midgame-chat-w3🧊w4🔮

[astral lava]

Ima SS my gains too, wait a sec

[crude moat]

Hmm

[astral lava]

That pic that I took was on Vman, you read that?

[rain scroll]

u think dynamic noob??

[astral lava]

Nah

[rain scroll]

dynamic more pro bro

[astral lava]

I just looked at the other gains

[rain scroll]

ohh

[zenith hare]

15T damage smh

[crude moat]

Mine is also on vman

[astral lava]

He have that leafy prayer unlocked

[crude moat]

I don't play meme

[zenith hare]

:3

[crude moat]

I will disable it ig

[astral lava]

I mean, I don't have it yet

[zenith hare]

it does near nothing

btw this is how much true kills active db gets in a day

[crude moat]

Got it yesterday
It only increase my damage by 3T 💀

[zenith hare]

and it only gets smaller

[astral lava]

What was it's curse?

[zenith hare]

lower defence and acc

[crude moat]

Accuracy and defence

[rain scroll]

what prayer?

oh leaf one

[crude moat]

Which people have plenty

[zenith hare]

i wish it was multi

its additive to all other total damage bonuses though

[rain scroll]

O POG

new bug!

lets go!

cooking speed go brrr

before

[astral lava]

Lol

[rain scroll]

after

[zenith hare]

smol

[crude moat]

Very smol

[high trail]

Rllly smol

[rain scroll]

i mean it did 2x

xD

[crude moat]

No

[zenith hare]

tbh 2x at ur stage is small, unironically

a 10x be bige

[rain scroll]

no worry ima get a 10x now if i cook some things

[crude moat]

I don't even have that vial

[slate parrot]

Yo memebean

Coloured cauldrons, worth it? Which colour do i prioritize first, f2p btw

[zenith hare]

honestly not worth it

I'd say it's a B tier purchase

[slate parrot]

What shld i go for in ur opinion

[rain scroll]

huge for bits gain 😉

i need that cuz i want the slimy

[zenith hare]

if any, first liquid thing

[slate parrot]

Got them

[zenith hare]

you have crystal printer?

[slate parrot]

Yeps, infinity hammer, ritchellin kitchen

[rain scroll]

POG

[rain scroll]

+1 plot

[slate parrot]

Doesnt include w6?

[rain scroll]

hmm??

[astral lava]

That's a w3-4 chat bro

[rain scroll]

we can share some stuff

[astral lava]

Lol

[rain scroll]

just not spam it with it

[slate parrot]

Oh wait mb, i replied to u not meme

[rain scroll]

new stamp btw 🙂

[slate parrot]

No w6?

[zenith hare]

it was made pre w6

most of w6 is very important though

it's all def A tier

[slate parrot]

Anything i shld get?

[zenith hare]

land plots, pristine, summoning bonuses

don't ever buy the skip times though

[rain scroll]

big boost tbh

land plots and summoning bonuses is gem only tho u can get pristines normally too so i wouldnt prio pristine charms

[mint rivet]

gets so damn expensive

[rain scroll]

yea

[zenith hare]

I have found one natural pristine.

and that was literally a week ago

10 months after w6 came out

[exotic swallow]

Pristines are too rare to get them nautrally

[rain scroll]

how big is slimy?

i mean the snail

[astral lava]

Meme, I just realized that using 4 of 1h candies on skilling things are alot better than using 1 4h candy (for early-game)

[slate parrot]

But actually seeing as master classes are coming out, and we already see db boosting farming

[ebon kiln]

level 11 gives me 2.05Kx

[zenith hare]

correct

[astral lava]

Can u guess why?

[slate parrot]

Is spending so much gems worth it

[rain scroll]

yay!

[zenith hare]

rounding

[astral lava]

Then say why

[zenith hare]

game likes to round up

[astral lava]

Not only that

[zenith hare]

it mainly is that

[astral lava]

In afk gains, you can only get 1 obol of every type

[hidden frigate]

How to unlock last territory in breeding

[slate parrot]

Personally i thought ivory cauldrons are better value cuz bubbles basically never end, while summoning and farming and sneaking will end at some point

[zenith hare]

beat the 9 lock at sky doggies

[zenith hare]

bubbles do end

[rain scroll]

ee i have no mail rn i thought ill get all at once sheesh for time i didnt had it

[hidden frigate]

Thanks

[zenith hare]

and summoning never ends, there is infinite summoning

sneaking has 5 mastery levels, people has max got past 3

[slate parrot]

Shroom familiar looks real nice rn

[zenith hare]

and farming you need e150x crop mutate chance

endgamers have e110

[slate parrot]

Wokay, thanks for the input

Time to farm gems w all these doot eyes and stuff ive been hoarding

[rain scroll]

mhmm xD

[zenith hare]

yeah w6 gem shop is expensive

[rain scroll]

very

[pastel shuttle]

What's this necklace that's being recommended ending W3 with?

[zenith hare]

chaotic amarok necklace

it's unlocked in w1 merit shop

[pastel shuttle]

Oh ig that's the recipe after Amarok Helm?

[zenith hare]

ye

[pastel shuttle]

Tyty

[zenith hare]

woop

[scarlet iron]

what does auto refine do

[zenith hare]

it's automatically refines when the power bar fills up to x%

prevents ranking up, which is very helpful

[scarlet iron]

ah ok ty

[sudden wadi]

dont go over board with ranking up your salts

people mess up there salts and it takes a long time to recover

[rain scroll]

u can always rank up but then if u do too much it later becomes more tedious to keep managing salts

[spice ledge]

does waiting around long enough after you kill the massive troll get you anything

[zenith hare]

dialogue

[sudden wadi]

he pushes you out

[spice ledge]

ah think i got it all then

[topaz plover]

Anybody got tips for improving my ES damage? I'm currently using him to grind Death Note kills for the VMan questline, and I've gotten to Sand Giants now. I'm getting about 25k kills an hour, and I have my BB helping out with another 20k, but I know I'm gonna slow down heavy in w3 so I'm looking for some damage upgrades.

Also my Maestro is perfectly fine to get 12 mil g mush kills, he's already got like 3 million

[zenith hare]

funnily enough w3 is one of the easier worlds

their maps have so much more mobs in that ur kph is normally higher

if not similar

[topaz plover]

Does the actual amount affect afk? Cause I'm farming kills afk and I didn't think that affected it

[zenith hare]

it does

[topaz plover]

Oh sick

[zenith hare]

check frogs vs gmush for an easy example

my frog kph is about 1.8x my gmush

due to sheer amount of mobs

you may need to equip some move speed potions though

[topaz plover]

Well is 3 million max damage good for grinding rn? I can get a multikill tier on dedotated Rams so that seems really good

Plus I've been getting more forest souls to level up the deah note itself

[zenith hare]

for now yeah, leave blood bones till last

mk/t is what you mainly want

[topaz plover]

Those guys are past Rams right

[zenith hare]

yeah

[topaz plover]

Yeah so gotta go for the weaker ones first

[rocky granite]

can someone tell me where should i focus to gain more construction rate, i am in w6 with 2 squires, but barely 300k construction rate

[topaz plover]

I'm gonna finish off w2 first, but I'll definitely do bones last

[frail locust]

Does sitting in Cloud Save still bug out trapping's timer?

