midgame-chat-w3🧊w4🔮

[cold wraith]

ive only hit +8 ever

never over or under

[sleek pollen]

that mf

[white lintel]

Welcome to sneaking

[sleek pollen]

oops off topic

[dusty apex]

you just saw my other message

[white lintel]

Roro ban him

[cold wraith]

but theres no one else in w6 chat

[sleek pollen]

https://tenor.com/view/fade-away-oooooooooooo-aga-emoji-crumble-gif-20008708

Ight imma stop answering waffle because he keeps being off topic

[somber umbra]

is this your alt

[sleek pollen]

main

[somber umbra]

oh

[sleek pollen]

I'm early w6 and my sneaking is bad

[somber umbra]

that makes sense

[cold wraith]

im also early w3

[sleek pollen]

https://tenor.com/bTdPP.gif

[white lintel]

*hardstuck mama trolls

[dusty apex]

why we still going off topic

[white lintel]

Let me rephrase

Why is it that your deathnote does not go beyond mama trolls @cold wraith ?

Now we’re on topic

[cold wraith]

💀

[dusty apex]

want a rule 7 warning? dont be smart

[white lintel]

So breeding amirite

[cold wraith]

love the chances on the w4 pets

[white lintel]

I miss the old w3 chat

[pallid kernel]

Yeah uhhhh refinery

[sleek pollen]

https://tenor.com/bU242.gif

[white lintel]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-gif-441666516964176409

What y’all know about that equinox

[cold wraith]

love it

finished 3 dreams today

[pallid kernel]

Hate it

[somber umbra]

i haven’t progressed equinox in months

[sleek pollen]

real w3 question
do I level up my shrines in the construction from time to time or like when I did most of the first line and some towers?

[white lintel]

Do it on the side

[cold wraith]

i leveled them after getting construction mastery

[somber umbra]

same

[short kite]

I level up shrines when I get salt locked

[sleek pollen]

equi-what? still trynna get my 48 double ulti cogs

[white lintel]

Lvl your towers and a shrine or 2 if you have the space. And focus them once you need to boost lvls for con mastery

[cold wraith]

like when i was doing something else and active grinding just upgraded the fastest shrines for more levels

[pallid kernel]

I still need to do lvl 500 on all chars. Lowest is at 490 and it’s been like that for months

[sleek pollen]

ight

🫡

[somber umbra]

just get 10 levels brah

[white lintel]

You really should fix that

[sleek pollen]

is... is it... w3?

[pallid kernel]

I’m only focusing shrines now that I’ve maxed my towers

[pallid kernel]

Yeah rams give a lot of exp

[cold wraith]

same lol im at 12

[sleek pollen]

ahhh okay didn't know my bad

[pallid kernel]

It can wait until 10k both monuments

[somber umbra]

i remember i was level like 106 in world 3 and literally couldn’t level up until i got to cans in world 4

[sleek pollen]

damn I have proly like 15 on board and around 20 in the storage waiting for the moment I get all 48

[pallid kernel]

I’m just built different

[sleek pollen]

next thing you know Zui is level 300 at end of w3 and 500 at end of w4

[pallid kernel]

I bet zui could find a way ti get lvl 500 in w3 lol

Dang you beat me

[cold wraith]

i didnt even know about it so i was scrapping those cogs

[sleek pollen]

surely, just gotta max them shrines for more kph or afk gains

[sleek pollen]

[sleek pollen]

yeah same but once I really started to do CC I started to save them double cog

[cold wraith]

hm

[pallid kernel]

Am I allowed to talk about idleon in off topic chat

[white lintel]

Instant ban

[sleek pollen]

only if its about idleoff

[white lintel]

Thin ice

[sleek pollen]

you're lucky w3 theme is ice and tundras..

[marble silo]

what talents should i max ( other than happy dude) for skilling in journeyman?

[white lintel]

Yea, galactically close call

[white lintel]

Are you vman or jman?

[marble silo]

jman

[sleek pollen]

them the talent I maxed but I guess you can ignore 7th 9th and 13th

[white lintel]

Jman useless don’t worry about him

[sleek pollen]

card is goodish for well, cards, the gift is good rest is meh

[marble silo]

yeah im trying to get maestro so i'm skilling for quest

[crude ocean]

Does the wormhole skill not increase afk kills

[pallid kernel]

Nope only works active

[still rivet]

What team comp should I use for the last fights in breeding? I cant get this to work now

[zenith hare]

well 2 refillers isn't needed, and defender being on auto helps. and either way trasher is better then defender at ur stage

rattler, trasher, looter, looter, refiller, rattler

[pallid kernel]

Why no peapod

[zenith hare]

idk if they have it

[still rivet]

And how will I survive the begining then do you mean?

[zenith hare]

if they do, yes use that instead

[zenith hare]

you don't need the first pet in line to win

[still rivet]

I dont have defender on auto because timing the first one or two is a must

[zenith hare]

and fyi, you can still time it with it being on auto

just turn auto off of all pets

using the switch

[still rivet]

but wouldnt that be super unefficient since I wont have time to spam the others?

[zenith hare]

no

you just turn it back on

after you've blocked the first attack

[still rivet]

how comes u put a rattler in front?

[zenith hare]

btw this team also works

[still rivet]

yeah, I guess my problem is I havent unlocked the trasher yet

[zenith hare]

replacing mono for looter, and one refiller for smth damage based is faster too

how?

shouldn't have started doing w4 pets then

[pallid kernel]

I just used whatever was in the guide and replaced peapod with rattler when I got it

[astral lava]

I used what is noted in IE AutoReview

[zenith hare]

oh and to answer ur question. it's cause the second rattler is the most disposable pet

as ur looter is the main damage

which is also why mimic is VERY bad

because alchemic exists, hence why trasher is basically needed

it's either don't use looter team, or do an arena like team where looter can die while not letting defender die

[wintry sluice]

I’m about to use 100k ladle for the equinox is there a food that’s really good to have super high level

[zenith hare]

split it between multiple foods

namely cook speed foods

spares go on some w6 plate

[wintry sluice]

Should I wait till I get all w6 meals unlocked cause I just unlocked the last w5 meal

[zenith hare]

nah that'll take ages

as you need to beat the 9 lock to get all plates

[wintry sluice]

Fair the combat requirement is bull

[astral lava]

No burnt marsh. ?

[wintry sluice]

I have 2 unlocked just can’t meet req

[zenith hare]

nah

[astral lava]

What is your Daily Ladle gain?

[zenith hare]

it's just map locked, which it should be

[zenith hare]

they have the ladles alr

it doesn't matter

[wintry sluice]

Yeah I’m just kinda like uh don’t know cause that’s a lot of time

[astral lava]

Ik, I wanna know at what rate they got 100k

[pallid kernel]

I did it at 7k

[wintry sluice]

Uh kinda long time cause I didn’t really focus I had like 60k then just kinda like focused pushing w6 cause I got other stuff to work on

[wintry sluice]

7k/hr???

[zenith hare]

day

[astral lava]

Day

[errant laurel]

Where do i gene splice squarels at and uhh pigs, can not seem to breed next pet after pig

[zenith hare]

frogs

[wintry sluice]

Ah but still that’s kinda crazy

[astral lava]

Not really, that's just 3.5x my gains rn

[errant laurel]

Gene splice pig and squarels at frogs?

[zenith hare]

you splice all w1 pets at frogs

[pallid kernel]

I was at 10k by the end of the 100k grind

[errant laurel]

O ok

Thabks for help

[astral lava]

Cuz of mob count?

[wintry sluice]

That’s 7x mine so still nuts from my end I really don’t understand cooking or half the skills tbh

[errant laurel]

Giga frogs or tiny frogs XD

[zenith hare]

highest kph

[zenith hare]

I'm sure you can tell which map has a higher kph

[errant laurel]

Tiny frogs rhwn? Ok

[astral lava]

Highest kph to someone who can reach multi kill tier 52 on all w1 mobs right?

