midgame-chat-w3🧊w4🔮

[rain scroll]

oohh

guys is red frisbee ring used anywhere?

nope

need 10 flowers for each ee

ig gotta do 1 w1 colo

got 47 need to do 1-2 more

[fallen ridge]

one quest from the other flower if I remember correctly

ok, I can't read

[rain scroll]

did u do quests or not?

[white lintel]

only at 61 speedrun portals, getting to 75 is gonna be hard

[rain scroll]

i mean do u do quests? cuz i generally dont

[white lintel]

I do quests on one character and thats it

[fallen ridge]

not really even though I should

I do them once to get the rewards that I want and then I leave them there,
one exception is my 2nd ES which is not doing quests on purpose to not lose any possible green stackable item

[white lintel]

.1% skill eff is not worth in the slightest

to me at least

[rain scroll]

what about the trophy and the item for quests?

yay finally got lv 100 frothy malk book

[mighty aspen]

just started construction, would it be better to have my squire mining or fighting people for refinery materials like gmush while on the construction preset

[astral lava]

How the hell does my tome shows that I have found 32 trophies?

[white lintel]

like 100 boxes in the myriad crate are better than the like 1% extra I could get for doing a bunch of extra quests

then replace that with a handful of alch bubble lvls

[ionic drift]

refiller and heavyweight don't work together right?

I'm just thinking of new fun tactics to use

[rain scroll]

completing quests on all chars is troublesome

[white lintel]

whats heavyweight do?

the asnwer is that it probably works

[ionic drift]

big fist that shoots fists

[white lintel]

yes it works lol

[ionic drift]

but fist is basic attack and refiller says
"every nonbasic attack"

you have them both rn because i would love to try but...no egz

[white lintel]

ok ill test rq

[ionic drift]

thanks!!

[dusty wraith]

I went to the shrine where the Glublins are, and I've gotten Forest Souls from them 3 times, and they will not pick up into my inventory? Clicking them does nothing, and they don't auto-pickup either. I did use my shaman.
I am barely into W3.

[astral lava]

But after doing it, you get a great relief

[ionic drift]

do you have inventory space
do you have more than 1 score in tower defense
and tried leaving and re-entering map and trying again?

[rain scroll]

why is it good to do tho?

[dusty wraith]

I left and came back each time. More than 1 score? I'm not sure. I'll try that again in the morning. I did have space.

[rain scroll]

im just doing the token ones rn

[white lintel]

no worky my bad

[ionic drift]

you have to play the game with the button summon

[white lintel]

I think i thought the game considered them different bc its still rendered on high performence mode

[ionic drift]

ah too bad
yk how op that would be??
i could have more than 10 fists

[dusty wraith]

I did once, maybe that wasn't enough...

[white lintel]

its not that op

[ionic drift]

mmmmmmm.....

[white lintel]

peapod and bumbadum exist

[ionic drift]

I've unlocked that mf earlier
what does he do???

[white lintel]

which one

[ionic drift]

like ba- badudadum

[rain scroll]

also im running out of teleports ;-;

[white lintel]

read the description

[ionic drift]

faster recharge only

[white lintel]

https://tenor.com/view/credit-card-credit-card-debit-card-debit-gif-27376677

[white lintel]

no he does faster basic attack speed

[ionic drift]

is the recharge really that gud?

[ionic drift]

like bullet flight speed?

[white lintel]

no recharge, like you throw lots of basic attacks

[ionic drift]

the fists or the fancy ones?

[astral lava]

Are attacks projectiles?

[white lintel]

fists

[ionic drift]

I'm sorry if I'm annoying

[white lintel]

no youre fine

[astral lava]

Nah

[white lintel]

huh

[ionic drift]

how does that help?
they don't do much damage

[white lintel]

when you have 10 million of them every second on top of everything else it do

[ionic drift]

so that thing stacks?

[white lintel]

yea, and it doesnt have diminishing returns

or just STR

[rain scroll]

ok so all dazey quest done and sprout as well

[ionic drift]

ah so he's only useful in arena
Noted!

[white lintel]

yes

but theres better than him

[rain scroll]

i havent done stiltzcho and funguy quests yet

[ionic drift]

i was using him in pet fights

[white lintel]

liike peapod, whos prob the beest

[ionic drift]

also I've finnaly unlocked bone man!

I'm pro now!😎

[white lintel]

yea he cant ramp up fast enough in those

[white lintel]

rattler also a goat, budget peapod

[ionic drift]

peapod is only a dream to me by now...

I'm focusing on pets atm because I've noticed that my cooking is bad right now

my speed is fine
finer actually but i have no meals

[rain scroll]

hmuch is it?

[ionic drift]

and do you know what a pain it is to let go of a lab gem??

[ionic drift]

many numbers next to an M

lemme go count

[white lintel]

I bought most of my lab gems bc it would be faster to do daily bosses for gems and buy them than wait for them to rotate in

[rain scroll]

i can also pinchy that now

[astral lava]

Finally unlocked all construction board slots yesterday

[astral lava]

Arctis, what should be the directional boosts in cog board?

Exp or build rate?

[true hamlet]

br

[white lintel]

Xp

The directional xp is different than non direction xp, it’s much better

[true hamlet]

Oh i see

[astral lava]

I deleted them all

[white lintel]

And in the end you get more BR from lvls than base multi of directional cogs

[white lintel]

Get to clicking cogs then

[fallen ridge]

two days ago Ludwig said to me XP since they give multiplicative bonus

[rain scroll]

had this sample on bm since 6 months+ now im going to finally change it

[true hamlet]

Ah I see, multi is hard to beat

[white lintel]

Yikes

[rain scroll]

i mena 31k mosquisnow print better than nothing

[halcyon ermine]

where can you find like your optimal cog setup?

