#midgame-chat-w3๐ŸงŠw4๐Ÿ”ฎ

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cold wraith
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its the question mark pet in w4 pets.. like the 4th or 5th one

eager sphinx
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I have used youtube and found barbarian+Squire talent priorities, Alchemy is the biggest buff pretty much, Exp Cogs over other cogs, and just a little bit about some construction like get crystal printer and salt lick for more printing. But I dont really know of other should and shouldn't do

sleek stone
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Yeah i just need some dmg to push to w5

cold wraith
ocean path
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Then I will just keep uppgrading towers, do u know around what lvl it is?

cold wraith
steady cove
sleek stone
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Maxed at 500k eventho refinery 100%

sleek stone
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Dunno what else that increase them dmg on DK

cold wraith
eager sphinx
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Yeah just checked it is set to 0% for the refinery

cold wraith
sleek stone
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So go hp build?

cold wraith
sleek stone
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And some on str

steady cove
cold wraith
sleek stone
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Ahh okay

cold wraith
eager sphinx
sleek stone
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thank you

cold wraith
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here you can use this

steady cove
untold geyser
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Where is most of your power scaling suppose to come from by world 3ish? I feel like I'm missing/doing something wrong

cold wraith
untold geyser
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Talent points aren't doing it anymore.

cold wraith
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pretty easy to hit with alchemy andn clickers

zenith hare
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100k

untold geyser
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I feel like my damage fell off, clickers?

cold wraith
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yea 100k knew it was somewhere around there

zenith hare
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even 50k would work

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chiz has 0 healing

steady cove
atomic fable
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I probably should print void ore next time I do prints

cold wraith
atomic fable
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instead of maybe either iron or gold

untold geyser
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I made it to the ice snakes and feel like it takes too long to kill them, so I feel like I missed somethig

zenith hare
untold geyser
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Let me look...

atomic fable
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1 more card for giga frog 2*

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then move onto the next card% card, right?

steady cove
cold wraith
atomic fable
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That's what I'm doing actually

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I'm using my es to card farm a bit

cold wraith
eager sphinx
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I probably need a lot of talent reset potions what would be a great way to farm them?

quiet crane
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||@zenith hare how can my graveyard be on like 70s cd if i havent touched the game in like 10 mins ?||

cold wraith
eager sphinx
steady cove
cold wraith
quiet crane
cold wraith
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js cloud save

sudden wadi
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lets go

quiet crane
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ive been playing active for like 2 hours whats there to save

zenith hare
cold wraith
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desync issues

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when your game lags and turns it into afk

zenith hare
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reload the map

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it ain't desync

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it's a genuine bug with tombstone sometimes deleting itself

cold wraith
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listen to bean

untold geyser
quiet crane
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i think it happens once and never comes back unless u fix it

cold wraith
north compass
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oh yea that

atomic fable
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I'm ngl, you think card farming with es also helps deal with the 1m requirement for dn?

zenith hare
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2 nights ago I lost basically all of my nights afk

atomic fable
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to at least get a little closer to it

zenith hare
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due to it

quiet crane
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@zenith hare :)

untold geyser
cold wraith
zenith hare
atomic fable
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Okay, so it's not a bad time to card farm?

quiet crane
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higher than yesterday atleast :D

cold wraith
atomic fable
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I have es, Yes

eager sphinx
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Yeah my barbarian does like 46.5k dmg having to farm the Mamooth cuz I dont have that good of accuracy for snowmen-

atomic fable
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I got it today

cold wraith
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perhaps its just lacking damage

quiet crane
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it prolly is

cold wraith
untold geyser
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I'm sure I'm lacking somewhere

atomic fable
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Alright

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It's actually also slowly giving me xp

cold wraith
north compass
cold wraith
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first page mats is es and rare drop bags are dk

atomic fable
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Alright, that's good to know

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So it helps with glass shards and nuget cakes (For es)

untold geyser
untold geyser
quasi copper
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is there a point to getting any gathering pets for breeding besides baby boas since well i can just fill up all the collums with them right and get a huge boost?

north compass
cold wraith
untold geyser
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Ah, okay so I have 2 or 3 of those unlocked, I just need to go farther with it

cold wraith
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if you can.. if you cant just level up towers whenever

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boulder will be your main damage carry until you unlock poisonic

atomic fable
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I should pause card farming for a minute

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I can level up green salts

eager sphinx
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I feel like golden foods are a bad choice to rely on early game when ya have so little. Or are they good to use anytime?

cold wraith
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and using speed pots if you hit alr

sudden wadi
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bean stock helps alot with gold food

cold wraith
sudden wadi
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i know

cold wraith
atomic fable
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Dr cards can help with that quest

cold wraith
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i still havent touched that npc

atomic fable
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I think

cold wraith
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quests sound like a pain

atomic fable
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Drop rate cards

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Or cards that boost your drop rate

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Had to stop my card farm for a second to rank up green salts

sudden wadi
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ya you just need more patience

eager sphinx
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How far is greens salts I only have orange lol

atomic fable
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It's the 4th salt you unlock

cold wraith
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almost there

atomic fable
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3rd is blue

eager sphinx
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Yeah I barely know anything about w3 I didnt even spend time learning w2 I just blitzed it with a ranger (Hunter)

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Yeah I just wanna get to w4 because I been hearing that I should push to there

sudden wadi
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this game is very confusing with everything you need to do

lyric basalt
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I'm tryna unlock dense water in alchemy but my shamen only has lvl 32 alchemy and takes a while to lvl up any tips?

eager sphinx
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My very wrong printer machine. What do I need to change to

atomic fable
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I'm 1 card away from leveling up giga frogs to 2*

sudden wadi
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i would suggest to slow down a bit and take time to learn the things your going to be using

eager sphinx
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The snake skin is for the vial btw but I should switch it so I can prioritize bubbles with my liquids

atomic fable
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and bowman to bugs

white lintel
eager sphinx
white lintel
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Catching sucks is why

untold geyser
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I just realized I can pump the rat tail flask for more damage... when my water catches up anyway. I either am like "what am I going to spend this on?" or "... why doesn't this recharge faster?"

