midgame-chat-w3🧊w4🔮

[simple fable]

Does flaggy rate get dicvided between flags?

[slim mantle]

no

[visual gyro]

Beans are best for crit dmg statue?

[slim mantle]

you can't farm those statues

[visual gyro]

Huh

[slim mantle]

they're not in any loottable

[visual gyro]

Shit

[slim mantle]

you basically get them from quests or leveling up

[visual gyro]

They are on the trophy shop but I don't have enough reeeee

[slim mantle]

just do the quest, 2x quest = onyx

[visual gyro]

Which one

[slim mantle]

the one that gives u onyx quests :p after the power statues it asks to collect 100k statues, that quest

[cold wraith]

is it worth buying out those statues with trophies

[visual gyro]

Okey

[tough moth]

how did this guy get to w4 boss? 💀

[slim mantle]

really worth? probably not, I did it tho since u don't usually get extras of them :p

[cold wraith]

what else would i save/buy then

i dont really touch weeklyboss so ion know what things show up

[slim mantle]

probably just a bug, sometimes u also see somebody fishing randomly on a mob map, even seen screenshots of people seeing one of their own characters doing so

[tough moth]

oh gotcha, ty

[slim mantle]

slab items, stopwatches

[polar bane]

do all in one run

[cold wraith]

oh ok

i wont buy them then

[cold wraith]

wait golden or silver stopwatches

[slim mantle]

u can chose, both show up :p

[cold wraith]

i see golden right now

[knotty falcon]

Hey, does the divinity progress for other skills via afk gain round up the way bravery does?

[slim mantle]

not every week is the same options

[cold wraith]

ik

[knotty falcon]

Because it seems to work for minutes, but 1hr X minutes shows up as 1hr

[zenith hare]

tbh so far on soul charm, I could've done mask with it

I have 8 life blood after white defender

[zenith hare]

bravery doesn't round up

and no the extra claim times also don't actually round up, they only visual do so

[knotty falcon]

It does? 1 hr 20 minutes is just 1hr

[zenith hare]

that's rounding down

[knotty falcon]

Ah, my bad, I meant just rounding.

[zenith hare]

the actual time is still triggered, it just visually rounds

[knotty falcon]

I see, thanks.

[tough moth]

Any idea where can i find builds? i'm still doing what i feel is best for the 4th class

[fallen crescent]

its time, i forgot this existed for a while

[zenith hare]

there is no one defined build for a class, it's highly dependant on your account

[fallen crescent]

what should i focus on increasing this time

[zenith hare]

whatever you find

[obtuse whale]

is it worth stopping afk at justtice to reach rift 56? im at rift 49 currently

i saw at wiki that its all 5m kills to reach rift56 so it will take time

[fallen crescent]

if you just let your bb take care of that while you have your other characters at justice, its fine

[obtuse whale]

it says "afk"

[zenith hare]

yeah would've done shell at same time if I turned it on, never dropped below 5 masks lost

[fallen crescent]

yes, let your bb afk there and get the kills overtime

[zenith hare]

bb is the best afk kph class

[obtuse whale]

i havent really geared up my bubo so i dont know

[zenith hare]

bb isn't bubo

blood barbarian

[obtuse whale]

and i dont really do active afk that much so thats why

[zenith hare]

well beserker, but eh

[obtuse whale]

ok

[zenith hare]

no bb is the best game is closed kph

[obtuse whale]

havent fix my bb equipment too 😄

[zenith hare]

just give him ur dks equipment

he's afk at a monument anyways

[calm vault]

im tired boss

[slim mantle]

soon it'll start getting faster

mine ranks up in 7 hours 15 minutes total at this point so I start going faster and faster decently quick now :p

sometimes with omni procs I run out of gmush cuz I also click bubbles with them 😅

[olive mist]

huh, is the checkout for Overaccurate Crit bugged?

[slim mantle]

let me gues, ur not getting any books? if so, you have books filtered

[olive mist]

o

finally, mega crit

[marble silo]

i just got here and i'm overwhelmed. do i just aim for world 4?

[olive mist]

where exactly?

[white path]

if u just got to w3 talk to the ice cream npc, he teaches u the basics

[marble silo]

looks like i have to wait for 24 hours. i guess i'm gonna try getting silver tools at the meantime

[olive mist]

get some plat tools if you can, meanwhile try out the dungeons

[marble silo]

that's going to take a week or two at least as i havent reached the lvl for mining plat

fishing and catching are also abysmally low so idk. i'm not using the classes for their skill bonuses and i'm not sure if its worth it at this point?

[olive mist]

the sooner the better, and I assume you're using only 1 talent preset?

[marble silo]

yes i am , i didn't know i could do more than one

[olive mist]

due to the limit of the talent points, it's best to dedicate one preset to mob farming and another to skill resource gathering

[fickle radish]

so..question. the lab. wat?

aka, it seems very overwhelming and I don't really know where to start

I allocated a bunch of people to it. left my bb cooking cuz he sucks the least at that, and now do I just..let it go? try to un-fuck my alchemy and let it level up?

do I have life goals? D:

[pine fiber]

how do you guys farm keys for chizoar? is that even a thing like kruk key farm @ tremor?

[lofty spire]

any advice on pet battle not just crashing around wave 150~ tried keeping my badum to 1000 and it was still super slow, can you hide attacks?

[steady cove]

High Performance mode hides most attacks

[lofty spire]

oh how weird, i had high performance on but all my attacks were showing

[steady cove]

My whale was about 1.8m or more when I finished. It will complete and take forever as long as you don't have flashy or alchemic (can't remember which) open yet.

SOME attacks will still show, shields, and certain basic attacks, and if your sandy pot converts stuff it will show for a second. Are you on steam or browser?

[lofty spire]

steam!

[steady cove]

Mine ran smooth on Firefox shockingly enough

[lofty spire]

ah yeah it was fists and shields LOL

oo ill try that tomorrow

[steady cove]

I hit wave 202 and quit. Took like 5 hours because I only had 10k pet power lol

BUT it was flawless without flashy

[dense egret]

I'm in W3 and have no idea what to do someone tell me what I should be doing

[vestal ether]

My ES really sucks damage wise, especially compared to my DK. Is there a way I can buff it or do i need to wait till w5 before it gets better?

[vestal ether]

From what I've learned in this discord, always push. Also, don't be like me and neglect salts and sampling. I would also not let your salts outpace each other. Essentially, your red one should always be going.

[vestal ether]

It's also not a bad time to start gathering multikills but i think that should come naturally without really pushing for it.

[fallen ridge]

strange, for me it's the exact opposite: my ESs have good damage, and my DKs deal something like 1/2 compared to them

[dense egret]

I'm trying but it's so slow I get like 700kills an hour afk

[steady cove]

Level up your gear, skip the special sets and grab the 'next generic' set up. Weapons first.

[vestal ether]

Yeah... maybe don't focus on that as much? Is your alchemy good? That's a huge buff, especially later on. Also, which class are you using and are they optimized?

[vestal ether]

Have you gotten to w5?

[dense egret]

Squire idk wth it means to be optimized

[vestal ether]

Um, like, youre putting points into the right talents, using the best cards and sets and star signs, and the right gear (so at w3 amarok should still be okay)

!gear

[candid scarab]

Gear Recommendations

[fallen ridge]

I'm early W6, but it always as been like this DKs dealt "no damage" compared to ESs

[vestal ether]

Ah dip. Well, maybe you have more stamps and not many refinery ranks? Idk. I don't know how to properly buff my ES.

[dense egret]

I'm just having problems with my accuracy my dmg is pretty alright for now

[vestal ether]

There are cards and star signs for accuracy. Also, for squire make sure you're maxing WIS.

Are you following the talent guide thingy?

[fallen ridge]

bubo was always a little higher than DK, SBs same and BB was a little lower than ES until he went doing zows in W4 and now has the same damage as my highest ES with cattle wand and kruk armor, while he has dementia armor and diabolic stick

[dense egret]

I used the build website that pops up at the top when searching on google

[fallen ridge]

I am missing 2 stamps from W5 due to being sailing gated and I have some from W6, refinery rank is something like 51

[vestal ether]

Yeah, i still have tundra weapons 🥲 my trapping and worship ain't so good. F frigid souls.

