#midgame-chat-w3🧊w4🔮
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oh yeah crystal and pushing
is there a way to stop the beryllium @ atom collider from eating all the post office pens?
Nah
hmm, im gonna lose my streaks then .. some are over a year :/
What streaks?
Order streaks?
yes
You get silver pens faster than u can use them 
its now spending 7 per day it says .. i tend to only get 4-6 these days
What world are u?
Ye true
Naahhh, that's too op
6, but half my guys are on skilling or low worlds completion - not too many pens there
and now a deathbringer not getting pens too cus hes grimmoiring
Why didnt u start doing CCing/Active ES/Crystal Farm?
whats ccing? crowdcontrol ?
Cranium Cooking
do pens drop more from crystals ?
Yes ig by alott
i havent dabbled much into cooking- i found out today my total level is 30 - just made it to that rift
which im guessing is mostly the BB
whats cranium cooking exactly sorry ?
oh ok
A Shaman's active talent
whats crystal farm? just killing crystal mobs ?
Aiming to have high crystal spawn chance with Choco chip and farming with DK in flat platforms
Or farming with ES, or Bubo, whatever
for more pens, right ?
But these are best (including SB) cuz all have enemy respawning ability
Ye, crystal mobs have one of the best chances of dropping silver pens
gotcha
1 in 3090
the new DB seems to be killing mobs pretty fast too - plus respawns them
Insanely fast
Levels up fairly quickly also : )
Went from level 500-520 in a matter of an hour
not doing grimoire stuff ?
I'm pushing w4 and I hear about this equinox thing you unlock after rams but it takes a ton of kills should I keep pushing or start grinding rams
What do rifts actually do
its just reach highest rift = more bonusses
Yep
Equinox wont welp if u dont complete what it asks you (Im into W5 and still made no progres
)
What is equinox I just know people say it's great for leveling
probably gonna get my 8th character tomorrow or the day after, what should i make?
use the equinox to level your fishing to 30 or more.
every cast is a level, up to 18 ish
I suppose I'll try it once I reach w5
using candy is another option if ya like
Also does journeyman get the accuracy buff from luck
Or is there no accuracy buff for journeyman
Alright thanks guys
different rifts have different bonusses, heres one
how do you take samples of smth
Do the w3 main quest(ice cream cone) you’ll get a star talent, put a point into it and drag it into your attack bar
any chance i can get a W4 /dance party for achievement? need some help. currently on pizza 1.

accidentally click the deposit all button for those today, so thats fun.
I let you do that on your own account 
Stuff..
i am scared i will grind detoriated rams
No, go grind flombeiges
what...
uhh im 1 second in w4 what should i do, talk to the sleeping carrot thingy?
i still haven't done the cowboy jones notorious BOB quest kek
should you wait with placing a ribbon before its max rank? and is max rank 15?
why do i have to breed musrooms
Because it's called breeding
you can place ribbon and upgrade it over time
max rank is 20 btw
gives you access to a lot more plates in cooking
cool
basically if ur breeding is bad, ur cooking will be bad too
and cooking gives a lot of massive bonuses
all of w1 up until nutto
then all of w2 up until snelbie
then all of w3 up until boop box
i see
then w4 up until dog
and you upgrade it to put one on which is the same rank?
ofc it takes your time
too much wierd mechanics this game makes me go insane
TYYY
i fail 20% chances 7 times in a row so yeah , it does
that's average
how can you trash pets you keep
it's when you get 2x below stat luck when it starts getting annoying
claim spice?
maybe look around breeding first
the cooking doesnt have anything in it
breeding.
yes
any guide for this?
i afked for 15 mins that didnt go up by 1
all on auto?
why he look like sans
Did you switch to another character whilst it was afk?
no...
Is there a max level for upgrading kitchens with spices?
Not that I have seen
what's a mega crit? for the constellation?
Any easy way to get this faster, other than obviously getting pets numbers higher?
its a talent from the dungeons shop
check out the spreadsheet, its likely the best one
yeah this is the best I since I dont have converter yet, wasn't sure if I was missing something outside of the breeding gui
its prolly the best dw, try getting converter asap
just unlocked mamooth, was sleeping on breeding for too long unfortunately cause I didnt really get it 
it goes slowly but its cool to have, i need like 3 pets to finish
Do all pets give the same xp?
no clue tbh
uhm where to get deathbringer 
w6 map4
which class ?
Ayyy
||DB, Death Bringer||
BB
cool
Didn't u wonder around the wiki for atleast once?
nope
bb
i just escape from ohio
e
Also I finished ||Summoning||, idk if u already know
huh what is light up first bonus
First node
Open lab
there, i connected
See that red house?
huh? console?
Try to connect your prism to that red house by your character
how...
Then add more character 😜
wait, FIRST?
summoning never finish
Now all your characters go to lab and try to get killer's brightside node (the bunch of skulls one) and 1 pusher to push w4
im still on red and suck..
yeah i'm like 14 pixels away, it's way too slow
Well, lab is the first jail u encounter, 2nd is divinity till you can go back to lab to do both, and 3rd is monuments
like this?