atomic fable
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Btw arctis, I unlocked my Elemental Sorcerer ๐Ÿ™‚

white lintel
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Nice good job

atomic fable
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I'm currently using it to gain some card levels

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which also helps dn a bit for later

lyric basalt
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Anyone have any tips to fast lvl up alchemy with shamen/bubo

cold wraith
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๐Ÿ˜‹

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these dreams are stupid tho

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i hate each and every one of them

north compass
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its just dungeon bro GuyMontag

eager sphinx
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K

north compass
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try again

cold wraith
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i alr have w3 dungeon one completed

eager sphinx
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Alrighty

lyric basalt
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Anyone have ANY TIPs to fast lvl up Alchemy with bubo

cold wraith
lyric basalt
cold wraith
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you said any tips bud

lyric basalt
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Ye cuz I was getting ignored ๐Ÿ’€

cold wraith
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youre welcome

lyric basalt
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๐Ÿ’€

north compass
cold wraith
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lmao

lyric basalt
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Oh shit

cold wraith
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yea alch slow until tenteye 200

north compass
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just get the alchemy based talents and pray

lyric basalt
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Tryna unlock dense water it takes so long to lvl ๐Ÿ˜ญ

eager sphinx
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My shaman is fighting sandy pots for levels so I can get more talent points so dont mind it unless there is a better spot I should do. Ranger Yuri is doing goldric quest. And I have screenshots of what my barbarian is looking like as i try to push it ig. But mostly looking for changes I need to optimize what I should be getting

north compass
noble moth
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whats a good 3 slot arena team?

noble moth
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ty

eager sphinx
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I was probably thinking it wasnt gonna survive against a sheep-

cold wraith
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give it food

eager sphinx
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It has the survivability

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But it only has 60 nomwiches

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Running out of food makes afk gains less doesnt it?

cold wraith
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yes

atomic fable
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Yes (If not already at 100% without healing foods)

cold wraith
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is hemo maxed

eager sphinx
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At a great total of no

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its at empty

atomic fable
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I have hemo at Level 30

eager sphinx
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The nomwiches are very needed- 100 to 53 survivability lol

pine fiber
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hemo is very nice to boost survi

atomic fable
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What hemo does is it gives % based HP recovery per monster kill

eager sphinx
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Problem is I need special talent reset potions-

pine fiber
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dunno if u have the craft for it yet

eager sphinx
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I uh am that clueless to talents I wasted every talent point into almost the wrong things-

pine fiber
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yeah that happens

eager sphinx
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Also learned that getting the damage stuff like agility for ranger is so so much worse than gilded blade and sharpened axe-

atomic fable
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btw, not so fun fact: the enemies needed for elite classes 2 shots my elemental sorcerer

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so I had to play that section safe

eager sphinx
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And almost all my characters dont have GB and SA talents-

sudden wadi
atomic fable
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I only had like 500 defence

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even with full defence cards

zenith hare
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most people get one shot

atomic fable
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I think me switching to defence cards on map 3 saved me

zenith hare
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due to npng likely

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barb is one of the few chars that can push without food through the entire game

atomic fable
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Once you unlock automation arm level 2, I'd keep that automation enabled unless you're doing the maestro quests

eager sphinx
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My longest afk is like 529 days. Why? Cuz I stopped playing for a long time cuz everything felt extremely slow because it seems I did everything in the game wrong. Came back and rushed w2 and halfway w3 in like 2 months

rich tulip
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is there a way to increase worship charge fast

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i wanna do it on my barbarian

zenith hare
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higher speed stat on the skull, more charge /day you get

rich tulip
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but

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i dont have enough forest souls

zenith hare
rich tulip
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cant you just use golden food?

zenith hare
atomic fable
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If this final card doesn't want to drop for long enough, I might end up reaching 500k on dn for giga frogs

eager sphinx
zenith hare
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even a week

cold wraith
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took me 6 weeks to go from w2-w6 and i was stumbling

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ask bean my account was an atrocity

zenith hare
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unless you're spam ranking refinery

rich tulip
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hemoglobin talent?

eager sphinx
rich tulip
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doesnt that affect afk>

atomic fable
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What I'm doing right now is card farming for the card%

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using my es character

cold wraith
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so cool were both early w3

zenith hare
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it's cause people go at their own pace

atomic fable
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I waited until I got the elemental sorcerer before going back for my card levels

zenith hare
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it's why you shouldn't ever compare your account to other people

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every individual account is played differently

eager sphinx
zenith hare
atomic fable
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For me, I'm taking my time through the worlds

zenith hare
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that is the only thing "needed" to rush

eager sphinx
cold wraith
atomic fable
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I've seen zui's levels

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it's like level 150+

cold wraith
zenith hare
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problem with him is that he's p2w

eager sphinx
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Clickers?

cold wraith
eager sphinx
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Ah

cold wraith
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they give a lot of early game bonuses if you havent done them

eager sphinx
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Yeah I just recently started those

cold wraith
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maybe theres your problem

atomic fable
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I got the card drop! FInally!

