#midgame-chat-w3🧊w4🔮
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yup
And final stats show I probably didnt do as good as yall did, but its better than earlier
What's the best class for 10th char
depends what are your other 9 classes are
I have every class (including vman) 2dk and 2 bubo
why 2 bubo?
well it would have been better if you had two es but thats fine
I messed up clicking
Beuh
Wait, 2 es is better?
Yes
Yep
yes
better than two bubo or two bm
2dk 2es 1 everything else
That could maybe be my 8th and 9th character?
So whats the best class for 10 char?
not 3 dk
I think I'm honestly throwing my account at this point everyone's skilling because pushing is slow even though I should just focus on pushing😔
anyone farming shipies?
Don't give up man
honestly you could js leave 10th blank until lava puts out all the master classes
Or atleast make it beginner
If u saw my acc u would prob continue that
I think I now know what to make my 8th and 9th character: Probably a 2nd dk, then 2nd es?
Well my account is rushed this cupcake dude makes me wanna cry
doesnt matter if your acc is rushed you can always catch up
yes
but best bet is to keep pushing worlds
I know I can catch up but this dude has fucking 75k oak print mine is 6k and his damage is like double mine and he doesnt have all elites yet😅
I have 4/6 elite classes atm
I'm actually gonna incinerate you
;-;
I just wanna be in w4 already lol. Plus isnt the boss gonna take a while to kill?
i mean tbf cupcake is in here asking questions 24/7
i dont see you in here much
Db is master class tho
it maybe but i dont deem it worth it
Because I've been grinding cards for a while, I've been able to build this stat up nicely
theres a 100% chance that another class will be better then DB
and sb being one is pretty high
There's an achievement for reaching 1m with the portal
Timezones probably I'm in here everyday Fir like atleast an hour
What should I save up my gems for in world 3 like anything useful I should save up for?
tbh idk if they sleep or just sleeps less then i do
crystal printer
Already have-
extra printer slots
K
I was in the chat the day he joined the server and all his shit was better than mineðŸ˜
its also not the best idea to compare yourself to them
I just progress slow in terms of worlds
when did you start playing this game? @west ingot
Well I got to world 2 about a year and a half ago then stopped playing so I officially started actually playing a little under a month ago, if not exactly a month
ok lets say a month
It took me a good week to remember everything but still think my shit should be this bad
cupcake when did you start playing?
It was in 2023, but took a break for a while, came back either late 2024 or so
That's why my dk's mining level is 64
and also why I have 10m on wode board and almost 10m on glublin on dn
how long ago from the break?
no no like when did you start playing again?
3 months ago?
I'd say maybe 1 or at most 2
Yknow now that I think about it I was one lucky alchemist to get the bubble chance to 8.8% on a shaman. When I get world 4 how much of a boost will I get for upgrading previous buffs like alchemy and such?
almost everything goes back to alchemy
I kinda wonder if I can unlock the equinox early with my es
so if we do the same thing i did with tufty then about 2 months
Yep despite it being like the best buff you start it in w2 lol
same thing with stamps
I think I was in w3 when I came back from that long break
which start in w1
Yeah which I might need to do better with
@west ingot it took you 1 month to get from w2-4 not bad
All my combat stamps
Yeah but he's taking it slow so in the long run he'll be better off
not really
Whos?
With how his prints are he's gonna be hitting multikill from alchemy and stamps and pass me 😂
you could easily beat them in everything if you rushed
but there taking there time to get everything
Technically, you have more potential in buffs and overtake my stats
its two sides of the same coin becuase both have to do everything
Rushing is mad slow though, like I'm only halfway through w4 with only 2k- kph on portals with 150k
At the rate I'm going "rushing" through the rest of w4 will take a month maybe 2 weeks
I inventory capped...
Oof
Damn Giant farmin
spend more time going through things you can do to raise your damage
Hmmm can I learn more of world 4 things like cooking and such since if done right I can get there in a few days
stamps, alchemy, gear, star signs, foods
Go farm some candy
If you feel overwhelm
quests are the best for farming consistent candy
Tbh candy won't cut it 75 hours for one portal?
