midgame-chat-w3🧊w4🔮

[faint willow]

i need to check that prayer

[deep wigeon]

was 53,1% so def worth increase

[latent bramble]

most people level the prayer to around 30% bonus, rest you can get from other sources. but feel free to max it too

[astral lava]

Sup Acecow, are all the prayers you have maxxed?

[latent bramble]

the ones that i have equipped, yes

there are some that i'll never use so I didn't level them

[astral lava]

Do you think I should level up everything to max?

[opaque whale]

Are sigils only active if you have a character assigned to them and the icon unlocked in the lab? Or are they permanently active once unlocked?

[tall harness]

https://idleon.wiki/wiki/Alchemy#Sigils

[opaque whale]

Thank you!

[astral lava]

Permanently active

= Useless to assign a character to it if you unlocked it (except for upgrading it more)

[opaque whale]

Got it, appreciate it! I'll get to shiny for str and then reassign my chars then

[uneven obsidian]

also sigil are concidered a trap if you have not finished unlocking the bubbles

[fierce veldt]

if i show how I've played W4 in the last 3ish weeks I think some people would have a heart attack

i think i have so much shit to improve

but my next worry now is to know what I'll do with my 8th character. I have a maestro as 7th

is there a specific class that people go for in their 8th character?

[uneven obsidian]

2nd dk/es for 8th/9th

[fierce veldt]

I currently have one of each, so I'd repeat dk and es?

[zenith hare]

dk first

for construction progress

[fierce veldt]

ty

[dense egret]

How do I increase my construction rate early W3?

[zenith hare]

focus xp% cogs and wait

construction is an afk skill. it'll take time

[faint willow]

what skilling skill does beast master like¡

not sure if go for exp or power rn

my breeding is lvl 10

[uneven obsidian]

ignore the egg per hours of afk, other 3 are good, not quite sure which one you should focus more on

[faint willow]

invested 1 on each so far, not sure why i get 2 free levels on each

i could go 5050, not sure (exp and power)

[uneven obsidian]

symbole give +1 lvl and es family bonus is + talent free points

[faint willow]

i barely have pets rn

[deep wigeon]

good increase

[spice sun]

What does efficiency do for worship? # of souls?

[uneven obsidian]

yeah

[errant ice]

How do I get 24 hours??

[spice sun]

Whats the better of the boulder roller upgrades?

I usually go +2 hits on the first guys, then distance on the further ones

[spice sun]

Its based on your available resources, so you need more mushroom caps

[ionic drift]

more resources 🙄

[deep wigeon]

the fuel time is how long it is untill ur out of resources

[topaz plank]

i'm need some advice...
in +- 12 days we got a choco chip,
i dont have 1 should i put almost all my chars on pinion spur? so i can make it? (i would need about 7ish days)

[uneven obsidian]

probably should since that chip is a big game changer for farming

[cold wraith]

yea also dont slack breeding and cooking for the time being cus cheese is also timelocked

[topaz plank]

thought so, but wasn't sure if i should rush

[cold wraith]

another one wont come till april and by then youll be wanting one

[topaz plank]

where can u see this? i only got 1 date available

[cold wraith]

https://idleon.wiki/wiki/Template:Lab_Rotation

[gleaming pond]

i just unlocked world 3 what should i focus on?

[topaz plank]

fix up 3D printer/ salts

[topaz plank]

about 3weeks ego i was there aswel and i rushed to W6, but i'm still fucked behind a Salt lock....

[topaz plank]

also somthing i learned to late, focus on EXP cogs (exp%)

contruction level will alweys be better in long run to get build rate

[spare terrace]

how do i beat round 115 with only 4 pets?

[cold wraith]

why round 115

[spare terrace]

for equinox

[gleaming pond]

lol thanks for the tips they’re a big help

[cold wraith]

ah i heard a lot of people say use peapod

[spare terrace]

its the only 1 i can complete at the moment

[spare terrace]

thank you

[vernal spade]

anyone know how to do is quest?

[cold wraith]

turn autoloot off if you have it and just auto

[vernal spade]

thanks lol

[topaz plank]

Question, i saw somthing about getting meals to level 11 for somthing called diamond chef? what is diamond chef and where do i get it?

[tender ocean]

18th bubble in yellow couldron

[topaz plank]

ahhaha, the one i unlocked this morining...

[spare terrace]

i did that fast as hell, you got a good team to get to 200?

[spare terrace]

you wanna get vman fast to cause his cooking ability is crazy, but i also dont remember if it is for meals 30+ or any meals level

[pearl edge]

why is that`?

[topaz plank]

already got vman for like 4days

[topaz plank]

but i was like sick afk, so ive been lucky that i still have 7chars doing my divinity grind...

[pearl edge]

ah tru

[spare terrace]

make sure to max out vmans cooking skill to whatever you can to speed cooking up a lot

[pearl edge]

im busy pushing my vman through w6 before permabenching him on skilling

[slim mantle]

you don't push with vman

[pearl edge]

i mean my other chars have pushed through it allready

just doing it cause i wanna

[slim mantle]

exactly, so why push vman? just do a speedrun and it's done

[spare terrace]

yea his speedrun auto unloacks it'

[pearl edge]

good to know

well its not that bad its still good exp for me hes like lvl 400

world 5 candy kinda falls off, dunno if theres sth im missing

[spare terrace]

yea mine is 460, i ended up using him wrong for most of the time ive had mine

[slim mantle]

to level him just farm crystals at samurai

[spare terrace]

it wasnt until like 2 weeks ago i realised his cooking boost and then hav ebeen using it since, i have all meals besides the last spice meals and all are like 50+

[pearl edge]

hmm

think its too early for me to specc into that

but its good to know

[slim mantle]

needs a couple hundred more meal levels to start getting good

[spare terrace]

that and bonuses from bubbles, vials, possibly the hole if you want

[white lintel]

At around meal lvl 500-600 is when it starts ramping up a lot

[ebon kiln]

easiest way for lucky lad on beginner is candy last mining node?

[white lintel]

Yes

[cold wraith]

@white lintel does this still work or is there a better lineup i can use

[white lintel]

For territory or arena

[cold wraith]

territory

i got some meal levels up and i lowk wanna get more now

[white lintel]

Do rattler mono looter refiller refiller borger
If your borger dies in one hit you can swap him to defender, and remember to turn auto attack off on borger to get the ramp up to go faster

[cold wraith]

erm what why off on borger

[white lintel]

You can also try the one you showed me bc you have infinite territory attempts

Bc it’s ability is that it shoots 2 basic attacks

[cold wraith]

soo

do i just auto everything else then

[white lintel]

So if you turn it off your not missing anything and the refillers will refill other abilities instead leading to more ability spam

You could manually do mono, I’m not sure what the best strat for it is, I’ve done mono on auto and just had to wait for the right rng to get the abilities to line up to keep the loop. But you can also use it manually

[cold wraith]

ah ok

not the best start but we keep moving

nvm ig it js works

[hasty briar]

!gear

[candid scarab]

Gear Recommendations

[cold wraith]

#bot-commands

[slim mantle]

do ur daily boss grind on him

[vague vault]

How do I get breedabilty on pets?

[vague vault]

I have breedabilty unlocked, how do I get a pet with the trait?

[cold wraith]

every time you use an egg it has a chance to have the breedability bonus

[vague vault]

Ok thank you

[cold wraith]

it looks pink and the trait is replaced with a heart

[slim mantle]

video of how to get breedability :p

[cold wraith]

my ig reel feed is so cooked

[fierce veldt]

why does the gear recommended include a bunch of green pots?

