midgame-chat-w3🧊w4🔮

[slim mantle]

meh would rather sit in lab and push in w4

[indigo stratus]

would you need at least level 200 for any bonus?

[slim mantle]

meal level? try a couple hundred more for it to become worthwhile

[indigo stratus]

is the formula wrong?

[slim mantle]

no

[indigo stratus]

when i put in level 100 for the skill it tells me +0.656% multiplicative meal cooking spd

[slim mantle]

yes, I said meal level, you need a lot of meal levels for this talent to become good

[indigo stratus]

which doesn't make sense because if x is to the exponent of y where x is less than 1 then assuming you have like 100 meal levels for example then it'd be 0.0000...1

[indigo stratus]

im talking about the skill level

[slim mantle]

for example lvl 100 talent with 500 meal levels is a 26% speed gain

[grim grotto]

if u want the achievement hurry cuz we got 4

[deep wigeon]

for some reason i cant type signs lik / and ? in game..

[indigo stratus]

lvl 100 talent is 0.656 ^ (meal levels)

[latent bramble]

%

[tender ocean]

it is 0.6% which is 0.006

[slim mantle]

the math as displayed in my screenshot is correct

[indigo stratus]

shit mb

just realized it % 😔

[slim mantle]

now lets double the meal levels and see how the talent start to pay off

double it again

[latent bramble]

How much at 650?

[astral lava]

70.11066664

[astral lava]

Sup btw

[torpid acorn]

i should be using my pet eggs as i get them right? no need to save them for a quest?

[candid nebula]

How do I have 84 atoms despite not even having the collider unlocked? Is it just when you go over the cap for storage it automatically makes atoms or?

Construction menu and hole for proof

[astral lava]

Prob a glitch

The thing u said is wrong, not just by going above the cap

[astral lava]

Well, I usually save my eggs (I get them easily from Mutated mush anyway) cuz I constantly have to breed different type of pets

[torpid acorn]

ok, been tryna get cakey so i assume i should be using them now

[astral lava]

Use them when u need to

[torpid acorn]

but idk if i should have a lad get green spirals first so i can make the chance higher

[astral lava]

Buy it, it's cheap

Iirc

[torpid acorn]

buy it? im talking about the thing you get from splicing

[astral lava]

Ye, you get these splices by equipping a gun-like tool, which can be bought from w4 shop

Otherwise u already bought it

[torpid acorn]

oh ic yeah i already did that

ive already used my spirals though so i need more

[pure helm]

Atoms exist to deal with overflow issues phones have. So even if you dont have it anything over 1050M will be turned into atoms.

[candid nebula]

Ah

[high lake]

can i defeat nightmare chizoar with my ES with only chizoar armor and 1.9 k defence without dying?

[uneven obsidian]

its chiz as long as you dodge and got the accuracy, should be fine. he does have 2b hp tho

[high lake]

that aint a problem i do 1000m avr crit

but im worried he one shots me

[astral lava]

?wiki Blighted_Chizoar

[cursive walrus]

https://idleon.wiki/wiki/Blighted_Chizoar

[astral lava]

That's 100% hit chance

[indigo stratus]

what is per 10 kitchen levels?

[astral lava]

U are fine

[uneven obsidian]

he might 1 shot you, but that mean you failed to dodge the obvious tells for his incoming ability

[astral lava]

Kitchen table upgrades, e.g. cooking speed, fire speed, luck

[indigo stratus]

in increments of 10? like level 10 fire and level 20 luck = +15%
or just total # of upgrades /10 like level 9 fire and level 21 luck = +15%

[astral lava]

Try and tell me

[indigo stratus]

too lazy

[astral lava]

It's total

[torpid acorn]

is best wave of 10 in frosty firefight a bad wave for late W4?

im struggling to get the frigid souls but my best wave is super ass

[high lake]

i had the same problem i couldnt even build the w4 anvil thing till i got to w5

[torpid acorn]

wave guide for 40 needs towers to be close to double what i have now

ima try besting what i have nonetheless

[high lake]

do you have the eye guy

[torpid acorn]

yeah

[high lake]

at what lvl do you have party guy and the rock thrower

[torpid acorn]

3 and 12 respectively

[high lake]

thats too low

[torpid acorn]

oh yeah baby

im following the guide

[high lake]

i have lvl 10 and 30 and i luckely got wave 40

[torpid acorn]

guess ill suffer for a bit, i got curb stomped just now cuz i forgot to use my BM abilities

[pure helm]

About 2/3 of the way down the pins here there is a low lvl TD guide.

better towers and playing on a hunter will also help.

[astral lava]

What is the best class for killing minibosses?

[high lake]

maestro for DR

[pure helm]

DK with a stacked orb.

[astral lava]

Shouldn't it be ES cuz of normal drop rate table?

[pure helm]

Vman can work for mini boss that dont have mobs with them like doot.

[pure helm]

Portal does nothing for mini boss.

[astral lava]

WHYYYYY

[pure helm]

Normal mobs are just normal for ES all his drops are from portal mobs.

[torpid acorn]

are crystals the best way for power statues? just unlocked onyx quest but theres no way i can get that many with my current crystal spawn chance

[indigo stratus]

ty

[pure helm]

Statue farming is a W6 thing. You need at least 8X DR and choco chip. And ya crystals are WAY BETTER. Statue farming in W3 is the slowest because crystals dont drop all of them.

When you are ready DK at beans is best for power and other W1 statues.

[ripe arrow]

I dont see a pin for it, whats the ideal team for pushing spices?

[deep wigeon]

how do i get more infinite star signs?

[fossil hatch]

Shiny pets in breeding

[deep wigeon]

if i equip a infinite star sign to i get 2x the effect or is it no point?

[fossil hatch]

If you go to rift and click on the infinite star sign rift you’ll see

[fossil hatch]

No cons at all

[slim mantle]

!guide the spreadsheet has teams

[fossil hatch]

Occido is about to answer your question I

[candid scarab]

Mid-Late Game guide for World 3 / 4 / 5:
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/e/2PACX-1vSCepYAs6sNDP4iq6MJNAG1pvFXzfC_3IQ7ttt5vfEEKAgQhIk4cQqnLRyeH6UyqDSuP4R-6WQeDmmP/pubhtml
Video Guides (by GriffyBit):
https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLVGSDQs1AcvjYTAPtYV6ofbeeEfHpEcb4

[fossil hatch]

I have have to go thanks oc

[deep wigeon]

i see stoped reading it 2 sentences to early

[slim mantle]

U get 2x if u have the starsign doubler chip active, else not

[deep wigeon]

ok so need chip, but never need to equip the infinite ones again then?

[slim mantle]

The chip only doubles those u have active urself, just to be clear

[deep wigeon]

ok

[ripe arrow]

The spreadsheet doesnt mention the peashooter pet, which I was under the impression was used for pushing the final spices

[slim mantle]

Peapod is not required to do them but if u have it yes it's great and I can give u a team for it

[ripe arrow]

Would u mind plz?

[slim mantle]

Peapod (peapod again if u have the 2nd, rattler if u don't) looter looter trasher refiller. U need to actively spam click enemy attacks to delete them but the fight is fast

[ripe arrow]

thanks

[slim mantle]

At 40k power final battle took me 2 or 3 mins with it

[rocky jacinth]

Where do i get the gold twine? For troll armour?