W3 main quest
Gave my es an upgraded staff
You should be able to get the ice one now
Not enough red salts
Really easy to make
Use the 24/12
I'm pretty sure I have everything but red salts and if I grab it early, I have to wait days for the rank up again
Oh yeah i forgot to upgrade mine
which will just set me back more
is it worth it to use a rubifier on genie card, cba to farm 9k cards on it
Yeah not worth it
Umm... I think I can nearly push to w5... with shrine boosts, I hit 1m
did you do a vman speedrun
Go push
yeahh
that's why
everything in w4 is slow and takes time, lab makes you sit in it for probably 2-4 weeks straight before you can take some of your guys out of it. breeding is a game that you make pets and fight them agenst other pets, the main purpose of breeding is for spices these spices are used in the cooking skill which does its own thing without you having to touch it but it gives you buffs and you combine the spices to make new foods for new buffs
didnt realize it reset deathnote.
it sets vman kills to 2m on speedrun start iirc
so you probably shouldn't rack up kills on it
the boss has 80m health
Sweet... I wanna get there now. I am probably gonna get some candies someway (Quests) or another
Without shrines, it's almost 750k max damage
i dont think you can use shrines in a boss fight
Okay, so I should use the 750k one as a guide
just in case, I'll track the non-shrine damage
also the boss isnt like any other boss you've ever fought
its not just a dodge untill dead like amarok
So there's probably some heal mechanics in play
you have to do challenges to kill the boss
Ooh
yes
if you fail the challenge he heals
if you win you get to hit him once
So with a potential 1m, I have to clear 80 challenges in a row to win
yup
yeah, I might want to prepare more 1st before going for the push
tbf your skills will do more damage than what's displayed on your stat info, so that's a bit inaccurate
true
Okay, world 3 cards might be hard to grind atm
I do reach mk, but it's less than 100%
Me being confused what this is for lol
Am I doing the right idea btw with farming some cards that help dr, card% and accuracy / defence?
points at the top left
I think some good preparations for world 4 for me could be to increase my accuracy and defence card levels, and maybe dementia armour or better
Ah
Yay 75 more hours until I get out of tremor wurms
Yeah that's what I meant oops
tremor is w5
I might only get penguin to 1*
since that's where my es stops at map progression wise (in w3)
I should've pushed with es probably would've been faster tbh
I might be able to push w4 somewhat soon - my es has 750k max damage
You haven't started yet??
only got to elite classes with es
Oh I forgot you don't have all elites yet
Well I'm lab locking again and pushing if it's gonna take me an average of 3-4 days per portal with 4 more portals it's gonna take me a good minute to get there if I afk, I might active time to time but it doesn't seem very efficient
Oh cool a stamp
Nice, that's ||base mining efficiency||
It's a good stamp gets expensive money wise though
What is the class build these days? Still 2 SB, 2 DK, 2 ES and 1 of the others?
what is shrapshell??
Seems to be, yeah
W2 final mob drop I believe
the meta rn is to leave the second sb as nothing
to wait for master classes and see whats the best to pick from there
Right now the only double I have is DK
Whats SB?
Siege Breaker
most people get vman late w4 early w5
Is it maybe worth it since I want more acc and def to focus on the w3 card set?
to at least 1*
Damn i just reach 15m crit dmg
Maybe if ES hwormhole can push portal it would be good
dk = squire
BB = barb
BM = archer
SB = bowman
bubo = shamen
es = wizard
SB evolves from ranger
I see
Archer w/e
Evo of the bowman?
I might save my last 2 elite classes
until I have enough time candy to push it immediatley
Yeah farm some candy
Did I mess up not getting jman as my 7th then lol
Nah
You should be able to unlock the 8th character I believe by w4
Do people really need time candies to do it? It's ridiculously easy to get to those sections by AFKing.
I get dk 7th
You can get so many boosts by the time you get to late w4/early w5 that getting to the elite classes is simple
To getthe effect faster
most people go vman 7 dk 8 but if you do it the other way thats fine too
Okay, penguin has a stamp to get
Yeah need time to fix but its okay not that hard to get 8th class
Oh I was lowkey saving mman for 10th
I might actually try to get my 8th character and vman before fully moving to w5
no
No
you saying no to me or?