[zenith hare]

both

frogs straight up is the highest afk kph map in w1

[astral lava]

Then it's just cuz of mob count

[dusty apex]

frogs offer the most kph which means most DNA, gmush is good for double dipping lab bonus

[zenith hare]

early on ofc lab doesn't matter~

[astral lava]

You also want high mob count for w2 gene splicing right?

[zenith hare]

only really start doing that when you get to like 200/300k kph tbh

[dusty apex]

true, but doesnt hurt to get a start, although in the end it doesnt matter either way

[zenith hare]

someone was active BMing at gmush for that reason

[dusty apex]

[zenith hare]

yeah....

[astral lava]

Exactly

[zenith hare]

if you're gonna active kill gmush, at least do it right!

[vernal plank]

hey i wasn't doing it myself, i just recommended it to someone that couldn't do wurms yet

but yah it was dumb

[zenith hare]

:3

[still rivet]

@zenith hare I managed to them with my team: rattler, mono, looter, refiller, defender, refiller

[crude ocean]

How do you get your afk kills high, I have dk should I just go all in on death note

[vernal plank]

lotta factors go into it... sources of afk gain, multikill, just boosting your damage so you have more tiers of multikill

depending on where you're at yah should go hard on death note, esp candying your maestro to get his next class unlock, or BB to get his CHOWs

if you're trying to active farm deathnote then ES is faster than dk

[bleak sleet]

hmm, 1/2^8 is about 1/33000 that's helllaaa rare

[thorn mango]

Do td

And attack the guys

[bleak sleet]

Team Dungeon?

[thorn mango]

Tower defence

[bleak sleet]

Ooohh, smart

[vernal plank]

worship totem, makes your character hit for 1 damage so you can just start a run of it get your hits and TP back to quest mob

[knotty falcon]

How is forgetting the last couple of anvil points on two guys late w4

[vernal plank]

the last mat points come from w4 mats 😄

[knotty falcon]

Ah, true

[charred bone]

what lab lvl should i go for maximum

[marble silo]

any tips on increasing my prints on my wiz and squire? i just unlocked w4 but cant go through as im doing the cooking thing

[vernal plank]

if you're only in w4/5 unlock all the nodes. if you're in w6 2100

accountwide*

[bleak sleet]

My characters printing monster mats are my hunter and wizard atm
I saved squire for mining printing

[rocky jacinth]

You shouldn't do that tbh

[bleak sleet]

Oh yeah?

[vernal plank]

print logs with wizards

[rocky jacinth]

Monster mats is on Vman best

[charred bone]

use squire for mining and wiz for lumbers

[bleak sleet]

My shaman is doing that

[bleak sleet]

Hahah, I'm on W3

[rocky jacinth]

This ^

[charred bone]

then if u have uhh beastmaster/trapper, also good for mats

[marble silo]

oh that's unfortunate, i have my shaman on logs and hunter on spores

[zenith hare]

early game.

[rocky jacinth]

Yeah my bad

[zenith hare]

Hunter and wizard should be monster mats early game

[bleak sleet]

What difference does it make to print logs with shaman or wizard? I found that wizard was better at dealing with mobs
And since shaman has a town skill as secondary, I make it do the lumbering

[zenith hare]

wizard due to easy mk/t and hunter as he has nothing better to do

[zenith hare]

0 basically

[vernal plank]

you'll do logs on both eventually

[charred bone]

yep

[bleak sleet]

Alright

I struggle to keep the refinery going so I had to do two characters on monster drops

[true hamlet]

I should probably rush vman now so I can start getting my mob prints up

[true hamlet]

You will probably always have 2 people printing mob mats (vman and BM)

[bleak sleet]

Alright, I have 6 characters for now

[true hamlet]

6 1/2 weeks in and I have 9 chars, you should unlock the rest soon

Since I entered w6, thought I would go and do death note for vman and multikill per tier

[bleak sleet]

Not sure what I'll do as a 7th

[vernal plank]

2nd dk or vman

[true hamlet]

I went with journeyman..

[bleak sleet]

I don't have elite classes yet, hopefully soonish

I'm at about 80% W3

[vernal plank]

well 2nd squire then* in prep for it

[true hamlet]

If you get progress slowly, I'd probably recommend dk

Construction is pretty important

[charred bone]

well u can choose vman as your 8th or 9th since at early game it doesnt rlly do much

[vernal plank]

also the only elite class that has an idle benefit to having 2

[true hamlet]

There's a lot of ways to lock your progression behind construction yeah..

3 days in and I'm nearly done with w1 1m deathnote.. hope w2 and 3 won't take a very long time

Hopefully under 2 weeks

[bleak sleet]

Since my squire is my pusher
I end up not having much time for mining with it, so a second could help yeah

[vernal plank]

id keep pushing and come back for dnote later

[bleak sleet]

What obols are are good to recycle? I'm starting to have my slots full of bronze/silver ones

[vernal plank]

for square and circle, if its not a POP or dice obal trash it

(unless its one of the pink ones yo uget thru gem store)

[bleak sleet]

I never get square ones

Not from liquid shop, not from monsters

[vernal plank]

they start dropping from w2 crystal mobs

[bleak sleet]

Oh

[pearl storm]

Hi, is it possible to get a printer sample this one?

[sleek pollen]

you can't print rare drops like shell or woodular circle

[pearl storm]

I wonder how to farm 1000m of these shells)

[sleek pollen]

or any other similar rare drops

[sleek pollen]

ES

[winter pilot]

Gl

[astral lava]

Not cuz frisbee can be sampled then all can be too

[astral lava]

None has maxxed it's vial

Except Deceptor (Lava's alt account)

[rain scroll]

hi

[astral lava]

Sup

[frigid pebble]

So i just upped my chows by another 4 (i'm still new and only on 15 now) but my ladles per day has remained the same. What's the best way to increase those ladles, just more and more chows?

[astral lava]

Nvm

[astral lava]

Ye, more Chows and Skill efficiency

[frigid pebble]

was gonna say

[sleek pollen]

stamp laddle, even more chow, eff

[astral lava]

And afk gain %

[frigid pebble]

right, best get grinding then!

[astral lava]

Got confused with zow

[astral lava]

If you can easily chow mobs, then do it

[frigid pebble]

well, I guess i'll just have to leave him at a mob for a few hours / days - just used up all my candy getting the last 4 😄

[wanton sparrow]

does anyone know if prayers are auto equipped or do you need to equip them yourself?

[frigid pebble]

yeah, got both equipped

[astral lava]

Need to be equipped

[frigid pebble]

you need to equip prayers bud 🙂

[wanton sparrow]

thx guys

[frigid pebble]

fancy seeing you here!

[wanton sparrow]

yeah ik

its like we both no life this game lmao

[frigid pebble]

if we're not on this game, we're on Tans stream 😄

[wanton sparrow]

fax

[astral lava]

?wiki Cooking

Just see the things that affect cooking

[cursive walrus]

https://idleon.wiki/wiki/Cooking

Just see the things that affect cooking

[rain scroll]

i unlocked justice

[frigid pebble]

appreciate it. I just want to get above 101 per day :/

[astral lava]

Congrats

[astral lava]

Now go for cavern 15

[rain scroll]

why>?

POG

[dusty apex]

#idleon-gen-chat

#midgame-chat-w3🧊w4🔮 message

[astral lava]

If you wanna show it to me, send it in the right chat and maybe ping me

[rain scroll]

ok so only ask questions here?

about w3-w4?