Congrats, u activated your first node
bro 2 of my characters aint even finished w2 and i force them to push w3
your first useless node 
only my first gonna go w4 for now ig
how do i even increase lab efficiency? i have skilled dimwit active on all of them since that bumps up xp gain but about thats it
what do i do..
Follow IE AutoReview
hmm?
Skilled damwit doesn't affect lab
Only it's curse does
mason jar or crystal wouldnt be bad
im pretty sure its the other way around
Sup Tokito
sup
why and how do idleon players interact with other humans i dont know how help me
i feel like nobody remembers who they talk to yesterday
You are correct, @marble silo sry for misinfo
Real 
Use skilled damwit, it's good
aye just got the lucky trophy

I sometimes remember
Ah, feels good for the first time
wait, so i should i have it equipped?
why do i have to read after doing things
It’s fine 😂
Sry 
The -exp doesn’t make much of a difference tbh…
i dont think i have enough space

I accidentally used 7600 ladles because i didnt understand how they work
oops
amarok armor def higher or dementia higher?
I neglected this character a lot… I should have known bb would be the first elite class 🤦♂️
1 step closer to 75 lucky lads 
Could anybody tell me why it will not let me purchase the deathbringer gem bundle in the shop, I’m on iOS, do I need to have deathbringer unlocked?
I don’t think so? Have you tried restarting your game
Or cloudsave and re try
Hey void 
Ello/
What ribbons tiers do u have rn?
Should be
Oh no… I have hundreds
I atleast think it was tier 7? The one I had was 2.73%
Ahh… ah, sure
Are u sure it's accurate? nvm
Mmm
off of the character on a different character?
I'm at 3.6k acc now!
no it worked now
does the eagle eye trapper vision building give xp to all players when collecting like the perk or only the individual character collecting?
Give exp to all
Nice!
w4 enemies do be the hardest part of it, raw numbers wise
also just realised donuts would be better
even at lower hit chance due to map layout
Well, I just helped display, figure out most of the ribbons
So he’s only got a few more left over, I’m sure he can ask someone
mustve been a pain
For?
ribbon math
Not really : )
smh
The later ones aren’t very nice tbh, might need to scavenge endgame chat 
Or just ask anyone who has a tier 18/higher
how big of a bonus are they?
statistically thats impossible
1= 0.05x
2= 0.14x
3= 0.19x
4= 1.28x
5= 1.46x
6= 1.61x
7= 1.66x
8= 1.82x
9= 1.87x
10= 2.35x
11= 2.40x
12= 2.62x
13= 2.67x
20 pulls, 3% chance, need 8 of em to win
I could most definitely get a tier 15
i dont think i need to say more
If I wanted to continue, but I’m too lazy
I still have 80+ golden stop watches
And I haven’t bought like.. any ribbons from shop
18 isn’t hard…
Or maybe it is 🤔 I think 17 Is doable
mathmatically speaking it is
3% chance from the last gem shop ribbon for a t15
youd need 8 t15s to get a t18
weekly giants did happen today~
Oh I know XD
my DB has 192 gems in inv
Got a total of 200 gems so far
Did you see my stats bean, I’m slowly getting to mid game
So inspiring man
i havent
I’m almost as good as some early w6 gamers 
thats always good~
The fired up talent eventually becomes purple
it does yes
And it looks so cool with the cape/hat
after 5 stacks iirc
oh yeah btw
I just realized, monolith will take my 20k statues so I cant even onyx it 😭
it starts onyxd
oh really?
yeah

the power one does anyways
not too worried about the w1 statues, I can instaonyx them when I eventually get there
well, besides health
i just unlocked the deathnote should i start fareming the deathnote now or wait till w4?
you can do so on ur chars that arent pushing
i currently have 5 and all seem to be doing something, shaman and wizard chopping wood but i guess now i can leave it onto the printer, my squire is always mining barbarian pushing the world 3
printer solves a lot of that
main goal is to get 100% uptime on ur refinery via printer rn
i guess yeah
it's why crystal printer gem upgrade is very important
makes it so you can print more unique mats per char
What the set up for this
check top pin
is there a list/picture/spreadsheet still of optimal refinery levels?
this is all you need to learn
reading isn't hard. knowing when to go from below is
can also use review bot if your account isnt a steam loggin to see if you're safe to upgrade
!review
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If you need help, please use https://discord.com/channels/437797104786604034/1174753262365315203
thanks, I didn't realize autoreview had that
Should I be ranking up refinery as soon as I can, or is there a strat?
