#midgame-chat-w3๐งw4๐ฎ
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you can still do both, depending on when ur daily reset is
true, I can do both since daily reset is still hours away
just look at auto reviewer and im apparently in early w3
250T damage and still in world 3
new record?
go post on hall of fame
new record
should i push BB or Bm?
bm
early progerssion tho
ahh okay
bro push bb for talent points
why the hell would u push bm
breeding
Is it worth the trouble to try to get level 100 characters?
not yet
get to w5 to the 5th map
That would make me extremely rushed
How do I get high enough efficiency to catch fruit flies ahhh
By auto review, I'm early world 3 to achievements
same ๐
However, it correctly identifies my map progression is early w4
meaning my progress is a bit behind
RUSHING IS NOT A BAD THING
artifacts in w5 are op
for example the first one gives u shrine bonuses no matter where u are
and another one gives u +400% coins
and those are the easiest ones
Oh, wow
iE autoreview achievements difficulty are very badly evaluated imo
yes fr
Excluding that, it was bubbles, then refinery + combat levels for w3 stuff
I already brought it up in the autoreview chat but that platinum & veiny logs achievement are really hard to get until like, late w3 at least, w4 at best
I fixed bubbles I think, so I should be at late world 3 earliest
if I exclude the catching gold ring achievement (That one is very hard for me)
You think I can safely ignore achievement tiers?
when judging account progresss
You can estimate it a bit later than the app says but ignoring it completely I wouldn't recommend
At least the Ez access achievements are really useful
True, so I might be able to estimate it by maybe +1 world?
I've done the platinum achievement btw
It's THIS achievement that's going to stump me
This is quite a hard achievement to get I think
What world are you on?
Early W4 by map progression
wait what's equinox?
Secret map in w3
yeah but how do I unlock it?
2nd Portal at staches, then go past rams, then get mirror as a drop from bloodbones
its kinda like a cliker for w3 but its alot more in depth
The hoops minigame achievement is mostly a skill/practice thing so just keep trying until you get it, keep in mind that unlike the lava colored hoop the gold will appear depending on how far you've played not how many hoops in a row you hit
The achievements that would need to be rebalanced are the ones that are tied to game progression like the inventory ones since that just requires a lot of waiting or a good 3d printer sample
Yeah I believe the green and gold ones are just survive longer iirc
Okay, so I should keep going after that achievement until I get it
I could be wrong but I'm 90% confident
Yes since you don't have much uses for minigames anyways
Guys what am I missing here?
Try it on your maestro to get more catching exp
Completing bandit Bob quest first
Ahhhh bandit bob. Ty ty
welp time to afk at these staches them rams till I get this area
Oh, I unlocked my 2nd room on killroy
np, if you completed it and it didn't unlock also make sure to talk to cactus guy in W2 town until he tells you to help goldric
probably because I reached w4
Bet. Appreciate it!
Good luck! Tho keep in mind if you haven't reached w4-w5 yet, equinox will be very hard for you
I got w4 only sadly):
Should I maybe unlock the equinox soonish?
but is there fr no way to get these wormhole mobs faster? (I am only at 10k)
But yeah, I'll focus on the achievements
I have my printer focusing on 2 of them right now actually
wait how did u get it to do bloaches?
Early on the only equinox dreams you'll be able to complete are "all characters at lvl 100" and maybe "400 kills in a single killroy run"
The printer on the fishing area can print 1 of 4 things
press sample a couple times
keep using it until it shows up
ooh\
@ripe orchid dont waste your time not only are the mobs powerful but they have large kill requirements and the item you need is on a drop table its not worth it right now
I'd recommend you check online what dreams are in equinox and if you think you can complete any, then go for it
I got nothing but time to waste/:
Also keep in mind the ressource nodes you unlock in equinox require skill efficiency in the Millions to get anything
Okay, so equinox is a no for me then (Too early)
@ripe orchid do you have all elite classes
Whens a suitable time to unlock Equinox? I havent unlocked the portals yet since everyone says not worth atm
just about (except for the uhh one after mastero)
I might go for equinox either late w4 or vman / early w5?
When you can easily complete a few of the first few equinox dreams imo
early w5 is probably the best time
Okkkk. Im not gonna rush it haha. Rather start it when I know I can get the first few dreams without too much struggle
@ripe orchid then i suggest pushing to w5 the divinity's and other new thing help alot
Btw drone, I found a setup that kept the refinery speed, so I moved my maestro to fishing at the moment (afk)
sweet
aight (I like having my one guy push while I explore w/ other characters
I also found out my account progression is early w3
but I'm not too far behind ๐
If you can
- Greenstack 20 different items
Or - reach wave 50 on the first 6 tower defense
Or - Get to M skill efficiency on at least one skill on one character
On top of having all characters at lvl 100+, then I'd say go for equinox
100 on each aint seem that bad
I don't think I should worry about greenstacking?
