midgame-chat-w3🧊w4🔮

[tribal sparrow]

W3 statue literal hell grind.

[cold wraith]

yea ive heard

[livid vine]

what does it mean

[cold wraith]

hopefully 15 dr and 30b dmg es will be fine

[livid vine]

so if red salt is 84, the power output is 90x, so don't need to level up that salt?

[cold wraith]

haha joking right

[livid vine]

no i'm serious

[tribal sparrow]

150 seesaw statue/hour with 15.6 DR and 1:60 crystal

[cold wraith]

power cycle means how many salts you get of that color per cycle

[tribal sparrow]

Like tf.

[cold wraith]

and the salt cost of all salts excluding red and green are 2x that of the power per cycle

if you have maxed merit shop for salts

[livid vine]

ah i haven't

i think mine is only like lv 1

[cold wraith]

so if the output cost of the next salt is too close or will be higher than the power per cycle of the one before you dont rank up

[cold wraith]

was that for you?

[tribal sparrow]

Yeah

[livid vine]

oh i see it now, ty

[cold wraith]

i have 1/53 spawn chance and 15.17 dr

hopefully that .5% more spawn chance carries

[livid vine]

so if per hour i'm producing 90 salt but i need 100 salt to refine, it's unsustainable, got it

[cold wraith]

yea pretty much

so you would auto refine that one that costs 100 until the one that produces 90 is produces like 120 or smth

then you can rank up

[livid vine]

i fked up really badly lol, so it's been unsustainable

[cold wraith]

thats not event hat bad

[livid vine]

aww ty

[cold wraith]

deadass

your red is a lil underleveled and your blue is leveled 1 too much

but once you get your red up itll be fine

[livid vine]

i'm salt locked fr now so it's been a constant pressure until I fix it

[cold wraith]

and thats really easy once you get omni active

[livid vine]

wait i just got doot last night

[cold wraith]

free roll?

[livid vine]

160/200 :<

[cold wraith]

oh shit not free roll

[livid vine]

yea but the wise and powerful said it was pretty good

[cold wraith]

do you know what omni does

[livid vine]

so i took the plunge and bought it

i only unlocked goharut now haha

so currently all my ppl are in the lab

doot i bought less than 1 2hours ago

[cold wraith]

im pretty sure you get all bonuses with doot

so you dont need specific lock outside of purrmep

only reason to grind div is for purrmep

[cold wraith]

yep

[livid vine]

soooo if i currently have everyone in lab jail now

will i get an additional progress with elephant god when i switch to them later?

[cold wraith]

yea

[livid vine]

wow that's cool

[cold wraith]

so if you had afk on one character for 8 hours

you have a chance to get 8 hours of progress on any other skill

[livid vine]

wow

[cold wraith]

thats listed**

its really good to progress refinery and sailing

and breeding

free eggs if it procs

[livid vine]

no wonder my eggs keep filling

[cold wraith]

yea

[livid vine]

this is pretty huge

[cold wraith]

no reason to waste colo tickets

[livid vine]

thnx for sharing

[cold wraith]

thats why people that have doot right when they start w5 have a massive headstart

[livid vine]

yea, i nv used colo tickets after someone here said we need to keep for gfood

[cold wraith]

prolly occido

[livid vine]

so i been hoarding for the w6 colo

[cold wraith]

that funny guy

[livid vine]

i only just got 30 tickets and u only get 3 a day

[cold wraith]

yea it sucks you dont get one from every world

ive been saving and i have 212 so far

[knotty falcon]

Hey everyone, I have two stupid questions. Should my bubo be using cc auto, when on auto with cc in the bar? Because he isn't. And is there anything in particular you need in terms of setup for the 100k s cc equinox?

[cold wraith]

do you have tenteye 200

[knotty falcon]

Yes, 228

[cold wraith]

where are you cc'ing

[knotty falcon]

Citringes

[cold wraith]

not wurms?

with wurms, decent crystal spawn chance, and choco chip you can get 150k easy

[knotty falcon]

I can do wurms too, but idk if there's going to be a 30k difference. I can consistently get 77k at cit

[cold wraith]

and ofc osk with poison

whats your bar looking like

[knotty falcon]

Ah crap, I am not optimizing for crystal chance

[cold wraith]

yea crystals can give a decent bit if youre lucky

[knotty falcon]

Ah thanks a lot!

