midgame-chat-w3🧊w4🔮

[astral lava]

It's oke.. most of us don't

[sleek pollen]

thats alright I do not as well

there is one in march and the other will be in november
so waiting time for it if f2p/no gamba

[dusk roost]

gonna take a while xD

I also need to max out the PO box

for crystal and dr

[sleek pollen]

welp take your dk and go farm some pen to max that out asap

[dusk roost]

is there any place to farm pens?

or any strat?

[sleek pollen]

crystal mob

I got tons (like a few hundreds, not that much compared to some but could max half my box) while crystal farming at beans and sandy pot for obol at first then statues

stamp and shrine

[deep rock]

is there any tome stat that counts the highest flame number you got into a recipe cooking?

[sleek pollen]

no

[astral lava]

no

[fallen ridge]

I checked and I didn't found it

[deep rock]

so it doesnt matter to track how high u get this

[rain scroll]

but u need the sneaking upgrade for it right?

[sleek pollen]

could've been if that task works same as registering the highest dmg so it register highest flame too

[astral lava]

Mmm, new critter! Here I come!

[sleek pollen]

for what? buying them cards?

[deep rock]

i finished that one as well, but is there any other use on having a high recipe flame count?

[fallen ridge]

for the chip u need that laboratory bling

[deep rock]

alright thanks everyone

[fallen ridge]

oh well I just need 8 more zeros and I can get the upgrade

[sleek pollen]

argh right fk the omega chip is on second chip slot didn't realize that

I guess time to lock in and sneak

[rain scroll]

did u get sov arti yet? @sleek pollen

[sleek pollen]

no

[rain scroll]

i got it today!

[sleek pollen]

im gonna suffer and not get sov or the lab bling in time before the omega chip

[sleek pollen]

gz

[rain scroll]

maybe me too but idk

ill try

[true hamlet]

Missing choco chip be like

[sleek pollen]

nah surely at least you can get lab bling in less than two month, i'm not even at T jade denomination

[sleek pollen]

next one in april

[true hamlet]

Ohm. That's actually better than I thought.. I should be able to snatch it then

[vague mica]

!merit3

[candid scarab]

1️⃣ One point into Telekinetic Storage which has an ability to deposit all items in your inventory into the chest while destroying everything on the ground. This is a great quality of life feature. Skip this if you have the ram companion.
2️⃣ Buy until you have 3 building spots and 3 food slots. This can be between 0 and 2 purchases depending on gem shop purchases. Food slots will help your pusher go faster and 3 building spots is a 50% construction speed boost.
3️⃣ Talent levels are hugely important and the library should be used as much as possible.
4️⃣ The 3D printer will be how you get most of you skilling materials in the future. To make good use of it you need your sample size to be as close to the 90% cap as possible.
5️⃣ Buy the rest. More slots = more better.
6️⃣ Leveling telekinetic storage gives up to +13.6% Carry Cap which is good for afking longer, stamps and crafting, but is not a priority early on.
7️⃣ You won't get enough points to consider buying respawn for a long time by which you will have cleared all W3 portals.
Get the first level when you reach rank 3 on orange salt and get another level each time a new salt reaches rank 3.
⚔️ The last recipe is for the Chizoars Caustic Scarf which is best in slot for a long time giving both damage and respawn. Get this when you can complete the associated task of beating Chizoar with 8 characters. Other recipes are for Chizoar gear. The helmet gives +15% damage and can be considered if you are making purple salt. The other pieces are mediocre but some make the chestplate for 3% damage.

[thorn mango]

I hate my life

[astral lava]

Both of you couldn't reach 110

Hey Reaper

[thorn mango]

This game just Hates me

[fallen ridge]

why is there a fireball and a basic (I don't know how it is called) tower?

[astral lava]

Set this as a goal for you

[thorn mango]

Basic for the knockback and fireball idk guide from pancake says so

[true hamlet]

Pulse mage

[fallen ridge]

isn't kraken always better for knockback?

[thorn mango]

Ye but pulse does a good job too plus don't question me ask pancake

[fallen ridge]

I think I used that one like 3 times then it went to the trashing can when I unlocked boulder

[astral lava]

Pancake is a legend in TD

[true hamlet]

Still need to upgrade it though.. I'll get around to that when I actually benefit from upgrading it

[rain scroll]

setup improving

ok now time to place party towers

i feel like ill do better in this map

[modern gate]

!meti3

!merit3

[candid scarab]

1️⃣ One point into Telekinetic Storage which has an ability to deposit all items in your inventory into the chest while destroying everything on the ground. This is a great quality of life feature. Skip this if you have the ram companion.
2️⃣ Buy until you have 3 building spots and 3 food slots. This can be between 0 and 2 purchases depending on gem shop purchases. Food slots will help your pusher go faster and 3 building spots is a 50% construction speed boost.
3️⃣ Talent levels are hugely important and the library should be used as much as possible.
4️⃣ The 3D printer will be how you get most of you skilling materials in the future. To make good use of it you need your sample size to be as close to the 90% cap as possible.
5️⃣ Buy the rest. More slots = more better.
6️⃣ Leveling telekinetic storage gives up to +13.6% Carry Cap which is good for afking longer, stamps and crafting, but is not a priority early on.
7️⃣ You won't get enough points to consider buying respawn for a long time by which you will have cleared all W3 portals.
Get the first level when you reach rank 3 on orange salt and get another level each time a new salt reaches rank 3.
⚔️ The last recipe is for the Chizoars Caustic Scarf which is best in slot for a long time giving both damage and respawn. Get this when you can complete the associated task of beating Chizoar with 8 characters. Other recipes are for Chizoar gear. The helmet gives +15% damage and can be considered if you are making purple salt. The other pieces are mediocre but some make the chestplate for 3% damage.

[rain scroll]

wave 60 reached

[thorn mango]

I'm concerned I did better doing speedy boulders than the guide I got to wave 100 spammed all them in until 110 and got to 30 guys left

[rain scroll]

going good so far

[slim mantle]

U sure thats not the do not repeat towers tome task setup? Xd

[thorn mango]

Huh

[thorn mango]

It was too

That's why that said do not repeat

[slim mantle]

Did not see that anywhere but tbf I gues.. discord on phone right now is not cooperating with screenshots

[astral lava]

I'm always using Discord from phone

[slim mantle]

It sucks. Just an away from pc solution

[rain scroll]

idk if ill reach 100

[thorn mango]

Which one do I use

[slim mantle]

U tell me

[thorn mango]

The 1st one bc I'm trash

[thorn mango]

Oh god

[slim mantle]

Like I said. Not cooperating on phone atm xd

[rain scroll]

dmg go brr with equinox

[slim mantle]

Wheres the M?

[rain scroll]

my poison only lv 12

reached 2500 on poison and 41k on stormcaller xD

base dmg is 208

[slim mantle]

This kid is going places. But not to worry parents, it won't be far xd

[rain scroll]

hmm?

[slim mantle]

Its a joke

[rain scroll]

ok 100 seems possible

[hot oracle]

Can someone give me a list of shiny pets to breed?

[astral lava]

Go for inf star signs and shiny speed

[hot oracle]

If I have all my inf star unlocked I should remove them from fence yard and replace with something else?