100 is the easier one
ive got the 100 part but nothing else
Yes, 10m is greenstacking, I almost have it done on copper ore unintentionally
Yep 10m is greenstack
But there a reason why even autoreview only places greenstack at like, w5-w6 goals
@atomic fable that and regular wood are the best to do early because they effect skill efficacy on some perks
Only reasonable way to get one is with high printing
True: Copper Ore = Mining, regular wood = Catching
If I remember correctly
I think you only need at most 200 greenstacks to unlock everything
could be wrong
just curious, what inspired you to make multiple accounts? to try different builds, or ran out of things to do on one ? even one account for me seems very time intense xD
i agree with the above
I originally started playing this game with intention to fill in the patch gaps for ffxiv and genshin impact
but i'm actively playing it now 90% with my other games login in for dailies and ultimate raid hahaha
I got 3 new vials ๐
lets go!
I just got the mk per tier vial!
Dumb question... Jewel spinner asks for an item which is like 3 gems that are red, blue and purple I think, I don't remember seeing that anywhere
w4 store right?
Oh god its that... thanks
its 1 a day I believe
btw, I do think I have too much gold ore for 1 achievement ๐ฆ
The thing you buy 7 of than forget about it... big thanks
frrr
hunter afk/kill really that low?
make new gold stack then
since it didnt have too much aoe
oh is slush skull good?
(I dont think I have any on rn)
stat boosts are mid so dont fall for it
Don't use slush skull but don't delete it
u need it for crafting later
Ughhh time to mentally prep for full reprint
fr?
you need it to craft the god skull
what a beautiful username
Until this week's jewel also require you to buy some more ๐
This might be overkill, but for w4, I might go for void armour
NO
u can make it to w5 with amarok
even w6
thats what i did lol
You don't need to no damage w4
surviability is all that matters
Good food is good food
if ur pushing with dk ur fine
true, outhealing can also work and that
health and life steal talent also work
So, defence becomes less useful at world 4?
at my best map, i take 500 dmg
And that yeah
even after that
Because at the end of w3, I stopped taking 0 damage
It's not not useful but it's not a priority at all
one mob in w5 requires 136k def ๐
W4 ramps up in def required by a ton
136k ๐น
tremor
That it's impossible to keep up with requirements
I probably can get to the point I can no damage w3
no point bruh ๐ญ
u need to rush
but probably not past that
at this rate ur gonna have more dmg than me in w4
The auto review will hate me if I rush w4
bro autoreviewer is for post rush
and I'm already 1 entire world behind because of 3 achievements
is anybody having a problem getting hardlocked on killing w4 boss? I'm trying to farm one of the tasks and every time I do one of the challenges I cannot hit him when I should be able to
ignore it for now
MY FUCKING GOD LISTEN
I was actually partially rushed on alchemy by 1 bubble
ACHIEVEMENT DONT MATTER
when should i be thinking of going for onyx statues
IM EARLY W3
early w6 prob im too lazy tho
If I exclude achievements for a second, I'm late w3 minus achievements

yes thats fine
my progression was w3 at w5
Whats on your late w3 category?
Combat levels and refinery
Refinery is a time gate
Combat levels come faster from rushing
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depends hows your crystal spawns?
i mean im in w5 with dementia so idk if its necessary
do u got choco chip
i got void mid w5
I'm not sure why so many players suggest me to rush to w5
but it was easy at that point
i got 1/4 void
when my accuracy is not enough
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and my weapon is still the blue ones
uh i havent made a set
do u know what that is?
Did you do kangaroo?
Because rushing w5 is optimal
you definitely should because w5 is where the xp ramps up a ton
I've been working on kangaroo
rushing w6 is optional
but also fire
And it's not about just not listening to autoreviewer, it's about using autoreviewer as a tool not as your god that tells you what to do
work on that first
Rush w6, all the skills take forever to get going
Like yeah combat levels are late w3 and y'know what would get you up there faster? pushing w4 which gives more exp
Refinery is late w3 but that is a time gate, so don't wait around for it. It will catch up eventually. (Also, refinery is literally only one tier: unlocking green salt, when that's done it jumps to "finished")
So basically, the remaining stuff is time gated
Only start knocking out autoreview stuff at w6
It should still be counting the succeed at the mind game achievement if that is what you are doing
a lot of things are time gated
I only get it about 50% of the time, if I dont I have to full reset and waste a key
how much kill multiplier do i need to not take 10 years to get vman?