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I got giga frogs to 2* ๐Ÿ˜„

eager sphinx
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It takes like E36 now for my owl. and my roo I started like a few days ago-

cold wraith
white lintel
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I took forever to get from w3 to w6, probably like 3+ months, I played during class in high school and I think I got back in the game w3, and got to w6 near the end April, but Iโ€™m doing a lot better than I used to

eager sphinx
cold wraith
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def get roo up more

eager sphinx
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I am trying lol

atomic fable
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I think I have 6 on both mega fish and mega feathers

eager sphinx
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Yeah

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3 megafish now

atomic fable
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Okay, now I need 29 snelbie cards for 2*

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with only 122% mk ๐Ÿ˜ฆ

sudden wadi
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whats your card % stamp at?

atomic fable
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37%, I can level it up

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now 40%

eager sphinx
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This is my roo already

sudden wadi
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focus mainly the red one

cold wraith
atomic fable
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I probably want to try to level up that stamp more, right?

sudden wadi
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yes

slate vine
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Is there a setup that I can make to get to wave 50 with those pets? I can breed up to 5 k power

eager sphinx
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Yeah I just now got my red so the blue was before my 3rd mega fish-

atomic fable
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Alright, I'll try to level the stamp up 1st

sudden wadi
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how many slots you have?

atomic fable
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I have 7 card slots

eager sphinx
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Should I have leveled up shaquracy or saved those bloaches for something else

sudden wadi
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shaq

atomic fable
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Shaquracy gives accuracy, which is needed later on

sudden wadi
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use everything you have for fmj

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its worth it

eager sphinx
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I dont have fmj yet only 13 bubbles in strenght tryna get more-

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What does FMJ do?

slate vine
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4 slots, forgot to mention

sudden wadi
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gives both base def and def %

sudden wadi
cold falcon
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how do I do 1st step of treasure hunt 4? my drop rate is too high, and almost every mafioso drops coconut

marble silo
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is the idleon wiki broken?

eager sphinx
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Would be great for survival my barbarian has 270 defense rn thx to shrines

sudden wadi
slate vine
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will try. Got up to 45 with carrot miasma refiller fleeter

eager sphinx
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I will try

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I just call it shaq

atomic fable
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I'm going to grind a bit with sand castles

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mainly to go for the card stamp

eager sphinx
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Yeah too long for me so I shorten to first 4 letters

sudden wadi
eager sphinx
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Should probably do more boosts, right?

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Dont mind the mage there my alchemy is chaotic cuz me doing dumb stuff tryna get liquids ._.

cold falcon
eager sphinx
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Fixed up my cauldron slots buz honestly the liquid isnt getting all much faster with them

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Mostly did it for extra xp

atomic fable
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The way I did my alchemy is I have 1 character on each cauldron

sudden wadi
eager sphinx
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I have 2 on the first 3

atomic fable
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Then I used my remaining characters for the 1st water as I kept running out of water

eager sphinx
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I just got 2 of each on their perspective stat cauldron

sudden wadi
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no need for that any can go onto any cauldron

atomic fable
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Is veiny logs used for anything in alchemy?

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as if not, I can remove that and print the logs in w4

sudden wadi
atomic fable
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After that menu is open

eager sphinx
atomic fable
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select any of the drops and that'll be filtered to no longer drop. Helps lag reduction

sudden wadi
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open that page then go to the card of the enemy, click it and then click the item you want to filter

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if you do that it will appear in the filter tab

atomic fable
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I recommend if you don't need it to filter out the most common drop

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which can be very helpful if going for cards

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Speaking of cards, I'm in the sand castle map right now getting the material needed to upgrade max level

sudden wadi
atomic fable
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for the card stamps

sudden wadi
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dont worry about logs

atomic fable
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Alright

eager sphinx
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Should I keep my squire on copper or just have the 3d printer take care of it while I have the squire on higher ores?

sudden wadi
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youll be in the million prints by the time you actually need the item for alchemy

grand flare
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do the worm mutated mush spawnkills not count the ones from colo?

eager sphinx
atomic fable
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Before I placed my dk in the lab, I had him mostly mine void ores

sudden wadi
grand flare
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its the boss crystal when u kill the boss

sudden wadi
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boss

eager sphinx
sudden wadi
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yes

grand flare
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w3

atomic fable
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Is this good? I got the card stamp from 37% to 50% so far

sudden wadi
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sorry yes w3 boss to get to w4

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the extra map is where the boss is

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every map has it

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yes

cold falcon
eager sphinx
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My squire should be doing this?

sudden wadi
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check plat real quick to see if you get more xp per hour from it

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if so go do that one

atomic fable
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Later in the game, you want the maestro to be higher level than the squire

eager sphinx
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Yes like double

sudden wadi
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ok now go to gold and see if its higher

atomic fable
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Is it good I'm actively farming sand castles right now to try to get the card stamp upgraded?

sudden wadi
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find the highest xp per hour and stay there

eager sphinx
hidden violet
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Question on div jail. If im done for the day, do I switch them all back to lab to get the NBLB proc at reset before going back to div jail?

eager sphinx
atomic fable
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Correct me if I'm wrong, but once you reach 100% mine chance, you don't gain more exp/hr until you hit the efficiency required for the qty per drop

sudden wadi
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theres a goat god that allows you to lvl both lab and div at the same time as long as your guys are stuck in lab

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so get goat first then go back to lab

sudden wadi
eager sphinx
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Alrighty

eager sphinx
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I wish I have 50 liquids for the star talent book-

sudden wadi
atomic fable
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The star talent you get in alchemy is || Tick Tock ||

eager sphinx
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Keep this guy here?

eager sphinx
sudden wadi
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go to carrot map

atomic fable
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That talent book gives afk gains to both fighting and skilling

sudden wadi
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once again the tree that gives the most xp

atomic fable
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Oh

hidden violet
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Cant wait to get this goat god haha

eager sphinx
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I am just gonna sort out who goes where for now cuz I dont have talent resets for rn to fix their talents-

sudden wadi
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squires do mining

atomic fable
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The lab makes sense for me because I'm in w4?

sudden wadi
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bb do fishing

eager sphinx
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My barb is on pushing rn should I just fish?

sudden wadi
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dk is pusher

eager sphinx
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World 3

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DK is a world 4-

sudden wadi
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golden ball %

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forgot about that

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id still push with squire tho

eager sphinx
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So I have my wizard on the jungle tree
Squire on plat

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Barb is over on mamooth should continue the push prob