[slim mantle]

Check the cards, I believe its flombeiges

[astral lava]

These jelly things, before the last map of w4

[astral lava]

It is

[rocky jacinth]

Ahh i see thank you

[astral lava]

Thank you

Returning the thanks

[slim mantle]

Damn. A lot of thanls going around

[torpid acorn]

wait so i wait till W6? quest says to do it "ASAP"

[faint willow]

is there a way to check death note without going to w3?

[slim mantle]

Quest was also made when w4 was new. Cyfer is right

[slim mantle]

The toolsites

[faint willow]

you mean IE?

[torpid acorn]

👍

[slim mantle]

Ie and it

[faint willow]

whats IT

[slim mantle]

!it

[candid scarab]

https://idleontoolbox.com/ - Unofficial 3rd party site made by Morojo

[faint willow]

does it work for steam?

[slim mantle]

U mean for an account made with the new steam login feature? No

[faint willow]

sadge

[pure helm]

You can start whenever you want but your progress is going to be really slow until you get the requirements I mentioned and more DR cant hurt.

[slim mantle]

Ur completely locked to just playing the game on steam until lava decides to make it available outside of it

[faint willow]

how new is the steam login?

[torpid acorn]

man if i had a nickel for every feature thats not worth it to grind the hell out of till W6 i wouldnt be having money problems rn

[faint willow]

i started playing 3 weeks ago and just went with steam}

[slim mantle]

Released with the hole update. I wanna say in the 7-8 weeks range?

[slim mantle]

There are reasons the meta is rushing to w6. If ur not in w6 ur entire focus should be getting to w6

[pure helm]

Heh rush to W6 is a good strat, that said most things in this game are easier than statue farming atm.

[torpid acorn]

should i be fixing up my ES to prepare to push for W6? im using DK rn but ive heard i should be pushing W5 with ES so im wondering if i should be working on him now at all

i have the stamp upgrade in lab so idk if its worth taking some of them out yet

[slim mantle]

Dk works. Es is just better at it. Just must be one of those 2

[pure helm]

Most rush accounts will not have the 50-80M needed for other class.

[slim mantle]

Cyfer u take care of them, I'mma enjoy me some chips

[pure helm]

Heh I guess I can.

[faint willow]

what level you end up around by w5 boss?

[torpid acorn]

really? cuz my rates in jellyfish are set to me going past the portal in four days

seems like a long time

[slim mantle]

Gues I can answer this last one before I leave xd my es was lvl 180 when I beat w5 boss

[torpid acorn]

godamn my DK is 175 now im doin well

[faint willow]

guess ill keep pushing once i finish preparatios so my refinery can keep going

[pure helm]

Ya my account is older that Occidos so idk the pure rush to W6.

[faint willow]

do i need tab 4 equipment for w5?

[pure helm]

Need? No but the weapons are nice.

[high lake]

i didnt but i cant kill kraklekutt without troll armor and the weapons bc of the reheal moles

[pure helm]

There is a bump in skilling power too.

[pure helm]

Did you see the chart? ES and DK have a much better time.

[high lake]

i play with ES lvl 300 and chizoar armor and the green stick from tab 4 and only do 33m damage on crit with my yellow lightning i luckily do 1b damage but too much hp for me yet

[pure helm]

.

[faint willow]

scales for troll armor seem annoying to get with 1 pusher, how long does that take?

[pure helm]

Its the salt that normally takes the longest.

[faint willow]

are those the last salts of refinery?

i should probably take it a bit slower this week, missing many bonuses from previous worlds + refinery

[torpid acorn]

just noticed i havnt unlocked equinox should i have done that by now?

[high lake]

what am i doing wrong than?

[last grotto]

you also get to the point where you can kill with no challenges

[faint willow]

wdym, challenges?

[last grotto]

when the troll makes you do the things to let you damage him

[faint willow]

oh

like the shielding until kill thingies in w3 boss

[last grotto]

no the w4 boss

[pure helm]

well 30M is the minimum its not necessarily going to be easy. You can get some boss dam from a star sign and book the AoE skills especially the lighting one. You may need to move skills around on your bar too.

[slim mantle]

Thats not a gear issue, thats an everything else issue

[astral hearth]

what combo pets should i use for unlocking spices?

[torpid acorn]

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/u/0/d/193tGCv_nJpgleOzQ2jkO9KEpSh8JcOZLdjDolD9Z0FI/htmlview?pli=1#

[high lake]

whats the recommendet skill adjustment

[torpid acorn]

theres a guide for pets in there ^

[astral hearth]

ty

[last grotto]

its also a good general resource

[torpid acorn]

fr

[last grotto]

i dont think i would do worship without it lol

[torpid acorn]

is there anywhere i can go for talent guides though? ive just been loosely using IT's presets but they dont seem to be that optimised

[slim mantle]

Its good for early game worship. Later u will use much more advanced guides

[pure helm]

Or just learn.

[fossil kayak]

Anyone want to run HH?

Limeedle 6 W1

[last grotto]

do you carry or me

[fossil kayak]

I carry

[last grotto]

ill come

[cold wraith]

ill come

if i havent done hh this week

i havent

[faint willow]

when claiming with drone, does it take hunter's shiny chance or does it use their individual chance for each character

[pure helm]

shiny chance is calculated on pick up so the character picking up.

[faint willow]

so the cards the hunter is holding when claiming count towards everyone?

thats nice

shiny froge farming will be easy later then

[pure helm]

Critters and XP are on placement, thats why you place with either BM or Vman.

[faint willow]

rn working on the skilling to get maestro

[pure helm]

Sadly they are caped per trap so you never really get alot. You use 20 min traps and the prayer. But I never bothered with the vial.

[slim mantle]

Basically can get 80x117? 118? Something like that every 20 min

[woeful karma]

do yall think its possible to get death note unlocked within 4 or so hours of being in W3 if you have stable foundation?

[pure helm]

Not enough to get the billion or so needed for a vial.

[faint willow]

im doing 20 min so, should be easy enough, once i get lvl 35 in everyone for 5 traps per char ill get 40 shinys every 20 min

[woeful karma]

also ello cyfer

[faint willow]

i want at least a few levels

[pure helm]

You would need cash upgrades probably.

[woeful karma]

the day grows near
its gonna be the 8th i think

[woeful karma]

how many void coins do i need?

[pure helm]

Oh ho.

[slim mantle]

He means gems

[woeful karma]

?

[pure helm]

No no like gem shop stuff you need construction lvls and speed to build it.

[woeful karma]

ah

damn

i planned ot use my gems on printer and printer slots

[pure helm]

Construction is naturally slow but you have a high lvl squire already ya.

[limpid dragon]

any reason you are rushing? why do you need it in the first 4 hours

[slim mantle]

Printer slots aren't as high of a priority

[woeful karma]

this good enough?

[woeful karma]

i want to try to get it done before i have to leave for several hours lol

[woeful karma]

(currently on combat build)

[faint willow]

you have that on w2?

[woeful karma]

very late W2

[limpid dragon]

[torpid acorn]

bro get your elite class wtf

[woeful karma]

i cant im in W2 lmao

[woeful karma]

going to be in W3 shortly

[slim mantle]

This guy is taking it extremely slow. You won't find a more advanced player at the same world progression

[limpid dragon]

[woeful karma]

sorry my finger typed 4 instead of 2

[limpid dragon]

mfw im w6

[woeful karma]

also i have made my archer
oh boy is he strong

i still have 2 players left

wait no
1

the lv 1500 is left

[limpid dragon]

[pure helm]

So you only need 303 construction or whatever (normally just called build rate) to get the first lvl of the first 3 things.