I mildly disagree with this
no need to rush like everyones telling you to
-accuracy cards
-accuracy star signs
-buy w4 stones, use them to get accuracy on your main pusher's equipment (usually dk at this point)
-focus shaqquracy bubble in alchemy
sure world 5 helps but youll get there one day like everyone else anyways
accuracy cards so goated
You're free to have you own opinions. I knocked out w4 and 5 in 6 days so to me it's not a lot of down time when it comes to working on things like stamps
The other issue is my low kph
Shauracy, flurbo shop, poppy and cards are all you really need
Fix accuracy and kph will come
If you're still lacking the accuracy, get the 10% accuracy in hydron constellation and the prayer that gives accuracy
The reason I half-disagree is that, I think it's good to keep an eye on some things that autoreviewer says and to do it on the way while you're pushing there are easy things that you can do on the side (like things you can just do with printer, etc.)
What level should circlelar criticals be
and like alchemy bubbles and stuff
is dungeon just an over time thing? i feel like it takes so long to max all the stats and have enough to upgrade rings
yup

Oh I agree but I guess these were things I constantly did so I never really had a problem there
do your best to do them during happy hour
I think if I want to rush to w5, there's 2 things I should keep doing - Alchemy and maybe the lab
is it worth doing dung without boosted runs?
There an accuracy chip in the chip repository at the moment
I don't have access to chips yet
Yeah I've seen a few people either go full extreme of stop everything until autoreview is caught up or ignore all of it and struggle ahah
yes but its going to take forever
like should i just be doing a couple runs every happy hour?
it would be preferable

For your sanity yeah
I've done quite a lot of non boosted runs just to get my cards up. I'm r38 and I have quite a few 4* dungeon cards.
ic
i cant even use autoreviewer ๐ฟ
With DB, it's even easier. It halved my bubo clear time
Rest in pizza
surely steam login support on other platforms soon
I have 2/3 chips

needed to unlock the chips area of lab
Do you have cooking going?
if you rush to w5 your going to be locked in lab and div
yeah, true, being locked on both lab and div might lock me out of all my characters for a long while
22.3k accuracy is saving my butt rn
If you want to try to get a chip as soon as you unlock the chip repo, try to unlock the pie meal
do I take the 45% chance or wait 8 hours for it to increase
my dk's dmg is 456k and on my other chars it's 280k to 180k
45%
take it
even 5% i take it
I legit got the pie LOL
That's a coinicidence xD
is SB best for Skull Scoring in Rift??
lucky you that one of the two chips in the current chip repo is a 10% total accuracy chip
have 650 gems what should i spend it on?
bubo if you have enough damage to 1 shot with gas
bet bet ty
what do u already have
lots
es works to
crystal printer 3 ivory cauldrons
The auto review is actually helpful to see what I can prioritise for more efficiency
What does 1 step ahead do?
2 brimstones(im still early game) extra hammer, 1 bleach liquid(my bubo has 200 tenteycle so im fine)
i have like 10 jewels
get a souped lab tube imo
zero w6/w5 purchases
level 75 lab on all chars already
oh wait you have w5-6 unlocked?
your lab needs to go up more
i dont think a w4 would be able to get 200 tenteycle ๐
thats fair lol
w5-w6 recommended is usually 1 golden sprinkler and 1 instagrow generator (minimum) iirc
Mines stuck at 135 rn
the more insta grows the better
once u get w5 it speeds up
I think I'll use the auto review as a guide on what to recommend next
Awesome. Was wondering if w5 would let me push it further
like for the skilling stuff
yes but but by the time u get 200 u will be at w6
do u have salt lick upgrade?
and rift slug?
although can someone tell me what 1 step ahead does on maestro?
your missing one of your lab nodes there
that one is bad
-30% liquid regen is very bad
what world are u in?
Not yet. Still upgrading it. No rift slug yet. Missing slug, crystal and doot haha
late w6
ay dedotated ram is fire
Yehhh I got a dupe ram yesterday. I saw the crystal for the first time n he ran away n a ram came haha
transfers talent points to tab 4, dont buy any points into that if you dont have voidwalker
LITERALLY THE SAME
i got 2 rams
Oh, okay, good to know for when I get vman
one custard thankfully
does DK always low on mana?
and got rift slug this week
why not my bubo makes so much liquid i dont need the 30% boost
ive gotten 5 so far 
Hahaha I hope the pet trade thing ends up happening eventually
after a while no later yes
fair ig
but ur base liquid cap should be high enough
are u in the thousands yet?
bg
I don't feel like I'm ready for w5 yet
way past
nah ur fine
js rush to w6 and catch up
if you have all attacks on your tab yeah
send me IT
u are trust, and even if you aren't, it'll take you time to get to w5, and during that time you'll be able to get ready
Isnโt it better to take it slower and work on other progressions?