[white lintel]

Check pins, probably there

[dusty apex]

depends if you have 1 or 2 DK

[white lintel]

Or a goat will apear

[rain scroll]

im not that bad so i crafted him a void net xd

wow only 1/4 success

[white lintel]

These are prints for 2 different SBs that I have at the same time

[dusty apex]

everything is exp cogs and the directional ones are bonus exp as well

[white lintel]

It’s depressing

[dusty apex]

why the neglect on 1 of them

[white lintel]

It’s my last character and I get tired of reprinting

[rain scroll]

its easy to craft

after that one needs salt so need to stop there

[fallen ridge]

I get tired at the 3rd one

[rain scroll]

well im a noob

idk how i got that 1050m i guess printing 1 thing for too long and that doesnt even have a good use

[fallen ridge]

vial

[rain scroll]

that doesnt have vial

[fallen ridge]

oh u are talking about fairy...

[rain scroll]

yea

[white lintel]

Today I did a lot of reprinting, I made myself do 4 reprints and a sampling speedrun on vman. That’s all I can do

[fallen ridge]

there's a bubble, u'll get close to atom it with that many fairies

[rain scroll]

i dont atom bubble yet havent done any

kinda trash bubble too

[white lintel]

You should be atoming asap

[fallen ridge]

I said there is, not is useful

[rain scroll]

im not that good rn i believe

[white lintel]

What’s your atom production

[fallen ridge]

if I can atom larry everyday u should be able to do that too

[white lintel]

Even atoming the first few bubbles would be good

[fallen ridge]

startue exp is so good to atom and it shouldn't cost much ||someone pls tell me I'm not wrong||

[rain scroll]

idk how to check

[white lintel]

IT

[hot pecan]

In breeding, if 2 pets have the same skill (for example: refiller) is there any difference?

[rain scroll]

where in that?

[white lintel]

I did a lot of my early atommijg into startue

[hot pecan]

can I just default to highest pet power?

[white lintel]

3D printer

[rain scroll]

xD

[white lintel]

When did you last reprint

[fallen ridge]

not really, but u can use them both in arena / territory fights to have that skill doubled

[rain scroll]

oo lets go POG

[rain scroll]

i reprint like 1 week ago but not all chars and did like meh ones

and theyre all inefficient and i dont have that many hole buff yet cuz i didnt play 1 month

[white lintel]

Do you have warriors printing copper and mages printing oak logs

[fallen ridge]

REPRINT

I have 473 atoms/h

[rain scroll]

ooh

got 2 new vials today

got em all almost

[fallen ridge]

this thing decided to +1 three times today

[rain scroll]

damn

my larry is low level still

[ebon stratus]

Can I use this as a stat stick and use W4 stones on em?

[white lintel]

Trash

[fallen ridge]

click it

[rain scroll]

no

[fallen ridge]

I see green button, I click green button

[rain scroll]

11.3m kinda high ima use some cheapeners

[white lintel]

???

You have 200M

[rain scroll]

vman get cheap clicks on that bubble or no?

[white lintel]

No

[fallen ridge]

of course

[fallen ridge]

no

[rain scroll]

he doesnt

[white lintel]

https://tenor.com/view/side-eye-dog-suspicious-look-suspicious-doubt-dog-doubt-gif-23680990

[rain scroll]

i made it 11 levels higher cuz yall said but i wont do anymore rn

u see...

do i just hold spam it and dont use cheapeners?

[white lintel]

Why would you use cheapeners on that

Click the damn bubble

If you want to cheapen something cheapen carpenter

[fallen ridge]

it's total strength it's not THAT good to atom or cheapen it...

[rain scroll]

that stuff is too expensive

[white lintel]

Then cheapen power tri one

[rain scroll]

i should also do this

[white lintel]

Get it atomable

[rain scroll]

lol this is on non archer char

omg its atomable now 1st ever atomable thing

on archer

[white lintel]

Click the green bubble

[fallen ridge]

u can probably atom a lot of things when u are not in the correct class...

is it cost-efficient? no
it lets u use atom? yes

[rain scroll]

done

i dont have these uhh

rip 500m iron 😦

uhh bye bye flies

[fallen ridge]

level this one, it helps a ton with prints

[rain scroll]

did

also this but out of water uhh np bubo im coming

t2 liquids are most useless right

[white lintel]

All liquids are good

[rain scroll]

t1/t3 are hardest/most used

[fallen ridge]

*Grind time enters the room

[rain scroll]

i barely upgrade it

[white lintel]

Do you have lvl 200 tenteyecle?

[rain scroll]

its all due to nblb and such

[fallen ridge]

https://tenor.com/view/star-wars-more-gif-21856591

[rain scroll]

yes ofc since some months

[white lintel]

[white lintel]

Lvl your grind time man

[rain scroll]

sheesh i was doing sigil while bubo rip some time

[white lintel]

WHY ARE YOU DOING SIGIKS

They ain’t worth doing until you have like 100+ sigil speed

[rain scroll]

my also little low

[fallen ridge]

https://tenor.com/view/pedro-monkey-puppet-meme-awkward-gif-15268759

[rain scroll]

was just doing today a bit cuz of ballot bonus

+10 stats isnt bad for less than 1h

[white lintel]

Okay that’s not that bad, I thought you were doing them for a while

[rain scroll]

i used to hoard resource but due to yall im burning everything i had xD

[white lintel]

No point in hoarding resources

[rain scroll]

today i unlocked so many bubbles to atomable

[white lintel]

That’s what happens when you actually upgrade your alch lol

If you sit at 1050 of a resource you’ll be making barely any atoms from making more of it, best to spend them

[rain scroll]

worth it mhm

i ran out of all mats now i think

[fallen ridge]

so if I don't have 100+/h I can't do sigils...
but if I have all W6 bubbles and all cauldrons boosted what should I do? I can farm liquid with bubo anyway so no point putting chars on liquid gen...

[white lintel]

Read your last sentence again

And then go look at the liquid tab

And tell me what putting a toon on a liquid does

[rain scroll]

these r what is left

[white lintel]

Dream of iron fish, FMJ

[fallen ridge]

when I do CC it's ok to boost liquid gen since sigils don't work, I get more liquid, fine;
but when I don't CC?

[rain scroll]

i was filtering wurm mongo slice ima not filter it

[white lintel]

When you don’t CC if you have all w6 bubbles then yes you can do sigils but don’t hard push them

[fallen ridge]

I'm doing W3 onyx rn

[white lintel]

I’m sorry

[rain scroll]

i want/need to print alot of stuff

and idk how do i improve and what should i print

https://idleontoolbox.com/?profile=NebulaKnight

[white lintel]

Trialpears sample guide

[rain scroll]

can u check my profile?