[fossil hatch]

Yes

ONLY question, and I can ONLY answer you

[fossil hatch]

Massive

[calm vault]

if you're in w5 I'd say it's about right for you to unlock him

[marble silo]

should i focus on unlocking new pets on the breeding tab or foraging? i just unlocked w4

[fallen ridge]

||since this is a question, I am able to answer it||
gives a ton of buffs to almost all char and it is finally able to print

[indigo stratus]

Always keep vman as the highest skiller.. you'll get a massive efficiency bonus.

[marble silo]

i mean the eggs, what do i spend them on , getting the new pet or just focus on foraging and it becomes easier or do i fill the forage teams first

[calm vault]

what skill level is your maestro in mining?

[sleek stone]

What is Vman?

[calm vault]

voidwalker, its the maestro's elite class

[indigo stratus]

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/u/0/d/193tGCv_nJpgleOzQ2jkO9KEpSh8JcOZLdjDolD9Z0FI/htmlview?pli=1#

This will be very useful

[bitter zodiac]

best spice collectinbg team setup?

[sleek pollen]

see pinned of zoro or the guide saphron sent or from !guide (same one)

[bitter zodiac]

got some eggs to use

!GUIDE

[candid scarab]

Mid-Late Game guide for World 3 / 4 / 5:
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/e/2PACX-1vSCepYAs6sNDP4iq6MJNAG1pvFXzfC_3IQ7ttt5vfEEKAgQhIk4cQqnLRyeH6UyqDSuP4R-6WQeDmmP/pubhtml
Video Guides (by GriffyBit):
https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLVGSDQs1AcvjYTAPtYV6ofbeeEfHpEcb4

[sleek pollen]

okay so basically

I don't know haven't figured

[calm vault]

dont quote me on this, but directional "Player construct xp" bonuses act as sort of multipliers

where as all your %bonus construct xp just gets added into a bucket for all players

[bleak sleet]

I can get a bit far on yum yum desert tower defense
And I get shredded first waves on Roots one even tho is supposed to be the next one haha

[calm vault]

you can see the difference by removing one of your directional xp cogs and checking the bfore and after, its pretty huge

[waxen aurora]

when farming twosoul statues on quenchie. is it better to use multikill or drop rate?

[calm vault]

yeah, directional player construct xp is extremely important

eventually you want every source of that pointed at your squires as you can get

[calm vault]

this might have the answers you seek but idk #midgame-chat-w3🧊w4🔮 message

[bitter zodiac]

which is better?

[sleek pollen]

I'm using the second one

[calm vault]

but now that I think of it, no its not multikill. It's 100% drop rate that you should worry about for farming two soul statues

[bitter zodiac]

the one with nBLB?

[sleek pollen]

no this one

[bitter zodiac]

oh

is it better?

[sleek pollen]

badumdum boost below and above territory so I prefer that for spice production for the beack dock spice

[slim mantle]

Well you see. Drop rate affects those. Multikill does not, at all

[waxen aurora]

roger. pumping up the dr

[lyric basalt]

Should I switch my main from DK to ES cuz DK is only good if high level and has 1.5x acc

[sleek pollen]

DK is the safe way if you push

[lyric basalt]

So I should just stick with DK?

Cuz we has more skills for afk gains

[slim mantle]

U can. Es is the better pusher in early game with as trade off that hes squishier

[lyric basalt]

Oh alr thx

[slim mantle]

Also they are active classes

[shy ruin]

guys how do i get one gem

[fading rune]

Its 2025, why only 2024?

[shy ruin]

yeah that's why i'm asking

[fading rune]

Split stack, add one

[shy ruin]

don't have any in storage

[fading rune]

Big brain

[fallen ridge]

https://discord.com/channels/437797104786604034/738868424813445172
||level up something||

[sleek pollen]

jman gift, level gift bubble

[fallen ridge]

or do daily boss

[random sonnet]

when is a good time to unlock atom collider? my build rate is like 200k, so it'll be slow af to unlock anyway, my best copper print is at around 450k, oak is 560k; i'm guessing now is a good time, by the time it's done i should have multi ore/log bubbles progressed more to get less bad prints

[slim mantle]

Up ur build rate

[sleek pollen]

I started around early w6 and had proly around as much build rate as you

[random sonnet]

i'm workin on it my DKs have the construct XP bubble and the talents, i should probably re-book them but library is still max 151

[shy ruin]

yay

[calm vault]

Summoning has some insane construction boosts, rift does as well

[random sonnet]

i'll set it building, didn't want to be wasting a slot if i'd still be stuck when it's built

[calm vault]

Its honestly just about getting to the point where you can fill your cog board properly (yin and yang cogs arent a bad purchase either imo)

[random sonnet]

my summoning is slowly improving, and rift i got as far as unlocking the skilling stuff (i think 16?) and not gone back yet, construction is 46 or so right?

[calm vault]

Yeah about 46

Like getting to the point where you can make 1 purple cog per tick with your two DKs

[bleak sleet]

You have one year to get the next one, hope you'll manage

[calm vault]

That's when it really skyrocketed for me

(Because then I just worked on getting some good directional xp cogs, some nice flat xp cogs, and the rest was history)

[random sonnet]

i've got 2 of the premium cogs, i probably need to optimize it, hard focused XP on the board; my top DK is 104 now

[calm vault]

Nice

But yeah those directional xp cogs are the biggest game changers too

[random sonnet]

Yeah i have one of those so far; is it worth taking the DKs off the board for some cog time? I have 3 in the top two tiers of cogs at the moment slaving away

[calm vault]

Definitely worth occassionally pulling them off and actively churning through some cogs

(So long as you're getting a cog or two or 3 per 1-2 ticks)

[slim mantle]

Make it 4 so u can make excogia (its a boost)

[random sonnet]

yeah, that's my next priority on gem item buys

[slim mantle]

Dk should stay on the board tbh. Its not too hard to get to instant cog clicking without dk

[calm vault]

Taking them off the board for 30 minutes doesnt hurt honestly

Or do you think thats a bad idea?

[slim mantle]

Its 30 min of not getting proper xp when all that matters is them getting xp

Can just level the bubble a few times and do the same thing without touching the dks ya know

[calm vault]

Id be curious to hear how many directional xp cogs special ed even has at this point

[random sonnet]

1 directional XP cog (the one i pinged)

[calm vault]

Ah, so the difference between an off board and on board dk wouldnt even be that big, right? @slim mantle

[random sonnet]

my cogs for hands does need work, it's only 44 so far

[calm vault]

Just seems silly to not want to invest some time into churning those out

[slim mantle]

Itd be 39% which still affecting it and the risk of forgetting to put them back aswell when the same thing can be done without downsides

[calm vault]

Well the same thing cant be done right

[slim mantle]

Early on u can also just spam every cog if need be. The differences aren't that big its mostly rng

[calm vault]

Because the two squires will produce the most cogs

[random sonnet]

their XP/hr goes from 780k/hr to 136k/hr on cogs, so probably not worth

[slim mantle]

I got 5/6 purple cogs producing per tick without dks. It can certainly be done

[calm vault]

Your cog production right now?

[random sonnet]

i do have all-non-DKs on cogs, so i'm not wasting valuable XP space

[slim mantle]

Its now yes but cost per cog scales hard and I haven't put any effort into scaling cog gains since the start of my construction

[sleek stone]

Guys should i chooses journemyman as my 7th class or what?

What is the best?

[slim mantle]

Theres different opinions. Mine is 10th

[calm vault]

If its your cog production right now do you think thats relevant to a lvl 100 construction guy

[random sonnet]

7th or later is good

[calm vault]

I just went through this grind and found it very, very helpful to have my squires make cogs at times

[slim mantle]

Can definatly be done with some focus on cog production which I never did. And until it reaches that just produce every cog type, they are worthwhile still

[sleek stone]

Damn

[random sonnet]

ty for the steering, i wasn't masively off course

[midnight stirrup]

Hi guys, any idea why I can’t pick up souls at the first goblin totem

My inventory isn’t full I can see them but can’t pick them up

[bleak sleet]

Did you lose early?