[cold wraith]

whats your bar

ability bar

[knotty falcon]

I got everything on 3 separate bars. Auto uses everything except cc

[cold wraith]

you only need 4 abilities

thats another reason why your rates might be bad

[pure helm]

Some AA skills lock you until you AA.

[cold wraith]

from left to right: cc>revive>aura>ghost

[knotty falcon]

Wait, does order matter

[cold wraith]

yes

abilities are prio left to right

so your revive and aura should be spammed

ghost not so much cus it can lag if too many on map

[knotty falcon]

I've been playing since like 2021 and I find out order matters today 🤦‍♂️

[cold wraith]

also max po box for cc and also spam levels for cc bubble

and ofc book cc talent for more time and more sec per kill

[knotty falcon]

Yeah I can do 1 in 35 rn on dkI assume I can get the same on bubo

[cold wraith]

yea

do you kill wurms with one shot with poison

i think just fixing your ability bar will give you over 100k

cus using things like the syringe lookin thing can freeze up your abilities until one naturally respawns

[knotty falcon]

Bubo is my only one who doesn't have wurms unlocked, so I'll find out. He's at like 30B damage so I don't know if it'll be enough.

[cold wraith]

30b is plenty

make sure to also level the first talent on fourth page cus thats what poison dmg scales off of

im getting 200k seconds doing that after getting 50k before

[knotty falcon]

So no chemical warfare before ghost?

[cold wraith]

dont use chem warfare at all

you only need it because you get poison damage from leveling it

cc>revive>aura>ghost

thats all you need

[empty dune]

do i spend my floppy discs if i save a run?
Or can i save all of them 4free as soon as i unlock it?

[knotty falcon]

Thanks a lot mate. I'll give it a shot.

[pure helm]

Never used this but there is no way your saves are consumable.

Also reading the item answered that question.

[knotty falcon]

What cards do you guys run for crystal / cc? I go with this on my dk

Stat / clammie is very questionable

[west pilot]

no emperor?

[pallid kernel]

Omg it’s elle

What you been up to

[west pilot]

also if it is for crystal you could use crystall carrot for dr

[pallid kernel]

Have you not finished pushing w6?

[west pilot]

i have like 4 days or so to go

all on minichiefs

[pallid kernel]

Are you pushing without mk?

[west pilot]

nah

i have good dmg for pushing

[pallid kernel]

Why are you bothering pushing everyone to samurai’s

[west pilot]

to not have to care more about pushing + constellation

they have like 1.4M per hour so it's not bad

[pallid kernel]

I have too many jails to bother future proofing

Need 2100 lab, both monuments, and dragon statues

Only have dk at samurai’s

[west pilot]

i did some eclipse skulls to help with overall pushing

[pallid kernel]

What’s your dmg

[west pilot]

lowest is like 63T

highest like 689T

[pallid kernel]

Ah ok

[west pilot]

also i've been working morning and evening so i didn't really care about leaving afk for long time

[dusky quiver]

What time should I try going for 1m ponderous kills

[west pilot]

when you don't have anything else to do

literally

[dusky quiver]

Damn

[pallid kernel]

Fair enough

[pallid kernel]

What elle said. Might be worth going for 100k tho

[dusky quiver]

Is it just ponderous mobs that count or any mob that drops a skull coin

[pallid kernel]

Just the big dudes

[dusky quiver]

Holy moly

I’m at 10k rn

[pallid kernel]

Should take about 4-5 days to get 100k

[west pilot]

I'm checking what to go next

either leaving them grinding dragon statues or leave them eclipsing the other worlds

[pallid kernel]

I’m prob gonna get both monuments to 10k, then grind dragon statues, then get 2100 lab. Meanwhile, bb will do superchows and bubo will be in lab to get me to 1400. I think I’m pretty close to it

I got to w3 superchows today

[west pilot]

i kinda want to stack some more candies and finish up eclipsing

[pallid kernel]

What worlds are you gonna eclipse

[west pilot]

i have 2-3-4 and 6 left

[pallid kernel]

You can prob do 2 and 3

4 and 6 might take too much candy

[west pilot]

imagine candy 6

[pallid kernel]

Oh yeah lol

I forgot

[west pilot]

i didn't check the kills on 4 tbf

5 was just easy cause i had the rings for more kills

[ebon storm]

https://tenor.com/view/dog-toilet-on-the-toilet-pooping-gif-16362692622118254941

[gray ridge]

Yo guys how do I make my furnace faster ir w3?