[topaz plover]

Is there a good way to farm mk obols? I only have one right now

[sudden wadi]

all cogs to exp instead of construction rate

[rocky granite]

they are

but i am getting like very low %, and idk why

average cog xp is around 35-40%

how do i increase that?

[sudden wadi]

have you upgraded call me bob and carpenter in alchemy?

theres also a vial in alchemy with the fish in equinox

[rocky granite]

well not much around 100 both

[zenith hare]

theyre really bad, dont

[rocky granite]

but do they affect cog %?

[zenith hare]

you want mk/t bonuses, not mk bonuses

[zenith hare]

its based on ur highest construction level

[rocky granite]

i see

[zenith hare]

the first one scales on ur tiers, late on that +7%mk/t is actually closer to +350% mk vs death note being 100% at max level

just working on the skulls per world is more then enough

[high trail]

anybody have the pet arena guild?

[zenith hare]

!guide

[candid scarab]

Mid-Late Game guide for World 3 / 4 / 5:
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/e/2PACX-1vSCepYAs6sNDP4iq6MJNAG1pvFXzfC_3IQ7ttt5vfEEKAgQhIk4cQqnLRyeH6UyqDSuP4R-6WQeDmmP/pubhtml
Video Guides (by GriffyBit):
https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLVGSDQs1AcvjYTAPtYV6ofbeeEfHpEcb4

[zenith hare]

the sheet has it

[high trail]

ty

[boreal cave]

At the current rate that I'm going it should be Feb 21st, 2739 when this thing dies....

[pastel shuttle]

Any certain samples I have to get for 3d printing when I just recently unlocked w3? Just sampled mushroom caps but not sure if there's something else that's critical.

[astral lava]

It will easily be less than 1 hour

[astral lava]

What is that build...

[boreal cave]

gmush, copper, iron, flies, butterflies, sentient cereal, oak logs, bleach logs, veiny logs, jungle logs....

[pastel shuttle]

Aah so the more starter resources, ty

[boreal cave]

The recommended build but removing looter and swapping for badadum?

[astral lava]

Yup

[boreal cave]

Looter kept suiciding me.

[astral lava]

U want the skull cursery thing

[boreal cave]

I know, but I failed like 7 times.

It just kept removing all my defense...

[west pilot]

why would you use whale on spice battle

[boreal cave]

https://tenor.com/uZCp.gif

[toxic quartz]

Should you actively try to increase your Mk per tier? is there an effective way to do it?

[high trail]

right now which one is better?

[rain scroll]

up

[exotic swallow]

looter

[high trail]

kk thx guys

[rain scroll]

yep looter one

[boreal cave]

Monolithic is "good" but fuck is it boring

[rocky granite]

can anyone sent theyr trap setups, want to compare to mine

[exotic swallow]

nothing u can do buddy

[sinful vault]

I hate the rift challenge to get the lava skulls....

so RNG heavy

[boreal cave]

Wdym? Of course you can....

[exotic swallow]

Like using a worse setup

[boreal cave]

Rattler, Rattler, Looter, Defender, Double-refiller.

That's the #1 territory setup...

[rain scroll]

ehh?

[sudden wadi]

your going very rng heavy

[exotic swallow]

yuh

[rain scroll]

u dont know if u keep proccing defender

[high trail]

So like this looter setup mostly just rng and spamming retry?

[rain scroll]

it works mostly

[boreal cave]

Yeah, Looter will sometimes kill you off / can be annoying, you also need to time using defender for the first attack of a run

But after that it's full auto and about 50x faster than the monolithic setup.

[high trail]

idk i just timed the first deff and then put auto

[exotic swallow]

use autoreview

it literally tells u what setup u need

[high trail]

Ig i never tried the monolithic setup

[boreal cave]

Correct, the one I'm recommending

[exotic swallow]

fun fact prior that setup it recommends u monolith

[rain scroll]

well thats a new setup im seeing rn

[high trail]

Its only says with 5

[green cloud]

Which is the best class for 2min splicing? Up to W3

[high trail]

but yhe prob i use the right setup

[boreal cave]

All classes are the same / no best. It's based off afk kill count which is skill / gear dependent

[exotic swallow]

this setup is enough to complete the spices above

[boreal cave]

Most people have their best gear on DK or ES.

[green cloud]

Does it count multi kill things like BB?

[exotic swallow]

u can use this setup as well

[high trail]

fair thx

[dense egret]

When should I try to unlock equinox?

[boreal cave]

If you check afk info -> kills / hr, that is all it's based off of.

[high trail]

basicly this setup will also work for like that lvl or its just for a specific lvl?

[plush blade]

is the wiki acting up for everyone else

[boreal cave]

I just did it to do the final territory in the game.

It failed several times (due to rng) but it does massive dps

[high trail]

i meaan sounds like i coud speed run trough with that build

[boreal cave]

When I got my 6th slot and then switched out monolithic, I did like 7 new territories immediately.

My issue rapidly became having enough power to even farm a territory.

[dense egret]

?

[boreal cave]

Right now I can't do the last one....

[boreal cave]

Equinox CAN be done anytime, but like... it isn't a HUGE deal at your level, the first few dreams are sorta lame

[rain scroll]

power shouldnt be an issue tho

just will take more time

[boreal cave]

Hahaha, it is tho....

[rain scroll]

but always good to start asap as it takes time

[boreal cave]

The first 3-4 equinox dreams all sorta suck, and then I actually got stuck for a while and couldn't unlock liquidvestment until late W5 anyways...

[high trail]

ig coud be the same gonna happen to me but i woud rather unlock all the territory and then worry about power

[exotic swallow]

it's meta for last w6 territories, just requires retries.

[dense egret]

So probably should delay it

[rain scroll]

my opinion is get it asap

when it doesnt take too long for u

1-2d is fine not more than that

[boreal cave]

You can unlock it whenever - but you won't get much power out of it initially is my point.

[rain scroll]

but whenever we unlock we progress at same speed

so atleasst we save that time then

[boreal cave]

Yeah, I'm not even really close to being able to do the final territory at this point, but it's nice to have it unlocked....