[white lintel]

I can glaze over it but I can’t do an in depth write up until tomorrow, if you @ me or Dm me then I will do it tomorrow in my free time

[rain scroll]

k

just tell me in short main points

my vman and its sample sucks

[white lintel]

Get up to 10k stamp lvl

And focus on lvling like everything in alchemy

And when I say everything I mean everything

Follow Scolis reviewer for more specifics

For alch lvling

[rain scroll]

im late w5 rn it needs me to depo some statue to be lv 20 but its ez i was trying to onyx it first

[mint rivet]

👋🏿

[rain scroll]

not bad right? @white lintel

[mint rivet]

when update

[white lintel]

No not bad at all

Your liquid won’t be an issue for a while

[mint rivet]

damn i need to work on the bubo alch progress seconds gain too

[white lintel]

Follow Scolis sample based alch bubble recommendations and then reprint after focusing on them and print those resources as well

[mint rivet]

i am stuck at just above 300k

[brazen mica]

Where does the shrine applying to all levels in world bonus come from again?

[white lintel]

https://tenor.com/view/forrest-gump-wave-hello-hi-sup-gif-16159238468026206620

[white lintel]

W5

[brazen mica]

Oh

[white lintel]

No, w4

[brazen mica]

Yeah I'm in w4 I remember seeing it said somewhere

[white lintel]

It’s in lab

[brazen mica]

Just can't remember where lol

AH THAT'D BE IT

Thanks so much

[rain scroll]

will also need to get some better tools and stuff

[fallen ridge]

W4 is town counts as placed in hole world, W5 is buff is applied everywhere

[white lintel]

Do EQ for easy and good xp

That’ll let you have high tier tools

[rain scroll]

😏

what tools will u consider decent? void or need better? salt kinda an issue

[mint rivet]

def up that

[white lintel]

For you as high as is reasonable, so probably luster or dread, starfire might be a problem with pearled shells

Basically as high as you can

[rain scroll]

pearled shell are no problem

i did full 1d active there

have 300 pearler shells+

[white lintel]

Go for dreadlo then

[white lintel]

If you get salt locked then oh well, just stop there then

[rain scroll]

ill need green salt for it ill get some in 18h or less then ill see ill stop my pink/nullo salt

[mint rivet]

damn u are in the game a lot

[rain scroll]

only did it 2d ago i dont usually active much but i did and also beanstalk the food and 3 onyx statue all in 1 🙂

[mint rivet]

i didn't play idleon since last year

[rain scroll]

i also didnt play 1 month i came back 4d ago

[white lintel]

Keep a stockpile of green salts on someone

[mint rivet]

with the pocket divinity, salts are ez

[rain scroll]

its ok i dont need pink etc now

[rain scroll]

not really

but yea better than before

[mint rivet]

yes really

[white lintel]

Omniphau the goat

[mint rivet]

before the hole i had to put all chars in lab and enter omni arc

i love how doot's abilities got less p2w

[rain scroll]

rn im getting horn and sand

[white lintel]

Just wait for companions round 2

[mint rivet]

wdym round 2

[rain scroll]

im gonna make orange salt rank up

as its ok if i do so wont overcap red

[white lintel]

Second batch

[mint rivet]

of pets?

[white lintel]

Yea

[mint rivet]

so a ton of new pets?

[rain scroll]

what if we dont have ram/custard by then?

[white lintel]

It was just a joke, saying that now that doot has been nerfed the new pets would take his place

[mint rivet]

doot is as strong as before

[rain scroll]

doot saves 2 magik conjuror points

[white lintel]

Yes strong but not so much compared to non doot

And 30% all stat

[mint rivet]

i am waiting for the last gods to get buffs

[white lintel]

Wouldn’t be surprised if kruk was w7 and bagur w8

[mint rivet]

they better have insane bonuses then

[spice nest]

Hi , with the achievement soda poisonning, they say use 3 poisonning tower after lvl 5, i can make others towers or its only 3 poisonning tower all the way ?

[brisk mauve]

You can use other towers, but only 3 poison

[spice nest]

Ty 🙂

[rain scroll]

i started doing some hive and moterlode for opal

[agile oyster]

How does the Vman skill species epoch work, is it based of my vman combined trapping+worship level or of the character im placing traps/worshipping on?

[slim mantle]

Vman's

[mint rivet]

is 5% crystal chance the realistic cap on non vman?

[zenith hare]

roughly yeah

[mint rivet]

ty

[agile oyster]

Okay, so I should always be maximizing vman trapping and worship exp, and I assume the bonus still applies when placing traps on my beastmaster right?

[slim mantle]

Look at endgame chat, they showed some crystal chance screenshots recently. No 5% there

[mint rivet]

that place is scary

[slim mantle]

Basically 4.5% screenshots

[mint rivet]

how

divinity pearling since when

[slim mantle]

Pearls. Lots of pearls

[mint rivet]

1.1k is insane though

[slim mantle]

Thats just doing it since a long ass time. Before it got nerfed

[mint rivet]

seeing wilder things in #achievement-pics than in #endgame-gen-chat

[slim mantle]

Seen higher in endgame

Just quickly first example

[rain scroll]

occido today i burnt a few b of my rss stacked up on bubbles

many went into atomable range i had none before

[mint rivet]

damn 3 bil

[slim mantle]

Few b only? Xd

[slim mantle]

Seen like 8b there before

[mint rivet]

i don't believe 8b is legit

[slim mantle]

There is no reason to doubt it. It's litterally just gaming more than the 3b

And endgamers got a thing for gaming

[mint rivet]

a lot more gaming

[slim mantle]

Luck is a factor too

But some ppl spend hours gaming daily

[rain scroll]

that was my whole stockpile of rss overall tho

[slim mantle]

Now do it hourly

[rain scroll]

my prints arent good need to improve them and all

[slim mantle]

do it

[rain scroll]

idk where to start and will need better tools and all ill get better tools once i get some green salt which will be pretty soon

not that bad eh

statue is just like depo some book statues to make lv 20 but i dont have it onyx yet so i didnt depo

[slim mantle]

scroll blindly through auto review, where u end up u work cuz u need that many things still

[rain scroll]

ehh? so random picker?