[cold wraith]

those are increase your movement speed and those increase your gains

both afk and active

[slim mantle]

it helps for afk gains and for some classes active

[fierce veldt]

interesting

[silent kelp]

So......I'm set to finish cooking by the end of the month. Once that's done, what meal do I leave my kitchens on?

[slim mantle]

turkey for the artifact

[verbal crow]

At what point did you guys max out your AFK gains rate increase talent? I just realized I've left all of mine on 50/100 for ages

[slim mantle]

as soon as u can afford the points? :p

[ebon kiln]

Killing 300 bosses right? Recommended to do 100 of each of the first 3 to split keys or what?

[slim mantle]

doesn't matter which one u kill, most people just do 300x kruk

assuming they can afford it ofc

[ebon kiln]

I have the most kruk keys currently

[spare terrace]

is 6 seconds the lowest time you can get killing eufaunt

[slim mantle]

1 or 2 sec

[spare terrace]

with who?

[slim mantle]

bm

whales into ballista

[spare terrace]

gotcha, thanks

[waxen copper]

How do I grind the troll keys for 100 blitz trolls

Do I use active es? Idle someone?

[slim mantle]

active es would be good for it

I'm ready for it :p

[waxen copper]

Or would I do someone like DK for crystal farming or something

[ebon kiln]

I did the last task and used all my keys

[slim mantle]

dk on that map is shit and he is worse at key farming anyway, but use him on weekly miniboss kills

[waxen glacier]

Does anyone still use the Royal Sampler prayer? Or does it cap out somewhere? I saw AutoReview says it caps at 90%, but I thought I saw late-ish gamers talking about it a bit ago

[ebon kiln]

you can get to 90 without it

[torpid acorn]

do late game players eventually take it off because of the debuff?

[fierce veldt]

does it make any sense to be focusing on catching with my maestro class lvl 104 / catching 31? I think its probably a waste of time

[waxen copper]

Is your maestro the highest level catcher?

[fierce veldt]

nope

i think my pirate guy is 40ish

[waxen copper]

Then you should probably work on that

[fierce veldt]

k

[cold wraith]

what is bis trophy for dr

[fierce veldt]

basically i should have the best equip possible +agi upgrades right?

[waxen copper]

That and general skill eff/catching eff and speed upgrades

But with a higher focus on skill xp

[fierce veldt]

kk so refraining from using the prayer

[slim mantle]

I did

[waxen copper]

It'd be better to use that prayer, I see usually that the higher efficiency gives me more xp

More efficiency means more bugs which weighs out the lower gain. And plus, you may be able to use a higher tier of bugs than before, making even more xp

[cold wraith]

yes more efficiency is good

[torpid acorn]

when does this trigger?

[slim mantle]

daily reset

[cold wraith]

on one character only

[slim mantle]

luckier lad

[cold wraith]

ok

did lava fix it so that it deposits on all

[nimble vault]

What’s the best pet setup for spices?

[cold wraith]

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/e/2PACX-1vSCepYAs6sNDP4iq6MJNAG1pvFXzfC_3IQ7ttt5vfEEKAgQhIk4cQqnLRyeH6UyqDSuP4R-6WQeDmmP/pubhtml#

[slim mantle]

it doesn't work properly so sometimes some don't trigger it but it's certainly not 1 character only

[cold wraith]

hm ok

i never really took the time to check so ill trust

[slim mantle]

I checked it when I was on the newer side and I couldn't go a day before capping it out, some didn't trigger but several others did, every day

[cold wraith]

ah

i switched from doing the first three items to the last 3 so i dont have that problem

ill prob go back to first three when i have w5 mat bags

[slim mantle]

I did too now cuz I produce that quickly and I didn't like seeing IT show me 1 or 2 characters capping out and me then having to go bother to claim it manually

mind u my point distribution focusses on capacity, not speed :p

[cold wraith]

oh rly

what even is your speed

[slim mantle]

depends on char

[cold wraith]

oh

my es has 1.8 and i think sb has 3 or 4m

[cold wraith]

wtf

[slim mantle]

tbf that is my sb, I just happen to be on him right now

[tender ocean]

teach me the way of speed

[cold wraith]

how much did you level this

[slim mantle]

bish ur probably in the trillions

[tender ocean]

[slim mantle]

am I wrong?

[slim mantle]

sb?

and gues u went even more on capacity than I did :p

[tender ocean]

its on bubo rn

[cold wraith]

yikes

[slim mantle]

btw hour I tested the gloomie card %

[tender ocean]

bubo just has rucksack on rn

[fierce veldt]

I should probably use my candies and rush up to world 5 rigth

[slim mantle]

and it was in fact garbage additive like u told me

[fierce veldt]

instead of being stupid and killing things actively

[tender ocean]

yeah its a trap

rather safe your candies

if you rsh rn, you wont be getting far in w5 anyway

[fierce veldt]

my main character is a blood berserker and he is lvl 150

would that be enough?

[sharp wind]

Yeag

[cold wraith]

that is enopugh dmg

[tender ocean]

for pushing w4 it is but starting to go into w5 is hard but i am not an expert on that case

[sharp wind]

Someone pick yes or no

[formal brook]

im stuck on w6 with pet breeding anyone got any pointers?

[fierce veldt]

i think everyone agreed on its enoughj to get into w5

[cold wraith]

its enough

[fierce veldt]

now the question is: is it worth it?

spending the candies

[cold wraith]

youll hit a wall for w5 anyway

better to get started earlier with gods and lab/div grind

[slim mantle]

most importantly is just, don't use bb for w5 :p

[fierce veldt]

whats bb

[tender ocean]

the class you use rn

[fierce veldt]

ahhh

[slim mantle]

blood berserker

[fierce veldt]

so I get to w5 and then start focusing on another class?

[slim mantle]

yes

[fierce veldt]

which one?

[torpid acorn]

i think its DK? someone confirm?

[slim mantle]

dk if you want to stick with warrior, es for mage

[fierce veldt]

does it change anything or is it just personal perference?

[slim mantle]

es is a bit better for this stage

[bronze moth]

just got my first bubo

[slim mantle]

*only bubo

[fierce veldt]

kk

whats a bubo

[slim mantle]

bubonic conjuror

[fierce veldt]

ahh

i like mine

nice guy

[slim mantle]

at ur stage it's shit, later he is great but right now, nope

[fierce veldt]

mine is just afk in the lab

[slim mantle]

good

[fierce veldt]

whats the command for the best cards to equip?

[slim mantle]

I don't think there is one besides for the basic skills

[fierce veldt]

with my BB should I just focus on total damage?

[bronze moth]

yeah i just need him for getting my ppl to reach killer brightside without my jman or my dk

[slim mantle]

shouldn't hurt but might not change anything

[bronze moth]

since both need to do something

why is dmg on my bowman so lowww

[slim mantle]

probably archers neglected in alchemy, low move speed, talents neglected too

[bronze moth]

yeah

[slim mantle]

low speed even with the pots :p

[tender ocean]

up those base stats

[slim mantle]

I'm not candy'ing stats.... yet

[tender ocean]

the yet is good

[slim mantle]

wait till my sigils finish and hole is more progressed :p

and perhaps stamps are upped more

[tender ocean]

i think with your prints in 1h candy you can get enough lvls already

[slim mantle]

I wanna do it with rucksack for easier carrying so idk, more feels safer :p and anyway wanna finish sigils

[tender ocean]

whats your current print looking like or if you know what it might be if you didnt do a new one

[tender fable]

If it was me my movement speed would be 4554%

[slim mantle]

this one was prior to justice

[tender fable]

Mine is 97.1B/hr

[slim mantle]

ok

[tender ocean]

so maybe assuming you get like 100b from a 1h candy with rucksack now

thats more than enough

[slim mantle]

probably, I'm just lazy and use sigils as excuse :p

[tender ocean]

then you might like next week

for me its going to be a good bubo week

[slim mantle]

I shall make good use of it

sadly will need several such weeks

[tender ocean]

ngl some of them are unimportant and you can level them on downtime of cc

likke the early ones if you finish the late ones

[slim mantle]

but if I'm gonna cc a lot I wanna have them in cauldrons :p

[tender ocean]

yeah it might be a pick your poison thing, 6 chars in first 2 couldrons, and 5 in sigils or so

[slim mantle]

you already unlocked 11th char slot?