[vestal ether]

Idk which that is. There's one on here that most use. Should like this (sorta)

[fallen ridge]

I remember getting locked by frigid too, but as soon as I had enough to craft one or two weapons I could farm them kinda easily

[vestal ether]

Out of curiosity, how did different weapons help? My towers aren't great.

[fallen ridge]

weapons doesn't help at all, but while I farmed frigid I has upgrading towers and I went from wave 10 to 30-40

[vestal ether]

That reminds me, also make sure you're building all the time. Towers, shrines, etc. Worship stuff becomes important for crafting. And make sure you're trapping and moving through the different creatures.

[vestal ether]

Ugh. Okay. I think i might need to follow a guide cause I've leveled up my towers a lot but not gotten far.

[dense egret]

I'm kinda doing them but im waiting till I get my wizard for worship

[vestal ether]

Ah. I mean. It's weird, but the archer is actually better at summoning/ tower defense.

It makes no sense but yeah. They have an ability to push/hold that's really useful

[fallen ridge]

hunter is usually better since it has kick, root, and it multiattacks
wiz (for helping) has only tornado

[rain scroll]

hunter best for tower defence

[cloud flicker]

real

[fallen ridge]

of course wiz usually gets more souls due to having higher efficiency

[vestal ether]

Experts that just came in, can you tell me my why my ES sucks butt?

[dense egret]

But the prayers r useless until I get a wizard

[rain scroll]

low level,bad gear ig or overall account progression

[dense egret]

Skill issue

[vestal ether]

Not really? They're used in crafting.

[dense egret]

I don't see any in my anvil that require then

[vestal ether]

What anvil do you have?

You get alot at III

[dense egret]

I'm still at 2

[fallen ridge]

prayers are buffs (and debuffs) that u get from worship, but u don't need them to do worship, to do that u need towers which come from construction

[vestal ether]

Ah. I mean, if you unlock the worship stuff in unlocks, there's that, but yeah, there's a lot in 3.

[rain scroll]

then why r u saying to him skill issue if ur behind him

[dense egret]

The 3s crafting materials are just ridiculous compared to the previous tab

[bronze moth]

nah not rlly

[dense egret]

Chill out dude it's a joke

[vestal ether]

Just a joke i think 😅

[rain scroll]

well u wont like seeing things after anvil 3 it gets ridiculous at anvil 4 and beyond

esp salt wise

[vestal ether]

I can't even craft 4 cause my worship sucks

[rain scroll]

its okay i crafted 4 at w5 end or smthn

u dont need anvil 4 anyways its too hard to craft any stuff there

once u want to do some less imp things u can work on anvil 4 and etc

[bronze moth]

i can't even get desert souls ;9

[fallen ridge]

anvil 3 stuff is still in range of doable while u are in W3, anvil 4 in W4 is like selling a kidney

[dense egret]

So it's atleast something I can get

[vestal ether]

Mood. My root souls aren't saving progress in worship.

@rain scroll can you check my ES?

[dense egret]

I'm still struggling to keep my refinery going I keep having to get spore caps every few hours

[bronze moth]

rn i paused pushing w4 to focus on getting skilling up to date (and alchemy)

[vestal ether]

Make sure you sample them. That way you don't have to do anything. Most refinery stuff should come from samples

[fallen ridge]

start printing them it's the only way

[dense egret]

The sample rate sucks rn it's like 14 spore caps per hour for my most leveled character

[bronze moth]

I ALMOST HAVE AUTOMATION ARMM

[rain scroll]

show

[rain scroll]

w3 souls are a pain

[vestal ether]

It's in IE under my username but i can show too

[rain scroll]

for a long time

[rain scroll]

send link

[vestal ether]

https://elixane.idleonefficiency.com/

[vestal ether]

Things that helped me was making sure i had the right cards (fighting afk gain, drop rate, etc.), signs (mob respawn) and leveling sample sizes (thru stamps, merits, and the talent).

[rain scroll]

what is wrong with ur es what does it not do? @vestal ether

[dense egret]

Ill try to get it up but probably not gonna have it automated for like a few more days atleast

[fallen ridge]

the real problem is alchemy

[vestal ether]

Kill. My kills/hr suck compared to my DK

[vestal ether]

Shhh... don't look at that.

[bronze moth]

lmao

[rain scroll]

can u send me pic of afk menu

[fallen ridge]

NOOOO

[rain scroll]

the one where it shows afk rate

[vestal ether]

Yeah, it comes with time.

[fallen ridge]

don't start sigils

[sand pasture]

I have a question about the lab. The "No bubble left behind" upgrade, can be activated only in the moment of the day reset and obtain the free bubbles, or does it have to be activated the 24 hours to count for the free bubbles?

[vestal ether]

Ugh. Yeah, it's really slowed down so I've been meaning to switch them back to cauldrons

[rain scroll]

show ur afk kills/h menu

[fallen ridge]

it actives at your daily reset, or as soon as u log in after that

[vestal ether]

Sorry, was switching between devices

[rain scroll]

how much does ur dk get?

[fallen ridge]

u just need to worry about logging in once a day and u are good

[vestal ether]

Question, if someone, say, stupidly bought the sacred methods pack, hypothetically, how would they see that bubble level increase?

[sand pasture]

Yes but I mean. I dont want to have a character on the lab all day only to get this upgrade. Can I put it on the lab just 5 minutes on the day reset and then put it AFK in another site and obtain the free bubbles? Or it has to be all day on the lab

[rain scroll]

it says +.. and bubble photo

when u login on daily reset

[dense egret]

Is there a way to get unlimited map teleports or smth like that

[vestal ether]

Um, it's lvl 160 rn, but at the time when they were about equal on the same map it got about 1k more

[rain scroll]

maybe ur dk had more dmg or so?

also dk is better at active

[vestal ether]

So what is my ES, missing damage wise?

[rain scroll]

than es

how much dmg does it have?

[fallen ridge]

I don't think it checks if there was a char to keep that node on all daylong, so if u can put it 5m before it should work

[vestal ether]

This is the part that sucks cause the portal thing only works active.

[rain scroll]

book these

[sand pasture]

Great , thank you!

[rain scroll]

that gives good dmg

[dense egret]

?

[fallen ridge]

I don't think is worth though since if don't reach NBLB u probably won't get the x3 refinery speed buff

[rain scroll]

also better to do mana skill rather than 100 on afk

its pretty useless tbh 50 is enough

it scales very badly

[vestal ether]

More so than wis equip talent?

[rain scroll]

reset and max wis and put remaining in mp

[vestal ether]

Noted

[rain scroll]

cuz the mana overdrive skill scales with mana power 10

this

also u can upgrade stamps

[vestal ether]

Where is this skill?

[rain scroll]

do the ones thats cheap for u

[fallen ridge]

the one which seems ice crystals in tab 1

[vestal ether]

I've been saving up for another kitchen but I'll invest.

[vestal ether]

Got it! Sorry. Ty you all, my friend yelling at me to leave so i gtg. Ty!!!

[rain scroll]

bye

[merry mica]

Is anyone able to help me with killing the w1 dungeon boss lvl4 for the equinox dream i just can't seem to get enough damage out

[bronze moth]

my dk's kph on gelatinous cubes is only 1k 😭

[hexed shoal]

Maybe your acruacy is low damage hp maybe even cards defense

[bronze moth]

my acc is 100% but i do only have 130k dmg

def is at like 800

[slim mantle]

Low dmg, low move speed, low afk gains and no killer brightside. 1000 sounds about right

[bronze moth]

i do have killer brightside so i'm suspecting it's probably both low dmg, low move spd and low afk gains

[hexed shoal]

You probably dont have 150% acruacy

[bronze moth]

yeah

[hexed shoal]

Get more acruacy by upgrading your gear with a mage class that should help

Also can we see your shaq?

[slim mantle]

1000 is rlly low with killer brightside

[bronze moth]

yeah it's probably damage and move speed and afk gains

[hexed shoal]

Oof work on that shaq

Also fmj

Can we see how much acruacy your dk has?