[high trail]

umm yhe sems you kinda rly rly far away

[rain scroll]

i dont have lullaby airways and dharma mesa "(

if id have them unlocked ill be able to do it

[boreal cave]

I think I need ~70k borgers, I haven't farmed them recently tho

[rain scroll]

mhmm

why a forager on dharma mesa/

use 1 more borger

@boreal cave

[high trail]

idk the last spice setup i saw a yt video they used the red bird guy and i dont remember the rest xD

[exotic swallow]

just look at pinneds for setups

[rain scroll]

now use tsar above

[boreal cave]

Tsar already above

[rain scroll]

3 tsars 1 forager

[high trail]

You mean this one?

[boreal cave]

Ah yeah, that did it

Ty for the second set of eyes @rain scroll

[high trail]

only gonna take about 13day

oh nvm a little les

[boreal cave]

That's fine

[exotic swallow]

yuh

[boreal cave]

Only 1 recipe left anyways

[high trail]

6.25day

[exotic swallow]

you probably wont have enough to forage last territories but use something like this incase

[rain scroll]

only 7d

[rain scroll]

yep

[exotic swallow]

doesnt matter for now

[boreal cave]

I don't even remember what Nyanborgir even does anymore and the wiki is down 😦

[rain scroll]

crop evo

huge

[boreal cave]

Idk why there's 500000000 sources of crop evo

[sudden wadi]

wiki is not down

[boreal cave]

Ah, it was earlier....

Seems sorta shit still tho

[exotic swallow]

pov no css

[boreal cave]

pls load css3, my eyes....

[coarse oasis]

how do i get samples in the 3d printer the star talent just isnt there

[mint rivet]

do ice cream quests

[coarse oasis]

oh ok thx

[exotic swallow]

mid, we got db now

[rain scroll]

its a huge source u will appreciate it

[mint rivet]

you are welcome

[rain scroll]

db will boost it even more

just think..

[boreal cave]

I'm not even pushing evo at the moment tho, just unlocking all land first.

[mint rivet]

does it contain nyancat meat patty?

[rain scroll]

push crops with 1 plot of each

[rain scroll]

idk

[plush blade]

How do i constantly keep the combustion thing fueled?

[rain scroll]

@upbeat cargo how?

[upbeat cargo]

wuh

[rain scroll]

build rate

i also unlocked critter vial but it didnt get too good

[plush blade]

that keeps this going?

[exotic swallow]

No

[iron jay]

i think you told about that

[exotic swallow]

Attacking enemies does

[boreal cave]

No. Fired up just makes you auto faster / unlocks combustion

[thorn cave]

Is there a point to going beyond 200 arena?

[exotic swallow]

no

[bronze crest]

the 3d printer

[atomic fable]

I just unlocked the es elite class, what elite class do I go for next?

[bronze crest]

Do you like AFKing or 'active' afking?

[atomic fable]

The elite classes I have are dk, bubo, bm and es

[bronze crest]

Got the pirate yet? He's kinda fun to watch

[atomic fable]

what one is the pirate?

[plush blade]

can you 3d print mob drops or just gathered resources

like if i wanted the green slime caps

[bronze crest]

the other ranger

[atomic fable]

Oh, I haven't got it yet

[bronze crest]

you can sample those with multi-kill

[upbeat cargo]

get to cyan in summoning

[bronze crest]

As you get further it get's much easier to 'ramp up' afk/automated 3d printer resources. From my understanding you can 3d print almost any drop that isn't a statue or leaf.

[plush blade]

okay so, do i just hit auto kill and then sample?

[bronze crest]

just hit sample

[junior karma]

Do I get boss keys every character per day, or per account per day?

[rain scroll]

im rn at red

[rain scroll]

how can i speed up summoning??

[plush blade]

66 p/hr that is a lot lower than i thought

[bronze crest]

You can upgrade stuff to make it better, think of it as a logorythmic function.

Little dominos adding up to make bigger ones fall. Also i think you can upgrade the 3d printer to make it better, i forget if that makes the samples bigger... Had it maxed for awhile.

[magic marten]

Is it worth it to get the new cardifier from the card shop? Or should i wait for ruby from rift. If i should buy it which cards do i use them on?

[bronze crest]

There's better things to spend gems on than ruby cardifiers.

[atomic fable]

I can see that es is very useful for mob drops

especially because of this talent, right?

[magic marten]

Thanks

[magic marten]

Yeah it is but the mobs hp will scale the higher the number on the portal is

[bronze crest]

yes

but the alternate archer gives...

[upbeat cargo]

I think the Justice bonus is what got me there quickly

which I unlocked by respeccing all my Opals into Explorer

[atomic fable]

Oh, I've been noticing that

Do I level that talent up as high as I can for the increased dr from the portal?

[jovial bear]

What damage do I need to start pushing w3?

[atomic fable]

Ooh, so that can become supportive

the es class variant of that is damage to all characters (Multiplicative)

[upbeat cargo]

as long as you can hit the sheeps and survive just keep going

[jovial bear]

Ok

[bronze crest]

Yeah, the elemental sorc, the devine knight, and the pirate all have skills like that.

You have to active afk on them, but no big deal.

[atomic fable]

Should I try to max out the portal 1st then that skill?

[bronze crest]

just make sure you have enough invintory space to last around 2k seconds for the 'send all my loot home' skill.

up to you, the pirate doesn't get a portal

[atomic fable]

Oh

[bronze crest]

He gets a chance to summon a mini-boss type thing.

[atomic fable]

and dk has the orb

[bronze crest]

the higher that skill the more loot the mini-boss drops. But the more HP it gets too

Where i had him sitting if i soawned a mini-boss i'd have to focus it or i'd never really notice it's HP moving.

but i didn't do my deliveries correctly to min-max my k/h

[atomic fable]

I have the portal now last for 53 seconds, is this good for now?

[bronze crest]

Should do good for awhile.

[atomic fable]

Alright

[bronze crest]

Lemme check mine...

mines 85 secinds and with a max cooldown buff from the magic boxes of w2 it's almost got no downtime.

[atomic fable]

Oh, Nice

I have around 45% uptime?

[bronze crest]

idk, did you max out magic boxes in w2 for reduced skill timers?

[inland vine]

Guys any ideas on estimating es active kph?

[atomic fable]

I don't know if I have that box yet or not

[bronze crest]

it's a default box.

[atomic fable]

This came out of nowhere!

[rain scroll]

oo

[atomic fable]

I was just grinding portal kills

[atomic fable]

Oh, I don't think I have it leveled up high enough

[atomic fable]

Okay, then I don't

yeah, I don't have that box maxed

[bronze crest]

dang, gotta find some boxes for my guy

[bronze crest]

no, sorry.

[rain scroll]

do mana/drop those r good

[atomic fable]

I've not hit the point yet of farming pens yet

[rain scroll]

also do respective skilling one

[rain scroll]

very easy when u get chocochip

[bronze crest]

i do, also did the whole top row for my main guy.

[atomic fable]

I only have around 100 boxes as of right now total

[toxic quartz]

Should you actively try to increase your Mk per tier? is there an effective way to do it?