w5 is slightly harder than w4
w3 is prob harder honestly
no world bonuses are always better
no because game is made in a way where every skill is a time gate past w3
cuz fooding is much easier
plus op buffs make eveyrthing faster
the longer u delay on starting later time gates the longer u'll take to get to decent levels on them + what fish said
skills of later worlds help mitigate time gates of earlier worlds and whatnot
I see I see. Damn Iโve been working on alchemy a lot but recently Iโve just been labbing everyone and pushing dk with KBR on
summoning sneaking farming sailing divinity gaming cooking are all time gated
35m dmg for w5 boss 
farming is VERY time gated
I only take them outta lab if Iโm doing reprints
summoning is also extremely time gated
Imma keep pushing then
So the fastest thing to do is rushing to at least w5?
omniphau is making breeding go way too fast ๐ญ
Omgggg thatโs defs what I have neglected in w4. Have barely spent any time splicing
Oh right, splicing...
working on alchemy will always be good, and dw this is a game where you can't really "waste" progression. its only different levels of minmaxing
tremor wurm has much more hp
and actually you're doing what a bunch of people have recommended too which is pushing w4 with dk and everyone else on lab so you're not doing anything wrong
i pushed w5 with es tho
just gotta not forget to occasionally check in with your bh on breeding and cooking
both work from what I've heard (for w4, idk for w5 yet)
cuz of dmg
Well, back then. I stayed in w1-w2 chat a lot, kept up with the updates and chatted a lot(as you can see through my total messages sent here and w1) eventually I made accounts to helps others, through quest. Or simply understanding the best method through the early game process
i think the bubo invincibility talent should affect afk
Also sorry for the late reply, I went to get something to eat 
Awesome! I kind of went vertical and got all my elites in dementia and void tools atm and they all feel good at what they do.
bro wasw a whole hour late ๐
Just trying to keep the prints always growing

so ur acc is better than mine
Naw I doubt it hahaha
!construction
I'm working on my owl rn
What level should the crit prayer be
No sweat ๐ yea fair enough! Sounds like you like the game xD I'm still struggling a lot with understanding which talent points will give better afk stuff atm, eg active skills for their "afk buff", some active skills have no effect, pure stats for multikill etc hah
u did a lot of extra work that most recommend skipping at that point but its never a bad thing, it also just means you'll now have an easier time pushing since you have better equipment and tools
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Oh damn ok lmao
I just have a big rusher's mentality
at least 250
I used to be sent DMs every day, messaged every day @ every day, and eventually got bored of the game
they are already dead
I do however, really enjoy the people in the community, so I decided to stay around 
like this makes me feel I'm so far behind
Anyway, is it good that I'm working on owl? (Going for megafeather 6)
how the
Even tho she doesnโt ever say anything to me, even she matters 
side by side comparison
Yeah itโs solid. I spent like 2 days early on just doing owl
before I continue to push for hunter's elite class, I'm going to get megafeather 6
im getting nullo salts for troll
megafeather 6 is really fast to get
took w1-2 way too slowly and started rushing when I got to w3
Just push elite while doing owl and roo
dont forget if your having acc problem that w4 upgrade stone put 5 of the primary stat of which ever class applies the upgrade so have mage apply stones to tools and weapon or armor that you then give to your warriors for sweet sweet bonus acc
also maybe slight spending
but shh
pushing to get megafeather 10 and I'm pretty sure it's pointless to try for 11
Mega feather didnt take that much of time
don't leave it in poppy
Nah just use one
just farm crabcakes
its not pointless but past megafeather 10 only go to owl every once in a while
my lazy ass is at fractal 4 ๐
Other on lab
and then use the map to teleport to it
and yeah I wouldn't heavy farm either of them, just get them to a decent level then go do other things and check back in later
Hunter have high mov speed
My mman is currently on fishing for xp
at some point in owl progression you can do a bunch of resets in a row until you get mega reset
poppy is insanely good for fishing tho, like doubles everything
Well you can do it lika that tho
can someone explain the ribbons from death bringer to me?
They let you upgrade your meals for higher multis. You can combine two of the same ribbon to rank them up
merge dragons but in idleon and the dragons are ribbons
bro i did 7 dilapidated slush and got 184 chizoar keys ๐
how do u know so much as an early gamer
well im an early gamer too but
ur eariler
bought the deathbringer pack so I got ribbons unlocked without needing the master class
no thats not what i mean
Are yall in w5/w6?
