midgame-chat-w3🧊w4🔮

[sleek pollen]

also don't worry at one point when you get a certain bonus from w5 you go back to lab jail

[dusk ledge]

What about ores and logs and things like that?

[slim mantle]

printer

[dusk ledge]

Those are filled with green mushroom prints

[slim mantle]

get rid of those once you get ES

[dusk ledge]

oh, ok

[mint fractal]

whats the recommend potion for es for active pushing, this is what im currently using, any suggestion?

[sleek pollen]

heal food + speed pot

tho if you struggle with mana regen just gotta need more mana because more mana = mana regen

[mint fractal]

why speed pot

for quick slap?

[slim mantle]

no need for speed pot at all

[sleek pollen]

welp forget what I said then

[latent bramble]

[sleek pollen]

occido has spoken my 'advice' is now invalid

[agile willow]

speed pot helps if you're afk

[slim mantle]

https://tenor.com/view/ancohrman-the-legend-of-ron-burgundy-will-ferrell-im-kind-of-a-big-deal-big-deal-gif-4571172

[agile willow]

and not hitting max base kills

[sleek pollen]

ah right

[latent bramble]

helps if you're melee trying to get elites

cause damn my barb crawls around the map

[dusk ledge]

So if I need a resource, I let them out of the lab, snapshot the print, and back in they go?

[slim mantle]

pretty much

[dusk ledge]

I see

[mint fractal]

also im i suppose to upgrade my tools for accuracy stats and not main stats to reach 100% accuracy for this dude

[sleek pollen]

what you expect me to do with that read rectangle? like read whats in it?

[dusk ledge]

Everyone knows idleon players can't read

[slim mantle]

don't have to anymore since the clickers made accuracy easy but if ur slacking behind on accuracy it's always an option

[sleek pollen]

also shaqu and precision prayer

[dusk ledge]

*shaqracy

fmj is defense

[sleek pollen]

yeah been too long since I've not leveled those fker

[slim mantle]

better get started :p

[forest portal]

what is one of the best things to boost damage cuz lm strugling abit

[sleek pollen]

nooooo

[slim mantle]

talents

[sleek pollen]

talent, gear, stamp, bubble, clicker, card, star sign, card set choose whats best for you

[slim mantle]

I neglected them for too long aswell, they're low lvl, don't make my neglecting mistake

[dusk ledge]

Mine are 16, and, uh, 8

[forest portal]

mine is like 100😢

[dusk ledge]

Bloaches suck ass

[slim mantle]

not rlly abnormal for early w4

[dusk ledge]

Ye, only at demon genies

[forest portal]

why is shaqu so important in late game cant u just hit everything alr

[slim mantle]

other than: look, big number? in w5 hole u got a mechanic where having high accuracy helps

[dusk ledge]

I think there is a star talent that it gives you crit if you have like 200% acc

overaccurate crits I think?

[slim mantle]

crit chance is not a problem at all, we go FAR beyond the needs of crit

[dusk ledge]

ya this

[slim mantle]

at most we need 200%

[dusk ledge]

but occido is way beyond that lol

[sudden coral]

is this good?

[forest portal]

now we need a super mega crit

[wicked birch]

need help with a 4 pet team to 115 for dream

[dusk ledge]

and super mega ultra crit, and super mega ultra omega crit, and etc etc

[sleek pollen]

its alright tho useless once you cap skill speed

[sudden coral]

whats the cap for skill speed

[dusk ledge]

I did not know there was one lol

[slim mantle]

62 for mining and chopping and afaia none for fishing and catching

[sudden coral]

62/min?

[sleek pollen]

62 what 62. 62k 62m! precision occido!

[forest portal]

#1084911530417606656

[sudden coral]

damn okay

[forest portal]

there is a guide for that

[slim mantle]

peapod looter gap refiller gap borger

[dusk ledge]

62m a minute would be hilarious, the animation would be every frame

[wicked birch]

thats 6 homie

[left canopy]

i just noticed my BB's damage is absolutely HORRIBLE so they are going to w6

[forest portal]

gap does not count

[slim mantle]

if only it wasn't capped, we would go much higher

[slim mantle]

gap isn't a pet... it's you leaving an open space....

[sleek pollen]

fk yeah I don't know how to read once again ffs

[dusk ledge]

everyone knows, bigger number = better person

[wicked birch]

ah i dont have 6th spot

[pallid kernel]

You are better than this dad

[slim mantle]

then peapod looter refiller gap borger but jesus fuck what are you doing at that equinox without having arena finished

[sleek pollen]

https://tenor.com/bj7mQ.gif

[wicked birch]

equinox is easy

[forest portal]

nope

[slim mantle]

so is arena

[wicked birch]

https://tenor.com/view/corny-cheesy-lol-what-goat-gif-4962218

[slim mantle]

you barely need any power for arena, just some early game pets

[pallid kernel]

If you have peapod unlocked, then there’s no excuse not having 200 arena

[wicked birch]

i dont understand pet strategy thats why im here. equinox is just a grind fest

[wicked birch]

i do not

[dusk ledge]

ES or DK better for pushing?

[forest portal]

l just need burger and l can get 6th slot

[pallid kernel]

Oh then don’t worry about the challenge

[wicked birch]

i have that one

[pallid kernel]

Still possible, but extremely rng dependent.

[sudden coral]

ayo what the heck is this??

[dusk ledge]

I am leaning DK for pushing, but if someone can lean harder to ES, lmk

[wicked birch]

trying to clear dreams for sneak mastery

[pallid kernel]

Crappy cooking speed

[pallid kernel]

That’s rift

[sudden coral]

huh?? im at E30 cooking speed

[forest portal]

its fire speed

[slim mantle]

pretty much give up on that equinox then until you do

[left canopy]

any tips to boost my BB's stats

[sudden coral]

how much do i need lol

[wicked birch]

yea you right, but i mean both tho

lol

[pallid kernel]

Wait what meal are you trying to get

[pallid kernel]

Is that the recipe listed in IE?

[wicked birch]

corgi is the peapod right?

[forest portal]

yes

[wicked birch]

fuck

[forest portal]

lol

[slim mantle]

dk basically is the safe option of I definatly do not wanna risk dieing, es is the faster option in early game but early on may struggle a bit with mana and surviving

[sudden coral]

only have these left

[sleek pollen]

DK in w4 then ES in w5 when you have better gear so he survives better

[sudden coral]

ah wait the wiki says i need lullaby airways but i can still get it without?