[tender ocean]

maybe soon

[slim mantle]

I'm very disappointed tbh that lava didn't update yesterday or atleast today to make up for it

[tender ocean]

you can click on 11th and 12th char and put them as invisible chars in sigils, they dont give any progress tho but fill a spot

[slim mantle]

oh damn wtf it's actually a thing

[tender ocean]

he didnt congratulate for christmas/new years too, idk, i just play with the thought we wont get an update anymore soon so a non happening weekly update is not as disappointing

[slim mantle]

we really just been needing caverns 11-15 release for weeks now

[tender ocean]

also multi and wish fix

[slim mantle]

and he needs downtime between it and 16-20 so the sooner he would have released it the better, take the break afterwards

[tender ocean]

atleast him saying it was intentional, thats good for me, then there is a reason behind it

[slim mantle]

only bright side of this drought is expanding afk hours on existing monuments

1000 more hours on justice and I'll have 10k on both

24k justice would be huge but fuck me man that's a lot of hours that I can't candy

[last karma]

[cold wraith]

im at 5k for bravery

[last karma]

[slim mantle]

and I suppose side bonus is no new fomo shop forcing me to spend gems so I can slowly afford opals

[cold wraith]

speaking of gems i bought a pristine charm is this good?

i would think so bc summoning is lowk busted

[slim mantle]

https://tenor.com/view/i-know-you-know-the-answer-you-know-it-answers-guess-what-ada-peter-stone-gif-14185162

[cold wraith]

ok it is good i got lucky there then

[last karma]

@tender oceanfound my new grind, getting log book to 72

[slim mantle]

prepared 0.1 min speed for it?

and leveled the fuck out of mutation? :p

[last karma]

not sure how others doing it

[tender ocean]

hm, i am currently pushing nugget to atleast 1b since i stopped that for some time

[last karma]

but im just stacking like 17 18 chems and getting 2 random plants in there to use them on

[slim mantle]

I want to get them but theres no way I'm gonna try for it currently, I did chems cuz harvest all doesn't touch them, I can't imagine trying for regulars

[last karma]

already got 1 T8

[last karma]

im on 65

[slim mantle]

that's how I got to t7's and some of them took a lot of tries

[last karma]

only had chem t8 just got first plant type to t8

[slim mantle]

64 here cuz of the chem

[last karma]

time for another try

[tender ocean]

ill maybe hop on if i get my 1b nugget

[last karma]

pray for cactus t8 here we go

[cold wraith]

44

[tender ocean]

depending on my activity over the weekend, i might get it there

[slim mantle]

gl, I'll try again once I manage to get my gaming further

wouldn't mind lava releasing some more farming crops to improve our gaming speed xD

[tender ocean]

but hopefully not more glassy seeds

[slim mantle]

would hope so but lets be realistic, lava would need to redo the ui if he added seeds so

[tender ocean]

it becomes kinda boring, but then his UI is not symmetrical anymore for farming crops

[slim mantle]

hmm shall I finally stop delaying and candy pearlers for 100k gcakes? :p

[tender ocean]

if you get a good pearler/candy ratio

[slim mantle]

define good :p

[tender ocean]

almost double

[slim mantle]

euhm...

[tender ocean]

42 is a pretty good ratio these days

[last karma]

dr?

[tender ocean]

only reason why i am waiting is to be more candy efficient in the future

[slim mantle]

idk where the fuck u expect me to get double this xD I don't have some of the afk gain sources u have

[slim mantle]

45x

hmm actually perhaps I can improve a bit with chips

[tender ocean]

in dms

[last karma]

got another plant

chad mushroom

[slim mantle]

gz

[zenith hare]

murder

[honest reef]

should i push to cavern 12 to prepare for update?

[slim mantle]

why not

I'm almost at 14

[quiet bridge]

Hey could someone direct me to the help for pet spice collection?

Struggling to find the link

Want to amp up my spice farming, just unlocked the hedgehog

[pure helm]

First pin.

[quiet bridge]

@pure helm thanks, I thought that was just for the combat

[pure helm]

Ya it goes into more detail for combat but the top part is harvesting.

[west ingot]

pretty early w3 here, and I feel like im blocked out right now due to not having money. Is there any method to get lots of coins fast?

[bronze moth]

what levels should my towers be to be able to defeat moonmoons properly?

[zenith hare]

1

to get first prayer

[slim mantle]

?? The pin has nothing about combat, only gathering

[latent bramble]

i should really do some TD on alt

[floral crest]

Money for food? You can use w2 food while you get money pushing w3

[waxen glacier]

Can you sample black lenses?

[west ingot]

i never said anything about food? I just need money for everything

[slim mantle]

The answer is just pushing worlds

[west ingot]

alright, I'm just really sucked into alchemy right now and want money to upgrade it a ton

[floral crest]

Still answers the question ig but all you need is a weapon+amarok gear to get by every world if u cba making new armors

[latent bramble]

You can ignore quite a few things for now
later worlds will give you plenty of money

[west ingot]

cant make amarok chest piece due to not having sewers because it takes many kills

[latent bramble]

you can get to w4 in copper now pretty easily too

[floral crest]

Place like 2 of them there and also make rings

[west ingot]

2 of what?

[pure helm]

Combat power ... I dont think tsars are all that useful for anything elce.

[slim mantle]

Ur alchemy will suck for a long time, thats normal. Pushing worlds gets u closer to the point u can start getting alchemy good. Also reaching w4 and reaching elite classes both give u some good coins for early game

[west ingot]

alright

does it matter what ring?

like is iron fine?

[slim mantle]

Thats still purely related to gathering... not to win the fights

[west ingot]

nvm im completely dry of iron

[floral crest]

2 characters in sewers also 2 rings like iron rings/serrated rings

[west ingot]

will elf rings work?

[pure helm]

Techicaly correct as normal. I just pointed the dude to the info I never cared about that skill.

[floral crest]

ye

[west ingot]

also when you say 2 characters for unlocking sewers will that portal unlock requirement be global?

[floral crest]

Nah just to farm it faster

U could be placing 1 and it would still be fine

[west ingot]

ill just throw my squire in there

i mean im sure money will start flowing once my deathnote gets done being built

[calm vault]

the w4 quests are pretty damn huge for coin btw

[west ingot]

damn

[calm vault]

dimentia might have been an exageration

[west ingot]

im just letting my character do their thing at this point and im just gonna farm roo and orion 😦

[calm vault]

but i remember it was really good relatively at the time

[cold helm]

best w4 map to farm crystals?