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Shaman at sheep for levels rn but should go where after?

atomic fable
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I eventually pushed with my squire

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to world 4

eager sphinx
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That requires candies to pop

hidden violet
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barb will be your fisher

sudden wadi
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keep your barb pushing

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he can fish after

hidden violet
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Ya

eager sphinx
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Hunter is doing nothing rn (Cuz I just got him to roo for more progress on that)

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Yeah I think I am close

sudden wadi
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hunter dosent do much in genreal

atomic fable
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This is my food setup for my elemental sorcerer right now. Is this good for what I'm using him for right now?

eager sphinx
sudden wadi
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just saying

eager sphinx
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I know

atomic fable
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I might eventually push my bowman to the 2nd last map of w3

atomic fable
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I can use some better tier potions

eager sphinx
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Yeah my bowman finally pushed to fruitflies recently and uh- I think he is definitely needing work

atomic fable
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Like decent health potions

eager sphinx
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I need to start getting on boost foods and stuff for recourses-

atomic fable
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I actually should use decent > average, I have very little average life potions

sudden wadi
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i would put on food tho

rich tulip
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im up to w3, whats the first premium hat i can get?

sudden wadi
rich tulip
atomic fable
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I have 19k decent life potions

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but only 366 average life potions in storage chest

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I've switched to that as I got some from mobs

eager sphinx
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Reasons I dont use potions

sudden wadi
rich tulip
eager sphinx
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Yeah I should start using the shop for once huh...

atomic fable
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Once you reach w4, you should be able to buy out the w1 and w2 shops easily

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except 1 item in w2 at 1st

eager sphinx
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Yeah need 2 more target ones for that quest in giga frog area

atomic fable
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Speaking of that, I have ez access to w2 shop

eager sphinx
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Everything is alright for me in expenses

atomic fable
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Same with w1 (just bought some average strength potions mid grind)

eager sphinx
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So keep bowman catching fruitflies or push w3 for the ice mosquitos?

sudden wadi
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fruitflies

atomic fable
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You need fruitflies for fmj

rich tulip
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trophies is down, how do i get them?

white path
rich tulip
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what are they and how do i get them

eager sphinx
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Man fruitflies are a pain

sudden wadi
atomic fable
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If you can, equip the efficency prayer

eager sphinx
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I just realized I didnt have that on my BM-

hidden violet
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Guess I used up all my luck lmao

eager sphinx
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But I am gonna have to walk all through the map cuz I dont have any more teleports-

atomic fable
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Nice!

hidden violet
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Ty! ๐Ÿ˜„

atomic fable
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I've started to use my tps more sparingly

eager sphinx
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Is there anything fun in w4 for me to be exited about that isnt such a chore?

atomic fable
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since I also ran out earlier

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I've began to do that on the characters I gave it to

eager sphinx
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Same

atomic fable
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I'm starting to appreciate the speed potions tbh

sudden wadi
eager sphinx
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I havent because I am low on potions cuz me dont touch the dang shop

eager sphinx
sudden wadi
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you don't have to touch your characters at all

hidden violet
atomic fable
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Got the 1st level of this ๐Ÿ˜„

eager sphinx
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I dont follow-

sudden wadi
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laughs in 3218

atomic fable
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I have the nblb in lab

eager sphinx
atomic fable
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I was able to barely reach it day 1 in w4

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and I've always had it active on daily resets

eager sphinx
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Hmmm when I do better in roo I guess I am getting more Efishent huh? I should just keep my hunter there for now right?

sudden wadi
# eager sphinx Huh?

w4 has a thing called lab, your guys will basically not be playable as long as there in lab but they get lvls just by sitting in lab and youll be able to get free perks for your guys the whole time

eager sphinx
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But I dont get recourses or do I still get them?

atomic fable
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You will gain resources from the 3d printer still from that character if you have it setup beforehand

eager sphinx
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Ok so the answer is no. Unfortunate but overall worth it later I assume

atomic fable
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is level 60 stamp for card chance good for now? I'm running out of coins

sudden wadi
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lab also gives you 2 times the printer output

eager sphinx
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Sweet

atomic fable
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Alright

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idk how I got 0 cards for sand castles during that ๐Ÿ˜ฆ

eager sphinx
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So this thing... this is my pusher yet I feel like I should be doing something different

sleek stone
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Nah dont

sudden wadi
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do you have a reset potion

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just a normal one

sleek stone
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Use squire or wizard to be fast

eager sphinx
sudden wadi
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not even the fragments?

eager sphinx
eager sphinx
atomic fable
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npng is a situational ability

sleek stone
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Ahh

atomic fable
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it increases damage, but you lose so much HP and take double damage, It'd increase the amount of food needed for 100% survivability

sudden wadi
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told them to switch once they got dk

eager sphinx
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Man wouldnt be able to survive anywhere he doesnt have defense for

eager sphinx
atomic fable
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||You'll run into that situation during the maestro questline||

sleek stone
#

Oh yeah dk first then change to main it lol

eager sphinx
#

Maybe bubo later after

inland vine
#

Anyone able to do king doot for me?

sleek stone
#

But maybe you want to afk it since barbarian are high at afk/hour

eager sphinx
#

I been afk the barb this whole time but if I wanna push active for the multikill thing for portals right?

sudden wadi
#

no barb is best afk

sleek stone
eager sphinx
sleek stone
#

Nahh if you see how barb killing those mobs are painfull

eager sphinx
#

Yeah... kinda realized that after puting the points in...

sleek stone
#

Yeah leave for a day

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Calculate it

ripe orchid
#

how does the first automation work do I have to have some in there already for it to replace?