[midnight stirrup]

Pretty early ye was my first run

[bleak sleet]

If so maybe the totem dropped a stack of 0 items on the floor
Not sure why that's a thing

[midnight stirrup]

What makes me hit the goblins for more than 1? Just experience?

[bleak sleet]

So there's actually nothing there for you to pick up
A quirky thing about the way the game is coded I suppose

[bleak sleet]

Towers

Your character will always hit for 1 dmg

[midnight stirrup]

Ah I need to look into building towers it’s a bit confusing atm

[bleak sleet]

Yeah, is tab on top of the screen to build towers

[random sonnet]

at the top of the UI you will have "New" and "Trash" for making/removing towers

[slim mantle]

Rounding. It may have a value of for example 0.70 rounded down

[bleak sleet]

Really didn't expect construction to provide with this, but I am very pleasantly surprised

[slim mantle]

Construction saving u storage slots gems so u can blow more gems on improving construction with cogs 🙂

[bleak sleet]

[slim mantle]

Tbh im kinda surprised. Premium cogs are worth it but I still only bought 4 instead of 8 xd

[bleak sleet]

Does construction still have value after you built everything?

[slim mantle]

Not even the most advanced endgamer is done with construction

[bleak sleet]

Oh waw

[slim mantle]

Cost scaling of upgrading buildings is insane

[random sonnet]

max building level isn't what you see at the moment either, it's upgraded by other skilling later in the game

[slim mantle]

Well for some buildingd they can see the max xd

[bleak sleet]

I mean I guess it makes sense they wouldn't make a skill downright useless
Just like I heard alchemy goes on for a while too

[random sonnet]

oh the utility ones don't scale right, just towers and shrines?

[slim mantle]

plenty of things become basically useless at some point, construction just is a superl ong grind

[slim mantle]

and library gets a bonus 100 levels too

[bleak sleet]

Is there no constellation in W3 colosseum?

[slim mantle]

don't think so no

[bleak sleet]

Yeah makes sense why I haven't seen any then heh

[slim mantle]

but in general u want to save up ur colo tickets

they are a rare commodity which you will need lots of later

[bleak sleet]

Oh is that so?

Alright, I've been using them scarcely thankfully

Do you get more tickets for how many character did the colosseum keeper's quest? Same as with boss keys?

[slim mantle]

nope, ur hard limited to 3 a day... w6 colo costs 30 tickets

[bleak sleet]

Three a day each? They don't give that much

[slim mantle]

3 a day total

[bleak sleet]

Oh

The salt lick is asking for froge
Are they licking froges now, dang

[rancid ridge]

The first 4 cogs are a great thing to get if you have the gems for it but the price scaling gets pretty high so to get the other 4 cogs it's quite a lot more expensive

I don't remember the numbers anymore but the first 4 cogs are a much reasonable price compared to the last 4.

[random sonnet]

the 3rd buy is 750 gems

[rancid ridge]

Obviously if you do get the last 4 cogs that is a huge boost to your construction.

[slim mantle]

I know they are but still, how far in I've gotten I'm kinda surprised I still didn't get around to getting the last 4 xD

[rancid ridge]

I got 10k gems so I could possibly get them but I also kinda want to save my gems just Incase some really good special gem offers appear.

Some of them can be shockingly expensive but also really worth it.

And I don't want to be met in a situation where I didn't save enough gems.

[slim mantle]

I'm still periodically siphoning gems away into opals when lava fails to update the game

like right now, got 2 more opals to get, doing daily bosses between my gold stopwatches

so the gems are slowly but surely coming in

[bleak sleet]

Hmm but then you want to prioritize on xp cogs I suppose at that point

[slim mantle]

not at that point, at all points :p

[bleak sleet]

[slim mantle]

directional value that is

they are but thats the max % you refered to, just basic xp stat on cogs isn't capped like that

[rancid ridge]

Yeah some of mine are in the triple digits.

[dusty apex]

#endgame-chat-w7🐟 message

[slim mantle]

it was proving this situation, seems on point to me tbh

[dusty apex]

oh my bad, misread it

[slim mantle]

happens to the best of us

[rancid ridge]

Am I dumb but how would that picture be related to W6 questions?

[random sonnet]

click the link and yee shal see

[rancid ridge]

Ah alright

[bleak sleet]

Waka waka wave 30 is a beast, a unit

[digital blaze]

wow i haven’t been on in awhile

[random sonnet]

i hope they didn't have the 10hr prayer

[true hamlet]

Oh that..

You mean star sign? Or maybe there's prayer too

[dusty apex]

#endgame-chat-w7🐟 message

[formal brook]

anyone know how i can fix this?

[random sonnet]

i know the tsar (purple mushroom) helps with big power requirements, but i'm not far enough to understand it

[dusty apex]

Tsar is massive for that, its best used in the row above or below

[forest portal]

hi

what shd l focus on breeding lm at ntto for w1 snelby for w2 mamoth for w3 and at last w5 territory shd l push shines or more pets?

[pearl sequoia]

Someone able to give me a TL:DR on Killroy Prime from the Rift? Does it provide an overall damage multiplier and is it worth trying to push for?

[dusty apex]

Only on the directional bonus is 65% cap

[forest portal]

what abt the regular ones what is the cap?

[merry nacelle]

Is 1 in 130 crystal chance good enough for start?

[forest portal]

which is better?

[forest portal]

start crystal farming?

[merry nacelle]

Yeah

[forest portal]

if u have choco chip and 8x dr u can start but might not be that fast prob 2 days of afk to get all 20k staues

[merry nacelle]

8x dr?

[uneven obsidian]

drop rate

more would be better tho for statue farming

[willow bronze]

When we are sampling monsters drop, what kind of cards are better?

1. AFK fight gain i think.
2. % Damage for multikill?
3. Drop rate?
4. Multikill?

[uneven obsidian]

afk/MK

[willow bronze]

Good thanks

[uneven obsidian]

can fill other with +dmg after that

[merry nacelle]

I'm at 5.15 :c

[random sonnet]

sometimes it's better to get to the next multikill tier vs a multikill per tier card (if they are still low like mine)

[merry nacelle]

Time to farm obols

Active ES for obols, right?

[half copper]

equinox mirror count as rare drop from blood bones? So I should up my DR instead of Multikill? Trying to green stack it

[latent bramble]

No cap as far as we know, just keeps scaling with con level

[half copper]

DK or Bubo to farm it

[robust marsh]

This is kinda dumb but can anyone tell me how am I supposed to complete pack mule crafter thing in w1 task master?

[half copper]

Put all the materials you need to craft in your inventory and craft from there

[latent bramble]

There's a guide here for it
#newplayer-chat-w1🍀w2⏳ message

[robust marsh]

Thanks

[still agate]

where is the ideal team to win the "Molten bay"?

[latent bramble]

!guide spreadsheet has 4-6 team setups that should be fine

[candid scarab]

Mid-Late Game guide for World 3 / 4 / 5:
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/e/2PACX-1vSCepYAs6sNDP4iq6MJNAG1pvFXzfC_3IQ7ttt5vfEEKAgQhIk4cQqnLRyeH6UyqDSuP4R-6WQeDmmP/pubhtml
Video Guides (by GriffyBit):
https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLVGSDQs1AcvjYTAPtYV6ofbeeEfHpEcb4

[uneven obsidian]

i unlocked most of the spice with this combo

[mild lark]

is Strung Bludgeon usefull for w3?

[vapid egret]

Hi, does the Atom Collider create atoms if I have more than 1B of them even when it's off?

[minor relic]

1hour should i just stop

[uneven obsidian]

this will take forever without looter buffs, should go unlock your 6th slot

[minor relic]

no arena for today unlocked 5th slot today:)

6th will have to wait for tomorrow

[random sonnet]

not got CD on the free entry skill? or did you use that for that round?