[dusk ledge]

Best gear I got atm is dementia

[slim mantle]

I did es and would do it all over again xD

[wicked birch]

I pushed all the way the w6 with es from start. oops

[slim mantle]

dementia is overkill in w4 :p

[dusk ledge]

good to hear

[pallid kernel]

Just use whatever IE tells you to, I easily got those meals at your cooking speed

[forest portal]

l am so under prepared for w6

[slim mantle]

struggles in pushing is pretty much lacking bonusses elsewhere than gear

[pallid kernel]

That’s the point

[sudden coral]

u sure? the previous meal took 6 mins this one says 16 days for whatever reason

[wicked birch]

me2, i just rushed to unlock town skills

[forest portal]

yup

ldk why lm even pushing w6

[sleek pollen]

amarok gear

[slim mantle]

w6 is just a jump, it's supposed to beat ur ass into submission when u first arrive

[dusk ledge]

So is w4 just lab->killer brightside ->push to w5?

[sleek pollen]

yeah killer brightside make your pushing life twice better

[forest portal]

l can barly 1 shot any thing

[slim mantle]

you push already before you get killer brightside and you don't stop lab when u reach it either

[white path]

Until w7 releases and w6 becomes easy

[sleek pollen]

while anything can one shot me

[forest portal]

not if u use dk

[slim mantle]

we'll see what it's like

[sleek pollen]

by that time surely all people present rn have finished w6

tho yeah w7 will rock even harder

[left canopy]

i will wake up to construction mastery tomorrow

[sleek pollen]

then don't go to sleep

[wicked birch]

finally have sneak mastery soon. couple more rift lvls

[pallid kernel]

Not really, I just know meals shouldn’t take that long at e30

[forest portal]

lm still at rift 30 stupid afk shit

[sudden coral]

well the wiki and ie says i need lullaby airways, but on the kitchen it says i have 18% chance to get it without that spice

[dusk ledge]

imagine knowing what rift is lol

[sudden coral]

but for whatever reason it says the recipe cooking will take 16 days

[wicked birch]

its a w4 thing

[sleek pollen]

wiki show the better combination for fastest

[dusk ledge]

I guess I have just not gotten to it then ig

[wicked birch]

like 2nd to last map you open it up

[sudden coral]

soo...just keep dumping like 1000 ladles into the new recipe in hopes of getting it ?

[pallid kernel]

If ie says lullaby is needed, then that’s the one I prob used. That’s why mine didn’t take that long

[pallid kernel]

Nah just wait until airways

[sudden coral]

problem is i've only got 2/3 characters on leeks, struggling to get everyone at leeks to move onto airways

[sleek pollen]

whats bonus dmg and golden food bonus anyway

[forest portal]

when is the next sprit lock after the wood thing

[pallid kernel]

It will happen eventually. Not like your account is gonna crash and burn if you don’t immediately get the next meal

[dusk ledge]

egg go brrr

[sudden coral]

no of course not but i've been stuck at leeks for like 3 months

[stray ember]

What does the meal your trying to make do?

[pallid kernel]

How

[forest portal]

what the

[sleek pollen]

lock at leek and after

[pallid kernel]

You get like 50 kph?

[sleek pollen]

with 5 char needed to unlock it

[stray ember]

Are there more lock after leek?

[forest portal]

ok l still have like 2 more

[pallid kernel]

One more

[pallid kernel]

Sky doggies

[stray ember]

Thanks

[sleek pollen]

so yeah leek and skydoggies

[forest portal]

at lest with void u can skip the first one

[sudden coral]

that's my dk and it takes forever to mvoe

[forest portal]

mine is like half and lm still at bamboo

[sleek pollen]

I know there's prayer that boost kill for portal count but is that worth for in w6?

[stray ember]

Im getting my chars to catch up to bubo and vman

[forest portal]

prob not

[pallid kernel]

Are you even one shotting?

[sudden coral]

yup

[forest portal]

l remebered having that on my es and it took away like 10k of my kills per hour

[stray ember]

Shouldn't you js use the div guy to get 2x kills on portals

[forest portal]

yea

[pallid kernel]

Huh well I just waited until I had mk to push

[sleek pollen]

ofc nobi + killer brightside activated before pushing

[sudden coral]

i active farm a lot on dk, maybe thats the problem?

[stray ember]

Killer brightside? Is that the bubble?

[sleek pollen]

lab node

[pallid kernel]

Is that ss with a dr set up?

[stray ember]

Oh yeah i got that lol

[sudden coral]

yh

[pallid kernel]

Why are you pushing with a dr set up

[sudden coral]

well the only thing dr prioritised is the cards

[sleek pollen]

imagine recipe dropping 🤑

[chilly oasis]

If you have Golden Nomwiches or Golden Kebabs, those help too with your damage if you need it. In theory butter-looking Golden Food from Catching helps with accuracy, but it's negligable

[sleek pollen]

you'll eventually get your cards if you push with like 5 char

[pallid kernel]

If damage cards get you to mk, your kph will shoot up dramatically

[sudden coral]

i guess but i don't think i can hit the mk on other chars

some chars only have 0.1-0.3T damage

[scenic crypt]

whats the best build for a starter?

[pallid kernel]

I just didn’t push until I got mk

[clever dagger]

what is meals max lv ?

90 ?

[pallid kernel]

Yep

[left canopy]

Any class to push w1 it doesn’t matter much at all, hunter w2 and w3, DK/ES active w4 and beyond (depends on damage and survivability of your ES), BB afk w4 and beyond. Get one of each class (w2 subclasses first) then a jman (who will later become a vman) and then get a second DK, ES, and SB

For almost anything in the game, focus on your alchemy and your prints. (W2 and w3 features respectively)

[dusk ledge]

So should I still work on roo and owl, or is that punted until lab is done?

I am currently at 5 fractal feathers for owl and have not gotten all the megafish yet for roo (at the marlin atm)

[white lintel]

QQ dmg achieved, peak

[raven mist]

Is there a bonus in lab that increases those?

Thought they were their own seperate thing

[dusk ledge]

I honestly don't know

[pallid kernel]

Those?