[woeful karma]

i see

[pure helm]

I thought it was higher tbh.

[woeful karma]

i should probs respec his skilling build to be torwards W3 skills

[slim mantle]

This just shows cards being leveled, many of which are useless and w3 is unlocked

[woeful karma]

i came before technolog lol

[faint willow]

i think his account was like 2 years but afked a lot of time, i wonder who is more advanced of the 2

[faint willow]

oh

how long does that account have?

[woeful karma]

3+ years

over half i knew about jack shit about what i was doing lol

then i cleaned it up and went into the spiral that ive now come into

[faint willow]

what a strong commitment

[cold wraith]

might want to lvl your characters to 250 in w6 to finish the eq dream

[limpid dragon]

im goin through the IEautoreview tab by tab, ill get there at some point

[woeful karma]

bro
your levels
bro
why are all of them but 2 under 120

[slim mantle]

Im telling ya, its this guy xd

[torpid acorn]

real. ive had mine for a little under 3

[limpid dragon]

i have been playing for 2 weeks

[slim mantle]

That is in fact pretty normal

[faint willow]

now i know, he just told haha, incredible

[woeful karma]

fair
but counterpoint

XDD

2 weeks for htat is pretty good

it took me a long while for this

[limpid dragon]

shrug

id say its not bad for the time spent

[woeful karma]

why elite wiz so over leveled

is my question

[limpid dragon]

pushed to w6 with it

[woeful karma]

ah

[slim mantle]

Not that bad he says. I'd argue thats incredibly advanced given the time frame

[pure helm]

Aye the average is ... much slower.

[limpid dragon]

it feels bad since all i see when im in this discord are people with quadrillions of damage

[faint willow]

2 weeks? wtf

i guess you probably have another acount?

[limpid dragon]

no

[slim mantle]

We didn't get to quadrillions of dmg in just a couple of weeks or months even for that matter. It takes a good few months

[faint willow]

impressive

i get overwhelmed with all the things the game has

[limpid dragon]

this is my first time playing. you can search my comment history on this discord. and see my dumb questions lol

[faint willow]

i struggle planning ahead

[woeful karma]

should i get rid of the statue talent and all but one of the shockwave slash talent and invbest into refinery and redox power of 10?

[high lake]

how it took me at least 4 months to get to w5

[slim mantle]

I do feel like that 2 weeks took a decent bit of

[woeful karma]

its gonna take me years

it took me 3 years to get to W3

[limpid dragon]

https://tenor.com/view/swimming-our-living-world-floating-in-water-whale-netflix-gif-7335395123688175059

[slim mantle]

Bad example, u could easily be w6 if u wanted

[high lake]

did u play consistantly

[faint willow]

how is you quest count going?

[woeful karma]

any any thing i should try to get within W2 to hasten that speed?

[limpid dragon]

i have been playing consistently

[faint willow]

im curious how many doable quests there are in w1-w2

[pure helm]

idk how much refinery cycles or power of 10 salt is gonna help right away. I would put your squire on the board asap and make cogs with 3 others.

[woeful karma]

all W1 are doable within W2
i need the genie for W2 which needs W3 drops

[woeful karma]

slacking somewhat on everyone other then Mman and Barb

[pure helm]

Then start building the top row right away.

[last grotto]

is divine scarf best aside from the deathbloom pendant

[high lake]

i meant the other guy but how do u have 180 ph with 2 weeks i only have 500 with 5 months

[slim mantle]

Can't random events teleport u to w3?

[woeful karma]

which other 3 would you recommend

[woeful karma]

only within the world or with it unlocked

[latent bramble]

I thought we talked about this before? Just the salt cost alone for the building you need like 70 cycles (40 red to unlock orange, 20 red to feed 10 oranges and you can't run an orange cycle unless you have red salt).
Your squire has a talent that can reduce this. At level 104 (assuming you get books), you can use this for 16 cycles, if you have 2 squires, that's 32 cycles, which still leaves you with 8 reds just to unlock orange salts.
Cycles run at 15 minutes baseline. So we're still looking at 9.5 hours for the remaining 38 cycles. I don't know how fast you can build those initial buildings, too. Iirc, you have to build buildings sequentially before you can even start the next, so that adds another 9 red salt or 2:15 to your time, so let's say 12 hours plus any potential waiting time for library and deathnote buildings to build

You could killroy for some refinery cycles if you have that available, but idk how many skulls you normally get

[limpid dragon]

idk i play more i guess?

https://danu_warrior.idleonefficiency.com/

Here is the link to my IE

[woeful karma]

you can skip maps not worlds

[slim mantle]

I see

[pure helm]

Shouldnt matter I only say 3 because thats the number of slots you have access to at the start

[faint willow]

i started 15th of december, almost 3 weeks, im like mid w4

[woeful karma]

damn so no death note
only printer probs

uh

[woeful karma]

wasnt sure if warriors would be best or something

[limpid dragon]

bb at fishing

[woeful karma]

or if its universal at the start

[latent bramble]

Killroy shop has 1 skull = 1 cycle, that's the only way I think you could bypass it, but you still have building time to consider

And I don't recall what my build rate was when I first got to w3 on alt

[woeful karma]

what im hearing is its just best to focus on printer and other things and leave death note for when i get back

[high lake]

nah u gotta be trolling

[woeful karma]

home
late at night

[limpid dragon]

death note right away will do like nothing for you

[slim mantle]

Thats decent. Dw about it

[woeful karma]

how?

[limpid dragon]

i dont see the point of rushing it

[woeful karma]

it will be huge

[faint willow]

buyings zen cogs should help if you want to spends gems

[latent bramble]

he should have enough damage for a few mk tiers

[last grotto]

not even all my hours used to play mobile

[high lake]

3.5k play hours and w2

[woeful karma]

think of how many MK on gmush i can get with 10m damage

[limpid dragon]

i guess im looking it from the perspective of someone newer that didnt have like 2y of gameplay in w1-2

[woeful karma]

thats just active play on pc tho

[limpid dragon]

i spent like 2d getting to w3

[woeful karma]

nothing of afk time

[faint willow]

i assume you spend money on gems?

[high lake]

thats the thing how are u still stuck at w2

[slim mantle]

Im afraid hes not

[woeful karma]

this is with Barb's axe toss talent

[woeful karma]

not stuck

[slim mantle]

His own choice.

[limpid dragon]

he quit for a year or so i think? idk how that would matter though with that many hours

[faint willow]

my first 2 weeks where only started pack and auto loot, the i whaled a bit a few datys ago

[woeful karma]

i took breaks here and there in the past

[limpid dragon]

were you a completionist?

just doing everything you could before moving forward

[woeful karma]

and then the spiral of trying to fix my account happened

[slim mantle]

He took completionist to a new level

[woeful karma]

and now i must live up to my past achievements

[limpid dragon]

because thats so many hours lol

[high lake]

yeah but why not go up i mean the best dmg skill eff etc are in w4 and up

[woeful karma]

[faint willow]

How do you decide "now its time to go to the next world"

[woeful karma]

one sec

[slim mantle]

I told him months ago when he was in w1. Its just not what he wants

[woeful karma]

let me just link it so i dont past the whole message again

[high lake]

ok

[limpid dragon]

well whatever brings you joy

[last grotto]

im trying to wale but i cant bc riftwalker is trash if you have phoenix wings

[limpid dragon]

im just wondering when the heck ill see the pack for phoenix wings

[slim mantle]

phoenix wings are nice early on, later they're pretty meh, better choices around

[faint willow]

i got it then they offered me gem motherlode and then ancient echoes(which i feel very grateful with)

what an amazing pack

sadly couldnt get any epic+ pets

[last grotto]

like...

