midgame-chat-w3🧊w4🔮

[dusk ledge]

Naw, but was talking with a guy that is hyper late game. That came from him

[cold wraith]

who

dont tell me it was bean or occido

[dusk ledge]

occido

[cold wraith]

lmfao

[dusk ledge]

To be actually frank, it does not matter when you get it in the long run

[marsh glade]

Not waiting til 10th for a new class 😅, gonna assume the risk of doing it 7th

[dusk ledge]

It really does not matter a ton

[faint willow]

Why aré there 2 of the same bonus? Or am i missing something

[cold wraith]

the second one goes up by 2 each time you upgrade

[dusk ledge]

Its not a risk, 7th is just fine 🙂

[cold wraith]

occidos such a troll

[faint willow]

Oh, weird way to do it instead of adding all together

[dusk ledge]

Where are you actually waffle? Definitely not w3

[cold wraith]

w6

[dusk ledge]

I would change that in your name

[cold wraith]

nah

[dusk ledge]

Just because you disagree with a guy does not make him a troll. He got to where he was just fine

[cold wraith]

he is a troll

its not even disagreeing with him

[dusk ledge]

What is an example of him actually trolling? Like not just when to get something, but actively gimping someone's account?

[cold wraith]

him and bean

idk he just has weird experiences that worked somehow

theres a chance hes lurking right now

[dusk ledge]

That does not sound like trolling

[cold wraith]

kinda hard to explain

you wouldnt know cus you js got here

[pure helm]

Some takes are bad, and some people care about that to much.

I would say waiting to get a jman 10th is a rather bad take but egh, they will be a bit slower no need for me to worry.

[cold wraith]

you get 10th slot by the time you are in mid/late w5

thats pretty bad progression wise cus you would want decent prints for lab/div grind

[pure helm]

You had better be in the waffle guild btw.

[cold wraith]

i have no clue if thats real or not

[cold wraith]

im in some random lv 40 guild for all the bonuses

lowk put me in

[pure helm]

Not mine.

[cold wraith]

where

damn bruh why does it cost so many golden balls to max an upgrade out

[pure helm]

Cookie 5 oranges atm.

[cold wraith]

is he leader of it

[pure helm]

Probably some rando.

[cold wraith]

ah

if its not a maxed bonus guild im not joining it

[pure helm]

Its where you belong bonus or not.

[cold wraith]

oh

you right sorry king

[sterile adder]

any suggestions on how to increase fight power?

[ebon rampart]

Higher power , more blooming axe

[jade kindle]

what dish should i make

[zenith hare]

4th acorn

[zenith hare]

all of them, normally the easiest first

well, easiest to level

[cold wraith]

bean is there a sheet for the levels i need for instant gaming

[polar bane]

when should I start getting eclipse skulls?

[dusty apex]

Higher power increases power, very insightful

[ebon rampart]

I meant pet power and they asked for fight power

[dusty apex]

In fairness the screenshot does mention fight power

[ebon rampart]

With two more 25k pets and a level of blooming axe it might be possible

[hexed shoal]

Thats nice

Something for slab

And this thing will prolly stay eith me for long as heck

[ebon rampart]

You could also activate it so it doesn't take up a valuable slot

[hexed shoal]

What worship lvl do i need for frigid souls? 40?

[jade kindle]

yes its 40

[bronze moth]

upgrading tools took me from 7.85k to 9.37k acc

by upgrading I mean putting w4 tool stones on the tools on a shaman so i could get that wis

are gold tools enough for w4 or should i upgrade to plat tools

rn I only have 1 tool for each char's specialized skill i will craft other tools though

[jade kindle]

try to get plat or demen

[bronze moth]

maybe in like w5 so all my chars can push w4 with some extra stats

[hexed shoal]

You want iron tools on everyone and gears for specialized skills as high as possible

[bronze moth]

like iron tools for unspecialized skills?

[hexed shoal]

Yes

[bronze moth]

ok those are really cheap so imma do that rn

[hexed shoal]

They help with acruacy or damage based on which stones you use in w4

[jagged sentinel]

is there like a priority to shiny leveling? so far im just doing shiny rate

[hexed shoal]

Breeding or trapping?

[jagged sentinel]

breeding

[hexed shoal]

If breeding then max out shiny rate it will help more in the long run im pretty sure

[bronze moth]

i'm focusing on accuracy rn so i'm going to put the stones on my shaman/mages

[jagged sentinel]

aight thx mate

[bronze moth]

dang i need to resample

when should i get a maestro

[weary trail]

Do you have a journeyman?

[astral lava]

When you can get a maestro

[bronze moth]

yeah

[weary trail]

You could then

But if you don’t unlock equinox

[bronze moth]

i got iron on everything except fishing rod tool

[astral lava]

Did you see the requirements skills levels?

[bronze moth]

yeah

[astral lava]

Well, can you reach it easily?

[weary trail]

Equinox makes it so fishing takes 20 minutes

So don’t worry about fishing

[astral lava]

Sea salt makes it 5 sec

[bronze moth]

ehhh it would take a couple of days

[astral lava]

Total: couple of days?

Or for each skill?

[weary trail]

Couple of days is pretty damn quick

[weary trail]

True

[bronze moth]

for each skill

[astral lava]

Then not now

[weary trail]

Still quick

In my opinion

[bronze moth]

10k accuracy mark

[slim mantle]

I got a few 10k's too

[weary trail]

small amount that I have

[bronze moth]

😭

[bronze moth]

9 QUADRILLION????

wait no

[slim mantle]

yeah, not my best

[weary trail]

He’s jus cooler

[weary trail]

Yes

[bronze moth]

yeah

[weary trail]

9.1🤓

[astral lava]

[astral lava]

That 0.1 is bigger than all of us 3 combined

[slim mantle]

hold up a sec, let me fix that

[weary trail]

True

[astral lava]

He will make it higher

[astral lava]

Vman or SB?

[slim mantle]

sb

[astral lava]

Heh

I'm surprised...

That I know

[slim mantle]

why surprised? sb was ur own gues

[hexed shoal]

Damn

I wonder how much with accruacy stat upgraded gear

[slim mantle]

the number is ever rising anyway

since I hourly click shaq

[hexed shoal]

Just got this shi

6hr afk session

[hexed shoal]

Damn i wish i was printing that much

[slim mantle]

I wish storage wasn't capped at 1050m

[hexed shoal]

Probably lava cpuld add a hole bonus for that

From conju or schematics

[slim mantle]

actually I'm fine if lava waits with it a bit longer

till I'm done with sigils :p

[hexed shoal]

Occido i have 4 opal and my villagers are 10/10/1/2 what should i invest?

[slim mantle]

probably put more in conjuror, manage to get the good xp bonusses then be resetting opals around to put all in 1 at a time

[jade kindle]

what is the rift

[slim mantle]

a map in w4 where u complete challenges to recieve bonusses

[jade kindle]

should i stat it or wait untill w5

[slim mantle]

u can try, u need to complete 5 for every bonus, u probably can't get far yet

finishing the first 15 (so reaching rift 16) gives u a nice bonus tho

[tender ocean]

you make me consider going back and hourly click that

[slim mantle]

you mean to tell me you don't already?

or candy'ing it even?