To avoid salt lock it's best to refine as much as you can I'm pretty sure, but it gets to a point
Rather, the red salt one. Like rank up all the time, or set to auto-refine when my 3d printer prints about as much in an hour as is needed in the refiner?
red and green can be leveld all the time, other will vary depedning on power per cycle
Yeah I would also say try to keep it within your prints which will be difficult if your just in world 3 but it's good to get it going
yeah, like getting 120 spores/hr across 2 toons, so super early w3 stuff
And 1 thing I will say if you are in world 3 for the love of fucking God don't neglect trapping or worshipping you will need both badly so I would reccomend getting new boxes to get as much critters as possible and new skulls, and try to push for royal sampler prayer
I'm in about mid w4 now and kinda have fallen behind because I don't have caught up worshipping and trapping
TY, just made my wizard. Should I focus on mage towers in construction, to get higher souls per tower defense game?
Try and get to Boulder roller and frozone malone
I've been told those will carry you just gotta level them up
I placed some flags, they unlocked squares, now Im out of flags (0/4), how do I get more flags?
What should I be doing after I put all my characters in jail
Wait until they have served their adequate prison sentence, then take a couple out to farm stuff, and slowly reintroduce more prisoners into the real world.
How many years are we thinking
1QQQ years minimum
This seems more correct honestly


is there anywhere i can see evertything that gives + talentpoint, like rift slug does
Hey, does anyone know a decent trapping guide? I feel like my traps are set up horribly
how do I incresse my flaggy rate 😭
How slow are cogs to produce? it seems real bad
What does the "Sample Reset" do? NM, clicked it and found out lol
I just started w3
build cogs/better cogs. They have different stats according to rng and the class of the cog, including flaggy rate
By clicking the eye on the top left you can see the different stats of the cogs all at once, or by hovering over the cog
Only because your construction level is low. The higher it gets the faster you'll produce, and the better cog tier you'll be able to produce
I see. So it goes up depending on the construction level of whatever characters I put inside?
yeah but like 10 flaggy rate isnt gonna do anything
The better construction level you get, the better cogs. Better cogs have better flaggy rate
hello question did we get free choco chip or why do i have one yet ive never bought one
whats a good statue lvl to get as a base before going for the 20k
should i lvl my wizard further to make towerdefense easier ? i can barely get by wave 51 on the goblins , i know its kinda redundant question any tips for where to farm for TD stamps ? i only have one TD stamp thus far
im at towerworship lvl 24
bm is the td master
so i leave wizard on his TD spec and play TD as BM ?
sry i dont quite understand t he mechanicsc behind it or why BM
BM got a talent that root mob in place
aighty so ill try goblin TD with BM then just unlocked him today
he is lvl 125 if that matters
so 1 pt in the root and place him at the end right ? if i follow
so ill have to respec him and buy the books to get it to 200
the duration of the root scale so highest you can go really
have to wait till tomorrow to place traps at crabs anyhow cause i accidentaly the whole traps
that should make things a LOT easier i was under the impression ive to do TD as wizard to get more xp out of it etc
while wiz has the talent to boost the soul he gain from worship, hunter is the one that currently got the best skill for actually doing the tower defence part
right now im doing boulders with some frosttotems inbetween as i was told to lvl boulder for ez progress
sounds like a mistake on lavas part or intentional bigbrain , roger that thank you a lot
does anyone know how to fix this bug? Im trying to get my elite class. i tried relogging
youre looking at completed quests
Oh yeah i was trying to say ive done the quest "select elite class" but I dont have an elite class this is my 8th character
ok but does the cogs generated from my hightest lvl active there or overall?
I honestly dont know how to respond to that, I could've done it earlier I think, these are my statues so far
and to be fair, I've been neglecting statues hard
The higher level you have, the better cog "type" you can assign your characters to. The cog type determines the average numbers
i dont know whats good and whats not, im just starting to save now
Right now you can only make noob cogs I'm guessing. The more you make, the closer you'll get to the level needed to produce the next tier of cog
it's not statue level that matters, it's Dr and Crystal spawn chance
crescent shrine 🥵
8x Dr and 1/100 crystal chance with choco chip takes 30 hours on active dk for power statue 20k
Try going back to town, cloud saving and re visiting the quest
I missed a class before elite so i had to go back and do that then come back and get my elite lol thanks though!
yeah but does the characters in here matter ?
like if all of them r lvl 1 and I have a lvl 100 not there will I be still getting the better cogs ?
Put highest con toons in the highest tier cogs, not including DKs ofc
The stats of the cog depends on your highest construction lv iirc, so your DK(s)
best place to active farm for 20k statues?
check in the pin, will be further down for a list of which mob to kill
You can't put a level 1 character in ultimate cogs afaik, but if I'm wrong and you can then idk
With sub 100 crystal spawn 8-10DR and choccy chip
Can anyone help me with the xxx cattleprod xxx last quest
Guys, am I missing something? I've got 1.5k kills per hour in W4 and the portal requirements are getting insane (180k!!) so this'll take forever. How can I speed this up? My pusher is a lv. 136 DK with dementia armor and ice weapon
everyone in lab, setup your shrines, do alchemy and stamps, food
Is everyone in lab that useful at low lvls? I can only activate a few nodes...