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ty

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(btw im using elemental as my active guy should I use a diff one or keep using elemental

white lintel
#

Like Pokรฉmon battles but different

inland vine
eager sphinx
#

My barb's catching just went up for me going through a portal-

sleek stone
#

The global reset in 1.30 hours

hidden violet
unreal forge
#

At what point (if ever) should you switch from player construct xp% row/column/etc aura cogs to build rate %? If the answer is "that's the neat thing, you don't!", then just hit me with a ๐Ÿคก emoji or something

atomic fable
#

Right now, I have my ES active for the card drops

inland vine
sudden wadi
#

@eager sphinx red means try to max, blue means spread evenly and green means at least 1 point

sleek stone
#

Damn csnt help then

sudden wadi
#

onces you get that reset do that

ripe orchid
#

what is dk

eager sphinx
sleek stone
#

After 50 meat shank

sudden wadi
sleek stone
#

Yeah his acc full right there

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Ohh your pic

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Damn i didnt see it

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Yeah go for wis

eager sphinx
#

I need to unlock my 4th shrine but I need orange salt- why its a problem is I am tryna get a refinery rank up on red salt-

sleek stone
#

Yeah rank that up

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Ite painful but worth it

sudden wadi
eager sphinx
#

What does it really do aside from get more costly?

unreal forge
# hard steppe Naw you never switch

Thankyee kindly! Grumblo_Pray Follow-up question, if I may: Is the cap for cog stats based on only the highest level of the players in the cog slots, or just out of everyone regardless of if they're on the board or not? in other words: should I be using my DKs to roll for good cogs, or does it not matter? This is where I'd usually look it up on the wiki, but, y'know. ๐Ÿ’€

hard steppe
sudden wadi
#

its based off the highest charecters lvl

eager sphinx
#

I should make bigger recourse pouches for all my characters now that I see it-

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Namely food

ripe orchid
#

fr same here

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bro I wasnt paying attention and spent all my spore caps

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man

atomic fable
#

Ik I'm derailing from the intended plan, but I'm working on 1* for sand castle

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which is an accuracy card

eager sphinx
#

I just need the food pouch for 100 at least but I dont have the recipe-

atomic fable
#

Got it to 1*

vestal ether
#

is there a vman guide for dummies? preferably one not on the wiki

zenith hare
zenith hare
white path
#

wrong one

eager sphinx
zenith hare
#

that's the best you're getting

atomic fable
#

The platinum bag for the food pouch requires nuget cake, which is a 1/20k drop

zenith hare
atomic fable
#

You think the dementia bag is easier for me now meme?

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since I'm w4 map progression

zenith hare
#

and more Dr then 2.0

vestal ether
#

okay, thats helpful, but i kinda meant more like howre youre supposed to use vman

atomic fable
#

it just needs 2 boost foods (Craftable) and 10k yeti ham

zenith hare
eager sphinx
#

Imma put my hunter on nugget cake duty ig as he is available

vestal ether
zenith hare
eager sphinx
#

Whats mman?

zenith hare
#

he is a monster mat printer during speed runs, that's it

vestal ether
zenith hare
#

everyone calls him mman though

worn raptor
#

6 more and get all meals in the game maxed lmao

vestal ether
#

okay, then, explain how to use maestro

zenith hare
vestal ether
#

like, fr, you assume people know how to do things. if i knew, i wouldnt be here. or you assume people dont know how to do the basics, like check tips and tricks

zenith hare
#

when you have vman, I need to assume you at least have read mmans talents

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cause if not I'll just sound like the most condescending person ever

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so I need to assume you have basic knowledge of the class

eager sphinx
#

That is valid I guess

atomic fable
#

Mman is a support class for skills mostly

zenith hare
#

yeah

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vman speed runs, which should be self explanatory, and buffs everyone else via enhance and all his other talents

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it's literally mman+some active for the speedrun

atomic fable
#

I really should consider putting him to fishing

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to finish off leveling that above my barbarian

zenith hare
#

when you get equinox, he'll zoom in levels dw

atomic fable
#

Alright

zenith hare
#

get him to level 30, then you can send him to seasalt island

atomic fable
#

I have him at level 33

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which is 2 away from the requirement of level 35

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to overtake my barbarian (Level 34)

zenith hare
#

which islands you got?

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seasalt is a quite important one imo

atomic fable
#

I have trash, shimmer and crystal

zenith hare
#

get seasalt next then

atomic fable
#

Alright

zenith hare
#

amazing for xp

atomic fable
#

I didn't consider seasalt originally

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I'm nearly at 90k dn for sand castles because I was card grinding it with my es

sudden wadi
#

you know the worst thing is that my DB has gone from the lost lvl to highest in just about 2 days (isnt including bone farming just xp farming)

shy shale
#

what should my 9th character be, i already have 2 dk's 1 of every other except the new one

sudden wadi
#

really shows that if i actually put time into my other charecters they wouldnt be shit

atomic fable
#

You think I'm using my es properly?

eager sphinx
#

What should I do my 7th character

sudden wadi
#

wdym? for both questions

atomic fable
#

So like right now, I have my es in sand castles

eager sphinx
#

When I get account of level 500 what should my 7th character be

atomic fable
#

with auto on with portal

sudden wadi
#

oh yuri your 7th is journeyman

eager sphinx
#

K

sudden wadi
eager sphinx
#

I am desperately tryna find things to do actively with a character but am failing

atomic fable
#

I was actually going for sand castle cards earlier

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and got it to 1*, I just kept him there for a while as Idk what to do next

sudden wadi
#

sorry missread the message

atomic fable
#

Should I get sand castles to 100k on dn then move on to another area?

sudden wadi
#

sand castles are fine to farm

atomic fable
#

that'll give it another point (Copper skull)

sudden wadi
#

i would start pushing w4 rn

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you seem well equiped for it

eager sphinx
#

I wanna push something not be stuck on mamooths T-T

atomic fable
#

although my stamp levels would start falling behind

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The problem with pushing w4 is either defence (es) or accuracy (dk)

sudden wadi
eager sphinx
#

Thats what I wish I had

atomic fable
#

if I want to push with dk, I should work on accuracy cards

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to help improve it for the x1.5