[hexed shoal]

Damn no wonder you get 1k

You need 1.5x the acruacy for your squire bonus

[slim mantle]

Early game es just so much better xd

[bronze moth]

yeahh

[hexed shoal]

Fr

Talking about es mine just got to lvl 242 and im at this map now

Time to farm time candies

[slim mantle]

Slacker

Mine killed kruk at lvl 180. Let me ignore the fact that clickers added xp gain since then

[bronze moth]

imma focus on leveling shaquracy

[hexed shoal]

Yeah if i wasnt here since owl i would prolly be at lvl 180-200

Cuase the amount of exp owl gives is insane

[slim mantle]

Not much to focus. U just get what u print, do not leave lab to go skilling

[hexed shoal]

I left divinity to go skilling ngl i regret it a bit

[slim mantle]

U should regret it a lot

[hexed shoal]

Mostly left divinity for farming shaq and meals tho

[hexed shoal]

I dont regret it much cuase i was lvling up my bubo chop which was at lvl 1 chop

[slim mantle]

Meals? U went cooking with the garbage ladle rate u got in w5? Massive regrets is what u should have

[astral lava]

I think I was at LV 300 when I killed Kruk

Bruh

[slim mantle]

Few candies and back to lab/div

[slim mantle]

Slacker xd

[astral lava]

I was over prepared

[slim mantle]

Aka slacking

[astral lava]

I left w4 with void gear

[slim mantle]

... I stand by it, you don't need void at any point

[astral lava]

Andy main with chizoar armour

[slim mantle]

Imagine not using amarok in w4..

[bronze moth]

real

[astral lava]

Why jumping from Amarok to troll armour when you get in the way void armour?

[astral lava]

I wanted stats more than defense

[bronze moth]

ok imma put my ppl back into lab

[hexed shoal]

Imagine not using amarok at all

[slim mantle]

Can go to dementia in w5 if u feel like it. Anything more is just wasting ur time getting gear u don't need

[bronze moth]

problem is my bloach prints are abysmal

[slim mantle]

Thats normal early on. Ur shaq is not a bad level for the time being

[astral lava]

I am now mid w6, I was talking Abt what I got in the past

[hexed shoal]

You have the wired in node?

[bronze moth]

yes

[slim mantle]

Yeah and im pointing out why its bad

[hexed shoal]

Then that doubles your prints

[bronze moth]

i should probably sample with fishing food

[astral lava]

Welp, anyway

[hexed shoal]

Ngl crafting gear is important at w6

Anything below w6 is basically just stik to amarok and dementia if you want

[slim mantle]

W6 u wanna make troll, so void still not needed

[hexed shoal]

Ill probably go to w6 with chizoar

[slim mantle]

Noob

[hexed shoal]

My priotrity in w6 is probably getting more smith lvls and making anvile tab 4

[slim mantle]

Don't have tab 4 yet? Smh

[hexed shoal]

I probably wont even push w6 lmao ill focus on skilling till i feel ready

[bronze moth]

i was grinding to plat tools

[slim mantle]

Ur not supposed to push w6 inmediatly anyway. Shit scales hard

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/670013436431958052/1238556380324171776/nEAn4GK.png?ex=67738d44&is=67723bc4&hm=04a95065880442485206dcc475f67c84786a7217ee05648cfc8fcb93c324b11a&

[hexed shoal]

Plat tools? Pfft those are easy

[slim mantle]

@bronze moth use this for fishing samples

[hexed shoal]

If i had high smithing lvls i would prolly be at void by now on everything

[slim mantle]

Smithing levels are easy

Just craft some boost food xd

[hexed shoal]

I can do that but all i have is 100 distilled water lmao

And yes i buy 5 daily

[bronze moth]

where does the elephant and blue thing drop

[hexed shoal]

Probably a quest or effuant drop

[bronze moth]

oh wait

the trench ring is from this

[hexed shoal]

Well goodluck fishing w6 fish

[bronze moth]

😭

[hexed shoal]

Its from seasalt island and efficiency for it is hard early fishing

[slim mantle]

Drops in w3. Ez

[hexed shoal]

Ik it does

[bronze moth]

plat twine only drops in w5, and elephant twine involves doing loominadi quests which is doable but I can't get the deepwater trench ring because of the quests

[hexed shoal]

But im a lazy ass slacker Xd

[slim mantle]

Just use an alternative when u don't have the optimal

[hexed shoal]

For bloaches you could use anything that increases red depth chance or fish speed

Wait blaoches were purple

[slim mantle]

Just an important note is which pond to sample at for which fish

[hexed shoal]

Occido how do i get morr then 8k kph on this map?

[slim mantle]

By fighting actively

But if u insist on afk u could always try if speed pots make a difference for ya

[vestal ether]

Does cooking lvl affect the chance of getting ladles?

[slim mantle]

It gives like 0.05% skill efficiency per level... the chance it makes any difference in ur ladle gains is not 0 but damn close to 0

[vestal ether]

Ugh. Okay. I really need some cause i accidently canceled new recipe instead of finish

[hexed shoal]

I have decent and big pots

[slim mantle]

Early on u just wait the time... its not worth afk'ing in the kitchen until way later

[hexed shoal]

Currently getting 8.7k an hr

[slim mantle]

8.7k an hour afk in w5 is not bad

[vestal ether]

Ugh. Okay. I just really need pizza before this chip disappears.

[slim mantle]

U have a few days still before rotation changes

[vestal ether]

Also, for oinkin, the diner deliverer quest, is it bugged? Like, i can only make progress on one character (increase egg capacity, etc) not the others

[slim mantle]

U can, u just need to upgrade anything and it will see its completed

[bronze moth]

i had balance of precision

[hexed shoal]

Currently everything im using rn

[bronze moth]

this is my current kph

[slim mantle]

@vestal ether any breeding upgrade. Just put 1 level into it on the character with the quest and it will see oh the requirements of my quest are the required level: complete

[hexed shoal]

Get 13.5k acruacy for squire bonus

[bronze moth]

yeah i'm gonna get that

i almost have enough for chaotic amarok pendant so that'll kinda help when i upg it on a mage

[hexed shoal]

@slim mantle anything to change?

[bronze moth]

with potent speed potion it does go up by 60

but yeah dmg and acc

[hexed shoal]

@bronze moth can you show your talents on dk?

[slim mantle]

Too lazy to go through it all and check ur alternative options 😅

[hexed shoal]

Put one point into the divine intervention talent and 1 point into symbols of beyond

So reset and put one into each of them

Rest can go to desciple or orb or imbued shockwaves

[bronze moth]

got it

[hexed shoal]

Also mega daggerang is not worth it early game only helps with active farm

[hexed shoal]

Put points into precision power talent and dont put into master or balanced soul

Also 50 points into afk brawling

[bronze moth]

the amt of kills got a bit lower, it did increase on earlier maps so i'm just losing out on accuracy probably

new talents (with reset potion)

[eternal agate]

https://buffedthehead.idleonefficiency.com/world-3/construction trying to make salts not awful is impossible, lol

[bronze moth]

I NEED THISSS

[bronze moth]

like on maps when i had 1.5x accuracy it gave me 2k kph

[slim mantle]

lower maps also have lower hp (thus less dmg needed) and can have differnt amount of mobs and respawn times

[bronze moth]

i need 13.95k to get 1.5x accuracy on this map (i'm probably going to aim for like 15k or 20k)

[vocal path]

I’ve recently unlocked the 6 advanced classes in world 4. But feeling a bit overwhelmed, should I still be AFKing mining on my BB for example, or do I want to focus on the more specialized stuff like fishing or even afking at Cooking?

[slim mantle]

lab

[bronze moth]

1 more fricking distilled water

also i am so close to unlocking trapper drone

[pure helm]

There is a point where you do less things. You barb is still a fisher but you just print fish on them rather than afking there. Thats the flow of this game things are a struggle then are easy then are passive.

[floral crest]

I'd rather you just print stuff for alchemy like FMJ/Shaquracy and other useful stuff you like and put them in lab so you can choose 1 character (preferably if active ES/DK or afk BB) for pushing

[upbeat quest]

what is the max evolution cycles a plant can go through

i was thinking of how often i should check the gaming gasrden when cat guy is on

[latent bramble]

Initially you have 4 stages unlocked (base stage being the first), later on you can unlock 3 more from Gaming superbits and 1 from W6 Jade Emporium

If you've just start and have the mutations tab unlocked, just harvest as often as possible to roll for mutations faster

[upbeat quest]

Im sorry i meant how many times a sprout can evolve?

