: 35
Mining & Chopping: 65
Catching: 50

forest portal
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oh u using phone right?

glacial turtle
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@west ingotdo you have a information account that you can post

versed geode
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Yea I'm on mobile

sleek stone
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Idleon efficiency go check

forest portal
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thats prob why

sleek stone
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Just fix some thing slowly

forest portal
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na rush to w5 then div till goat god then lab grind

sleek stone
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Mine also try to fix it

sleek stone
west ingot
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Well my dk has 500k damage with refinery accuracy buff lmao

sleek stone
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500k max?

atomic fable
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I think that's now similar to me

sleek stone
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If yes then same

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Dk really low on dmg

forest portal
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did u guys equip strengh pots?

atomic fable
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My es is 750k max damage with potions

sleek stone
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Yes

west ingot
forest portal
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and speed?

atomic fable
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I'm using the w3 and w2 potions for strength

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since w4 is expensive for me

sleek stone
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But i manage to get to 600k

west ingot
sleek stone
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1 golden food

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Skewer help

wintry burrow
atomic fable
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Do you guys think I cannot fix chopping or mining for a long while?

sleek stone
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Do your daily quest on picnic basket

forest portal
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strenght pots shd give more damage then skewers l think

sleek stone
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Yeah do other things

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Sadly wiki off to see that

west ingot
sleek stone
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Okay time to get my sb and DK 2 now

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Goess brrr

atomic fable
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I can get a new stamp tomorrow 😄

forest portal
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what stamp?

glacial turtle
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also if you have dk you can do the ice pig quest on w3 to kill all the mobs he gives a damage stamp

atomic fable
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I do have dk, what do I need to do for that?

forest portal
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clear cro snake of first then clear bunch of w3 mobs including deotread ram

atomic fable
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Oh, if it requires rams, I can't do it yet

forest portal
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but that is only the last one

sinful mirage
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does the pet power matter for breeder gene pets in the fenceyard on breedability speed?

glacial turtle
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i think so my 400 power squirll leveled that faster than my 100 power stuf did

atomic fable
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So, what does quest 2 require?

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There's 3 for the ice pig

bronze moth
sinful mirage
glacial turtle
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most likely

atomic fable
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Drone, what mobs are required in the time limit for quest 2?

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I will have to unlock the rams for the 3rd one

glacial turtle
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the cyro snakes and the two maps till the boss

forest portal
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last 3 maps

atomic fable
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Okay

bronze moth
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bro i need 2 more mining levels to finish up maestro's mining lvl requirement, and 17k more kills until i can reach clammies

true hamlet
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Dang, doubled my log print in 1 day

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Half a mil now

atomic fable
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Got it

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with over 2 minutes to spare

true hamlet
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Oh that pig's thing?

atomic fable
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I'll not bother starting quest 3 because I need the rams unlocked in w3

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Yes

true hamlet
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Yeah, you could do it when you feel like pushing for equinox

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Equinox can really up your fishing levels

atomic fable
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I can maybe go for equinox maybe when I go for vman

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Since I have to get 1m on dn anyway on all of w3

true hamlet
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Yeah for sure, pribably even earlier though

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1M on bloodbone takes quite a while

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Small map and high health

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So low kph and low mk

atomic fable
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I could go for equinox at all elite classes unlocked / Mid w4

sleek stone
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Op hat

sleek stone
bronze moth
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thw wiki is buggy asf

sleek stone
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Yeah wiki we need you

glacial turtle
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@bronze moth mine just 404s on a black sceen

atomic fable
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anyway, should I go for the easier quests on dk?