is your survivability even 100% when you check afk info tho, 1.3k is hella low
There’s a x2 kill count bonus in lab
Also your afk kph do NOT reflect your actual kph as active pusher with DK
You’d gain way more than 1.5k per hour with active DK
It is, accuracy is 100% too so I thought this was normal? Would it be attributed to dmg and def then?
you should always aim for 1.5x accuracy
If survivability is not at 100% you won’t get the full afk gain
and if you are not dying, afk info wont matter as DK instaspawns everything once the map is wiped clean
I'd definitely push all the characters to get elite classes tho
bubo lab nodes are massive, bm is nice when it comes to breeding etc
2.8k power statues left 😩
although I'm shocked that more powerstatues drop than health ones 
Yep
are equinox challenges random btw?
Nope set in order
ive just reached the end of world 4 but i dont feel ready to go to world 5 my bubbles are so bad
Go in w5, you’ll have plenty of time to do them because w5 is very slow anyway
You’ll also have other jails in w5 
w5 jails 
i havnt done any rift or equinox
And also in w5 there’s something to boost your prints by 3 times (x2 with lab x3 with this you’ll have x6 in the end) tho you’ll get this bonus way later
Could always start, the first few are always somewhat easy at your level and eventually you’ll be stuck because you won’t be able to complete them because some challenges will be somewhat hard
Dmg pot and speed pot, book your DK talents, place statue bottom plateform
Also you using the respawn talent of DK right?
yeah but I was just giving an example like does it matter what lvl r those characters in the making cog thing like if all of them were level 100 and I had a lvl 1000 outside it would it still give me better cogs based on the level 1000 ?
More lvl is just more speed I reckon, then cog is just random and up to your luck
So usually with your 2 DK in board you’d want your highest construction lvl (beside DK ofc) on ulti then the one before ulti
?
yeah punctuation is a bit bad there
you want both DKs on the board for construction
other highest leveled construction on either ulti or the one before it to get cogs
but basically nobody else should be on the board besides your DKs
brother, no offense but for the love of god, be specific
why should nobody else be on the board besides DKs
because nobody else will have as good construction speed as DKs
DK on board because they will eventually have the highest construction level + the bubble that increase build rate based on construction lvl
The xp cogs are better than the Br non squire gives
speaking of Carpenter, I should up my bubble game 
Yeah but whats bad about having more characters on the board isnt that just better , if not why not?
we just told you 😭
Well they are alright but by placing more char you’d remove cogs (like directional buffing your DK) or xp making your DK leveling faster
Also at one point your other char build rate won’t make your total build rate change much
this will do more than any other character that isnt DK
and you can place a lot of this
@sleek pollen there is a similar cog that affects rows, right?
huh, I'm really unlucky cuz I haven't seen one yet
Row column, rectangle 3 by 2 in front and the gem shops one
I set a timer for an hour to come back to my 60 min traps and there's still 16 mins left, whats up with that?
did you spend any time on character screen
my board is build diffrent tho 😎
If you are still game open on the character selection time wont pass for some things like traps
if your board is built like that, why even ask such questions?
Why you making it complicated when you already do DK meta
jesus christ ppl love wasting others' time
Show build rate 
zen cog is too close
like just being active on my bm? or specific menus?
i mean excogia
active on any other character or game entirely closed @rancid furnace
Idk how to unlock the flags faster it would take me like 200 days to unlock all
by leveling ur chars up
That one screen when you launch game with all your char appearing, tho if you were active it shouldn’t have problem
Or your traps just had 1 hour and 16 minutes but rounded it to 1 hour
whats diffrent about theyr placement
Gem shop or cogs that boost speed to flags
less cogs can buff ur chars
the excogias are a board wide buff
so they dont need to be close
so being on bm = no trap time? good to keep in mind
no, you can stay active on any character
just dont spend time on character selection screen
traps dont behave like lab/divinity altar/cooking
sooo What everything boosts my construction xp gain ? 😀
Oh okay thanks for the info
@sleek pollen sorry for the tags, one other question: lets say I have the 75 gs challenge, I finish that, I should get the 100.000s CC one, right?
!merit3
1️⃣ One point into Telekinetic Storage which has an ability to deposit all items in your inventory into the chest while destroying everything on the ground. This is a great quality of life feature. Skip this if you have the ram companion.
2️⃣ Buy until you have 3 building spots and 3 food slots. This can be between 0 and 2 purchases depending on gem shop purchases. Food slots will help your pusher go faster and 3 building spots is a 50% construction speed boost.
3️⃣ Talent levels are hugely important and the library should be used as much as possible.
4️⃣ The 3D printer will be how you get most of you skilling materials in the future. To make good use of it you need your sample size to be as close to the 90% cap as possible.
5️⃣ Buy the rest. More slots = more better.
6️⃣ Leveling telekinetic storage gives up to +13.6% Carry Cap which is good for afking longer, stamps and crafting, but is not a priority early on.