[tender ocean]

i wait for fish candy a bit more

[slim mantle]

fair enough

[tender ocean]

rn i feel like catching is in a good spot to start doing it a bit

fish i need to think about it

[slim mantle]

btw when u candy bubbles, what do u do prayer whise? full afk gain, nothing special or extra carry capacity?

full afk ofc would give the most but the pain to collect then...

[tender ocean]

extra carry cap since i only use a 1h candy and i get enough resources to fill my chest that i use either way

[slim mantle]

I suppose at some point it becomes a liquid bottleneck anyway

[tender ocean]

for chopping i dont fill as much as with mining but still 100+ stacks

[slim mantle]

I might start candy'ing bubbles once I finish sigils so I can actually go full active bubo

[tender ocean]

how much more missing? day wise

[slim mantle]

which is... hopefully done by the time all caverns are released

[tender ocean]

oh i see

well tbf, you can start buboing before all are finished tho

[slim mantle]

will be nice to grab the efficiency boosts from all caverns releasing

[slim mantle]

I kinda want to see them all be red

the shitty ones are on the faster side anyway

[tender ocean]

i will wait with candying w4-5 logs rn due to chopping cavern making them piss easy to get probably

[slim mantle]

for sure, every 5 caverns adds a resource which by engineer bonus gives efficiency to all skills and then ofcourse their respective monument

so I want all caverns released, get a ton of bonus efficiency that way

[tender ocean]

yes and next is chopping

[slim mantle]

how certain is that?

[tender ocean]

95

[slim mantle]

not bad

hoping he finally releases caverns 11-15 this week

[tender ocean]

i saw it a while ago from people in here and some are trustworthy enough to not post bait

[slim mantle]

whats ur explorer at? I imagine you have crazy xp

[tender ocean]

i stopped at 14 for now

gonna get a few more cunjurer lvls for now

[slim mantle]

ah, I'm trying to go for the full 15 so I have to reset less often :p

[slim mantle]

nice, about 3x my speed

[tender ocean]

13.7d to get lvl 15 explorer

[slim mantle]

we should be getting a decent few opals with 11-15 release

[tender ocean]

maybe next daily reset i am going to swap

[slim mantle]

I should just start buying opals from gemshop, I'm at 4/20

[tender ocean]

probably, if you have nothing better to buy

[slim mantle]

that mostly depends on what lava puts in fomo shop

[tender ocean]

i hope new respawn keychains

[slim mantle]

trying to have some gems ready for thursday in case

did buy 20 spins for christmas event but no nametag sadly

[misty wadi]

Finally got around to joining the server. Is there any place to find advice and all that jazz?

[tender ocean]

i have bought spins daily so far, i think i missed out on 1 day bec i bought late that day and on reset i thought i already did it

[slim mantle]

these should be decent places for that

[tender ocean]

i mean yes, just depends on what advice specifically

[slim mantle]

lava been draining my gems hard since he released hole, been gem drain after gem drain

[misty wadi]

Gotcha. I’m just wondering what exactly I’m lacking. I’ve got some decent builds (I think).

[slim mantle]

we're gonna need more context than that, like where ur at in the game and what exactly ur struggles are

[fleet vale]

Builds? Who uses builds

I prefer doing everything at 30% efficiency

[misty wadi]

World 3, and I’m mainly just trying to see what’s up with my progress. Hit a real big brick wall regarding progression through the world. The candy I was using kinda just, blegh, y’know?

[fleet vale]

What kind of wall?

survivability, accuracy, dmg?

[slim mantle]

look at ur afk info like this, I know you can't send screenshots here yet but tell us how ur accuracy requirement and survivability as well as kills per hour are looking like

[tender ocean]

you somehow always only give 50% of the info needed and leave out the important one

[fleet vale]

Btw this is the amount of kills per hour you’re supposed to be getting trust

[misty wadi]

😭

[fleet vale]

I mean if you’re not getting half of that what are you even doing

[slim mantle]

I'm not even trying for kph, I'm just casually crystal farming here for a sec cuz I was on dk anyway and decided to click the bubble for this mob drop a bit

[fleet vale]

Jokes aside what’s the problem

[tender ocean]

i like this kph more

[fleet vale]

Yeah I was talking about the other guy

[slim mantle]

bruh no way

[fleet vale]

Mental illness

[slim mantle]

I know ur endgame but I'm pretty damn sure that's not possible

[tender ocean]

it is

its my screenshot

[slim mantle]

only about 13x higher than I have seen anybody else

[fleet vale]

How much main stat do you have?

Because I assume that’s the only thing you can take indefinitely further

[misty wadi]

FIGHTING
QUENCHIES
Main Information
• SURUIVABILITY: 100%
• NO DMG REQ: 538
Miscellaneous InFormation
• MONSTER HP: 225,000
• CARD ODDS: 1 IN 1HR
• HIT CHANCE: 70%
• ACTIVE PRAYERS: 0

[tender ocean]

~240k on my chars

[misty wadi]

Sorry, I’m getting pictures, copying and formatting readable text.

[fleet vale]

A little more accuracy would be nice

[tender ocean]

nobody thinking of the obvious thing?

[fleet vale]

But otherwise damage and definitely check out abilities

[fleet vale]

Photoshop

[slim mantle]

ok so you're lacking accuracy, to name a few sources: clickers (w1 and w2), dungeon flurbo shop, star signs, cards, cardset

[misty wadi]

Max HP: 768
Max MP: 302
Damage: 15566~41558
STR: 242
AGI: 90
WIS: 222
LUK: 77
Crit Chance: 10.5% Crit Damage: 1.33x
Accuracy: 2.02K
Defence: 315
Movement Speed: 106%
Drop Rarity: 1.78x
Class EXP: 1.41x

[slim mantle]

vman speedrun, u screenshot cheater :p

[misty wadi]

Bam, easy

[fleet vale]

Yeah I hadn’t thought of that somehow

[tender ocean]

screenshot from speedrun

[misty wadi]

HOW THE F

[slim mantle]

but an actual kph outside of speedrun

[dusty apex]

vman speedrun allows for interesting things

[tender ocean]

especially headache from trying to figure out what the respawn and movespeed cap is and what gear is giving a bonus and what not

[misty wadi]

I did this idelonefficiency thingy earlier. Is that any good?

[dusty apex]

its ok, idleon toolbox is the better version

[fleet vale]

How much money have you spent btw on the game

[tender ocean]

inflated temporary numbers due to a game mechanic unlocked later on in the game

[slim mantle]

ah I remember that, u helped me when I couldn't figure out why my gmush sample was only half of what it should be and it turned out to be cuz of no move speed pots

[tender ocean]

yes

[fleet vale]

Over 500?

[tender ocean]

yeah but more movespeed rn is actually more respawn

or something else

[slim mantle]

I think we're easily capping move speed now with dragon statue, no?

[tender ocean]

something is increasing the cap of respawn and i cant find out what exactly

[fleet vale]

Wait I thought move speed pots didn’t make a difference after a while

[slim mantle]

like the gains we get with move speed

[tender ocean]

there is no movespeed cap from what i feel like

[velvet anchor]

Only 17qq?