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start to do some cleanup

bronze moth
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some pages are working, but the others are either locale errors or just bad gateway (502)

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i'm close to the rift guy

true hamlet
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Nobi gives 2x and arctis allows you to connect to lab remotely for another 2x from killer brightside

glacial turtle
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@atomic fablehow deep in to w4 are you

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map wise'

atomic fable
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Only up to elite class unlocks

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Which by auto review is early w4 still

glacial turtle
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your gonna want to start haveing your pusher work at that while you sleep

true hamlet
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Because no point unlocking equinox too early when you can't complete some dreams

atomic fable
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1 dream ik is character level 100

true hamlet
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Yeah that's about it when it comes to dreams that are free giveaways hahaha

glacial turtle
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@atomic fable i used easily a 100plus hours in candy to cut down on the grind and it still took a few days

atomic fable
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ik I don't have enough accuracy on either dk or es

bronze moth
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should I unlock equinox (my dk is my farthest pusher at biggole worms, others are all at least at demon genies (except jman))

west ingot
atomic fable
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So I've resorted to plan b - Card farming

true hamlet
glacial turtle
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@atomic fablemake some lower teir tools and put there acc stat on them

bronze moth
glacial turtle
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@forest portalno bright side even the boss keys has to be farmed thats were im stuck at right now 1 in 15000 but the mobs are healthy

true hamlet
atomic fable
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when it says all characters

bronze moth
atomic fable
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does that mean all 10 or all current?

bronze moth
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auto food consumption is saving me rn 😭

west ingot
rustic elbow
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Is it worth to get everyone cooking to get this rotations lab upgrades (cooking speed & accuracy chip)? They seem really valuable

glacial turtle
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clammies goes a bit faster theres so many of them your kph goes up

bronze moth
west ingot
sudden wadi
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@eager sphinx if you ever need help feel free to @ me

eager sphinx
bronze moth
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bro the bubble chances are killing me rn

forest portal
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what is it?

bronze moth
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i'm grinding my strength and agi cauldrons with like 18% and 22% chance and I got like 5 chances and I still can't get it 😭

eager sphinx
#

I should probably join a high leveled guild instead of starting my own-

west ingot
forest portal
#

pls tell me u do it with bubo

bronze moth
proven river
#

are there any construction grid layout example?

glacial turtle
#

@rustic elbow if you can, do you have the jewels to buy the cooking speed one you can only get 1 daily at the shop

west ingot
bronze moth
#

i booked my bubble breakthrough talent to 112

stable parcel
#

Does AGL affect the XP you get from trapping? IE" From the XP only traps

true hamlet
#

It's going to be sub 1

forest portal
#

yup😢

glacial turtle
#

@proven river focus bounes exp first your charaters give more stats than your cogs will

bronze moth
#

bro the cheaper bubble coupon is OP

rustic elbow
forest portal
atomic fable
#

YES!!! I finally got nblb with 5 characters! Is this finally the right time to free my maestro?

forest portal
#

work to get bright side now with 5 people

bronze moth
forest portal
#

rip

forest portal
glacial turtle
#

@atomic fabledid you kill the w2 boss thats an hour glass

atomic fable
#

for the skilling exp reasons

bronze moth
forest portal
#

lol

atomic fable
#

I'm not even close to bright side

bronze moth
true hamlet
#

Draw a straight line and then use different characters at different points to lower the deviation as much as possible

bronze moth
#

have u got ur bubo yet?

atomic fable
#

I have

#

Should I try respecting the tree and put all to line width?

#

if that's not enough, then it's clear I need levels?

glacial turtle
#

this man can help too

bronze moth
#

i just split my points between the lab xp and the line width on my skilling preset

atomic fable
#

Oh

#

I don't have any on the line width

#

should I reset the talents and prioritise line width > exp early on?

bronze moth
#

when I get my mman back in lab (he's currently a jman) i'll be able to get shrine world tour 2sunglasses

ebon stratus
#

are these two map locations also mob areas? last two in w3
wiki aint wiki-ing Grumblo_disappointed

glacial turtle
#

best friends

atomic fable
#

It might be the only chance I have to try to reach bright side sooner

glacial turtle
#

@ebon stratus yes but there for latter game stuff

atomic fable
#

the problem is, even if I do reach bright side, I'm losing nblb and refinery speed

glacial turtle
#

aka w5

atomic fable
#

and I can't gain orange salts at all right now

true hamlet
glacial turtle
#

@atomic fable just focus on leveling your lab people for now theyll get longer lines