[viscid blaze]

@left canopy rattler, we're not allowed to answer in w6 anymore 😂

[left canopy]

Oh

One refiller died but I'm sure that's a sacrifice I can make

[mild lark]

whats good cards for pushing w3

[random sonnet]

anything that increases damage or accuracy if you need it; if you haven't done chaotic amarok yet and are pushing afk - you might want to hit the doggy a couple of times for that card because it gives afk fight gains

[mild lark]

i havent kill the chaotic one yet

[runic coral]

how much is too much lvls in ⛏️ eff in monument

?

[mild lark]

no idea im not there yet

[uneven obsidian]

#server-rules #3

[runic coral]

did we ever follow that

[mild lark]

prob ask in #lategame-chat-w5🌋-w6🌸 or #endgame-chat-w7🐟

[uneven obsidian]

its being inforced now

[runic coral]

oh i see

[drifting pier]

is there a place to optimize my cogs?

[trail sentinel]

GUYS I FORGOT WHAT THE COGS DO 😭

[fickle lake]

there used to be a cog optimizer somewhere that read your json data that used to be nice, but i don't think it is updated anymore

[blissful karma]

Im farming for 20k power statues is farming gigafrog better than beans?

[meager matrix]

If you buy the choco chip currently in the chip repository, DK at beans will far exceed anything else

[uneven obsidian]

beans is used for that because its the best map to crystal farm. and crystal got way higher drop rate on statue... at least for all but w3.... plz lava fix w3 crystal to have statues

[meager matrix]

There are 6 statues DK is not the best at

3 from W3, 1 from the Caverns, 1 from the end of W1, and 1 from catching in W2

[uneven obsidian]

which w1 ?

[meager matrix]

Bullseye

[uneven obsidian]

ah the un important one

[meager matrix]

All onyx statues are important

[fickle lake]

it's important to get 20k on it at least

[uneven obsidian]

yeah but once onyx no real point in farming that one

[fickle lake]

here is your counter arguement

[meager matrix]

exists

[pliant gate]

short question am i doing something wrong? i finally unlocked a new star talent at the library but when i try to check out i dont get a book or the talent

[mild lark]

oh i forgot tbaout that

[meager matrix]

Remove the star talent book from your filter

[pliant gate]

so i was stupid xD thanks that worked

[uneven obsidian]

how fast do you fill that minimum ?

[meager matrix]

I would just spam attempts then, probably. It really depends on how fast the bar fills and how much of an improvement each bar makes, though

Oh, 2 days is a lot

[uneven obsidian]

can you upgrade the kitche fire ?

[meager matrix]

Maybe you should upgrade some of your other meals that would boost this/upgrade your kitchen

Also, not sure if you have, but I highly recommend getting the first gem shop kitchen. You don't need more than 1, but that first will make a big difference

[vital bay]

does anyone here play idle skilling that can help me with an issue i have?

[meager matrix]

!is

[candid scarab]

This is a Discord server primarily for IdleOn chat and support. You probably want the Idle Skilling discord server!

Here ya go! https://discord.gg/dBHxNZbZ8N

[wheat dirge]

Hey guys, for someone in early w6 what should my cauldron upgrade (speed, luck, etc.) levels be around?

[fallen ridge]

if you can active bubo, which requires talent at lv 200 to start working properly, you can consider maxing them

[wheat dirge]

Yeah I do. What are the max levels?

I'm talking about the boosts to be clear: speed, luck, cost, extra bubble lvl

[meager matrix]

They max at 170

Shouldn't be hard to hit that if you just run active Bubo a little bit

[meager jackal]

any P or S players for quest?

[robust marsh]

I have a jurney man with name starting with p

[meager jackal]

wya

[robust marsh]

Where are you I am not on game right now

[meager jackal]

pizza 1 w1

[robust marsh]

I come where you are

Ok

[robust marsh]

Are you in town?

[meager jackal]

just need 1 star, game sucks!

ye i see you

well i saw you go to w2

lol

[robust marsh]

Come w2

[shell isle]

is stache map the best for crystal farming in W3?

[astral lava]

Neyeptunes or Blood bones

But Neyeptunes better for black lense

[frigid pebble]

I'm guessing it's the rank of the refiner that increases the amount of salts that are produced on each cycle?

can someone please confirm or correct me?

[astral lava]

Correct

Rank^1.3

[frigid pebble]

appreciate it, i didn't know how it works, now i've got all the first 3 on lvl 5 which has not made it scale well. so time to turn everything off and let the red salt run for a while!

[zenith hare]

follow the second pin for rank ups

[astral lava]

Nnvm

[zenith hare]

you're quite far behind if blue is 5 and red is 5

and it'll feel like hell for a while

[frigid pebble]

oh i know i'm behind on most things, i sipped a lot of the skills and pushed to W6 pretty early.

[frigid pebble]

everything i skipped feels like hell as i'm starting them all from scratch Shouldn't have skipped them huh!

[zenith hare]

refinery is the worst bit :3

everything else scales pretty well

[uneven obsidian]

still feel so slow

[frigid pebble]

good job i have plenty of other stuff to keep me busy.
Found this link https://www.reddit.com/r/idleon/comments/ut8d7w/graphic_for_running_salt_refinery_infinitely/

Seeing as my blue is at 5 - do i need to aim for the one where my blue is lvl 5? so red 21 & yellow 12?

[uneven obsidian]

follow this

[astral lava]

Cuz this was outdated iirc

[frigid pebble]

perfect, thank you both.

[uneven obsidian]

the graphic might still be fine, its more that we can reach a point where its not been updated for how high our ranks are

so understanding how salt work from early stage helps out more

[frigid pebble]

I have a lot of work to do!

[vernal burrow]

Is level 9 breedability (8.92x multi) the highest?

[astral lava]

Idk there is a limit

Lemme research

[astral lava]

Well anyway, 9 isn't the highest

In wiki, there is 10

[vernal burrow]

ffs

I read this shit wrong im still breedability 6, not 9

[astral lava]

Yup, I also was confused

Since 8.92 isn't at 9

[vernal burrow]

This breedability 7 achieve is gonna take a long time

[astral lava]

Check breeding wiki to see what boosts breedability speed

[uneven obsidian]

short answer, not enough thing boost it

[astral lava]

Meh, just keep cooking Eggplant

[astral lava]

Still good to check yk

[deep wigeon]

is the next slicer better than the last? or do they get exact same sliceing mats?

[astral lava]

Always better splicing power

[uneven obsidian]

each world as its own color for dna obtain while splicing, the higher gun just mean you can splice more worlds

[astral lava]

Splicing power~~

And*

[deep wigeon]

ok so it do give more dna then? + sliceing in that world ofc

[astral lava]

More Splices ye

[mild lark]

are these good cards

[astral lava]

If that's for fighting, use C. amarok and Boop for afk gain

Prioritize dmg and afk gain (weapon power if u want too)

[polar bane]

💀

[marble silo]

whats that?

is that the dice thing?

[polar bane]

yes

[marble silo]

oh i always wondered what it gave you since i havent rolled a 6 yet

should i keep these upgrade stones? or are they useless

[uneven obsidian]

mystery stone are used on stamps

[mild lark]

i dont have his card

[mental stump]

Quick question, I'm stuck on the Lava Skull rift and I've tried afk'ing for several hours at a time to just try and brute force pass it. But I can't seem to get a single character passed it. Any advise?

[marble silo]

so i can get rid of all the other ones right?

[uneven obsidian]

pretty much yeah

[pliant fractal]

no

[keen robin]

I'm at the termastats on W3 and my acc is down to 66%. I have amarok armour upgraded with world 3 stones; besides alchemy ( which i was neglecting) how can i go about improving my stats?