[rain scroll]

gone

[hot oracle]

Is there a tier list for what I should be concentrating on?

[slim mantle]

all skill efficiency and critters per trap are better than they sound, the rest u can take at face value tbh

[hot oracle]

Thank you

[rain scroll]

@slim mantle i unlocked sovereign

i spent 3 more 6h skips (all finished now)

[slim mantle]

nice but couldn't ya save 1 skip for me? :p

[thorn mango]

I give up its impossible

W1 td is impossible

[slim mantle]

??

[thorn mango]

I get to wave 100 and I just get overwhelmed my guys just don't do anything

I have tried every set up and nothing works

[slim mantle]

me when wave 100 doesn't even register as the slightest difficulty to me

[thorn mango]

Good for you

[slim mantle]

very impossible much wow

[rain scroll]

my farming also getting better slightly

[astral lava]

That's alot better than mine

[thorn mango]

Use starsign

From green starsigns it'll give you more crop chance

[astral lava]

Keith, do you have these as infinite?

[rain scroll]

i dont even have those starsign

i didnt reach seraph yet

[stiff vigil]

is there a talent or something that upgrades bubbles automatically? because a bunch of my bubbles are level 12 when i have lowkey not touched alchemy since unlocking it

[slim mantle]

lab node

[stiff vigil]

im only w3

[slim mantle]

did u happen to buy a bundle that also levels up stamps daily?

[stiff vigil]

ohh that could be it

i kinda just buy any new thing i see pop up in the gem store 😭

[slim mantle]

why the crying emoji? free bubble levels :p

[stiff vigil]

haha because i dont even look at whats included other than gems

[fallen ridge]

https://tenor.com/view/huh-confused-seriously-really-what-gif-10268620

[lusty yoke]

good comp for frosty peaks?

[stiff vigil]

i just buy shit bro

[rain scroll]

mhmm

what r some good jewels? @slim mantle

like very good ones besides the lab ones

[slim mantle]

u can look at what each does but what does it matter? u want them all and u can't chose which u get anyway

[astral lava]

There is an incoming jewel that I really want next week

But can't afford it yet, need spice

It's a black jewel

[rain scroll]

how do i improve my spice gain everything needs so much spice mats r not a problem now

[slim mantle]

see pins

[rain scroll]

OP

[slim mantle]

watch today release caverns 11-15 🙂

[rain scroll]

ima reset my opals now to whom do i give now eng/shaman/measurer?

its ok even if it comes i need to do other people they r too far behind

especially engineer is only lv 9

[slim mantle]

do engineer then

[rain scroll]

he shucks

[astral lava]

"Shaman"

[rain scroll]

big improvements soon

[astral lava]

Just do the one with the least req

[rain scroll]

kaipu is least by like 4x of 2nd least

[fallen ridge]

STOP DOING ALL INs!!!

[rain scroll]

why?

[slim mantle]

it's litterally the way to go

[rain scroll]

iv been progressing good since i started doing that

[fallen ridge]

split them a little u are gonna have measure underleveled....

[slim mantle]

you get more progress going all in

[fallen ridge]

don't u waste wishes doing this way?

[slim mantle]

worth the gains

[rain scroll]

well i need to come back after 1 hr? or u mean afk for 1 hr in short?

[fallen ridge]

same as bravery, afk there an hour

[slim mantle]

same as bravery, afk a guy there for an hour

[fallen ridge]

https://tenor.com/view/fd-gif-25482735

[astral lava]

Bravery as same, hour of afk

[rain scroll]

time to afk but i dont have any afk buffers like which gives more time

[astral lava]

It's oke

[slim mantle]

u get them from endless summoning and the monuments themselves

[rain scroll]

should i use 1?

or does it not work

also do i gamble chip/jewel?

[astral lava]

Lol

[slim mantle]

don't think it does for this

[astral lava]

Buy 3D printer slots

[astral lava]

Same

[fallen ridge]

wait until u have all jewels from the next weeks

[astral lava]

I would never buy jewels untill I have literally everyone except the black ones

[rain scroll]

what about chip

[shy ruin]

i just unlocked party starter, does it really do nothing before traits?

[astral lava]

It will always be random

[rain scroll]

what if i got left doubler but not prolly

[fallen ridge]

I will probably buy the blue one that gives trim slots, next in rotation is in like 200 days

[slim mantle]

you can't chose

[rain scroll]

i have it 😉

[fallen ridge]

I know but I won't wait for black only

[rain scroll]

wait why is ur world constantly increasing

[fallen ridge]

it's a joke 110=6 in binary

[rain scroll]

hmm

[sleek stone]

Guys what should i work on between w2 and 3?

[slim mantle]

tbf there no indicator to suggest for us to think in binary

[sleek stone]

Im lost lol

[rain scroll]

im thinking what i should do rn im kind abored doing td did w1(both)/w2

i should improve breeding!

idea now to implement it...

[sleek stone]

Damn push

[rain scroll]

whats the ideal power for pets or does it not matter @slim mantle

[sleek stone]

[slim mantle]

how is that a question? higher = better

[fallen ridge]

I don't know how to put a little 2 after the 110

[sleek stone]

Thats also a question? What should i upgrade other than armor for pushing

[rain scroll]

but still i only have 127 eggs so gotta keep that in mind

[slim mantle]

armor is overrated in this game anyway, gear does very little here

[sleek stone]

Ahh so what does increase dmg and other thing

[slim mantle]

just about every mechanic you come across matters

[sleek stone]

I just got back and very confused since already been years

[zenith hare]

murder

[slim mantle]

at that point I'd considder starting over on a new account so you actually understand everything, it takes like a day only to get to w2

[rain scroll]

ok so 1st 3 we need alchemic and bunny

i dont have panda sadly

[sleek stone]

Damn the material alr have so much

[rain scroll]

or is there any early panda like type?

[slim mantle]

bop boxes I believe it was, a bit earlier but still late in w3 pets

[rain scroll]

bop boxes im close to it i think (kinda)

[fallen ridge]

converter? there's the juke box

[rain scroll]

yep definetily close

its literally the next one

ima go rip some candies (1h) for genes

8h

42k genes

i need to lower it more

[fallen ridge]

level up things with grey genes, or upgrade kitchens

[rain scroll]

ok good

120 eggs 🙂

burnt 13h more candy

[rain scroll]

hmm??

[fallen ridge]

to increase chance for new pet

[rain scroll]

more than enough on boosting part

[rain scroll]

what do i do?

[fallen ridge]

#midgame-chat-w3🧊w4🔮 message

[rain scroll]

now enough genes

[keen stag]

What should my 7th class be

I alr have two sets of the basr

[dense egret]

What world are you in?