[royal lion]

when should I activate the atom thingy ?

Im starting to need it for alchemy

[serene pecan]

Is this bugged?

[west pilot]

Did you check the deathnote?

[serene pecan]

like 10x

[west pilot]

Cloudsave

[west pilot]

Set it to 1050M

You'll make use of them when you can produce over that with prints

[bronze crest]

I remember i turned mine on for a low number to start.

[royal lion]

can I send a screenshot of my prints?

[west pilot]

You kill your stack for other stuff and you are not prepared for production amyways

[atomic fable]

Should I upgrade wormhole emperor on the attacking setup as well?

[bronze crest]

It was a long while ago, since then i hit the magical ramp point and set to 1050m and let it print.

idk what you're asking cupcake

[atomic fable]

I'm asking if I should upgrade this talent

[pine fiber]

dont think it matters early, you can definitely do it a bit later

[royal lion]

Idk if im getting to that point but I went from like 1m copper print to like 8 in a couple of day

[bronze crest]

Yeah, it'll be bonus damage for leaving your ES to kill things while you're doing normal stuff

[atomic fable]

Alright

[bronze crest]

yeah, unless you're smelting all the copper you should be good to set a 1050m

[royal lion]

yeah did that now

I also enhanced pocket divinity so I have the bear for lab and harriep for 3x prints

[bronze crest]

GL idlers

[zenith hare]

no

not till you have the 1mill kills done basically

[atomic fable]

Wait a minute, why is my normal mobs respawning faster and faster?

[bronze crest]

cause portal

[zenith hare]

per portal mob killed, you respawn ab 4 regular mobs

[atomic fable]

is that passive (While active)?

[zenith hare]

only while youre killing portal mobs

and they are actually dying

[atomic fable]

I can average around 70-80 per portal usage

with sand pots

[bronze crest]

takes a bit to go away, my ES has to wait like an extra 30+ seconds after his portal dies to run out of 'respawn buffer'

[zenith hare]

upgrade mana PO box to lower that time

[bronze crest]

told him already

[atomic fable]

I might need to soon consider crystal farming

[pine fiber]

doesnt hurt to get told twice

[bronze crest]

good point

[pine fiber]

if your name checks out, I doubt you have to worry about crystals

and you wont farm crystals on ES anyway

or atleast thats not efficiently done

[atomic fable]

True, I think it's better to use dk for that?

[pine fiber]

dk/vman, definitely, even bubo with high enough tent

but without choco chip, it'll hurt a lot

[sonic lagoon]

Which one I buy?

[atomic fable]

I think the good thing about farming the portal for a bit is that it helps dn, right?

[bronze crest]

isn't there a bot command for gem shop upgrades?

#bot-commands

[pine fiber]

once you have atleast 1m kills on portal, like Bean mentioned, sure

[west pilot]

Not for limited

[atomic fable]

It'll take quite a while to grind to 1m kills on the portal

[bronze crest]

it's not much of a % bonus is what they're saying

[pine fiber]

yeah most likely

but you'll do a lot of ES grinding for alchemy mats and 1/20k rares anyway

[west pilot]

Don't focus that thing

[bronze crest]

I'd put a point in it if you have a point to spare, just don't expect a massive jump in damages, it's a slow ramp.

[west pilot]

You get the 1M overtime

Not really hard with ES, you'll use it a lot

[bronze crest]

farming on my DK feels more tedious.

[atomic fable]

true, especially since I'd likely be using it to farm out 1/20k drops like glass shards

[pine fiber]

yeah, nuget cakes, etc

it'll get there eventually

[atomic fable]

I don't have a ton of drop rate cards

[bronze crest]

oh speaking of the chocolate cake drops from crabs

ES is how i got the hat BP

[pine fiber]

do your doots, his card is great

[hot oracle]

Does anyone have a alchemy guide? I keep seeing people with 3k lv alch bubbles while mine are only 170ish....no idea what im doing wrong

[bronze crest]

just sat spamming the purple 'i'm gonna get you' arcane whatever.

Those're people deep into w6 and probably very far along in other world skills.

[west pilot]

Alchemy is pretty much slow early and ramp up later

[pine fiber]

yeah thats a lot of atoms spent

[atomic fable]

Do you think I should not bother with atoms until I reach around 1m+ on prints?

[west pilot]

Atoms and hourly clicking just overboosts alchemy

[pine fiber]

1m prints are not nearly enough for atoms

[bronze crest]

Oh yeah that's why i like the bubo.

[atomic fable]

true

[west pilot]

When you can make 1050M consistent stacks

[atomic fable]

Okay, so atoms is more mid-late game thing

[pine fiber]

yeah

it's nice to get them going, but dont hardfocus

[bronze crest]

i've almost no clue how to measure these things as i'm never in the discord.

[pine fiber]

you want your towers and shrines leveled first

[bronze crest]

but i can tell a whale when i see one.

[pine fiber]

?

[bronze crest]

Never heard the term?

[pine fiber]

bruh

[west pilot]

Most whale accounts have terrible neglects tbf

[pine fiber]

you can be a whale and mess up your account anyway

[bronze crest]

[pine fiber]

jesus christ

[west pilot]

That's what happens usually

[bronze crest]

Oh ik, it's not a money game. It's a thinking game.

[west pilot]

Nah

[pine fiber]

obviously it does, they think their money solves everything and look dumbfounded when they get oneshot in w6 cuz they could speedrun w1-w5

[west pilot]

The game has really overpowered pack stuff

That makes you no brain

Usually that ends up in neglect

[pine fiber]

sacred methods

[atomic fable]

I think other than autoloot, I think staying f2p helps learn the game a lot more

[west pilot]

Up to what you want to do

[atomic fable]

Considering what you said, the game has very op pack stuff

[bronze crest]

And using/abusing it will leave you stonewalled later due to a lack of foundation.

[west pilot]

Still depends on the person, there's whale people that are nerds and plain braindead

[atomic fable]

I see

[crude tulip]

Is there any secret to getting trapping levels? I'm using 8h natural traps 2-3 times a day for full xp and most of my chars are around 97, so very far away from level 120 for godshard traps.

[exotic swallow]

yuh

[atomic fable]

I got 1 glass shard!

while using my es

[west pilot]

Nature traps with maestro transfusion and balance of proficiency

[bronze crest]

You can use a vman to XP ramp with his +XP/-eff.

[atomic fable]

That didn't take as long as I thought to get 1 glass shard tbh

[bronze crest]

Got the stamp that eats them yet?

[crude tulip]

That only counts for maestro though, doesn't it?

Or does it count for all if you place traps with maestro?

[bronze crest]

Heard it was all traps from the trapper bot.

[atomic fable]

I think I got like 4 crystal spawns trying to go for glass shards

[bronze crest]

may've changed/been incorrect.