[uneven obsidian]

stamps, owl, roo

cards, card set, dungeon flurbo

[mental stump]

Gold butter from catching the butterflies in the map under mimics

[uneven obsidian]

butter scaling is

[mental stump]

Didn't say it was good. It's an option and fairly easy to get

[rain scroll]

are messages still going down?

[keen robin]

ty for the info

[dense egret]

Which ones

[stable parcel]

Just got char 7. I have 2 Mage, 2 Warr, 2 Archer,
Would I be dumb to not get maestro rn?

[fickle lake]

most people make their 7th character vman

mine is my 4th, but that is me

[still meadow]

I got my mastro as a fifth. So do not ever take my opinion in this regard

[rain scroll]

people recommend 10th nowadays

[stable parcel]

I think this one but i dont wanna upgrade it rn to double check

[rain scroll]

that is the higher upgrade stone one

[stable parcel]

I'm leaning towards getting Maestro like 8th or 9th

[rain scroll]

this is this one

[dense egret]

Which quest are these from?

[reef oak]

So how long did you guys afk at lab before you can reach the double afk thingy when you first reach w4?

[rain scroll]

a few days

[stable parcel]

What afk thingy?

[rain scroll]

i think he means the 2x kills

[stable parcel]

oh that

[mild lark]

where do you get this stamp

[reef oak]

Yup 2x kills. Someone said reach that, push to w5 for divinity for easier lab.

[stable parcel]

I don't remember. Hop on the wiki. all of these questions are easier to just wiki

[marble silo]

does my character have to permanently be there though?

[mild lark]

?wiki stat graph stamp

[cursive walrus]

https://idleon.wiki/wiki/stat graph stamp

[stable parcel]

Yes you would essentially sacrifice 4 characters to get 1 char to push faster. debatable if thats worth or not

[rain scroll]

it is worth it tbh to get elite classes

[uneven obsidian]

lab is worth the amount of character needed to get the bonus from ut

[white lintel]

Elites are extremely important

[white lintel]

2x portal kills among other things so yes

[mild lark]

shound i try and kill c Armonk

[stable parcel]

if you have closer to 2000 accuracy you'll be fine

[mild lark]

i have all the accuracy

[uneven obsidian]

2x stamp can also be a nice one to have once you can reach it

if they havent ignored stamp too much

[dense egret]

That's overkill you need like 20

[stable parcel]

he said C amarok, not normal

[mild lark]

yea

[dense egret]

Didn't see it I'm blind

[stable parcel]

im not telling lvl 20 accounts to get 2000 acc

[mild lark]

the best i did was about half way

[dense egret]

How much dmg do you have

[white lintel]

Yea but that’s not reached in the w4 push usually so I didn’t mention it

[mild lark]

i can do about 16k

[stable parcel]

They probably only do that when you are a blatant offender... people ask wrong world channel questions often..
Just don't do it ?

[marble silo]

how do i start doing sigils?

[rain scroll]

more than enough

[stable parcel]

W4 lab

[rain scroll]

no i mean wait thats low

[mild lark]

maybe let me check

[rain scroll]

it has 8m hp

[mild lark]

no shit

[rain scroll]

like u could do it in a while

[random sonnet]

@marble silo link the node in lab (w4) then assign players to it, it's usually suggested to ignore them until very late w5, early 6

[stable parcel]

If you have the accuracy then you ahve the damage. you just have to control yoiur chjar instead of hitting auyto

[rain scroll]

but u can easily get some damage btw how u reached w4 with 16k dmg?

[rain scroll]

will take quite long making it not worth kinda

[stable parcel]

Ya I didn't realize how low 16k was until i checked my dmg..

[rain scroll]

w4 is like with 60-80k dmg

and by u reach w5 u get 800k to 1m dmg

[uneven obsidian]

well its mostly that chiz is also 20m hp

[stable parcel]

Struggling to kill donuts rn, C* amarok still takes a min to kill.

[dense egret]

Bro wtf

My squire is 95 and does 300k

[rain scroll]

level doesnt matter

[stable parcel]

ya lvl is not main source of dmg

[rain scroll]

account progress like stamp,alchemy etc matter

[mild lark]

this is my dmg without buff

[uneven obsidian]

and salts in the case of a squire

[stable parcel]

This account sat for a year without being touched so i got from like lvl 1-60 without doing ANY upgrades on other things

[dense egret]

Still why is it that low when you about to get elite classes

[mild lark]

with buff

[stable parcel]

I rushed to w4 in like 2 weeks

[rain scroll]

its okay he will improve elite class fixes everything

[stable parcel]

ALLL about elite classes

[dense egret]

Does it rlly?

[mild lark]

im about go go sweat mode on c Armonk

[uneven obsidian]

also squire suffer dmg wise if it doesnt have 1.5x accuracy needed

[dense egret]

My shaman sucks rn it's gonna take a day or two to get his elite

[rain scroll]

bubo isnt that good anyways in the start

[mild lark]

my squire rivals my barb

[rain scroll]

it sucks at everything and is just lab slave

[reef oak]

Just got elites yesterday. Yes.

[stable parcel]

Can't wait for bubo so i can afk him in lab for 2 weeks

[rain scroll]

dk supremacy

[dense egret]

I remember the time I fought c amarok for almost an hour with 50% accuracy before realising I'm a fcking idiot

[mild lark]

my best was half

[dense egret]

I got him to 2m then he kept healing

[stable parcel]

My first time doing W5 boss on Nightmare I afked my game for over a day because i was making progress but SO slow.

[dense egret]

Lmao

[mild lark]

soo he can heal

[dense egret]

Yes

[stable parcel]

All Amarok difficulties can heal

[rain scroll]

why did u do nm kruk if u had so low dmg

i can now kill him with dk in some secs 🙂 other chars still a min or so.

[stable parcel]

Cause i did chaotic in like 5 seconds so i wanted to see if ic ould

[rain scroll]

its 1000T HP

[stable parcel]

I don't check dmg i go by gut 😂 . I think i had 1 char who could do it easily so i just wanted to try the other char

[rain scroll]

400x more hp

did u get this achievement?

[stable parcel]

Ya that was months ago. ANy of my chars probably 2 shot him now

[mild lark]

what shound i do with my gems

i got about 500

[rain scroll]

u have 3d printer?

[mild lark]

yea

[rain scroll]

crystal upgrade

[random sonnet]

this has a section on gems - https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/e/2PACX-1vQHKsA7L-VGS5_JCJeLPUiFJ8mvooLaVRUpkq5t3aeu-rkEPgjZJhjX39t5spXU5jjfixN4SwjXjo08/pubhtml#

[white lintel]

Infinity hammer or crystal 3D printer if you don’t have them already

[mild lark]

i got the hammer

[rain scroll]

if not get the 3d printer crystal upgrade its the best one

quite costly but very worth it

[white lintel]

I wouldn’t even say it’s that expensive in retrospect

[uneven obsidian]

worth every gems invested in it

[white lintel]

Just one pristine charm is more expensive than crystal printer

[random sonnet]

if you haven't got the 1 gem card pack, don't forget that

[white lintel]

You have a month to get it

[rain scroll]

i think we will get an update sooner

in 1-2 weeks

lava needs to rest too 🙂 he also gets bored of his daily routine like all of us

[cobalt hatch]

after not playing this game for about a year i have started playing this game again and im not really sure what to focus my progression into because it seems like there are so many systems and im not really sure what to do

[white lintel]

Nah

[clever lintel]

I can get that it may be overwhelming jumping straight back in

Tell me where you currently are

[cobalt hatch]

my first 3 characters are all world 4 with the final class upgrade i dont really know what its called and the other 4 are fighting in the donut enemy area just before the rank up quest and i have 1 character which is significantly weaker than the rest which is mining rn

Im not really good at explaining this kinda stuff im logged in to idleon efficiency if that is easier to show where i am at

[stable parcel]

Update your https://www.idleonefficiency.com and link it if you want the most help

[white lintel]

How close are the toons to opening the portal to get past donuts

[cobalt hatch]

they are all able to kill around 1k an hour and ive left them afk for about 20 hours because i usually log on once a day

[white lintel]

Right

[cobalt hatch]

so when i get on soon they should be able to open the portal

[white lintel]

Sick, that’s great, what are you majorly concerned about if you are or are you just kinda lost?