ebon stratus
#

ah alright thanks guys Grumblo_Pray

bronze moth
atomic fable
#

Alright

true hamlet
#

If you prepped a little more, you couldv'e cleared w4 in a few days

forest portal
#

then dont do it and just wait till u can get all of them before pushing

atomic fable
#

I'm still only a few days into w4

glacial turtle
#

@true hamlet sure a few days sure

atomic fable
#

Okay, I can get refinery speed with 4 characters now

true hamlet
bronze moth
#

please don't laugh guys 😭

forest portal
#

what how

glacial turtle
#

@true hamlet no

bronze moth
#

wait

true hamlet
bronze moth
#

those are w3 bubbles

forest portal
#

one bubble unlock for green

bronze moth
#

oh wait

true hamlet
#

They pretty good bubbles

forest portal
#

ohhh icic l thought its overall bubbles

true hamlet
#

dmg% bubbles and construction bubbles

zenith hare
#

slowly going up

bronze moth
#

i would say I might be a bit close

atomic fable
#

You think lab will be a bit easier to manage once I get the 8th character?

bronze moth
#

usualy I wait a few days before trying new bubbles so I can get more chances to get a new one

forest portal
zenith hare
#

so far only have missed ab 36 hours of active time this week

#

thats its true kill rate, ofc starting at 24 hours

#

2 days till weekly reset too

glacial turtle
#

ive got a KEY

#

alright how hard is the troll tho

forest portal
zenith hare
#

its a laptop :3

forest portal
zenith hare
atomic fable
#

yeah, I need more lab levels I think

#

and I've kept my characters in lab mostly since day 1 w4

glacial turtle
#

ah any insta kill stuf

west ingot
#

I need to check my ie it's been a minute

forest portal
#

for the coin filp u just climb

bronze moth
#

7-8 more hours till clammiess

forest portal
glacial turtle
#

lets do this

west ingot
#

Those 24 hour candies looking at me nicely

bronze moth
west ingot
bronze moth
#

why the hell do they make something so cheap with a level req this high

west ingot
#

Because mini boss lots of gems and candy

#

Can either of your archers make it?

sudden wadi
#

hp

#

it has 12.5m hp

forest portal
#

cuz its going to one shot u

sudden wadi
#

that too

forest portal
#

most likely

sudden wadi
#

20k damage

bronze moth
#

i have 1k def so i may not be cooked

sudden wadi
#

...

bronze moth
forest portal
#

below 20k and u cooked

bronze moth
#

yeah I'm cooked

#

4k

sturdy totem
#

You using archers to push w4?

bronze moth
#

nope

#

dk

forest portal
#

nice

sturdy totem
#

aw yea

sudden wadi
#

never push with archer of any kind

west ingot
#

The dipalidated mush can't hit you when you just basic auto it it's out of reach

#

Slush*

sturdy totem
#

Yeah just don't walk on slush and you can best it at 1 hp 0 def

west ingot
#

Fuck slush*

forest portal
#

yea unless your def is good

#

oh mush

west ingot
#

It does like 1k damage when I had like 600 defence the slush

sturdy totem
#

Mush will be dangerous but the attacks are very telegraphed

#

just dodge em

west ingot
#

Mush doesn't do damage for shit😭

sturdy totem
#

When u have poor def and are going on an underleveled archer it do

forest portal
#

yea

atomic fable
#

is there a reason for me to keep tier 1 stones?

#

at this point in the game (w4 map progression)

sturdy totem
#

Only the mysterious ones

#

For a future stamp

atomic fable
#

Okay, so I can freely sell the other ones?

#

except the current worlds stones

sturdy totem
#

Imo yes unless there's a secret w6 thing

atomic fable
#

Alright

sturdy totem
#

But even then if there is one they'll be easier to refarm by then

atomic fable
#

I'll only keep the event stones and the tier 3 ones if I've not bought tier 4's yet

#

and the mystory ones (I did sell all of them earlier prior to knowing there's a stamp to them, which is my bad)

uneven obsidian
#

the basic mystery stone are easy to farm since at some point you dk will live at beans

atomic fable
#

yeah, I also did the t2's too which is a bit of a my bad moment

#

but tbf, I didn't know there's a later stamp that needs it

glacial turtle
#

i just wanted some early exp on w5 but it spawned not 1 not 2 but 3 CRSYTAL MOBS

atomic fable
#

Dang

#

Is it worth upgrading this talent?