I'm pushing w4 rn
does it matter
Have I given any bad tips tho? (genuine question)
no
i take tips from anyone as truth, im to dumb to figure out most stuff
thats why im asking
this skill tree look okay for active?
thanks for spelling out my name on those reactions lol
Anyone got time to look at my acc for anything I might be neglecting? ๐
No
I would love to
lol i have experience
U should go 50 on 4 active skill
Is this really good pre-megafish 5?
saying out of pocket things with my friends. ๐คซ
I just got it to 33
the worm hole?
Yehh. Perm bonus ofc
he-he-he-helll nah
At this point, I think it's worth the megafish?
tufty u got the craziest fall off
I listened to a lot of content, I lurked on this server a bit before interacting and I browse reddit a lot, I looked at spreadsheets for longer than I'd like to admit and honestly I think trying to improve other people actually helps me improve myself
Yea for farmin material
alr ig
bruh what i never got up ๐
bro has 3 levels in meteor ๐
That last part not just in idleon but in life in general, when ur learning a skill helping others learn with you helps you learn the skill better
that is diabolical ๐
should i have more
get like 25 in each but get 50 on meteor
Should I do the megafish 5 now that the bonus price is higher Q?
its op
oki
dont invest in attack one unless ur activing
not meteor i mean the every attack one
the message says for active
hi
wormhole do it later
day 4 of TD
The one thing I'm not gonna give advice on is talents cause I dont know what the fuck im doing for talents either ๐ im just good on figuring out progression and listening and understanding what other people say
now what if you did my talents for me
i must get the last bubble now!!
50$/month for that
Okay, got megafish 5
too got in 10 tries
Loool the spreadsheet seems good to me. The only one I dont understand is why it recommends the printer talent for DK for the fight build since I never print in that build
bro neglected for 5b years ๐
I mean i guess i could follow the spreadshhet
what?
Does this mean I'm getting the lab bonus without needing to upload my characters?
or just buboed
Do sharped axe and then do guilded sword guys
do it on phone
i do only sometimes
so i shouldnt get this if i plan on activing correct?
put a little
get 1 point still
correct
u will always need to afk
I would still put into them because you'll be afk eventually
level 25 at least
okay
every little bit helps and AFK% is hard to get
I think its as a "if you have overflow points and maybe need one extra monster print from your dk" situation? honestly im not too sure either lol
afk% increases kph
I just moved onto the boomerang instead haha
dk isnt used for monnster mat farming es is for that
if its pink in the spreadsheet (for afk) should i skip it but still put 1 point into it?
tbh i think get 1 point in the divine intervention
and 40-50 in shockwave +10-20 in divine statue
and remaining in orb
if u active
but orb isnt that helpful early u an do daggerang instead
1 point is must in all skills
ohhh wait you're talking about that one
you wanna max out the Statue and the one that gives your auto attacks %chance to fire the wave
That talents is good actually because the effect is not just for DK
if im activing should i get this to 50 like the spreadsheet says? i wanna make sure i have points for the attacks
guys i might be cooked, good run though
I thought you were talking about another talent
80 is good if ur in w4
That talent before boomerang boosts 3d printer for all characters if I understood it correctly
The longer the wormhole lasts the harder the mobs that come out will be, so if you can't kill the mobs after like 60 then its pointless for it to last longer
so do get that one
negligible amount for now
just put a few points in there
dont get the red one from the squire tab
what red one?
Wait. So I need the printer one on both builds?
They both increase the multi?
higher one only
No, the printer one is on your fight build
i might be misunderstanding the question
better to make it in skilling one
Ohhhhh I see I see. Ya I have it maxed out on my skill build
Just not on the fight build
not worth
I thought it would still register my kills from the fight build
if u dont have alot of points
it increases a tiny amount only
The wording on some of these skills confuse me so much
I feel this 
Frfr
i like to give and take advices
and the red one is "super samples" from squire tab that I think isnt useful for fighting build
Iโm just a retired player who enjoys lurking 
can omniphau bonus affect shiny pet leveling?
I think the printer upgrades is more useful for mining
you mean like counting AFK time for the shinys or for BM afking'
because you can get a much stronger ore prints
yay i have competent damage now ๐
am i cooked?
absolutely
ur good u can win
this was not a reply to the pet image fyi xD
why use rattler up front tho
trying new comp
if he dies u cant win until ages
faster and doesnt change anything
Oh wait, with maestro, you don't want left hand talent?
not early on
if he dies ima lose
not that bad ig
immediately
Oh, I think I messed up with splitting between both
Hey fellow Idleon'eers, the Troll armor requires ALOT of nullo salts, is it just a waiting game?
