midgame-chat-w3🧊w4🔮

[zenith hare]

!merit4

[candid scarab]

1️⃣ Buy one point of spice spillage. This gives you up to a 20% chance to claim all your spices when claiming over an hour of afk gains. Since spices generate more slowly the more you have produced since last claim this will improve spice production.
2️⃣ Having more bubbles get upgraded each day will help a lot, especially when combined with buffs giving more levels per bubble. Only buy this if you can reach the No Bubble Left Behind node in the lab.
3️⃣ Egg capacity is limited and every time the hatchery fills up eggs are wasted until you unlock the rarity upgrade. Also helps you get two achievements with good rewards requiring egg capacity.
4️⃣ Allows you to connect to lab bonuses from slightly farther away which can reduce the number of characters needed in the lab. Note that the max distance between characters, which is called line width, doesn't increase.
5️⃣ Improves kills per hour in W4 but since you likely won't be pushing W4 portals for long this is relatively low priority.
6️⃣ Max level spice spillage triggers every time. They are lower priority since it takes a lot of star talent points and is likely to trigger several times in a row when checking multiple characters.
7️⃣ 3 crystal mobs per day is very little.
Unlocks the recipes for troll armor giving all stat% and the base for all further armor upgrades. It is great but require plenty of Nullo Salt. Don't buy it if you can't craft them.

[zenith hare]

as an example ones on that

given you should get that last

[pine fiber]

thought I should kill my w4 minibosses so I brought DK 98 eggs, 495 ladles

[stiff vigil]

yeah i dont have it upgraded but the star talent for extra crystal mobs rng is probablt giving me good spawns

[elder cradle]

@zenith hare thanks for the help with the last spice

[sleek stone]

Damn you need 15hours afk in kitchen then we can continue the game?

[zenith hare]

minutes

[sleek stone]

Ahh okay i though

[candid stone]

does bubonic conjurers essence tranferral work? ive had it going for over a week and none of my other characters have leveled their lab beyond what i had them level to themselves (7/9/7/9/10/20/6/8)

ive had it with skill convertor both on and off

and if it matters my bubo is sitting in the test tube lab thing by himself everyone else is doing other things

[kindred talon]

When printing, do the resources go straight into your chest?

Or do i have to claim them or smth like that

[bleak sleet]

Straight to chest

[kindred talon]

Epic

[shy ruin]

don't other players have to be in the lab as well

cuz that's literally what the essence transferral icon is

[cold wraith]

wtf my afk gain robe from the bundle is gone

nvm im js blind

[zinc bison]

is 80 max super chow?

[jagged estuary]

my bubo refuses to use his abilities?

is there a reason for this

[zinc bison]

no buffs will recast until the existing buff has less than 5 seconds remaining on it

[blazing arch]

does t3 of each boss count as 3 unique portals in speedrun or just 1

[slim mantle]

3

[blazing arch]

w

[harsh nebula]

yall i need help with an achieve (space party), anyone willing to help?

server: dice 20

[indigo stratus]

[dreamy schooner]

Hey yall I’m a returning player and I have a barbarian and a couple of other classes idk really what I’m doing but I’m on the snow world rn any help would be greatly appreciated I can show all my classes and things in DMs or wtv don’t wanna overload the chat just tryna figure out where to go from here in the game

[bleak sleet]

I just arrived to W4, don't even have 100% survivability on purple spores
Tried out toxic sludge on mushrooms, had a nasty surprise

[pine fiber]

what a waste of minibosses

[stiff vigil]

buy the w4 food either the cupcake or the ribs and youll be sweet

or increase damage/accuracy for extra survivability

[stable valve]

what world 4 merits should you prioritise

[bleak sleet]

accuracy is fine enough, but my defense against these sucks

[bleak sleet]

W4 food is smart tho

[harsh nebula]

food will help a lot, minimum the plat bag (recipe is 4 golden meat pies, dropped by all w2 monsters, annd 4 nuget cakes, self-explanatory)!
a suggestion from me is to push all your char's to elite classes, then push to w5 with either class, preferably elemental sorcerer or blood berserker/divine knight.

Also, lab will help plenty

[bleak sleet]

Not sure what lab can bring to me
For now I can be getting this, I'll try to level up to see if anything more happens

[brave crater]

So erm push for an elite class on one character then put all of them on lab/GET DK FIRST

[shy ruin]

second bonus doubles your printer output for all characters in the tubes

[sleek pollen]

longer you stay in lab, more exp you'll get and eventually your char will get more lab lvl so more line width to go further

[shy ruin]

3rd bonus triples refinery speed

killer's brightside is also very useful, each kill is worth 2 kills iirc

[brave crater]

Push for 4th instead of 3 ngl u can get 3 anyways bc it is right next to it. This is ment to help Owoog

[shy ruin]

oh yeah

[plush blade]

Woohoo world 4!!!

What do I do first here

[sleek stone]

Damn so much arrive at world 4 this day

[sleek stone]

Do the quest at top

Also all go to lab unless the char you use to push for elite class

[zenith heart]

How do I submit a bug report?

[sleek stone]

#bug-reports-🐛

Guys is it worth it to buy this?

Since it is limited

[north compass]

its really strong for damage, so its not horrible, but also not top priority

[sleek stone]

Ahh okay

[sleek stone]

How bout the head?

[north compass]

useful in w6, useless other than that

[sleek stone]

Does it will come again if its gone in gem shop?

[north compass]

it might come back eventually in limited specials

[sleek stone]

Ahh okay

I though it would be limited one time only

[torpid acorn]

nah thats scummy and lava isnt that bad

[zealous flare]

how does one get ribbons

i know there's that pack with getting 5/day or smth

[zenith hare]

he is that bad anyways, but deathbloom isn't the best pendant

[zealous flare]

but beyond that, is there a specific way other than that

[zenith hare]

you need death bringer

[zealous flare]

ah that is something that's not happening for a good little while (midway thru w5 atm)

[torpid acorn]

its mostly for W6

[zenith hare]

you can def get it within a month

if you try

[torpid acorn]

he doesnt like advertise it tho, some stuff is limited but i havnt seen much scummy money grab tactic from him

[torpid acorn]

or if you swipe

[zenith hare]

I don't mean it as in the packs themselves

[zealous flare]

probably but i've got other priorities, including trying to un-salt lock myself (it's not exactly a salt lock, but i'm lacking a lot of potential upgrades that are salt dependant) 🫠

[zenith hare]

most packs are fair game and are what they should be

[zealous flare]

such as lustre armor upgrades

off the top of me head

[zenith hare]

you can't rush that. the only way to speed that up is to progress faster to get construction mastery (not skill mastery)

and do top half chiz instead

cheaper and gives more stats

[zealous flare]

chiz?