[keen stag]

4

[rain scroll]

ill just start working on team and while i get them ill trash bad ones and get some genes

[zenith hare]

jman

[dense egret]

I made a jman and kinda regretting it rn cuz it does nothing for me

[keen stag]

Hmm idk even know what jman does

All I know it's like passive stuff but idk

[dense egret]

The jman is kinda useless for early W4

[zenith hare]

he starts slow

but you need to make him start getting better.

and w4 is the perfect time for that

[keen stag]

What does he do again

I'm taking my sweet time in world 4

[dense egret]

A few things

[zenith hare]

due to everyone going in lab, as he buffs all ur chars if he is a higher skill level then them

[keen stag]

Hmm

[rain scroll]

how much does a high power wode matter?

what type pets matter most in foraging?

powerwise

[keen stag]

I think probably get a jman and build my other teams in guessing

[dense egret]

Im still waiting on all my characters getting elite classes till leveling up lab

[zenith hare]

w4 time is when you grind said skill level as no one else should be skilling

basically ever again, till mid w6 time

[zenith hare]

borger

[rain scroll]

borger only? anything else?

[zenith hare]

borger is what gives you ur fight and forage power

[shy ruin]

i just unlocked the rift hell yeah

[dense egret]

Should I put them in lab

[zenith hare]

get elites then put them in lab

[dense egret]

That's what I'm doing rn

[fallen ridge]

gives u random reward once a day => buff skill XP and efficiency for everyone for skills in W3 or lower and skips you quite a lot of time in your 3d printer => becomes a monster in printing and buffs all other char in a lot of different ways
that's the life of a jman up to ||vman||

[short kite]

So I'm on the feared rift 17 trying to get the lava skulls but all the info is contradictory

[short kite]

Some people say you need to kill the highest skull over and over so it upgrades, others to leave 1 mob alive and kill everyone else to stack it

[keen stag]

Any specific star signs or doesn't matter

[dense egret]

How exactly does a jman buff my other characters? Isn't that his sub class/elite class?

[rain scroll]

i wanna make my spice gathering speed go brr

[zenith hare]

and the latter is all said by idiots who hasn't done it before

here is how it works

[fallen ridge]

those are all buff provided by the beginner itself it doesn't require (almost) anything to give u this stuff; of course u can invest into it to get higher bonuses

[zenith hare]

kill a mob, 50/50 for a mob to get a skull. kill a skulled mob, 50/50 for a different mob to get a copper skull. kill a copper skulled mob, 50/50 for a mob to get a silver skull. etc.. if ever a mob were to get two of the same skull, one skull is forcifily deleted

[rain scroll]

why is there big power difference?

[zenith hare]

no forager above prisalle lake

[rain scroll]

i mean gathering difference

[muted crag]

No forager in upper?

[short kite]

Why do mobs seem to stack different tier skulls? I guess that's what confusing ppl

Thanks!

[fallen ridge]

every => was an "upgrade" of that class

[rain scroll]

oh yea

[muted crag]

Burger only gives buff if there is forager above

[zenith hare]

it just means they can roll for different skulls at omce

it'll all still work like normal

just do it multiple times per skull on the mob

[rain scroll]

lets gooooo!!! in 5 tries

[zenith hare]

now get the next pet so you can get shiny boop box

then move on to w4 pets

(shiny boop box is last inf starsigns)

[rain scroll]

inf starsign im not focusing much im not that good in breeding yet

[zenith hare]

just even getting it is fine

[rain scroll]

im trying to improve spice gains to get jewels

idk what pets and power should i focus

[zenith hare]

also inf star signs only need to get to level 7 for all star signs

[zenith hare]

do what you have been doing

with borger being main focus for forage speed

[rain scroll]

iv been doing bad i couldnt get enough spice ever to get a jewel

after months this jewel came back and i still have only 1k spice

[zenith hare]

which jewel?

[short kite]

I did it in like 2 minutes after your explanation lmao

Goat

[zenith hare]

np :3

[rain scroll]

current one

[zenith hare]

I've not been on the game

[hexed shoal]

Choc chip

[zenith hare]

get it ASAP

[hexed shoal]

No chese and no spice for chese) =

[rain scroll]

i think thats the last one then back in october it comes

[zenith hare]

cheese is easy to get

you have up to carrot in breeding?

!guide

[candid scarab]

Mid-Late Game guide for World 3 / 4 / 5:
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/e/2PACX-1vSCepYAs6sNDP4iq6MJNAG1pvFXzfC_3IQ7ttt5vfEEKAgQhIk4cQqnLRyeH6UyqDSuP4R-6WQeDmmP/pubhtml
Video Guides (by GriffyBit):
https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLVGSDQs1AcvjYTAPtYV6ofbeeEfHpEcb4

[hexed shoal]

Yeh

[zenith hare]

use that team to get it then

[hexed shoal]

I have that but i cant get past dungeneering dou

Duo*

[zenith hare]

you can, you just haven't tried enough

that or you haven't tried for alright level pets

[hexed shoal]

Best i can get them to is 600k hp

[zenith hare]

that hp sounds like you're beyond it

[hexed shoal]

All of them are near 2k

[zenith hare]

twilight desert is cheese spice

[rain scroll]

ye u r past it alrdy

u cleared the needed one alrdy

[fallen ridge]

do BM active if u want that jewel, I got more than 2k spices in less than 3 days

[rain scroll]

bm active is too bad

i hate standing for mobs to respawn

[zenith hare]

it's a good 4x multi

maybe do it at wurms

also get as much mob respawn gear on it as possible

[fallen ridge]

it's bad, but not THAT bad at least at wurms

[rain scroll]

my res is max hmm

but ill also need to go back to claim spice right?

[zenith hare]

yes

imo once an hour or two

[fallen ridge]

starsigns, starsigns doubler, upgrade armor, weapon and check if u have any mob respawn% keychain, lab chip for mob respawn

[zenith hare]

div scarf

[rain scroll]

i think div scarf need lv 350 to equip?

[zenith hare]

425

[hexed shoal]

I need 3 days for cheese

[zenith hare]

and yeah respawn chips

[fallen ridge]

I'm doing it with caustic

[zenith hare]

do you have every plate at diamond?

[hexed shoal]

I barely have shelf 1 complete

[zenith hare]

no wonder

[hexed shoal]

And no diamond chef yet

[zenith hare]

definitely no wonder

[fallen ridge]

https://tenor.com/view/bonk-gif-26414884

[zenith hare]

get dia chef ASAP.

Idc what you have to spend to get it, just get it

[rain scroll]

ok 1 levelup

eee

noice

[fallen ridge]

also domino effect

[zenith hare]

ima go spam levels into schem guy for update

[rain scroll]

unlocked it also

is F good?

[zenith hare]

it's nice

[rain scroll]

i saw roronoa had this at 7x multi lol mine is so low

[fallen ridge]

F can be good if u need to farm multiple notes that are close to each other at the same time;
to be fair cycling C into those notes gives u more notes overall

what u really want is the G string which I think is either at lv 11 or 12
P.S. it is at 12

[rain scroll]

ohh

so we use converters all the way to down eee

very useful indeed ig

[wise tundra]

hey guys i was just wondering, will using time candy on crystal ilsand do smoethin or not?

[agile willow]

nothing will happen

[fallen ridge]

crystal does nothing, fractal can be useful

[wise tundra]

okay thanks

btw any tips for W5? just got into it

[agile willow]

get ready for div jail

#lategame-chat-w5🌋-w6🌸 message

[wise tundra]

oh i had to acces to tha channel xDD sorry

[agile willow]

no problem

[unique escarp]

Simple question, the more pet chance the stronger it can be right?

[agile willow]

these two are unrelated

[unique escarp]

Is it just breeding level?