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as for portal, I hit 10k total!

sudden wadi
#

just upgrade the first purple bubble

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itll give you more acc

eager sphinx
#

I should start doing that

atomic fable
#

I have it at level 40 right now

eager sphinx
#

Problem? Liquids

atomic fable
#

Same, my printer sample is decent, but not enough liquids

sudden wadi
#

one thing you can do it quests

eager sphinx
eager sphinx
sudden wadi
#

you can do quests to get time candy

atomic fable
#

I could start doing some of the w1 quests

sudden wadi
#

and every quest can be done on each charecter

atomic fable
#

to gain both time candy and extra luck stat

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I say that because of this talent

eager sphinx
#

True but I dont wanna do quests itll get repetative (Will still go do quests later)

sudden wadi
#

like the guy in slimes map w1

atomic fable
#

The guy in slimes map is 1 of the easiest quests in the game

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once you hit w2 for sure

eager sphinx
#

Mostly prio the alchemy but bloaches are there for... I dunno

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Oh right shaq

atomic fable
#

You want to try to improve fishing skill

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so you can get more bloaches

eager sphinx
#

Yep I do

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Funny enough I dunno what to do-

atomic fable
#

Here's my prints for reference

woeful karma
#

question

does shrine cheese exist?

eager sphinx
#

I have the info of a beginner player despite being in world 3

sudden wadi
eager sphinx
#

Yay level up

woeful karma
#

like
can i use the HP shrine for mining then summon it back to my guys at Bloodbones without it effecting my player mining?

eager sphinx
sudden wadi
#

no

atomic fable
#

Notice how I have my barbarian print all the fish I'm able to?

woeful karma
#

Multikill is huge tho
building death note is amazing

eager sphinx
#

Rn he be stuck in attempt to push

woeful karma
true hamlet
atomic fable
#

I'll give a huge tip if trying to push

sudden wadi
#

brb

atomic fable
#

See the active attacks in talents?

eager sphinx
#

mhm?

woeful karma
atomic fable
#

If you have not hit respawn cap, equipping these WILL improve afk gains

eager sphinx
#

Yeah I get every skill I can

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I mostly suffer from needing to actually be smart in this game

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Aka use foods and potions

woeful karma
#

honestly still am quite stupid

atomic fable
#

Another option you have is to improve your gear / armour

woeful karma
#

i hoard most of my gold food on one player instead of sharing it

atomic fable
#

That can work for some golden foods like mining efficiency

true hamlet
woeful karma
#

greedy greedy lv 180 barb

atomic fable
#

since you want that golden food for more ores / better efficiency

woeful karma
#

taking 99% of my Gnom Ghoney Gkabob and Gpies

woeful karma
true hamlet
# eager sphinx

Serrated rex rings and amarok armor w3 stoned, congrats you got a pass to w4

woeful karma
#

^

eager sphinx
#

Serated rex rings?

atomic fable
#

I probably should do some dunegon runs to get to the serrated rex rings

eager sphinx
#

Also I still dont have the full amarok unlocked-

true hamlet
#

Only need chestplate and boots

atomic fable
#

I think the chestplate boosts fishing efficiency

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If I remember right

eager sphinx
#

I need to get more merits to get the chestplate

coarse bobcat
#

when can i create my 7th char? i have 608 totals levels

woeful karma
woeful karma
coarse bobcat
#

it does not

woeful karma
#

i think like 700 or 750?

true hamlet
atomic fable
#

I think you need 500 for 7th and 750 for 8th

woeful karma
coarse bobcat
#

ah

true hamlet
#

I know last 3 is 900 1100 and 1500

coarse bobcat
#

second page x

woeful karma
atomic fable
#

I noticed I gained like 10m exp from w1 and w2 mobs

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from doing their card grinds

woeful karma
#

it says 500?

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may be broken along with wiki

eager sphinx
#

Should I just use the squire for the dungeons pause the mining so I can get these serrated rex rings?

true hamlet
#

It's probably that

pine fiber
#

sounds about right

woeful karma
#

are you sure you cant swap pages?

#

8 was 750
i was close

eager sphinx
#

I shall take him over then

atomic fable
#

Just be aware of mana

woeful karma
#

also damn i just realized im so close to my final player now... wow

eager sphinx
#

My mana is like 30-50 i think

true hamlet
#

I can't run out of mana easily hahaha

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The only class that drains my mana is beastmaster

sleek stone
#

Yeah bm sucks at mana

atomic fable
#

my dk can also quickly run out of mana too

true hamlet
#

You could try running w3 dungeons on squire, I think there is mana regen cards?

sleek stone
#

Also that whale damn 92% my mana goes out

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Potion also

atomic fable
#

I think when I push with dk, I'm going to need the mana potion on 1 of the food slots

sleek stone
#

Yeah

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Get that

atomic fable
#

There's a stronger version later in the dungeons I think

sleek stone
atomic fable
#

I have a mana potion on my es right now just to be safe

glad ridge
#

question bout food slots , if ive food afk in inventory , my guy will automatically replenish it once its gone ?

proven river
#

hey what's Rift 61 unlock, does anyone know?

sleek stone
#

Serated rex ring are recipe so search for it

proven river
sleek stone
#

But for now just use rex ring

atomic fable
glad ridge
sleek stone
#

Just some

atomic fable
#

Oh, like?

sleek stone
#

So the mana wont ran out that fast

atomic fable
#

btw, my es has 2k mana

dusky shadow
#

how to get bigger pet power

eager sphinx
#

I sorta hate dungeons cuz every time I get stuck at the end with not all the ingredients needed

proven river
#

i think the 61 Rift thing is new
because it's not in the wiki
has anyone unlocked it yet?

woeful karma
proven river
atomic fable
#

I would maybe recommend only using event food for prints

woeful karma
#

it will ransack your supplies of them if not careful

glad ridge
true hamlet
#

I can't be bothered to clear rift 20 something, my attention span can't do 5k skull points

atomic fable
#

Should I finish getting sand castles to 100k total for the copper skull? I'm 6.6k away

woeful karma
glad ridge
#

gotta make some coffee

woeful karma
#

but thats because of my playstyle

#

dont be like me
save your event food for samples only

true hamlet
sleek stone
# atomic fable Oh, like?