[minor relic]

how do u all propose to get to round 125 in pet arena

[cobalt hatch]

im just kinda lost i tried watching a bunch of guides but i dont they all seem to tell me to invest in a bunch of stuff and i cant really afford the meterials

[white lintel]

Peapod looter etc

Refiller

Rattler

[minor relic]

one more

[white lintel]

Here’s a real order
Peapod/rattler, looter, refiller, your pick, refiller, Borgar

Real ish

Use the guide sheet lol

[minor relic]

left right or opposite

[white lintel]

Left to right

[white lintel]

Well, you’ll basically be sitting everyone in lab for a while. Before you do that you should maximize your prints so you can keep upgrading your alch. So work on getting good prints through sample %, eff, tools, afk gain, etc. once you’ve done the prints, throw everyone in lab and use your DK (or ES) to push through w4.

[cobalt hatch]

oh okay

[white lintel]

W4 and 5 push is probably the most boring part of the game since you’re not managing any toons, just waiting for lab and div to develop and your pusher to make it to the boss

Owl and roo help a lot with pushing to w6 if you haven’t done those yet

[vital bay]

do i need to keep the mayonnaise bottle from the treasure hunt?

after completing the quest

[torpid acorn]

For slab

Actually you can probably just check in your IT if you have it in slab but still

No point in trashing an unobtainable

[vital bay]

ye but im struggling with chest storage

[torpid acorn]

We always do just put some things in characters and lock them to sacrifice char storage for game storage

[vital bay]

yea thats what ive started doing

[slim bobcat]

how do you use idleonefficiency if you play with steam?

[torpid acorn]

You dont

[elfin wind]

Guys tried buying the starbook upgrade foor Lib hovever i dont get a book drop?

[torpid acorn]

Which upgrade? Like a max cap upgrade?

[elfin wind]

Both

[torpid acorn]

You have to go into the lib itself to grab books

[elfin wind]

tried just normally and with it enabled nothin :b

i mean i was stading in world 3 ooon it

[torpid acorn]

Wdym both i only listed one

[torpid acorn]

Whats enabled

[gilded herald]

Hey , i just build "Chest space" Lvl 1 but didnt get any chest space at all
Should i activate something?

[torpid acorn]

The moment you spend items is when an increase happens not on the build finish

[elfin wind]

u can enable to have it alwaays give max rank for 20x the books tthats what i mean

[gilded herald]

its lvl 1

[torpid acorn]

Then you already got the initial upgrade when you bought it and started the build

[wise crown]

does anyone have a chart or something about cog construction placement?

[torpid acorn]

I dont know of anything that guarantees max rank

[wise crown]

thank you so much

[elfin wind]

It's unlocked with the mech arm :b

etc

[torpid acorn]

Oh damn, okay i dont have that upgrade yet

[vital bay]

what is the special talent points given by stonks?

[torpid acorn]

The same you use to spend on it

You have to reopen the tab to see your gains

I think optimal is like 27 or something

[brave seal]

how do I finish this quest? so annoying ::

[vital bay]

oooh ok

[brave seal]

(I see the gap topleft, i filled it since, it's not progressed)

[torpid acorn]

Pretty much what youve been doing, leave the thing on over night and itll be more likely to finish

[brave seal]

ah ha :/

[torpid acorn]

You can also attack lads manually in that area if you want but thats tedius

[brave seal]

DK is the right choice for this then

I doubt if any other char will finish this quest :P

maybe ES..

thanks for the answer!

[torpid acorn]

I mean, they all could but yeah kill rate helps

[vocal hamlet]

I mean I did it on vman too and it certainly didnt take overnight...

[torpid acorn]

Its very random

[whole violet]

Does the talent "symbols of beyond" stack between characters?

[torpid acorn]

No

Only for char that has it

Leave one point in it and forget about it

[whole violet]

K thx

[marble silo]

what does fire do?

[torpid acorn]

In cooking? The higher it is the higher the chance of new dish

I do not know how the formula works tho

Oh also fire increases as you wait for a dish to cook, shown by the little bar

[uneven obsidian]

fire is the speed at which you learn a new recipe, once it maxed it can still increase to give better odds for each extra milestone

[faint willow]

React on blog

[vital bay]

where do i find owl and roo on IE

[random sonnet]

W1 and 2 drop downs i'm wrong, i don't think it has owl/roo but the raw data has it

[vital bay]

it doesnt show

[uneven obsidian]

IE doesnt have it integrated, only IT

[vital bay]

stamps, forge, anvil and alchemy, arcade

[vital bay]

okay

[eager maple]

GOOOOOOOOOO to the ribbon

[minor relic]

use cogtimiser or idleon efficiency they have optimisation tools

[pine fiber]

Monolithic came in clutch for crystal lake, holy shit

[candid summit]

oh fuck me
that code i wrote is obsolete, the math ive done is obsolete
the refinery rate has an alchemy bottle

[grave night]

Are we unable to place forbidden traps?

[white lintel]

Refinery rate as an alchemy bottle?

[meager matrix]

Assumedly they mean this

[white lintel]

Ah

[vital bay]

why do i get a lot of shiny mice but no shiny scorpions

[torpid acorn]

Look at the traps your using and whos collecting them

[vital bay]

oh yeah i didnt think about whos collecting them

[indigo stratus]

[fiery halo]

can i have some help? ive been in w3 for a week now and havnt really bothered in fixing this

[trail stirrup]

how do i get bigger print size, need 20 pens at 18.43

[trail stirrup]

holy shit how did u beat enfaunt???

[hoary pebble]

Have you been doing your clickers? Improving your alchemy? These two are big sources of accuracy and they helped me immensely. I don't think I ever lacked accuracy in w3 thanks to them.

[fiery halo]

not alchemy no

and i jina forgot about clickers

[hoary pebble]

Also, equip food to help your survivability. Make sure you also invest in the Haemoglobin special talent to boost survivability.

[pale comet]

whats a clicker?

[hoary pebble]

If you invest some time in doing the Owl clicker in w1 you can get a bunch of free stats to carry you.

[trail stirrup]

orion and penguins fish pond

[pale comet]

ahhh the bird and fish thing

[hoary pebble]

The owl in w1 and Poppy the Kangaroo Rat in w2

[trail stirrup]

yhh

[trail stirrup]

ik orion yk poppy xDD

[fiery halo]

i have hema

[hoary pebble]

maxed?

[fiery halo]

idk

[hoary pebble]

Max it asap, it helps a lot. Start investing in alchemy as much as possible and keep doing your clickers. Accuracy sources are plentiful and not hard to come by.

[fiery halo]

lvl 30

[hoary pebble]

Get it to 50 then. Work on that as well.

[fiery halo]

which ones in alchemy?

[hoary pebble]

The shaquracy bubble (green cauldron) boosts your accuracy by a solid amount.

[fiery halo]

i dont have that

[hoary pebble]

Unlock it then. You should make sure you unlock bubbles as you go because plenty of them help with progression. Practically all of them I reckon.

[fiery halo]

thats what ive been doing

i have been trying to unlock them

[hoary pebble]

Yep, keep it up. The shaquracy bubble will help you immensely with your accuracy.

[fiery halo]

what do do in the mean time

what bubbles to lvl

[trail stirrup]

ur playing the perfect tower 2. respect it

[fiery halo]

thanjs

[hoary pebble]

If you need to improve your resource printing, consider investing in the bubbles that boost those resources.