[slim mantle]

that's what I thought too, turns out it does :p when u get enough mob respawn u need extra move speed to compensate for it (in afk)

[tender ocean]

you still got my print spreeadsheet?

[slim mantle]

it's a dk in crystal farming setup not going for dmg ok and my dmg is on the lower side of late game, it's the rest of my mechanics that are advanced

urs specifically? I could look for it in dm, sec

[real hare]

can anyone help me by saying "Hi" on snakeoteps platform in server pizza 1 pretty please

[velvet anchor]

107m on my es

[fleet vale]

🤩

[velvet anchor]

About 75m on my dk

[tender ocean]

the only real difference i had in both runs was a few more lvls into mkpt from measurer and ~1k% more movespeed and somehow the respawn gloves actually gave respawn again

[slim mantle]

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1Gyce-yZK-RsMAWHLzDuNnD7KuqRbsnA1TUtCWRn2xz8/edit?gid=519448493#gid=519448493

[tender ocean]

hyperlinks dont work

ah yeah thats the old one

[slim mantle]

that message was directed at hourzero 😅

wait, u got a 91m gmush sample 😮

[tender ocean]

still there?

[slim mantle]

when I resampled I was pretty disappointed in gmush, I expected hole to make a bigger difference

btw I assume u tested w6 vs w5 cardset?

[tender ocean]

in my first run i equipped marble gloves since it actually didnt matter, but in my second run i swapped to kruk gloves in like the last 15 seconds and for no reason besides me having more movespeed, i got a higher print bec the respawn was actually working

mkpt better by a bit

[slim mantle]

I never upgraded archer or beginner weapon past kruk cuz it has respawn which I think is just better than whatever comes after that :p

[lyric forge]

can an arch and a mage come help me summon doot on pizza 1?

[tender ocean]

can mage

[slim mantle]

with hole bonusses I went up only 3 mil vs before tho, so I'm kinda confused, I expected a lot more as I got higher afk gain, a ton more mk and stuff and ofcourse the dragon statues increasing my move speed more than before, 4 bosses killed

[tender ocean]

did you do all 5 bosses?

pre hole and movespeed you only needed 3 boss kills, now you need all 5

also possibly due to the movespeed

[slim mantle]

4 like I said :p I can't really push through w5 in speedrun and have time to spare for sampling

[slim mantle]

dragon statue so my move speed must have more than doubled, so I was quite surprised to have such small gains only

[tender ocean]

there are so many small things that influence other small things that i sometimes lose the overview of whats better since i could get just a bit more movespeed and then somehow repsawn keychains are better than afk ones (that is actually the only thing i havent tested yet)

[slim mantle]

WTB respawn gemshop keychains :p

[tender ocean]

yeah i wish they come in next rotation

since we already got afk, r and only one missing now is respawn

[slim mantle]

I also hope (tho it isn't much hope) to get the event nametag before the damn event ends

[tender ocean]

and then i hope its not a gamba respawn one

[slim mantle]

I'm also hoping for wing gamba, I need dr wings

[tender ocean]

i can give a spare one

[slim mantle]

if only lava allowed trading

[slim mantle]

btw I would buy more afk gain ones right about now, still need 2 more colors for slab

[tender ocean]

i am glad i got all 3, and the 2 best ones are in red

[slim mantle]

btw I'm lowkey triggered this event is not triggering this slab

[tender ocean]

there are 2 versions of the present sadly

[slim mantle]

like lava removed some things from slab earlier, why didn't he remove the damn unobtainable things

instead he removed obtainable things, idk which things but my total went down with it so

[tender ocean]

who knows why, i still believe unobtainable items shouldnt be in slab

[slim mantle]

slab proving my hate for arcade btw never dropping good shit

right now I'm torn between do I spend balls or do I wait hoping for another extra gold balls event

[tender ocean]

speaking of slab and movespeed, i really hope the green cake is coming back soon for more speed

i am currently waiting with arcade balls

[slim mantle]

I'm waiting too but that villager xp multi is staring at me

[tender ocean]

yeah true that, it is a nice bonus

[slim mantle]

so I'm torn, do I wait hoping lava ever repeats that arcade event or just spend balls and get my villager gains

cuz there is no guarantee he evenr repeats it and if he does, when

[mint fractal]

what should i be doing while waiting to unlock killer brightside, do i continue to push without it or grind levels on my other char to get my 8th char

[slim mantle]

push without it imo, it's nice when it kicks in but waiting for it is losing u more time

and xp in w4 is trash

[mint fractal]

ok, when do u recommend that i start unlocking boss key for w2 and w3 for my other chars

[slim mantle]

w2 u could do right now honestly, portal requirements are small and u should have multikill, w3 I'd wait a bit with, it has solid alternative key gain methods anyway

[mint fractal]

ok tysm

[tender ocean]

good that you answered that, i am so out oftouch with earlygame strats with all the new mechanics

[slim mantle]

it's getting harder and harder on me too, biggest issue is what to recommend ppl in w5 now with the hole, that shook things up a lot

honestly wish lava put the hole in w6 just to give newer players a more clear path to follow

[tender ocean]

yeah it hurts saying dont focus on bravery afk or other things

[slim mantle]

the bonusses end up going hand in hand a bit so it's really tough to suggest to them what to do

[short heron]

Why can't I claim it?

[tender ocean]

monuments and such are like completely useless until you are mid w6 or so

[slim mantle]

like I am so glad I was already late game when hole dropped

[tender ocean]

do you already have that jewel?

[slim mantle]

you already have it

[short heron]

ok nvm

qi swore i didnt until i checked

thanks

[slim mantle]

I've been looking in on endgame chat a bit lately to start and grab some knowledge from there, the difference in hole vs me as late gamer and them endgamers is crazy

[tender ocean]

especially the fact alone if we both compare measurement multi for all skill lvls

[slim mantle]

like I feel like I'm doing pretty alright and then I look: well shit, how did they have this many wishes to be that far ahead?

[slim mantle]

I compared to xaya, I'm a whole 2.00x behind

so my bravery is just hopelessly behind despite my afk hours and measurer being pretty similar lol

but also seeing all those justice screenshots... for me reaching case 100 is a miracle already lol

[tender ocean]

how much did she had?

[slim mantle]

I managed to up mine a bit since then, I was at 5.44x

[tender ocean]

yeah.