[keen dirge]

When should I make a journeyman

[waxen imp]

I made him my 10th character and I'm glad I did.
A few of the quests that eventually get him to Voidwalker can be brutal if you get a Journeyman too early. Such as ||1 million Death Note Kills on every stage W1-W4||

[keen dirge]

Ok tysm

[zenith hare]

10th is too far, 8/9th fair, 7th is too early

and it's only w1-3 mobs

which you can easily do by mid w5 time

even without w6 cards

[latent bramble]

did you read my first sentence?

[zenith hare]

cant you get t8?

and base max is t5

[latent bramble]

base is counted as t1

[zenith hare]

so yeah t5 is base max

[latent bramble]

I mean if you want to believe that, sure
You get 4 when you start (base + 3)
You unlock 3 from superbits
You unlock 1 from Jade Emporium
8 evos with 9 plants = 72 total evos which matches with the logbook

Here are the three in superbits

[zenith hare]

8 tiers or 8 evos

[latent bramble]

I call tier and evo the same thing

I think all in-game text just says evo

[zenith hare]

my brain is currently fried tbh

was doing the thing i just sent in general in the other server

[upbeat quest]

im sorry when you said tier i thought you meant the types of plants and that confused me alot

but i got it though thanks

[latent bramble]

Those are mutations

[upbeat quest]

big words too much for brain

[idle kernel]

Hi all, I'm a bit confused about the talent book library. When I try to check out the 4th or 5th books, I can hit the "checkout talent book" button, and 5 checkouts are subtracted, but I don't see any books dropping on the ground. Am I missing something obvious?

[latent bramble]

5 being subtracted sounds like a star talent book, did you put them on your item filter?

[idle kernel]

I'm talking about American tipper and overaccurate crit books, under VIP Membership.

[latent bramble]

Yep, star talent books. Check your item filter under Codex > Cards > Filter

[idle kernel]

Oh wow, I'm an idiot... oh well, that's one way to waste checkouts.

I didn't know you could filter those out as well.

thanks @latent bramble , much appreciated.

[hexed shoal]

Best classes to fo this guy on?

Alrdy did on es and dk

[viral shadow]

Help me 😭

[latent bramble]

probably SB

[neat sapphire]

Hey y’all! 👋 Can anybody here please help me defeat W3 dungeon boss for equinox? I can’t seem to kill him in time. I’m at server Baloon 1 it anyone is so kind 🙏🏼

[viral shadow]

is there anyway to make worship easy?that shi is so hard

[leaden glacier]

level up ur towers in construction maybe

also the archer subclass has a skill
i forgot which 1 but it can trap the mobs in place
the 1 that specialises in trapping

[leaden glacier]

oh ye the boulder rollers a good tower to use
combo it with a bunch of party starters that are built for speed and ye

[white lintel]

I don’t like your pfp

[leaden glacier]

whats so wrong with it :DDD

[high lake]

guys how do i do the first rift challange with which char should i do it and what equip is the minimum i should have bc i cant get the 500 kills

[leaden glacier]

elemental sorcerer might be good for it i think

[high lake]

i alr tried it with him i one shot them but still idk what the problem is

[white lintel]

DK is also an option, that’s what I did

[leaden glacier]

dk might be a better option ngl
i used es cuz was my main

[white lintel]

You’ll need to boost move speed and some other weird things if you’re one shotting and not getting it tho

DK is my goat

[leaden glacier]

es has meteors

[uncut pier]

how do i get my printer sample % up? there's the star book obviously, then there's the prayer, what else ups %, i'm at 60% ish on all my characters but I don't know where I even got that from lol, I was trying to work on not having to use the prayer for the exp loss

[white lintel]

I love ES but too much lag

[leaden glacier]

the absolute destruction u cause with es is amazing

[pure helm]

!insight

[candid scarab]

https://idleoninsight.com/ - 3rd party site made by Corbeno

[leaden glacier]

when u dont lag out ofc

[high lake]

do you still know what stats you had ca.

[leaden glacier]

oh ye es also has portals

well the portal

[pure helm]

Portal mobs probably dont count. Use another class.

[leaden glacier]

idk if it works in the rift but prolly does i think idk

[hexed shoal]

Problem is es needs nasa pc xD

[hexed shoal]

Portal mobs dont count for normal portal they only spawn normal mobs

[leaden glacier]

aw

[uncut pier]

ty, i didn't have the snow slurry vial just unlocked and almost maxed it out for an extra like 15% so that got me significantly closer

[high lake]

does the way my talents are placed in order also play a role with my dk

[white lintel]

The respawning is more important tho than a screen wide dmg bc if it takes too long to respawn everything you won’t make it

[pure helm]

ikr thats the best resource

[white lintel]

Ca?

[high lake]

i thought its universal for proximatly

[white lintel]

Not as much as like bubo, but yes

[leaden glacier]

true
technically the portals respawn mobs so either way portal go brrr

[hexed shoal]

Arctis what classes do i use for this big guy?

Already done on es and dk

Tried on my bubo but failed miserably

[weary trail]

Sb bb and es

That’s the easiest to do it on

[white lintel]

Anyone with enough dmg, just try it on everyone

[high lake]

whats the best way to up my mov speed on my dk bc i just needed 70 kills but i only have 117% mov. speed thats prolly the problem

[white lintel]

Pots

[weary trail]

Speed pots

[white lintel]

Your move speed is abysmal

[high lake]

i coompletely forgot abt those thx

[slim mantle]

I believe they do count in rift, anyway es is an aoe machine, I did those rifts in 2 min with es instead of utilising the full 5 min

[slim mantle]

es respawn mechanic is litterally better than dk so what do you mean?

[white lintel]

He said ES didn’t work and I wasn’t talking about that I was talking about meteor

[pure helm]

Oof then that is a big damage issue.

[slim mantle]

if es isn't working for it dk isn't going to either, you better figure out why his es isn't working so he can fix it :p

dk is much slower at it as he needs to run after all the mobs and actually kill each and every single one of them to respawn them

[zenith hare]

murder

[slim mantle]

odds are talent distribution is an issue tbh

[forest remnant]

Any1 know how to fix autosort and auto deposit not showingqs an option in my storage

[slim mantle]

u mean it shows like this?

you see that "storage info" at the bottom? click it

well, time I get to crafting, would do more at once but I may be low on resources cuz hourly clicking 😅

[indigo stratus]

This gonna take a damn long time to become thousand.. went from 83.4m to 141m in 8 hrs

[echo radish]

Cringe hourly clicker spotted

[slim mantle]

how else u think I've been catching up?

[slim mantle]

equinox wants u to kill 100b

[echo radish]

U can't say that with ur dr smh

[sterile root]

hello, i got into world 4 recently and i'm not sure how i should spec my siegbreaker's talents. idleon toolbox has nothing for it

[slim mantle]

bish I don't have keychain doubler or dr cape ok

[indigo stratus]

Might aswell.. money and unlocks

[echo radish]

No keychain doubler is vile, how far away are you from completing chips then

[slim mantle]

it just takes forever

[slim mantle]

the ones without a number are the ones I don't have at all

waiting for this

[indigo stratus]

Oooo 20 choco chips next year

[slim mantle]

20? o.o

[indigo stratus]

Throughout the year yeah ^~^

I'm after the bottom right card doubler though

[echo radish]

I can't judge, I'm also not done with chips

[astral lava]

Thats... That's really amazing

[slim mantle]

that's a lot, I had to chip gamba for mine cuz there was like idk, 8 months? none at all

[slim mantle]

give me all ur stock

[echo radish]

Btw I have a 4th all stat hat, just thought putting in a red boaty was cooler

[echo radish]

Nah u should aim higher, aim for someone who is done with chips

[slim mantle]

speaking of (fuck me doing this quickly ruined my crafting ) look what I finally got today

[echo radish]

Very very pog

[astral lava]

You got 1 slab

[astral lava]

I remember getting this like 1 years ago

[echo radish]

No he got the best hat in the game, it gives +1million all stat

[astral lava]

HAH, I wish

[slim mantle]

I would have prefered I got a balljoepickle or a stamp but beggars can't be chosers I gues

[astral lava]

I also remember getting balljoepickle 2 years ago

[slim mantle]

I was originally saving up my balls but I'm trying to max out this villager xp multi before update and double it

[slim mantle]

damn noobs getting all the rare stuff

[echo radish]

So u have till Thursday

[astral lava]

Well, I was a noob back then

[echo radish]

I'm not noob

[slim mantle]

yeah, 3 or 4 levels left to go, out of balls right now

[slim mantle]

trying to tell me ur not today?