[zenith hare]

chizoar

[zealous flare]

ah

[torpid acorn]

!gear

[zenith hare]

!gear

[candid scarab]

Gear Recommendations

Gear Recommendations

[torpid acorn]

lol

[zenith hare]

looks like that in the w5 section

[zealous flare]

lmao

[torpid acorn]

you can do it without tho, ive been running a half assed void build and im late W5 now

[zenith hare]

you can do it with amarok

[torpid acorn]

you can do anything with amarok lmao

[zealous flare]

i mean this is what my main guy is sitting on (siege breaker, yes i'm aware that's not the best class to push with)

[zenith hare]

can't craft godshard with amarok :3

[zenith hare]

SB is alright, gets really good after you onyx statues

[torpid acorn]

your better than me lmao

beside me using ES

[zealous flare]

that does help

[brave crater]

Can I still get the idle skilling trophy or nah?

[zenith hare]

yeah

[zealous flare]

yes with the idle skilling game

[zenith hare]

you must do it on steam version though

[zealous flare]

its free as well on steam go thru there

[zenith hare]

mobile doesn't work, and you can't transfer data between

[torpid acorn]

yep

[brave crater]

Welp I’m never getting that trophy

[zealous flare]

its free on steam and doesn't take much to run mate

shouldn't be all that difficult

[torpid acorn]

ive been touching it occasionally but i dislike playing idle skilling

[zenith hare]

it takes a week if you try hard it

[zealous flare]

same here tbf

[zenith hare]

I still haven't finished it tbh

[wind hamlet]

I haven't played it yet

[brave crater]

I’ve had it for like 3 weeks

[zenith hare]

I've had it for 9 months

I've not logged in 7

[torpid acorn]

i played it near when it first game out i think years and years ago

[fossil hatch]

Ha

[torpid acorn]

on mobile tho

[zenith hare]

yeah it's what first got me into idleon

[fossil hatch]

Idk how long I’ve had the game downloaded

[zenith hare]

the crossover event made me aware of idleon

[torpid acorn]

i dont remember what got me into idleon

[fossil hatch]

Uhhh 🤔 I played before idleon came out, but not alot

[lapis lance]

how do you save worship progress again?

[torpid acorn]

should be a button at the top if youve gotten all the savey things

[zenith hare]

haven't actually done td since the save feature was released ¯_(ツ)_/¯

[fossil hatch]

I’ve had idle Skilling for like… 4 years?

[torpid acorn]

bro...

[fossil hatch]

Only really played for about a year or so

[zenith hare]

I've no reason to do td

[torpid acorn]

fair ig

[white path]

u need 1000 worship flopp discs

[lapis lance]

oh pog

[brave crater]

I got onto Idleon because I played idle skilling for 4 months then I quit and lost my data and I thought Idleon would be good so I tried it then I’ve been hooked for like 3 months.

[zenith hare]

it be kewl

[fossil hatch]

I love DB rn

[white path]

I hate worship

[fossil hatch]

Sitting at Sheepie for days now

[zenith hare]

I started...about 1.5 years ago now

[fossil hatch]

When will I be good enough to move on lava

[brave crater]

140s mines like 100

[zenith hare]

I'm probably higher then that now due to DB bonuses

[white path]

I have level 100 poisonic elders tho

[brave crater]

On siege, oh must be quick slap

[white path]

could probably get to 200 if I wanted to

[zenith hare]

nope

that was nerfed into the ground a year ago

[fossil hatch]

No

[brave crater]

Ik

[zenith hare]

it's just his move speed talent

[fossil hatch]

If that was still there, I’d have prolly hit E damage by now

[zenith hare]

the bubble adds like...at most 1% damage

max

[fossil hatch]

Stat page damage

[brave crater]

Oh my quick slap is lvl 100

So uh

[zenith hare]

many people would've, mainly due to dragon statue

[zenith hare]

mines 400

[fossil hatch]

Ahaha this is were I don’t comment on mine

[white path]

I think scaling on QS used to be exponential now its flat

[zenith hare]

meds

[fossil hatch]

Yea lmao

[zenith hare]

wasn't it like 15k?

[fossil hatch]

What was it uhh. I can find it

[torpid acorn]

[fossil hatch]

Higher iirc

[zenith hare]

it was bige

[brave crater]

So uh why am I not hitting multi kill

[white path]

thats accuracy not damage

[fossil hatch]

Last saved ss, and I normally save most ss like these and move it too a different folder

[zenith hare]

bige

[brave crater]

I AHVE 5m dmg ON MY beast master so I think I’m cooked

[fossil hatch]

Now I can tell, this guy right here! Is most definitely hitting mobs with huge green E numbers

[zenith hare]

dw ab it

those numbers are vastly off nowadays

this is it nowadays

and we have more movespeed then before by nearly 2x

[fossil hatch]

Not only that, but old QS would scale insanely hard now. Because the speed you can actually go at now is way higher than back then

People had 500-600 speed with old qs and the damage was a lot

Now imagine someone with 2000% movement speed and a level 30k qs 🤣

[zenith hare]

we can reach 5k%

[white path]

new vs old QS

[zenith hare]

at least my sb can with quad potions

[fossil hatch]

Guys save me

My pc hasn’t turned off since the update

[zenith hare]

mine neither

Where's ur db at?

[fossil hatch]

I need more bones!

[fossil hatch]

Uhh, ya know. He’s out there

[vagrant imp]

do ribbons combine on meals or only in inventory?

[fossil hatch]

I’m almost ready for w4

Just farming Sheepie

[torpid acorn]

on meals too

[wheat gulch]

mines at sheepie currently

[zenith hare]

they do yeah

[zenith hare]

idk ab that

the acc req is massive...

[torpid acorn]

my comps been on for over two weeks and im not even W6

[zenith hare]

I'm only at 3k acc now

[white lintel]

acc is hard

[torpid acorn]

im just ruthlessly pushing with ES

[white path]

when do u ever turn it off

[fossil hatch]

This

[fossil hatch]

That’s why I’m at Sheepie

[white path]

weren't u active bubo 24/7 before the update

[fossil hatch]

I’m ready in every aspect besides accuracy

[fossil hatch]

Uhh, no.