[bronze moth]

ehh that's debatable

[latent bramble]

i apaprently made an extra set and a half of amarok, but everyone ushed to w4 themselves

just a lot of slow lazy afk pushing

[inland vine]

Now that I'm into w3 should I be spending candies? I'm a bit overwhelmed there's so much to do

[bronze moth]

if you want to you can spend candies

[slim mantle]

I generally wouldn't use candy to push because it ends up getting u sooner to a point ur gonna need bonusses to progress past anyway so without candy progress feels more streamlined with less blockage feelings. Rather spend the candy on something better

[ember olive]

currently doing td at 181

[bronze moth]

yeah i spent my candy on w4 now I have none for skilling

[inland vine]

I was actually going to spend them on skilling lmao

[ember olive]

i need to get round 200

whats the build

[slim mantle]

Would considder that too early too. It's not a bad thing to save up candy until you know you get good value out of it

[inland vine]

Should I be ranking up my red salt to level 1 or using the almost 50 of them to upgrade buildings?

Also is there a clear guide to sampling/printing somewhere that I can use?

[slim mantle]

Always rank up red

For sampling, not sure what to send u, theres not much to it yet in w3

[hasty briar]

!GEAR

[candid scarab]

Gear Recommendations

[inland vine]

So I can't claim it until I have at least 50 ready to claim?

I have lots of upgrades waiting and 45 in the refinery waiting to be claimed

[slim mantle]

If 50 is max capacity for u right now then yes

[inland vine]

Bruh ok I'll wait then

[gusty goblet]

why am I capping at 5.35x drop rate

Hello?

[bronze moth]

does sb specialize in sailing

[inland vine]

Is there a way of using candies on the refinery?

[slim mantle]

There is no such cap

[inland vine]

That's a shame, was hoping to speed it up

[gusty goblet]

then why am I capping there?

[slim mantle]

You are just not doing anything to improve it

[inland vine]

What about alchemy? Any way to candy anything there?

[faint willow]

both alchemy and refinery can be speed up with class skills

[slim mantle]

Alchemy will suck until ur somewhere in w6 tbh

[faint willow]

but is not that much

not much early game at least

[faint willow]

i assume you are still in world e right?

world3*

[inland vine]

Just reached w3 today

[faint willow]

just focus on ranking up red for now i guess

it gets faster on w4, there is a bonus that makes refinery go 3 times faster

[slim mantle]

And more bonusses later. My red salts cycles are 36 seconds

[faint willow]

[empty mulch]

is it worth rushing W4 and then slowing down?

[orchid moth]

Bro I'm early in w4 so what should I do now ? I'm little confused

[white path]

talk to this npc and do his quests

[slim mantle]

make that w6 and u got a yes

[gusty goblet]

like look

[lethal nymph]

Best pet layout for spices?

[slim mantle]

top pin

[honest reef]

is this good to start dragon farming

[slim mantle]

tbh farming them even sucked at my stage :p

[tender ocean]

get the early levels but your mk is too low to grind it out

[honest reef]

can i onyx it?

[tender ocean]

y

[honest reef]

idk cuz onyx is good

[slim mantle]

it is but that statue is pain to farm :p

[honest reef]

ig i'll save it to like 25000% mk?

how many red gemstones is recommended to push m1 im currently at 10th floor

[lean perch]

So does the 2% printer everyday reward trigger from daily reset, or 24 hours from when I took a sample, or do I need to get to W5? I bought it on last day of holiday event and it didnt seem to work when daily reset striked

[slim mantle]

should be on daily reset but it's not that great of a bonus, hope u bought afk gain % and villager xp first atleast

[lean perch]

I bought afk gain then the printer

[slim mantle]

I had enough for the printer thing but instead saved the points for next event to get something actually good 😅

[lean perch]

I had exactly 45 points on last spin so I bought it

[lean perch]

Oh do the bonuses change everytime?

[slim mantle]

well it was only the second event with this system and it was different bonusses, last time it was tome based damage, daily stamp levels, daily bubble levels, equinox speed multi

[west ingot]

how good is shaman at pushing areas?

[slim mantle]

shaman is alright, fastest w3 pusher (when active) would be hunter

[lean perch]

Decent I'd use hunter if you have him

[west ingot]

hunter it is

[cold wraith]

i didnt get vil xp 💀

[slim mantle]

it's because hunter is the only one with an, albeit shitty one, respawn mechanic

[slim mantle]

did you have the points to afford it at any point?

[cold wraith]

yea

i asked like three times but no one answered so i just got printer

[slim mantle]

eww

[cold wraith]

im honestly fine at slower progression

i stopped rushing things

[slim mantle]

the printer thing is commically bad

[cold wraith]

eh

idc

[hasty briar]

!GEAR

[candid scarab]

Gear Recommendations

[cold wraith]

#bot-commands

[hasty briar]

@cold wraith thx

[summer needle]

I have 1574 gems, any recommendations on what i should buy as of rn?

[cold wraith]

depends on what you have

[summer needle]

What should i have since i am now late w4

[cold wraith]

do you have one richelin kitchen

[summer needle]

Nope

[cold wraith]

get one

youll use it for unlocking recipes

[summer needle]

I haven't touched the kitchen in god knows how long

[cold wraith]

doesnt matter it gives good bonuses later

you can also follow the recommended purchases in autoreview

[slim mantle]

completely ignoring any mechanics existance is never a good idea

[latent bramble]

i'll do it all i want with my alt

[slim mantle]

too bad I'm ignoring ur alts existance right now

[summer needle]

where can i find that? Cause that would be super helpful

[latent bramble]

!review

[candid scarab]

https://ieautoreview-scoli.pythonanywhere.com/ - Unofficial 3rd party site made by Scoli
If you need help, please use https://discord.com/channels/437797104786604034/1174753262365315203

[cold wraith]

if you go to unrated and click gem shop itll take you there

[last karma]

When update

[lethal nymph]

Anyway to make spices go faster?

[cold wraith]

higher pet levels and better lineups

[lethal nymph]

No skills or anything I can use? Like the one for archer where kills help the time for the forge

[cold wraith]

uh there is the one bm talent that gives higher pet power

and also active bm for more chances for eggs

im not that late into breeding so i dont know much later game methods

[slim mantle]

active bm with vman enhancement can speed up ur spices a bit but just that being ur goal is pretty much not worth it

[cold wraith]

what the dragon said

[slim mantle]

if u just want 1 specific one u could place whales in the territory below and above to speed that 1 up

[cold wraith]

what the dragon said

[lethal nymph]

It's because I just unlocked a spice and need to wait till the bar fills to get it for a new recipe

[slim mantle]

so just wait, it'll be there tomorrow or the day after or whenever it's done

[cold wraith]

true dat

[spare terrace]

wait once oyu unock the spice you dont need to wait to collect at least 1 to make meals with?

[cold wraith]

you do

[spare terrace]

oh okay, i thought i was doing it wrong this whole time'

[cold wraith]

no

[west ingot]

do i get gold stuff if im lacking defence in place of the chest piece and helmet

[slim mantle]

you mean ur lacking food

[cold wraith]

get amorak chest, gold/plat helmet and do roo

or owl i forgot which gives defence

food also important yea

[west ingot]

dont have sewers unlocked yet

[cold wraith]

@slim mantle you right cooking ramps up really quickly

i started at 17T today and im at 11QQQ

[slim mantle]

ur still surprised when I'm right? :p

[cold wraith]

yep

[slim mantle]

[cold wraith]

its a rare occurance so i gotta note it down

[west ingot]

just any food?

[slim mantle]

https://tenor.com/view/who-are-you-huh-offended-what-disgusted-gif-6242692732870591861

[cold wraith]

ones that heal you for your hp

[cold wraith]

am i wrong

[wind hamlet]

Oh thank goodness

[cold wraith]

yea i didnt realize

but as you unlock new foods and get them to lv 11 it gives you even more speed to level past plates to 30

and if you keep upgrading cooking speed foods and cabbage itll boost vman talent bonus more

[lapis seal]

when is next choco chip?