[slim mantle]

it's just a way of me saying you got lots left to do

[rain scroll]

yea ik

im just getting started

i dont buy timegated items 😦

i dont like to xD

[slim mantle]

now this is what I'm talking about, dmg gains

need just a few more of those or higher :p

[rain scroll]

this is evil xD

[slim mantle]

yeah great fun

[mint rivet]

i can't do that either

[rain scroll]

how do i get better on monster mats im low on everything cuz of them vials etc

[slim mantle]

wdym better on monster mats?

[rain scroll]

gains

like more monster mats

[slim mantle]

vman print what u can, active es rest

more mk

[rain scroll]

my vman suck print 14k spore

[slim mantle]

you are doing it during speedrun after boss kills with the mk talent active right

[rain scroll]

think so

i did it quite a long time ago

[slim mantle]

"I didn't resample in a long time, why is my sample bad"

[rain scroll]

but still i didnt improve vman too

[slim mantle]

so you weren't getting any account bonusses in all this time?

[rain scroll]

i did

kinda big dmg buff etc but what can i improve more cuz vman speedrun is only 1 time a day right?

[slim mantle]

it is

more dmg for mk tiers, more mkpt, more afk gains, more mob respawn, don't forget move speed pots

[rain scroll]

what things we need to do before speedrun?

also my speedrun portal highest is like what 13,15 smthn idk

[slim mantle]

jesus

[rain scroll]

21 portal is my hiscore @slim mantle

there is also some strat i think for speedrun?

[slim mantle]

teleporting a lot

[rain scroll]

what prayers are good?

balance of pain any other?

[slim mantle]

just go through the list and read what they do

[rain scroll]

what is the guide it says start run in kruk arena?

[slim mantle]

it's just starting the speedrun with a kruk kill

[rain scroll]

normal one?

also uhh i want to know what food to use?

speed pot and?

[rain scroll]

my gear shit dont u think so? xD

[slim mantle]

....

[rain scroll]

is this good?

[slim mantle]

won't be helping speedrun

[rain scroll]

do i give him my dk divine gear? @slim mantle

[slim mantle]

ofc that's better than this

[rain scroll]

all this should be good enough

[slim mantle]

aaahhhh so close to affording it

[rain scroll]

decent?

[slim mantle]

got pendant doubler? also make sure u make divine scarf :p

[rain scroll]

bro whaaat

[rain scroll]

i dont have

underleveled vman

[astral lava]

Divine scarf is really good for afk gains

[astral lava]

+25%

[rain scroll]

i mean keychain doubler i have not pendant

[astral lava]

PREPAR THE WORLD RINGS

[rain scroll]

which is better?

[normal pike]

what is this item?

[astral lava]

Chaotic Amarok Pendant

[slim mantle]

what do you think

[rain scroll]

vman gives 10% multikill per tier and snowman gives afk gain and dmg multi

[slim mantle]

yes, so what do u think is better

[rain scroll]

snowman?

[slim mantle]

yes

[astral lava]

Test it in Gmush

Even tho it will vary

[normal pike]

ok, thx

[rain scroll]

xD non speedrun normal sample

much better than this

snowman better it give 8k more

[astral lava]

That's higher than my pocket sand sample

[rain scroll]

what do i do abt armor i have divine one but he cant wear it 😦

[slim mantle]

level ur ass up ur in w6

[astral lava]

Exactly

[rain scroll]

255 to 300 isnt that easy

[astral lava]

Vman is rarely lvling his class

[slim mantle]

300 is easy to get to

[astral lava]

See how much u get

[slim mantle]

just go crystal grind with him a bit

[normal pike]

How much accuracy do I need for chaotic Amarok?

[slim mantle]

?wiki Amarok

[cursive walrus]

https://idleon.wiki/wiki/Amarok

[astral lava]

?wiki Chaotic_Amarok

[cursive walrus]

https://idleon.wiki/wiki/Chaotic_Amarok

[rain scroll]

crystal grind i can try

island one 1 sec

[astral lava]

2025

[peak scarab]

guys what is the best elite class in your opinion? my opinion is elemantal sorcerer

[astral lava]

All are important

As if you can't make an account without having atleast 1 of everyclass

[normal pike]

thx

[slim mantle]

different classes have different uses

early game es is godlike, later he falls off

[astral lava]

True

[rain scroll]

how did i forget this ee

i had it at 0/150

lets have crystal party

[astral lava]

Equip things that boosts exp from mobs

Especially cards

[rain scroll]

i use dmg/crystal spawn/dr card

[slim mantle]

ur on crystal island, no need for crystal spawn there, and ur goal is xp so dr can be dropped for xp

[rain scroll]

ok

which cards help in xp?

efaunt was one

[slim mantle]

excuse me that one is incomplete

[rain scroll]

now better?

[slim mantle]

yes, just get crystal spawn chance back after crystal island to farm w6

[rain scroll]

ok

1 skill will wreck em all xD

enjoy xD

[slim mantle]

it's almost as if I said lvl 300 was easy to get

[rain scroll]

yea

lv 281 alrdy

[nova compass]

anyone got the non lagg setup for arena with 6 pets which uses flashy adn alchemcic?

[rain scroll]

i get 1 shot by crystal

[slim mantle]

just move back a map till ur not oneshot

[rain scroll]

baby troll seems fine

just as i said rip

but np

im almost done lv 298 rn

done

now my vman looking good 🙂

after some stones

POG

now i have to check how to do effective speedrun strat and thats it

[zenith hare]

stabby wabby

[rain scroll]

i did random stuff but got 40 portals huge! from 21

rip my teleports only 15 left

but wait bruh i forgot to sample spores

😭

start tower defense do 8 attacks its all 1

ez done

@slim mantle bro i did speedrun and got 40 portal but forgot to do sampling ;-;

but without portal even my sample 6x bigger

[slim mantle]

now you got more talent points and know how many bosses u can do for tomorrow

[rain scroll]

i was able to do 2 bosses

w1/w2

nice points 🙂

w3 i only could reach till the snake map

i also did 1 w4 map and 1 w5 map

which bonuses good for utility purpose?