[zenith hare]

you won't be ready for acc for a while

[fossil hatch]

I know

[zenith hare]

my main goal rn is to make every upgrade to cost 1mill or higher

[fossil hatch]

You don’t have that already?

[zenith hare]

I ignored it for a while

[fossil hatch]

Damn… I felt like you progressed fast enough at the start. To have that lmao

[zenith hare]

done femurs now

doing Jaws at bloque now

[fossil hatch]

I’m just farming for “%bones” rn

[white lintel]

prob shouldve done bone grind through the night but I did CC instead for grind time. I feel like I have no talent points

[zenith hare]

maybe just do raw active DB at guardians

for class levels

[white lintel]

thats what I did this morning

[fossil hatch]

My daily ribbons

Are ass btw, terrible

[brave crater]

I was checking my cooked ppl then I look at my lab slave the squire I haven’t upgraded to Dk

[zenith hare]

I got a level 5 today :3

[white lintel]

Im kinda surprised that you can combine ribbons that are already on meals

[fossil hatch]

all were kinda mid

[white lintel]

wheres T3 acc buff?

[zenith hare]

it's quite a ways away

[worthy sail]

Is it worth to keep vman rank 1 for smithing?

[white lintel]

:(

[zenith hare]

I'm still 3 away of it

[fossil hatch]

Doesn’t matter much

[zenith hare]

should come naturally tbh, but doesn't matter

[fossil hatch]

I still craft with archer for the bonus

[white lintel]

im on t2 health rn

[worthy sail]

more exp for everyone if he is rank 1 smithing, but i kinda wanna craft with archer only

[zenith hare]

I'm on crop research rn

[zenith hare]

then do so

[fossil hatch]

Mmm, so lava

Wanna add another accuracy source? That would be nice

For wraith form

[sleek stone]

Btw do i have to farm equip to push or just push with current equip to get class elite?

[white lintel]

idk how anyone could ever get to w6 in wraith form

[zenith hare]

nah its fine as is rn

breezing through it would be too fast

[fossil hatch]

The goal atm. Isn’t reaching that for him I believe

[white lintel]

amarok armor with w4 stones

[zenith hare]

esp with how op all bonuses are

[sleek stone]

Ahh yeah forgot about it

[fossil hatch]

The other classes haven’t dropped either

[zenith hare]

tbh once you break through w4, it'll be easy

[sleek stone]

Thank you for reminding

How about the wep?

[fossil hatch]

This is nice! I’ll be working on an elite class still, when another comes out

[zenith hare]

w5 doesn't change acc much. and w6 barely changed till the end

[fossil hatch]

I just hope I don’t have to put this much effort into that character also

[zenith hare]

I doubt everyone will be active

db it makes sense to be killing stuff

[fossil hatch]

I can already see the vman-Skilling

[zenith hare]

Royal guard could be TD related somehow as an example

[fossil hatch]

Possibly

Maybe make it so his damage can go above 1

[zenith hare]

yes

let us get wave 300

[fossil hatch]

I’m all down for waiting a couple years in td

[zenith hare]

means td scales with refinery

[fossil hatch]

Anyways, time to go make dinner

[zenith hare]

food

give some

[fossil hatch]

Bye bye 👋 also John if your lurking. I’ll send the ss of my stats for db in DMs

[zenith hare]

I hungy

[fossil hatch]

Starve

[zenith hare]

nooooo

[fossil hatch]

Listen, here’s some inspiring advice

[zenith hare]

git gud

[fossil hatch]

Sell your gems, gain some coins. Buy some KEBAB sticks in w2

They actually really taste good man

[zenith hare]

I think muffins are better

[fossil hatch]

Why not both : )

[zenith hare]

hmmm

[fossil hatch]

I real idleon player would buy and eat a bobjoepickle every day

[zenith hare]

gotta take out the bonejoepickles

it's how w6 shop gets them

[fossil hatch]

real

[azure dagger]

This is my best recipe for Cheese? I need it ASAPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPP

[zenith hare]

probably

[rain flicker]

trying to push to demon genie with my wizard just struggling a bit with AFK kills currently sitting at 597 an hour idk how to improve it

[azure dagger]

Show AFK gains

[zenith hare]

get 100% survivability and 100% accuracy

[azure dagger]

stats too?

[zenith hare]

do you have ur attack talents on ur bar?

[zenith hare]

stats are likely fine, wizard is really good for damage

yeah 150k can reach base kph cap

[rain flicker]

attack talents are on bar and shrines are up

[zenith hare]

cards?

[azure dagger]

So you need multikill I reckon

[zenith hare]

rat won't help, same for xylobone

those two don't factor afk gains

[azure dagger]

You're hitting the part of the game where you now need to go back and start to tier up cards/gear/fish game/owl game to be able to push properly

Multikill is your friend

[zenith hare]

multi kill won't help when pushing

[rain flicker]

what would you sub in for those two cards and idk how to stack more multikill

[zenith hare]

only for gathering resources

you only achieve mk when pushing when you're mid-late w6

[zenith hare]

move speed and fighting afk gains. boop secret mob card in w1 sewers is a good one

[azure dagger]

Ah yeah fair enough, point still stands that he needs to go back and do so much to increase his damage it shouldn't be that low

[zenith hare]

also defence from equipment is fine

[zenith hare]

no the damage is dine

es can beat troll at 500k damage

that's at the end of w4. they're at the start

they have plenty of time

[azure dagger]

I rushed to where he's at last week and I was doing 1.5m at that point on my main and getting 2500/hr, I then swapped to my char with similar stats to this and had the same thing of 300-500/hr

[rain flicker]

yeah my BB and DK are up at 4k each

just trying to fill out elite classes

[zenith hare]

2k is the top rushers get, and that's with the lab node active

1kish is the base cap

[azure dagger]

wsax bro I was literally feeling your struggle for the last week haha, get some efaunt gear on this char

[zenith hare]

unless you gained some w6 card or a pack for afk%

efuant gear sucks :3

[rain flicker]

aiming for dementia is efaunt better?

[zenith hare]

it's worse then dementia

and far harder to get

[rain flicker]

any specific reason or just stats?