7️⃣ You won't get enough points to consider buying respawn for a long time by which you will have cleared all W3 portals.
Get the first level when you reach rank 3 on orange salt and get another level each time a new salt reaches rank 3.
⚔️ The last recipe is for the Chizoars Caustic Scarf which is best in slot for a long time giving both damage and respawn. Get this when you can complete the associated task of beating Chizoar with 8 characters. Other recipes are for Chizoar gear. The helmet gives +15% damage and can be considered if you are making purple salt. The other pieces are mediocre but some make the chestplate for 3% damage.
Yeah one work in that, should be in Eid the easiest one once you have ancient fury
Also damn 75 gs already? Or hypothetical?
I'm at 41 gs rn, gonna do the other 34 on ES when I finish farming out power statues
tbf the CC challenge is instacompleted 
Ah alr just do all skilling ressources, first few anvil production items, food from shops and yeah mob drop with ES
I should give my shrines some more love in construction, 109/140 for the challenge
134 
Just got my shrines to level like a few days ago
Imma start leveling them in the construction tab after finishing some towers
I wanna finish bravery up till like 2k, then everyone back to lab jail
does dr matter for class xp?
cant really sleep on bravery bonuses, they are so good 🥵
Don’t think so?
it shouldnt 
When justice 2k tho
is that a i'm sure or is that a i think
I think it doesnt, I mean they are separate stats in your character sheet
should, so maybe or not
so yeah, if my math is mathing, bravery should reach 2000 tomorrow(?)
20k?
nah I wish 
Gonna do lab 75 and div 40 after?
THEN DO
I mean I miss div40 on maybe 1 or 2 characters
already got multitool a couple of days ago 😩
sweet sweet bonuses
Yeah guys I kinda found my problems lol
🙄
i'm mega close to 24k hours after wich i can switch to justice
Max w3 skill box on all char beside maybe trap unless hunter
what w3 skill box
Nvm fuck it max even trap
W3 skill : trapping, worship, construction
Box : see po box
Now do the math and see what w3 skill box are
I know what u mean but its hard to understand what are you typing 😭💀
Should I focus on trying to getting the vman quest done when only at lvl 120 or wait till later?
For world 1 it's has 1 mil each other than wood mush. But other worlds or not as good
I'd do those first, obviously not on maestro
I only started doing vman quest in w5 because gets faster with a bonus there
So don't bother with the 1 mil each rn?
what affects vman from w5? 
But you could always get your BB doing them if you can free him from lab without losing much
Nobi
oh shit right
I always forget to switch pocket div for nobi when I attempt a new speedrun
Non doot enjoyer problem 
So let me get this right get the 1 mil for each world but don't bother with the mush kill for maestro just yet
yes
Well in w5 there’s another bonus to make your kill count x2, like killer brightside it’ll make it easier.
But you could always start doing 1mil death note with BB now, so you can farm his chow as well. Vman gmush kills up to you tbh, starting now and get to w5 asap to make it faster
Ty yall the goats
W4 skill
I just reached w4 and I put all my characters on it but there’s no progress bar or something I can see
Also the first jail you’ll ever go
Rachit, you sweet summer child 
You get xp by afking there, there’s node on the mainframe, you want to connect to them by making a line with the char to connect the light from the prism of the far left to the lab node
At first you only get so few xp per hour (proly 1), and you GOTTA claim on the hour I reckon
Ah okay I just did that makes sense, thanks !
Lab node bonus can go from dmg bonus, money, slower liquid but higher cap, double stamps bonus, x2 prints, x3 ref, NBLB, killer brightside (make your kill counts x2 for portal and death note) etc etc
Ideally you’d want to get that last one I said killer brightside (lab node with skulls)
shound i use a cosmic candy?
Thanks :)
Also I’d recommend you push all your char to their elites first before pushing to w5.
Order I’d say you should do is : shaman (to bubo for lab talent bonus ) > hunter (to beast master for breeding talent bonus) > wizard (to elemental sorcerer so you can farm tons of mob mats easier) > any
is using a cosmic candy gambling
Save candy for when farming rare shit or to push faster
Basically
Never had more than 1 day worth of time with it
Tbh I was afk for like a year and came back a week ago. Due to the huge exp gain I was able to level up and push to w4 so I’m trying to get my other skills to the sameish level
im almost in w4
You could have all your char skill level at 15 (beside their specialized skill ofc) to get gold tools
im trying to get a jman
Guys, if I understand this correctly, this qualifies for the dmg increase for DK right?
ES + a weekend and I was done 
Yes
Thanks! I couldn't find any confirmation of it. I guess we gotta do maths then!
Well either farm snowflake or pop opols then snowflakes after
on the way to 500
does the time clocks act like time candys
or nah?
oh i thought it cound give like afk gains lke time candys
Whats are the biggest sources of construction xp gains?