[slim mantle]

what do u think xD

[rain scroll]

most useful to me looks like the str/agi/wis one

[slim mantle]

so ur other classes can't use more mkpt or dmg?

[rain scroll]

this is what i did

[slim mantle]

cuz I'd think that would be rather useful for ya

[rain scroll]

34.5% mkpt pretty cool

[slim mantle]

my skilling vman, main stats being lowest priority

[rain scroll]

i got like 7 sailing levels in 1d with help of ghampters xD (10k beanstalk) huge!

[trail stirrup]

exactly why does this statue have stats?

[cold wraith]

still small 😈

[slim mantle]

show ur own

[cold wraith]

cant my games broken

[slim mantle]

ie or it

[cold wraith]

neither work so cant share

[slim mantle]

cuz I'm totally believing you

[cold wraith]

thanks i appreciate it

[slim mantle]

just some bug, not sure how it happens, I believe it's just visual and auto fixes itself

[trail stirrup]

nooo thats so sad, was hoping i would get permanent stats when i deposit them

[cold wraith]

@slim mantle what counts as charms

are charms the ones on the last two slots of each character

[slim mantle]

ye

[cold wraith]

and what scroll is it supposedto be for first character

[astral lava]

Go see pins in w6

U'll understand everything there

[cold wraith]

grr

[astral lava]

Awww, cute cat

[storm nebula]

I haven't gotten any diamond ducks for months. I have 22 million honkers and only 21 diamond ones even when all my traps were on honkers

[slim mantle]

low shiny chance and using long time traps

[astral lava]

Silk boxes

[astral lava]

It should be that type of box

[storm nebula]

does it have to be silk specifically? I've been using wooden this entire time lol

[slim mantle]

I could get 9.5k of them in 20 min, no silk traps :p

[astral lava]

Cuz ur shiny chance is off charts

[slim mantle]

progression

[storm nebula]

I can't believe I'm only learning this now
thanks for the help lad

[slim mantle]

theres a bit more to it than just w6 :p

[astral lava]

-# alchemy

[slim mantle]

don't forget this exists for the desperate

[astral lava]

Look in Insight

[slim mantle]

cards are passive anyway which is something u can definatly do pre w6, I can't out of the top of my head even remember a bonus for it in hole, arcade is only critter gain I believe, vials

[honest reef]

no it has shiny chance

its on right now

[slim mantle]

nvm me then

[slim mantle]

I see

[astral lava]

!insight

[candid scarab]

https://idleoninsight.com/ - 3rd party site made by Corbeno

[honest reef]

why do u need shinies anyway

theyre pretty useless

[slim mantle]

oh and stamps

u forgot one :p

this prayer is great for shinies btw, well when u have the chance to back it up

it's the only way to get any slightly meaningful amount of shinies

without it ur only getting at most 1 per trap

at some point u will :p

hard depends on progression, to me they're all equally hard as in purely limited to how many I can get per trap

honestly I would be surprised if it wasn't by that point, trapping levels up slowly

and u need lvl 120 trapping to equip it

a reference point

it's just a matter of using the prayer at that point

[rain scroll]

i never use this food yet

[slim mantle]

me n'either but it's an option for the desperate :p

[dense vault]

How hard is it to get 200 greens stacks now? Just got to this point in equinox with 183

[slim mantle]

not too hard imo

[dense vault]

Did you grind all leaves ?

[rain scroll]

im at 28 i need 75

[slim mantle]

I did but I don't think I had all leaves when I hit 200

send ur ie and I can take a look at easy gstacks ur missing

[dense vault]

Sure , let me figure it out how to update it

[slim mantle]

u go to public profile and click the update button :p

[slim mantle]

-# disclaimer, easy may be taken with a grain of salt, it's just relatively speaking

[dense vault]

https://www.idleonefficiency.com/profile/upload

Like this?

[slim mantle]

no

u need to copy the link at that page

[dense vault]

Times like this I wish I had my pc back

[slim mantle]

at any time I'd wish I had my pc lol

[cold wraith]

do these stats really justify maxing it

[rain scroll]

https://nebulaknight.idleonefficiency.com/ like this

[slim mantle]

got anything else to dump ur boxes into? :p

[cold wraith]

you\

[rain scroll]

well tell me also easy gstacks but u know i have too many easy ones rn cuz i have only 28

[slim mantle]

sure dump em into me, I'll dump them into my myriad crate

[cold wraith]

how many do you have in myriad

[slim mantle]

don't mind me having like 10k unspent on this character

in fact let me fix that

[cold wraith]

good

[cold wraith]

lowk mid stats

[dense vault]

https://apoloiv.idleonefficiency.com/

Sorry took a while

[slim mantle]

well I mean right now u rlly don't need me to get started, so many ores, logs, fish, bugs, monster drops etc

[dense vault]

I know about the equinox fish green stack, just waiting for a reprint to regain it

[cinder needle]

this one seems like such a “i’m overflowing in pens and have nothing else to do with them” box

[cold wraith]

yes it is

[slim mantle]

u can definatly greenstack atleast the majority of the bars with the hole bonus, made it pretty easy
leaves can be done too, some are close, w6 souls, 2 anvil items, (bone meal thingy btw farm it with sb with flag up, it can give a lot), hotdogs and if u farm enough of those then peanuts aswell, kebabs, several potions, some more quest items if u didn't complete it with all chars yet

[ancient flame]

dropped a 72hour time candy on gmush spores for vman quest and realized i had the 10hour prayer on

[slim mantle]

what did we learn today? never use that prayer :p

[ancient flame]

now i feel stupid

[slim mantle]

a lot of us have been there

and the prayer only gives additive gains anyway so

[dense vault]

Holy never thought about using SB to farm bone meal

[cold wraith]

nuy bien

[tender ocean]

just print it

[cold wraith]

different game bud

[slim mantle]

ok endgamer :p

[dense vault]

Hotdogs will take a hot minute to green stack , still need 100k gold peanuts

[slim mantle]

also euhm, sort of? atom collider turns pens into boxes, no effort on our part :p wish it converted them faster tho, I do have plenty of pens to max it in an instant if I could just convert them

I may be slightly biased to the hotdogs :p

[dense vault]

God damn

Too adhd to focus on one thing , I switch between SB flag farming and ES mat farming

[slim mantle]

well I rarely touch es these days, sb I wanna keep forgetting exists, still need over 400k plunderous for achievement

anyway I think I gave u enough pointers to pick and chose a bit from to reach ur 200 relatively quickly

I totally do not need to take my own advice btw

[dense vault]

Yep got some good ones

[rain scroll]

yep..