Go get asap tho
Who
you
Nope
Oh so get him 8th
Yes
Oops
Yes, a maestro is very good skilling support
7th or 8th is the sweet spot I believe
its one of the reasons cupcake has a higher print then you
But don't you have to get him higher skill levels to even boost anything
Actually, it probably isn't, I only have him highest skill level on trapping and worship
once I move him to fishing (Might time candy it), it'll be 3/6
It wouldn't have his prints be 10x better
he dosent have to be the highest just higher then the person sampling
it basically doubled it
nor the chopping ones
and neither the mining ones (all my highest efficiency ones are higher level than my maestro)
Yeah his chopping prints are just fucking on Crack
That's why I mentioned it's 1 potential way to improve my prints further
well maybe im wrong about that but either way mman is very useful for prints
Should I actually maybe use time candies to finish off maestro's fishing level to 35?
so that my maestro is best at fishing level wise
Oh, a crystal spawn in w3, nice
you could
but its better to keep it for pushing
Alright
actually, should I have it afk fishing rn?
I kept it in the lab all day lol
or mob drops when needed for a new piece of gear
Damn if i get mman it wouldnt reach my mining level higher
Is mman best for farming mod drops?
I'm not sure about mman, but vman is probably the best mob drop prints in the game
Since my mining level are the highest that could be reach normally
What about exp balloons?
I have some small ones I can use
Afking mining 2 years just basically get the level higher
i would use those on trapping and worship (yes i know your already higher lvl but it will help)
Alright, I'll consider it 🙂
lol
xD
es
anyway, fair point, I'll do that the next time I switch to maestro
for prints, I think vman is the best
but for active farming, I'm pretty sure it's es
Im currently using es and its soooooo good
Idk why I'm trying to unlock w3 portals on my es lol
When it comes to bosses, I have heard mman is best for card farming bosses
Es active right?
wait, does wormhole not count to portal requirements?
Yes
oh that's probably why it's taking longer than I expected
so it counts to dn, but not portals?
Yes
Gimme gimme skill
Okay, that makes more sense now
Resampling today probably
Maybe work towards vial prints too?
Just unlocked skill mastery and leveled up skills so should be pretty decent prints
Why?
Lv 57 is just too high
I'm worse: my DK is level 64 mining
I sat my vman on void for 6 days to outlevel my dk 
Dwmn
What world are you I'm curious
Maybe i should stop at that lvl
W4
Oh yeah I'm selling my skills are dick compared to yalld
I feel that you shouldn't level your skills too high so vman stands a chance. It's not like you can use the resources for anything by clogging up your inventory
No
Do you think I probably can't fix mining or chopping until w5?
Ive played this game before!!!!
Still I dont even have void unlocked I'm at mining 39
I can mine up to starfire I think
Make sure you're careful when chopping.. the xp gains. Mman will have a difficult time competing
with the active pickaxe ability
isnt void 35?
The highest is level 64
40
2nd place is level 53
oh only one lvl left
My prints could also suck due to the fact I haven't gotten a single dementia tool yet😂
Mine yet
And I've been doing chopping prints with a gold axe
Did I mess up my skilling levels...
l think l wasted all my candy on lvl skills for better equipment
No dimentia tool
anyone have a pic of the last mob of w4 i need to see the drop rate for the boss key
Not that hard
1/15k odds, dang
oh 15000 i miss read the dude at the end thought he said 150000
lol
Goodluck at w5
l dont think tools really make a big diff in printing tho
That's a lot of health
they die so slow
i got alot of stats from pushing you get buttloads of exp
Bro I was just playing pet arena with high performance on and my game crashed.