945 power statues left 
call me bob
Bubbles and squire talents I reckon
no
I thought it would be harder to get the fight power for these spices
I mean you got 3 tsars 
Choco chip has been acquired
40~50k is also too
P.O. Box construction
epic
Probably yeah if they boost all skill exp but I doubt they do
whats in w4
bro asks for construction xp gain, I tell him the exact same answer, says no
nuff said 
i can almost get the anvil tab 3 
i only need about 200 more bloatches and about 1600 more fruit flys
i shound have everything i need tomorrow
Your elite classes and jail
hey guys i have to test something real quick on discord: Is this my name Furmany IGN: gsfhdusgushgol ?
I should actually replace converter with flashy
yis
my first elite will be BB
dont you actually need converter if you have it unlocked?
how good is blood berserker
well converter gets you more spices but you only need a single one for the last ones
it's good for afk, you can get all the elites in a single session with candy though
Shit
Also I’d recommend you push all your char to their elites first before pushing to w5.
Order I’d say you should do is : shaman (to bubo for lab talent bonus ) > hunter (to beast master for breeding talent bonus) > wizard (to elemental sorcerer so you can farm tons of mob mats easier) > any
is bad?
dedicated cook, until master class, and even then master class only have bone update that make its ok to use. beside bone it doesnt bring anything to use active over skiling
or over other classes
Well you won’t use him to cook in w4 because it’s slow af, he’s only good at afk pushing but in w4+ you’d want to push actively with either DK or ES (squire or wizard elite class)
Even though you can do the quest on all chars, doing onyx statues for the first time unlocks them for everyone right?
yes
109 power statues left 
Meme what's ur uhhh db? Level
whats urs 
550 I think, I'm just tryna see till what level I should push him
low
I'm active at guardians now to increase it
And what's it at
And how long is it taking you to get a level
And at what level do u plan to stop
W6 gonna be slow asf
that's only if you ignore the w6 skills and the hole
For wraith?
Oh yeah it's gonna take forever to get to w6
I mean I'm mid w4 now
If possible (I imagine yes)
w4 is the hardest curve
I had inv full tonight so lost a lot of progress (I'm malding)
smh
It can be regained
also I'm hitting 10 mill damage again
almost at flying worms, whichll be the next big milestone for acc grind
nearly 2x better then tvs and a far better map
I'm not even in w3 o.o
greeting chat I am back from my 45 days break to see more glorious content
first master class is great
barbarian players can now enjoy their class
I liked barb even before
yeah they got hate for not being good but now they have the only master class
nah bb was good anyways
now no one can get off the class lmao
people just never gave him a chance
it's cause active DB has insane bonuses
true, I also have 2000 arcade balls to spend now
after people get the bonuses, people will go back to dk or someone
i see that, ive just unlocked DB now, gunna be a long ride because my db is only lvl 323 and other lvls arent the best either
my best was 6 days out of one
does crystal custard really only give 1 gold coin? like crystal carrot
depends on your monster cash %
it also scales on the mob type
yeah well as a base drop, idk how to see monster cash %
a purp mush crystal is gonna drop far less then a clammie
wait what?
whats a clammie?
The Crystal Monsters are rare mini-boss spawns that have a 1 in 2,000 chance to spawn whenever you actively kill an enemy. It has 15x HP, 30x Exp, 2.5x accuracy required, and does 2.5x more damage than monsters in your current area.
oh so all crystal mobs are the same
just visually they change depending on which zone ur in?
each world has its own crystal mob that will spawn
which world but yeah
oh then its logical. but which zone does crystal island use?
all of them
all worlds you have access to, scaled on the last mob of the crystal type
oh okay thats good to know thanks
so a w3 crystal would scale with neptunes. a w6 would scale with guardians
hey I got 400 gems from my 2200 arcade balls
yee, thats why crystal custards are so extremely strong
DAMMM
I think yesterday I got 450 from a 1.3k stockpile
xDD thats incredibly nice
the important part is that I maxed my gold ball gain and have a 25k stockpile of them now
i got 1154 gems from 2651 balls
true gotta do that
the real prize I got was the 72 hour candy that was waiting on my second inventory page
oh its so over I left my miner on motherload and now i'll never get my mman bonus ever again because of the level difference
Bound to happen with hole skilling resources, you’ll just spend shit ton of time on godshard or less shit ton of time but no afk on marble at the equinox
Can't be helped, i'll have to live with it for now
Am i going crazy or is there not a pet in breeding that gives a chance for spice from the below territories?
Not sure I haven't unlocked all the pets in breeding
That’s a bonus else where I reckon?
looter
it's very rare
Thanks! I thought I wasn't remembering correctly but could've sworn there was one.
Does anyone have a good build that could get me through world 3?
I'm on the 3rd map before chizoar
Where do I meet Owlio?
Yo, if I send my idleon toolbox in here could someone take a quick look over it and tell me what needs work, don't need to go in depth just need some type of guidance
Owlio is a critter inside the acorn tree in w1
If you meant Orion the owl that's at the portal that you can go through next to the bleach tree in w1
what gear you got?