#

it isn't?

uneven obsidian
#

generly isnt since a lot of the class exp source are additive

glacial turtle
#

@atomic fablena just buy w4 exp pots

uneven obsidian
#

and GT exist

atomic fable
#

Alright

uneven obsidian
#

also -_-

atomic fable
#

okay, then I messed up a bit on 1 or 2 characters

uneven obsidian
#

crafting star talent reset potion isnt all that hard

atomic fable
#

true, just tedious

#

it might be worth it for me to reset all my characters star talents later

#

as I unlock new ones

uneven obsidian
#

until you can crystal farm yeah, afterward not so much

atomic fable
#

I unlocked garlic bread

#

from cooking

sturdy totem
atomic fable
#

I unlocked vip talents

#

a bit more recently

#

After I finish the yellow cogs achievement, do I slowly replace all my cogs with ultimates?

sturdy totem
#

Only if their exp% bonus is higher

atomic fable
#

Alright

#

sometimes yellow can give 21%

#

and red like 30% or more

sturdy totem
#

Not all of them do that's why you check

atomic fable
#

yeah, what about the boosters that are lower exp?

#

do I get rid of them and lose the boost?

sturdy totem
#

Personally I would just because it's less of a mental pain than to calculate whether it'd be more beneficial to keep them

atomic fable
#

Alright, so full exp only basically until mid-late game?

sturdy totem
#

You're gonna replace all the grey and yellow cogs eventually anyways and your dks are gonna be the main source of build rate

#

Yep

atomic fable
#

Alright, fair point

#

after the achievement, they're likely the 1st to go

sturdy totem
#

You can always just keep a few yellow cogs in the inventory, switch them in for the achievement when you have enough and immediately switch them out after to go back to ur build

#

Doesn't need to be good cogs

atomic fable
#

That's what I'm doing for any cogs that are not exp or beats previous ones

#

if it is higher than a different coloured cog, it'll be replaced immediately

arctic bane
#

can someone help me

bronze moth
#

what do u need help on

atomic fable
#

That's very high % exp boost for a basic cog

arctic bane
#

is this a lava skull?

sudden wadi
#

im pretty sure yes

arctic bane
#

then why the skibbidi sigma am i still rift 31???

atomic fable
#

Quite odd how a basic cog outboosts some of my ultimate cogs

#

Got the achievement

arctic bane
#

i mean i alredy killed at least 3 lava skulls

next void
#

I must ask a question

arctic bane
#

what

next void
#

Is archer ability eagle eye, or the w3 drone better for collecting traps? And, is the archer bonuses for trapping applied to both or either?

arctic bane
atomic fable
#

Do I just only make ultimate cogs from now on?

west ingot
#

Hear me out, w7 he adds a shop that can automate Orion for the price of like 10 mega feathers

sterile kelp
#

Is having king doot useful in end w4?

sudden wadi
#

no

glacial turtle
#

@next void equal

next void
west ingot
next void
atomic fable
#

I found 1 good use for exp potions

#

and that's during es portal

#

Since it'll increase xp and dr the more it increases

arctic bane
#

can someone answer me why did i killed 3 lava skulls and still need to kill one to egt to the rift 32???

robust marsh
#

What is the likely hood of Equinox mirror dropping on your first kill?

sudden wadi
#

its usually 1 per character did you already do it on that one?

sudden wadi
glacial turtle
#

1 in 1000

atomic fable
#

Just curious - Is it best to use the exp potions during es portal if card finding?

arctic bane
sudden wadi
#

yes

robust marsh
#

Hmmm

#

That means I am lucky?

glacial turtle
#

enough yea

robust marsh
#

I just entered the map and it dropped on the first kill

glacial turtle
#

id be happy

robust marsh
#

I am very happy

#

It saved 3 12 hour candys of mine

#

I was about to use it

atomic fable
#

I'm wondering drone - Is a good use for exp potions when card farming is to do it during the portal with es?