[limpid dragon]

i am doot

[torpid acorn]

🐋

[faint willow]

i would be happy with just the crystal donut pet

[limpid dragon]

i was fighting for my life to get ram

[slim mantle]

dr wings, 40% afk gains wings for example

[last grotto]

ive gotten like 10 still no loot

doot

[woeful karma]

found it

[slim mantle]

getting doot in the first 10 would be insanely lucky

[last grotto]

k ill look out for the packs

[woeful karma]

gimi your slime

[torpid acorn]

its worse when you get a high pet boost but still havnt found frog

[last grotto]

i meant 10 rams

[woeful karma]

#midgame-chat-w3🧊w4🔮 message

[slim mantle]

ah, my bad

[last grotto]

i have 86 😦

[limpid dragon]

i gave up on ram and finally got it from a weekly free pull

[slim mantle]

luckily doot isn't as much of a must have anymore as it used to be 🙂

[limpid dragon]

hoping you get your doot soon

[woeful karma]

screw doot i want slug

[limpid dragon]

slug was insane early game

[woeful karma]

slug would be huge

[last grotto]

it would still be good you could allocate conjurer points differently

[woeful karma]

slug would be massive for me seeing as its not hard to get to 100

[slim mantle]

u could, but as a doot owner I'm still allocating those points there :p

[faint willow]

interesting

[woeful karma]

also as an update
until i get liq merc i have all P2W alch tab done

the final liq cauldron and future alch levels are all tahts left

[limpid dragon]

my only take away from that write up was that you have over 100 pickles

[woeful karma]

now working on forge

[slim mantle]

this is for doot owners

[woeful karma]

yes
i only missed 2ish daysmaybe 3

[woeful karma]

oh that sounds huge

[woeful karma]

it was depressing to have missed them

[last grotto]

i wanna cry i want that so bad

[slim mantle]

I do believe it's additive to all the other sources of all stat tho, it's not like it gave me an extra 30k stats

but still nice ofc

[woeful karma]

30% is 30% man

[white path]

doesn't affect total stats

[woeful karma]

its still good lmao

well
at least for me it would be pretty good

[faint willow]

have you been grinding owl and kangaroo all this time?

[woeful karma]

yes owl
less roo
roo is harder

[limpid dragon]

if you have like a lvl 30 fractal orion then idk what to say

[faint willow]

can you share your owl stats? im genuinely curious

[limpid dragon]

i expected more ngl

[latent bramble]

lul, more than me

[faint willow]

same

[sudden coral]

is there any quick way to level up cooking

[slim mantle]

come on, step up ur owling :p

[limpid dragon]

this is me with 2 weeks and i basically ignore owl half the time

[latent bramble]

i'm fine checking it 1-2 times a day

[woeful karma]

it gets harder the father you get lmao

[slim mantle]

thats more checking than me since a long time :p

[woeful karma]

wait till you see how bad my roo is

[faint willow]

3 weeks for me

[latent bramble]

roos even worse, at 5 mf

[woeful karma]

screwed up the first reset and im curerently playing catch up

almost all caught up now tho

[slim mantle]

huge gains to be gotten still

[woeful karma]

as you can see
could be higher

[latent bramble]

gotta get them bloach prints up

[last grotto]

just slightly

[woeful karma]

i have no prints to be bloached

[woeful karma]

ive been catching up lol

[slim mantle]

ah I started this like 10 hours ago, beautiful stuff

[woeful karma]

im 1 away from being able to mega

[pure helm]

SoonTM

[woeful karma]

and then i think ill only be 5 behind

[last grotto]

is there a guid to doing the dawg den idk what to put my amplifiers at

[latent bramble]

which door is that?

[woeful karma]

let me go figure out calculations rq

[slim mantle]

M2F7

[latent bramble]

it's a good one

[slim mantle]

wanna gues how many gemstones I found to achieve this beauty?

[limpid dragon]

13?

[last grotto]

closer to 13k

[latent bramble]

oh, door on m2f7, thought you were trying to get to purps

[last grotto]

prly

[pure helm]

Na I forgot about the orange salt thing but you could still be very fast at getting DK. You already have the fuel so DK printer cycles will help. That and you can use killroy to get to orange faster.

[faint willow]

is there a point to increasing the multi after you already unlocked next one?

[slim mantle]

nah I'm on it already, just found a decent gold sai today so decided to push on, these gemstones are rare but gues how many I found to get that glorious 13

[latent bramble]

8

[slim mantle]

makes shinies easier later but not rlly needed

[latent bramble]

i'm calling cap if it was 13. 12 i could believe

[slim mantle]

well considdering a +1 counts as 2 that wouldn't be possible :p

[faint willow]

does having 2 hearth pets increase the multiplier faster?

[pure helm]

So what your saying is he needs 50 or so killroy skulls.

[faint willow]

nice then

[slim mantle]

so keeping this in mind, I found another +1 after this which totals 13 (I can find up to +418, lovely rng)

[latent bramble]

yeah, and probably 4-8 zen cogs

[pure helm]

Printer is 3 library is 100 and DN is 200. 303 is pretty doable.

[woeful karma]

ill be going to MF3>4
currently sitting at 170 points
so im 4 points behind?
i think?
23+88+11+40+8=170 right?

so i need to get an extra 4 points this mega i think?

240-170 is 70
im currently sitting at 55+10+5 wait
im at 70 points now
am i back on track for real??

can anyone else help confirm that im back on track?

[slim mantle]

[woeful karma]

hell yeah!
ive fixed it?

lesss goooo

[slim mantle]

I personally didn't quite follow the guide like a bible, more like an early guideline

[woeful karma]

i shot myself in the foot by ignoring the first reset

[last karma]

What's that mega stuff

[woeful karma]

mega fish

[last karma]

hmm im still suffering after clicking a reset by accident gaining nothing out of it

[woeful karma]

wlecome GG's Reset no.1

[latent bramble]

hmm, I guess if we assume 10/hr or even 5/hr with level 1 but with his 9 characters, then build rate shouldn't be an issue. So it'd really just come down to if you have killroy available for refinery cycles @woeful karma

[slim mantle]

only 1x? lucky xD

[woeful karma]

waht effects construction tho

any stats?

STR?

[pure helm]

XP cogs.

[woeful karma]

so nothing aside from construction related things got it

[zenith hare]

murder

[pure helm]

You roll for cogs and filter by XP.

[zenith hare]

yeah

well stamps

[fossil kayak]

[pure helm]

Well there is that squire skill but pretty much.

[zenith hare]

call me bob is just xp cog bonus

so it fits inside xp cog category

[woeful karma]

yeah ill be getting those printed soon after getting printer

those shouldnt be too bad to get

and by the time i get MK it will be even easier

[pure helm]

If you get the bubbles a few lvls that will also help.

[woeful karma]

ill probs upgrade it as i speedrun to chillzor or whatever his name is

or maybe after

[limpid dragon]

should be chill for you

[woeful karma]

does time candy effect construction or refinery?

or printers?

[limpid dragon]

n

[woeful karma]

k so i dont need to worry about wasting them on my entry

[last grotto]

it does worship

[latent bramble]

candy will only affect worship charge on the character you're using it on

[woeful karma]

ah god it cool

[pure helm]

You still can to get to the boss faster. Or just map 3 for construction bubble mats.