[slim mantle]

ur measurer levels are pretty ahead of mine tho, how many wishes did u put into well/harp?

mine is at 6x

[tender ocean]

i honestly dont know if my 47.3k is actually that good, i focused it a bit lately

its at 15.75x rn iirc

15.5x

[slim mantle]

I just can't catch up to skill levels like that, like I can catch up some levels sure, lets say I went tryhard mode, perhaps, just maybe I could gain about 3000... would still be far behind lol

[slim mantle]

god damn man, u have w6 wishes unlocked? I'm currently saving for those, if u do I really don't get how u got that many more wishes, I get 6.54 daily

[tender ocean]

i only know that hotair reacted to the lvls as said 47k is crazy, but i never really saw any other comparison

[slim mantle]

like sure I got my wishes up later but that much? endgame diff is real xD

[tender ocean]

i dont have w6 wish unlocked, i heard for the things i wanted it, it is not good

[slim mantle]

well xaya's 44k :p

[tender ocean]

maybe essence gain is the only good thing

[slim mantle]

speaking of, whats urs at?

mine

[slim mantle]

and here I am wondering why I'm so behind in endless summoning haha, stuck on 75

[tender ocean]

81 is the biggest wall currently

[slim mantle]

75 is 1 hp with small lane and like 2b enemy hp, like wtf does lava expect me to do here

[tender ocean]

pray for sparky

[slim mantle]

a few sparkies ain't cutting it, would need a full hand of diamond sparkies

the fact it's a narrow lane makes it that much harder

[zenith hare]

guess the game

[tender ocean]

next idleon weekly update

[slim mantle]

release date simulater 2105

[zenith hare]

you only need like 6 sparkies in first hand

which is doable

[latent bramble]

star citizen or w/e

[zenith hare]

not likely, but doable

[cold wraith]

this christmas event has not been so favorable towards me

[slim mantle]

you done it? several sparkies and don't even reach the midway point cuz enemy spam is that hard and push back insane cuz they don't die

[latent bramble]

i just wanted the 16 storage slots

[cold wraith]

i have gotten none of the items

except 4 husky hats which i already had

[zenith hare]

have you not seen sparky push back, its either you use them wrong or something else entirely

i am at ur one too

best ive got so far was 5 in one hand and i was milimeters from winning

[slim mantle]

theres just no way I get lucky enough for that many sparkies that I would need that quickly

[zenith hare]

1 crystal sparky and 1 multicard sparky

its doable

[slim mantle]

I can considder myself lucky if I get 2 regular sparky cards in the first 3 hands

[zenith hare]

yeah thats like 20% of runs

youd need more like a top 5% of early runs, maybe less

[slim mantle]

definatly less, I swear pulling doot is easier

[zenith hare]

reminder that you can press the redraw button for free 3 times

[slim mantle]

I know and I do, but doing so and checking what ur hand has is time the enemy advances

[zenith hare]

space bar is the hot key

[slim mantle]

I'm aware

[unique veldt]

For some reason no cooking clogs are dropping for me when I’ve used 6 4 hour candies on my dk on purple mushrooms whose got 140k kills per hour

[zenith hare]

add on using vrooms thats early on in hands, you can stall for a good 3 hands worth of sparkies

[zenith hare]

kpk, lab, and nobi sect kills dont count for drops

[slim mantle]

and mk

[zenith hare]

and you need 2x the kills for the drop to be 100%

[zenith hare]

i think afk it does count, uncertain for 100% chance tho

[slim mantle]

it does not

[zenith hare]

as i get like 6 clogs in a 1 hour now

[unique veldt]

Ohh ok thanks so I’ve just been pretty unlucky ig

[zenith hare]

dr and mk is only two differences

[slim mantle]

just dr

and afk gains

[zenith hare]

i do forget ab how insane our afk gains get

[slim mantle]

remember the other day when u thought mk was affecting it afk and I did the candy test to see?

[zenith hare]

i dont remember you actually testing it tbh

i do remember the talk though

[slim mantle]

do u remember me stupidly writing kruk card instead of emperor?

[zenith hare]

yes i do

[cold wraith]

is there a faster way to figure out the raw kph other than diving by mk

[slim mantle]

u said that about the image of my test

[zenith hare]

kpk is the only annoying part

[cold wraith]

the talent in 4th page?

[zenith hare]

as IT and IE doesnt directly tell you ur bonuses

[cold wraith]

ah

[zenith hare]

you have to manually find the number

bubble, tab 4, and a few other things iirc

[cold wraith]

oh

[zenith hare]

near identical iirc

[cold wraith]

i thought it was just the fourth talent

[slim mantle]

all tests had identical loot, just vastly differing kill counts

[zenith hare]

i do wish that IT/IE showd us mob respawn and kpk tbh

[slim mantle]

this was the image

[zenith hare]

kruk lul

[slim mantle]

yeye I know I messed up my names, but I did use the proper card

[zenith hare]

probably thought obols

instead of dr obols

[slim mantle]

nah I just had a brain afk moment

[zenith hare]

smh

[slim mantle]

but as seen, kill count is always different as expected, loot identical

[empty mulch]

how do i take samples

[zenith hare]

clearly didnt try hard enougj

[empty mulch]

in 3d printer??

[slim mantle]

use the talent

[zenith hare]

use the star talent you get from the ice cream npc in w3 town

[empty mulch]

ah k

[zenith hare]

anyways ima go do some bindings on PoH

[slim mantle]

enjoy

[zenith hare]

i shall

which one shall i start with is the question

ima do nail

[wicked birch]

wooo 6th pet slot

[velvet anchor]

I’m liking my new bubble odds

[wicked birch]

nice!

[woeful karma]

question
can i spend atoms without collider?

[woeful karma]

youll get 0 new ones and like it

[wicked birch]

you need collider to get atoms

[woeful karma]

XD
its happened to me before

[wicked birch]

as far as i know

[latent bramble]

on divinity blessings and a bell upgrade in the caverns

[woeful karma]

nope
apparently it autoconverts after 1050M

[latent bramble]

i think those are the only non-collider upgrades that use atoms

[wicked birch]

weird. i thought it starts a new stack

[woeful karma]

so nothing useful to me got it

also what is the W3 equivalent of the Rat and Sand Giant

[wicked birch]

huh

are you asking like exp/hr?

[woeful karma]

xp and coins yeah

[zenith hare]

nope

[woeful karma]

like how snelbies are the strongest but low respawn rate

[zenith hare]

atoms convert even without collider beyond 1050mill

though you'll get 0 use for them without collider minus that 1 w5 ach

but by then you have access to collider anyways

[woeful karma]

at least ill have them for when i unlock them

[zenith hare]

blood bones

[wicked birch]

yea i just saw someone with multiple 1050m stacks one time when i started so i just assumed

[woeful karma]

the issue is
to make the collider i need those one lava skull face thingys

[zenith hare]

it's mid w4 stats

[woeful karma]

but those arnt W3 or W4

[zenith hare]

hence being in w5 anyways for the use

[woeful karma]

yeah :(

[cerulean meteor]

This combat card set any good for active?

[zenith hare]

maybe a new way to get em will appear no clue

[zenith hare]

Dr won't help for combat

[cerulean meteor]

ah ok

[woeful karma]

i pray so

[zenith hare]

and mk doesn't do anything unless you have 2x damage

[cerulean meteor]

im trying to grind rare drops tho

[woeful karma]

maybe a quest or something

[slim mantle]

that's manual work

[zenith hare]

on es?

[woeful karma]

funnily enough
thought that was a miniboss or something

[cerulean meteor]

bruh why am i not doing that on ES lol

[wicked birch]

no i understand now

[zenith hare]

max ur damage, it's overall better then Dr cards

[woeful karma]

seeing as it gives total damage %

[zenith hare]

on es

[cerulean meteor]

i was doing it on mman of all things

[woeful karma]

i cant wait to unlock Deathnote
ill get so many coins and mob drops

wait does MK effect coin gain or only materials?