[cold wraith]

the 16th? i believe

[slim mantle]

those specific foods aren't related to vman talent, vman talent is litterally any and all meals

[cold wraith]

yea im just saying they just keep scaling on each other

honestly not as much as i wouldve expected

[cold wraith]

shh

[lapis seal]

what are good teams for early-mid breeding

[cold wraith]

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/u/0/d/193tGCv_nJpgleOzQ2jkO9KEpSh8JcOZLdjDolD9Z0FI/htmlview

[native lintel]

hemmm...... instant QQQ

Q or QQQ

[cold wraith]

QQQ

since Q is quadrillion, QQQ is sextillion

the numbers dont roll over until the 5th digit so it stays at QQ until 9999 then rolls over into QQQ as 10QQQ

[wind hamlet]

this "cover the platform with worm tails" quest is ehhhh

Is there a good way to do it without making it hard to see with all the coins

[cold wraith]

just auto attack and turn autoloot off

[wind hamlet]

yeah Ive been doing that

[cold wraith]

itll complete itself eventually

[wind hamlet]

Is there not a drop item limit

[cold wraith]

nope

[wind hamlet]

huh

[cold wraith]

the only limit is drops last 1 hr then disappear

[wind hamlet]

Dont mind if I do then

that explains that.

[cold wraith]

thats why active starts to get annoying with classes like es cus it just lags so bad

[daring falcon]

So I'm creating an 8th class. I have one of every class at the moment. Which new class should I get?

[echo radish]

dk es sb are the 3 u want 2 of rn, i'd prio dk

[daring falcon]

Ok awesome! Im just curious, how come dk? What would the benefit be? Crystal farming, or mining? I'm still trying to learn about this game since there's so much to remember haha

[echo radish]

construction

[daring falcon]

Oooooooh gotcha

[echo radish]

so u have 2 dks instead of one on board

[daring falcon]

Ok cool! Thanks for the help

[echo radish]

2 is much better then 1

[astral lava]

Hey Ludwig

[echo radish]

hey display to nothing

[astral lava]

I just passed the leeks map finally

[echo radish]

very huge

[smoky void]

wait till you get to sky doggies

[astral lava]

I wanna go there fast cuz of the recipes

[astral lava]

There is another account wide requirement????

[smoky void]

yeah im stuck on end spice level lmao

[astral lava]

[uneven obsidian]

sky doggie is the 9lock

[smoky void]

like leeks its instead of 5 its 10 locks

and the spice level is 505t and pain in the ass

[astral lava]

https://tenor.com/view/whhyyyy-vanish-vanish-emoji-emoji-vanish-whhhyyyy-gif-10057259719602444514

[smoky void]

end up doing so much spam and then you just get wiped

[astral lava]

And I just beat that mama troll territory yesterday

[west ingot]

3rd fractal

[smoky void]

yeah its hard

[astral lava]

All these last 3 are hard

Anyway... Today I unlocked the next pet to bop box

In breeding

[sinful mirage]

hey guys is the speed on the worship skulls the charge rate and if so is that the charge rate itself or does the speed correlate to a charge rate

[astral lava]

Meaning that I can now get shiny of the last infinity starsign

[astral lava]

25% charge per day isn't 25% of ur maximum capacity

It adds

That's what I understood

Did you ask for this or something else?

[smoky void]

you have p-eapod yet?

[astral lava]

Nah, that's too far

I wish I have it

[smoky void]

its the ? in purple the first one

[sinful mirage]

im trying to understand where base charge rate comes from

[astral lava]

What.

[astral lava]

Then I'ma have it by tomorrow

[astral lava]

Base charge comes from the skull

[sinful mirage]

ok and its the speed rating on the skull?

or is part of it worship power

[smoky void]

you can check your daily worship gain from your skill

[slate parrot]

cooking, b4 using ladles, is there anything i shld do, like any cards to equip, prayers to use, lab or some hole bonus or anything at all

[silent harness]

I got a question, how much acc do i need to 100% world 3 boss? (Wiki says 1.8k but i think its outdated cause the map monsters need 2k)

[echo radish]

nope wiki is right

[cold wraith]

yea people say if you can reach world boss you can beat it for a reason (except maybe w5)

[west ingot]

does anyone elses game randomly white screen?

[cold wraith]

mine goes randomly black on web

[wind hamlet]

any day now

nevermind I died.

[random zodiac]

What is the number of kills for the death note for bosses? It does not give that on the wiki.

[stray ember]

Did anyone elses christmas event come back?

[mighty aspen]

hello i am about to reach w3, which character should be the main pusher for unlocking w4

[stray ember]

Mine was shaman but the char you got the most dmg on usually should be the one you push with. Then have the others catch up as you go

[echo radish]

for active hunter is the best, but wizard and barb are very good too

[crude ocean]

I'm in w3 should I get amarok for everyone or get the platinum set

[echo radish]

!gear

[candid scarab]

Gear Recommendations

[wind hamlet]

so is this by the time you enter said world

[crude ocean]

I see thanks pal

[echo radish]

wrong order lmao

[mighty aspen]

i used hunter to push to w3 but it seemed weak. im struggling with damage and accuracy not really respawns. working on the global buffs but they are slow

and the push is mainly afk

would afk pushing use someone else

[echo radish]

well yes, probably barb but i'm not 100% sure about that it could be bowman

[mighty aspen]

i was told barb should be mainly fishing. is there a target fishing level i can stop fishing with him?

[echo radish]

the main strenght of hunter is his active talent that makes enemies respawn faster, so if ur doing afk pushing there is no point in using him

[mighty aspen]

yes i know thats why i mentioned i dont reeally need the faster respawns

[echo radish]

idk about that, after u have ur p3d printer setup and evrything you shouldnt be skilling at all really

[mighty aspen]

i think the specific advice was to start fishing early. i assume it unlocks something at a level?

[echo radish]

oh ye right it unlocks the islands at level 30

forgot about that sorry, when i pushed it wasnt a thing

[mighty aspen]

ah good to know. i balloned to 16 and im at 27 now so i should be good to go when i reach w3 (tmrw?)

[mighty aspen]

what would be the benefit of barb for push vs bowman

[echo radish]

ngl i dont remember why

i just remember them being good

[raven mist]

what islands are worth unlocking first? like the ones past w2 fishing

[tribal sparrow]

garbage-shimmer-sea salt- crystal-

[ebon tapir]

how do i get the star talent that gives me samples for the 3d printer

[echo radish]

From the third quest of the w3 town npc

Aka hoggindaz

[rain scroll]

hi guys

[raven mist]

are there any other good sources of defense rather than armor and fmj? finding it hard to push w4 when you need 1.5k+ defense for no dmg

[knotty falcon]

I feel like at some point trying to push for no dmg is just not feasible, food gets the job done.

[tribal sparrow]

are u active pushing?

[raven mist]

not atm

im tryna get to elite class trainer

[rain scroll]

soon!!

[raven mist]

although im tryna get dementia rn

[rain scroll]

will take around 4 hours or maybe 5

[tribal sparrow]

can only use all foods on all slot and w1 goblet.

[raven mist]

alr

[tribal sparrow]

and if ur problem are gennies. can only kill them from afar

a lot of microing

[sonic violet]

Is there a more up-to-date version of Cogtimizer or maybe a similar tool? Preferably one that accounts for Excogia?

'cause this is what it generated just now, and I get the feeling I could probably squeeze a bit more out of my cogs if it would incorporate the Excogia bonuses.

[tribal sparrow]

i think its possible to make one big circle on that black ones

[sonic violet]

Yeah, the big cog is called Excogia. The pic is just what the Cogtimizer web-page generated.