Because you want to bring him above everyone else on skills
i swapped to es 
Heck
Okay, should I reset maestro's talents then
my es has low dmg ๐ญ
to remove the xp bonus
the shiny pets
Its ok just use talent reset, the normal ones are easy to come by, then I wouldnt invest points into left hand until much later
Alright
i think i need to get more stamps.. just waiting for the wiki..
Yes
I'm ngl, the talent resets have came in clutch multiple times to fix setups
WAIT IT CAN CLAIM AFK TIME FOR REINERY
wiki currently up on internet archive btw
wdym internet archive
anyone remember what the rift 21 bonus is cuz the wikis down i cant check
hold up
oh fr
eclipse skulls is rift 21
should explain why my shinies are lving up pretty fast, thx
i see not really worth it for me rn thanks
is my defence fine
Got right hand talent boosted to 129 on 1st try ๐
It's less convenient to find things in the archive but at least some of the info is still there for the time being while the wiki gets fixed
Defense only matters if you are less then 10% of the required, in that case you'll basically die in two hits or smh
I'm starting to like the auto review, very helpful to figure out what to improve
True, I'm aware of that
but it's helpful to know like what talents to prioritise for skilling and that
Which made me realise I messed up with applying points on left hand talent
although once you get to Void gear you're kind of bottlenecked by Nullo salts for Troll gear
so nobody can really blame you
is it worth taking someone out of lab to get stamps if i can still reach kbs
I also wouldn't try to get gear for all your characters unless it's super easy to get mats for all of them
Crafting one void set for your pusher as opposed to 7-8 void sets is a lot less effort for practically same immediate results
just don't forget to buy Dense water every day, at least 5
every void item needs at least 5
I have 46 im locked
I got 1 step ahead to 133 (my current book max) just so that's setup for the future
you need like 90 per character
just get your playtime up gamer
i have to wait 3 more days till i can get to the map after biggole worms
Guys how do i farm playtime?
biggole worms is the worst map of w4 ๐ญ
leave game open on chracter select screen or irl time candies
Void is the last tier of cheap stuff
Low kph?
No but its not worth making Lustre gear
no, it's just the fact there's so little of the mob on different platforms
without the left hand talent this time
bruu i need to get a maestrooo
Yeah, since it's not worth the materials, it's considered expensive for what you get..
i got my damage locked in fr
my bubo somehow has 30k eff on chopping
Multikilling?
i got everything else but damage
btw i hit 1k def today ๐
am i confused on how multikill works or do you not need more damage than enemies health
twice i believe
Why make Lustre or Chizor gear when you can jump straight to Troll boss armor which upgrades into w5 stuff anyways
The way mk works is that you have to deal double of max damage to start to utilise mk
why do people ask if im mk with 700k dmg
basically, if an monster has 500k HP, you need 1m to activate mk
bruh my es active is strong enough to wipe the map of cans
my ribbons are bad guys
yeah it's difficult to get that type of damage in w4 especially with the later maps
w5 gear needs troll armor anyway
salt is an issue mostly
apparently not because a lot of people were saying they hit multikill in w4 
Yeah, it will take "a while"
idek how ppl get that high damage ๐ญ
10k nullo salts my beloved
bro meteors are goated
at least when I get my ice hammer my damage will go up
I never hit mk late w3
you dont have it yet?
YESSS they are W
Youโre not hitting MK on w4 while pushing
smithing levels and kinda low ice cube samples
If you are youโre late to pushing
other people think otherwise
they're probably extra prepped
You typically finish w4 with 1M damage
Hi arctis, turns out my account progress is early w3
i like how 40k starfire bars is basically nothing but 10k nullo salts is the bottleneck
dump all into balls?
ig I'm kind close
due to a couple of achievements
time to buy Doot
I fixed the 1 bubble that was mid w3
how much of a dmg increase would u expect from a enforced sword to ice hammer
meaning I'm late w3 minus achievements
I'm expecting at least 50k extra and max is probably 200k extra but that's probably way too high of an increase
Thatโs typical, Scolis label is usually much lower than your map, his would be the max prep for stuff, but Iโd rush more than what Scolis thing would imply you should do
so I'm on pace despite that?
We been saying this
my bubbles are ok ig, almost at w4 bubbles
i also bought some smithing points on my dk and spent it all on bonus xp
speaking of bubbles, I have lots of excess resources to upgrade bubbles literally every day now
Oh, I see
should i always buy the gold ball gain until maxed?