#

since the exp increases overtime while portal is active

glacial turtle
#

@atomic fable i dont know how much the exp boost the portal gives vs going to your highest exp mob and equiping potions and active exp cards

atomic fable
#

Oh, true

#

Portal for me is +7% per kill during portal

glacial turtle
#

but the w4 exp potion is good and if you dont have any other usefull food stuff it cant hurt

#

@atomic fablealso exp potions are used up on kill at a chance so some of the early mobs might eat the potions first

atomic fable
#

that is true

#

so maybe not then considering it's a bit hard to obtain them

#

I still can get 10k exp near the end of portal without potions

cold wraith
#

hell yea

#

i can finally deposit my statues

atomic fable
#

Nice (going for onix?)

eager sphinx
glacial turtle
#

@cold wraithgod ive gotta do that but its tedious

atomic fable
#

How do you check the mob's exp?

glacial turtle
#

@atomic fable look at exp per hour

#

in afk

atomic fable
#

Oh

sudden wadi
glacial turtle
#

thats not perfect you will usually get more exp from active than afk

atomic fable
#

So a sweet spot is maybe being able to 1 shot at highest xp rate?

cold wraith
sudden wadi
#

last one might take a bit

cold wraith
#

yea im not even trying it

atomic fable
#

I don't even have all gold statues yet

cold wraith
#

on the plus side i have 100% snake skin and all onyx

glacial turtle
#

@atomic fable if the afk exp is high then the active exp is higher

atomic fable
#

Oh, I see

#

and the game crashed... bruh

glacial turtle
#

so look for highest afk exp

sturdy totem
#

waffle you should probably update your username, that's not early w3 behavior xD

cold wraith
#

what

sleek bane
#

average w3 onyx statue grinder

atomic fable
#

Okay, phew, I kept the rare drop from crabcakes

cold wraith
#

oh man its like releasing a big dump

sturdy totem
cold wraith
#

yea?

sturdy totem
#

why?

cold wraith
#

i dont see anything wrong with this

glacial turtle
#

@cold wraith my man went up to the statue guy and buried him

sturdy totem
#

🤔

glacial turtle
#

@cold wraiththere are but its your life to use

cold wraith
#

autoreview wise im early w3

glacial turtle
#

i know

sturdy totem
#

oh that's what that means

atomic fable
#

It's the same case for me due to 1 achievement now

sturdy totem
#

my mistake then

sleek bane
#

is wiki back up

sturdy totem
#

Sort of

sleek bane
glacial turtle
#

i just tried it worked so maybe

sturdy totem
#

Its back on a new host but it's sometimes slow and some pages still crash, but afaik you just need to refresh a couple of times

sleek bane
#

what even happened

zenith hare
#

murder

cold wraith
#

@zenith hare is this fine for depositing statues

zenith hare
#

mines this :3

cold wraith
#

ok ill deposit

zenith hare
#

whats snake skin vial?

#

and how much onyxs you got?

atomic fable
#

I'm nearly level 85 on my es

#

which means I can soon equip a 3rd prayer at once

cold wraith
zenith hare
#

how long till dragon gets onyxed if you use all chars?

cold wraith
#

uh forever idk

#

never tried afk there

zenith hare
#

do so

#

mk/t afk build

#

at least do one char

cold wraith
#

is it bad if they have too much hp

zenith hare
#

its far better then monuement afk for a while

zenith hare
cold wraith
#

ok i will put everyone in there and active bubo

zenith hare
#

active bubo is bad there

cold wraith
#

i meant in wurms

zenith hare
#

yes its the best method, but its still terrible

#

smh

astral lava
zenith hare
#

no

astral lava
zenith hare
#

rn i think db is

#

even before, bubo was best

cold wraith
#

oh

astral lava
#

Mmm

zenith hare
#

its still trash

#

as mk drops doesnt work while active

astral lava
#

I thought that SB was the only one that can respawn them

zenith hare
#

bubo can afaia

#

its just too small a map with low mobs for it to be good

#

not till tentieye 400 anyways

#

(which we can now theoretically get btw)

cold wraith
#

so hold onto statues till onyx dragon

astral lava
atomic fable
#

is it a bit too early for me to start preparing onix statues?