[zenith hare]

egg rarity, breeding level, and bm talent

[agile willow]

pet power is based on breeding lvl and egg rarity basically

[unique escarp]

That’s so dumb, that means there’s no reason to breed or splice after getting all the pets

[zenith hare]

to breed yes

as you get xp which levels up ur breeding level which gets you a higher pet power

[agile willow]

also you breed to get them shinies

[unique escarp]

Well yeah shines

[agile willow]

after you unlock all pets breeding becomes about the shinies

[unique escarp]

Yeah I guess it’s nice that you don’t have to use the space or resources

But it’s a little weird half the skill becomes obsolete

[zenith hare]

most of the game is like that

[rain scroll]

i need to have the spice claim talent max on everybody...

[unique escarp]

Eh disagree, most other skills have alchemy

But I guess those become obsolete at 100M

[fallen ridge]

if u want to HARD farm a particular spice don't claim all and go claim it every few minutes

[rain scroll]

should i do justice rn or after getting some hours?

[agile willow]

how many hours do you have and whats your multi?

[zenith hare]

divinity, gaming, sailing, cooking, lab, breeding, farming

[rain scroll]

i just unlocked justice

[agile willow]

i'd get at least the 10h bonus

[rain scroll]

i have like 8h i think rn

okay

[fallen ridge]

either u wait to unlock the 80 hours bonus or there is no point in waiting, the schematic that gives a bonus for each power of 2 hours AFK there is at level 16 engineer

[agile willow]

the next brick is 10h, right?

[fallen ridge]

80 if I remember correctly

[zenith hare]

woop

[agile willow]

yeah its 80

[rain scroll]

bravery was 10? justice isnt?

[agile willow]

i said it wrong, either wait for 80 or do one run now. If you can put everyone at bravery i'd wait 80h, but if it takes over 20 irl hours to 80/ till you can play again do it now

[agile willow]

no i just misremembered

[rain scroll]

ima just do

TADAAA

[zenith hare]

tadaaa

[rain scroll]

ur pro

[zenith hare]

dammit you have 0.1 more multi then me

[fallen ridge]

lemme see bonus

[rain scroll]

help me do justice

[zenith hare]

pretty bad

[rain scroll]

seems great to me

[slim mantle]

... go do justice

[zenith hare]

for how far in the game i am, its really bad

[rain scroll]

someone teach me justice

[zenith hare]

occido you do so

[slim mantle]

I'll just refer to irineu showing videos of xaya I got most my justice rewards this past week thanks to that

overall mine are pretty bad too for what it could have been

[fallen ridge]

either choose what u think is better, or consult the wiki to know exactly what each encounter does

[rain scroll]

wiki has that?

what do i search

[slim mantle]

caverns

[rain scroll]

i searched justice couldnt find it

[agile willow]

https://idleon.wiki/wiki/The_Caverns#Monument_Of_Justice-1

[fallen ridge]

there's a thing that you have to click to see all encounters

[rain scroll]

found it list of all npc interactions

where does it say f we should do dismiss or accept im kinda confused i found the thing but it says can accept without having coins etc little timmy

[tender ocean]

[slim mantle]

alright, down to must rely on nslb procs cuz no carry capacity / don't wanna spend that many gold nomwiches :p

[fallen ridge]

one column are outcomes for accepts, one are for rejects and dismiss usually lets you skip the encounter

[hexed shoal]

Where should i use my bubo for cranuim cooking

[rain scroll]

started!!

does everyone get same procs are or is luck based?

[slim mantle]

you lack the requirements for any decent kind of cc farming anyway

[hexed shoal]

Most is luck based and most is coin based

[fallen ridge]

random, every 5 encounters u find a death

[hexed shoal]

I can see that i suck thank you for making me know again

[slim mantle]

shit ain't worth bothering till lvl 200 talents

[hexed shoal]

I only can get up to 159)=

[rain scroll]

he came for my chest

[hexed shoal]

If i get lvl 147 book

[slim mantle]

so work on upping it

[rain scroll]

what do i do?

[crude ocean]

How do you get talent points in your elite class

[slim mantle]

reject it, ur not at a point where u can benefit from approving this

[zenith hare]

be above level 75 and per class level you get 2

[rain scroll]

ok

[zenith hare]

something around there anyways

[crude ocean]

Alright thanks

[fallen ridge]

reject next encounter will probably lose u the run

[rain scroll]

ok im alrdy dead thanks to scripticus for taking my 2 coins

[zenith hare]

whats wrong here

[rain scroll]

nothing all good

[hexed shoal]

The 69

[tender ocean]

do the gamble

[zenith hare]

im considering it

[zenith hare]

70 is death

or the good version

as i have a high pop its a gamble

[fallen ridge]

don't u want to reject death with 1 mental health?

[zenith hare]

i mean i cant pay off death anyways

[tender ocean]

either way, with his coins you can most likely pay him

[hexed shoal]

Pray for grumblo you get good

[rain scroll]

what r the best ones from here

[tender ocean]

to expensive?

[rain scroll]

justice is so much harder than bravery ;-;

[zenith hare]

nice

[tender ocean]

[hexed shoal]

Arti or harp i think

[rain scroll]

ima do arti cuz its +20

[zenith hare]

again??

[rain scroll]

its so sad i only got 2 chest in 3.9x multi justice is bad 😦

[fallen ridge]

artifact caps at x6, +20 is good though

[tender ocean]

Gamba again

dead either way

[rain scroll]

OPAL time

[hexed shoal]

Its in the script bro trust

[zenith hare]

i was gonna die anyways ig

-1 mental health

[tender ocean]

close tho

[hexed shoal]

Oof 10 coins off

[rain scroll]

im so sad justice gives so good buff but so hard 😦

[rain scroll]

bro i was 1 coin off

[zenith hare]

early justice is slow

starting with more coins is very nice

[fallen ridge]

technically you lost the multiplier by choosing the opal, but opals are huge

[hexed shoal]

You needa do justice jail bruv

[rain scroll]

bravery time

[fallen ridge]

he also needs engineer at 16

[rain scroll]

well hello there little opal

im really lucky at these type of things..

[fallen ridge]

like I have 1/4 of his time in bravery but more or less x4 his bonuses due to engineer being ignored

[hexed shoal]

@zenith hare what should my opals be like?

[zenith hare]

as high as possible

[rain scroll]

how many opals do u have?

[hexed shoal]

I got 10/10/6/2

[zenith hare]

depends on what you need

[hexed shoal]

And i can reset right now if i want to

[zenith hare]

spam resetting early is bad

[rain scroll]

u have 28 opals...

[hexed shoal]

Its the 2nd or 1st reset i think

[zenith hare]

bad

get 10 in each

[rain scroll]

u must have 40-50 opals

[hexed shoal]

Never reall cared about resets

[fallen ridge]

occido said all opals in one villager...

[zenith hare]

thats later on

early hole no

[slim mantle]

not at the very start... 28 opals is nothing

[rain scroll]

im doing that and im happy hole is progression good

what lv engineer should i go for before next reset?