[woeful karma]

oh i will be candy ing to the boss lol

i feel like i am going to need to make more space later in W3 lol

like after the boss
thankfuly i think chest space slots are in the W3 town shop?

[limpid dragon]

a few yea

[fossil kayak]

I'm a big fan of sorting out the rare mats

[woeful karma]

actually
I could probs jsut transer the statues over to one of my players and move the rare mats to there for now instead

[limpid dragon]

greenstacks before 3d printer

gamin

[woeful karma]

yeah?
what about them?

[limpid dragon]

its just impressive

[woeful karma]

ohhh

yeah
i had 3
then my iron turned int obars
now just have 2

[slim mantle]

"just 2" in w2

[woeful karma]

ive mined probably about 200m worth of copper ore total i think

[limpid dragon]

im just printing whatever random crap i need at the time

[woeful karma]

painful

[floral crest]

@zenith hare Eyyo im in this place now I still think I’m getting ass sailing for powertri one,two and three but should I just be following scoli?

[slim mantle]

help out a poor man

[woeful karma]

pls

spare some levels

[last grotto]

im looking through tome and its saying 190k afk hours is 92 points isnt this stupidly hard to do

[slim mantle]

just grab some from my hourly print

[woeful karma]

i would gladly take some l;mao

[slim mantle]

(storage caps at 1050m)

[woeful karma]

yeah

think of the mining power it would give me

[limpid dragon]

cant wait to get some more alchemy progress to get bigger prints

[slim mantle]

I'd have pretty big gains if I resampled

[limpid dragon]

sounds like there is no benefit though

[woeful karma]

im so close to getting 50% now

[last grotto]

imagine trying to transfer 200m w super low carry cap

[woeful karma]

tomorrow id assume

[slim mantle]

kinda 😅

[woeful karma]

i mean isnt it useful if you just chill on that map because storage over 1050m only converts upon map switch?

[slim mantle]

printer turns excess into atoms inmediatly

[woeful karma]

cant you just leave it up and get a bunch of stacks then upgrade a bunch of stuff

[woeful karma]

i was told it was upon map switch lol

[slim mantle]

which is true for all gains that aren't printer :p

[last grotto]

i thought it was also and ive seen it

[limpid dragon]

ill trust the person printing 4kb of ore

[woeful karma]

lmao

[echo radish]

Trusting occido is smart

[last grotto]

4t

[slim mantle]

so if I were to mine some copper I could pick it up and put it into my storage and go past the 1050m cap, it'll only convert if I change character or leave map, but printer will just put u to 1050m cap and convert the rest

[limpid dragon]

i am ngl numbers beyond a billion do not come up in my day to day

[slim mantle]

get used to it in idleon :p

[limpid dragon]

maybe eventually

[slim mantle]

don't ask me to go up that high in my native language either btw :p

[limpid dragon]

my numbers are still fun sized

[last grotto]

dont worry ive played alot of games i know all of the up to quattuordecillion

[slim mantle]

one of my lower damage characters

[woeful karma]

mine are still mostly non golden

[limpid dragon]

dont even know what number that would be, is T the final "value" used

[last grotto]

i remember the first time i got gold numbers i was so excited

[slim mantle]

it is, this guy does 3QQ damage

[woeful karma]

sameee

meant a lot lol

[limpid dragon]

i get one shot by tremor wurms, so i guess you can say we are not the same

[woeful karma]

and i now aim for golden numbers on everyone when i get to W3

[slim mantle]

I oneshot tremor wurms, I gotcha covered :p

[last grotto]

i think i cant get non purp numbers

[pure helm]

Was that in W1?

[woeful karma]

god know

no*

end of W2 on my barb only

[slim mantle]

behold my worst character aka my first character bb sucks lol

[last grotto]

i did the same

[forest canyon]

Zui why aren’t you w3

Event is done

[woeful karma]

because life bullshit

[last grotto]

why does the event matter

[forest canyon]

Get a cabin in the middle of nowhere and play idleon all day

[woeful karma]

i cant

[slim mantle]

he said he would go w3 when the event ended

[woeful karma]

life has other plans
i should enter W3 on the 8th

[forest canyon]

Zui just likes randomly setting milestones to avoid going to next world

[woeful karma]

yeah
like last time it was a few days after the event ended

[woeful karma]

W3 scary:(

[limpid dragon]

i think w3 is scared of you

[forest canyon]

😦

[woeful karma]

also look at my procrastinating

[forest canyon]

Bruh why did it autocorrect to an emoji

[woeful karma]

ive maxed out alch p2w sans 4th liquid

[woeful karma]

change the setting

[forest canyon]

:(

C8

[woeful karma]

B)

[hollow cosmos]

Does it eventually become possible to reach 90% printer sample without royal sampler?
Follow up, then is it worth to even max royal sampler if possible to reach 90% without it?

[latent bramble]

most people take it to about 30%

[slim mantle]

u can stop leveling royal sampler whenever u feel like, I believe it's commonly around lvl 11, once u reach it without u can just disable the prayer

[stray ember]

Uh oh

[torpid acorn]

is there a base damage number i can see somewhere? wondering if theres a way to know how much these additive bonuses are actually doing

[civic nexus]

3d printer. do i need to claim anything for that or is that auto put in stoarage?

[torpid acorn]

auto in storage

[latent bramble]

straight to storage

[civic nexus]

thx

[slim mantle]

I kinda see a lot of stormcallers and I'm failing to see krakens

[stray ember]

There in there i wasnt going for the highest js getting to 55 for the quest

[latent bramble]

shouldve gone full rollers

[slim mantle]

meanwhile I finally decided to farm some efaunt cards

[latent bramble]

[slim mantle]

hand them over, u saw how bad mine were xD

[stray ember]

I had to do the 5k dmg so i did something with less dmg so i could spam poison and aura at the start

[latent bramble]

sorry, already ate them

[slim mantle]

🤮 🙂

[stray ember]

Why is this a quest do this shi gonna take forever

[slim mantle]

give me that quest and I'll do it before I go to bed :p I never bothered to get to it xD

[stray ember]

I just dont have the keys i one tap him

[limpid dragon]

candy outside the boss room, they drop 1:15k right?

[stray ember]

I need 6k keys bro im not doing that

[slim mantle]

isn't it 5k? :p

[limpid dragon]

[latent bramble]

get those shroom kills

[stray ember]

60x100

[slim mantle]

memory is telling me 50 per thats why I thought 5k :p

[limpid dragon]

related i guess, is there any way to get more keys for w1-3 quicker

i know the minibosses can drop them

[slim mantle]

minibosses for w2 and w3, colo in general but that's NOT worth doing

[stray ember]

The mini bosses i got 3k w3 keys bc of slush. Other than that tdk

[limpid dragon]

i need chiz scarves

i have the freaking obols dropping but no scarves

[civic nexus]

follow up on 3d printing. only the selected item is what you get? not all 4?

[stray ember]

Yeah

[civic nexus]

thx

[latent bramble]

boss autobattler when

[slim mantle]

u got me beat on w1 😦

[stray ember]

Your keys hand them over.

[limpid dragon]

i would very much like a couple thousand w3 keys

rip

[slim mantle]

I might do 300 nightmare w3 boss runs tonight

[stray ember]

I got the most tho i might not need them

[cold wraith]

loaded

[stray ember]

Ong

[slim mantle]

farming efaunt sucks

[distant sonnet]

In Rift 31, what's the trick to getting Lava Skulls on these mushrooms?