Just keep doing what youโre doing
Should be doable for at least the earlier maps, I believe I could hit multil up to clammies
So how do i get more accuracy i've just ran into a wall sorta
yeah autoreview is account progression, pushing is zone progression
Flurbo shop, kangaroo and shaquracy early on
You might be hitting MK on the early mobs but that doesnโt matter bc youโre pushing, which is on the highest map you have
mk while pushing
me being late on autoreview pushing :')
fisheroo,star signs, cards, kangaroo, shaq, more of your main accuracy stat, family bonuses (maybe)
I can't really push because of accuracy
Then youโve over prepped
I think for me I'm under prepped because of accuracy issues
Hard to say I'm over prepped, my ES was pushing 24/7
Did you remake your armor
I haven't yet
I never once stopped to grind out gear
nah you're prepped well done (good, not bad at all)
i remade gear at donuts, and I've never had to change my armor at all
Cupcake you won't get new advice by asking the same questions when you have the same problems yknow
i just need dementia helmet (I have viking helmet rn)
true, sorry
We already told you how to fix your accuracy and to not stop for acheivements even if ar tells you to
its alright just trust the process and go for it
Yeah, work towards dementia in w4, the void in w5 (legplates and boots should be free if you have been printing), and eventually maybe chizoar towards the end of w5
yeah for me it just hurts me a lil bit inside to see a big gap between minimum zone and max zone
here is what it is now
got it
after dinner hopefully it will be done
If you have multi million damage you over prepped to push for w4, weather that was bettering your acc in w3 or early w4 that doesnโt change the fact that you could/shouldโve pushed earlier
I forgot crawlers exist
i have 3 world gap ๐
white headband
White headband
I literally pushed 24/7, there's no way I could push earlier... 
i love how every time i got elites my kph jumped up a TON on that map
If you got to w4 earlier
Do giant mobs only spawn when active on the toon
yeah
my best jump was probably when I got an sb, went from 900 kph to 1.7k
If you had that much dmg you shouldnโt have had any issues with getting to w4
I got to w4 as early as I possibly could with my knowledge at that time, around 3 weeks to get to w4
all my chars have more than 1k kph in genies except my jman
Either way it doesnโt matter I was just saying that you typically will not have MK when pushing w4
lv 16 reached
Their health isn't high early on
Early maps arenโt the issue when pushing
This is the best I can craft right now
They never were ๐
Thatโs fine, throw some wisdom stones on it and youโre good to go
Okay, I'll need to use a mage character for a minute
Yep
for the wisdom stat
Once you get to w5, the snake will give you accuracy and the artifacts will give you damage so.. I think it could last you quite a while into w5
murder
That is actually an armor upgrade for my dk I think too
i've heard some ppl say that w5 was a blink of an eye compared to w1-4
w6 is gonna be a grind because no time candies ๐ญ
i definitely miss this
it is
W4 can be quite quick too
Umm... I ran out of w4 stones
yeah w4 isn't as long as other ppl are saying, but it does take a long time
It was my fastest by far
, w3 took me about 1 week so that was pretty long
W6 isnโt a grind bc of the candies, itโs a grind to upgrade your account to not suck. The actual pushing usually doesnโt take all that long
so... shrines! question
thats if you rush ofc
arctis, I ran out of world 4 stones trying to upgrade it, I got 2/4 all slots used
will having multiple characters in the map make them lvl up faster?
w1-3 took me about 1-2 weeks, w4 is currently taking me about 2-3 weeks, and w5 is probably gonna be fast
You kind of need to upgrade your acvount a lot for w6, it's painful if you can't multikill
Thatโs fine, just get more tomorrow
so 8chars is +8h/h?
yeah I hate when the upg stones go out of stock
yup
thank you :3
Problem solved in w6, kinda. Takes uo a slot whether it fails or not
I just buy em every day
I'm currently working on a quest to get the potion stamp
how do i start on sigils im done with bubbles @white lintel
Only start on sigils for real if you have like 100+ sigil speed
Got megafeather 6!
Better to just Cc farm if you have 200+ tent
according to my very scuffed estimation i should be getting around 7.7k kph active
hmm i need to check what i get on biggole worms actively
spawn caps
sheesh 1st cauldron almost got maxed
Speaking of alchemy, I finally got the 1st gem upgrade for liquids
I get almost exactly 2952 active kph not counting respawn times and spawn caps (if i knew the formula for them I would)
can i get the kapow stamp from the gigafrogs during the quest afk?
I know you can time candy it, so you should be able to
as long as the quest is active
Um im stuck at the kitchen, I got the chicken but I havent learned any new reciepes
and it shows I wont learn any when I try too
wait what is the 3rd toggle in automation arm (ik 1st is auto forge, 2nd is auto consume food, what's the 3rd?)
?wiki
hmm, how do I unlock the next spice? Level up cooking I assume? Also some of the wiki pages are down due to internal error
Do I upgrade the automation arm or wait for green salts? (It takes blue)
Level 1
Uhhh
Level 2 unlocks the food restocking I believe
If you run out of food then yea but idk why you canโt do both
the wiki is still down isn't it
3rd is soul apparatus maybe
Do I prioritise the automation arm over green salts?