[crude tulip]

I'll test that, thanks.

[sudden wadi]

what do you need the glass shard for?

[atomic fable]

for the efficiency gear

[sudden wadi]

oh the 5 extra % on the wiz hat?

[atomic fable]

yeah and I think the mining hat uses it too if I remember right?

[pine fiber]

all the skilling helmets do afaik

catching, chopping and mining

[atomic fable]

yeah, they do

so I have quite a lot to do if I want to maximise their efficiency for prints

[pine fiber]

well, make sure they have the skilling gear on, rex rings, better if serrated ones, highest tools upgraded with the highest available world stones, for snapshotting you can also equip food

[atomic fable]

yeah, I might do mining next because of my dk

since I got it higher printing rate

[pine fiber]

oh and if you dont mind farming out a few cards, do the easy resources card set asap

[atomic fable]

Actually, should I do that before reprints?

I can dedicate my 2 wizard to farm those log based cards

[pine fiber]

I mean, it takes a while to level your cards, especially early on

[atomic fable]

true

[pine fiber]

just make sure to check back on it every once in a while, maybe use a few candies if you dont need many cards

tbf if you have ES, you could start farming a few cards

[atomic fable]

I think 1 card I should try to max out is this one

This would help efficiency and gain progress on Easy Resources

[pine fiber]

ah yeah the very first few resources are not bad to farm

[sudden wadi]

get the alien tree card in w4 map 4

[fossil hatch]

Maybe I’m not thinking of something here, but I still haven’t figured out why my meals aren’t getting anything, any thoughts? Perhaps I’m missing something

[pine fiber]

wdym not getting anything?

[atomic fable]

I can start to work on that on my bubo

[fossil hatch]

@dusty apex I am sorry for @ you here, but you’ve helped me a lot when I needed help like this lmao. I tend to forget

^

This Muta

[atomic fable]

Actually, do I temporarily only keep 3 characters for the printer boost and move some of my characters to go for the easy resource cards?

[fossil hatch]

still here, hasnt went up at all

[pine fiber]

where do you get the daily kitchen upgrades again?

huh, have you tried using a ladle to check?

[fossil hatch]

Yes

40k worth of ladles Infact : )

[pine fiber]

hooly

[sudden wadi]

cooking speed fast enough

[pine fiber]

yeah probably

[fossil hatch]

maybe

[pine fiber]

have you checked IT yet? how many ladles do you need for cannoli next lvl?

[fossil hatch]

None

[pine fiber]

isnt your meal max leveled?

[fossil hatch]

Or, technically like 2

[pine fiber]

I'm really reaching right now, dunno what the cause could be

[fossil hatch]

But I get more then that in a 2 min claim lmao

[atomic fable]

Do you guys think it's worth it to move my bubo to the easy resource trees and begin card grinding those trees?

[fossil hatch]

No

[atomic fable]

since it has over 600k efficiency

[pine fiber]

book your logs on logs on every mage

[fossil hatch]

Max meal is at 90 atm

[sudden wadi]

get your es to actively farm card % cards first

[fossil hatch]

Cannoli is at 62

[atomic fable]

Alright, then go for the logs?

[pine fiber]

oh

[sudden wadi]

after yes

[pine fiber]

logs on logs is only for prints tho, but its definitely nice to have

you could leave your mages at trees, see how many cards they get and check back in an hour or so

[sudden wadi]

but the higher your card % is the faster youll get the cards you need

that includes the card % cards

[atomic fable]

Okay, 1st one I can focus on is giga frogs (W1)

[rugged kiln]

Wouldnt Maestro be the best one because Jman has a talent for card percent?

[pine fiber]

dont think they have maestro yet

[atomic fable]

I have maestro

[pine fiber]

oh you do?

then yeah, max out your card drop chance

and blast away

you'll want your vman with the highest w1-w3 skilling levels anyway

[atomic fable]

It does have a lot less damage know, so getting the later world cards might take ages

[fossil hatch]

Perhaps I’m wrong

[sudden wadi]

no becuase of the respawn and dr that es gives out weights those abilitys

use es

[fossil hatch]

but this is alot of ladles for one level mmm hahahaha

[atomic fable]

I think I 100% should use my maestro for the easy resource cards, but my es for the mob cards

[sudden wadi]

im talking for the card% not for resources

[pine fiber]

yeah void, thats gonna take a lot of ladles

[fossil hatch]

Nah ong I got that for sure

[atomic fable]

yeah, you want respawn and dr I'm pretty sure for card farming

[north compass]

might take a bit of time, not too bad

[fossil hatch]

That’s definitely worth going for tho

100% worth the extra 5 points

[north compass]

definitely

[fossil hatch]

Game changing upgrade

Possibly breaking wave 300

[fossil hatch]

Just want to point out, every meal is having this problem

And nothing fixes it(that I’ve tried)

[white path]

whats the problem

[pine fiber]

bravery cooking speed diff

[fossil hatch]

Look back through my ss

[atomic fable]

is it better to run full card% chance > drop rate increases

if going for cards

[fossil hatch]

You’ll see the problem

[sudden wadi]

run both but card % is better then dr

[north compass]

very slow cooking speed thats the problem

[atomic fable]

Alright

Do I max this skill on my es?

[sudden wadi]

yes

[pine fiber]

yeah

[fossil hatch]

This problem started happening after I put ribbons on meals

[atomic fable]

Alright

[north compass]

did you change your vman talents

[fossil hatch]

Then it started to get fucked up 😅 😂

[fossil hatch]

Uhh, mmm. No?

[north compass]

thats the only thing that could possibly be that big

[pine fiber]

what she said

[fossil hatch]

It’s going up by 0.1 every 10 seconds

It’s making a difference, but not a noticeable one ☠️

[white path]

I have a ribbon on it but the amount of ladles seems fine

[fossil hatch]

Perhaps a vman diff

well, so be it

I’ll just wait for it to fix LMAO

[atomic fable]

does mk affect drop chance for cards?

[pine fiber]

jesus christ thats sooo big

[rugged kiln]

Oh yeah I didn’t even think of that, duh

[fossil hatch]

The amount of ladles or the attack %?

[atomic fable]

This could be a good time to work on levelling up my es to 100?

since it's going to be used a lot for mob drops and that

[pine fiber]

the attack % 🥵

[fossil hatch]

He prolly already hit the cap half way through the meal ☠️

[pine fiber]

my cauli is only at 25% 😭

cant even call this a rookie number

this is below rookie number

[sturdy totem]

anyone know how I could place these toons to get these bonuses but with 6 characters instead of 7? and what line width/level I need?

[pine fiber]

place your bubo on the leftmost and max your lab width passive

get souped up tubes

meals

or just let them lvl in lab

[sudden wadi]

why do you need it to be 6?