[fallen ridge]

16 minimum, probably even more

[rain scroll]

hard

but lets see

[slim mantle]

iirc all existing bonusses are unlocked at 18

[zenith hare]

2 hours be like

[rain scroll]

in bravery i focus exp only and then 2nd bucket fill

[fallen ridge]

you should also focus opal chance

[rain scroll]

okay

[slim mantle]

don't quite feel like investing into opal chance to maybe make this a 0.02% tbh

[fallen ridge]

unless u found a ton of opals and whatever increased chance gives minimal buff (which I don't know when this happens)

[rain scroll]

i got opal with 0.2% just now

[fallen ridge]

I was writing exactly that

[tender ocean]

more opals= better person

[slim mantle]

0.01 vs 0.02% I'll take my chances tbh

[tender ocean]

how many you got from there

[slim mantle]

13

[tender ocean]

what's your level on extra chance

[rain scroll]

time to runn

[tender ocean]

I mean, taking it once in a while doesn't hurt

[zenith hare]

you have more time then me :3

[slim mantle]

sure I'll grab it when other choices are dmg and cooking

[tender ocean]

the amount of damage is crazy for 11.5k hours

[rain scroll]

its without any modifiers

[zenith hare]

do i go further

[fallen ridge]

when u are gonna unlock first try and reroll keeper u are gonna x20 your damage probably

[tender ocean]

that's doable

[rain scroll]

are schematics very expensive??

[zenith hare]

ima not risk it, got lucky earlier on and pushed last throw to a 20% miss chance

[fallen ridge]

assuming the chances for each number are equal or at least in a gaussian curve, and u have at least 6 sword (which u have) u should be able to clear it

[zenith hare]

my bonuses now

[tender ocean]

we will never know

[fallen ridge]

not really, but they provide huge bonuses, especially considering u have 15 rerolls

[rain scroll]

hmm

[fallen ridge]

reroll keeper for you is a simple x2.5 your base damage, first try could be either an x3 or even more if you risk a little (not much considering your base damage)

[rain scroll]

to increase my base dmg i need to upgrade the measurer bonus alot and my multi is so low

[fallen ridge]

if risk too much or if you lowroll is gonna be useless though

[rain scroll]

i saw roronoa's it was 7.smthn x

[fallen ridge]

that also helps

[rain scroll]

how much is ur multi?

[zenith hare]

smh

justice here

[fallen ridge]

pretty low

[rain scroll]

bean do u not have the coins/h bonus?

[zenith hare]

ofc i do

IT is just wrong

[rain scroll]

so less bonus 😭

[echo radish]

https://tenor.com/view/nflying-nfia-jdon-leeseunghyub-shock-gif-20432198

[rain scroll]

material from harp

[rain scroll]

if something for cavern comes i wont be able to do it

[fallen ridge]

get G string and pluck it a few days and you will see a lot more notes gain

[echo radish]

why is ur damage so hella low

[zenith hare]

cause for the past month ive logged in 3 times

[fallen ridge]

I think because he is missing 10 rerolls

[echo radish]

ive logged in like 5 and my damage isnt that low

[slim mantle]

they don't show in that menu to begin with

[zenith hare]

and you have everyone into bravery basically

[echo radish]

yeah obv

[zenith hare]

i have 5 5

[echo radish]

hows ur damage looking like?

[echo radish]

oh its a hour diff, ur measurer bonus is lower level but u have more skill level so u win on that

[rain scroll]

21k is crazy

[slim mantle]

hold up... I have more skill level than u?

[echo radish]

yeah not even close, you should know that i basically only ever touch my dk

[slim mantle]

I went and grabbed as many levels as I could recently

[echo radish]

maybe i should do it too

its sounds like pain tho

[slim mantle]

M3 unlocking time

[echo radish]

do u know what the 24k hours bonus is?

[echo radish]

holy big gains

[slim mantle]

for bravery? another sword

[echo radish]

ah cringe

also whats ur bfr at

[slim mantle]

[echo radish]

actually insanely huge

[slim mantle]

it's hurting right now, I reset my bell in hopes to get it up higher and my rng got sucked into villager xp sadly

[rain scroll]

where is it from??

[slim mantle]

was higher before I reset it

[slim mantle]

sneak mastery 3

[rain scroll]

oo

[echo radish]

damn i still havent caught up

[rain scroll]

mine is also tiny

[tender ocean]

[rain scroll]

am i doing it right??

[echo radish]

Shush

[tender ocean]

I saw that Shuah

[echo radish]

Hawk shuah

[rain scroll]

am i doing it wrong/

[tender ocean]

eww, he is also into spitting on people now

[rain scroll]

why is my bucket rate so small compared to yall

[echo radish]

Bro is on shrooms

[slim mantle]

do you really have to ask when you're like 1.5 month behind in hole?

[echo radish]

Skill issue, bravery and lamp

[rain scroll]

1 month i think?

how big multi do yall have?

[slim mantle]

progresswhise it's atleast 1.5

[tender ocean]

3.99

[fallen ridge]

at least it's not 4

[tender ocean]

soon maybe, I have more damage now

[rain scroll]

wow

my new bucket setup

[tender ocean]

he can't catch up easily tho anyway, overall account progression speeds up a ton

[rain scroll]

how do yall focus ur buckets?

[slim mantle]

I know but he is very far behind to begin with, like he didn't play for a month for example

[rain scroll]

ye i didnt play but all chars in bravery so i have 10k hrs

[tender ocean]

yeah, it's a forever behind kind of thing

[rain scroll]

btw i unlocked sov arti today 🙂

[finite mist]

How do i make cogclicking faster? Directional exp cogs are very rare, and i get 1 purple cog every 10 seconds

[rain scroll]

how do insta grow work?

[slim mantle]

use insta grow, crop instantly grows

[fallen ridge]

spam harvest all; but u need a lot of levels into speed, squirrel, crops and kitsune (I am probably missing something)

[rain scroll]

just spend 6 insta grows for crop ( to try unlock new plot)

few more

oh sheesh just wasted 3 on clicking same crop again eeee

but finally after using 22 instagrows

[slim mantle]

clicking same allows u to get OG if u unlocked it

[rain scroll]

but ig low chance so got nothing

[slim mantle]

probably, depends on ur og chance

[rain scroll]

got 2 plots at once i alrdy had enough potato

next up is tomato

rn im doing chilli then ill do tomato

what seed should i plant?

[visual gyro]

Oh wow u progressed in farming alot

[visual gyro]

Should've saved the insta grows for the achievement tho

[rain scroll]

its okay

[rain scroll]

some vials and meals helped

i have 36 crops rn

[visual gyro]

I can't win the w6 spice battles for some reason

[rain scroll]

ehh

[visual gyro]

Lvl?

[rain scroll]

i won all i could

37

[visual gyro]

Nub

[visual gyro]

Me 40 😎

[rain scroll]

how many crops?

[shy ruin]

How much does normal troll heal per failed task

[visual gyro]

Lemme see

[visual gyro]

Eh not alot

[rain scroll]

did u unlock sov artifact? @visual gyro

[visual gyro]

Nope I forgot about it

[zenith hare]

5% iirc

[rain scroll]

i unlocked it today

[shy ruin]

Oh

[visual gyro]

38 get better Lil bro

[rain scroll]

alrdy got all island 1 and 2/3 island 2

[shy ruin]

5% of like 80m iirc that's not a lot

[zenith hare]

it could be 10%

[visual gyro]

My luck with artifacts is shit

[rain scroll]

when i claimed 1st run of chests

i got all 4 from w1 with 0.6% chance

in 20-30 chests

my tiny artifact collection is getting bit better

[rain scroll]

hmuch dmg u at?