Cuz its just doing it too Slow and idk how to speed it up

[pallid kernel]

There’s a archer talent in tab 2 that makes kills give forge progress

[gray ridge]

Ok ty

[tender ocean]

he means refinery with the w3

I hope

[sleek pollen]

seems like it's about refinery yeah

[sleek pollen]

if it's about refinery, it is supposed to be slow unless you got your red salts rank in the thousands

[gray ridge]

A ok

[true hamlet]

Does anybody have an estimate as to how long it takes to get to lab lvl 75 from scratch (Just entered W4 a while back)

[sleek pollen]

got to w4 3 month ago, some of my char have been lab 75 for a few weeks already

[true hamlet]

oh, in that case, would it be better to stop halfway and just have them chill in lab when they have nothing better to do (Basically increase their range a bit to touch earlier buffs while pushing further)

[ocean loom]

the xp required is around 22.8 mil according to wiki, just divide 22.8mil by ur xp/hour

[sleek pollen]

w4 and past that, your char will always stay in any jail, lab in w4, div in w5, so yeah put all char in lab and push with one like always

[true hamlet]

Alright! Thanks for the help

[agile breach]

how print copper ore or is it possible

[sleek pollen]

hit an copper node, press the sample talent, voila you have copper ore sample that you can print

[wide lark]

I remember hearing I wanted the Stick guy for something but I dont know where it's ability is under forager but it only looks viable in the combat ?

I got the Axe unlocked but not the food for it.

[sleek pollen]

yep refiller is purely fighting, no forager bonusn

[wide lark]

Any tips regarding killing this guy?

Nuke?

[wide lark]

Where is that from ?

[sleek pollen]

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/e/2PACX-1vSCepYAs6sNDP4iq6MJNAG1pvFXzfC_3IQ7ttt5vfEEKAgQhIk4cQqnLRyeH6UyqDSuP4R-6WQeDmmP/pubhtml#

[sleek pollen]

the pet tab has plenty of team depending on how many slots you have or which pet you unlocked, same for spice forager team

[opal nova]

hi, I had a question about sampling. does increased drop rate boost the gain from monster materials when sampling

[sleek pollen]

nope

[sleek pollen]

what increase sampling is dmg, multikill (both increasing kph in the afk tab), fighting (or any) afk gain (might've missed some things)

[broken moat]

Finally

After 50 collected traps

[sleek pollen]

nice

[sleek pollen]

you was doing 20min trap right?

[broken moat]

`yeagh you were totally right, the chance is on open trap not on number of critters

[sleek pollen]

welp one of the things I missed x), also prio buying the gold balls gain upgrade in the arcade shop rotation rn, fomo is real

[sleek pollen]

yep if you want shiny en masse, 20m trap is the go to

[zenith sparrow]

anywhere I can check what my max pet power is?

[broken moat]

i just got to scorpions, i am super happy

[sleek pollen]

you cant but what affects pet power is the bm talent, breeding level and egg rarity

[zenith sparrow]

there is no calculation on one of the tool websites?

[sleek pollen]

now get the duck

[sleek pollen]

not that I'm aware of

[broken moat]

nah actually i need shiny scorpion now

for both hunter quest and bank expansion

i got addicted to hunting now

[slim mantle]

looks good, should clear things up easily for ppl

[plain ledge]

is there any way to buff atack speed?

[sleek pollen]

better weapon and bubble like occido has shown

idk if there's other tho

[slim mantle]

in IE, u have to multiply with pet power cap of the egg u have

[zenith sparrow]

thanks. I feel really blind now... the number was right there

[pliant fractal]

reminder that eggs only increase the max and not them min

[slim mantle]

u sure about that? my higher rarity eggs low end pets always have a higher power than my low rarity eggs have

[pliant fractal]

yes

[pliant fractal]

.....

[slim mantle]

weird coincidence then I gues

[pliant fractal]

weird?

[pliant fractal]

if you have the range
5-100
and the range
5-200

in which range are you more likely to get better power?

[slim mantle]

if the min doesn't increase like u say then it's weird that I never get the same low values with higher rarity as I do with lower rarity, as in not a single time

[pliant fractal]

because your chance to get higher pet power is higher

[slim mantle]

skewed logic here because 100% lava weighted it to he higher chance of low power

[pliant fractal]

its like saying
"omg guys i got 500% higher nuggets from the equinox bonus and i get higher nuggets!!!thats soooo weird!"