[fossil hatch]

John guess what

[pine fiber]

I guess they have 7 characters and want to push with 1

[sudden wadi]

no matter what they have to stay in there for a long time anyways

[fossil hatch]

im almost mid game on db

[sturdy totem]

I have 8, one is pushing w4 already but I want another one to go out and either farm for materials for better equipment for my pusher or be able to put BB in the kitchen

[atomic fable]

I have a similar situation where I need 6 for nblb

[pine fiber]

bb is probably too early for kitchen anyways

[sturdy totem]

too early?

[pine fiber]

how many ladles do you get per day

[sudden wadi]

yes

[sturdy totem]

15

[pine fiber]

yeah, just let him stay in lab

[sturdy totem]

what could raise the number of ladles per day? isnt it just cooking levels?

[pine fiber]

cooking efficiency

afk gain

[sturdy totem]

with two cooking rings I can raise it up to 30

[pine fiber]

you could farm 2 rings and a shoe for him, dunno if that'll change much

[sudden wadi]

you could optimize everything and maybe get to it in 6 but i would personally sacrifice the damage node and get the others in 6

[sturdy totem]

hmm

[sudden wadi]

or just leave out killers brightside for now but your pushing will be slower for a while

[sturdy totem]

I'd rather have it than damage but ideally I'd get both lol

[pine fiber]

check how much damage you have without the first node

if you dont have many pets unlocked, you can leave it disconnected

[atomic fable]

the 1st node in lab would only give me +5%

[pine fiber]

killer's brightside is too good tho

[atomic fable]

so for me, it's not worth connecting it I think

[sudden wadi]

its based on breeding

which is pretty time gated and rng related

[pine fiber]

yeah it always comes down to checking your stats if it's even worth it

[atomic fable]

I think the good thing with going for my glass shards is it helps fuel the blue salts

since I'm getting a lot of pocket sands

[pine fiber]

ah yeah pocket sand

[sudden wadi]

if you have a open spot get your bm to print sand

[sturdy totem]

It's like a 150k difference for max damage

[pine fiber]

I dunno how much damage you have to begin with

[sturdy totem]

900k-2.5M

[pine fiber]

I think connecting to brightside does more than connecting to animal farm

or whatever that node's called

[sudden wadi]

your correct

[atomic fable]

I'm so close with my es to reaching a mk tier on sandy pots

but I'm like 4k damage short 😦

[pine fiber]

once you do your w2 pets or reaching into w3, you'll obviously reconnect to the first node

but rn it's not a priority

[pine fiber]

have you tried leveling your wisdom/damage bubbles

[sturdy totem]

aight, thanks

[sturdy totem]

yep gonna do that rn

[atomic fable]

I think I can level them up a bit

[sturdy totem]

ty all

[sudden wadi]

if it dosent work just disconnect brightside or live with it untill your connection range is high enough

[sturdy totem]

yee

[sudden wadi]

and make sure your bubo is the very left character

muta how far are you through the game?

[atomic fable]

Just got it thanks to talents

I also did level up the multikill per tier bubble a little bit (by 1 level I think)

[sudden wadi]

a lvl is a lvl

[atomic fable]

That is true, that might be in nblb range now (It's level 5)

unless it's a w4 bubble

[pine fiber]

I dipped my toes into w5, catching up with everything rn tho

[atomic fable]

which if that's true, then nvm

[sudden wadi]

i see

got div running yet?

[pine fiber]

ah yeah I've got everything till Purrmep now, doing the last stretch of 75/40 jail

after that idk, I felt kinda comfy that I only had to actively manage 2-3 characters

[atomic fable]

I should try to level the cooking roadkill bubble into nblb range

as it's going to be very strong mid game

[pine fiber]

meh, you'll have enough toilet paper for that when you start doing CC anyway

[atomic fable]

true

[pine fiber]

I leveled mine easily up to 188

[atomic fable]

Oh Nice

[pine fiber]

could still go much further

but you'll get huge prints anyway

[atomic fable]

true, I have that print at 10k atm

[sudden wadi]

just to make sure you got your vman correct?

[atomic fable]

it's in the lab right now so it's 20k

[sudden wadi]

and you know you can buy more then 5 boats becuase alot of people dont know that

[pine fiber]

ah yeah

trying to get more damage for him, actually

vman damage 💀

[atomic fable]

Finally got my 2nd glass shard

I did eventually place my drop rate shine, and it took like 20 minutes or so after that

[pine fiber]

place all your shrines in w4

due to lab jail

[atomic fable]

It'll mean I'll not get that buff, but I'll do that

[pine fiber]

you'll connect to the lab node anyway

for ES it doesnt really matter imo, especially early lvl drop shrine

you get more by having more damage + leveling up your wormhole

[atomic fable]

Alright

Like this?

[pine fiber]

that ramps significantly better than having a drop shrine that only levels if you spend afk time there

yup

there'll be something later in w6 that'll allow you to freely move shrines without them losing xp

[atomic fable]

Alright

[pastel knoll]

How do I get the fish head stamp?

[pine fiber]

you'll eventually replace your shrines into w5 when you do your first stretch of divinity tho, so dont worry

[pine fiber]

cattleprod, but wiki is up again if you wanna check stuff

[atomic fable]

I have some afk time buffered right now from an earlier session

12+ hours on each one in lab

[pine fiber]

nvm, wiki is still borked 💀

yeah thats huge

it'll be massive once you can connect to the shrine node in lab, it'll speed up your w4 progression nicely

and once you get Bear god, same goes for w5 progression

[burnt vortex]

no its just really slow lol

[burnt vortex]

massive?

[pine fiber]

potato potato

[burnt vortex]

🤑 😏

[pine fiber]

well yeah, you get droprate, hp, damage, capacity % etc etc

[atomic fable]

That gave me like 25k pocket sand

from doing that grinding session for 2 glass shards

[pine fiber]

wormhole dr is huge

[atomic fable]

I think I'll be using es for active farming if not pushing

[burnt vortex]

boss gem grinding is mind numbing

[pine fiber]

on ES you could focus mana box for cd reduction

[burnt vortex]

https://tenor.com/view/patrick-star-confused-huh-wtf-gif-20911403

[pine fiber]

which also gives you dam thru mana

[atomic fable]

Speaking of post office

[pine fiber]

I've been wanting to resample my fish for a good 30mins if not more

[atomic fable]

I had 1 for pocket sand, so there we go 🙂

and 1 for glass shards...

Oh come on...

[pine fiber]

dont do the rare drop po boxes yet

[atomic fable]

Alright

Do I put all 24 boxes on mana?