[dusk ledge]

they are, but I was told to stick all my characters in lab except one

[dusk ledge]

roo and owl

[raven mist]

The owl and roo he was talking about

[pallid kernel]

Oh theres not

[dusk ledge]

but I presume I should keep working on them

[raven mist]

I mean no harm in it

[pallid kernel]

Yeah. The soft cap is prob around feather 14 and fish 6

[forest portal]

hi

[pallid kernel]

Hi

[forest portal]

when shd u start regular reset for roo?

[pallid kernel]

When you can’t do mega resets anymore

[forest portal]

which is what lvl

[pallid kernel]

Prob around 4 or 5 I think

[forest portal]

farctal?

[pallid kernel]

Yeah

Fartctal lmao I like that

[forest portal]

spelling to good

i messed up so badly for roo

yay l got lucky lad from active

first one

[topaz owl]

where should i farm world 3 statue

[cold wraith]

you use es

[rain scroll]

hi

[cold wraith]

cryosnake for saw. quenchie for two soul. penguin for box. youll get exp statues from crystals as you farm so put choco on

@topaz owl

[latent bramble]

my first one

[sleek pollen]

deposit now and big money ahead

[rain scroll]

i did what nothing to display said all statues on dk

[cold wraith]

have you onyx w3

[rain scroll]

no

only did w1 i think

[cold wraith]

oh

dang

[rain scroll]

u have done?

[cold wraith]

im doing w3 rn

i have heart donen but havent turned it in

[rain scroll]

pro

[cold wraith]

eh

[hidden violet]

Guys should I craft the gathering sets in anvil 2 for my miner etc? Or not needed

[rain scroll]

which site is this

i forgot name

[cold wraith]

idk im only doing this cus i dont want to progress on anything else

[cold wraith]

!it

[candid scarab]

https://idleontoolbox.com/ - Unofficial 3rd party site made by Morojo

[rain scroll]

which section is it in?

[latent bramble]

account

[cold wraith]

dang mr richie rich with the gems

only up to starfire coins?

[rain scroll]

yep poor...

[cold wraith]

dang

[rain scroll]

i can reach the red one tho not too hard

[cold wraith]

i got up to godshard

[rain scroll]

prooooo

[cold wraith]

thats only cus ive been pumping gmush kills for more coins

[rain scroll]

do u have ram?

[cold wraith]

yea

[rain scroll]

i need ram to max vials ;-;

[cold wraith]

what why

[rain scroll]

esp the snake vial

[cold wraith]

just print

[rain scroll]

print very bad..

[cold wraith]

see i print on vman

[rain scroll]

my prints would suck

[cold wraith]

after i get goblin ears maxed im going to reprint for beans, rat tails, mimic teeth, tusks, pens, and the iceballs

if i do that and max dust motes and kraken ill have 27 vials

[pallid kernel]

Yooooo Keith and waffle

2 of my favorite people

[cold wraith]

traitor

[pallid kernel]

Yooo Keith

[cold wraith]

TRAITOR

[pallid kernel]

1 of my favorite people

[cold wraith]

GRR

[pallid kernel]

Are you killing world bosses before sampling waffle

[cold wraith]

erm what

must be trolling

haha funny joke

oh are you talkin about vman speedrun

cus yea i kill on nightmare

[pallid kernel]

This raises samples I’m pretty sure

[rain scroll]

how r u bro

[cold wraith]

yea i think that increases the mk bonus from the other ability cus more portals

[pallid kernel]

I’m pretty good wbu, feel like I haven’t seen you in awhile

[cold wraith]

me three

[pallid kernel]

I’m talking about the mob respawn

[cold wraith]

o

regardless of the fact yea i do kill bosses

rn im js chillin till goblin ear is maxed

also disregarding the fact that ive completely ignored progression outside of onyx statues

[pallid kernel]

Then you are doing better than I was. I used to just go to the place I need to sample and then end my run

[cold wraith]

wait zero theres an imposter in w5 chat

[pallid kernel]

I sent my goons after him

[cold wraith]

i pushed portals until the ability was ready then i popped and tp for sample

[cold wraith]

thought i was seeing things for a second there

[pallid kernel]

Yeah I usually kill amarok, effaunt, and chiz before I sample

[cold wraith]

i cant make it to chiz quick enough

i dont have enough seconds and not enough dmg for mk

im lvling up deathnote in construction rn to prep for the speedrun

[pallid kernel]

What’s your max talent level

[cold wraith]

215? i think

[pallid kernel]

Surprised you haven’t maxed it yet

[cold wraith]

yeaaa about that..

i was lvling up wizard towers and atom collider instead of the early things

i only recently maxed out cost cruncher

[pallid kernel]

All of the wizard towers?

[cold wraith]

poison, kraken, party, ice, boulder

[astral lava]

Sup guys

[cold wraith]

and when i didnt have salts for kraken or pison i did crescent shrine

[pallid kernel]

How much slots do you have

[cold wraith]

5

[pallid kernel]

Yo

[pallid kernel]

Oof you should get more

[cold wraith]

how

[pallid kernel]

Gemshop I think

[cold wraith]

ah rip cant

ive been also neglecting my dailies

[pallid kernel]

Whale

[cold wraith]

nuh uh

cant be doing that anymore

also im not dropping 30 on the riftwalker pack

no way jose

[pallid kernel]

I did that today

[astral lava]

I also have 5 slots

[pallid kernel]

It’s the holidays, it’s ok if my wallet gets loose

[pallid kernel]

Smh

[latent bramble]

please let your wallet loose on me

[cold wraith]

o no 🪙 digger

[pallid kernel]

let is past tense. It’s is no longer loose. It is now empty

Wait I didn’t say let

Am I high

[rain scroll]

ye wasnt playing much

[pallid kernel]

Burned out?

[rain scroll]

school also and yea

[pallid kernel]

Are you getting back into it?

[rain scroll]

i think so maybe

[pallid kernel]

It’s sad to see someone with the same general progression falling behind now I just have sarhaq

[cold wraith]

and me

[pallid kernel]

Uhhhhh yeah sure

[cold wraith]

[rain scroll]

xD

[pallid kernel]

Oh and elle

I knew I was forgetting someone

[cold wraith]

he do be forgettable

[pallid kernel]

Wow your mean

@west pilot someone wants to fight you

[cold wraith]

yeaaa.... stick em up

[rain scroll]

what should i do rn? @pallid kernel i dont remember much things

[pallid kernel]

I dunno- onyx, rift, equinox, pushing, stamps, gfood, hole

Whatever you want

[rain scroll]

hole how?