[slim mantle]

just auto es or sb

[latent bramble]

kill mob, pray for skull, kill skull mob, pray for it to jump and upgrade, don't kill last mob if there's nothing for it to jump to. easiest on SB with VMan enhancement, ES/bubo are options, too. DK might be the worst one due to how his respawn works. can normally do it manually in 5-10 minutes, too

[distant sonnet]

Yeah I'm on an ES and can't get it

[slim mantle]

you need to do it on 2 different characters, in case ur "stuck" on 1/2

[distant sonnet]

I'm on 0/2 near lvl 500 on everyone

[slim mantle]

then it shouldn't take u more than a few min

[zenith hare]

do you have use attacks on auto on

i tend to turn em off after a speedrun and dont turn it back on

[latent bramble]

sb is free, I did a few of mine with bb manually

[distant sonnet]

yup

[zenith hare]

what attacks do you have in the attack bar?

cause es gets it done on average in 10 minutes

if you have stuff put on properly

even in w5 time

[distant sonnet]

I have everything that's an attack on the bar lol

[slim mantle]

theres 2 talents that most certainly shouldn't be on ur hotbar on es the first one from tab 2 and 3

[zenith hare]

including ice barrage and energy bolt?

[distant sonnet]

Yeah

[zenith hare]

cause that could very well be why its taking longer then expected

take em off

[slim mantle]

those 2 shouldn't be on, ever

[zenith hare]

tldr why: they only use after ur next basic attack, which stalls all ur abilities so you kill stuff slower

lightning barrage is fine to be used as it makes the wormhole portal count far higher, and you only want 1 basic attack talent on at once

[distant sonnet]

Huh... What's the ES attack bar supposed to look like?

[zenith hare]

portal, radiant chainbolt, lightning, meteor, tornado, volcano

[distant sonnet]

That's it?

[zenith hare]

fireball can be added too but doesnt change much at all

yeah

[slim mantle]

even if fireball is not on the hotbar it should atleast be leveled (for that talent that creates one with an auto attack)

[faint willow]

is there a required exp for next level table for trapping?

[zenith hare]

no

[slim mantle]

"table"?

[faint willow]

yeah, was wondering how much exp i need until level 35 trapping

[slim mantle]

ah like that, yeah I don't think there is one

[near magnet]

https://daekie.idleonefficiency.com/world-3/ With the Worship tower levels I have in Construction, what should I be able to get on the Frosty Firefight totem (or at least, what the hell should I be doing there, since with my tower levels the way they are I can't follow any guides I find)? I need 2500 Frigid Souls for Anvil Tab 4 and I do not want to get those 17 at a time, plus my Construction's a bit tied up right now since I'm working on both build-heavy upgrades & increasing my Refinery tiers.

[slim mantle]

guides generally have higher levels than u actually need to achieve the same thing and even if u don't have enough just get a bit less far than the guide

[distant sonnet]

TY! This worked, so one down one to go

[latent bramble]

check 📌 for a low level boulder strat
7 boulder is pretty low, maybe somewhere in the teens/20?
You don't need anvil tab 4, you can gain a lot of power from w1-2 mechanics
You can skip around for your vials. Work on your early alchemy bubbles

[near magnet]

Oh, I don't need Anvil Tab 4 by any means, but I have a ton of recipe unlocks and no recipes to use them on until I get Tab 4 and it's pissing me off

I will go investigate the pins, though! 🏃‍➡️

[latent bramble]

Also I'd highly suggest not working on atom collider at the moment. Nearly anything else will give you greater returns

Though I guess you're waiting for mats on nearly everything else

[latent bramble]

here, you can have this one

[slim mantle]

hey it looks identical to half the ones I found

[pine fiber]

did you guys also have a hard time getting croissant?

it's my last recipe in that spice combo and the odds are

[slim mantle]

probably just an inefficient spice combo to get it with

[pine fiber]

it's what the wiki says to use tho

[neat birch]

for breeding, does pets with breeder genetic matter what level the unit is for increasing the multiplier faster?

[slim mantle]

wiki has 2 recipes in general, one for fastest filled and one for highest chance. also other stuff matters ofc like ur luck, fire rate

[pine fiber]

I'm using those 4, obviously I'm not even at smokey lake

I guess this wont be nearly enough for finding it efficiently?

[slim mantle]

I can't claim to even remotely remember my kinda rates back then

[pine fiber]

[uneven obsidian]

how long does it take to get a full bar for it ?

[pine fiber]

lemme check, already exited the game

currently

[slim mantle]

use ur bb talent to claim this

[pure helm]

Just lick it.

[pine fiber]

already owned

[slim mantle]

now u can click again cuz u used bb talent 🙂

[pine fiber]

yeah it went back down to 21%, owned x2

[slim mantle]

how long till fire filled?

[pure helm]

or wait for a new BB skill.

[pine fiber]

days

I'll just upgrade my first table and try again

[ionic delta]

is there a best map for farming plunderous kills? my portal and orb kills are over 1 mil, but plunderous is way behind

[slim mantle]

just go like this

[latent bramble]

oh, i forgot i need to check fire on my alt gotta get that 2nd meal i guess

oh, i also forgot I unlocked genie map on hunter

[slim mantle]

you are not gonna do that achievement any time soon, takes like 50 full days for late gamers, citringes is the best map for it

[latent bramble]

oh gdi, forgot i even had the game open

well, i guess that actually beats me just standing there for an hour

[near magnet]

Yeahhhhh I'm. Kinda mat-locked. Atom Collider is just kind of a SINCE IT'S THERE, I GUESS.

[latent bramble]

yeah, if you can get mats to work on anything else then that'd be better. but for now, since you have the slot

[ionic delta]

i didnt realize it was an achievement, i just felt like 1 mill was a reasonable "pow 10" to get for the bonus lmfao

[slim mantle]

lots of people just never bother going for it, many stop at like 100k 200k 300k

thats on the later end players, early game u stop a lot sooner

[pure helm]

I have had it on the front burner since about W4 launch and I still dont have it.

[ionic delta]

well im at over 90k, might as well get to 100 then, thanks for letting me know lol, i probably would have afk'd for a whole year

i just swap to my SB if i dont need someone else active farming at this point

[slim mantle]

u want choco chip and best possible crystal spawn chance btw

[ionic delta]

i have choco chip on my big 3 🙂

this was a great year for choco chips

[slim mantle]

I have to return to this some day and I really just don't wanna

[slim mantle]

*great end of year, I started 18th of februari and I had to go chip gamba for my choco chip because the first one didn't come around till... october?

[ionic delta]

i only have 3 of them, i got them all in 2024

[slim mantle]

ye end of the year

the rest of the year was terrible for them

[ionic delta]

honestly all i needed was 3 anything after that is mostly bonus

[slim mantle]

only truely need 1

[ionic delta]

i refuse to hot swap... its an idle game at its core lmao

[uneven obsidian]

multiple allow us to be lazy XD

[slim mantle]

it's a thing of comfort and I like that, but u can make do with 1

[ionic delta]

depending on my mood im either checking once a day, when i get home from work, or inbetween playing my main games, but im not gonna sweat in an idle game 😛

[slim mantle]

I mostly just have it open in the background as I do other stuff

[ionic delta]

i reached 50% account in december, and im pretty content with that status

[zenith hare]

murder

[slim mantle]

[zenith hare]

death!