[visual gyro]

Idk

[rain scroll]

max

[visual gyro]

Last time it was 1.2t on bubo

[rain scroll]

oh my dk reached 2T

[fiery falcon]

How to increase bug capacity?

[visual gyro]

Noice

[empty talon]

When should you get a journeyman?

[rain scroll]

i need more total account skill level

[visual gyro]

Some people get it on the 7th slot some 10th

[empty talon]

Okey thx

[rain scroll]

😎

so sad..

[uneven obsidian]

you'll eventually reach a point where you'll spend it without even thinking about how much you have

[rain scroll]

aaaaa

i wanted to try work on everyone's tools

and get everyone's skill level up

should i do any other onyx farm?

maybe the book

[blazing orchid]

does this also level up shrines or do i still have to place them?

[rain scroll]

same map to level

[blazing orchid]

ok

[rain scroll]

or maybe same town but idk

ik same map is 100% but same world im not sure

definetily not works on all worlds

[uneven obsidian]

the shrine will level up if you have character in the same world as the town you placed them in

[rain scroll]

oo

[cerulean meteor]

my printer samples are at 60.9% on my best characters, what can i do to improve it

[zenith hare]

royal sampler

[minor relic]

any breeding help stuck at pet territories after the christmas spice

[zenith hare]

what pets you got?

[minor relic]

i got mono defender refiller and ratler

[zenith hare]

how much pet slots?

[minor relic]

4

i cant get to arena 40 yet with the same comp

[zenith hare]

mono shouldnt ever be used for arena

[minor relic]

oh rlly

[zenith hare]

rattler, refiller, wode board, nutto

thats to unlock 5th slot

[minor relic]

then after that

[zenith hare]

one of these two for 6th slot

need 3rd pet in w3

once youve done that, these two will beat all territory battles

[minor relic]

hold on i can choose wichever here i dont NEED the eggshell

[zenith hare]

its incredibly rare to win with top one without eggshell unlocked

as looter triggers egg shell ability

which gives a 90% block chance

[reef oak]

Upgrading my bronze tools. Should I upgrade for main stat or accuracy?

[zenith hare]

which makes wave 115-125 easier as they basically one shot you

[zenith hare]

if you need acc, then acc

[minor relic]

ok thanks man

[zenith hare]

btw use this for wave 200 for the damage bonus

itll take ab 2 hours max

[modern gate]

my god this game gets even more and more complicated

[mossy spear]

at what point should i try to get maestro to next class

[dense egret]

When you feel like you don't love yourself anymore

[mossy spear]

i just went and looked at whats needed for the questline...
i think i'll just wait a while still

[vernal plank]

maestro to vman is a lot less painful than journeyman to maestro, at least for me

[dense egret]

I wanna make my jman maestro but the skill level required are higher than ones I had on the other main toons

I probably should've waited for my 8th character

[vernal plank]

the benefits of maestro to your account are incredibly minimal early on, if ur early w4 id strongly recommend just dumping the candy and stuff into pushing to w5/6

you get way bigger bonus' from those than left/right hand gives ya

[dense egret]

Ppl say W4 should be taken slow tho

[vernal plank]

iv only heard that skilling wise- and only because w5 also had a jail skill

[uneven obsidian]

w4 is rush to elite, then can take it slower, cuz acc might cause problems XD

[vernal plank]

now that you can candy w5 id rush as much as you can

cause w6's skills are way more account friendly

[uneven obsidian]

yeah but timegated

[cerulean meteor]

i have that alr

[vernal plank]

nah, you get a nice trickle of them right off the bat

[cerulean meteor]

sorry it took me so long lol was in a call

[vernal plank]

all 3 skills start giving you stuff right off the bat, where div takes forever to get going

actually all 3 w5 skills take a lot of time to really get much value out of account-wise

[wicked drum]

Hey where's the black scorpion critter at?

[vernal plank]

Ephaunt boss room

[uneven obsidian]

scorpion are at steak

[vernal plank]

OH mb, im thinking dung beatles then

[latent bramble]

#midgame-chat-w3🧊w4🔮 message

[short siren]

So I'm experiencing cog overflow now that nice. But what determines the cog levels or is it just raw RNG?

[zenith hare]

it's based on ur highest construction level

[short siren]

Ahhhhhh 779 well nothing I can do about that but wait then thanks bean

[silver pine]

hey i just got to w4 and i connected some of my characters in the lab but i only get 5xp per hour seems like a waste

[uneven obsidian]

thats lab in a nutshell, it got a different xp curve than other skills

[silver pine]

got 6/7 in the lab to get daily lvls in my alch bubbles

[vernal plank]

it speeds up, theres a stamp that gives lab exp pretty early on, once you push to the elite classes guy your shiny new Bubo also juices lab levels nicely

[deep wigeon]

should i put dice obol farm on hold untill i get choco chip? (divinity stuck)

[reef oak]

I just got es and farming for monster drops is insane. Cant believe I had to afk on spores for my refinery. Now it takes like 5 minutes.

[marble silo]

what's the best tower to upgrade?

[torpid acorn]

Early on its boulder man

THE BOULDER

[stone inlet]

Gets even better too. Soon after ES I went to my other skills and leveled everything up to 20 for the extra Skill points. Got huge boost and leveled him up to level 130 from 105. Needless to say that was a huge boost too. Now I'm clearing all the world's in order and getting 100k of each monster material. Doesn't take long at all if I'm active and even if I'm not it's still very quick

[marble silo]

looks like skipping to w4 would be worth for printer and refinery

[silver pine]

any reason why almost everybody ingame i doubleclick doesn't upgrade their gear?

[latent bramble]

amarok carries hard to w5

[silver pine]

?

[torpid acorn]

Amarok armour that is

[silver pine]

ik the armour but idk what is meant by crries hard to w

w

w5

[uneven obsidian]

starting with w4 the stone give +main stat when applied, and with the amout of slots in amarock gear it can last you up to w5 just fine

[deep wigeon]

are lab rings worth?

[uneven obsidian]

just need to recraft it

upgrade it if you can also

[deep wigeon]

dont have recepie

[torpid acorn]

They drop from demon genies im pretty sure

[deep wigeon]

not upgraded one

[uneven obsidian]

the recipe drop from mutated mush

[torpid acorn]

Ah mb

[uneven obsidian]

bully the w4 miniboss more

[deep wigeon]

bully him and his twin 1x a week

[uneven obsidian]

doing so on dk ?

[deep wigeon]

ES i think🤔

[uneven obsidian]

dk give better result because of orb

[torpid acorn]

Whatever your main is, but switch to ES

[deep wigeon]

ES is 150lvls higher than rest

[deep wigeon]

get orb high bonus b4 i strike then i would assume?

[marble silo]

why does the IE autoreview tool only show w1 tips and not the other two?

[uneven obsidian]

what do you mean exactly ?