[pallid kernel]

Have you done anything with hole?

[cold wraith]

i love pushing bubo with lv 199 tenteye

and dk without the hand

and acdtive bb

[robust elm]

Addictive bb is a common problem

[pallid kernel]

I love shoving waffle into a locker like a cliche high school bully

[rain scroll]

yes i did but not alot i think

[cold wraith]

erm sorry bud but my 6'2 ass is not fitting in a locker

[rain scroll]

not 200?

[cold wraith]

nope

[pallid kernel]

Lots of good bonuses, practically w5.5

[cold wraith]

lv 199

[rain scroll]

dk hand? what?

[pallid kernel]

Don’t listen to waffle he’s trolling

[rain scroll]

i got slug 2 week ago

🙂 so im happy no ram yet tho

[cold wraith]

i would NEVER troll

[cold wraith]

me with 15 beans and 6 rams

[rain scroll]

dont ask about my sheepie/sandy pot collection

[pallid kernel]

Jealous. I’ll prob never get it

[rain scroll]

thats what i thought too it randomly came

[cold wraith]

i keep feeling excitement then end up with a dumb lookin ram

like why its horns so comically large

[pallid kernel]

Just like you would NEVER breathe or eat

[pallid kernel]

Have you never seen a ram

[cold wraith]

im a waffle i dont need to 💀

[pallid kernel]

I’m eating you rn

Are you strawberry flavored

[cold wraith]

aight bro out of context this is weird asl

[forest portal]

tf is this shit

[pallid kernel]

Not weird if it’s true. Send me your addy

[forest portal]

l aint getting involved bye

[cold wraith]

hi. bye

[cold wraith]

my doctor said not to share my addy prescription with anyone

[pallid kernel]

He just jealous you are about to get ate

[cold wraith]

onb

[robust elm]

It's okay you can trust the weird man on the internet

[cold wraith]

oh!

you are so correct!

[pallid kernel]

The trustworthy man on the internet

The reliable man

[robust elm]

"I'm the most trustworthy man on the internet"
--the man on the internet

[pallid kernel]

But I’m not the man on the internet

I’m the man who lives in waffles walls

[cold wraith]

""'I'm the most trustworthy man on the internet'
--the man on the internet"
--another man on the internet"

[cold wraith]

jokes on you im homeless

[pallid kernel]

I know

[cold wraith]

oh

[robust elm]

I just got a creepypasta backflash or smth from that lol

[pallid kernel]

I meant the walls of your skin

[cold wraith]

aight bro

[pallid kernel]

I’m a parasite

[robust elm]

Walls of your arteries?

Okay I'mma f off now before it gets me. Stay safe

[cold wraith]

im going to be eaeten 💀

[pallid kernel]

Alright good luck not letting it get you

[pallid kernel]

What flavor are you

[cold wraith]

dude idk

[pallid kernel]

How do you not know

[cold wraith]

think of me as a magical flavor that conforms to the eater's preferences

[pallid kernel]

You are transgender

[robust elm]

https://tenor.com/view/awkward-awkward-silence-jack-benny-classic-television-gif-2187782636874867671

[vocal path]

Lab and cooking confuses me, should I leave any of my guys to afk on those?

[latent bramble]

Lab yes, cooking not for now

[rain scroll]

ok im back

[hot oracle]

Can someone help me with pet arena? Im stuck at round 125 because i keep crashing even with high performance mode enabled , is there an ideal setup where i dont dc?

[vocal path]

Ok, and for lab I upload them to unlock the nodes right? How many guys should I throw in there?

[sleek pollen]

if you’re using the recommended one just gotta pray

[hot oracle]

This is what im using , is this the most optimal setup?

[fast ridge]

Optimal doesn't use monolith, it's a lag machine

Maybe another rattler in its place

Or badumdum

[hot oracle]

Alright thanks

[sleek pollen]

yee dumdum

[sleek pollen]

lag + time stop so even longer

[rain scroll]

which box best to max with dk 1st?

post office

my mining/drop/mana maxed

also maxed const now

[sleek pollen]

civil war, death storage and utilitarian capsule

construction box is also a very good box to max asap

then heath, utility and gaming are good for the stats it gives

[rain scroll]

oh i did random ig need more boxes for other

i did some good ones tho

noic

[west pilot]

What

[latent bramble]

ew

[west pilot]

Ew

[rain scroll]

mhmm

[rain scroll]

hi bro how r u

what do i get?

recipe?

pushing vman gonna be hard

to kattlekruk (candy wise)

oh wait i dont have to push it cuz of speedrun skill

[fallen ridge]

just speedrun

[sleek pollen]

yeah pushing with vman is basically pushing with any char then using speedrun so he unlock all portal already pushed from any char

[rain scroll]

okayish damage

[sleek pollen]

take your time with chaotic kruk

[rain scroll]

shouldnt be hard

done!

shouldve done nm kruk now after taking quest yesterday i did once

it takes a little while to do nm kruk

with 35b dmg on dk

[west pilot]

Good, leaving my last chars push through minichiefs while doing my last morning shift

[craggy swift]

How does multikill work?
It says I have x11 dmg tier and 125% multi, yet I only get 3x loot?

[west pilot]

Multikill only affects base drop

[floral crest]

Sometimes I look atthis and think "Man I could be killing wurms for keys and gfood rn"

[west pilot]

Me when locks

I will be probably done with getting all chars to samurais today so

I wont see locks in a while

[rain scroll]

nice

[floral crest]

I havent even 400 this because I wanted to reach multikill req with atoms

[west pilot]

I was getting the base multiplier bubbles to like x2.9

I think it's around 903

[torpid acorn]

its my pleasure to inform everyone that since i unlocked him 2 months ago i have finally created my character and immedietly shoved him in lab

[deep wigeon]

if i get 2 of the same chip in lab can i put em on same player?

[rain scroll]

depends on the chip

some r 1 per char

[deep wigeon]

ok, is cubductive nanochip one of those?

[rain scroll]

no

multiple can be use on 1

[deep wigeon]

and i can mive around chips as much as i want right?