[zenith hare]

it just is too expensive

[azure dagger]

If you can go dementia do it because you will upgrade that into the new gear, but efaunt is just super easy

[zenith hare]

it's a waste of time that early on

[azure dagger]

well besides head

[zenith hare]

efuant is not easy

!gear

[candid scarab]

Gear Recommendations

[rain flicker]

im at dementia just stacking critters and bars to be able to craft it

[zenith hare]

w4 bit is what you should aim for by mid w4

[azure dagger]

Really? I put 0 thought into getting gear for it and when I went ot craft I had 4 sets ready to go

resources* not gear

[zenith hare]

then you were ready for w5 for ages

efuant is harder to get then chiz gear tbh

if you can get efuant, you might as well get chiz

[azure dagger]

My account is just under 2 months and ~£50 spent so idk how I was so prepared

and no IE or any tool to help

[zenith hare]

because the packs

if you got the phonix pack or the robe pack, those alone are massive bonuses

[azure dagger]

let me check i don't remember

[zenith hare]

assume people don't have them unless they prove otherwise

[azure dagger]

Timeless/Riftwalker/Sacred Methods atm

[zenith hare]

timeless and scared methods are quite op for early progression

can't remember what's in riftwalker

timeless basically doubles ur afk gains

which is a double to ur kph

[rain flicker]

idk how to spec this for better afk gains

[zenith hare]

because that tab won't help you much

[sleek stone]

Nah that wont help

[zenith hare]

tab 1 and 2 are more defencive ly focused

[sleek stone]

Do alchemy

[zenith hare]

no alchemy isn't the first answer

[azure dagger]

idk if I'm even right, but is it just the "active spells" (ones with square border) that give afk rate increase and not others?

[zenith hare]

alchemy is the last answer. it's the last thing you need to do

[azure dagger]

You should be doing daily vials though and spending the liquid you do get

[sleek stone]

Damn i start with that lol

[zenith hare]

you can beat this game entirely without alchemy tbh

it's hard! mainly w6, but doable

[sleek stone]

Yeah its for pushing accuracy for me

[azure dagger]

I think ultimately you need to spend a bit of dosh on the packs if you want to keep up your progression speed or be a bit more patience

[zenith hare]

yeah that's its main early use case

[sleek stone]

Since its the only thing to push

[zenith hare]

f2p can get to w6 in a month if they know what to do

[sleek stone]

Also some tools efficiency for fast farmin

[azure dagger]

the thing is people are here to learn about the game, not discuss speedrunning tactics lol

atleast right now

[zenith hare]

well the basics to speed running is knowing what stuff progresses ur account

which tends to be the main advice people needs anyways

[cold wraith]

yikes my prints only went up by 10x /s

[azure dagger]

Is it normal to get to world 6 in a month?

[zenith hare]

more like 2-3

[cold wraith]

kinda yea if you rush

unless youre fully f2p

[zenith hare]

for an average person if they try

and also know where to look

[azure dagger]

Without the use of any 3rd party tool, f2p and first time playing the game?

[zenith hare]

as long as they get advice here

[zinc crater]

Not normal

[zenith hare]

completely blind...well idk

[zinc crater]

World 4 is taking me like a week for a single map on my pusher

[zenith hare]

took me 2 months to beat w5 when I started playing. before clickers, w6, etc

so couldn't even candy w5

only joined here when I entered w5 basically

[azure dagger]

f2p without 3rd party?

[zenith hare]

yup

[azure dagger]

Guess I'm just fkn dumb then

[zinc crater]

What 3rd party stuff is there

[zenith hare]

didn't get auto loot till a bit after

[zenith hare]

YouTube, idleon efficiency, idleon toolbox, and here

[zenith hare]

tbf I'm very maths based, so a lot of the main strategies I figured out on my own

[zinc crater]

Idk what toolbox or efficiency is.. hmm

[zenith hare]

!it

[candid scarab]

https://idleontoolbox.com/ - Unofficial 3rd party site made by Morojo

[wind hamlet]

website

[zenith hare]

!ie

[candid scarab]

https://idleonefficiency.com/ Unofficial 3rd party site made by Sludger

[azure dagger]

Yeah me too and I was proud of where I got without assistance tbh until now

[zenith hare]

I felt so small back then~

[wind hamlet]

I was happy without having any hints for a while

[zenith hare]

I remember roughly when I got my first 10 mill damage

[wind hamlet]

I got to w4 or late w3 without anything

[zenith hare]

look at me just over a year later..still can't believe I've made it this far

[azure dagger]

Yeah but most people are making it to w6 in a month

[wind hamlet]

this is an idle game, why the rush?

[sleek stone]

[azure dagger]

Scaling upgrades

passive scaling upgrades

[zenith hare]

your damage explodes massively when you almost beat sailing

[sleek stone]

Btw should push and other on lab on early w4 right?

[zenith hare]

went from 100mill to a T very quickly

[zenith hare]

yeah

get all elite classes first

[sleek stone]

Alrighty

Aftr that back to grinding?

[zenith hare]

yup

[sleek stone]

Damn refinery gonna be missin some material

[zenith hare]

printer solves that

Es and bm does monster mats, everyone else does the main mats you need

[sleek stone]

Yeah but i dont have vman on 7th so maybe later

[zenith hare]

Why's that matter

vman only becomes monster print late w5/early w6

[sleek stone]

Ahh

[zenith hare]

bm and es is best before then

[sleek stone]

So what should i rush for in order to elite class?

Currently es

[zenith hare]

do shamin and hunter first for w4 skills

[sleek stone]

Since its the first thing i use to push

[pallid carbon]

What pet setup should I use to get to round100 under 100 seconds?

[zenith hare]

then do barbarian, then wizard or squire, other archer last

[zenith hare]

off the top of my head: peashooter, peashooter, looter, looter, the hoop ring thing, tsar

hope to god looter can trigger refiller

[sleek stone]

Wait then i shoukd change to shaman?

[zenith hare]

can swap one looter to refiller

[zenith hare]

continue with wizard if you're close

[sleek stone]

Nah

[pallid carbon]

I'll try

[sleek stone]

Just start at stage 1

[zenith hare]

then is up to you~

[uneven schooner]

can someone help me with my sneaking ive been stuck at this one floor for so long and if i try to go to the next floor it says high detection but the floor im on says low detection what am i missing to get to the next floor?

[zenith hare]

can I see which artifacts you have on?

[uneven schooner]

ive got smoke bomb and silk veil

[zenith hare]

on everyone?

[uneven schooner]

yeah

nvm 2 of them dont have it

[zenith hare]

it's a good idea to give one person a scroll and veil to be ur main pusher

having 1/2 pushers with rest being buffers helps a lot

[uneven schooner]

ohhh

so not all of them need to get to the next level?