lucid falcon
#

How do I increase my refinery speed

cold wraith
#

@zenith hare do i want dr or dmg cards

lucid falcon
#

The wiki is down

astral lava
candid scarabBOT
zenith hare
#

also yeah insight is still up, and wiki is up now

#

its just slow

zenith hare
astral lava
zenith hare
#

barely enough damage for next mk tier

zenith hare
lucid falcon
zenith hare
cold wraith
#

is this fine

zenith hare
#

gold balls can also help from arcade, so make sure to invest killroy shite into balls

zenith hare
cold wraith
#

this is with all my p2w items tho so all my other characters will be kinda bad

zenith hare
#

mob respawn chips

cold wraith
#

dont have any

zenith hare
#

thats a lie

#

theyre super easy to get, and they rotate frequently

cold wraith
#

turns out i dont have mob respawn prayers either

zenith hare
#

no way you dont have any unless you just dont claim chips

lucid falcon
cold wraith
#

let me see

zenith hare
zenith hare
cold wraith
lucid falcon
#

Ok I haven't unlocked it yet

cold wraith
zenith hare
zenith hare
cold wraith
#

ok

zenith hare
eager sphinx
#

Would joining a high leveled guild help a lot?

zenith hare
lucid falcon
#

Of course not W7 doesn't exist its a joke

cold wraith
#

i have one mob respawn chip

atomic fable
#

idk how many card levels I want for w4

zenith hare
#

autoreview for my acc

#

would like to say otherwise

sturdy totem
zenith hare
#

tldr: assumed you were late game

zenith hare
cold wraith
#

embarrassing

#

and you call yourself end game

atomic fable
#

I'm wondering meme, is it fine that I'm combining card grinding, dn and rare drops at the same time?

zenith hare
#

i dont

cold wraith
#

ok bud

zenith hare
atomic fable
#

for example: I'm in crabcakes right now going for nuget cakes

#

which also passively gains progress towards 1m on dn

astral lava
cold wraith
astral lava
#

Working on stamps and alchemy

sturdy totem
atomic fable
#

True

#

so I'm at least gradually getting the 1m out of the way while doing so passively

west ingot
#

Will auto review actually help with progression?

true hamlet
#

No if you're too obssessed with it

iron jay
atomic fable
#

I'd use auto review as more where you're weak spots are

#

For example: my alchemy by auto review is early w5 and I'm early w4 map progression

#

so that's clearly not a weak point rn for me

#

another example is my stamps being early w4, being equal to my map progression, so I could work on stamps

bronze moth
#

yeah autoreview is more for account progression/shape when you're pushing

atomic fable
#

I got a level up on es not too long ago

#

meaning I can now equip 3 prayers 😄

lucid falcon
#

So how do I speed up my skull farming in the rift

atomic fable
#

Got my 2nd nuget cake during the farming, nice

eager sphinx
zenith hare
#

unless you know what to look at

#

but most people are blinded by alchemy being 2 worlds below and drop everything to rush an afk skill

eager sphinx
#

Whats star signs?

zenith hare
#

go to the top of w1 big tree

#

youll understand when there

eager sphinx
#

Oh I need to finish that quest. Also I thought sigils are a w4 thing where are those at in W2?

atomic fable
#

For pushing, there's 2 key alchemy bubbles: fmj and shaq

bronze moth
#

sigils are a big nono till w6/ unlocked all bubbles

stiff cobalt
#

do shiny pet passives work even when not in the fenceyard?

eager sphinx
#

What even are sigils?

stiff cobalt
zenith hare
#

3rd

eager sphinx
#

Isnt the 3rd vials?

zenith hare
#

theyre basically useless till w6 time though, as ur sigil rate is too slow to get the good one

atomic fable
zenith hare
#

we were both wrong, it was 4th

zenith hare
eager sphinx
#

isnt the 4th the p2w tab?

atomic fable
#

Oh

zenith hare
#

red bit is sigls

eager sphinx
#

Oh yeah

stiff cobalt
#

man wtf did i say 2nd

#

having a stroke or smthn

zenith hare
#

yes

#

i also had one!