It don't fully work
Maybe improve on crit rate
Maybe that help
u got to turn off baundam at like 6 to 4k when your game starts to lag
damn he pushing on bb
I just had a bone guy left and it crashed
I'm wondering what I'm doing wrong on my account ill find out some day lmao
Afk all they way
I had badumdum at like 14 from looter
So, for my maestro to be better at the rest of the skills, I have to get the maestro to these levels
Fishing: 35
Mining & Chopping: 65
Catching: 50
oh u using phone right?
@west ingotdo you have a information account that you can post
Yea I'm on mobile
Idleon efficiency go check
thats prob why
Nothing wrong dont rush
Just fix some thing slowly
na rush to w5 then div till goat god then lab grind
Mine also try to fix it
If he lack on dmg and acc maybe he should fix it tho
Well my dk has 500k damage with refinery accuracy buff lmao
500k max?
I think that's now similar to me
did u guys equip strengh pots?
My es is 750k max damage with potions
Yes
Yep the w4 ones
and speed?
But i manage to get to 600k
Yep 2 speed pots 1 strength and 1 food
You do constellations? If you complete w1-3 ones you can make it to a total of +41% total damage
Do you guys think I cannot fix chopping or mining for a long while?
Do your daily quest on picnic basket
strenght pots shd give more damage then skewers l think
I've only done enough constellations to get me to chronus and since I can't use my pc rn I'm not gonna scavenge for them rn😂
I can get a new stamp tomorrow 😄
what stamp?
also if you have dk you can do the ice pig quest on w3 to kill all the mobs he gives a damage stamp
I do have dk, what do I need to do for that?
clear cro snake of first then clear bunch of w3 mobs including deotread ram
Oh, if it requires rams, I can't do it yet
but that is only the last one
does the pet power matter for breeder gene pets in the fenceyard on breedability speed?
i think so my 400 power squirll leveled that faster than my 100 power stuf did
yeah I'm way too lazy to unlock chronus
so all the pets ive trashed with high power and breedability could've been useful 
most likely
Drone, what mobs are required in the time limit for quest 2?
I will have to unlock the rams for the 3rd one
the cyro snakes and the two maps till the boss
last 3 maps
Okay
bro i need 2 more mining levels to finish up maestro's mining lvl requirement, and 17k more kills until i can reach clammies
Oh that pig's thing?
Yeah, you could do it when you feel like pushing for equinox
Equinox can really up your fishing levels
I can maybe go for equinox maybe when I go for vman
Since I have to get 1m on dn anyway on all of w3
Yeah for sure, pribably even earlier though
1M on bloodbone takes quite a while
Small map and high health
So low kph and low mk
I could go for equinox at all elite classes unlocked / Mid w4
Op hat
Higher dmg than dementia lol
thw wiki is buggy asf
Yeah wiki we need you
@bronze moth mine just 404s on a black sceen
some pages are working, but the others are either locale errors or just bad gateway (502)
i'm close to the rift guy
Honestly, if you're w4 progress is fast, you can wait till nobisect and arctis divinity
Nobi gives 2x and arctis allows you to connect to lab remotely for another 2x from killer brightside
your gonna want to start haveing your pusher work at that while you sleep
Because no point unlocking equinox too early when you can't complete some dreams
1 dream ik is character level 100
Yeah that's about it when it comes to dreams that are free giveaways 
@atomic fable i used easily a 100plus hours in candy to cut down on the grind and it still took a few days
ik I don't have enough accuracy on either dk or es
should I unlock equinox (my dk is my farthest pusher at biggole worms, others are all at least at demon genies (except jman))
with bright side
Biggole worms are so annoying I need like another 70 hours to finish the portal
So I've resorted to plan b - Card farming
First few tasks is lvl 100 on all chars, 30 refinery ranks, 20 gstacks, 1mil sample, 400killroy. You decide
@atomic fablemake some lower teir tools and put there acc stat on them
lvl 100 on all chars isn't bad at all, 30 refinery ranks not so bad, the others except 400 killroy are too difficult
@forest portalno bright side even the boss keys has to be farmed thats were im stuck at right now 1 in 15000 but the mobs are healthy
Then you aren't getting anywhere in equinox
when it says all characters
i am super close to getting to clammies
does that mean all 10 or all current?