[rain scroll]

which 1 did u miss?

[slim mantle]

dog bones when doing amarok key quest

I rushed that shit on every character upon creation

[dense vault]

I miss that too

Gotta wait for 11th char

[slim mantle]

yup

alright gstack grind has begun

[rain scroll]

i havent missed any

[slim mantle]

did u gstack dog bones or you just didn't get all key quests done

well I got my answer

[rain scroll]

hmm?

[slim mantle]

hmm what

[rain scroll]

were u saying to me or apollo

[slim mantle]

you

[rain scroll]

oo

some opals 🙂

that was only 1 opal 2nd is 200 away

[slim mantle]

get more ping rate

[rain scroll]

its kinda good before i had 200 or smthn

only today it became 1928/h

hole is slowly improving

[slim mantle]

me looking at billions requirement

hey look at this, my es found a purpose again, this quest item grind :p

[rain scroll]

why this show less?

in game it shows 128k/h

[slim mantle]

not everything is properly implemented yet

funny thing is, mine shows MORE than I am getting

[rain scroll]

oo

real

how many opals do u u have total and did u spend any gems?

[slim mantle]

152 and yes I spent gems, didn't buy all opals yet tho

[brisk mauve]

You got 30 more opals than me

Haven't bought any from the gem shop yet though

[slim mantle]

I'm a solid 20 opals behind endgamers tho

[rain scroll]

omagad so many

btw i didnt gem farm since 2 days

[slim mantle]

https://tenor.com/view/slap-online-internet-computer-gif-8180219

[rain scroll]

noice!

[slim mantle]

meanwhile I'm trying to get lvl 15

where caverns 11-15 update lava god damn it

[trail magnet]

What's the best arena setup for 4 pets to do 115 for cloud?

[zenith hare]

peapod, refiller, looter, borger

[trail magnet]

and how much xk should they have

20-30k?

[zenith hare]

10k works afaia

but bigger the better

[trail magnet]

oki thank u

[heady panther]

what is the latest TD layouts?

[rain scroll]

+2

[modern gate]

is the beneficial to max out the printer star talent

[wise briar]

what should be my eighth character
i have one of each + a maestro

[rain scroll]

dk

[wise briar]

ty

[modern gate]

pro printer

[verbal crow]

Hey guys, can anybody tell me what the upgrading the genetic multiplier in pet breeding actually does? Can't find it on the wiki or anything

[woeful karma]

Any advice on getting 400 kills in a single Killroy run?
What class/subclass would be best to use?
Or should I try to roid out a warrior(barb) to have very very high speed due to its natural multitarget attacks?

[woeful karma]

I'm assuming yoy don't have MK yet?

[proud marten]

whats the best pet setup for spirit fields battle?

[astral lava]

did u unlock peapeapod?

[proud marten]

yes

[astral lava]

then use peapod, rattler, looter, shield, refiller, refiller

[rain scroll]

how r u bro

[smoky void]

i used peapod, looter, refil, refil, mono, shield

[astral lava]

fineeee

[rain scroll]

i have 60 opals now 🙂

[astral lava]

then this works fine too

[rain scroll]

62 maybe idk

[astral lava]

lemme check mine

[smoky void]

soi doe mono swap to thrasher

[astral lava]

I dont like trasher

fun fact

I didnt mean it I swea-

[proud marten]

can i use auto?

[smoky void]

he gets rid of axes trhough

[astral lava]

no

[astral lava]

but wont refill again if u dont use all 5 points

[rain scroll]

do u have justice 10?

[astral lava]

what 10?

its called justice

[rain scroll]

i mean the cavern 10 justice

[astral lava]

other one is called bravery

by only saying justice, I know u are talking abt cavern 10

TLDR: yes, I got it

[rain scroll]

ye i forgot and said both at same time

so do u have that? @astral lava

[astral lava]

yes

[smoky void]

it stacks if you get enough refils and spam

[astral lava]

still dont like it

tried it before

[smoky void]

i mean it worked for the end battle :/

[rain scroll]

i dont have justice yet

6d almost to get it

[smoky void]

so close

[astral lava]

btw I broke 30T dmg mark with my SB ;>

next time u see me, I would have already got 50T

[rain scroll]

how r u getting dmg so fast?

[slim mantle]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1254924120597069945/1266451010537394246/c8XedX0.png?ex=678356aa&is=6782052a&hm=75ae177203d6d297224bab4d5d43bd074b625a0ca17c79f478943684d3fa908d&

Fast af setup

[astral lava]

progressin' boi

oh, and cuz I started to take care of Alchemy

[mighty aspen]

ah im still kinda confused on which chars i should be using to sample combat

i do have barb on kill per kill

[slim mantle]

In w3 u just put everybody on refinery upkeep so it starts with copper (warriors job) and gmush

[astral lava]

he is still w3

[slim mantle]

W4 wizards elite class makes it so u can stop printing monster mats alltogether

[mighty aspen]

no im about to get my 6th char. my squire is super low so i can get like 30 free account levels from him

[mighty aspen]

6th char wizard btw

[mighty aspen]

ah useful

[slim mantle]

It is cuz that elite class can do the days worth of refinery upkeep in a few min np compared to the printing xd so then u just print the stuff each class is good at

[mighty aspen]

this one i assume

[slim mantle]

So squires mining barbarian fishing mages chopping and archers catching

[mighty aspen]

yup yup yup also is bowman specifically catching

i dont think i should catch on hunter no?

[slim mantle]

Bowman is extra good at catching but hunter is still a catcher

[mighty aspen]

ah can i sample other things like smithing

[slim mantle]

No

Only the 4 basics I just said + basic monster drop

[mighty aspen]

ok so ill use hunter for combat for now. and then put him at catching once at elite calsss

[kindred talon]

I just unlocked w3

[kindred talon]

How does all the new mechanics work

[slim mantle]

U likely need multiple to print monster mats until u reach the elites at w4

[mighty aspen]

cant i just put a dk print on copper instead of copper from barb?