[rain scroll]

yes

[deep wigeon]

ok, thx

[rain scroll]

i aint doing this

[sleek pollen]

the chip says if you can equip one

[rain scroll]

ez to make divine troll and magma is the real hard part

i need dreadlo bars ....

[west pilot]

It tells you on the description

[rain scroll]

noice!

from 5m

276k dreadlo nice!

[thorn mango]

Fuck no troll is hardest, magma and kruk are easy

[rain scroll]

sorry i meant the divine is easy

troll and magma a bit hard troll being hardest

thats why i sent the divine screenshot

rn i have 1 of each item of troll set leaving helmet

need more salts

[rain flicker]

ive just unlocked world 3 what should i focus on in prep for world 4?

im pushing with a mage

[floral crest]

Is this stupid? I just claimed you 8 hours ago

[tender ocean]

daily reset happens?

[floral crest]

nah

I checked and there wasn't any

Shame I wanted it to bug out so I can get the w6 fishes quicker

[tender ocean]

you wanted to intentionally bug it out?

[floral crest]

yez

[zenith hare]

make sure to equip armour on everyone

amarok preferably

and push to w4 asap

use healing food as needed

btw mage is one of the worst early on to push with

[rain flicker]

whole set of amarok because a lot of people say the helmets not worth the time investment

[zenith hare]

has low survivability and no extra acc talents

[rain flicker]

would it be better to switc ranger or warrior then

[zenith hare]

skip those helms yeah

do archer for more acc, warrior for survival

imo warriors are best, as surv is far more costly

[devout ore]

me who pushed to w6 with bubo

true tho i struggled

dk (squire) is alot better

[topaz plank]

i got to be doing somthing wrong with 4.5x drop
1/50 000 for batterie

but i only get 2 in 460, 614 kills?

[zenith hare]

kill multipliers don't count, and mk doesn't count when you active

and also some people are just unlucky~

[topaz plank]

then how do i farm those?

[zenith hare]

do what you are doing

[topaz plank]

curratnly active ES

[zenith hare]

active ES is best

if you afk, bb is better then everyone else

[topaz plank]

hes fishing, as i'm having trubble upkeeping my achemy

[zenith hare]

that's what the printer is for

and also printing with skill food

[topaz plank]

i'm printing, just not fast enought

[zenith hare]

it multiplies ur print basically

[topaz plank]

i think i rushed a little to mucht

went from world 3 to world 5 in 1 week

[zenith hare]

some people has done worse

and also shaq isn't worth the investment early on

I had shaq at level 18 by end of w5 without the clickers existing and I still had plenty of acc to spare

add on clicker stats, you could lower ur base acc by over 40% to what it was like back then and still get 100% acc

as long as you actually try to get other acc bonuses

main ones: w1 clicker, dungeons, prayers, star signs, cards, sub stats from upgrade stones

[topaz plank]

shaq is 34

so i guess i'll get my blood berserker some pve his currantly my lowest char, (not counting the one i unlocked like 2levels ego)

[zenith hare]

what's ur mman like?

[topaz plank]

mman? mestro?

[zenith hare]

ye

[topaz plank]

pritty bad tbh

hes currantly catching, as i'm constantly having issues upkeeping my souls/bug (also hes level 150) and rare drops.

little back story, i used to play when game was released up to W3 played till i got into w3
quitted came back like 1-2 week ego

[zenith hare]

to solve this. don't use syphon on es

give everyone a skull and let them all collect souls

better skull the faster charge rate

[ruby quest]

how am i supposted to get 100 frogs

[topaz plank]

trapping, skill specialised by hunter/beastmaster

[ruby quest]

this?

oh

nvm so do i have to go to world 3 to do trapping

[topaz plank]

no it is not a skill it like fishing/ but more over time

[zenith hare]

go to the left of w3 town

[ruby quest]

on my hunter

[zenith hare]

and talk (and read!) to the npc

[ruby quest]

ok ok

where is the world 3 shop?

[topaz plank]

been doing it, after afking for 2,5 years it had finished making my totem 🙂

[zenith hare]

that's the problem

you need to be actively doing it

imo once a week

[topaz plank]

the mini totem i check every 2-3 days atm

isn't that the same?

[zenith hare]

the MSA

do you do it on everyone?

and do you upgrade their skulls when ur able to

[topaz plank]

yes sins i got aback

[topaz plank]

trying to, i mean i dont have the W3 ice souls to upgrade atm... so

[zenith hare]

yeah that ones a pain

[topaz plank]

actualy that the only i'm trying manual on my hunter trying to get past Wave 24...

(not going to well this stunn is realy fucking me up)

[zenith hare]

place the towers with a 1 tower gap

also use boulders

[topaz plank]

bolder rollers (level 23) or poisonic(level2)

[fair crow]

Is there any way to get the skull rift challenges go faster

[zenith hare]

boulder

[zenith hare]

use bubo, es, or sb

bubo if tentieye 200, es otherwise is best

[fair crow]

damn but I've only gotten like 1000 ish skulls per hour on sb

[zenith hare]

are you just not using talents?

[fair crow]

I am

[zenith hare]

should be done in like 50 mins on sb

[fair crow]

whaa

I need 5k

[devout ore]

bubo is best for this

[fair crow]

yea but I'm lazy to redo my lab

[zenith hare]

if you have tentieye 200

[fair crow]

nah

[zenith hare]

you don't need to

[devout ore]

the most annoying part of rift is the 5m kills

and these mobs are so tanky now its difficult asf

i have no idea how im gonna get to sneaking mastery

itll take months

[zenith hare]

you don't need mk

you can do this thing called send more characters there

took me a day per rift even without mk

[devout ore]

i have 2 chars

[zenith hare]

you have more then 2.

[devout ore]

na i have 2 only

[zenith hare]

you have 3 divinity links now

[devout ore]

jk

[zenith hare]

there is literally no excuse for not using more

[devout ore]

im leveling div up to 80 rn once im done ill be free

[zenith hare]

you shouldn't be doing that

you only need 40 then it'll level itself up to 80

[fair crow]

yea but I don't trust that he'll be that much faster either

[zenith hare]

es will be better

bubo is a killing machine later on

[fair crow]

only around 250m dmg rn

[zenith hare]

it's like 5x faster then es in push power

[fair crow]

cant really push the portal too high

[zenith hare]

es is still faster as long as you give him gear (or even lend it)

[fair crow]

only around 80

[devout ore]

also for some reason my dk gets 30k more kills than my es on rift, same god link, i have no idea why

[zenith hare]

80 is enough

[fair crow]

maybe I should do that actually

[zenith hare]

he has attack talents equipped

[fair crow]

I can totally craft the green wand

[devout ore]

whaa

hold on

[pine fiber]

do I wanna farm black lenses with ES or DK?