17k more kills till the next map
auto food consumption is saving me rn ðŸ˜
Whats your kph
Is it worth to get everyone cooking to get this rotations lab upgrades (cooking speed & accuracy chip)? They seem really valuable
clammies goes a bit faster theres so many of them your kph goes up
2,076
Mines only 1900
@eager sphinx if you ever need help feel free to @ me
Alright will do
not that far behind
bro the bubble chances are killing me rn
what is it?
i'm grinding my strength and agi cauldrons with like 18% and 22% chance and I got like 5 chances and I still can't get it ðŸ˜
I should probably join a high leveled guild instead of starting my own-
Yeah I gave up on trying to get new bubble now I'm gonna work towards maxing my cauldrons in the boost section
pls tell me u do it with bubo
i am a sane person, i do with bubo
are there any construction grid layout example?
@rustic elbow if you can, do you have the jewels to buy the cooking speed one you can only get 1 daily at the shop
My chances with bubonic are sub 10 still
i booked my bubble breakthrough talent to 112
Does AGL affect the XP you get from trapping? IE" From the XP only traps
It's going to be sub 1
yup😢
@proven river focus bounes exp first your charaters give more stats than your cogs will
bro the cheaper bubble coupon is OP
I think I might have just enough on the last day haha
use it on diamad chef
YES!!! I finally got nblb with 5 characters! Is this finally the right time to free my maestro?
work to get bright side now with 5 people
i'm not at that bubble yet (my bubbles are behind, super close to w4 bubbles)
rip
but why do u want to free maestro?
@atomic fabledid you kill the w2 boss thats an hour glass
for the skilling exp reasons
i remember when I was crashing out over the fact that I was just 1 pixel away from killer brightside and whenever I pushed my char one more pixel i lost the connection ðŸ˜
lol
I'm not even close to bright side
if you made your line a bit lower you may reach killer brightside
Draw a straight line and then use different characters at different points to lower the deviation as much as possible
have u got ur bubo yet?
I have
Should I try respecting the tree and put all to line width?
if that's not enough, then it's clear I need levels?
this man can help too
i just split my points between the lab xp and the line width on my skilling preset
Oh
I don't have any on the line width
should I reset the talents and prioritise line width > exp early on?
when I get my mman back in lab (he's currently a jman) i'll be able to get shrine world tour 
are these two map locations also mob areas? last two in w3
wiki aint wiki-ing 
best friends
Your choice
Bloodbone and equinox
It might be the only chance I have to try to reach bright side sooner
@ebon stratus yes but there for latter game stuff
the problem is, even if I do reach bright side, I'm losing nblb and refinery speed
aka w5
and I can't gain orange salts at all right now
Your lab levels is seriously not enough. You spent too little time in lab and too much time trying to push things
@atomic fable just focus on leveling your lab people for now theyll get longer lines
ah alright thanks guys 
in a few more days, i'll finally be able to talk in #lategame-chat-w5🌋-w6🌸 chat

Alright
If you prepped a little more, you couldv'e cleared w4 in a few days
then dont do it and just wait till u can get all of them before pushing
I'm still only a few days into w4
idk that grumblo looks wrong
@true hamlet sure a few days sure
Okay, I can get refinery speed with 4 characters now
I did it in 3 days 🙃
please don't laugh guys ðŸ˜
what how
@true hamlet no
wait
I love bubbles
those are w3 bubbles
one bubble unlock for green
oh wait
They pretty good bubbles
ohhh icic l thought its overall bubbles
dmg% bubbles and construction bubbles
slowly going up
i would say I might be a bit close
You think lab will be a bit easier to manage once I get the 8th character?
usualy I wait a few days before trying new bubbles so I can get more chances to get a new one
what the how much did u active
db go brrr
so far only have missed ab 36 hours of active time this week
thats its true kill rate, ofc starting at 24 hours
2 days till weekly reset too
damn give your pc a break
its a laptop :3
not hard just annoying
just follow what he says, and he can only take 2 hits per minigame win
yeah, I need more lab levels I think
and I've kept my characters in lab mostly since day 1 w4
ah any insta kill stuf
I need to check my ie it's been a minute
for the coin filp u just climb
7-8 more hours till clammiess
nope
lets do this
It's stupid how long these portals takeðŸ˜
Those 24 hour candies looking at me nicely
reallll (w5 is gonna be SO MUCH WORSE)
But there's so much more to do in w5
why the hell do they make something so cheap with a level req this high
cuz its going to one shot u
that too
most likely
20k damage
i have 1k def so i may not be cooked
...