[echo radish]

Was
Am
Back then
Right now

[slim mantle]

u don't have doot, it balanced out

[astral lava]

I am not noob, I am noob lv 3

[slim mantle]

https://tenor.com/view/watchout-badass-neildegrassetyson-gif-5031973

[astral lava]

https://tenor.com/view/chicken-gif-11078744543061587590

[echo radish]

https://tenor.com/view/fried-chicken-chicken-fried-cooking-pan-gif-3377398

[weary trail]

Speaking of while I was in w3 I got doot

[echo radish]

Yet ur dr still sucks

[wild dagger]

Hi guys
How can i unlock it for all of my players
Should i do the full quest

[weary trail]

In construction upgrade the building

[wild dagger]

Okay
Thanks

Is the building speed the same when i have one building or more

[slim mantle]

btw I'll soon ish get my 100k cake stack done, got the ghosts and like 22k pearlers, just have to candy the pearlers I gues

[astral lava]

Btw what does (ish not lsh) means?

I see it alot these days and still didn't understand it fully

[weary trail]

Ish means about

[echo radish]

More or less I'd say

[astral lava]

So "maybe"

[echo radish]

Like saying I have 40ish cats means around 40 cats, more or less 40 cats

[slim mantle]

that looks like u wrote Lsh while it's ish (used different capitalisation so you see the difference)

[echo radish]

That's just a u problem tbh

[slim mantle]

it would change the meaning and just not make sense, gotta correct the mistake

[astral lava]

Depends on the english font you have set

[slim mantle]

normal people don't go around changing the font

[astral lava]

Also (for me) l have a little curve at its bottm

[astral lava]

Idk if it would be noticeable at first glance or not

[slim mantle]

it's not, I litterally never even noticed that until you just pointed it out cuz it's that tiny and focusing that hard on a small bit of screen just hurts my eyes

[astral lava]

lily Iily liIy lily IiIy

[weary trail]

Il

[robust elm]

I just go with the context clues and if it doesn't make sense I look harder. If I read fast I might read it wrong if there's no context (like someone's name) or I don't know the word yet

[astral lava]

We all do this unconsciously

[slim mantle]

I mean it made no sense to be capitalised and not being capitalised it would have been an L which just doesn't fit

[pure helm]

All? These chats exist.

[weary trail]

Subconsciously☝️🤓

[robust elm]

Mobile keyboards do that sometimes. Especially when we go back to remove a typo / add something.

Whiops sorry replied to wrong guy

[astral lava]

Np np

[slim mantle]

it does it at the start of a sentence, it was in the middle

[robust elm]

Was supposed to go to occido

[robust elm]

The keyboard doesn't know where it is in the sentence. It just reads the last symbol and if it's typo it might guess wrong.

[slim mantle]

If there is not a . And a space to indicate the start of a sentence I have not known any phone to capitalise automatically.this was written by me on mobile, not touching the button to capitalise and using both examples

[fast bane]

how do we complet this dream ? Do we need like 20 item with green in his name ?

[slim mantle]

20 different items in a stack of atleast 10 million

[weary trail]

Once you get 10 million of one item at green stacks and you need 20

[fast bane]

so I need 20 item stack over 10million ?

[weary trail]

Yea

[slim mantle]

yes, different items, you can't use 2 stacks of 10 mil each of the same

equinox also wants you to get 70 or 75 not sure anymore which and 200 down the line

[white path]

75

[slim mantle]

first batch crafted, second batch of equal quantity started

[round heron]

Is there much of a reason to level the actual cooking skill other than to generate ladles slightly faster?

[slim mantle]

the chance of you actually generating more ladles thanks to cooking levels is very close to 0 btw :p but yes there is a reason, 2 actually. main one is skill mastery and the second is that it's just a few extra account skill levels that help the measurer bonus for bravery in the hole

[light vine]

I just got lvl 2 pet giving me 4 infinite star signs, but don't see any changes. What do I need to do to "activate" them?

[slim mantle]

changing map might do the trick but probably needs a cloud save

[light vine]

Welp, cloud save did it. But I'm only got 3 signs instead of 4. Maybe I got the one on top but doesn't show because I haven't previously discovered? I read, a long time ago, that unlocking them first wasn't needed

[slim mantle]

you indeed can't see it but that one did get hit by infinite starsigns as they go in fixed order and you will need to unlock it if you want it to be infinite

(you can unlock every starsign btw, you get enough points)

[dusty apex]

its also used for more money

[slim mantle]

true, forgot about that one

[void arrow]

are there any suggested classes/approaches to use for rift to get lava skulls

[slim mantle]

es and sb are good

as both are pretty decent at killing but won't kill everything at once

[indigo stratus]

Is this good enough to start being active on bubo?

[marsh nova]

Yes

[indigo stratus]

Yay \0/ time to overflow cauldrons finally

[icy sand]

When should I start the lab?

[indigo stratus]

Immediately upon reaching w4 and have one guy pushing the maps to w5

[icy sand]

So all my characters except one in the lab?

[indigo stratus]

Yes

[icy sand]

Until?

[indigo stratus]

You want to unlock w5 and do div jail until you get a god that'll let you level lab and div st the same time.

Until you can reach all the nodes..

[icy sand]

So just have the resources I need in the 3d printer and the characters in the lab until I get to w5?

[indigo stratus]

Yes

[icy sand]

Okay thank you

[indigo stratus]

You get a god called arctis in w5 that allows your lab to be active without needing them in the lab.

[icy sand]

Are the lab buffs strong enough to help me push?

[indigo stratus]

Absolutely! But the strong ones come with a few levels

You get things like 2x prints, faster salts, and double stamps (except misc)

[icy sand]

Okay thank you

[olive viper]

somewhat in the same boat as hjöönk (already being in w5 and div jail tho). when do i want to push acc lvl higher to get more chars? currently at 943acc lvl

wont be getting anytime soon to 1100 with only pusher getting lvls

[weary trail]

You can easily get your 10th character by pushing your characters through world five but just push one for now

[olive viper]

just wondering when is the best time to catch up in lvl? want to get 9th char soonish to help div/lab jail, no?

[latent bramble]

if you've got bear unlocked then feel free to rotate people out for levels/pushing

[olive viper]

thats what i was assuming. thx a lot!

[torpid acorn]

is it feasable or worth it to do rift?

the moment i reached it ofc

[latent bramble]

usually not

the first 2 bonuses aren't super important so it's fine to skip it and come back, usually around mid-w5

[torpid acorn]

thanks O7

[slim mantle]

Doesn't really hurt to give it a try tbh

[olive viper]

if you rushed through worlds you probably wont be able to do r6 if you didnt keep up with gear + a lot of alch/stamps

at least i cant do it with 4 chars

im mid w5

[slim mantle]

Then u got something wrong. Mid w5 u can definatly do that

[torpid acorn]

did a little calc and right now i can only do 250 kills in 5 minutes, theres no tutorial on this though so i still need to look around if theres a gimmick\

i need 500

[slim mantle]

Take es, kill shit, ez xd

[torpid acorn]

es has high kill rates?

[olive viper]

once i reached w4 i went directly into lab jail. once i reached w5 i went into div jail. so i didnt farm a lot of mats besides pushing

so stamps are definitely lacking

[slim mantle]

Yes. Es scales amazingly in early game and has a great respawn ability and map wide aoe to kill everything it respawns

[olive viper]

so is gear on my non pushing chars

[slim mantle]

U can just move gear between characters

[torpid acorn]

oh damn. mine is really bad since hes my second last char. whats the build for kph?

talent build

i would probably need to make the lad a wand too but im sure i have some stuff

[slim mantle]

You make it sound like going afk. It's an active class. U go active on it, spawn a portal, kill portal mobs, those make sure the regular mobs also respawn. Big gains

[torpid acorn]

portal mobs?

oh yeah lol i found it

man i have not touched the talents of es

gimme a sec to move something irl

[slim mantle]

So u want portal to have a somewhat decent uptime so u can kill enough portal mobs. Rest u want aoe skills, most importantly radiant chainbolt and the lightning one. And the normal attack creates certain talents one is great too

Portal mobs increase in hp the more u kill so find somewhat a balance for ur current strength

[hexed shoal]

After some adjustments i make it to 11.5k kph on fire spirit map

[slim mantle]

W6 when?