[frank gull]

Try this set up

All exp. Diag and horizontal cogs. Have exp bonuses

[sonic violet]

What's the reasoning behind only using two characters? I get that DK is good for construction but wouldn't it be better to have more characters out?

[tribal sparrow]

moar exp.

[frank gull]

Its my vman. I just want to get more cons lvl. My vman way behind

You can adjust it if you want. Put one more horizontal cog. Remove the 2nd char slot

Eventually. Your other char. Will get lots of cons exp. Even placed on generating cogs slots

[tribal sparrow]

i think those white cogs not hitting ur dks

wasted dk potential

seems like not all exp too.

[sonic violet]

I've been slowly upgrading/replacing my cogs for a while now, and only realized how much I should be prioritizing exp relatively recently.

[wind hamlet]

yeah Im seeing why now too

[indigo stratus]

Why do i get atoms even though it's turned off?

[ionic drift]

be happy!

[rain scroll]

any resource that goes over 1050m gets converted to atoms whether u want or not

if its in a single stack

[indigo stratus]

Oh sweet.. i have copper and oak logs printing

[twin bay]

is it even worth it to get plague stricken above level 56

oh hi keith

[dusty apex]

depends on your stage of the game, i maxed it out cause why not, got the points to spare anyway. if you are limited in point use there are better options to focus first

[magic haven]

Is there any reason to active fighting since the event is over?

[west ingot]

Auto review says to do achievements, are achievements worth doing?

[covert wigeon]

what damage is recommended for pushing world 4

[tall harness]

if u are early game and ur afk gains are way under 100% then ig yes

[tall harness]

they give nice bonuses on their own also later bit multi for gaming, probably there is more, but if u are early game going out of ur way to do them migh not be the best choice

[devout ore]

Why does everyone put their chars top left

[runic coral]

no one knows

[thorny kelp]

im new in world 4 and i cant figure out how to unlock the first grassland pets do i have to do a other quest before? bec i got the quest from gobo to fight, im lvl 8 in breeding and unlocked the pig what else do i need to be able to unlock to fight the grass gang

[tribal sparrow]

I honestly prefer top right after doing left. Ease of changing characters onto cogs production but too exhausting to change the setup.

[thorny kelp]

PLS i need help im stuck there since a few days

[magic haven]

what is afk gains where to see it

and i feel like active fighting never drop the rare drops

[magic haven]

yeah but where does it say afk gains 100%?

like the efficency?

[tribal sparrow]

First grassland? U mean w1 first pet?

[thorny kelp]

yea it is locked

[thick lark]

I'm on rift 17 right now, how do I get a lava skull?

[astral lava]

Use ES or SB

Don't kill all the mobs

Skulls spread half the time meaning that it's 50% chance for the skull to get 1 tier higher and switch to another mob

[thick lark]

Ok thank you

[thorny kelp]

how do i unlock the first one

[tall harness]

u can't click fight?

[thorny kelp]

i do but then ...

[tall harness]

drag pets into free spaces in the front

[thorny kelp]

damn

thanks my dumb ass is stoopid or sm sht

[indigo stratus]

Guys, is there like a good pattern for the Catching Machine or do you just use what you need at that time

[tall harness]

u mean traps or what?

[indigo stratus]

ya

[astral lava]

!trapchart

[candid scarab]

Created by ..someone

[astral lava]

U choose critters for what u need

[indigo stratus]

i thought there was like one setup for every critter so you dont run out of them for salts and like the tower/tool stuff

[white lintel]

Silk skin traps

[smoky void]

i think you only need scorps and mousey for salts

[indigo stratus]

and froggies too for construction, not sure what else atm out of my head

and then crafting of course

[fluid yew]

I'm currently in mid world 5, when should i start leveling up lab?

I'm giving more attention to divinity rn but i feel like lab needs some love too

[pseudo pumice]

Just got the dreamer damage star talent from equinox but it is only showing on one character, is that a bug??

[deep wigeon]

how do i get a mega crit?

[slim mantle]

Try cloudsaving

[foggy gate]

There hasn't been a single update all year

[slim mantle]

U need a star talent from the vip library and over 100% crit rate

[deep wigeon]

hmm ok, so gotta wait with that star then

[somber sparrow]

is 10% mob respawn pendant fine on DK? just got too world 4 also

[foggy gate]

u can craft this later, also respawn is a worthless stat for DKs becaues they instantly respawn everything once no mobs are alive anymore

unless ur dk is afk farming then mob respawn is always good

[somber sparrow]

ty yeah had a feeling it was not that good, ill put it on an afk farmer

[foggy gate]

mob respawn becomes the most important stat for afk kills later on when ur afk% is super high but for active u mainly want it on your archers

[hollow cosmos]

Does pet power go up with the further pet I've unlocked?

Like would wooden boards get a higher range of possible power over carrotman?

Or is every pet have the same possible range of power?

[zenith hare]

no

it only goes up with breeding level, higher rarity egg, and bm talent

[hollow cosmos]

So the stuff that affects next pet chance doesn't affect the power either right? (except egg rarity as you said)

[zenith hare]

yup

[worn raptor]

Last lamp wish is w6? Stealth farming etc

[fickle sphinx]

guys, how to get shiny pets?

just breed with a low chance?

[latent bramble]

get 40 breeding, buy upgrade, select pet, select shiny in the bottom left, breed

[fickle sphinx]

oh lol i have to click!

thank you

[ripe light]

How do you light up 1st bonus in light ecxperiment

[robust marsh]

What do you do with those balls?

Can anyone help me

[hoary pebble]

You use them to boost a maxed arcade purchase.

[robust marsh]

Can you explain a bit more pls

[hoary pebble]

Once oneof those purchases you've got showing in your image is at max level, you use one of those balls to boost its effect further

[worn raptor]

with blue balls you up to x2

[robust marsh]

Thanks for the help strangers I was wondering what that was

[worn raptor]

not bad

[slim mantle]

also it costs 5 of them for that upgrade, so ur 2 are useless

[worn raptor]

actually last wish?

hell na

this is so op

[robust marsh]

[hasty bay]

Do 2 blood berserkers stack for apocalyose chow? I have 2 of them fully maxed, but it doesn't look like having 2 of them increases the cooking speed.

[grim lodge]

!merits3

!merit3

[candid scarab]

1️⃣ One point into Telekinetic Storage which has an ability to deposit all items in your inventory into the chest while destroying everything on the ground. This is a great quality of life feature. Skip this if you have the ram companion.
2️⃣ Buy until you have 3 building spots and 3 food slots. This can be between 0 and 2 purchases depending on gem shop purchases. Food slots will help your pusher go faster and 3 building spots is a 50% construction speed boost.
3️⃣ Talent levels are hugely important and the library should be used as much as possible.
4️⃣ The 3D printer will be how you get most of you skilling materials in the future. To make good use of it you need your sample size to be as close to the 90% cap as possible.
5️⃣ Buy the rest. More slots = more better.
6️⃣ Leveling telekinetic storage gives up to +13.6% Carry Cap which is good for afking longer, stamps and crafting, but is not a priority early on.
7️⃣ You won't get enough points to consider buying respawn for a long time by which you will have cleared all W3 portals.
Get the first level when you reach rank 3 on orange salt and get another level each time a new salt reaches rank 3.
⚔️ The last recipe is for the Chizoars Caustic Scarf which is best in slot for a long time giving both damage and respawn. Get this when you can complete the associated task of beating Chizoar with 8 characters. Other recipes are for Chizoar gear. The helmet gives +15% damage and can be considered if you are making purple salt. The other pieces are mediocre but some make the chestplate for 3% damage.