[cerulean meteor]

i thought it does neither

idk tho

[wicked birch]

both

[woeful karma]

what is the point of MK if it doesnt give drops?

[woeful karma]

oh thats huge

[cerulean meteor]

trust ^^^

[woeful karma]

ima get so much coins and materials in W3

[woeful karma]

what about xp

probs not?

[wicked birch]

not if you are just entering it

[zenith hare]

w4 for the coins

you need a star talent from vip book library

[woeful karma]

i have golden numbers on my warrior

[zenith hare]

for mk to help

[cerulean meteor]

how do i get more of those

[woeful karma]

NOOOOO MY PLAN TO MAX COIN UPGRADESSSS

[cerulean meteor]

vip library i mean

[zenith hare]

you can still sell drops with ur insane monster mat income

and blood bones still drop a lot of coins

[woeful karma]

yeah but that takes a lot of time and effort

[wicked birch]

you need twice the damage as the HP of the mob for 2x MK

[zenith hare]

not with mk!

[woeful karma]

but true

[wicked birch]

and it jusdt gets higher

[woeful karma]

to sell them

[zenith hare]

they've killed namarok in w1 only

[woeful karma]

my warrior
has
golden
numbers

[zenith hare]

no w2 bonuses or beyond

[woeful karma]

the rest don't
he is the big boy of my account

[cerulean meteor]

yea trust me when we say this dude has multikill

[slim mantle]

that guy is the most delayed world progresser you're gonna find around, he has the dmg don't worry about that

[latent bramble]

he would've had mk in w1 if it was enabled kek

[woeful karma]

yes
yues i would have

[zenith hare]

they're now onto w2 and whatever his goal is for that before doing w3

[woeful karma]

also ello acecow

[zenith hare]

tbh not hard to do

[woeful karma]

once the event ends im going to W3

when i have a free day

[zenith hare]

unless you're talking boops

[latent bramble]

fine, fine, he would have had 10-20 tiers of mk in w1

[wicked birch]

oh its thats guy

[zenith hare]

ah fair

[zenith hare]

better~

[woeful karma]

biggest thing is GSB vial

[pure helm]

Did you finish your W2 vials?

[woeful karma]

except for caulifish

[zenith hare]

printer is gonna be insane for you tbh

[zenith hare]

will make bubble grind so much easier

[pure helm]

Ahh, the 99% W2er.

[woeful karma]

unsure if this si good or not

like for the bonus

their decent i think

[zenith hare]

could be better, but considering 0 mk to get it, that's insane

[woeful karma]

MK will make getting them all to diamond easier

[zenith hare]

you'll get dementia within seconds probably

[woeful karma]

you cna see which mobs i kill to grind xp and money lol

[zenith hare]

at least that's how it'll feel like

[woeful karma]

oh shit what?

[wicked birch]

meh needs work

[zenith hare]

with candies yes

[woeful karma]

silence non dimentai skull wood mushrooms

[woeful karma]

oh well i can already do that lol

i think i get almost a dimentai an hour or something need to check

[wicked birch]

but wmush are so bleh

[zenith hare]

yeah but it'll be like 50x less candies usex

[pure helm]

Ya but now you get a bonus for doing it.

[woeful karma]

true

[zenith hare]

if not more

I mean dementia skulls

5mill kills

tbh at bloodbones, you'll probably be getting void coins

[woeful karma]

all i know is printing is going to save everyone from having to suffer skilling to get mats

[woeful karma]

hopfully
would be good for forge and anvil

i need like 1+ lusture t omax it

[zenith hare]

add on selling the useless drops from it

as blood bones are basically useless (the drop)

[woeful karma]

and ive yet to actually create my 9th player
(being lazy)

[zenith hare]

also you're gonna get chiz armour soon!

[wicked birch]

greenstack

[woeful karma]

after 10m they are coin freeness

or something

[zenith hare]

anyways ima go finish up PoH, be back in like 10 mins just at the last 6 bosses

[pure helm]

Ok whats the W3 endgame? 9 blankies and wings for sure.

[wicked birch]

with MK just save em for atoms eventually if your farming them for exp/money

[wicked birch]

player owned house in runescape

[zenith hare]

pantheon of hallownest

[pure helm]

Finish the honker vial could be up there.

[latent bramble]

oh, i should go farm nm chiz cape

[zenith hare]

had the longest abs rad p2 of my life

lasted 3 mins due to how badly I fucked up p1

would've died if I didn't keep a single life blood from pv

1 down, 3 to go

[velvet anchor]

I might not be able to get the choco chip

In jan

[tall jay]

might be a dumb question but whats better efaunt gear or plat gear

[velvet anchor]

Just get dementia 🤷‍♂️

[zenith hare]

you absolutely can! people with 1 month old accounts can!

[zenith hare]

amarok

both cheaper and also overall better

[tall jay]

i don't have the efficiency

[zenith hare]

!gear

[candid scarab]

Gear Recommendations

[true hamlet]

With the mining talents, mining bubble in alch, ironbite and serrated rex rings and a decent pickaxe, you should be able to mine it

[zenith hare]

not if they're w3

dementia armour is normally able to be made by early-mid w4 time

if someone progresses at the average pace

[true hamlet]

Oh then just stick to amarok yeah makes sense

[cold wraith]

brodie what

it takes like 3 weeks from entering w4 to get mats for choco

[zenith hare]

not even that

[cold wraith]

well its an average

a ballpark if you will

i cant wait to get enough for a luckier lad then filter these things

[slim mantle]

How would early w3 know?

[cold wraith]

idk just a hunch

[slim mantle]

Just 1 luckier lad?

[cold wraith]

yep

[slim mantle]

And no divine scarves?

[cold wraith]

erm

what do you need for those

dont tell me its lucky lads

[slim mantle]

2 lucky lads xd

[cold wraith]

freak man

[slim mantle]

So 20total

[cold wraith]

so i need 95

[slim mantle]

Make more luckier lads 🙂

[cold wraith]

hell no

[slim mantle]

Noob

[cold wraith]

actually i need 93

[cold wraith]

you sir should keep quiet

[slim mantle]

I shall not

[cold wraith]

it is 93 cus i have the one necklace from gem shop

[slim mantle]

So? 95

[cold wraith]

grr

actually the divine scarf gives afk gain so ig ill still need it

[slim mantle]

Ihave that necklace too... not that I use it

[cold wraith]

right again my goat

[zenith hare]

I use it on everyone tbh

[slim mantle]

So you swap deathblossom to every char to use?

mine sits here hiding in storage

[cold wraith]

is it worth upgrading to kruk armor or should i keep magma

[slim mantle]

kruk is nice

[brave crater]

Chat how do I get multi tool stamp

[slim mantle]

pig quest, lvl 50 divinity

[zenith hare]

mainly on sb

sometimes on dk, and es when I active it once a year

[slim mantle]

I have it available if I ever feel the need but I mean, when do I truly need the dmg?

[zenith hare]

where Dr pendant

[zenith hare]

es is the main reason tbh

and the dps dummy for more all stat on sb

that's....about it

[slim mantle]

last I used es was the 1 mil ghost grind and tbh I was oneshotting portal mobs the entire duration

[zenith hare]

even up to 350+?