[hexed shoal]

Soon just gotta find some time candies to speed up the 390k kills

[slim mantle]

Or just active grind for like a day

[hexed shoal]

The lag and my phone would explode

Its 34hrs or less till next map anyways

[bronze moth]

for me it's 23 hrs till next map

[slim mantle]

Filter all the drops and lock ur phones screen (assuming u can, not sure about other phones but my samsungs could do that)

[bronze moth]

my daily reset times are somehow fricked

[slim mantle]

It can change somehow with desync. Not sure how it works exactly

Mine moved from noon to like 2 or 3 am somewhere but hasn't really moved since

[hexed shoal]

Coins

[slim mantle]

I know but they're despawning at some point, surely they are not that bad for u. Any desync time is just given back to u in afk time format anyway

[hexed shoal]

Anyways occido am i ready for kattlekruk?

[slim mantle]

Whats ur dmg

[uneven oriole]

Is there a guide to the talents i should prioritize for every class?

[north sun]

in w3 should i push with my barbarian or squire?

[latent bramble]

either is fine, barb is probably a bit faster

[woeful karma]

Ping?

Also question
Very important question

Anyone who has recently entered W3 or has strong memories of it

Is normal multikill unlocked by default or does one need to build death note thingy?

[latent bramble]

you need deathnote

i tried it when i was doing gmush samples on alt

[woeful karma]

Fair ig

[woeful karma]

Fuckkkkkk

[white path]

sampling on 1 acconut is painful enough I can't imagine doing it on 2 accounts

[latent bramble]

it's not too long to unlock it though

[woeful karma]

Question
Can one unlock death note within minutes of being in W3 if yoy have stable foundation?

[bronze moth]

omg it's very late w2 guy

[latent bramble]

it's kind of freeing on the alt

sinc eyou don't have to worry about anything really

[woeful karma]

Ello

[woeful karma]

Printing and multikill will be huge

[bronze moth]

wait i've been wondering, what's ur ie minimum zone and max zone?

[woeful karma]

It varies

Mainly just stable foundation

[hexed shoal]

24m and 704m with farsight lightning strike crit

[woeful karma]

I can explain more in depth when I get on my pc in like 30-45ish minutes if you want

[latent bramble]

I think it'd take at least a day, probably two due to salts and build rate

[woeful karma]

Like w2 a fun core thing I wanted to do was GSB vial

[slim mantle]

when we talk about dmg we mean max in sheet info, I assume that's the 24m?

[woeful karma]

Fml
Candy my way to the boss time again ig

[void temple]

i finished w5 pet battles and faced to problem that my pets damage isnt enough for territory. I've checked possible sources to increase it and noticed only couple of meals which seems not very drastical and blooming axe perk
have i missed something ?

[slim mantle]

check the pins

[hexed shoal]

With bosses and nightmares set

[white path]

looks enough to me

[hexed shoal]

Without bosses and nightmares set i go to 24.5m

[slim mantle]

I always believed I could have killed kruk with this dmg if I put in the extra time and effort of manual fighting, but it's gonna be a close one

I mean, you got a reason to not use bosses and nightmare set on es?

[hexed shoal]

I lose 200kph

[void temple]

i did, but there are nothing useful

[slim mantle]

so the single highest possible pet power to gather a spice from a territory is not useful?

as in the best setup for it

cuz there is nothing better we can give than that setup...

[void temple]

as i said it is still not enough. pets rolls with quite low numbers

[slim mantle]

so all you can do is up ur pet powers themselves or level up blooming axe, 2 things you certainly knew already

[waxen copper]

Everyone always said that the gains from bubo's exp siphon to lowest character doesn't depend on them being in lab, but I've seen firsthand that it does. Why did people think it didn't?

(them being the recipient of the lab xp)

[void temple]

how to lvl pet power what affect it ?

[slim mantle]

I think ur mixing up talents, the left or right side in lab thing doesn't depend on bubo being in lab

[waxen copper]

No, I mean the siphon

[slim mantle]

• breeding level
• bm talent
• egg rarity
  that's it, nothing else

[waxen copper]

Give % xp to your lowest leveled lab character, everyone said you don't need anyone but bubo in for that

[slim mantle]

can you link me to where several people said that?

[void temple]

when you said breeding level it means skill lvl not pet lvl which we can increase with genes, isnt it ?

[slim mantle]

yes, the skill level, the dna level only affects new pet and shiny pet chance

[hexed shoal]

Is that even real?

[slim mantle]

it is

[broken hawk]

Can someone help me with the mummy boss? I'm on pizza server 8 and I need a mage and an archer

[void temple]

so sad 😦 skill lvl grows so slooooooooow

[hexed shoal]

Ahh never saw that lmao

[slim mantle]

welcome to breeding

[hexed shoal]

The only 2 i cared about were only green and porp tubes

[waxen copper]

I know multiple people told me but it's been like months since then. For all I know, I'm just dumb and misremembering over nothing. Sorry

[slim mantle]

like if 1 random person said so I would believe somebody was just an idiot, but several people saying so I would say either a misscommunication happened where they talked about the green tube and you about essence transferral or it was just talk about green tube and ur memory ended up thinking later it was about essence transferral

[broken hawk]

Can someone help me with the mummy boss? I'm on pizza server 8 and I need an archer

[latent bramble]

think someone mentioned earlier that essence transfer didn't seem to work if you had xp converter on

[slim mantle]

wouldn't be too surprised if lava code messed that combination up

but who uses xp converter anyway lol

[slim mantle]

since nobody is reacting, just so u know ur not being ignored, I'm not currently able without wasting some decent time in what I'm currently doing ingame so I can't currently help

[lyric basalt]

I just got Grandma Disguise, is there a specific character it's best on?

[hexed shoal]

Its not really good wont recomend

Only gives a tiny bit of exp barely anything

[lyric basalt]

Oh alr so what should I do with it?

[slim mantle]

if ur still at the stage of using gold helmet u could use grandma disguise, if ur more advanced than that theres really no use

[rancid ridge]

You basically got the best use out of it by obtaining it.

Best use it gives you is 1 more item to slab.

Can basically throw it away now unless you want to keep it just for fun or if you really like it's style you can turn it into a premium hat or something.

[void temple]

i made premium hat from it. perfect fit for es

[slim mantle]

this hat wants a word with u

it's name:

[torpid acorn]

used all my talents on es but i think my damage is still too low for first rift. how much of a difference is active vs afk kills?

only got 1k

[void temple]

seems like cliche for es 🙂

[slim mantle]

you can't do first rift afk

[torpid acorn]

yeah im using active es

[slim mantle]

afk kills is quite a lot less than active grind, you have a counter while ur doing the rift, base urself on that

[torpid acorn]

so everytime i test i need to wait five minutes? brutal

[slim mantle]

I mean, ur trying to get the rift done so just do the rift, if u come up short u look at how much u come short and why u came up short

[torpid acorn]

i know what i could do to improve and i got things i could do but i wanna know if im already good

i dont wanna focus my es instead of pushing for W5

[solemn leaf]

Hey guys, can someone tell me what I should be using for pet arena, I’m Really struggling to get to wave 50

[slim mantle]

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/u/0/d/193tGCv_nJpgleOzQ2jkO9KEpSh8JcOZLdjDolD9Z0FI/htmlview#

[torpid acorn]

this

[solemn leaf]

Thank you

[slim mantle]

you most likely are since ur in w5, first rift really isn't hard, so only way to know for sure is to just go try it

[torpid acorn]

nah sorry im pushing for W5

just got rift unlocked as a reached it

after a night of my dk grinding the batteries

[slim mantle]

that would be a lot better with es btw

[torpid acorn]

yeah i was today years old when i learned es was a kph lad

[slim mantle]

anyway if u think u can do this just prepare ur chars and try it, if u think u can't do all of these then wait till later

[slim mantle]

it's not even about the kph, es by mechanics is much better for such drops

[torpid acorn]

oh ok, ill keep that in mind. how about for super rare drops? cuz doesnt maestro have drop chance buffs?

[slim mantle]

unless it's a boss (or doot miniboss) theres no reason to bother with maestro for loot

[torpid acorn]

wait all of these as in i should only do level one if i think i can do 5?

oh damn ok

[slim mantle]

u get a reward after every 5 rifts u complete

[forest portal]

when shd u try and get construcktion mastery?