[slim mantle]

[frozen stirrup]

Hello, I've noticed there are 3 pages of storage but I only have those 3 rows available for the pets. Is there a way to increase that limit?

[zenith hare]

the gem shop

[frozen stirrup]

Oooh I never saw that

Thanks a lot

[latent bramble]

oh no. i swapped over to mouseys but I don't have space in my stash

literally the worst problem

[cold wraith]

@dense pine

[placid dune]

is there a cap on multikill?

[cold wraith]

looks like you found it

[latent bramble]

lul, used my remaining boxes on alt, got a ghost mask and golden box but they vanished into the void. thanks larva

[cold wraith]

yea i got a ghost mask but it also disappeared

rip the slab but whatever

[slim mantle]

I dropped like 5 ghost helmets

[cold wraith]

i got pretty unlucky

[slim mantle]

thats all the helmets I was getting

[latent bramble]

dang yo, guess i forgot to resample after unlocking MK

[fallen crescent]

finally unlocked all meals omg

[short siren]

Making jumps cow

[placid pasture]

How do you get that damage dang

[latent bramble]

damn bruh, failed 21 of 22 w4 upgrade stones. feelsbadman

[vital kestrel]

uh.... i think i go wrong way XD

help me

[verbal crow]

you have to finish the guys quest before you can go to the next area

[verbal crow]

ouch. I'm not looing forward to W4 stones

[wraith drift]

i just accidentally sold a weapon

is there anyway i can get it back

or am i just gonna have to grind it out again

[verbal crow]

I'm no expert on the game so it might be good to get an opinion from a W6 player but I think you're screwed

[wraith drift]

fuck

[pure helm]

Beginner class' like Mman should have him drop the rope just by talking to him.

[vital kestrel]

got it sir tksm

[verbal crow]

Oh I didn't even realize you were a meastro. MB dude.

Thanks for clearing things up Cyfer

[pure helm]

np

[tranquil burrow]

do i want redox and dioxide salts as high refinery rank as possible but level the other ones accordingly?

or just redox as high as possible

alr

[magic haven]

At w3 ill get all character their specialized hat (such as the slefk coitl or the mage hat i know i spelled that wrong) and full amarok set with w3 stones. The golden (im grinding for the next tier one now like the crows nest or slasher) weapons with w3 stones too right?

[latent bramble]

don't necessarily need the hats. copper or gold is fine, too if you don't want to grind out the rare mats

[astral lava]

Hey acecow

Look what I made

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1XeZBb96VygNSLKOFJOMcAm12Lch-HFuDmLRZMOBjGhU/edit?usp=drivesdk

Now the question is: how can this be useful?

I feel so wasted..

[latent bramble]

Useful to the few people who ask for something like this. I'd probably add a note about the W6 jewels that you'll get them from lab levels

looks good though

[astral lava]

I thought there would be other uses, like more than 5 or 6 from alchemy but got bamboozled at the end

[astral lava]

And wanted to know which spice I can fully invest in kitchen upgrades

[fossil kayak]

[latent bramble]

yeehaw

[magic haven]

Wait if my afk gain rate is not 100% (54%) should i active skilling or something?

[latent bramble]

i'd only active skill if you're at equinox or doing minigames, there's quite a few things that don't drop while active

[west ingot]

whats the best source of distilled water behind alchemy

[wraith drift]

killing mobs probably

i would presume its better than alch actually if u can get the stats for it tho

[latent bramble]

all* w3 mobs drop it

[magic haven]

I hate grinding for 1/20k drops aaaa how to increse chance i already got full card preset with droprate cards but it is not working

i need 12 glass shard but i never get them

Wait how to increase afk gainrate this is bad

[west ingot]

more multikill

[magic haven]

ok ty

[latent bramble]

neither of those will help with your glass shard farming if you're active

i honestly wouldn't even bother with it and just keep pushing. if you want, you could leave someone afk for a day or two and probably get 1-2. otherwise the active time you spend here is kind of a waste

but if it floats your boat

Here are all the relevant DR sources, see if you can work on anything else
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1l3RFWq1Zypqkfby1YncOkuY_K4aSist14KUK5dJQ3as/edit

[hard bridge]

Anyone have a guide or anything for construction levels? Like a break down of how much xp to level up and such

[astral lava]

Wiki formulae

[hard bridge]

Doesn't have anything for construction

[astral lava]

It have

4th formula

And 5th

[latent bramble]

wow, TIL that page exists

[astral lava]

What is TIL?

[latent bramble]

today i learned

[astral lava]

What, wdym, ofc you knew Abt it like a century ago

[hidden violet]

Grats!

[latent bramble]

probably and then i forgot about it

[honest reef]

did you make an alt?

[latent bramble]

yeah a few months ago

[honest reef]

dang i dont think ill ever create an alt for this game

dont wanna suffer early game again

[latent bramble]

it's been very low key

the most i've done on it was farm out some daily gifts for the event to get the afk gains

w1 is stupid fast. w2 and 3 i mostly just afk'd through. trying to get a feel for the bare minimum to get through w5

[neat yoke]

How do I get round 115 arena with 4 or less pets

[honest reef]

are you doing it so that you can help more people with the current meta?

[honest reef]

theres a guide somewhere

probably in the guide masterlist

[latent bramble]

#lategame-chat-w5🌋-w6🌸 message

[honest reef]

that is very noble of you acecow

[hard bridge]

Nothing involving construction.

[pulsar basin]

Depends on what you really need, XP to level up or like Building Speed or somethin

[hard bridge]

Xp to level up construction. Example being one of my characters is at lv 150/300 i need for equinox. I want the xp requirements to gage how long it will take.

[astral lava]

Bruhh

[latent bramble]

https://idleon.wiki/wiki/Formulae

first section
4th and 5th line

[astral lava]

Scroll

[astral lava]

Down

[pulsar basin]

Well then lmao

[latent bramble]

it's under the xp required per level section

[candid summit]

What’s the purpose of the save button in worship? Is there a way to load from that saved state?

Nvm found it

I hit summon and the load button appeared at the top lol

[sleek crown]

Does anyone have any tips for killing 500 slimes in rift or is my problem just respawn rate of w4 monsters

[pure helm]

W4 elite class also have new respawn mechanics.

[sleek crown]

Do wormhole kills count in rift??

[pure helm]

I hear they do but haven't tested this. But for pure respawn rate bubo is the best.

DK or SB should also work so long as you are killing things fast enough.

[sleek crown]

I mainly use ES for the AoE, is that good enough?

[pure helm]

ES will work but will take more damage as portal mobs naturally get tanker.

[sleek crown]

thanks

[pure helm]

If its not working on ES try another one.

[sleek crown]

is rift account wide?

I've been putting it off so much that I already reached world 5 T-T

[sleek pollen]

you do it from time to time

even if you do all rift you’ll be stuck at one point bc of damage most of the time

[pure helm]

Also for lava skulls, dont full clear.

[placid pasture]

I would just get trapper drone done in rift until w6 and when you reach w6 go for skill mastery one in rift

[torpid acorn]

just saw how time candy's dont work in later worlds and saw how little they are used in. but also its kinda funny that i have this much...

ngl might be able to blast through like half of W5 with this at least

should i maybe keep like a hundred of each? is it easy to grind for them in the late game?

[sleek pollen]

yeah giant grind and mini boss

[torpid acorn]

giant grind? as in giant mobs?

i dont see it in the drop details

[pure helm]

Giant mobs always drop candy.