Full amarok, w3 stones and 2 of the dungeon defence rings
then you're fine in terms of gear
in fact that's overkill
make sure to use healing food to help with survivability, same for hemoglobin (star talent from merit 1)
anyone have the sheet for TD ?
!guide Tower Defense tab (first guide) @zinc saffron
Mid-Late Game guide for World 3 / 4 / 5:
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/e/2PACX-1vSCepYAs6sNDP4iq6MJNAG1pvFXzfC_3IQ7ttt5vfEEKAgQhIk4cQqnLRyeH6UyqDSuP4R-6WQeDmmP/pubhtml
Video Guides (by GriffyBit):
https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLVGSDQs1AcvjYTAPtYV6ofbeeEfHpEcb4
What do ribbons do again, I just bought the pack where it gives you 5 random ribbons every day
Meal bonus multi
For Squire what increase his dmg?
!guide fishing
Mid-Late Game guide for World 3 / 4 / 5:
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/e/2PACX-1vSCepYAs6sNDP4iq6MJNAG1pvFXzfC_3IQ7ttt5vfEEKAgQhIk4cQqnLRyeH6UyqDSuP4R-6WQeDmmP/pubhtml
Video Guides (by GriffyBit):
https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLVGSDQs1AcvjYTAPtYV6ofbeeEfHpEcb4
Well unless you’re w6 and have BB’s master class, ribbons are practically useless for you
How come?
!fishchart
To unlock the menu to use ribbons you first need to unlock it from something that comes with his master class
Nope, I got the pack and it unlocked the menu
Ohh okay and you’re not w6?
Are you done with uni old man?
Nope w4
No finished in 2 hours
Oh okay I guess once the pack is bought you can use ribbons without the master class then
Only 80 years old like you would finish uni at 2am smh
Yep
That’ll be 4 then because 2 + 2
And also pm
Actually you can also if you just wait a day or buy a ribbon from shop i think
Because the earth is round I think?
Yeah I’d guess it’s if you get a ribbon from anywhere but still got me scammed like 1k bones when I could’ve upgraded something better
Someone used a gstopwatch and unlocked em before unlocking ribbons from bone shop, and I unlocked em by buying em from gemshop
It's nothing luckily
Yeah I know
ludwig do u have all pristine charms
Actually it's not a scam it's a +1 upgrade fr fr
Hmhm 👁️ C
Yes, have had em all since basically forever
True
Do i need to rank up my refinery for squire to get dmg?
Ahh okay
if u have this talent leveled then yes
recommended lvl for it is 11(?), so level it up a bit
Ah so dont use it for now?
use it now
Ahh okay
but you'd want to get it to 11 eventually
Alrighty thank you
its maybe one of the few you always equip
always equip unless u can get 90% sample rate without it
Okay
I sorta forgot to progress on my 2nd DK to Monolith so, soon onyx 
does turning in the goldric cards quest not allow me to gain those cards again
probably yeah
damn I heard somewhere theyre very easy to greenstack using an ES
I think thats vman job
Yea
its when ur mk actually goes up high
What is mk
multikill
Yeah percentage
pop and dice obols
Ahh okay
yo when is dungeon happy hour
bro 2 am is crazy 
which timezone tho 
idc about hh, I was curious about theirs
oh 9 pm lmao
just done my first 2 chests from sailing and got an artifact in both is that lucky or normal?
guys should i make a second squire for my 8th character for construction?
or something else for farming death note
Theres some guide to what characters you should have or whatever
I personally made a second squire.
Cause constructions been really slow.
wrong channel but first few artifact should be somewhat easy, as the less you have the more chance you have to find one usually
yeah 100% your first double class should always be DK so your construction get boosted more
how do you make these numbers
also the potion throwing skill for shaman is only for afk gains right?
bc i tried active and the AI cant throw any potions
by being endgame
and yeah
did the recent update even have any major damage bonuses
yes
is DB damage good?
basically all the multiple and different dmg bonus that you accumulate over time, them late/endgame players has them maxed or as high as possible
is that amount of damage able to 1 shot almost everything
easily
ye
1Sx is the highest hp enemy stat in the game. we can reach e25 hits
which is 1000x higher
does that hit the 52mk tier?
i will wonder how much w6 boss will have since Lava will have to counter those damages
not at guardians
boss card of emperor has it hp already
tho might change?
nightmare emperor is who has 1Sx
idk, i never open packs so i dont have them
ight
it'll need to be buffed ig
no
yeah buff it so 'new' w6 player cant push 
who's the hottest class
end gamers are excpected to be able to
don't nerf new players because old players play for longer
if lava makes it a challenge for end game players imagine how hard it'll be for a player that just hit w6
I think its BB
what is the reason Lava takes to long to release new worlds?