[grim lodge]

!merit4

[candid scarab]

1️⃣ Buy one point of spice spillage. This gives you up to a 20% chance to claim all your spices when claiming over an hour of afk gains. Since spices generate more slowly the more you have produced since last claim this will improve spice production.
2️⃣ Having more bubbles get upgraded each day will help a lot, especially when combined with buffs giving more levels per bubble. Only buy this if you can reach the No Bubble Left Behind node in the lab.
3️⃣ Egg capacity is limited and every time the hatchery fills up eggs are wasted until you unlock the rarity upgrade. Also helps you get two achievements with good rewards requiring egg capacity.
4️⃣ Allows you to connect to lab bonuses from slightly farther away which can reduce the number of characters needed in the lab. Note that the max distance between characters, which is called line width, doesn't increase.
5️⃣ Improves kills per hour in W4 but since you likely won't be pushing W4 portals for long this is relatively low priority.
6️⃣ Max level spice spillage triggers every time. They are lower priority since it takes a lot of star talent points and is likely to trigger several times in a row when checking multiple characters.
7️⃣ 3 crystal mobs per day is very little.
Unlocks the recipes for troll armor giving all stat% and the base for all further armor upgrades. It is great but require plenty of Nullo Salt. Don't buy it if you can't craft them.

[fallen crescent]

it only counts for the 2nd bb

[fossil hatch]

Not bad indeed

[frozen stirrup]

Hello, those pink pets are only for pet chance right?, they have nothing to do with damage

[indigo stratus]

[fossil hatch]

[indigo stratus]

Yeah just next pet chance

[fossil hatch]

If your doing more then one command, do it here https://discord.com/channels/437797104786604034/596275211872108544

: )

[indigo stratus]

: (

[cold wraith]

do i use es or dk for bullseye in wood mushroom

[fossil hatch]

Es

[cold wraith]

is it worth waiting for w6/dragon statue before depositing all mys tatues

[fossil hatch]

That’s gonna be awhile

[cold wraith]

hm ok

[fossil hatch]

At your progression

You can definitely wait

You’d get insane value if you’ve held off for awhile. But, it’s gonna take a minute ☠️

[cold wraith]

aight ion mind waiting

im js going to stick all the statues into dk inv

[ebon kiln]

how do I get to 100% uptime on sb's flag? 9 seconds of cooldown once it expires

[eternal apex]

does the gold pocketwatch also pushes 1 day for the respawn time of mini bossess? world 3 4 and 5 ones

[tribal sparrow]

GG. how long does w3 takes?

[cold wraith]

too long

maybe a week or a lil bit longer

2 weeks? idr

[tribal sparrow]

per statue?

[cold wraith]

i think it was like 4 days of active per statue

[latent bramble]

just wait for more DR

[cold wraith]

i dont have many options atm for more dr

[tribal sparrow]

shesh whats ur es dr?

[cold wraith]

15.56

im going to do rift after for vial mastery then resample vman to get the last vials i need for 100% snake vial

[tribal sparrow]

i only need 6 more vials. dunno what more efficient farming with es for vial mats or print with vman and farm statue for es. been postponing farming w3 and eye statue for a while now.

[latent bramble]

think i waited till i was around 20-30x because I was annoyed at how slow it was at 15x

[cold wraith]

idk what im going to active after finishing these onyx

[slim mantle]

beanstalk stacks

[cold wraith]

oh

[slim mantle]

my beanstalk stil lrequires me to do colo

[latent bramble]

and then CC, statues to 150-200, more CC, breeding, more CC, gs statues

[cold wraith]

nah

[slim mantle]

wdym nah? he's right

[latent bramble]

i'll finish them one day

w1 statues to 200 are pretty easy

[slim mantle]

my collection of stamps I hope NSLB to trigger so I can max stamps in auto review

souls and bugs I can easily get enough but not the carry capacity, monster mats I just don't want to bother and gold food I could but I don't wanna xD

[latent bramble]

I got my matty bag up to 410 today, don't think I can go any higher manually

actually maybe one more

[slim mantle]

not sure, 410 is the upper limit displayed in auto review

I say that while seeing chopping bag cost (95% off but 0% on the other oneà being 58b carrots, that's a bit more than I want to farm :p

[latent bramble]

i think 410 was 73 bags

[slim mantle]

and alchemy for auto review is a few weeks more of atom clicks to be maxed, once alchemy and stamps are done I'll be 29/29 maxed 😄

[astral lava]

When doing tome calculations, does the game collects the data in account-wide view or selects only 1 character (best one) and on that character view tome is set?

Meaning: when it checks my best ever drop rate out of all my characters, (e.g. 9th got the highest), will it have to check the 9th character's tome requirements like most caps held in inv that have been done on that character?

Or can 1 be best at like drop rate and other at fastest time to kill Efuant?

[latent bramble]

depends on the challenge, some will take active character, some will take highest achieved

[dense egret]

What should I buy in the skull shop?

[cold wraith]

@latent bramble

which stat obols should i get a full set of

im thinking of str and wis but are getting luck, sword, xp, and agility worth it too

[latent bramble]

I believe full base stat is a very minor increase over skill power at endgame levels, can probably ask @swift lily. I'd probably just make one of each for slab atm and trash everything else until you've rerolled all your DR obols and other skill ones

[cold wraith]

wait rerolling skill obols does something?

no way

i rerolled like 20 times but no new stat so i just stopped

no way you can i just got hella unlucky

[ashen kettle]

Oop wrong chat

[latent bramble]

Depends on where you're at in the game. Books are useful if you still need the 1k checkout achievement, crystals are nichely useful if you're trying to farm recipes from w5/6 miniboss, arcade balls are always nice. white pearls are still okay, I think, for pushing levels

[dense egret]

W3

[latent bramble]

think they need to be plat or sparkle to get the misc effect that can reroll, otherwise it'll just add base stats to it. can't remember if power can be rerolled

[latent bramble]

Didn't quite catch your question but hopefully this will explain it
https://i.imgur.com/1knhjig.png

[cold wraith]

i just tried construction obols and i can reroll them

rip frags but ill work on that while i get bullseye statues

[ebon kiln]

I always assumed either dr or skilling obols were worth it and base stats weren't

[ashen kettle]

Thx i know dis i was asking abt the connection between artics and goharut

[cold wraith]

thats what i assumed

[latent bramble]

It doesn't work how you want it to

[ashen kettle]

Yeah

I figured 😭

[latent bramble]

Like I mentioned earlier, I believe base stats will barely pull ahead at very late stage. I wonder if it might be slightly better now with the big inflation of mining/catching efficiency we get from W5 Hole monuments not sure

[deep wigeon]

any tips on how to do this?

[ebon kiln]

knight on bottom, higher orb level

[slim mantle]

Base stat obols are much easier to get and more versetaille in use. Needless to say I got all stat obols and deleted the skill ones xd

[hexed shoal]

I hit the 35m but i still cant beat kruk any tips?

Is it becuase attack speed?

[deep wigeon]

u could try to get chizoar armor

[deep wigeon]

reset talents and bought books to increase some talents now its just annoyingly close...

[pure helm]

Try useing the boss damage constellation, check boss damage stamp, book some AoE abilitys. There is a low dam kruk specific set up around too but it shouldn't be that different.

[latent bramble]

https://i.imgur.com/XuiAidw.png

[pure helm]

Would you look at that.

[deep wigeon]

sooo close

less go got 212

[hexed shoal]

.