[slim mantle]

and ofcourse average would be higher but not seeing any of the lower values be near the same low value of lower eggs is weird if the min cap isn't raised

[fallen ridge]

post office and chip from lab

[still oxide]

So i found some recipes that are not on the wiki

[sleek pollen]

right

[sleek pollen]

yeah happens, I found use some of these to get the recipe bc didn't have the spice of the wiki

[still oxide]

So to those who insist just sending people to the wiki needs to stop because ive said before it's being helpful in the least helpful way

[tribal sparrow]

Do it with ie.

[still oxide]

Ie has what the wiki has...

[fallen ridge]

probably wiki's recipes are when u could "first" unlock foods using "cheapest" spices

I don't know, just guessing

[still oxide]

Look at the video I sent

The ones I found are not even the secondary recipes

[fallen ridge]

I'm trying, but I have one screen and switching back and forth form screenshots to video is giving me headache

[zenith hare]

I've got a 30k from a dem egg

[fallen ridge]

secondary recipes, from what I understand, is best possible combo to achieve said plate

[zenith hare]

that's my low end for basic ends, think ab 26k or smth can't remember

[zenith hare]

memorising 4 things isn't too hard, average person can memorise 7 things in short term memory

[still oxide]

Then I found thirdary recipes

[zenith hare]

worst case, do it in 2s

[rotund slate]

hey is there any point to doing pet arena past round 200?

[still oxide]

No unless you want to do it for the tome leaderboard

[tender ocean]

what

[runic coral]

good or bad?

[tender ocean]

honest or lie

[runic coral]

both

[tender ocean]

bad and decent

[runic coral]

why bad tho

[tender ocean]

I would compare to myself and then decide

[hazy flax]

Horrible, you shouldn't even talk here until you get 10 greenstacks per second

[runic coral]

u hav like 550b

[tender ocean]

more

[runic coral]

can u do it

[hazy flax]

I was being sarcastic

I have like 10greenstacks from copper in total

[runic coral]

i would hav to wait on monument and then bubble atom lvls

[hazy flax]

Wow, I don't even know half of those words

[runic coral]

monument is w5 atom is w3

[slim mantle]

100 gstacks a second 🙂

[hazy flax]

jesus christ

[runic coral]

huh

how oh wait u farmed the fuck out of monument

[slim mantle]

ofcourse but my sample is old, pre justice

[misty cove]

Tips on getting 180 orb score with DK in the rift?

[slim mantle]

statues on the bottom 2 layers, kill the rest with boomerang

[tender ocean]

[runic coral]

mine would be pre hole

[tender ocean]

in 1 week I printed ⅓ of my total printed materials ever

[slim mantle]

I already know I can't measure up to u :p

whats ur mining efficiency at?

[runic coral]

qq

[tender ocean]

40QQ on my last print

brb

[slim mantle]

ofcourse, mine too

[runic coral]

im so far from it i just reached 12q

[runic coral]

need to pkay the game more but work is hectic

[slim mantle]

the big gains is hole which is pretty afk honestly

[runic coral]

i need to up my dmg from 300k to 1m base

[zenith hare]

early hole is the active part

beyond like cav 8 it's pretty afk based

[thorn mango]

Hi meme, occido and chaos

[zenith hare]

e

[runic coral]

cya

[zenith hare]

bai

[thorn mango]

Nah you can't leave now bud

[slim mantle]

https://tenor.com/view/hahaha-run-forrest-gump-tom-hanks-gif-4170876

[zenith hare]

can and will

[thorn mango]

https://tenor.com/view/pull-back-hurley-milo-warped-stopped-gif-25269649

[spare terrace]

is there anyway to like skip this, like someone has the power to instant finish a refiner cycle, is there one for spices cause i just need 1 of spice to finish out my food menu

[slim mantle]

u can only speed it up with active bm with vman enhancement

[spare terrace]

so how would i do that

[slim mantle]

just kill mobs with him, 50% for a kill to give 3 sec worth of progress... it's not great

[spare terrace]

thats ass, thanks

[tender ocean]

yeah between you and me might be a slight difference

[runic coral]

well my bubbles aren't lvl 1k and above and to achieve 99% on bubbles i need lvls 40k and above on all

[tender ocean]

lvl 40k to 99% bubbles?

or general

[slim mantle]

don't need that many levels for 99%

[runic coral]

some cost 40k

[runic coral]

in general would be less

[tender ocean]

tell me 1 that is needed and need 40k levels

[slim mantle]