[oblique rampart]

Yea you need more secret stat for that it gives you %smithing sample

[mighty aspen]

ya fair i dont need fish too bad so i could put barb on combat sample

[slim mantle]

Bm has litterally nothing on vman or just 1 es portal... that is wasting ur print slots

[lean perch]

Then what is BM good for printing

[shut terrace]

catching stuff

[hexed shoal]

Meh or meh bubonic build?

[hexed shoal]

Monster parts

[lean perch]

Despite its lack of extra efficiency?

[shut terrace]

yes

especially early on

[hexed shoal]

The 2 siege will carry catching prints

[lean perch]

alright

[shut terrace]

well yes but

vman will also carry mob drops

tho you could also use bm for print mats

[hexed shoal]

Bro you cant say no to better refinery shi

[shut terrace]

early on that is

[hexed shoal]

Also you can only print two things per char so vman only can print 2 things

[lean perch]

I'm at start of W5 with 8 characters is that early on lol

[hexed shoal]

So vman and bm can print 4

[hexed shoal]

You didnt even start the game brother

W6 is where the game starts

[lean perch]

yeah Ik all the content is later and w6

[hexed shoal]

Mid game is like w9

[lean perch]

The w5 boss is like 1250x stronger then troll too

[lean perch]

Real

[hexed shoal]

Kruk?

[lean perch]

Yes

[hexed shoal]

Kruk is just a damage test

[lean perch]

100B health

[hexed shoal]

Here is a tipsy

Target the moles and let the aoe dmg kruk

[lean perch]

Aoe?

From what character

I used BB to get through W4 cause he had nothing better to do and better defense cause of multiplier bubble and high health

I think it's at 41k so it's not THAT high but it is for me rn

[slim mantle]

It has extra efficiency. Less than sb but more than all the other classes because its an archer, first tab efficiency talent affects it. Its about half of a sb worth which is infinitely more useful than some tiny monster mat print

[lean perch]

So void will have to juggle the 6 prints then?

For refinery

[slim mantle]

I mean 1 print cycle takes care of weeks of refinery so thats no problem at all

[lean perch]

Ah gotcha

I'm a bit behind on spore req/h rn but it's not a problem causes he's afking it for the quest

[slim mantle]

And active es in early game quickly produces plenty aswell

[lean perch]

oh I only actived for event

it sucked activing without auto loot

[slim mantle]

Few min active es gives more monster mats than full day of bm print. With ease

[lean perch]

alr

[slim mantle]

Well yeah we kinda considder auto loot the base price of the game

[lean perch]

Is BM like one of the worst now or somethin lol

[lean perch]

Yeah I've noticed

[slim mantle]

Bm has its uses but yeah generally only bb is a worse class xd

[lean perch]

I've been potentially life long injured from my job so I can't afford anything I just indirectly won a giveaway lol

[hexed shoal]

Es

Best aoe char in the game

[lean perch]

Even wizard alone is p good

[hexed shoal]

Bubo/dk could work if you dont know how to build es

Or if you dont have enough dmg

[lean perch]

Build? I just put all of the talents on at once is that not how it's done lol

[hexed shoal]

You put in paperwork?

[slim mantle]

Depends on what ur doing, following message it seems subject was kruk? Definatly not bubo for that lmfao

[hexed shoal]

The 5th talent

[lean perch]

huh

[hexed shoal]

Wizard tab

[lean perch]

Idk the names

[hexed shoal]

Its the main damage source of es

Well there are more sources but yeah its big

[slim mantle]

Thats also not the 5th talent but 6th xd

[lean perch]

Yeah I have the talent guide from ages ago

[hexed shoal]

Ah fk

[lean perch]

Failed successfully

[hexed shoal]

From IT?

[lean perch]

Idk who keilen gave it to me some months ago

Let me find it

[hexed shoal]

IT guides pretty good

[hexed shoal]

Btw lethalizer what is your es dmg?

For kruk you need 35m

[lean perch]

Only 35m??

[hexed shoal]

Yep

[slim mantle]

(Thats max on info sheet) also es it's 30m for comfortably

[lean perch]

I have it doing divinity rn

[hexed shoal]

You got goat god?

[lean perch]

35m max right?

[hexed shoal]

Yep

[lean perch]

no I just started

like 13h ago

[hexed shoal]

You got arctis?

[lean perch]

I haven't even claimed yet lmao

[hexed shoal]

Your missing out on 2x kill god) =

[lean perch]

How far is it

[hexed shoal]

3rd god

[lean perch]

ok

[hexed shoal]

Arctis is 2nd god

Everyone counts active in lab if they link to arcti

[lean perch]

I'll check it's damage rq it's not High at all maybe a few mil

[slim mantle]

Also make sure to progress a bit in thz hole for pocket divinity so u can link to more gods

[hexed shoal]

Picket divinity is basically free arctis

Wait fk

[slim mantle]

Anyway, afk. Be careful with kebabs tips, they tend to stray a bit of the facts

[hexed shoal]

I meant free doot

[hexed shoal]

Hehehehe~

[lean perch]

4.41M

[hexed shoal]

On your es?

[lean perch]

Yes

Max

[hexed shoal]

Do you mean 44.1m or 4m?

[lean perch]

4.41M

[hexed shoal]

Ah rip

Bro the wi fi sucks it take 10 seconds to load a msg

[astral lava]

sup @hexed shoal

[lean perch]

I don't have void weapon yet and I want to use w5 stone on it

[hexed shoal]

Sup display

[lean perch]

So I'm saving my money to go purely into that

[hexed shoal]

Bro i didnt use void weapon lmao

[lean perch]

Blackhole?