[slim mantle]

duration too short, it was ending at like 320-330

[zenith hare]

it scales quite hard, esp when you have Dr prayer on

[cold wraith]

is it worth to wait till div 80 to start unlocking gods past purrmep for the extra points/hr

[slim mantle]

well I don't use dr prayer on es, I'm not at that kind of dmg :p but still

[zenith hare]

smh

but still: when Dr pendant!

[slim mantle]

enough dmg to get a ghost most portal kills past some point

[slim mantle]

pls do give lava ideas, but make it gemshop, not bundle :p

[zenith hare]

just make it like a lucky lad pendant (and ofc a luckier lad pendant)

needs 1/2 of each, maybe some w6 boss drop, and some dark lanterns

[slim mantle]

eww dark lanterns, those are pain, can't leave my chars afk there anymore cuz hole

[zenith hare]

tbh I do want to active es that at some point

main reason I'm focusing damage on es rn actually

[slim mantle]

it reaches the odds that I don't considder active es worth it anymore

[tall jay]

im super early world 4

[zenith hare]

tbh at our stage, dk is likely just gonna be better

for dark lantern grind

[brave crater]

Oke what enemy’s are best for money

[slim mantle]

wouldn't say better but have more purpose grinding them actively

[zenith hare]

40x Dr multiplied by the 500 orb is massive

[brave crater]

My maestro is cooked

I need money

[zenith hare]

the furthest you have unlocked normally

[brave crater]

K bet

[slim mantle]

ya know main reason I did active es for 1 mil ghosts was just cuz ghost is a 1 in 2000 kinda drop making es much more effective than candy, but the worse the odds get the more attractive candy becomes

[zenith hare]

me want mittens of the gods

[zenith hare]

it's only 50x worse odds tbf

[slim mantle]

for slab? kruk weapon is better otherwhise cuz mob respawn

[slim mantle]

yes but you get A LOT more than 50x as many ghosts than u would get lanterns :p

[zenith hare]

which means you'll get 20k lanterns in same active time

tho ig lower portal kills

[brave crater]

I’ve cause 16 apocalypses

[slim mantle]

even at equal portal kills

[zenith hare]

cause big jump in hp

[slim mantle]

you just almost guarantee a ghost drop at some point, you don't come anywhere near doing that for lanterns

[zenith hare]

it shouldn't be 100%, at best maybe 1/4 chance

what's the Dr scaling at talent 300+? been a while since I've seen the talent

on the kill per wormhole mob I mean

[slim mantle]

I said almost, not entirely :p feels more like 1/3 to 1/2 honestly which is pretty damn good

[zenith hare]

1/2 is effectively 1000x dr

[zenith hare]

I assume closer to 1/4, but due to massive kills you get it seems more

0.144*320

average of ab 200/300x Dr via portal

[slim mantle]

maybe, I didn't actually bother checking full gain of 1 portal

[zenith hare]

ab 10% chance to drop

I think?

not using normal distribution as ofc you're not at 320 portal all the time

still amazingly high for a 1/2k drop

[slim mantle]

was getting a lot of ghosts per portal tho, definatly more than 10% chance cuz if we would say that's the average over the entire portal then portal is only like 32-33 ghosts, I was definatly getting several times that

[zenith hare]

base mobs drop em still

[slim mantle]

yes but way less

[zenith hare]

and that's still ab 30-40x Dr on em

which probably adds like 60 ghosts a portal

if not more

bige numbers basically

[slim mantle]

I want to say I was getting atleast double that judging by my ghosts per x hours farm

I would test it but cba to go swap all the gear again

[bronze moth]

I AM SO CLOSE TO CRAFTING ANVIL TAB 3

i saved up 13 unlocks in task board for tab 3

[pure helm]

Thats almost all of them. Luckily you dont need unlocks after tab 4.

[worn raptor]

not bad

[brazen mica]

Which pets have the breedable perk?

[slim mantle]

every pet has a breedable variant which you get at random, they have a pink background and a heart icon

[brazen mica]

Ohhhh, do they only unlock once you get level 1 in the breedablility pulse skill

[slim mantle]

yes

[brazen mica]

Ahhh thanks

[tribal sparrow]

what the max lvl for this?

[slim mantle]

50

this lists max levels https://idleon.wiki/wiki/Special_Talents#Special_Talents_Page_1

[tribal sparrow]

thanks bro

[bronze moth]

LETS GOOO

[forest remnant]

What considered a good avg dmg mid world 4?

[bronze moth]

i have around 100k mid w4

[weary sphinx]

Big damage 😎

[steady cove]

OK, I got a snake shiny a couple days ago. It now shows +4 infinite stars. I have the rift unlocked for the first 5 to be infinite already, but I'm not seeing the +4? Do i need to visit the actual telescope in w1? ***Visiting the telescope didn't work -> Relog fixed

[bronze moth]

imma grind for plat tools

[raven mist]

Whats the cost of the first megafish for roo?

[bronze moth]

I can't even do w2 moonmoon td because of my tower dmg 😭

imma pause pushing for a bit to focus on skilling

[weary sphinx]

Rip TD can be rough without the equinox dream

[raven mist]

when is equinox unlocked?

[weary sphinx]

World 3 the second portal at mustaches get you to detodated rams

Portal after that get you to blood bones

You farm blood bones for the mirror

[ionic widget]

Does anyone know the chances for a Plunderous mob to spawn?

[weary sphinx]

The mirror takes you to equinox

[upbeat cargo]

2% but you can increase it with vman to 4%

if you're thinking of doing the achievement it will probably take several days...

[ionic widget]

Several days? More like weeks at this rate

Also, how can the VMan increase the chances?

[upbeat cargo]

yeah, probably months even

[upbeat cargo]

the eclipse talent enhancement gives you double plunderous chance (thus 4%) and automatic spawn at 100 coins, it makes active SB work

[outer harness]

I feel a bit dumb for this but I've gotten all of the 3D printer upgrades in construction and can sample on my 7th and 8th characters but their printer slots are still locked, was there something else I need to do before I can print with them?

[molten kestrel]

wait.. i didnt even know this.. i should check mine lol

[upbeat cargo]

maybe levelling construction iihtg

[molten kestrel]

maybe try send them to world 3 first if they havent?

[true hamlet]

2nd page?

[outer harness]

I think so

oh damn I'm stupid, thank youu

[weary sphinx]

Yeah need to click on the printer or sumthin

Works the same with alchemy

[outer harness]

yeah idk why I didn't even see it lmao

[raven bronze]

Does anyone know how the essence transferral bubo talent works specifically?

I’ve been looking at my other toon’s lab levels and they aren’t going up at all when my bubo gets like a 20M lab xp drop

Done both ways already

Over multiple days

[oblique knoll]

where do you idle your hunter after getting es for mod farming?