[hoary pebble]

Do you have two different talent presets, one for fighting and one for skilling?

[fiery halo]

yes

which i use

[vital bay]

are there any easy to farm/get gear i can get to fill up some slots?

[hoary pebble]

You use the skilling preset when you want to sample skilling resources and the fighting preset when you want to sample monster materials.

[fiery halo]

yes. i do.

[white lintel]

Boss wings, world trophies

Credit card

[vital bay]

omd XD

is the world trophies hard?

and the boss wings?

[white lintel]

Some yes

Others no

It depends where you are in the game too

[fiery halo]

which bosses drop wings?

[white lintel]

All nightmare variants

[fiery halo]

what chance?

[white lintel]

Check the nightmare card

[vital bay]

im early w4, should i get the w1-3 trophies?

[fiery halo]

dont have

[white lintel]

Nah

[fiery halo]

or can kill yet

[white lintel]

Not worth to do boss wings or world trophies

[vital bay]

the 250 one?

[rough jewel]

… another ribbon

[vital bay]

alright

[white lintel]

Well duh

[fiery halo]

@hoary pebble what bubbles to get

[hoary pebble]

Well the goal would be to unlock them all in the end.

[fiery halo]

i mean lvl

what to lvl

[hoary pebble]

If you're in need of stats, level the ones that give stats. Look at what each bubble gives and decide if it's something you're in need of. Though you'll eventually want to make use of what every bubble gives in the end.

[fiery halo]

ok

[fading rune]

How does the save disc work for TD?

Ah okay so it doesnt run out or anything?

[zenith hare]

murder

[astral lava]

What class should I use to farm Pearler Shell?

[white path]

active es

[austere hedge]

Anyone able to explain blood marrow? Shouldn't I be getting 87.56% instead of 2%?

[astral lava]

https://tenor.com/view/meme-discord-heads-stealer-gif-10362683700736854746

Was gonna be perfect if instead of meme "pic"

[vital bay]

just got grandma disguise first try XD

[astral lava]

Congrats

[vital bay]

thanks

[astral lava]

Just got Kattlekruk Cape on nightmare first try XD

[vital bay]

Congrats

i dont see the drop chance of cape on amarok, what is it?

[austere hedge]

Thank you

[willow bronze]

I am starting to level max some meals at lvl 30, where do I unlock more meals level?

[calm vault]

(only for nightmare amarok)

[vital bay]

oh ok i thought it was for chaotic

[still oxide]

What shiny pets increase pet damage

[dusty apex]

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1Q1Yo3xCw32A9aXulb31EH2inbDfuek5azhOjDaBmoP0/edit?gid=338259795#gid=338259795

you can also check on IT

[cobalt hatch]

how do i finish the let the tails hit the floor quest

im stuck on 1520/1540

[calm vault]

there's a small spot that isn't covered. Likely on the edge of one of the platforms

[cobalt hatch]

damn i cant be bothered to figure out where it is

[vital bay]

yummy

[calm vault]

I read somewhere that afking or candying (with auto loot off) is a decent way of filling the floor properly

viewer discretion is advised as I havent tried that stategy

[cobalt hatch]

i am afking rn i swear every tile where the leeches spawn is covered

[calm vault]

not like, active AFK of course but candy afk/different character afk (if that wasnt clear apologies if I'm misunderstanding)

[cobalt hatch]

oh its okay i cancelled the quest and it updated and is increasing i think i must have bugged it before somehow

[willow bronze]

My breedability becomes slow as fuck once I am T3 breed 😮

[oak mason]

Capes are only dropped by the nightmare boss

[calm vault]

@idle saddle For w3 dungeon I personally would recommend the ES, it's ability to shoot homing fireballs while skilling and the tornado's fire and forget nature make it a very good choice imo

[idle saddle]

oh wait was it world 3 for dream? whoops, though i need to do snakenhotep for achievement too anyways

[calm vault]

If you have dungeon rank 40 I would suggest using going for the coinflip purple rng item at the beginning and lucking into a horn of the foal, otherwise reset the run

[dusky pond]

is lv 90 the highest you can level food plates?

[idle saddle]

yeah im 45 rank atm and always get that

horn of the foal is the greatest

[calm vault]

oh lol for Snakenhotep I honestly recommend watching a video and keeping a wiki tab open for how to get the Wazams

Maestro and Bubo are particularly useful because of an interaction they have with the cactus stage

It's tougher and more time consuming/demoralizing than w3 dungeon sadly imo

[idle saddle]

yeah i looked at a video but its 2 years old not sure how up to date that is XD

[calm vault]

dungeons havent changed much

[idle saddle]

is the interaction to do with multihit then?

[calm vault]

yeah

The coin/shaman's damage vials attack

[obtuse whale]

you could get more drop if u have used DK orb stacks before doing it

[vital bay]

Yea i know but i dont have high enough level dk

[indigo stratus]

Youre just everywhere aren't you

[still agate]

any have idea to win the Molten bay?

[floral crest]

Try these? or mine which is guaranteed shield blocks at 2k whale drums stack

[vale basin]

For construction, now that I have all buildings unlocked, I can go hard into exp cogs, right? (Ideally without trashing flaggy rate as I've still not unlocked all the board)

[floral crest]

you'll always need construction xp ye

it's better long term since cogs are weak except for probably zen cogs

[tranquil latch]

construction lvls are your build rate 😄

[vale basin]

Aite yeah, thank ya. o7

[tranquil latch]

push those 2 😛 and keep spawning cogs

this helps a lot as well, i actually need a good 134 more lvls

[vale basin]

Tryna get my green salts sorted out before I can focus the carpenter bubble. Will do though

[tranquil latch]

that bubble is mostly carried by nblb so you need to make sure it gets hit everyday till you can atom it

[young ibex]

whats the easiest class to do the crystalswine quests on ?

[lyric basalt]

Anyone have any tips to get more mana, I just got ES and lvl 80 with 400 mana

Prob dk

Anyone with AOE or respawn

[random sonnet]

more mana for the bubble/damage, or more regen?

[tranquil latch]

alchemy

[lyric basalt]

Aight

[random sonnet]

also stamps, talents; pulsation star talent or mana pot for regen

[zenith hare]

which quest was that?

[vale basin]

MP regen from cryosnake card (w3 ice snake) and from the star talent "Pulsation" (dropped from w2 minibosses).

Otherwise, direct investments into "Mana Booster" on talent page 1, and wherever else you can access it. If absolutely necessary, throw on a stack of mana potions (you won't need these for long).

[lyric basalt]

Alr thx

[near magnet]

I've hit a wall on Breeding, even with looking at guides -- what should my average pet power level be for unlocking Coarse Mountains & getting past round 20 (ideally up to 35 but we're not talking about miracles here) in the arena? (& can I just... auto my way through.... please understand my reaction speed is Very Very Bad)

[zenith hare]

you don't need reaction speed, you can win with all on auto quite easily

you're likely reading the guide wrong or have too low pet power

[near magnet]

I know my pet power's low, I'm trying to figure out what it should be around

the guide sheet & the one in the pins only seem to list what your pet lineup should be, not what power they should be around :c

[zenith hare]

do you have beast master?

if not, that'll be why. and if you do, have you invested into the pet power multi talent?

[near magnet]

I do! That talent's only at level 36 since I couldn't find any non-active Beast Master build guides so I opted for caution (aka, I can make a lot of talent reset potions, if I fuck it up it's fine)

[tranquil latch]

You can beat everything with 10k if you got the right pets

[tranquil latch]

That don't exist anymore xD

[near magnet]

my pets average power ~400, there ain't no 10k around here

[tranquil latch]

That's definitely a issue. As you are lacking the required pets I bet

[zenith hare]

they are breeding level 20.