[zenith hare]

they all will be there

[uneven schooner]

just one or two with the highest level sneaking lvl

[zenith hare]

as to buff you must be on same level

well floor

[uneven schooner]

im stuck on the 7th floor rn

my sneaking lvl for most of them is like high 50s

do i just have to wait till they are higher or something

[zenith hare]

heres an example of mine, ofc im further in so i have better artifacts but its the same conecpt

fyi that pendant think is just viel but better

[uneven schooner]

oh ok

[zenith hare]

think its on floor 9

and flowers is just bombs but better

[uneven schooner]

ohhhh

[zenith hare]

but sneaking follows that rough trend

[uneven schooner]

ok thanks so much man you are a legend

i was really confused but this helps alot

[west ingot]

should I work towards unlocking the fishing islands because I haven't gotten them and I'm not sure if I'm late or something

[zenith hare]

np, itll take time. if you need to just go back to get better levels

[zenith hare]

you can do so yes, though depends how close you are to unlocking equinox

as equinox can get you it for free without any work done

[uneven schooner]

another question should i go back and farm bombs so i can get the highest level or should i just wait till i get the pendantyou are talking about

[zenith hare]

id go back to get some bombs

[west ingot]

I haven't even tried to get equinox everyone's been in lab and pushing

[zenith hare]

early on its a rush to get double viels basically

[zenith hare]

should be easy to get once you have everyones elites

[west ingot]

Does it give decent buffs

[uneven schooner]

yea it does but if you are early game you wont be able to get the good ones

[zenith hare]

100k portal on a mob you should have mk on, and 250k portal on a high mob dense map

[zenith hare]

unlocking equinox materials is the main thing

which can easily be done

[zenith hare]

basically do it after you get the 2x kph lab node

it can help power level ur main pusher too

as its a big jump in xp

[west ingot]

Oh yeah I have it and I can do it with having 2 people out of lab, so should I have 1 going for equinox and keep my other pushing?

[zenith hare]

if you want, yeah

id suggest bb to do equinox tbh

then es/dk for pushing w4

[west ingot]

Yeah my dk is pushing he's on the jello bones

[zenith hare]

bb is the best afk pusher, so it wont be too much of a problem for him

[west ingot]

Whatever those things are lmao

[uneven schooner]

im trying to get better prints for attoms should i go for hearty diggy or wyoming blood?

[zenith hare]

depends how far into the hole you are

id split between personally though

[uneven schooner]

ive got that upgrade that increases the multi ore chance

[zenith hare]

as they get expoentially slower to upgrade

cap out ur multi ore

[uneven schooner]

ok

[cold wraith]

halfway done with resamplin

[uneven schooner]

when will i get doot

im 77/200 tier 5 treat and still no doot

it looks like im gonna get doot at 200/200

[bleak sleet]

When u use a weapon/armor as a component
Whether or not you used upgrade stones on it doesn't change anything right?

[dense egret]

Yeah you can still use it for crafting

[bleak sleet]

And the resulting item will have all slots free, same stats as any would?

[zenith hare]

average to get it is at 180

[uneven schooner]

oh ok

[sleek stone]

Damn 5k acc just 1 map away from elite

[steel nymph]

db?

[sleek stone]

Es

Db dont have equipment rn to push

I had to grind after this es

[robust marsh]

Only 5k

[sleek stone]

Yeah it needed time

Gonna farm some candy before it

[robust marsh]

Bro do alchemy

[sleek stone]

Yeah already

But all in lab rn

[robust marsh]

What gear are you using

Like armour

[sleek stone]

For thropy dmg total 13%

[robust marsh]

.....

[sleek stone]

Eh keychain

Any tips?

[robust marsh]

Bro do some skilling and upgrade to either dementia set or efaunt set so it will be easier

[north compass]

efaunts a waste

[digital vigil]

W?

[north compass]

amarok can work with w4 stones tbh, armor isnt super important

[robust marsh]

I have 3 full sets

[sleek stone]

Shii i just move forward XD

[north compass]

doesnt mean its good

[sleek stone]

Yeah thats amarok w4 stone

[north compass]

its a tiny upgrade compared to amarok overall, and expensive

[robust marsh]

It's was easy to get and better than demantia

[north compass]

just upgrade the helmet and you prob fine

[sleek stone]

To what

[north compass]

dementia

[sleek stone]

Okay

[digital vigil]

hey i need yalls advice do i use one of my cosmic candys?

[robust marsh]

Where

[sleek stone]

I just yolo aimlessly 😭

[digital vigil]

im in w3

[north compass]

no

[robust marsh]

They will come in handy later in other world

[digital vigil]

i want to speed up getting though this dumb world

[robust marsh]

Patience is the key

What map are you on?

[digital vigil]

Patience is one of the things i have little of

[zenith hare]

healing food helps

[robust marsh]

Just wait a bit bro

There are maps in w4 that need 100k+ kills

[digital vigil]

im using one

[robust marsh]

It's your choice but it is a waste

[north compass]

and there are maps in w6 that need 100m+ Kills

except you cant candy there

[digital vigil]

damn

you cant use candy in w6

[zenith hare]

portal jumpscare

[zenith hare]

you'll be able to when w7 releases

[digital vigil]

if it does

[zenith hare]

it will

unless a nuclear war happens

[digital vigil]

i cant wait to get my first elite class

[rain flicker]

is it better to active or afk push for each class before elite classes e.g. wizard, hunter, bowman, etc

[digital vigil]

afk probs

[rain flicker]

across the board

[topaz fern]

Active will always be better

But before Elites its just not as efficient

[rain flicker]

gotcha

[digital vigil]

my first elite class is going to be BB

[topaz fern]

No

If you want to sure

But I'd not recommend

Id recommend bubo

[sleek stone]

Are active farmin have higher loot chance?

[fossil hatch]

so uh

any advice?

Mobs are respawning way too quick lmao

[twilit flax]

I’m trying to push elite classes and w4 on my bowman but my kills per hour are really low, what can I do?

[burnt vortex]

how do i check zows on toolbox?

[astral lava]

No grave right?