[tribal sparrow]

gmush kills/ forge

[floral crest]

Uh talent link? https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/e/2PACX-1vST3HcgBgeq8H9jztaMhUXZAAAHl120PvDVo_48qJpn6n9qnpa-TWmuG_kN9cmtr66M-OtO482XIOAk/pubhtml

[tribal sparrow]

thanks bro

[floral crest]

np

[jade kindle]

for w4 should my players all have iron tools for there non specific skills

[upbeat cargo]

you can neglect that bit until you get to w5 or w6 when you get access to better upgrade stones and your equipment talent level is higher

[raven mist]

dont you get special ones from w4 for stats

[upbeat cargo]

do you mean the poop tools or that you already get mainstat stones

[raven mist]

like the upgrade stones

you get specific stats based on the skill who put them on the tool

i think they do that idk if thats w5

[upbeat cargo]

poop tools have like 6 upgrade slots

obviously you don't want to use them for skilling with them but they are great for stats

[floral crest]

ye they do

[raven bronze]

Found the issue. Apparently bubo essence transferral doesn’t work if you have EXP Converter star talent active on bubo.

[floral crest]

Alright I can afk now

[cold wraith]

why would you have that on

[pallid kernel]

Best talent in the game. What would a stupid waffle like you know

[cold wraith]

igh bro

is coo

[pallid kernel]

Love you

[cold wraith]

nah imma do my own

[pallid kernel]

Don’t be like that, I’m sure you are a very intelligent waffle

[raven bronze]

Had it set ages ago, forgot about it

[cold wraith]

more like missing brain

[pallid kernel]

Those are overrated anyways

[cold wraith]

thanks man i feel better

[steady cove]

Had the SAME issue lol

[raven bronze]

Lol bug reported it, but not as serious anymore

[tribal sparrow]

finished resampling now back to another problem, where did my dr go. missing 1x

[upbeat cargo]

keychains

[tribal sparrow]

hmm still missing .80x dr. card, obols, keychains, chips are ok

damage is suspiciously high than i can remember.

[mint fractal]

do i run speed pot or str pot for active play on es

[tribal sparrow]

speed for tiny bit of addtional damage.

[mint fractal]

thats what im confused about with str i do 1.1m with speed my max is 900k, but on the afk info speed get more kill per hour

[latent bramble]

strength pots got a massive buff this last patch

normally better to run those for active now

[mint fractal]

thx

[latent bramble]

speed might still be better for afk

[mint fractal]

ye with str afk was 1.1k per hour with speed 1.3k per hour

200 more kills

[rain scroll]

hi

[neon sphinx]

Are there any ways to deal more than 1 damage with my character while doing the worship battles?

[rain scroll]

nope

[neon sphinx]

Welp, is there a guide to doing those kinds of battles?

[rain scroll]

yes

there was a google doc i forgot where tho

[tribal sparrow]

ahh restarting the game did the trick. was doin 16.7 dr but with stronk damage 200M - 400M sus.

[mint fractal]

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/e/2PACX-1vSCepYAs6sNDP4iq6MJNAG1pvFXzfC_3IQ7ttt5vfEEKAgQhIk4cQqnLRyeH6UyqDSuP4R-6WQeDmmP/pubhtml#

[rain scroll]

my refinery out of mats again uhh sand and horn and void bars

[runic coral]

print em in large scale

[runic coral]

u need more dmg

[tribal sparrow]

yeah. unfortunately soft lock on equinox for 100k ladles matching scims and other equinox quest that are doable are only luckier lad. others are time gated .

thankfuly doin some consistent progress on stamps and bubbles.

[runic coral]

hole go max that shit would give give u more dmg

[floral crest]

Worth 1 hour 30 min

[tribal sparrow]

still doing bravery afk currently at 1923 hours and 9m more exp till lvl 10 explorer.

[floral crest]

[forest portal]

l think lm delaying my lad grind is that good or bad

[runic coral]

why so little time on monument

[runic coral]

eh maybe maybe not

[indigo stratus]

What do i do if i can't push rift further?
I just set everyone to gnush for money

[solemn tulip]

is it better to collect traps using trapper drone or beast master?

[indigo stratus]

Set with trapper drone but collect with beast master for shinies

[fossil cairn]

Do something else, some things like the regenerating stages are dmg checks, no chance to pass if you don't have enough. Cooking and alchemy are good ways to get most things up.

[indigo stratus]

Set with vman with silkskin if going for exp and still collect beastmaster

[indigo stratus]

I'm currently stucky 47 with siege breaker so I'll wait a bit and up dmg

[rain scroll]

yay finally reached 700 rating in chess 😭

[astral lava]

Lol

[zenith hare]

think I'm at 1550 now

puzzles I'm 2600

[astral lava]

I didn't play chess for a long time, but I can say I'm intermediate

[zenith hare]

intermediate is 1200+ iirc

[astral lava]

Keith, wanna play a chess round?

[zenith hare]

@rain scroll (just so he sees)

[astral lava]

Ye thx

[rain scroll]

sure

[rain scroll]

nice 1550 is good

[astral lava]

Send a match request or anything like that

[rain scroll]

check dm

[wild quiver]

hello how do i unlock traping, im in jungle with trap equiped by no frogs spawn

[tribal sparrow]

ive grind some lab and and div 40. before doin hole

[runic coral]

i see

[zenith hare]

have you talked to the hunter npc to the left of w3 town?

[cunning ruin]

What pets to use in pet battles? There is some spreadsheet but I cant find it

[zenith hare]

what pets do you have unlocked? and how many slots

[cunning ruin]

4 slots, these pets + first one from w4

[zenith hare]

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[candid scarab]

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[zenith hare]

just tell me how far into w1/2/3 pets you are. what's the latest one

[cunning ruin]

gigafrog and duck

[zenith hare]

very early: aim to get nutto in w1, and snelbie in w2

when you do get nutto (aim for this first) you can use carrot, wode board, globlin, and nutto to unlock the 5th pet slot

[cunning ruin]

Is it possible for me to unlcok crypt spice rn?

[zenith hare]

likely not no

crypt is quite late on in the spices, at ur stage twilight desert should be very hard

[cunning ruin]

I have twilight unlocked

I need crypt for new meals

[zenith hare]

yes and your pets unlocked shouldn't even allow you past the one after twilight desert without insanely high pet power for ur stage

[rain scroll]

how is this possible bro? @zenith hare

thats nothing to display he played only these few games and have so high rating

to be exact 1 game

[true hamlet]

Are there any guides on how to really get started on cooking and breeding?

[zenith hare]

because the rating system starts like that

[rain scroll]

it does? i dont think so uhh

[zenith hare]

you get massive changes in rating in your first few games. and if you win 2/5 of the first 5 rated games of the account your base is set at 1200

[rain scroll]

this is mine

[zenith hare]

and he likely chose a higher level then you did

[white lintel]

here

@true hamlet

[zenith hare]

@true hamlet ^

[rain scroll]

oh ig

[astral lava]

Welp, he defeated me

[rain scroll]

i chose like newbie or something

[zenith hare]

he's surprisingly good

[astral lava]

My prime was alot better

[zenith hare]

def higher than 700

[astral lava]

Ye true

[zenith hare]

you don't go out of ur prime till you're like 50 btw

[rain scroll]

xD

[zenith hare]

it's a mental exercise

[astral lava]

Well, I didn't play chess for a long time

[zenith hare]

if it was within a year, you're fine. or even 3

[rain scroll]

play a few games u will be back in a few games 🙂

just need some oiling

[astral lava]

Exactly

[astral lava]

Lol ye

[rain scroll]

its kinda hard to climb its +8 on win 0 on draw and -8 on loss

how? @stuck fable

oo this

i just did +25 on that

i did +25 to -400 xD i wanna find a new player and defeat once xD

[astral lava]

Hey Bean

@zenith hare How should I prio upgrading these?