no
and what is your health
below 20k and u cooked
You using archers to push w4?
nice
aw yea
never push with archer of any kind
The dipalidated mush can't hit you when you just basic auto it it's out of reach
Slush*
Yeah just don't walk on slush and you can best it at 1 hp 0 def
It does like 1k damage when I had like 600 defence the slush
Mush doesn't do damage for shitðŸ˜
When u have poor def and are going on an underleveled archer it do
yea
is there a reason for me to keep tier 1 stones?
at this point in the game (w4 map progression)
Imo yes unless there's a secret w6 thing
Alright
But even then if there is one they'll be easier to refarm by then
I'll only keep the event stones and the tier 3 ones if I've not bought tier 4's yet
and the mystory ones (I did sell all of them earlier prior to knowing there's a stamp to them, which is my bad)
the basic mystery stone are easy to farm since at some point you dk will live at beans
yeah, I also did the t2's too which is a bit of a my bad moment
but tbf, I didn't know there's a later stamp that needs it
i just wanted some early exp on w5 but it spawned not 1 not 2 but 3 CRSYTAL MOBS
generly isnt since a lot of the class exp source are additive
@atomic fablena just buy w4 exp pots
and GT exist
Alright
also -_-
okay, then I messed up a bit on 1 or 2 characters
crafting star talent reset potion isnt all that hard
true, just tedious
it might be worth it for me to reset all my characters star talents later
as I unlock new ones
It's so badd
I unlocked vip talents
a bit more recently
After I finish the yellow cogs achievement, do I slowly replace all my cogs with ultimates?
Only if their exp% bonus is higher
Not all of them do that's why you check
yeah, what about the boosters that are lower exp?
do I get rid of them and lose the boost?
Personally I would just because it's less of a mental pain than to calculate whether it'd be more beneficial to keep them
Alright, so full exp only basically until mid-late game?
You're gonna replace all the grey and yellow cogs eventually anyways and your dks are gonna be the main source of build rate
Yep
You can always just keep a few yellow cogs in the inventory, switch them in for the achievement when you have enough and immediately switch them out after to go back to ur build
Doesn't need to be good cogs
That's what I'm doing for any cogs that are not exp or beats previous ones
if it is higher than a different coloured cog, it'll be replaced immediately
can someone help me
what do u need help on
That's very high % exp boost for a basic cog
is this a lava skull?
im pretty sure yes
then why the skibbidi sigma am i still rift 31???
i mean i alredy killed at least 3 lava skulls
I must ask a question
what
Is archer ability eagle eye, or the w3 drone better for collecting traps? And, is the archer bonuses for trapping applied to both or either?
i think is drone and i think both are equal
Do I just only make ultimate cogs from now on?
Hear me out, w7 he adds a shop that can automate Orion for the price of like 10 mega feathers
i will not hear you out
Is having king doot useful in end w4?
no
@next void equal
Ty for that
Shits genius though
Ty
I found 1 good use for exp potions
and that's during es portal
Since it'll increase xp and dr the more it increases
can someone answer me why did i killed 3 lava skulls and still need to kill one to egt to the rift 32???
its usually 1 per character did you already do it on that one?
decently high
1 in 1000
Just curious - Is it best to use the exp potions during es portal if card finding?
wait it only counts 1 per char?
yes
enough yea
I just entered the map and it dropped on the first kill
id be happy
I'm wondering drone - Is a good use for exp potions when card farming is to do it during the portal with es?
since the exp increases overtime while portal is active
@atomic fable i dont know how much the exp boost the portal gives vs going to your highest exp mob and equiping potions and active exp cards
but the w4 exp potion is good and if you dont have any other usefull food stuff it cant hurt
@atomic fablealso exp potions are used up on kill at a chance so some of the early mobs might eat the potions first
that is true
so maybe not then considering it's a bit hard to obtain them
I still can get 10k exp near the end of portal without potions
Nice (going for onix?)