[astral lava]

Account > Misc > Apocalypses

[burnt vortex]

ty

[fossil hatch]

Says I left wraith form, with no graveyard

[zenith hare]

take off mob respawn chips

and take off graveyard from talent setup

[fossil hatch]

No graveyard, and that shows up

[zenith hare]

you still need to be in wraith from, just take off graveyard

[fossil hatch]

I am…

[zenith hare]

from the talent bar

it worked for me

[fossil hatch]

I think I’d know if I wasn’t, since I’m hitting 1QQ with bb lmao

[zenith hare]

maybe exit and reenter wraith form

[fossil hatch]

Mmm, ima restart maybe also

[zenith hare]

mayhaps

[fossil hatch]

I’ve used talent resets etc, didn’t seem to work so far

[zenith hare]

smh

[fossil hatch]

Still not working atm…

I’ll figure it out, thanks for the mob respawn stuff tho! I had alot on 😅 🤣

[zenith hare]

smh

[astral lava]

Sup Beanie

[zenith hare]

bai

:3

[fossil hatch]

It worked

[white lintel]

100% combustion rate goes crazy

[zenith hare]

see?

[fossil hatch]

Thanks, time to actually go farm Sheepie again lmao

[white lintel]

I can’t believe I didn’t change it earlier

[fossil hatch]

I took off respawn chips, talent reset, and restarted my game

Oh Jesus, its happening with every map

Well… time to suffer

[zenith hare]

suffer!!

[white lintel]

Should I bone farm overnight or xp farm overnight?

[zenith hare]

up to you

[white lintel]

Fair nuff

[sinful bolt]

i farmed bones last night, woke up to DB chopping tundra logs

[zenith hare]

I need to do so too

[sinful bolt]

fuck auto 💀

[zenith hare]

that's why maps with nodes are bad

[astral lava]

If you can easily get class lv, active exp farm, if not, get more class exp +%

[sinful bolt]

was on sheepie

[astral lava]

And do bones

[sinful bolt]

so what option do i have

[zenith hare]

yes a the tree is a node

[white lintel]

I think my % is like 30-40

[zenith hare]

don't be at sheepie, go to ram :3

[sinful bolt]

where accuracy

[white lintel]

40

[zenith hare]

2k is easy enough tbh

had it by start of today

[sinful bolt]

not at 1k yet so

[white lintel]

I’m at 1,5k

[zenith hare]

I'm now at 3.4k ish

chillin at tv now

[white lintel]

DB is great at giants I found out

[zenith hare]

and soon to be events

[white lintel]

Why couldn’t we get him for Christmas

[zenith hare]

eh

[forest portal]

what is the highest dr from sliver pop?

[zenith hare]

4%

[forest portal]

ok thx

[zenith hare]

iirc

[astral lava]

Beanie do u have any chart or anything that's says every ribbon and it's bonus effect?

[zenith hare]

nope

[astral lava]

What ribbons do u have rn?

[zenith hare]

a t5

[astral lava]

And it's bonus is?

[zenith hare]

which was...a 2.13x I think?

could be very wrong

[astral lava]

Bruh, I give up calculating it then

Not liner

[forest portal]

lol

[white lintel]

I have a rank 8 that does 1.82x

[astral lava]

mmm

[burnt vortex]

whats the best tier to stop combining ribbons?

[astral lava]

None knows

[zenith hare]

20

gold food% plate is THAT important

[burnt vortex]

welp time to wait 1048576 days

cuz rng is not giving me rare ribbons even after that many days 😭

[white lintel]

You can combine ribbons onto plates right, like if I have say a t4 on turkey and a t4 in invo I can drop it on the turkey and it’ll turn into t5?

Or do I gotta hold it till t20

[zenith hare]

yes

[white lintel]

Peak

[forest portal]

can l put a teir 1 on a teir two what will happen

[zenith hare]

I mean I did just answer that

[forest portal]

?

[white lintel]

Probably nothing

[zenith hare]

you need a 2 t1s to get a t2

2 t2s for a t3, etc

[forest portal]

so u cant put a t2 on a t3 meal

[zenith hare]

you can put a t3 on a t3 meal though to get a t4

[forest portal]

ok

[harsh patrol]

If i want to get nebula royal trophy on each char, do i really need to farm 54000 keys for 100x nightmare troll on all chars? Or this quest is account wide?

[zenith hare]

60k, vmans quest was fixed

[harsh patrol]

Is it even possible?

[zenith hare]

yup

takes time

or candy

[harsh patrol]

I mean 60k keys sound scary.

[zenith hare]

tbh I could probably candy that rn if I wanted

cba

[harsh patrol]

Bet i need high af droprate

[zenith hare]

and afk%

and mk also applies for afk drops

[white lintel]

Throw ES in hammers for like forever

[west ingot]

bro if my pc doesnt sync to where my mobilew is im gonna tweak

[zenith hare]

it won't if you're on the game both at the same time

[west ingot]

im not it just takes forever

[zenith hare]

server side updates every 3 mins or so after a cloud save

which means server side updates 20 times an hour for save data

[exotic swallow]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1270060982328361000/1285230172009795634/image0_31.gif

[white lintel]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-cat-meme-cat-stare-cat-shocked-stare-gif-1398922735574533156

[tacit dock]

is there a pin somewhere that has the ways to get extra talent points like symbols of beyond and rift slug

[white lintel]

Try idleon insight, but no promises

Rift slug, Arctis, ES, symbols, EQ are the ones that I can think of on top of my head

[mint rivet]

Hello everyone

👋🏿

[white lintel]

Hallo

[mint rivet]

uh oh

[bleak sleet]

They're all dead, W4 killed them all

[white lintel]

They won’t leave for a long time

[sleek stone]

Me either

[mint rivet]

i still don't have bb master class

[unreal jungle]

huh

[white lintel]

It’s basically just a few colo runs to get

[mint rivet]

ima do it then

[white lintel]

I don’t even think you need to kill any w6 mobs to get it lol

Kinda silly

[mint rivet]

why 0%

[white lintel]

Think about it

If it doesn’t make sense check your crop depot

[mint rivet]

too low level up chance maybe

[white lintel]

Nope

[mint rivet]

oh seed ended with this crop

[white lintel]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-gif-16847314810084971000

[bleak sleet]

So atm I have one pusher, one cook and five lab corpses
Should the berserker cooking also be in the lab?

[mint rivet]

wish i could understand anything

[white lintel]

Gaming moment

[stiff vigil]

should i be using candies for w4 or active pushing

[mint rivet]

w4 what exactly

[white lintel]

Pushing presumably

[stiff vigil]

yrah

yeah*

[mint rivet]

so you want to use candies for either pushing or active pushing?

[stiff vigil]

like should i just go into an area and use the candies straight away or leave my character there instead and not use the candies

like do i need candies for anything else down the line or is now the best time to just use them all

[mint rivet]

candies are not necessary almost always

[white lintel]

You also end up with huge amounts of it from giants

[mint rivet]

yep

[white lintel]

Like I have several thousand of them

[mint rivet]

and don't forget to do ur fractal island

wait not fractal

[true hamlet]

There's better things to do than fractal early on..