[slim mantle]

when ur strong enough to get it

[forest portal]

like how much dp?

[slim mantle]

fuck around and find out, the best way to know is to just go into the rift and see for urself

[forest portal]

ok

[slim mantle]

if it's a task it's quickly answered, if it's an afk one u just look at the afk menu and be like ok this is fine or ur like hell nah

[woeful karma]

to summerize it
i try to make very stable foundations each time i enter a world
and a fun few challenges to do on the side sometimes because why not

and for all those who say i 100% stuff that is very not true, my alchemy for example, ive just unlocked the first or second W5 bubbles, havent even filled out the whole tree
quests too
i neglect quite a few of them but at least try to complete all quest lines on at least one player (mainly my Mman or my main warrior)

a lot of W2 has been bubble grinding, mining godshard to make a godshard bar to get the vial
and now whilst the event is still going on, grinding coins to max out upgrades
currently have all colour cauldron P2W tab upgrades maxxed
for the three liq i have i need roughly 81 dim coins to finish maxing it
as for forge upgrades
in an ideal world id have 2 void coins to max both things
(27 dim 50 dim 95 dim) (plus the 81 coins from the liq cauldron)

as for W3 uh
printing and multikill, and construction, and worship, and trapping
oh my
alch will be heavily grinded too im sure

i try to build stable foundation within reason (ie not gonna stay in a world when im banging my head against a wall to make so little progress that even i deam is not worth it)
unless im doing some sort of fun task
but even then the closest thing i had to that was mining godshard lol
i could try to grind stuff to do more bubbles but its already been over 100 days in W2 roughly i assume seeing as i have enough BJP to get the vial to lv 2
and any more alch aside from the agi bubble is just hitting my head against a brick wall with thorns and metal prods

but uh
yeah
hope that kinda explains it better as to what i deem as minimum and maximum kinda?

like caulifish is theoretically possible in W2 im sure
but im not gonna spend like 2 years trying to get it when i can probs get ti in W3 in under a year whilst also boosting other stats n stuff

i realize i did a bad job "summarizing" it i realize seeing as it is that long
but uh
i did say that i wanted to be on pc to write it out for a reason lol
sorry for the wall but i was trying to genuinely reply to someones question to me

[slim mantle]

excuse me, did you just say you have enough bjp to get the vial to level 2??????????

[woeful karma]

uh
maybe

[slim mantle]

theres no way

[pure helm]

Thats what I thought but two people here had the same bug today-ish.

[woeful karma]

i didnt have hte liquid so i didnt upgrade it yet

i sunk it all before doing my daily shop stuff

and didnt feel like waiting with the game open for like 20 mins to get it then lol

[slim mantle]

ah my bad, I was thinking of ball joe pickle from arcade

[woeful karma]

oh god no

god
thats something else i wouldnt hold myself back on
ive yet to get any rare items from it
(boat stamps BBJP ect)

i may be 'clinically unwell' but im not absolutly deranged

[slim mantle]

idk how long u have been doing this account ur slow way but I certainly know u got less arcade ball income than me and of all those rare drops I only today got the boat hat and nothing else yet :p

so if u had 100 balljoepickles for real I would have totally lost it

[woeful karma]

wish i had at least 1

[slim mantle]

same

[woeful karma]

id gladly take the BBJP
ball regen stamp or GB reduction cost stamp

especially that last one
sitting on a windfall of GB due to that 5x event lol

[slim mantle]

that event came at such a bad time honestly

I had litterally just before that used all my balls

[woeful karma]

what was worse is i dont have my frog anymore

[slim mantle]

you deleted it?

[woeful karma]

but thankfully
bless the lava
for he gave GB gain GB upgrade
and i maxxed that out asap

[woeful karma]

turns out i didnt have a duplicate

thought i did
but didn't

so ill forever be shafted 25% GB gain until lava re adds a way to get it lo

[slim mantle]

preventable mistake but one that certainly sucks

petition to make this faster

[woeful karma]

yeah
well i have all my dudes ordered now
so i know where to stop

I have 5 fuckin crystal custard and 0 slimes man, it pisses me off
honestly i might actually be willing to trade a rift slug opportunity for a slime pet

anywhosers
gotta hop off discord now as i have stuff to do
best of luck with the grind!

[slim mantle]

o/

[steady cove]

Is it possible to link the pyrite pyramite and spelunker obol lab pieces? Can you bridge this gap?

I've added about 30px worth of distance. I know the spelunker has a 80px range, but I don't know if the gems have a max range

[steady cove]

TY for the confirmation! I'll keep adding distance. I know moving my Bubo did nothing lol

[slim mantle]

moving bubo could give you line width but you need connection range

[steady cove]

Aside from the w4 card, what is the other source of connection range?

I googled and got 3yo info

[forest portal]

w4 card is line with

[slim mantle]

• summoning

[steady cove]

So, i'm missing the opal navette and lab fuse from equinox

Just got slow roast wiz, so it is my next one in the valley

[stuck latch]

just started getting elite classes rn i got dk and bubo who should i go for next?

[slim mantle]

hunter to bm for breeding related talents, wizard to es because it's a solid class useful for grinding out several things (and pushing if u like)

[steady cove]

Hunter because it has a w4 specific set of skills would be my call

[slim mantle]

yeah I did kinda mean in the order I mentioned them, I probably should have clarified that 😅

[steady cove]

But ES is stupid fun

Mine went BM, ES, BB, DK, Bubo, then stupidly put Vman in slot 6

[forest portal]

me two😢

[stuck latch]

kinda dont have a hunter yet

[steady cove]

So, now I have to pimp out a Vman so hard to be able to beat Kruk in w5 lol

[stuck latch]

waiting for 7th slot

[steady cove]

You need a hunter asap, trapping

[stuck latch]

yeah ik

missing criters for alot of stuff

[slim mantle]

is that still a beginner as 6th?

[steady cove]

Welcome to the pain club having beginner as 6th

[stuck latch]

journeyman

[slim mantle]

shame, too late to fix that mistake then

[fallow oyster]

how do i get my construction gear stats better? my dk is now lvl 300 and it seems liike im only getting like 10-15% better exp cogs than i was when he was level 100 lol

[tribal sparrow]

what average % u getting at 300. kindA curious

[vestal ether]

who's better for afk rare gains, ES or DK or neither? afaik, both of their abilities are active, so idk

[rapid terrace]

ES if it's specifically just for the rare drop
DK if it has overlapping goals where crystals have drops you also need

[vestal ether]

okay. i need one battery and im too impatient to farm actively

[rapid terrace]

Wait, I just re-read what you said.
For afk it's just gonna be whoever has your highest base kph/mktier/mk%/drop rate

Usually SB is used for AFK rare drops

This is the setup you'd use on it for the Rare AFK drops
If you don't have one of the slots just use whatever you have available
This also isn't completely up to date and is missing the cobalt robes if you have them

[vestal ether]

i guess i wont know this without going through every character first, huh?

cause rn my SB is not built for fighting

[rapid terrace]

Yeah, you'd have to check everyone but since you only need the one i'd just set your stronger character on TVs

[vestal ether]

ty, i saved that graphic cause ive never seen it before too.

[rapid terrace]

This is the link to the full Google Sheet instead if you'd like it https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1YkCE1KdcXPoF3hxFUjC0EtEUTkpuBmYcAtGodkuNOJ4/edit?gid=1826222324#gid=1826222324

[vestal ether]

youre amazing, ty!

[velvet portal]

hello just wanna ask, what do yall do with your breedability pets after you unlocked the next one?

Is there any point in keeping them or safe to throw out?

[rapid terrace]

trash them, you'll eventually farm them again for the achievement but that's waaaaaay later down the line

[velvet portal]

aites, ty man

they're clogging up my space haha

[fallow oyster]

anywhere from 35ish to like 70ish % exp on purples

[lean perch]

Is there enough people around to assist with space party achievement?

[rain scroll]

hi guys

got 4th bucket and rate 10k now 🙂 was 5k i think yesterday

should i reset my opals and put all in explorer till i unlock all maps?

also idk what ores should i focus i have till mithril

should i work on expanding bars or unlock new?