What's that for?
@cold wraithgod ive gotta do that but its tedious
How do you check the mob's exp?
Oh
if you give this guy in w4 enough statues he basically doubles the bonus
thats not perfect you will usually get more exp from active than afk
So a sweet spot is maybe being able to 1 shot at highest xp rate?
wooo
last one might take a bit
yea im not even trying it
I don't even have all gold statues yet
on the plus side i have 100% snake skin and all onyx
@atomic fable if the afk exp is high then the active exp is higher
so look for highest afk exp
waffle you should probably update your username, that's not early w3 behavior xD
what
average w3 onyx statue grinder
Okay, phew, I kept the rare drop from crabcakes
oh man its like releasing a big dump
Your discord username says early w3
yea?
why?
i dont see anything wrong with this
@cold wraith my man went up to the statue guy and buried him
🤔
@cold wraiththere are but its your life to use
nope
autoreview wise im early w3
i know
oh that's what that means
Ah nice
It's the same case for me due to 1 achievement now
my mistake then
is wiki back up
Sort of

i just tried it worked so maybe
Its back on a new host but it's sometimes slow and some pages still crash, but afaik you just need to refresh a couple of times
what even happened
murder
@zenith hare is this fine for depositing statues
tldr: old host disliked a feature thats needed on most wikis so it made the feature disabled
mines this :3
ok ill deposit
how long till dragon gets onyxed if you use all chars?
is it bad if they have too much hp
its far better then monuement afk for a while
take off mob hp prayers
ok i will put everyone in there and active bubo
active bubo is bad there
i meant in wurms
Active SB is best right?
no
For gloomie mush
oh
Mmm
I thought that SB was the only one that can respawn them
bubo can afaia
its just too small a map with low mobs for it to be good
not till tentieye 400 anyways
(which we can now theoretically get btw)
so hold onto statues till onyx dragon
Ye
is it a bit too early for me to start preparing onix statues?
How do I increase my refinery speed
@zenith hare do i want dr or dmg cards
The wiki is down
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what stage of the game are you?
also yeah insight is still up, and wiki is up now
its just slow
mix of both
?!?, wiki came back?
barely enough damage for next mk tier
been for 2 days or smth from what people have been saying
Late W7
construction mastery is main way
is this fine
gold balls can also help from arcade, so make sure to invest killroy shite into balls
add mob respawn and mk/t prayer
this is with all my p2w items tho so all my other characters will be kinda bad
mob respawn chips
dont have any
turns out i dont have mob respawn prayers either
no way you dont have any unless you just dont claim chips
For refinery speed?
let me see
cause there is none
yeah

Ok I haven't unlocked it yet
what does this mean
youre not late w7 then
mob respawn stuff in general, and mk/t prayer
ok
Would joining a high leveled guild help a lot?
it helps a bit, not a lot
Of course not W7 doesn't exist its a joke
i have one mob respawn chip
idk how many card levels I want for w4
weak, should push further
tldr: assumed you were late game
workin on it
I'm wondering meme, is it fine that I'm combining card grinding, dn and rare drops at the same time?
i dont
ok bud
you can if you want
i call myself close to endgame
for example: I'm in crabcakes right now going for nuget cakes
which also passively gains progress towards 1m on dn
woas
Working on stamps and alchemy
I mean, no matter what mob you farm, you'll always be "farming" death note and cards
True
so I'm at least gradually getting the 1m out of the way while doing so passively
Will auto review actually help with progression?
No if you're too obssessed with it
It’s show your weak spots
I'd use auto review as more where you're weak spots are
For example: my alchemy by auto review is early w5 and I'm early w4 map progression
so that's clearly not a weak point rn for me
another example is my stamps being early w4, being equal to my map progression, so I could work on stamps
yeah autoreview is more for account progression/shape when you're pushing
So how do I speed up my skull farming in the rift
Got my 2nd nuget cake during the farming, nice
How do you do autoreview?
it helps with catchup, not rushing
unless you know what to look at
but most people are blinded by alchemy being 2 worlds below and drop everything to rush an afk skill
Whats star signs?