[zenith hare]

es

[devout ore]

my dk

[zenith hare]

es is for base drop table, dk is for crystal drop table

[zenith hare]

4th prayer

[devout ore]

my es

nvm its 20k more kills

[zenith hare]

equip ur attack talents

it's likely move speed being the issue tbh

[devout ore]

i did.

[devout ore]

they got the exact same movement speed 😭

actually es got 1.5b less damage

i treat my dk best so thats prolly why

[zenith hare]

wb the star talent that makes active talents do more for afk

[devout ore]

maxed on both

i think it has to do with damage and gear

[zenith hare]

equipped every attack talent to the bar?

[devout ore]

nope

[zenith hare]

that'll be why

[devout ore]

just the ones i use when active

[zenith hare]

add on even the bad ones

remove them when you get active

[devout ore]

it doesnt make a difference bro

[zenith hare]

that means one of them is missing a kill multiplier, or one has a lot of mob respawn chips on

[devout ore]

its def about gear and other bonuses

[devout ore]

yeah

[zenith hare]

it's mob respawn

[devout ore]

and damage

[zenith hare]

I just checked if it was damage

it isn't damage

both are at base kph cap for their damage

unless you get mk, damage won't change anything

[devout ore]

i think theres just lots of bonuses that afect afk gains

even crit chance

[zenith hare]

that doesnt

and it's all tied into average damage

which, if you couldn't tell, you've capped out for kph

[zenith hare]

I know because of this.

as talents are one of the things that impact it

so if you increased damage and got same kph, damage won't help you

meaning it's something else, my guess is mob respawn chips

[devout ore]

maybe this too

[devout ore]

ion have any of these

[zenith hare]

depends on what ur ES' is like

[devout ore]

damn 💀 it was this 100%

[zenith hare]

:/

[devout ore]

im just hella poor when it comes talent points, im gonna start printing the mats for the talent bubble upgrades

so that i can even atom it later on

[zenith hare]

or level up ur bad skills

[devout ore]

mostly cuz booked talents use up lots of points

[high trail]

I shoud use sb right?

[zenith hare]

level up bad skills as in mining

[zenith hare]

sb/es

[high trail]

Okay thx

[zenith hare]

bubo is also good

[devout ore]

na not on my combat preset

[high trail]

Idk i jsut want to do it fast

[zenith hare]

each skill level gives you a talent point!

[devout ore]

later on theres no presets endagmers max out every talent and still have thousands of points left 😭

[zenith hare]

yes due to atoms!

[devout ore]

ohhh ye got u

[devout ore]

ye that bubble is op i figured it out before asking anybody

[zenith hare]

eh

it's not even op till ur max book level is 250 or smth

it's just alright

[devout ore]

u can literally max out all ur talents with it

+1 for each tab

crazy

those mice are gonna be annoying tho

[zenith hare]

yes and you can do so without that bubble if you don't have good books

aka: below an average of 250

[devout ore]

difficult

[zenith hare]

eh

just push w6 and then it's not

[devout ore]

this one is hella easy

[zenith hare]

ur base kph is easily high enough to be near the end of w6

[high trail]

Btw so es portal is working to?

[zenith hare]

worst case at eggs on everyone

[devout ore]

ive took a break of pushing at leeks

[zenith hare]

afk pushing exists

hell I only actived on two classes when pushing to the end

[devout ore]

ive only ever pushed afk 😭

[zenith hare]

bubo and dk. everyone else afk'd

[devout ore]

i feel like u think im better than what my acc actually is

[zenith hare]

I've seen the numbers

and numbers don't lie.

[devout ore]

i barely hit 10b damage

[zenith hare]

your rift kph is near enough to "I'm done with w6" level stats

[zenith hare]

damage barely matters in w6

as you've seen alr, you reach base kph cap very easily

[devout ore]

mm ye true

[zenith hare]

it only starts mattering at sky doggies

and that's when you start getting mk when pushing

[devout ore]

what benefits do i get from reaching the end tho

no w7

ye ig ill start pushing once i get troll armour n void on everyone

[zenith hare]

vials mainly

and also the fact ur crops get better

[devout ore]

dam i forgot farming exists

[zenith hare]

per w6 portal unlocked on each character, you get an extra crop chance multi

[devout ore]

most boring skill in teh game

[zenith hare]

td be like

[devout ore]

ima read the farming guide fr

im tired its so slow

[zenith hare]

it's called "don't ignoreit"

aka, check on it once a day

[devout ore]

summoning is the best tho

the feeling when u get rlly lucky and roll multiple regails n bloomies

n win an underdog

[zenith hare]

regails is the worst one

tonka is next

too expensive for too low return

[devout ore]

why tf do i always win when i roll em

[polar bane]

Worship is the most boring by far 🙏

[zenith hare]

because you were already gonna win

that's all regails does. it keeps ur current victory and prolongs it

[devout ore]

ye nvm wtf regails just made me lose it was so expensive

YESSSSSSSSSSS

ive just rolled one of those full row bloomies

and won

done

[knotty falcon]

Hey, where do you active ES / farm wormhole kills?

[slim mantle]

You don't target farm wormhole kills, they just happen while u farm for something u need

For example I just spent a bit over a week with es at the moons to get 1 mil ghosts for golden cakes

[knotty falcon]

I see, I just need a small dmg boost and I've actived ES the least, I have something like 2k wormhole kills

[mint rivet]

hello everyone

👋🏿

[slim mantle]

👋

[mint rivet]

finally

[slim mantle]

Just determine what u need, be it a certain base mob drop or a rarer drop like golden plops and just go farm them with es

[slim mantle]

200 or fake

[mint rivet]

its not fake or 200

[slim mantle]

Its fake max at 100

And for some reason that shrine is much slower to level than most shrines after that

[spring thistle]

why did i get 35 hours afk gains when i left them 10 hours ago?

[cold wraith]

desync

[slim mantle]

Did u leave ur game open for several days?