Yeah go for worm slot 1 then the 4th skill at tab 3 and then meteor>lightning>the other one beside lightning then 3rd and 2 skill on tab 3

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Thats all

#

7 skill so mana wont ran out

atomic fable
#

Kinda like this?

sleek stone
#

Also 20% autoskill for auto attack

sleek stone
atomic fable
#

So remove all attacks from tab 2?

sleek stone
#

Only that

#

Yes

true hamlet
#

Get mana is life, free multikill

sleek stone
#

Too much skill on es also hinder your farm

atomic fable
#

Alright, Thanks

#

That should also probably make it a lot faster too

eager sphinx
atomic fable
#

I might not need the mana potion anymore, right? (Since I have 2k mana)

sleek stone
#

Yeah

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Mine 3k but yeah no need

atomic fable
#

I just got this drop!

sleek stone
#

I put dmg potion for more dmg

atomic fable
#

and it's liquid caps!

sleek stone
#

Yesh

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That would be easy on dk maybe

atomic fable
#

Got it to level 13

sleek stone
#

Since orb double it

atomic fable
#

before I ran out of coins

sleek stone
#

Damn farm some

atomic fable
#

either way, that's huge, +13 liquid cap for all waters

#

I didn't even know sand castles dropped that

sleek stone
#

What mob you get that?

atomic fable
#

From sand castle

sleek stone
#

Oh sand castle

#

Maybe will farm it later

#

More stamp more dmg

atomic fable
#

I think I got very lucky there tbh

#

It's 1/1852 chance from a rare drop

sleek stone
#

Yeah

atomic fable
#

And I was on my elemental sorcerer

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which had slower respawn rates on average, I didn't think I'd get a stamp during card grinding

sleek stone
#

Es have higher drop rate too

#

Since you kill mobs that much

atomic fable
#

I have 1.95x

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if it happened mid portal, it'd be easily over 2x

stable valve
#

I really need to improve my prints they are so bad

sleek stone
#

Mine gonna touch 3

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But dk already touch it

sleek stone
atomic fable
#

That actually caused me to stop grinding cards to turn the stamp in

chilly spear
#

barely in world 4 and ive barely touched fishing, i got a caulifish card at 4*s from a pack, would it be worth using a 5 cardifier

atomic fable
#

once I saw that drop lol

chilly spear
#

effect would be 42% fishing speed

sleek stone
#

Yeah got lucky on cards when i buy thos w5 cards bonus

hidden violet
#

Did you guys craft chiz helm for w5?

atomic fable
#

Well, that gets that stamp out of the way for later

stable valve
#

I didnt

sleek stone
#

Didnt event touch it

hidden violet
#

Bet

sleek stone
stable valve
#

I havent even got anvil 4 yet waiting on salt

sleek stone
#

Damn

hidden violet
sleek stone
#

Mine will be lika that till w5

#

Maybe do some TD upgrade

stable valve
hidden violet
#

Leveling up towers atm tho

stable valve
#

just do boulder all the way

sleek stone
#

Its fun tho strategize them

stable valve
#

i spam boulder and the party one

hidden violet
sleek stone
#

Yeah lvl up boulder

atomic fable
#

Bought about 10k of w3 strength potions

sleek stone
#

Then you good to go

atomic fable
#

so I can use it for my es

hidden violet
stable valve
#

I havent used any food or potions only gold ones really

sleek stone
#

Damn

atomic fable
#

Where do you get the upgraded rex rings?

sleek stone
#

I need pot to get dmg

sleek stone
stable valve
stark kestrel
#

From baba yaga

hidden violet
atomic fable
#

Oh

#

so I have to do either colosseum from w1 or check the mushroom map every hour

hidden violet
#

yep

sudden wadi
#

im back how we doing

stable valve
#

yeah colosseum is best bet for next 45mins

sleek stone
#

Oh yeah baba boo

atomic fable
#

I can do 8 rounds

#

I got it's card!

sleek stone
#

Damn you didnt do colo?

atomic fable
#

I was mainly doing world 2 colo

#

but at least I have a reason to do w1 colo

sleek stone
#

Do those quest on colo

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Youll get more candy

#

Especially w2 colo

tawdry fulcrum
#

hello

atomic fable
#

Once i get the recipe

#

I'll only do w2 colo in the future

tawdry fulcrum
#

!merit3

candid scarabBOT
#

1๏ธโƒฃ One point into Telekinetic Storage which has an ability to deposit all items in your inventory into the chest while destroying everything on the ground. This is a great quality of life feature. Skip this if you have the ram companion.
2๏ธโƒฃ Buy until you have 3 building spots and 3 food slots. This can be between 0 and 2 purchases depending on gem shop purchases. Food slots will help your pusher go faster and 3 building spots is a 50% construction speed boost.
3๏ธโƒฃ Talent levels are hugely important and the library should be used as much as possible.
4๏ธโƒฃ The 3D printer will be how you get most of you skilling materials in the future. To make good use of it you need your sample size to be as close to the 90% cap as possible.
5๏ธโƒฃ Buy the rest. More slots = more better.
6๏ธโƒฃ Leveling telekinetic storage gives up to +13.6% Carry Cap which is good for afking longer, stamps and crafting, but is not a priority early on.
7๏ธโƒฃ You won't get enough points to consider buying respawn for a long time by which you will have cleared all W3 portals.
salt Get the first level when you reach rank 3 on orange salt and get another level each time a new salt reaches rank 3.
โš”๏ธ The last recipe is for the Chizoars Caustic Scarf which is best in slot for a long time giving both damage and respawn. Get this when you can complete the associated task of beating Chizoar with 8 characters. Other recipes are for Chizoar gear. The helmet gives +15% damage and can be considered if you are making purple salt. The other pieces are mediocre but some make the chestplate for 3% damage.