Do you need green salts for anything v
3rd is soul apparatus yes
automation arm is huge
Iโd say auto arm
getting 4th toggle is gonna be HUGE for anvil levels
Alright, the auto review does suggest me to get to green salts
but I can probably hold off for now until I fix the red salts
Do I start with the atom collider or nah
Alright
Unless you think you can get hundreds of millions of a resource
I'm kinda in a situation where I can't really... build anything
Send sc
This is my construction side atm
I see a lot of green
my building rate is pretty low (6k per hour) i should def get that up
Because I'm salt locked with orange, any orange upgrades will reduce how much blue I get now
Remember that you need to use xp cogs
meaning I have to be very careful with it
oh yeahh
And red's the exact reason I'm stuck with orange - I have only 120 red salts or so
Work on the new tower
The party wizard? (That one takes blue)
The one to the right of it
That's the 1 I need green salts for
Is it not ready to upgrade yet
You now see why I said I can't really build anything?
if I upgrade anything on orange salt, I reduce the blue salts I get
Just donโt build anything else and work on other stuff
Alright
Youโll get more salt in time
I think it'll take 3 days to rank up red salts again
Oh, 2 days
Okay, I think I have to use 2 characters to print green spores
to keep it active all the time
Be back later gonna shower
atom collider is turned off but is still converting resources above the threshold. hmm
do whatever you need to get enough for the salts
if I use all 4 prints for spores, I can't get blue salts
@atomic fable drop rate card affect monster drops for samples if im correct also for some reason my archers are my best monster samplers might try them
Oh
if that's true, I'm panicing for no reason with the red salt fuel
I can just do a reprint
finally
yall how can i get more accuracy on my mage. like shes chilling with merely 3.5k but ive maxed agi and done all clickers
cards
oooh
neyeptune, veiny logss, wood mushroom
and sand castle
veiny logs is very easy but only gives 3
thanks a lot, forgot about cards on my second mage
sand castle also easy but gives 4
yeah ill take any agi i can bcs i want elite class
np try to get them to at least silver
use bloque card
Okay, I tested it, dr doesn't seem to affect prints
thats sticky stick right
It's such a shame that the hunter free arena fights skill doesn't work If the arena is already on cd
i dont have veiny logs card...
time candy
@trail stirrupin w4 the upgrade stones give stats based on who applied them have your archer apply some to tool, weapon, armor for your mage to use
on mage
took bro like 9 years to write message ๐
yeah i have taken them on my 2 pieces of enfaunt armor
ehh i only have 4 slots i realised
i got 600 accuracy from that thanks
buy other card slots iMMEDIATELY
first priority
I have 5 card slots
@atomic fableit might not work for mushrooms they already drop there iteam around 100% of the time
get 8
i got 600 gems ish but i dont have 2nd print slot yet
do i save or buy card slots?
dr doesnt affect it
I have 426 gems
buy it
save for print slot
only golden anvil and printer are better than card slots
is 5 printer slots fine for now? (It means I can't get printed void ore)
yeah thought so, i have been really dumb buying stuff that isnt worth it just to save time
yeah i got golden anvil
no i mean crystal 3d printer
I have crystal 3d printer
Oh?
better for late gamers cuz they lazy
that limits me to the 1st 5 ores as of rn
u dont need every ore sampled
personally i just change ores every once in a one because like i dont need silver always
dementia for buble
Do you think I might not need iron?
yes thats what i do
ehhh not really
iron ingots are good tho
just print that one when u need it and then take it away again afterwards
gold is useful for mage bubble that gives base damage
I did earlier get my 1st water gem upgrade in alchemy since it was bottlenecking me
btw can you ever get green vial for pickle jar?
yes
takes a while
*a vial
get it?
does it just take 10years or is there someway to speed it up
what a thigh slapper
what a vial slapper
no way but later in the game u get 2 per stock
ik lol some kid at our school said that
okay so 5years
Btw, I do have 2 mages printing each log type plus oak
instead of saying im shivering in my timbers he says, "my thighs are bouncing"
i already know hes the dumb one
he was a nerd
but that strat isn't going to work fully once I reach the next tree in w4
like a huge sweat
nah thats foul. u gotta say timbers bcs thats an ultimate ability in league of legends xDD
print oak for warrior first bubble
is efaunt gear worth crafting
nah
its cracked
bro plays lol ๐คฏ
this is with w4 stones
what log is the least useful when I do have to replace it
Hello gentlemen and ladies
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so just armok armor until plat?
i think veiny
amarok and plat is basically the same