[torpid acorn]

oh damn, so i should use these then? or at least the simple ones?

[pure helm]

And ya you may as well use some.

[torpid acorn]

what are the rates like for late game?

like if im getting 20 a week then im completely fine with just using them

[pure helm]

there is not that many sources but you always get a few of them from the star signs mini boss and giants. Also the star talent if you use that.

[torpid acorn]

so what does that come out to? like 5 or 100 a week

ofc low drop rate itll be a little all over the place but whats the range

[pure helm]

idk tbh I never counted.

[sleek pollen]

hundreds of candies at least every week if you can kill a nice number I’d say

[pure helm]

I have never managed to run out thu.

[torpid acorn]

hmm, okay what ones should i use up completely then? like can you still get 72 hour candies often with that method?

[sleek pollen]

maybe not use completely rn but use candy for when you want to farm rare drops or recipe

||nothing island||

[pure helm]

Low tier ones are far more common.

[torpid acorn]

ok, maybe i set a minimum candy for storage and use excess when i need to then

50 for each?

[pure helm]

That seems reasonable

I should probably use more myself.

[torpid acorn]

just did the math on this is there a gimmick that makes it so it doesnt take 280 years?

epic thanks both of you, bouta hit W5 and a little beyond tommorow

[pure helm]

Candy works there.

TP to the hole to get it started.

[torpid acorn]

i mean still whatever time you spend gathering the candy is time spent not doing nothing

max char nothing is 27 years

like... better ig

i suppose thats a later problem though

[ebon tapir]

should i use this by itself or combine it with my normal archer build

[pure helm]

One preset for fighting one for skilling.

[indigo stratus]

Would anyone happen the have the pet battle strat?

[ebon tapir]

but i dont want to leave my archer just standing there

thats why im asking that question

[indigo stratus]

Wdym standing there?

[pure helm]

Trapping is not a active skill.

[ebon tapir]

oh i thought i had to put my archer there

[indigo stratus]

You can set the traps and leave to do other things

On all characters too

[torpid acorn]

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/u/0/d/193tGCv_nJpgleOzQ2jkO9KEpSh8JcOZLdjDolD9Z0FI/htmlview?pli=1#

[indigo stratus]

Thankyou!

[vestal ether]

Someone told me i should be able to do biggie in my first week but I'm still struggle bussing even with the set up. Is there an optimal power level to aim for? (Pet battles)

[sleek pollen]

Beside having more power for more hp and dmg its just about the block timing and pray

[vestal ether]

Should i bother trying to get a better slime or just push?

Oh I'm an idiot, i remembered my real question. Is the onyx 10k statue thing a one time buff for each statue or do you need to do it multiple times?

[pure helm]

its 20k but you only need to do it once per statue just like buying gold.

[sleek pollen]

not want to alarm but I had 1k7 mimic, 1k2 slime, 1k3 carrot and 600 frog, swapped fleeter and tried any other pet that could help me

[sleek pollen]

don’t bother about onyx until decent crystal farm setup again

[vestal ether]

Yeah, im just wondering if hoarding all these statues is worth it/buying from weekly boots.

[vestal ether]

A frog would be lit, tbh, screw the fleeter

[forest portal]

is onix 10k or 20k?

[torpid acorn]

20

[sleek pollen]

I just had enough of fleeter and wanted to try all my other pet I had at the time x)

[sleek pollen]

Maybe keep the statue from w1 to w3, rest you can deposit

[vestal ether]

Yeah, i have a really nice fleeter but f those freaking giants

[torpid acorn]

when in W6 do i start going back and doing certain tasks? is it whenever i start to feel a bottleneck or is it right when i enter

like starting the onyx grind etc

and cards

[sleek pollen]

W6 is really slow so yeah backtrack a bit

Farm anything you can like cards obols, better tools for all char

[sleek pollen]

Yeah that also if can crystal farm with somewhat high crystal spawn chance and dr

[torpid acorn]

ok 👍

[sleek pollen]

Can also try to work on max book level 200+ for cc farm
Get some vials maxed

[forest portal]

how long does it usally take to finish onix

[pure helm]

Thats in W5 pins but its fine to start some of that sooner.

[sleek pollen]

Finish? Like weeks at least

[forest portal]

shd l give up if it takes a month

[sleek pollen]

Nah

[pure helm]

you need at least 8X DR choco chip and some crystal spawn chance from something.

[forest portal]

yes

but l active for like an hour per day

[rain scroll]

hi guys

[torpid acorn]

hello

[pure helm]

Ahh yes it is active only pretty much.

[sleek pollen]

Welp gotta active overnight a week to see something

[forest portal]

cant dont have atou collect

min 15 min before my game is like 1 fps

[hidden violet]

Damnnn no auto loot

[pure helm]

You could try afk in W3 once you have power already. You will want to active for power statues thu.

[rain scroll]

autoloot is kinda must

[forest portal]

f2p for the win

[rain scroll]

im also f2p but have autoloot but that isnt possible now

[sleek pollen]

Yeah unless you want to actively fuck up your sleep schedule by waking up every 30m-1h to collect all on the ground gotta have auto loot

[forest portal]

lol

[rain scroll]

if u want to do active autoloot must

[forest portal]

l got school so no

[sleek pollen]

F

[forest portal]

l guess l can just active in school

[indigo stratus]

what is the best class to use to farm this bags?

[rain scroll]

es

i think so

[indigo stratus]

I see. thanks

[sleek pollen]

I think so too

[upbeat cargo]

what are the best shiny pets to never take off fenceyard, I'm leaning towards the star sign ones

[sleek pollen]

Shiny rate for sure, star sign and some other im trying to remember

[sleek pollen]

Infinite star signs, Meal Effect, Base Eff for skills, and Drop Rate are all big ones.
-a zebra (@fossil kayak)

[fossil kayak]

The autoreviewer has a section on shiny buffs. Breaks it down into tiers.

[upbeat cargo]

oh nice

[sleek pollen]

Oh no not the autoreview

[rain scroll]

sheesh

ima afk for 30k more kills ig lol

[upbeat cargo]

there are still many sections I've never gone over in the reviewer

[forest portal]

what rift?

[sleek pollen]

This year just got worse already by the mention of the autoreview

[rain scroll]

39

[upbeat cargo]

you don't like it?

[forest portal]

nice

[sleek pollen]

I like it, only when it doesnt roast me so never

[forest portal]

lol

[sleek pollen]

[upbeat cargo]

I know I'm still neglecting those w2 material anvil points

[rain scroll]

i have done till w3 2d ago

i think i wont be able to get 2m luigi in time 😦

rip 150h+ candy

[sleek pollen]

Same

[upbeat cargo]

deposit anvil statues, book archer anvil talents, max anvil PO box

[hard scroll]

Just got to world 4 and why are the mushrooms so strong?

[rain scroll]

i only started after silkrode chip came xD

[forest portal]

hp or survivablity?

[rain scroll]

and i had only 600 at that time i make 8900 an hour ill be like off by 2-3d

[forest portal]

l need like 1mil more

[rain scroll]

whats ur rate to make them?

check ie

[upbeat cargo]

I have 18k/h and I don't even have all my players on it... you can probably do it if you boost anvil speed

[forest portal]

450 cuz l have a dk and es only

[rain scroll]

u make 18k luigi/h?

[upbeat cargo]

yes

[rain scroll]

wrong

not possible

[rain scroll]

dang

[upbeat cargo]

go do those three things and you can get there