[hexed shoal]

All you need is ice weapon

[lean perch]

where do I get 9x more damage then lol

[hexed shoal]

Bro these things are as cheap as a piece of gum

[astral lava]

for u, not for new players to it

[lean perch]

not for me I only had BB push beyond elite classes

[astral lava]

w5 stones?, you pushed so fast that you neglected your refinery and traping and other stuff in early worlds

[hexed shoal]

I had voids at the start of w5

[lean perch]

I'm at Sacrabs rn, it took me months to realize I could change trap to get shinies

[hexed shoal]

Not to mention him

[lean perch]

I'm still waiting on red salt for rank I think 9

30k req I think it was

manually placing traps daily when I never had too was such a pain

Shoulda never got jman as 4th character

[lean perch]

||meel?||

Idk if I said that right

[white lintel]

Perpetually

[hexed shoal]

By him i mean alchemy

[lean perch]

Oh lmao

[hexed shoal]

Alchemy made w6 possible

[lean perch]

yeah my highest bubble is probably level 50 something FMJ

[hexed shoal]

Focus on mainstat and dmg% bubbles

[cold wraith]

hell yea

[hexed shoal]

Your damage will not help with kruk

[modern gate]

WOAH I WAAS ALMOST ABOUT TO CLICK FISHEROO RESET

[hexed shoal]

The fuck is that quickness realling multi

[lean perch]

I have 3 characters (bubo, BM, and uh bowman can't think of other name in lab)

[hexed shoal]

Get that shit up

[modern gate]

Im trying 😭

[hexed shoal]

Take them out lab and put them in divinity

You dont wanna put anyone in lab until 5th god

[lean perch]

I didn't even consider putting multiple in divinity

[hexed shoal]

https://tenor.com/view/thats-why-hes-the-goat-the-goat-bigfellerjake-skippe-space-i-think-gif-26908844

[hexed shoal]

Divinity gibs bonuses. And you certianly need those

[zenith hare]

murder

[hexed shoal]

Meme is my bubo meh or meh?

Good build?

[zenith hare]

tentieye not 200 = bad bubo

[hexed shoal]

Ignore that for now still no 200 books

Is tab 4 good?

[zenith hare]

should be in w5 tbh

to get class levels

you can't afford troll armour really rn anyways

[hexed shoal]

Ik im not even at anvil tab 4 lmao

Just wanna kick trolls ass

[modern gate]

chat whats the best keychain bonus

[zenith hare]

depends

[frank gull]

Drop rate, afk,

[modern gate]

ah, noted

Best I got was multikill

[frank gull]

Sometimes multi kills

[modern gate]

Keychains are contribution dependant, right?

[zenith hare]

normally stat%, afk%, Dr, mob respawn

multi kill is never the option.

[zenith hare]

no it's completely random

[astral lava]

what a naughty bubo for not having tent. eye 200

[hexed shoal]

Depends on what you do

Drop rate keychain for farming drops

Card rate for farming cards

[frank gull]

Last resample. W6 released

[hexed shoal]

Afk gains chain for afk

[modern gate]

The storage chest be screaming for help

[zenith hare]

players are a storage chest

[hexed shoal]

Kepp in inventory

[zenith hare]

players should be used to carry unstackables

[hexed shoal]

Bro spittin fax

[modern gate]

not a problem in the endgame im assuming cuz you get hella stack space

[hexed shoal]

My bb has a inventory full of cooking clogs lmao

[hexed shoal]

Eh nothing to do with late game

Just saving storage space for important mats

[zenith hare]

eh

[hexed shoal]

The important mats are stackables

[hexed shoal]

Same ass reaction lmao🤣

[modern gate]

I CANT

[zenith hare]

also the fact I have a full chest tab of storage spare with every single chest upgrade (minus chest one from event)

[modern gate]

GET A TIER 5 OR 6 SHINY FISH

HELP

[zenith hare]

they're rare, just spam the odds

[modern gate]

got spare gems any1?

[hexed shoal]

Easy shit

Gamble 1k arcade balls and weekly giant mobs and weekly mini bosses and 300 daily bosses that shit

[zenith hare]

they're early w3

do NOT buy arcade balls with gems

[hexed shoal]

Damn. Everyone i see here is w6 xD

[zenith hare]

do weekly giants as best as you can

[modern gate]

Ye im getting there

[zenith hare]

no sane minded person in w4 doesn't have crystal printer

that's a giveaway there

[hexed shoal]

I have it

[zenith hare]

precisely

[hexed shoal]

Im in w6

[modern gate]

does total drop rate affect mining

[zenith hare]

also my phone is gonna die

[pastel knoll]

Why are some books not available?

[hexed shoal]

Nope

[zenith hare]

not the ore

[hexed shoal]

Only the other drops like the pots and statues

[zenith hare]

because other talents upgrade those books

[modern gate]

still worth getting then

I was stack em pow obols 🤑

[hexed shoal]

Yeah. When you lose your sanity come back

Pop obols are only farmed with ES nothing else

Not even wizard or hunter

[hard scroll]

Just realised my prints for early world 4 are THE WORST THING anyone has seen.

[cold wraith]

you are so smart

[cold wraith]

they lowk stay bad until later

[modern gate]

SHUT! my orion/poppy afk slave- I mean Trapper is maxxing out the feathers!

[hexed shoal]

How long have you been there?

[modern gate]

Not for long

[cold wraith]

you can visit orion/poppy using teleports you dont have to afk there

[modern gate]

Okay.

[modern gate]

Thing is I ran out of teleports

[hard scroll]

printing 14 ice cubes /hr

[cold wraith]

fair ig

[cold wraith]

why print ice cubes 💀

[hard scroll]

wepons

[cold wraith]

hm

[hexed shoal]

Dont touch the game for a while then

[cold wraith]

its better to just afk there or active depending on your progression

typically people do refinery materials on bm and other mob prints on vman

[hexed shoal]

Also buy 1 ONLY 1 daily tp's it gives more daily tp cap

[cold wraith]

i bought 5

[hexed shoal]

Yeah he only needs 1 early game

[cold wraith]

i mean i bought 3

[hexed shoal]

And dude the fuck is you doin with 1k tp's

[cold wraith]

only time i really go through them is when im doing quests on characters or resampling

but at most i use 200-300

[hexed shoal]

Damn i only use like 20-30ish

I barely tp

[cold wraith]

recently yea i barely tp

js log on and claim then get off but i need to resample soon

[hexed shoal]

I hadnt resampled in a while