[spring thistle]

yeah game was on all day yesterday

[cold wraith]

desync

[slim mantle]

Basically all the lag u get is desync which u get back in afk time when u cloudsave

So you must have lagged a ton

[spring thistle]

well yeah i did i was farming the daily presents

so i guess that makes sense thank you

[echo radish]

Why do I keep getting bad runs

[slim mantle]

Lots of levels.. how high multi

[echo radish]

It's like 3x, so if you divide by 3 you'll see it's a bad run

[slim mantle]

U got 10k hours?

[echo radish]

Just ye

Was at like 8mil damage

[slim mantle]

So u didn't fail last throw, why so low levels total then?

[echo radish]

Idk that's the point

[slim mantle]

Consistently chose the lowest level reward choice? Xd

[echo radish]

If I knew I wouldn't have said why

[ebon rampart]

If you divide yours by 3 we get roughly the same levels (1.1x multi run)

[slim mantle]

Nice dmg. U just went risky with last rethrows or am I just that far behind in the measurer bonus multi?

[mint rivet]

damn how so far

[ebon rampart]

I assume behind in skill levels. I'm perfectly on 10k hours

[mint rivet]

i only make it to a few hundred thousand hp enemy

[ebon rampart]

I think last sword till 25 - 26?

[slim mantle]

Ok yeaj 2x multi diff damn

[echo radish]

Man I gotta farm skill levels ig

[slim mantle]

Im gonna gues its mostly just sneaking/breeding/construction levels diff

And gaming

[ebon rampart]

You can have the whole breakdown. Construction and Sneaking definitely the most likely contenders. Div + Lab also big
And then skill levels here and there, which add up

[slim mantle]

Yeah ofcourse, just mentioned the big ones, I should be behind on everything logically speaking

[echo radish]

Lab sneaking and construction are the ones I'm very behind on

[slim mantle]

Those lab levels are quite far over required o.o

[ebon rampart]

Had 8 to 9 chars in Lab before the hole

Needed those div levels + points

[slim mantle]

I hate all things involving afk'ing a lot right now.. theres just too much of it and they all refuse to accept candy

[ebon rampart]

Wish I would have paid more attention to those lab toons. Most had only biggie card or straight up active / fighting presets 👀

[slim mantle]

Oof the lost gains

[slim mantle]

I feel really sorry for new players in w5 now. Lava should have atleast made hole w6 to make new players decission making easier

[mint rivet]

still can't get 2k kills for equinox

[echo radish]

Tbh lava by adding so many afk gated things that can't be candied is kinda fucking over any new player

[slim mantle]

I did mine at similar time but like 15 extra levels into respawn. Then I made sure my character moved around plenty and forced it to spam down aura. Just fyi in case it helps

[mint rivet]

i did as you just said above , ig i need second timer

[slim mantle]

Map ofc plays a role too. I think I did mine at poops

[mint rivet]

poops>mammoths?

[slim mantle]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1284912889374838946/1302333590222405784/PN7gwB2.png?ex=676f95ec&is=676e446c&hm=e427f999f8ade5c62857ec6625e92cd6b57ccfdd3812b81607ec094256bd7ae8&

I think poops has more spawns

[mint rivet]

daily crystals moment

[vital verge]

is it worth it to buy those statues?

i have few of them so they are probably rare

[marsh nova]

Imo very worth

[mint rivet]

240 trophies for 20k, seems good

[slim mantle]

As far as I can tell endgamers think its meh and gwatches better and they're probably right, I spent my trophies on the statues tho

[fading rune]

Yes, hard to get

[vital verge]

bought them, wait the thing im supposed to buy with those trophies is gold pocket watch?

[slim mantle]

I don't think its all that bad to get some statues since u can't farm those

[fading rune]

Its not at all, definitely get it.

[vital verge]

i guess i will buy 3k more for leveling

but first i need to farm 3k more power statues

so i can finally get onyx

[slim mantle]

I wouldn't deposit them tho, not unless u have all statues onyxed and 100% snakeskin vial and good level bubble

[vital verge]

is there a statue deposit bonus for each onyx?

[slim mantle]

Yes

[vital verge]

i want to deposit those so bad just so i can get my crit chance over 200%

[mint rivet]

onyx and deposit, what u waitin for

[fading rune]

3k power will only take a few hours, get on it haha

[slim mantle]

U can deposit some of those eyes, they are easy to farm more of

[vital verge]

i only got 96 statues in the past 5 minutes, i cant take it

[mint rivet]

damn that's bad

try to do amarok @vital verge

[vital verge]

since i posted that it got up to 112

[fading rune]

Thats 1k in an hour, its not that bad

[mint rivet]

power statue was one of the statues amarok made me onyx

[vital verge]

and that is with chocochip

[mint rivet]

its bad

[fading rune]

crystal chance?

[mint rivet]

do you have dr obols?

[vital verge]

its at 9.1x droprate

[mint rivet]

def work on chance

[fading rune]

1/61 isnt bad at all....

[mint rivet]

so is that a yes?

[vital verge]

ye

[fading rune]

Most people are trying to start statues at 1/100

[mint rivet]

did you ruby poop and genie?

[vital verge]

i dont have ruby cards

[mint rivet]

yeah I personally wouldn't even think about that if I was at 1/100

[mint rivet]

you can use rubifier

[vital verge]

i only have 1 tho

[mint rivet]

i personally did, and 1 year later, still can't ruby cards normally

[fading rune]

Yeah, but that with 4* cards is what you get. It's hard to get mroe without the doubling chips

[mint rivet]

genie is an amazing one to use on

[vital verge]

if two more people agree with you i do it

[mint rivet]

we are 3 people in this chat, 2 excluding you, 1 excluding me...

[fading rune]

Of course its a good idea lol

[vital verge]

2 of 3

[turbid ivy]

Yeah I'd ruby genie

[mint rivet]

nylitia came in clutch

[mint rivet]

nice

[turbid ivy]

Choco chip + lab chip for increased card stats

[mint rivet]

if you have doubler, double that

[vital verge]

i dont

[mint rivet]

nice

[fading rune]

Almost no one has the doubler unless you pay for that.... It never comes round lol

[mint rivet]

huge increase

[turbid ivy]

Yeah I got it from gem shop lol

[mint rivet]

same

[vital verge]

im still getting jewels

so i cant gamba chip yet

[fading rune]

According to IT, it's not coming until Nov 2025

[mint rivet]

I only have top left doubler and my chance is this, dissapointing

imagine with 2nd doubler what it can become

[vital verge]

life is pain

[fading rune]

Why are you watching it...