[rain scroll]

cool

[true hamlet]

Would it make sense to slow down a bit, quickly grind the mats for void armor then push really quickly to the end of w4?

[honest reef]

should i save event points for next event or is 20% afk worth

[static geode]

How am I suposed to clear rift 1?

killing 500 monsters under 5 mins

[zenith hare]

pretty easy on dk/es, reminder that rift is intended to be done mid w5 time

equip move speed potions, use the proper talents, and upgrade your weapon for better basic attack speed

[static geode]

Elemental soccerer, at what level should I be?

[zenith hare]

it's honestly the easiest of the challenges

level doesn't matter

[static geode]

What do rifts give me

[zenith hare]

a lot of people think it does...it really doesn't, level 90 can suffice, but a level 200 can also still fail

[zenith hare]

lots of amazing permanent bonuses every 5 completed rifts

[simple fable]

Help

[zenith hare]

first one auto claims your traps on a daily reset

[simple fable]

How get book

[zenith hare]

you can't book talents that get buffed by other talents

[fallen ridge]

u can't for that talent

[static geode]

I'll level a bit more to oneshot monsters

[simple fable]

Does LUK affect Trapper stuff?

[zenith hare]

it could also be ur card set, ur gear, ur cards, shrines, obols, talents, ignoring some important skill (all of them are important, don't ignore any)

[zenith hare]

the skill xp part later on when you get vman and his enhance to 250

[simple fable]

How do you get the ability to set additional traps?

That's gonna take a while

Man I fucked myself up by being too efficient, I did two days of trapping just to realize that the quest that let me have 3d printers required me to set traps AFTER the fact

[magic cargo]

How am I supposed to use left hand of learning and the other ability for mastreo

These ones

[zenith hare]

it isnt

[zenith hare]

you need to not skill on ur other chars

the printer exists, you don't need to skill for resources anymore

only for tool upgrades and portal unlocks for mining

[magic cargo]

ohhhhh

ok

[zenith hare]

right hand is the important one and why everyone drops skilling for it

[magic cargo]

ty

[dense egret]

How do i get a large amount of mob drops

[slim mantle]

Depends a bit on where ur at in the game. Early on? Es active farming them thanks to wormhole. Later on? Vman prints it

[dense egret]

What even is es farming

And what is the wormhole

[slim mantle]

Es = elemental sorcerer

Wormhole is one of its talents

[dense egret]

I'm about to reach the 4th map in W3 is that where I get the sub sub classes(idk what they call em)

[slim mantle]

Elite class. That's 4th map w4

[dense egret]

Oh it's W4 so I'm basically stuck like this for like a week more

[slim mantle]

Wouldn't worry too much about farming monster drops before getting es. What do u want it for anyway?

[dense egret]

Alchemy upgrades

[slim mantle]

Those can wait till later its fine. This early ur liquid locked anyway, focus on skilling bubbles

Or fmj/shaquracy

[dense egret]

I need a lot of accuracy

And im doing a lot of random stuff for it

[slim mantle]

Make sure ur not skipping over a source of accuracy then. To name some sources: both clickers, dungeon flurbo shop, starsigns, cards, cardset

[dense egret]

I know the rest what what are starsigns

[slim mantle]

Have u gone to the top of the tree in w1? U can interact with a telescope there to unlock the mechanic

The constellations u come across on maps are for ur starsigns. Some passive buffs basically

[dense egret]

I went to the tree like once then saw how much stronger they were compared to the other W1 mobs and got outa there

[slim mantle]

Well go explore to the top of the tree. At the top u also find a mob who drops an accuracy card

[dense egret]

Now wth is a constellation

[slim mantle]

?wiki Constellations

[cursive walrus]

https://idleon.wiki/wiki/Constellations

[faint willow]

Does cookin give you dense water?

[slim mantle]

No

[faint willow]

Then i have no idea how i got it

[slim mantle]

Bought in alchemy

Maybe the odd quest, not sure, but other than that alchemy is the only way

[static geode]

Bought with a 3rd liquid

[static geode]

I think

[faint willow]

I went back from walking the dog, logged on my cooking Blood Berserker, and he had Many laddles, 12 eggs, and 15 dense water for some reason

[obtuse pendant]

What does star mean?

[faint willow]

And i have no idea why

How Many chars should i keep in early lab

I should probably focus on leveling some for using the lab efficiency gear

[slim mantle]

this quest

[slim mantle]

u got the x3 output buff from the god without the x2 from lab (if u do have lab don't worry, this happens often, just a visual bug)

[faint willow]

Ohhh, you aré right

[magic haven]

Are griffybit video's good and i should follow?

[slim mantle]

all but 1, that 1 gets elite class, when gotten elite u cycle them out untill everyone is elite, then u push with 1

[obtuse pendant]

Yeah I just realized, thanks. I forgot he has goat now

[torpid acorn]

what golden foods should i be using on my pushing DK?

[leaden isle]

Can wooden crate trap generate shinies at all?

[lone jetty]

Mostly good

Yes na

[astral lava]

ES is the best for farming w4 and w5 boss keys right?

[cold wraith]

did you ever see my image of damage

[astral lava]

Ye, 14T ig

[cold wraith]

it cahnged

[astral lava]

Congrats

[astral lava]

Still lower than mine

[cold wraith]

grr

[floral crest]

Alright I finally got a place where to decide in talent books cuz I keep sidetracking myself

[cold wraith]

yes

[tender ocean]

same

[zenith hare]

which one next

[zenith hare]

i definitely dont have 260 books stored up rn

[slim mantle]

I feel that, I keep stacking up books cuz whenever I remember I'm on a character thats maxed out already lol

[floral crest]

I will get there eventually surely

[zenith hare]

gotta love pcs

[visual gyro]

I got 25k nullo salt now and a one full kruk set is it enough to get the rest?

[zenith hare]

9.5k nullo salt a set

[visual gyro]

Ty

[visual gyro]

Wait its not 40k nullo to gear everyone?

[zenith hare]

never has been

[visual gyro]

Shit

[zenith hare]

maybe you're thinking that diabolical is 4k a set

[harsh patrol]

How does the worship save work?

[zenith hare]

never used it

hate worship so haven't done it in like 4 months

[harsh patrol]

You dont need souls?

[visual gyro]

He got quick worship from the automation arm

[zenith hare]

and also quick worship is on every totem anyways

[harsh patrol]

Sure but youd need to reach higher wave

[zenith hare]

I'm at 150 or higher on all of em

ive maxed all the vials so eh

[cold wraith]

nuh uh

[zenith hare]

minus pearler, hampter, dreadlo, godshard, ball Joe, and pickle Joe, I have

[cold wraith]

mhm thats what i thought

[slim mantle]

at some point u don't really need more :p