[marble silo]

this is the entire thing , it doesnt show any alchemy or refinery or construction and there are no more tabs and i cant scroll down

[deep wigeon]

have u scrolled down?

[marble silo]

have you read the message?

[uneven obsidian]

i dont see the alert on mine at all so not sure why

[abstract granite]

am i missing some kind of mechanic for eagle eye trap-o-vision - its been over 8 hours on all my 24 hour traps but it says theres still 20 hours remaining

[uneven obsidian]

talking about hte rift bonus ?

[abstract granite]

no just the spell

[uneven obsidian]

eagle eye just allow you to claim all trap, need to press the button when they complete for it to work

[abstract granite]

i set them using it 8 hours ago

[uneven obsidian]

not used auto

[abstract granite]

but it says theres 20 hours remaining still

on a 24 hour trap

[uneven obsidian]

did you go back to player select menu and keep the game open on it ?

[abstract granite]

game has been open ever since

[uneven obsidian]

you need to either close the game completly or be active on a character for trap time to pogress. if you stay at character select screen time will be frozen for them

[abstract granite]

ah ok

that makes sense

thankyou

it was driving me crazy

[uneven obsidian]

it doesnt make sense but welcome to lavalogic

[latent bramble]

you can get to w5 with amarok armor if you work on the rest of your account enough. i don't know, specifically, what armor you're seeing people in. but unlike other actual MMOs, armor isn't the most important thing in this game

[candid scarab]

1️⃣ One point into Telekinetic Storage which has an ability to deposit all items in your inventory into the chest while destroying everything on the ground. This is a great quality of life feature. Skip this if you have the ram companion.
2️⃣ Buy until you have 3 building spots and 3 food slots. This can be between 0 and 2 purchases depending on gem shop purchases. Food slots will help your pusher go faster and 3 building spots is a 50% construction speed boost.
3️⃣ Talent levels are hugely important and the library should be used as much as possible.
4️⃣ The 3D printer will be how you get most of you skilling materials in the future. To make good use of it you need your sample size to be as close to the 90% cap as possible.
5️⃣ Buy the rest. More slots = more better.
6️⃣ Leveling telekinetic storage gives up to +13.6% Carry Cap which is good for afking longer, stamps and crafting, but is not a priority early on.
7️⃣ You won't get enough points to consider buying respawn for a long time by which you will have cleared all W3 portals.
Get the first level when you reach rank 3 on orange salt and get another level each time a new salt reaches rank 3.
⚔️ The last recipe is for the Chizoars Caustic Scarf which is best in slot for a long time giving both damage and respawn. Get this when you can complete the associated task of beating Chizoar with 8 characters. Other recipes are for Chizoar gear. The helmet gives +15% damage and can be considered if you are making purple salt. The other pieces are mediocre but some make the chestplate for 3% damage.

[vernal plank]

Armor has a pretty minimal impact on your ability to progress until you get later into the game. it doesn't start giving good benefits like %stat until like world 5, and defensive things can be gained from the alchemy skill and just having a lot of HP on your Divine Knight or picking up a talent on your mage that essentially makes your mana bar your hp bar

[errant laurel]

Where do i get recipes for zhizors blankie 1rst 2nd 3rd upgrade

[willow bronze]

I have 2 questions about breeding, I would like to focus on it a little.

1. Where should I farm with my BM for the whale reinforcement to speed up my eggs?
2. When is it the good time to start shiny?

[vernal plank]

gmush or wurms

immediatly after you unlock them

[willow bronze]

Thanks 🙂

[zenith hare]

gmush?

[vernal plank]

green mushrooms

[zenith hare]

ik who they are but why active bm at gmush

they're an utterly terrible map

[dapper remnant]

isnt beans better

[vernal plank]

because kills on them is infinitely useful

[astral lava]

Because the mob count

[vernal plank]

beans is better strictly for crystal farming yes, but... they also don't contribute to lab stacks

the equinox cloud alone takes 200billion

[zenith hare]

not active kills

[vernal plank]

kills are kills

[zenith hare]

wasting ur time on active bm there (lowering shiny gains by over 3x) is wasting kills as you could instead be active es there for farrrr more kills

it's just a waste of time.

[vernal plank]

if you're activing on ES you can't active on BM

[zenith hare]

precisely

so you want to cut down on ur active bm time

by making active bm FAR more efficient

(not doing it in gmush)

bm is ONLY good on high mob density maps

[vernal plank]

you'll always need shiny levels

lets be real bm isn't good on any map

[zenith hare]

wurms, citringes, chiefs, guardians

[zenith hare]

yes and you'll get them not being on bm too

[vernal plank]

and wurms has no tertiary benefits besides just the shiny farm

[steel agate]

Anyone know any tricks to the pet arena not freezing ...last 2 days it freeze on wave 71/72 and 55 ...no lag issues whatsoever it jut all the sudden freezes and have to restart game!?!?

[zenith hare]

golden hampters

[zenith hare]

unlock alchemic

you have flashy and not alchemic which crashes you

[vernal plank]

which by your own logic can be farmed way more effectively on another active toon

[astral lava]

Grilled cheese

[zenith hare]

correct

the only reason you go on bm is shiny levels

[steel agate]

im not even sure what that means

[zenith hare]

so you want to do it on bm as fast as possible

[zenith hare]

you have bunny in w3

and don't have bloque in w3

[vernal plank]

idunno to me its the same logic of crystal farming on gmush instead of beans

[astral lava]

Meme remembers every single pet's specialty

[steel agate]

like dont have bunnies collecting ingredients?

[zenith hare]

the fact it's over 5x worse??

[zenith hare]

having bunny makes it so looter uses its ability

[vernal plank]

you get 5x the amount of crystals on beans vs mush?

[zenith hare]

and the only way for bunny to not crash your game is to also have alchemic, which is bloques

[steel agate]

ahhh

[zenith hare]

yeah, and ur orb is also like 150/200 worse on gmush

[steel agate]

so pretty much i have to use bloque in my build or dont use looter?

[zenith hare]

making gmush over 10x worse to active on

[empty mulch]

!merit

[astral lava]

What do u want bro

[zenith hare]

no

[empty mulch]

!merit4

[candid scarab]

1️⃣ Buy one point of spice spillage. This gives you up to a 20% chance to claim all your spices when claiming over an hour of afk gains. Since spices generate more slowly the more you have produced since last claim this will improve spice production.
2️⃣ Having more bubbles get upgraded each day will help a lot, especially when combined with buffs giving more levels per bubble. Only buy this if you can reach the No Bubble Left Behind node in the lab.
3️⃣ Egg capacity is limited and every time the hatchery fills up eggs are wasted until you unlock the rarity upgrade. Also helps you get two achievements with good rewards requiring egg capacity.
4️⃣ Allows you to connect to lab bonuses from slightly farther away which can reduce the number of characters needed in the lab. Note that the max distance between characters, which is called line width, doesn't increase.
5️⃣ Improves kills per hour in W4 but since you likely won't be pushing W4 portals for long this is relatively low priority.
6️⃣ Max level spice spillage triggers every time. They are lower priority since it takes a lot of star talent points and is likely to trigger several times in a row when checking multiple characters.
7️⃣ 3 crystal mobs per day is very little.
Unlocks the recipes for troll armor giving all stat% and the base for all further armor upgrades. It is great but require plenty of Nullo Salt. Don't buy it if you can't craft them.