[pine fiber]

yeah I guess

[atomic fable]

It's not enough to reach the skill cooldown

[pine fiber]

you'll want the chopping box too eventually

yeah I know

[atomic fable]

but it's better than nothing, once I get mana to 100, I'll get chopping to 100

[teal zenith]

come to w4 grommit 20

[atomic fable]

then alternate

[teal zenith]

come :)))

[outer harness]

oneofus oneofus

[atomic fable]

Thanks for the achievement 🙂

[pine fiber]

you'll ramp your po boxes once you can farm crystals anyway

[atomic fable]

Got breeding level 8!

And got round 6 completed on my 1st try, is that good?

[sudden wadi]

once your able to get to round 8 for that 1.2x damage

but yes thats good on your first try

you have a extra pet slot now

[topaz plover]

Would it be worth it to unlock the Equinox Dreams now that I've got all 6 Elite Classes? I put it off because Rams need 250k kills just to unlock the next portal, but I've got enough damage to have multikill proc on them, so I'm not sure

[sudden wadi]

if your just "beginning" world 4 then no there's not much point

the things it wants you to do are very hard to complete at your stage of the game

[topaz plover]

Well I've been in w4 for like a month and a half, so I'm not really just beginning

I haven't done much pushing except on my Maestro for talent points from class levels, but I do have a decent amount of progress

[burnt vortex]

anyone else get these weird crashes where ur entire screen becomes black and u can only see ur chars moving? usually happens to me during worship or pet arena

[sudden wadi]

im pretty sure these are the first couple challenges youll have to complete

[atomic fable]

Cleared the 5th round on forage maps

Surprised using my 91 frog made the difference

[topaz plover]

They don't seem too bad

Greenstacks might take a while, but I have crystal printer and the double prints lab bonus

[sudden wadi]

then go for it

[pine fiber]

went from this to this

[topaz plover]

And a 1mil print is a bit annoying

[pine fiber]

talk about neglect xd

[sudden wadi]

youll have to do it later anyways

[topaz plover]

But everything else is fine

Guess I'm doing it now

It'll make the 1 million w3 mob grind for Vman a little easier later on if I do this now too

Win-win scenario

[atomic fable]

since I have my shrines on w4 now, do I unequip it on my attacks?

[sudden wadi]

when was the last time you did your prints

[sudden wadi]

just dont touch it and youll be fine

[atomic fable]

Alright

I can maybe move it to the 3rd set

[pine fiber]

you dont wanna know 💀

oh and btw I havent even booked my talents, doing them again in a bit, didnt have the right god on, gear either

[topaz plover]

That reminds me, I really need to redo my prints with my new tools and talents

I kinda just forgot my prints existed after my month long break lol

[atomic fable]

I don't need to worry about mp regen rate since I have 2k mana on my es

[sudden wadi]

you will so i would still get it

[topaz plover]

I'd say use at least one mana potion

[atomic fable]

Alright

[topaz plover]

Preferably at least average

[atomic fable]

I can equip it since I was on giga frogs map and it dropped

[topaz plover]

I thought I'd be fine on mana, and then I ran out while farming for giftmas and that sucked

[pine fiber]

anyway

[atomic fable]

Autoloot is very helpful when using es since I'm pretty sure it'd get laggy pretty quickly otherwise

Most card drop rate I can reach with cards is +44%

I'm ngl, I think autoloot was a good purchase considering I'm already doing partial rare drop / card grinding

[sudden wadi]

whats your fishing eff

[atomic fable]

Changed my attack bar so portal is used asap while auto is on

along with my strongest attacks

[pine fiber]

sec, still minmaxing what I can for now

[mossy tapir]

can i do wave 200 with a 30k burger?

[sudden wadi]

probably

wouldnt suggest it tho

[atomic fable]

For giga frogs (For card grinding) should I turn off the food drops?

or leave them on

[pine fiber]

yeah you could

even for the horns if you dont need them rn

[sudden wadi]

i usually turn off everything except money

[pine fiber]

dont forget to check your pop obols every once in a while

[atomic fable]

Once I use the chest, I might disable the more common ones

I will leave the pop obol drop chance however

[pine fiber]

yeah you'll need those anyway

[atomic fable]

Should I disable the bronze wiz obol?

or leave that enabled

[pine fiber]

nah, fragments

[atomic fable]

Alright, so leave that enabled for fragment reasons?

[pine fiber]

yeah

[atomic fable]

Alright

[pine fiber]

you wanna get some pop obols going for now, later you'll wanna farm double sixes in w2

and dont upgrade pop obols above silver, not worth it

[atomic fable]

Alright, what about tool upgrade stones? (It's tier 2)

and bottled town teleports

[pine fiber]

@sudden wadi my roo is kinda scuffed, this is what I got rn

I wish I had enough mats to upgrade that to 300%

[sudden wadi]

i mean its not bad

[pine fiber]

it'll be done soon anyway with the new hermit print

[atomic fable]

Is it worth disabling the tool upgrade stones?

[pine fiber]

yeah

[atomic fable]

Alright

[pine fiber]

you dont want anything below w4 stones anyway

[atomic fable]

That leaves only the statues and the town bottle teleports

[pine fiber]

w4, w5, w6

[atomic fable]

for the rare drops active

[hidden violet]

Just reached W5 😄

[pine fiber]

div jail letsgo

[atomic fable]

and for mega rare, I've only disabled the mystery upgrade stones

since I don't think that's useful, right?

[sudden wadi]

then back to lab jail

[pine fiber]

well, once you unlock goat, yeah, back to w4

[hidden violet]

I kinda enjoy the jails tbh. Less to manage haha

[pine fiber]

until then, w5 jail

[pine fiber]

yeah dude same you grow to enjoy it

[sudden wadi]

you want those stones

there used for stamps

[atomic fable]

Oh

the mystery ones or the tool ones?

[hidden violet]

Frrr! I hated lab so much when I started throwing characters in and grew to love it after a few days

[pine fiber]

gained 130k more hermit cans, nice

[atomic fable]

Ooh, so you want the mystery upgrade stones for stamps, got it

[shrewd crow]

can someone help whit P

[atomic fable]

Should I go for 2* or try to go higher? (I need 7 cards for 2*)

for giga frogs

[sudden wadi]

get all 3 cards to 2 star

then go back to giga frogs and do it again for 3 star

and again for 4

[atomic fable]

Alright, so get them in order: 2* -> 3* -> 4*?

I get why actually, doing all 3 to the 2* will make it easier and easier, right?

[sudden wadi]

yes but get all three cards to that lvl before moving to the next

you need more cards the higher the lvl

[atomic fable]

True, that too

[dusty apex]

You talking about the meals not going up at all? Did you forget vman blood marrow

[fossil hatch]

I was missing about 60 points into it? But it didn’t make much of a difference when I put them in

Also, idk when I got an extra 60 points for the talent, guess I just haven’t been playing enough to realize lmao

[dusty apex]

Yea that talent works so well once you lower the talent level cooking pretty much stops

[atomic fable]

After those to 4*, I think I could get my easiest cards to 2 stars to make them easier for their set bonuses

I can almost rank up green salts already?!