[turbid ivy]

You doing beans ?

[vital verge]

ye

[vital verge]

dont have anything else to do

[mint rivet]

him watching IT
IT spying him ✅

tomorrow is the day an opening shall occur

[vital verge]

oh yea those exist

[turbid ivy]

Hope you don't get name tag in the first 50 lol

[vital verge]

never farmed them, too lazy

[mint rivet]

me?

[fading rune]

You'd be getting them all the time when gettings statues......

[vital verge]

got 12 from statue farming

[mint rivet]

i personally get 50 in about 17mins of bubo farm

[vital verge]

i do neither

im only doing it today because of the weekly boss ship

shop*

[mint rivet]

hmm, i could, Do I?

[turbid ivy]

I did those pow statues are a pain

[fading rune]

Wheres your onyx...?

You have 1/34 and you aint bothered?

[mint rivet]

its not since i didn't buy for throphies yet

[vital verge]

rate my statue farming build

[fading rune]

I mean all the other farmable ones

[mint rivet]

indeed, 18mins of bubo active is alr too much in such time

[distant rain]

U get 10k from onyx quest

[mint rivet]

all onyxes i have were from 300 bosses daily

and some vman shenanigans

[turbid ivy]

You dropped your ice creams

[fading rune]

you aint be doing dr at all..?

[mint rivet]

10k what?

[distant rain]

Pow

[vital verge]

i have been doing dr too much, it was 4x droprate

[mint rivet]

alr ima buy 20k then

[vital verge]

oh so i dont need to buy 3k more for leveling

[magic haven]

Does cogs buff cogs?

[distant rain]

U can get 10k pow for each character that finishes monolith quest in w4

[vital verge]

im NOT farming power statues again for a LONG time

[turbid ivy]

Yeah some cogs buff other cogs

[mint rivet]

u talking about this nametag?

[turbid ivy]

Yeah once you get it you lose gem drop quantity from the gifts

[vital verge]

wish i could candy it

[mint rivet]

i got it from first 100 i opened wayy before saving gifts

[distant rain]

Not diminishing returns?

So its triggered by nametag??

[turbid ivy]

Name tag sets you at like 1500 gifts or something

[distant rain]

Pain

[fading rune]

Yeah its nametag, screws you over

[distant rain]

Thats stupid

[turbid ivy]

It's not even the good one either lol

I mean I guess if you have characters without it's better than nothing but still

[distant rain]

I already have the better nametag so that gift box one ruined my gem drops

Daily 20-30gems

[mint rivet]

wow

[mint rivet]

W 4 chest run

[vital verge]

2.5k more

[fading rune]

Go watch YT, or play another game

[vital verge]

cant

[fading rune]

?

[vital verge]

my noteboook cant handle idleon and another form of enterntainment at the same time

[little rain]

Can someone give me a breakdown on how I should be trapping? I have the MSA, so should it be Hunter placing them all, but everyone individually collecting? Does the auto collect thing give xp? Is there a good breakdown of who should get what creatures?

[vital verge]

else a blue screen happens

[little rain]

Does the "collect all" button give xp, or just creatures?

[vital verge]

both

[floral crest]

I think it’s fine to use eagle eye now that you have trapper drone and also only BM and maestro/vman should be adjusting trapping at trapper drone also you need to buff yourself with transfusion if you’re maestro/vman and always go for the most current critter+nature trap you unlocked with maestro/vman and BM anything you need/like

[fading rune]

You doing 20m?

[little rain]

So vman should only be using nature traps for XP? By buff yourself, you mean fully level transfusion? Should he be placing his own traps, or is that only done by BM? And eagle eye is better than the drone for collecting?

[floral crest]

yes u should max transfusion to use it effectively since maestro/vman needs highest level

[floral crest]

Also both needs to do traps separately, Vman does xp, BM does critters.

[floral crest]

I used the auto review bot recommendation I think it’s set to rift daily claim

[slim mantle]

ahh, greed got me

[shy ruin]

does health actually help warrior skilling

[slim mantle]

yes

[shy ruin]

oh really

even the health from "health overdrive" talent?

cuz that just gives health instead of str

[shy ruin]

oh yeah bubbles

[round meadow]

NOOOO, i wanted to buy that pack today but it swapped

[harsh patrol]

I need some kind of inspiration... when did you unlock vman? What lvl were you and what was your max dmg?

So that i know whereabout i shall try to get him

[round geyser]

How does shiny pets work?

[agile willow]

i did when i got to w5, i problably had like 100k-1M damage on vman and around lvl 200 on main? but it was before w6 release, so you problably want to wait until you reach w6

[round geyser]

Are they always 1 star?

[agile willow]

1 pet power? yes

you put them in the fenceyard and they progress just like breeding

[floral crest]

Gives different bonuses and scales up with how long they're in fenceyard

[agile willow]

breeding gives next pet chance, shinies gives bonuses for outside of breeding

[harsh patrol]

Yeah i am around the same progress. Did it take long to get 12m spores kills?

[agile willow]

don't remember because i used candy

you can see your afk kph and see how long it'd take

[harsh patrol]

I have like 1k hours of candies

Might help

[round geyser]

So basically, each shiny pet is 1 pet power, and the only way to speed up the upgrading of shiny bonus is to put a bunch of them in fence?

and unlocking a shiny pet would unlock the shiny bonus, but to make the bonus higher i need to level it in the fence

[agile willow]

there are some other sources that increases the speed, but other than that yes

[round geyser]

got it, thanks for explaining

[agile willow]

its up to you whether to use the candy now or later, with all this candy you can speed up your time to reach w6, once you reach w6 your account bonuses will have progressed and you'll problably need less to do the requirements

[rain scroll]

hi

[shy ruin]

what's the best thing to buy from this page

and also does refinery cycles cost materials or nah

[visual zinc]

w5 unlocked 🔥

anything to look out for w5?

[whole parrot]

Just realised I can make a new char.. I have x2 of all classes + a journeyman. What should i get next?

[tulip lintel]

I like second bubo for more Alchemy bonuses since it will be important to eternity and beyond.