1 year or so per one isn't long
whats the coldest class?
im asking for the Reason
because spam updating a game is how you kill it
with major content
uh oh i think i just realized i screwd myself hard. I have completed funguy quest on all my chars and thrown away the silver stopwatch every time, is it possible to get a new one? Trying to make zero point stopwatch
esp since a new world takes like 5 months to code on itself for basic stuff
probably takes lava a long time to animate the mobs
nope
So that's what the death guy looks like
so Lava already have a bunch of world hes just waiting to release?
where would i get another silver stopwatch? wiki says "Funguy" only source to get it
if only coding was that easy
you can't.
suffer
it's why you keep quest only items
so why am i not screwed lol how do i make a zero point stopwatch
no +3 slab and no bis skilling ring
you cant
copy worlds and just make new mechanics, animations, mobs, pigs, quest giver,...
I never said you weren't screwed
not how it works
wdym?
especially since games get improved on. it's not just copy paste
oh right lmao i just noticed u said no to the other guy. yep im fully screwed lmao
i mean hes just getting the layout and the floor mechanics, just make new things
each new world needs new art, development ideas, actual coding, bug fixing, translation, rebalancing, room design, new skills, everything related to the skills, art for every mob with animations
and that's bare bones development
translation?
world background and all the shit that comes with it
I've probably missed so much off the list
transla-what?
oh i just realised you can change languages
the game isn't only in english
just play english because some quests CANT be completed in anything other than english
which ones?
oh right repeat bug fixing for every supported language
no idea, proly the quests with item you need to give to an npc
well im fine with idleon's updating schedule but idk, why is he doing solo?
cause it's hard to get other people to develop a game in ur own image
it's why indie games are always small teams
it's also why all the big games can't follow one track of thought
because it's not one person doing it.
it physically cant
unless you find out how to mind read anyways
Slightly OP..
just clone yourself
LavaFlame3 LavaFlame4 LavaFlame5
now who is LavaFlame1? where is he?
Dead..

Wth why my dmg goes down when i upgraded my gear
lavaflame2's retired dad
apply upgrade stones
I put main stat and goes down lol
DB just nukes the entire screen, and that base damage is pretty cool too. Also my first run with RNG voucher
Yea upgrade stone that make it
what class are you on
ES
upgrade stones make it go down?
Yea
how is that possible
Dunno lol
what did you upgrade
From total 340 to 280
did you upgrade your weapon or armor or tools
armor
Some gear gives dmg%
from what to what
does your damage go up if you take the armor off or smth
Not that i know of
dead chat

i've almost got all 6 elitess
Why can these go in the fence yard?
Only pet with the breeder type or shiny can go in it, and you get breeder type in one of the first few upgrade from breeding and shiny is the upgrade unlocked ar lvl 40
Yeah, and these got neither
Oh wait nvm misunderstood the question breeder type and shiny are the only one who benefits from being in the yard, normal pets no
Gz
And you’re not gonna like it
Oh, alright, cause some others I have can't go in it cause it says only breeder and shiny
So was wondering why these can go, and if there's any point for them to be in there
I think it’s the ones you have got a breeder type or something like that
nope
Don’t worry about it normal pet do nothing in yard as far as I know
It happened to me too before I even unlocked the breedability upgrade
Welp I don’t fucking know 
Lmao
I think there might be a hidden tag on certains pets for them being shiny/breedable, but if you dont have those upgrade unlocked the tag is there but you dont actually have them as shiny/breedable
ooh is it space themed??
but since the tag is there it will let you put the pet in the fenceyard
Space aliens and weird shit I’d say
Does the drop rate or total drop rate affect skills?
I finally pushed myself to move all my trap boxes it's annoying😔
Yeah more chance to get the rare bag
fr
can't wait for w6 it'll be sick
seems so chill
If you rush though you’ll be busy with a lot of backtracking tho, maybe that the kind of chill you want tho
how do I turn off badumdum auto attack in breeding
You should be able to tap it before you begin the battle
So it'll show an X instead of a check
i'm so excited to unlock my last elite class before I can start pushing again
i still don't have ice hammer even though i'm at choccies 😭
might explain my low kph
i am NOT cooking
i'm getting close to crafting the ice weapons though
Hey all, just getting up to w3 worship to try to unlock the anvil4. i've tried playing 4 times, I know i've at least killed off a couple rounds each try, though after playing it shows 0 rounds completed, no soul or xp gain.... does anyone know if there is a minimum round required to begin collecting souls, or would this be a bug?
you may be cooking, as in in the next moments of this current timeline, you may have been "cooking", or in this present moment in this timeline, you are "cooking". But what is the definition of "cooking"? Well, cooking is the word used to define a humanoid of the genus homo converting inedible nutrients into an edible nutrient soup, which when consumed, starts cellular respiration.
does anyone know why i randomly hit 10m damage when i normally only hit for like 700k-1m damage on my dk
is it an ability?
crit?
don't forget abilitys have their own damage scaling, your damage stat is only for auto attacks
ah true
Have you cleared the previous world’s worships? You kind of need to work backwards with worship so it’s hard to do the most current
You gotta work on your tower levels in construction to make them stronger
This has a good layout for what you should be aiming for on tower defence