[mint rivet]

crystal island i meant

[stiff vigil]

yeah i dont even have it unlocked tbh

[magic marten]

You should use your candies early to push on and later on your candies are usually used for convenience

[true hamlet]

Or candy for beginner

[mint rivet]

i haven't used a candy this year

[magic marten]

I was in a similar spot with you but got to w6 not long ago and glad i used my candies as skills in w6 and w5 take a long time and you can let it compound in the background

[mint rivet]

wish i could candy bravery/justice

[stiff vigil]

ah ok

[magic marten]

Yeah me too wish i could candy bravery

[mint rivet]

i am close to 10k hours there, didn't even reach it and had to move to justice

[white lintel]

I’m almost at 10k justice

[magic marten]

When you are using your candy try to equip your biggie hours card and be in a guild you have x% for double exp claim

[stiff vigil]

yeah i have it on all my card decks

[mint rivet]

can this reach 100%?

[true hamlet]

Big numbers 👀 , was not even at 1k 2 days ago

[mint rivet]

judge bean back on the case

[stiff vigil]

is the royal worm quest worth doing?

[white lintel]

The only world trophy that’s worth getting imo is w5

[stiff vigil]

whys that

[white lintel]

42% DR and 35% dmg and a bunch of stats

Luckier lad is also good but I like divine more

[shy ruin]

how much damage should i finish w4 with

[mint rivet]

about 1mil

[zinc saffron]

any point in getting more lab levels? 3,4K now

[dusty apex]

nothing over 2100 will really do anything aside from more bubo damage for their own lab level

also more bravery damage for total skill levels

but there isnt really a need to push more if you dont want to

[marble silo]

is there a way to speed it up though?

2100 lab feels like it'll take months

[zinc saffron]

rings , cards , skill eff , bubo goes very fast ngl as you progress

[true hamlet]

It depends on which class

[zinc saffron]

maybe 1-2months depending on how hard you optimize it tho

[exotic swallow]

what is max ribbon tier rn

[zinc saffron]

24 or 25 i belive

think 24 if you get it 25 it does nothing and is trash

[dusty apex]

20 is max tier

[gusty goblet]

finally got db : )

[exotic swallow]

thank you

[marble silo]

wheres the spreadsheet

[robust marsh]

I want to know what benefits I get from green stacking anything

[alpine moat]

What's the best way to level construction?

[robust marsh]

Cogs with exp on them and idk anything else

[alpine moat]

Is there anything more that I can do other than just throw him on there? I have my squire with his bonuses on there but he's still behind my main character in construction even though they were all put on at the same time

[robust marsh]

It's strange

[alpine moat]

yeah I'm still filling out my cog "tree" so I'm just putting all the cogs I get on there

[robust marsh]

They were puted in at the same time you say

[alpine moat]

pretty much maybe like 4 seconds in between my main and my squire characters

[robust marsh]

It should look a bit like this

Some doing cogs some doing construction

[alpine moat]

right my main is on construction my squire is on cogs

[robust marsh]

Trash the old ones

It happens sometimes my main is behind everyone with 1 lvl and I don't know why

[alpine moat]

Main is kLalala squire is King Luckee

[robust marsh]

You should be doing construction for not long

[zinc saffron]

early constructionis just waiting but a bit down the line very worth to invest in

[robust marsh]

Ye ik

[robust marsh]

Everything is ok

[alpine moat]

Yeah I'm just wondering why my squire character who has a 26% bonus to construction xp is still behind my main even though I put them all on the board at the same time

[robust marsh]

Look at the cogs there might be exp buff on other ch that is not on your squire

Tap on the eye

[alpine moat]

Does this bonus xp boost everyone who's on the board and not doing cogs?

[gusty goblet]

This db mf is op

[robust marsh]

I think that's it

[alpine moat]

hmm still it's only 6% vs my squire's 26% bonus but I'll watch it for a while longer and see if he starts out-pacing my main. I put my squire off cogs and he's on the board now

[robust marsh]

Don't worry it's same in the end cus my journey man is puted in after everyone else like 1 month later but he is lvl 21 and everyone else is lvl 29

It's harder to lvl up when you get higher lvl

Cards work

With alchemy

They make difference

[modern gate]

Chat, what are some things you recommend I should do before I rush to w4? 🤔

[robust marsh]

Construct building and do alchemy (when I say do alchemy do it a lot)

[modern gate]

strength alchemy 🤑

[robust marsh]

Alchemy= whole game

I didn't invest time in alchemy so I was lacking in accuracy a lot with defence so I had to give it time before i pushed w4

[modern gate]

potentially the stupidest investment ive made yet

ah yes, so true

[night whale]

Huge gainz

[true hamlet]

Oh my.. the 3 day grind for 1m deathnote was so worth it.. vman prints go brr, finally can keep up with blue salt sand usage

[modern gate]

ehhhhhh i do not what i should do...

[true hamlet]

Bubble

[modern gate]

on?

[true hamlet]

29 is high enough

[modern gate]

I failed

What did you expect

[true hamlet]

Failing is part of it, mine is like 2 percent

Start focusing on boosts when it drops to about 5 to 10 percent

[modern gate]

Idk what bubble i should invest on too

[zinc saffron]

scoli bot

[gusty goblet]

:)(

[modern gate]

bruh my damage is pathetic lmao

[gusty goblet]

That’s pretty good

[crude ocean]

How do I speed up w4 portals, i have 100% accuracies and good damage but the kills required are just too high is that how it's supposed to be

[modern gate]

Ye but I checked and chizoar has like 20M Hp

[shy ruin]

For a lvl 80 barbarian that's fine

[modern gate]

I fear your username

[rancid panther]

poopy

[modern gate]

pants

[west pilot]

At that point, speed pots and lab node (killer's brightside)

[modern gate]

I fear your account

[exotic swallow]

if only we could change our character names

[magic marten]

Skibidi idle skibidi skbidi idle idle

[stiff vigil]

how does the tome work

[modern gate]

more upgrades

[marble silo]

what can i do to increase damage and accuracy on my wizard?

[rain scroll]

hi guys

[modern gate]

hi

[full gull]

Should I focus on lab at early w4

Or coocking

[rain scroll]

lab

both if u can

[full gull]

So which character should I put to lab

[rain scroll]

all

[full gull]

Bb to?