sick surge
#

Which trap does everyone use to get the most amount of critters for refinery?

sudden wadi
#

silk skin

atomic fable
#

Should I get metal traps for my maestro asap?

eager sphinx
#

How do I do the pack mule task for the world 1. It looks simple and all i need to get the amaroc chestplate recipe for my barbarian to push w3. Kinda odd to ask a w1 thing for a w3 push-

sudden wadi
#

its main purpose is shinys but each its one of the best on quantity till the very last traps

sudden wadi
atomic fable
#

Alright

#

After that, I might want to start going towards anvil tab 4

sick surge
atomic fable
#

Wait, I just got a 1/20k drop in colo

sudden wadi
#

thats great

eager sphinx
#

And it gives me 1 merit which is all I need for the amaroc chesplate recipe

stable valve
#

I have no idea how im gonna catch up on mining on my mman im 12 lvls behind but can get nowhere near the efficacy of my DK

atomic fable
#

Finally got my last w1 card - Rats

sick surge
eager sphinx
#

Nvm finally got the pack mule task done

native goblet
#

any suggestions for active push in w3?

sick surge
stable valve
#

Im getting 200k an hr at plat ore

#

exp

#

on my mman

sudden wadi
sudden wadi
stable valve
#

i think its around 150k i think not 100% though, im currently killing shrooms for vman

atomic fable
#

Didn't get the drop ๐Ÿ˜ฆ

sudden wadi
atomic fable
#

yeah, that was 8 tries

viscid oyster
#

help. my samples randomly went from 6x to 3x. Using Harriep and Arctis from conjuror bonus in hole should produce the purple 6x samples, right?

atomic fable
#

I have 3 more tries with colo

hollow hedge
#

need help with setup ?

atomic fable
#

then I have to actively grind the map it spawns on

viscid oyster
#

Yeah, all are active in lab because of Arctis bonus from the Hole.

trail stirrup
#

guys wheres a beast master talent point guide? cant find one on yt

sudden wadi
#

it should be 6 times then

eager sphinx
#

If I start doing things right how long should it take me to get to w4 (I know I will be slower but still)

sudden wadi
#

could be a visual glitch

trail stirrup
#

im literal garbage tho and i took it slow

sudden wadi
#

maybe try restarting your game to see if it gets fixed

sudden wadi
eager sphinx
#

Ye I am leaving it to push at snowmen-

#

Check back in 3-4 hours?

atomic fable
#

Okay, didn't get it after colo attempts

sudden wadi
#

how much kph does he get?

eager sphinx
#

like 1.2k

sudden wadi
#

also whats your gear?

viscid oyster
eager sphinx
#

nvm just 1k

stable valve
atomic fable
#

I will now for the hourly

eager sphinx
sudden wadi
#

you got 15 minutes

#

take off giants prayer

eager sphinx
#

Does it increase my afk?

#

Taking it off i mean

sudden wadi
#

no i mean just in general

eager sphinx
#

I took it off just was wondering if it did anything to take it off

atomic fable
#

I think the reason is because giant monsters are far stronger

#

It's similar to crystal spawns, which have a lot more stats

#

!crystal

candid scarabBOT
#

The Crystal Monsters are rare mini-boss spawns that have a 1 in 2,000 chance to spawn whenever you actively kill an enemy. It has 15x HP, 30x Exp, 2.5x accuracy required, and does 2.5x more damage than monsters in your current area.

sudden wadi
#

are you able to buy fragments from the w1-2-3 shops?

eager sphinx
#

Me?

sudden wadi
#

yes to redo your states

atomic fable
#

Anyway, I actually did get the baba yaga card twice in colo runs

viscid oyster
eager sphinx
#

Uh I bought w1 already and now w2 as well

#

i mean w3

atomic fable
#

I might as well grind red mushrooms for a bit to work on the dn a bit

eager sphinx
#

I have enough for 1 potion

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I am questioning why i have 3 points in idle skill gains on my combat barb-
Edit: NVM i am blind that is a 0 (Screen is small so I can see discord)

atomic fable
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wait, my mana is falling like crazy

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It nearly used up 1/3 all by itself

eager sphinx
sudden wadi
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remember that thing i sent earlier?

eager sphinx
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Nope

cold wraith
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ayy 24

eager sphinx
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I do not have well memory

cold wraith
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idk what im doing but it keeps going up

cold wraith
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dont

sudden wadi
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why?

cold wraith
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hes trying to trap you and turn you into a communist

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dont fall for it comrade

eager sphinx
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Listen 43 points left

white path
sudden wadi
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shit he found me outGrumbloGhost1 GrumbloGhost2

cold wraith
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not so fast buddy ๐Ÿ‘จโ€๐Ÿฆฝ

atomic fable
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Is it bad I'm using my es for both cards and brief progress on 1m for dn?

cold wraith
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but candied it not active GuyMontag

eager sphinx
atomic fable
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I'm currently activing it

cold wraith
eager sphinx
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I have 43 points left

sudden wadi
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put 15 in meat shank

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and split the rest with sharpened axe and gilded sword

atomic fable
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I think es will gain more progress if you do it actively than afk

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If I'm wrong, correct me

sudden wadi
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your correct

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but later in the game it dosent matter if they afk or active its all the same

eager sphinx
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Hmmm tempting I like a big stick but do I go into sin or double strike

sudden wadi
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put it into big stick

eager sphinx
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We love big sticks

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Bigger stick greater damage

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How much into npng?

sudden wadi
atomic fable
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I got 2 crystal spawns in 15 minutes, wow

eager sphinx
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And how much into Mocking shout

sudden wadi
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1 each