[fallen ridge]

I'd farm ores for future schematics and measure so mythril and redstone for now,
before leveling engineer I would farm also cobaltine (next ore) and before leveling measures to 4 farm bruntine (the one after cobaltine)

[rain scroll]

my engineer is lv8 it levels very slowly it only has 4 opals on him

[fallen ridge]

u can do whatever u prefer with remaining buckets either buff your non-hole stuff (gravel=breeding, gold=damage, redstone=cooking) or double up production for hole

[rain scroll]

ima send u my measurer and engineer

ima grab 50 gifts first

from boxes

[fallen ridge]

when I said measure to 4 I meant 6 because it's too early in the morning for me and I am not able to count yet

[fallen ridge]

focus on getting that bonus and level it up: it increases bucket fill rate by a lot

[rain scroll]

shesh

i dont have that ore

so do i work on removing rock layer? @fallen ridge

[fallen ridge]

remove 2 rock layer at this point

u'll "waste" a few days doing so but u will increase your buckets by a ton after that

[rain scroll]

hmm

will take 3 hours

also what to do in harp?

what does C D E do?

[fallen ridge]

mine rn:
~x21 from bravery, +520% from bell, +3.89k% from measure +3.56k% from expansion (I don't think other bonuses matter as much as these, but I might be wrong)

[rain scroll]

oo wow

what do i do in harp?

[fallen ridge]

I did mostly C to unlock engineer stuff and upgrade measure's ones, after I unlocked G I started using it to level up other notes
I don't know if it was correct though

[rain scroll]

should i reset opal and put all in explorer to max it faster?

and when it is done max 2nd and repeat for others?

[fallen ridge]

in what cavern are u?

[rain scroll]

i have till hive

is it worth spending gems for cavern?

for resource/xp?

[fallen ridge]

I think there are things more valuable than hole in gem shop like farming plots, storage/bags, sample spaces (to not lose relic)...

[rain scroll]

1st gear!

i think i can also maybe make diabolical axe

ima also make divine

[fallen ridge]

also I wouldn't give explorer all opals since some engineer's schematics are so good, conjurer in long terms gives u XP/more gains and measures gives everything

[rain scroll]

7/9

i think i had 1 gold twine but idk where is it im not sure

found it

[runic coral]

use c until u get g

[dusty apex]

check your flombeige card, it will tell you if you found a gold twine

[rain scroll]

20k bars eee

but np when i was gone i made quite alot of starfire

will last a while

[runic coral]

kind of easy shit to farm and u only need 30 for all chars

[rain scroll]

and i have 4500 nullo i just need 2 goldtwine rn

ima go put dk and active there

[dusty apex]

easy after a while, but when you first get there it can be a pain

[runic coral]

yep

[rain scroll]

how much time will it take for 2 gold twine with 11 dr dk?

[runic coral]

i left bubo there during hole update creation took 3 days got 60 dk was at the time pearler shell farming

[runic coral]

not long i think

[marble silo]

what's a good character for grinding? i just got to w3 and and realized how far behind i am in tools and pouches (grinding mobs)

and also does refinery reset if i run out of resources while it's not full? the quest just went to 0 hours of fuel

[honest reef]

wow i left bubo there for more than a week but got 34

tbf my dr was like lower than 10

[runic coral]

mines like 15 or 20 in between or one of the other

[rain scroll]

what if i candy?

[honest reef]

my dr is 21 now

[rain scroll]

how much candy will i need approx?

[honest reef]

nah just active it'lll take way too long

[rain scroll]

f2p? how?

[honest reef]

u can use the calculator

[honest reef]

um i did buy the 60% dr cape from hole pack

but yeah i just got dr from crystal custard and gear and gem shop and stuff

[rain scroll]

what abt the dr multi pack?

[honest reef]

oh also infinite summoning

nah

[rain scroll]

dr multi pack better for dr

[honest reef]

yeah ik but hole pack was better overall

[rain scroll]

oo

i didnt play for a long while

[honest reef]

2x dmg 60% dr for 1 char 30% all afk i believe 1.5x villager exp 4500 gems 1000 pet companion crystals

[rain scroll]

o

[marble silo]

what's a good character for grinding? i just got to w3 and and realized how far behind i am in tools and pouches (grinding mobs)
and also does refinery reset if i run out of resources while it's not full? the quest just went to 0 hours of fuel

[raven mist]

what are the best ways to get more mining efficiency? I have decent bubbles and stuff but i still only have around 10k

[forest portal]

hole

[raven mist]

?

[forest portal]

wait have u reach w5?

[pure helm]

The refinery wont reset but that quest will as its goal is to stock up 24 hours of fuel.

[raven mist]

no i just got to w4

im trying to mine dementia but yk

[forest portal]

oh then cooking

corn is good

[rain scroll]

10k for w4 is too low

[marble silo]

then the quest does? i don't know why but its almost full but quest says 0 hours of fuel

[raven mist]

what should it be

[rain scroll]

this is what i have and im a noob

[forest portal]

what lvl is your hearty diggy

[raven mist]

20

[forest portal]

bro is just trying to flex

[pure helm]

You have salt almost full. You need a pile of mats to turn into salt to finish that quest.

[forest portal]

yeah u shd get that up it will help alot

dont mine stuff just print it

[raven mist]

only got 12 dementia smaple :P

[pure helm]

Also just to be clear here you are in W3 ya?

[forest portal]

u trying to get larry higher?

[marble silo]

yeah, i'm a returning player tho so i forgot almost everything and my mining is lvl 24 with silver tools on everything

[raven mist]

larry?

[forest portal]

wait why u need dementia

[raven mist]

im tryna get dementia armor

[forest portal]

oh icic

[raven mist]

thats the goal rn

[forest portal]

what is your tools

[raven mist]

although ill prob end up printing stuff for bubbles

mostly gold

[forest portal]

make sure u are equiping your boost food

[pure helm]

Follow the stuff brett is learning atm it will be of use to you too.

[forest portal]

and that your sample rate is 90

[raven mist]

isnt that rlly hard?

my sample rate rn is low

[forest portal]

do u have royal sampler

[raven mist]

no what is that

[forest portal]

prayer it gives sample size

[raven mist]

i dont even have a wiz yet

[forest portal]

oh

[raven mist]

im close to another player slot

[forest portal]

icic

[raven mist]

might just push a few of my lower level ones

[pure helm]

You can start TD but you cant equip prayers without one.

[forest portal]

then get heart diggy up l guess

[pure helm]

You want to use a hunter for geting new waves anyway.

[raven mist]

ive got like wave 30-40 on the first 3

[forest portal]

thats good

[raven mist]

i also kinda messed up by making 3 warriors so quickly

i did it at the start of my account a long time ago

[forest portal]

wait so what is your players?

[raven mist]

1 barb 2 squires 1 archer 1 shaman 1 journeyman

kinda yikes i dont know what i was doing

[marble silo]

oh right

i can start prayers by getting a wizard right?

[rain scroll]

+1 gold twine

need 1 more

[forest portal]

for troll?

[astral lava]

Ye

[forest portal]

lm just waiting for my salts

l messed it up so badly

[pure helm]

Prayers are a reward from the tower defence mini game. You need to buy a skull tool from the W3 shop and equip it.

[marble silo]

oh i see

that's what that thing in construction was for

[astral lava]

But still, you would need a Wizard to equip these prayers

[marble silo]

yeah i already have a mage, he just isn't at speccius yet

[astral lava]

From TDs, you get prayers, via having Wizard, you equip these prayers

[raven mist]

should i go for wiz or hunter first

[astral lava]

Wiz

[pure helm]

Related dont use charge siphon its bad.

[raven mist]

thought it was good

[astral lava]

Ye, Charge siphon is just a shortcut to use charges for lazy people

[marble silo]

okay, when i unlock td i will keep that in mind

[astral lava]

• you need ur Vman to have the highest Worship lv

[forest portal]

its good but dont reley on it too much

[rain scroll]

not rly

but high vman level worship+trapping = more soul/critter

[astral lava]

I really forgot Abt that talent

Ima look what I would get with it

[rain scroll]

hmmm

[indigo stratus]

Is the talent active account wide or just on the vman?

[astral lava]

I think it's account wide

[rain scroll]

5.31% per level and i have (93+58-100)=51

so 250%

[astral lava]

It's not noted that it's account wide

So Idk

[rain scroll]

it is

vman has family wise bonuses

[indigo stratus]

Ooo is the multikill talent also account wide?

Vman very useful 👌