[rain scroll]

and remove 1 when ur able to get the killer brightside with all other characters

killer brightside gives 2x kills really helpful for getting elite class

[full gull]

Okey

[rain scroll]

yes all

[west pilot]

Not pusher

At the start have them on lab and start getting the elite classes one by one

Rest is just leaving all besides a pusher (DK or ES if active) and (BB if afk)

If you can reach killer brightside with less people you can move out some, usually at w5 end of w4 you can have 2 chars out

[rain scroll]

ye initially need all in lab for 3d or so

i got the jewel @west pilot

[west pilot]

(pusher + maestro is probably the best way to balance the skilling if you didn't)

[rain scroll]

also this is so hard.

[west pilot]

It gets cleared fast tbf

[rain scroll]

is lv 15 enough now? do i change to measurer or conjuror now?

[west pilot]

Engineer max rn is 18 i believe

Lemme do quick check

[rain scroll]

my conjuror is 14 and measurer 6

[west pilot]

18 is max for now on engineer

Measurer is 10

[rain scroll]

will take long time to max

engineer and im not able to get any new schematics atm too

what do the later measurer ones give?

was 0.2% chance POG

[sleek ridge]

is there a way to stop the beryllium/atom collider from eating all the post office pens ?

[pine fiber]

farming out the 20k power statues is best done at bored beans, right? there isnt another map thats more efficient

[lyric basalt]

Should I buy the W3 pack, I want bloodbone for total DMG percent

[pine fiber]

you'll be able to farm cards so easily tho, especially in the first few worlds

if you buy packs, aim for boss cards instead

chizoar is nice tho, passive shrine effect + cog building speed

[lyric basalt]

What packs should I get for DMG/exp/afk etc

[pine fiber]

idk, chaotic troll is huge, you can farm amarok yourself for both afk gains

w6 boss cards same

[lyric basalt]

Alr, what about DMG, I know def is one

Isn't there a dang card that's w5?

Dmg

[pine fiber]

snowman, bloodbone, citringe, defecaus, blitzkrieg troll

yea its citringe

[lyric basalt]

Alr so overall just boss pack?

[pine fiber]

I havent spent much on packs tho

[lyric basalt]

Oh alr

[pine fiber]

so cant really tell you what to buy, I mostly farmed them myself

[lyric basalt]

Have you bought extra card slots

[pine fiber]

sure thats a must have

[lyric basalt]

Is it always 150?

Or does it go up

[pine fiber]

it ends at 310

[lyric basalt]

Oof

[pine fiber]

its an S tier purchase from gemshop tho

I'd rather get that than any world packs

[dense egret]

Finally a new bubble I've been failing for so long

[sleek stone]

damn ES when farmin goes brrrrrr

[dense egret]

Fr

[sleek stone]

gonna stay active for awhile

[random sonnet]

active ES is awesome, so many flashing lights and you get cards/first page rare items

[sleek stone]

yea FR

worth pushin dis

[pine fiber]

I love fumbling at spirit fields territory fight cuz refillers dont refill and defender does jackshit

[indigo stratus]

24 levels :0
Gone from lab 55 to lab 79

In 1 day

[sleek stone]

dayum

[random sonnet]

huh, how?

[magic haven]

goa gua, should i rush to w4 and rely on food or grind for the 1/20k drops for the better armour and grind warriors on mining?

[hoary pebble]

Is there an elite class that specializes in farming cards the same way DK does for crystal farming and ES for active monster mats? I'm wondering if it's not ES as well because I've gotten a few cards to 4* while grinding mats, without even trying.

[ancient flame]

ES is pretty good as well

[pine fiber]

vman has a card passive

but ES is too good because of wormhole DR

[ancient flame]

pretty much yep

farm pop obols as well for even more drop rate

[pine fiber]

[hoary pebble]

thank you 🫡

[pine fiber]

es for pop obols, dk for double sixes

[magic haven]

should i save up for double printers or get these 5 star cardifiers?

[pine fiber]

double printer ofc

limited shop will be around for a while

[hoary pebble]

printer's too good not to get asap

[sleek stone]

for me double printer are good to get since we can get material doing nothing

[lean prawn]

just got death bringer should i just farm green mush for couple hours for bones or is there a better stratergy

[pine fiber]

check out the DB guide in #1084911530417606656

[lean prawn]

ty

[magic haven]

but the 5 star will go away soon but printer wont tho

[pine fiber]

and can you 5star anything atm?

[magic haven]

yes, a g mushroom ig

[pine fiber]

you must be trolling so w/e

[sleek stone]

[magic haven]

oh and can you reset your printer samples?

[sleek stone]

any tips on how to keep the mana stable on ES?

[pine fiber]

if you take a bigger sample, it'll be overwritten

[sleek stone]

yea

[lucid falcon]

In dungeon???

[magic haven]

how

[sleek stone]

no

[pine fiber]

more mana equals more regen

[lucid falcon]

Who the flip has problems with mana in W4

[pine fiber]

book your tab2 mana for example, pump up your wisdom

[sleek stone]

like he said bigger afk rate/kill will be overwritten

[sleek stone]

ahh okay

[sleek stone]

pushin like crazy tho 😭

[magic haven]

no i mean reset like different materials

[lucid falcon]

Upgrade your stamps theyget better over time so start early

[pine fiber]

you can delete samples yes

[magic haven]

how????

[sleek stone]

so equip are pity

[pine fiber]

brother, have you even looked at the printer yet

[sleek stone]

yea

[pine fiber]

its right in your face

[lucid falcon]

By clicking the trash can

[pine fiber]

there is a trash icon

[magic haven]

i remember there is a cube on the left side of the screen

maybe i never looked at the printer carefully

[sleek stone]

i just got the class so gonna farm for a while to make DK equipment and other mat

[magic haven]

also what are meta character choosing now? 2 divine? 2 elemental? 2 Death bringer?

[sleek stone]

ES class

[pine fiber]

dunno why you'd want 2 DBs

[sleek stone]

1 Db

2 siege

[magic haven]

so out of 10-11 characters, you get 1 of everything, 1 more siege, and what

[sleek stone]

2 SIEGE 2 DK 2 ES

thats all

[magic haven]

then 1 vman?

[sleek stone]

yea

[random sonnet]

until you have completed construction, you'll want 2 DK for sure

[zinc saffron]

2dks are always smooth can hole on with last 3 chars and wait for new classes if you really want to but it crushes progression a good bit

[sleek stone]

yea DK is the goat tho

oh yeah i forgot what is DK focus on?

other than construction

and mining

[magic haven]

gaming