eager sphinx
#

it says unlock in w4 anyways

sudden wadi
atomic fable
#

I think I can connect to the sigil thing in the lab by now

zenith hare
#

dont

atomic fable
#

I haven't tried know

bronze moth
#

don't

zenith hare
#

its an early game trap

bronze moth
#

they're like useless till like you've unlocked every single bubble

zenith hare
#

too much wasted alchemy bubble unlock progress

atomic fable
#

yeah, I've been told you want to wait until w6 and all bubble unlocks anyway

#

Okay, it seems like mana isn't a issue anymore for me

#

on some maps

bronze moth
#

11k more kills till clammies guysss

atomic fable
#

tbh, I kinda feel alchemy should maybe go over some combat bubbles, would be helpful (in auto review)

eager sphinx
#

Should I start the star signs rn?

zenith hare
#

yes

eager sphinx
#

Ill get my hunter on it

sudden wadi
#

they take a while to get through

eager sphinx
#

Unless it doesn't apply to all characters

zenith hare
#

it does apply to all

atomic fable
#

is there any good options for a 3rd prayer?

#

now that I've unlocked it

zenith hare
#

depends on the prayers you got

atomic fable
#

after this portal, I'll show

#

got 3 platinum coins during crabcakes, not bad

zenith hare
bronze moth
#

i can't wait for eclipse armor in w7

#

(after godshard is eclipse coins right?)

atomic fable
#

This is all I have

next void
#

Yo I got another question

iron jay
astral bolt
#

what were the classes that were best for farming

iron jay
atomic fable
#

How beneficial are giant monsters?

astral bolt
#

i think like active farming

iron jay
astral bolt
#

one was something like a divine knight right

atomic fable
#

Ooh

iron jay
zenith hare
iron jay
#

Crystal farm DK/ES

astral bolt
#

alright thank you

atomic fable
#

Oh, I did the giant monster thing...

zenith hare
atomic fable
#

since someone did suggest that

true plover
#

Im confused on how to do the carriots request..

#

I feel dumb not understanding it

zenith hare
true plover
#

yeas

zenith hare
#

which one?

true plover
#

use ladel to finsih recipe

next void
zenith hare
true plover
zenith hare
#

theres two parts

next void
true plover
#

Crap I have to use ladels to completye it? so like I need a bunch to instant it?

thorn mango
#

2nd set of troll completed Grumblo_Pray

atomic fable
#

Okay, latest map gives me the most exp

zenith hare
#

itll tell you basically exactly

true plover
#

omfg i am dumb

atomic fable
#

Okay, portal is a bad idea with no defence ;-;

next void
zenith hare
#

this should be it

#

just afk in kitchen for 15 mins for the last one btw

true plover
#

I need to do the damn asfk poart...

next void
#

Don’t worry u get more ladels

#

Oh lol

atomic fable
#

Highest class xp I can reach is 3.25x with cards and potions

stiff cobalt
#

Do shiny pets bonuses work when they are not in the fenceyard? I know they dont lvl up, but do i still get them?

thorn mango
#

Wait no nvm

thorn mango
#

You keep the bonuses even if they aren't in fenceyard sorry happytroll

eager sphinx
# zenith hare it does apply to all

Wait do I need to bring each player to it or does only 1 have to make it to the star signs (Like is it like the stamps or sorta like the postal office in w2)

stiff cobalt
#

I good, means i can lvl up my breedability stat to get new pets

zenith hare
#

which there is a quick ref menu for

stiff cobalt
#

so glad infinite star signs exist

eager sphinx
#

My barb doesnt have the tree done for some reason but can I still open it?

zenith hare
zenith hare
eager sphinx
#

nice

atomic fable
#

umm, meme... idk if I should be maximising xp if I have to play cautiously to gain the xp

zenith hare
#

for w1-3 skills anyways

atomic fable
#

I'm talking about class exp

zenith hare
#

you cant really overlevel in that

next void
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So u guys know, NOBODY tells ME wat to do, u got that?

zenith hare
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just dont use the xp cards

stiff cobalt
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Everytime somebody tells me wat to do I’ll kill em

atomic fable
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Oh, not with this low defence anyway?

zenith hare
atomic fable
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yeah, okay, I should abort trying to maximise xp fully

true plover
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is it active afk in the kitchen or leave a toon there

atomic fable
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I'm losing over 100 hp per hit

zenith hare
sleek bane
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which card set should i use for lab

zenith hare