[zenith hare]

pretty much you want to unlock alchemic so looter can use both alchemic and flashy

alchemic makes flashy good basically

vs crashing game bad

[vernal plank]

i mean i legit didn't know that gmush was that much worse for crystals, i could have already finished gstacking my potions ig

[zenith hare]

you can tell by just how bad the map is

[zenith hare]

low mobs, 2 platforms

[steel agate]

so this setup will crash the arena

[zenith hare]

don't use that team

[astral lava]

Both Gmush and Beans have 2 platforms, but Beans have higher mob count

[zenith hare]

vastly higher

more mobs means more mobs to kill

[vernal plank]

right. i understand beans was better i just had no numerical values as to how much

[astral lava]

Ye

[zenith hare]

more mobs dead means more crystals and higher orb

[twin bay]

i got 1k gems what should i get

[zenith hare]

higher orb means more crystal drops, more crystals means...well more crystals killed

[steel agate]

is this good to not crash?

[astral lava]

!gemshop

[zenith hare]

you waste more time then you gain

[zenith hare]

I mean don't use it as it's a very bad team

[steel agate]

i just dont want it to crash 😛 ya my guys are pretty weak

[twin bay]

only 1?

[zenith hare]

rattler, mono, refiller, defender, refiller is better

restart till first refiller lives after mono use

[zenith hare]

that's a very bad list

!guides

!guide

[candid scarab]

Mid-Late Game guide for World 3 / 4 / 5:
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/e/2PACX-1vSCepYAs6sNDP4iq6MJNAG1pvFXzfC_3IQ7ttt5vfEEKAgQhIk4cQqnLRyeH6UyqDSuP4R-6WQeDmmP/pubhtml
Video Guides (by GriffyBit):
https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLVGSDQs1AcvjYTAPtYV6ofbeeEfHpEcb4

[steel agate]

i mean ill try but the game keeps crashing i guess for now just ditch the looter

[zenith hare]

one in that top spreadsheet is far better

[astral lava]

Cuz of it being before roo and owl?

[zenith hare]

no

[astral lava]

Then what?

[zenith hare]

because it was before w5

[astral lava]

I don't even think that he reached w5

[zenith hare]

he has

[twin bay]

im w6

wait, me or someone else

[astral lava]

Why ask in this channel then

[zenith hare]

before you even

[twin bay]

i talk here the most and the other ones are kinda dead

[vernal plank]

what do roo and owl have to do with the gem shop o.o

[zenith hare]

because this channel is fine for any questions tbh

[astral lava]

Alr then, what gemshop item do u think it's bad tiered after hole update?

[zenith hare]

and also w5/6 chat is quite unfriendly

[astral lava]

never asked there tbh

[twin bay]

yeah, very

[astral lava]

Or even help there

[zenith hare]

on the command?

[astral lava]

Ye

[zenith hare]

minus top tier, all of them

[marble silo]

i just unlocked w4 and im doin the first spice, do i afk on lab for 32 years or wait a bit?

[astral lava]

Lol

[zenith hare]

you get all elite classes if you can. for everyone who can't push rn they stay in lab

[astral lava]

All your characters except pusher is in lab

[zenith hare]

till they can push

after they get their elite class, send them to lab till end of w5 minus for resampling for printer, minus whichever class you decide you want to push through all of w4

[deep wigeon]

what soul should i claim at soul aparatuz for most exp?

[marble silo]

i see

[zenith hare]

highly depends on wave, I find w4 is most likely to be best though

[neon sphinx]

Can someone help me get my stuff together? I'm starting to get warnings for the mid stages of world 4 and dont know how to effectively get my accuracy and defense higher outside of clickers/alchemy

[zenith hare]

look at nearly anything else in the game and it helps

[uneven obsidian]

dungeon flurbo can help with accuracy/defence

[zenith hare]

main things for accuracy: cards, card sets, obols, star signs, dungeons, prayers, clickers, alchemy, stamps, sub stats on gear via w4 stones, talents

defence: ignore it, use food

healing food is busted

aim for plat bags (or dementia) and you're set till you get auto arm

(food pouches I mean)

[west elk]

For some reason im not getting the star book for the 3d printer sampling. Is this a bug and if so how do i fix it

[zenith hare]

talk to the ice cream npc and do his quests

[deep wigeon]

well, been neglecting them too hard, waiting for power on my BM, cuz atm its 53,49,23,0,0,0 badly needs fixing

[west elk]

Thats how i get the starbook?

[zenith hare]

yes

[west elk]

Ok

[astral lava]

Sup meme

Hey meme, How?

[zenith hare]

how?

[astral lava]

How?

[zenith hare]

e

[twin bay]

what

mp doesnt boost acc on barb, wis does

[zenith hare]

Read here

@velvet igloo ^

if you do all of that, ur acc should be able to reach like 30k in w4

with last mob needed ab 15k

active ES and dk is the main ways early on. dw ab it for now

can also get em via liquid trades

wizard and squire elite

then dw ab obols, all they give is a very small base stat increase

it's more a use as you get them case

[fallen crescent]

finally a bigger nugget

[tepid dune]

What armor should I be aiming for/using (only halfway through world 3)

[slim mantle]

amarok

[upbeat cargo]

don't worry about obols until you're mid w5

[zenith hare]

!gear

[candid scarab]

Gear Recommendations

[tepid dune]

!gear

[candid scarab]

Gear Recommendations

[night whale]

finally end of w4

[sleek pollen]

gz

[sleek pollen]

now another jail in from of you

[night whale]

yes, already locked in

btw is unlocking the rift important?

[sleek pollen]

yeah but you can take your time with it, I unlocked it mid w5

[night whale]

im at 4/5 batteries

[sleek pollen]

and even if you rush it you'd be stuck because you won't be able to complete some challenges

[night whale]

gotcha

should i put all my chars in jail or do the same like lab?

[dusty apex]

@tepid dune no need to use a command someone else just did for you, it doesnt change. Also use them in #bot-commands unless you are answering someones question

[echo radish]

do we think update is today or no?

[cold wraith]

good catch roro

[slim mantle]

hotair has said no

[echo radish]

💀

[cold wraith]

honestly im glad

gives me more time to try and get maxed golden ball from arcade and to get more gems

[slim mantle]

it's extremely annoying

"big update next week"
next week: oh steam sales, ha no update this week or next week
steam sales over: crickets
week later the spoilers begin, thursday: crickets
next week more spoilers, thursday: crickets

[cold wraith]

he just likes teasin us a lil

[slim mantle]

atleast take 2 minutes and just say the update isn't done yet

[cold wraith]

maybe hes a slow typer

"sorry gamers had no sleep so update isnt today"

[echo radish]

1wpm (per month)

[cold wraith]

lol

[ancient flame]

should i upgrade shiny snitch

[still meadow]

okay, how do i get enough spice this week?

[cold wraith]

gems

[still meadow]

huh?

[dusty apex]

It is what it is, i know its annoying but just enjoy the game for what it is at the moment, the update will be here eventually