Wrong ping mb

[latent bramble]

no books in tab 4 except the one that you don't really want it in atm

[deep wigeon]

put some books into first 3 on tab 4

[latent bramble]

throw some points in tab 3 flasks too, tab 1 overclocked energy is a nice boost, too

[deep wigeon]

if i put lets sayy, 4 characters into rift will this be done 4x faster or is it induvidual

[robust elm]

Yeh 4x faster

Any claimed afk kills in rift count for that and it's an account wide counter

[deep wigeon]

ok, is it recomended to put 8 dudes in to be done with it in 30min?

[keen parcel]

Did you use movemenspeed pots?

[deep wigeon]

ye had 3 move speed and 3 dmg, but got it after a few tries, just needed some luck with the slashes

[keen parcel]

Depending if yhey get similar kills yes4x faster

I had 1 char that usally did alot more kills then the rest afk

[deep wigeon]

well bb usually best for afk fighting right?

[formal ledge]

a lil help, I don't know why I am missing a couple distance here

stuck at 1505

[deep wigeon]

just keep killing

[keen parcel]

Last bit is hardest

Try getting kills top left

[upbeat raven]

does wisdom affect lab efficency?

[latent bramble]

very minorly

you'll notice it early on and then it quickly becomes lost in the sea of your other efficiency bonuses

[upbeat raven]

alrght, ty

[errant laurel]

Best thing to print as begginer?

[upbeat raven]

monster mats for refinery

[mossy urchin]

Guys I want to make my other character get their new class and I always used my barbarian to push through worlds and now my other characters don't have enough accuracy (even with cards) I wanna reset my squire stats to start killing mobs again someone tell me where to put stats?

[latent bramble]

your accuracy stat

[mossy urchin]

My library says I can't obtain the book

[latent bramble]

Ahh, talking about books? Just all your damage stuff then
Base stat level increases come from your tab 3/4 talents (of your main stat) and vman tab 4 talents (for all stats)

[fallen ridge]

do roo, or upgrade alchemy and stamps for accuracy

[latent bramble]

If you're in w4, apply w4 upgrade stones while on a mage to guarantee +wis

[empty mulch]

why cant i fight?

[pure helm]

place pets in the slots.

[empty mulch]

how? i click but nothing happens

OHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH

[pure helm]

there is two circles right there.

[empty mulch]

ty

[pure helm]

Heh they do blend in a bit.

[empty mulch]

i thought i had to put pets into the square slots before this screen, and they would automatically go into battle so iwas confused

[torpid acorn]

is there a checklist for easy to get statues for this quest?

[slim mantle]

ofc not, u just go grab 17 statues out of storage lol

[torpid acorn]

i always put em in the lad

should i be keeping some out as a buffer?

[slim mantle]

ur gonna want to save them up for onyx statues anyway

[torpid acorn]

aight

[slim mantle]

and u can go kil la crystal mob in every world, lots of statues done quick and easy

[torpid acorn]

should i be continuing my push to W5 or should i do this now?

[slim mantle]

w5

[torpid acorn]

alr

is there anything in W5 like W4 where i just immedietly do something that isnt just the town skills?

[cold wraith]

hole

not much to do in there but doesnt hurt to get started as soon as you can

[torpid acorn]

ok, ill find where it is once im there. should take about a week for my final two pushes

[slim mantle]

divinity

[cold wraith]

he said not town skills

[torpid acorn]

how far is hole from town?

[slim mantle]

quick reading mid cs2 game be like :p

[cold wraith]

3rd map i think

[cold wraith]

says the dragon who claims to always be right

[torpid acorn]

alr thats not that bad, ill push immedietly

[slim mantle]

??? ur full afk?

[torpid acorn]

ive been activeing with my DK

[cold wraith]

lol

[latent bramble]

pretty sure you can just tp to hole once you get to w5 town. that's what new folks have said

but a lot of it is also just afk time gated stuff, too

[slim mantle]

I never said always, I keep poining out that ur surprised when it's the case as per usual as it is the case most of the time 🙂

[torpid acorn]

about 3200 kph on afk so active is probably more

[slim mantle]

all of w4 took me 1 week only with es

[cold wraith]

mhm

[torpid acorn]

damn, i was told to push with DK

[cold wraith]

you can scale dmg fasterw ith es and yuo need less dmg to beat kruk than dk

[slim mantle]

it's not that dk is bad but he is an inferior early game pusher to es

[torpid acorn]

should i be pushing W5 with ES?

[slim mantle]

if u can survive I do recommend it

[latent bramble]

ES or DK are normally the go-to

[torpid acorn]

nah hes my 6th char lmao lad is ass

[latent bramble]

ES gets damage a bit easier, DK survives a bit easier

[slim mantle]

quite a bit more dmg tbh and lower dmg requirements, better respawn mechanic and aoe in early game at the very least

[cold wraith]

is dk better for w2 dungeon?

[slim mantle]

main importance: doesn't care about map layout while dk can get fucked over royally by map

dk = dungeon guy.

[cold wraith]

ok

im doing it on es but its sucky

[slim mantle]

ye hes shit at dungeons

[cold wraith]

how many times do ineed to kill the snake dude

[slim mantle]

I mean, what do u need?

[cold wraith]

eq dream

[slim mantle]

yes and what does eq dream say

[cold wraith]

ion know im in a dungeon rn

[cold wraith]

stop

[swift lily]

Yeah don't bother with base stat obols, the skilling ones are better when sampling

[latent bramble]

ah, was that the consensus, couldn't remember
thanks

[swift lily]

You can get +stats that way which help samples. No skill power for circles and squared however

And the hexagons and sparkles are better left with slush and kruk so not useful

[cold wraith]

ohh ok

ill just get blue and purple for slab

[slim mantle]

thats what I did, make skilling obols for slab, insta delete after checking slab

[cold wraith]

igh cool

[deep wigeon]

whats best map to farm these?

[latent bramble]

the 2nd alchemy tab

so wherever you CC

[limber musk]

any w3 map drops them, but your best bet midgame is wherever you get most kph

[latent bramble]

w3 mobs drop first liquid, not dense water

[deep wigeon]

so no mob drops em like the other one in w3

[latent bramble]

dense water is from a single w4 quest (task master) and the alchemy tab shop

[supple coral]

only can get them from shop in alch

[deep wigeon]

well yeez, gonna be expensive getting like the 500+ i need

[white path]

buy a few daily

[deep wigeon]

is there a thingy to make the price not FLY up so fast?

atleast its not the liquid i use the most that buys it, barley got anything else to use that one for

[zenith hare]

murder

[rancid ridge]

I just buy 2x of both gem offers and 5 of each of the liquids daily

Then I just buy the 90% discount thing twice and put rest into liquid rate.

[faint willow]

is this most kills during a wormhole or does this stack like infinite over time?

[slim mantle]

stacks

[faint willow]

lol

[slim mantle]

as do the dk and sb ones

[indigo stratus]

does total meal level include level 1 meals?

[slim mantle]

yes but u need quite some levels for the talent to become good

[faint willow]

does wormhole work while inactive afk or does it have to be active?

[deep wigeon]

active

[slim mantle]

all respawn mechanics work active only

[faint willow]

good to know

[grim grotto]

anybody still need the dance in W4 achievement?

[deep wigeon]

u can just press auto fight and start watching a movie tho🤷‍♂️

[deep wigeon]

yes

[grim grotto]

I'm in peanut 9

time to dance

[deep wigeon]

we need 3 more ppl tho right?

[grim grotto]

yup

[faint willow]

im kinda building for afk to farm splicer + deathnote in w1, ill probably reset talents after for some active play, since i need to farm for breeding and i need to level up my multikill to keep up with refinery