Oh I need to finish that quest. Also I thought sigils are a w4 thing where are those at in W2?
For pushing, there's 2 key alchemy bubbles: fmj and shaq
sigils are a big nono till w6/ unlocked all bubbles
do shiny pet passives work even when not in the fenceyard?
What even are sigils?
stat upgrades in the 2nd alchemy tab
3rd
Isnt the 3rd vials?
theyre basically useless till w6 time though, as ur sigil rate is too slow to get the good one
right? or am I missing something
we were both wrong, it was 4th
youre wrong, you need neither
isnt the 4th the p2w tab?
Oh
red bit is sigls
Oh yeah
it says unlock in w4 anyways
w6 noob for sure
I think I can connect to the sigil thing in the lab by now
dont
I haven't tried know
don't
its an early game trap
they're like useless till like you've unlocked every single bubble
too much wasted alchemy bubble unlock progress
yeah, I've been told you want to wait until w6 and all bubble unlocks anyway
Okay, it seems like mana isn't a issue anymore for me
on some maps
11k more kills till clammies guysss
tbh, I kinda feel alchemy should maybe go over some combat bubbles, would be helpful (in auto review)
Should I start the star signs rn?
yes
Ill get my hunter on it
they take a while to get through
Unless it doesn't apply to all characters
it does apply to all
depends on the prayers you got
:3
This is all I have
Yo I got another question
Giant Monster prayer 
what were the classes that were best for farming
which farming?
How beneficial are giant monsters?
i think like active farming
it's drop gems and candies
one was something like a divine knight right
Ooh
ES for base mats, DK for rare, Bubo for money
acc prayer
Crystal farm DK/ES
alright thank you
Oh, I did the giant monster thing...
normally someone asks the question when they have one
since someone did suggest that
w4 town npc?
yeas
which one?
use ladel to finsih recipe
Lol.. yea ok, so I’m wondering if we need each world specific splicer? Or can I get the highest lvl one and use it for all worlds?
highest will work for lower worlds yeah
Ur awesome thank u
Crap I have to use ladels to completye it? so like I need a bunch to instant it?
2nd set of troll completed 
Okay, latest map gives me the most exp
go to the quest book
itll tell you basically exactly
omfg i am dumb
Okay, portal is a bad idea with no defence ;-;
U hold tap on labels in ur inventory after u started cooking
I need to do the damn asfk poart...
Highest class xp I can reach is 3.25x with cards and potions
Do shiny pets bonuses work when they are not in the fenceyard? I know they dont lvl up, but do i still get them?
Wait no nvm
yes they do
You keep the bonuses even if they aren't in fenceyard sorry 
Wait do I need to bring each player to it or does only 1 have to make it to the star signs (Like is it like the stamps or sorta like the postal office in w2)
I good, means i can lvl up my breedability stat to get new pets
only one player needs to go there for it to start working, but every character has different starsigns
which there is a quick ref menu for
so glad infinite star signs exist
My barb doesnt have the tree done for some reason but can I still open it?
doubled star signs still need to be manually done
yup, its on the quick ref menu after you unlock it
nice
umm, meme... idk if I should be maximising xp if I have to play cautiously to gain the xp
only mman should do that
for w1-3 skills anyways
I'm talking about class exp
you cant really overlevel in that
So u guys know, NOBODY tells ME wat to do, u got that?
just dont use the xp cards
as in if i have a star sign and it gets made infinite, i need to change it?
Everytime somebody tells me wat to do I’ll kill em
Oh, not with this low defence anyway?
if you want a starsign doubler to work yes
yeah, okay, I should abort trying to maximise xp fully
is it active afk in the kitchen or leave a toon there
I'm losing over 100 hp per hit
afk, swap char
which card set should i use for lab
skill eff or skil afk