[sudden wadi]

yes, dr cards too

[sudden wadi]

or crystal

[atomic fable]

I think the order I can do it is card% then dr cards?

Okay, at this point, I've disabled the common drop from giga frogs

I hit the cap for inventory

[pine fiber]

alright, this resampling was refreshing I've also hit a new breakpoint in cooking, kinda nice, wont be enough for equinox tho

[burnt vortex]

wher do i find honkers

[hidden violet]

With divinity am I going to be in jail until I unlock a certain god?

[sleek stone]

This talent good for pushing?

[pine fiber]

yeah, you wanna max your squire first and foremost

[sleek stone]

So that orb didnt stay for so long

[pine fiber]

orb is nice and but not prio

[sleek stone]

Ahhh

So that talent really good ah

Gonna reset aftet the reset

[pine fiber]

I mean yeah its good, you'll eventually reach a level where you can use it 24/7

but not while progressing in w4

[sleek stone]

Okay so go full dmg?

[gleaming trout]

How many buckets to summon all my slush mini boss again??

i need do them man been days

[pine fiber]

idk, how many slush you have, check it

1 box for 1 slush

[sleek stone]

You can check it

[gleaming trout]

i got 8 i need to kill how many buckets i need?

[sleek stone]

8

[gleaming trout]

Oh 1 per boss? got it

[sleek stone]

Yeah

[cold wraith]

you need one bucket and it will spawn all of them at once

[pine fiber]

so its different for slush?

[cold wraith]

which miniboss makes you do multiple

[pine fiber]

mutated?

[cold wraith]

same thing for w4 miniboss you just need to drop one barrel and it spawns all of the

[gleaming trout]

Thank you guys going build up my orb rq and try to kill it

[pine fiber]

💀

jesus christ I swear I read it somewhere that you need 1:1

[cold wraith]

ive never needed to

[pine fiber]

💀 goddamn misinformation 💀

[cold wraith]

i always grab either one bucket or barrel and drop it

have you ever done it yourself

[pine fiber]

nah, always brought as many as I had bosses at the moment

[cold wraith]

oh

[pine fiber]

xd great, thanks waffle

[cold wraith]

i cant say 100% for w4 but im highly confident its just one

its just that i get more barrels while stacking orb

[pine fiber]

@sudden wadi I got a few omni pops, look what I have after resampling

[cold wraith]

😈

[eager sphinx]

So I am sorta new, but not so new to the game and I sorta just feel like all my characters are moving slower through the game than they should be. Also I lack talent reset potion. I have looked at some videos for some info like I should start into alchemy, but aside from that idk what really to do lol

I am in world 3

[pine fiber]

waffle dabbing on us plebs

[cold wraith]

yea def do alchemy, at the very minimum just have each character go to the cauldron in w2 town and place them in a color cauldron so that they can start building level

and w3 you can push with barbarian or hunter active because of the respawn ability

for account progress you want to get to the next world as fast as you can so that you unlock more skills that are timegated

its recommended to push to w6 asap and then backtrack and fix things on your account

[eager sphinx]

Yeah I just feel like I am pushing my barbarian through w3 its at the snowmans

[cold wraith]

thats perfectly fine

[eager sphinx]

God I am mixing messages-

I didnt mean I feel like I am because that is what I was doing. I just feel like I am running slow on stats end

[sleek stone]

Sheesh

[cold wraith]

you can fix that with a lot of things like alchemy, stamps, owl/roo (clickers), stoines

specifically the first bubble of every cauldron

[sleek stone]

You just need time

[cold wraith]

you can also upgrade skilling bubbles and start using the 3d printer once you unlock slots

[sleek stone]

No need to rush you aint racin with no one

[cold wraith]

but yea focus on pushing to w4 as of the moment and keep red salts in refinery at 0% autorefine

[gleaming trout]

No need to save my slush skills right?

[cold wraith]

nope

they are terrible

only real reason you need them for is this and this is an anvil 5 craft that most people dont even craft until w6 because of the crazy nullo salt requirement

[sleek stone]

Btw talent guide for Dk in idleontoolbox are good?

[eager sphinx]

Yeah just having slow liquid which I think is normal

[cold wraith]

lowk think its outdated i just use the google sheet one

[cold wraith]

yea liquid will always be low which is why you should use itw when you can

[sleek stone]

Damn

[cold wraith]

it only starts ramping up when you get to mid/late w5 and can active bubo

[eager sphinx]

Yeah I have all 6 characters with 3d printer if ya need I can screenshot my stuff to see whats right and wrong

[sleek stone]

You have some build when lv 100 on dk?

What need to focus on

[cold wraith]

do you have the crystal printer in gem shop

[eager sphinx]

Yeah it never reached the cap for me since I use it fast

[cold wraith]

i use this https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/e/2PACX-1vST3HcgBgeq8H9jztaMhUXZAAAHl120PvDVo_48qJpn6n9qnpa-TWmuG_kN9cmtr66M-OtO482XIOAk/pubhtml#

[eager sphinx]

Mhm fortunately I do

[cold wraith]

thats good

[cold wraith]

you know which class prints what right and which talents boosts prints

[eager sphinx]

No not really let me screenshot some of my stuff

[cold wraith]

you can use the talent spreadsheet i linked right above

[sleek stone]

Yeah use that but not that optimal on fighting

[eager sphinx]

Oh I cant send screenshots... of

[cold wraith]

!image

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[eager sphinx]

Uh yeah I used a vid on my barbarian

[sleek stone]

Sincei out some on construction exp and red salt

[cold wraith]

then skip it

[eager sphinx]

Ah thank you

[steady cove]

Been trying the comps in the guide sheet to clear 115 pet battle for the equinox cloud, but I keep falling way short. Already cleared 200, but I've unlocked a few other pets that make looter not a viable choice. Is it RNG/Shield timing to get it right, or is there a 'lolpetsgobrrr' combo that is full auto?

[cold wraith]

if you dont have enough talent points

[sleek stone]

Ahh so go for dmg?

[ocean path]

anyone know a good strat to start getting frigid soul. I've got no problem with the 3 first shrines but i cant get past the first wave on the 4th shrine. Im not below wave 40 on any of the others. What am i doing wrong

[cold wraith]

peapod unlock makes everything easy. if you dont have and need to use rattler its all rng

[sleek stone]

I have 2 DK tho so

[cold wraith]

yea it works eventually youll have enough talent points

[cold wraith]

what does that change

[sleek stone]

1 for cons 1 for pushing

[cold wraith]

get higher boulder level in construction until you get poisonic unlocked

[gleaming trout]

jesus i forgot how strong DK orb is when u kill mini bosses

[steady cove]

Peapod?

[cold wraith]

this is my dk 3rd tab you eventually will have enough talent points to just max everything