I just scrolled through all of orange bubbles, none need 40k for 99%

not even close

[tender ocean]

highest needed bubble lvl is 9600

[runic coral]

here

[slim mantle]

you put 100% instead of 99% I gues

[tender ocean]

ya bro you look for 99.9%

[runic coral]

yep

[tender ocean]

why

[runic coral]

maximum out put

[slim mantle]

it's not worth bothering past 99%

[tender ocean]

ok do it then

I don't stop you

[runic coral]

100% is ♾️

[slim mantle]

just don't enter anything above 99% so u see reasonable results

[pliant fractal]

thats because you cant read

[tender ocean]

lmao

[tender ocean]

nah wiki needs to include all possible recipes that you can do just to be safe

[grim lodge]

!merit4

[candid scarab]

1️⃣ Buy one point of spice spillage. This gives you up to a 20% chance to claim all your spices when claiming over an hour of afk gains. Since spices generate more slowly the more you have produced since last claim this will improve spice production.
2️⃣ Having more bubbles get upgraded each day will help a lot, especially when combined with buffs giving more levels per bubble. Only buy this if you can reach the No Bubble Left Behind node in the lab.
3️⃣ Egg capacity is limited and every time the hatchery fills up eggs are wasted until you unlock the rarity upgrade. Also helps you get two achievements with good rewards requiring egg capacity.
4️⃣ Allows you to connect to lab bonuses from slightly farther away which can reduce the number of characters needed in the lab. Note that the max distance between characters, which is called line width, doesn't increase.
5️⃣ Improves kills per hour in W4 but since you likely won't be pushing W4 portals for long this is relatively low priority.
6️⃣ Max level spice spillage triggers every time. They are lower priority since it takes a lot of star talent points and is likely to trigger several times in a row when checking multiple characters.
7️⃣ 3 crystal mobs per day is very little.
Unlocks the recipes for troll armor giving all stat% and the base for all further armor upgrades. It is great but require plenty of Nullo Salt. Don't buy it if you can't craft them.

[violet gale]

anyone here that got to recently world 6, i want to check it out to see what i should improve

[tender ocean]

probably best to ask in #endgame-chat-w7🐟 ?

oh nvm you asked that in every channel already

[magic haven]

i just got to w3

what to do, there is so much new things aaa

what is trapping, construction, refinery, 3d printer??

[violet gale]

watch titanicllama video on world 3

[fallen crescent]

whats up guys

[violet gale]

he explain alot

hi

[polar bane]

yeah I should have resampled sooner

[tribal sparrow]

Reaching w6 is still div/lab jail.

It's more boring than u expected to be. You can either start preparing for statue farm, vman class if u don't have one, doing equinox, fixing tools, bubo cc if u have liquid investment, stamps, bubbles.

[hot oracle]

Can someone tell me whats wrong with my atom collider? I have it turned on and set to 250m resources , yet despite having more than that amount (1050m) it doesn't convert anything at all.

[tribal sparrow]

Relog. Or re-enter map.

And do 1050 atom so u can still upgrade low end bubbles.

[hot oracle]

Alright thanks

[shy ruin]

why can't i use exp balloons for lab

[uneven obsidian]

cuz lava said so

some skill exp cannot be sped up with candy/balloons

[shy ruin]

damn bruh

lab is so boring and i heard divinity is the same

[uneven obsidian]

yeah lab and div jail arent that great, but the perks they give are important

same for hole jail too

[shy ruin]

how do i unlock more of these slots

[uneven obsidian]

doing arena and reaching certain waves will unlock more

[shy ruin]

oh ok

[stuck rain]

Guys how do i get lots of spices for cooking?

[steel nymph]

u get a lot of spices thru pets duh

[daring falcon]

I’m not sure what to do with my DK at the moment. He’s lvl 100, not enough damage or accuracy to go far in W4. what should I be doing? Crystal farm, getting lvls, farm mats for alchemy, or something else? Thanks in advance🥰

[tribal sparrow]

U got all elitus?

U can start upgrading his tools and equipment with mage for additional wiz.

[mint rivet]

hello every1

👋🏿

[daring falcon]

4/6. budo, DK, BM, ES

[mint rivet]

just unlocked justice

[tribal sparrow]

Get all first and secure killer bright side (lab) before u commit pushing. Pump-up his wis at cost of lower str. Need to juice up for 1.5x accuracy

[daring falcon]

OK thank you so much for the help!!

[mint rivet]

[tribal sparrow]

Also when upgrading bubble up it with it's respective class. Orange - warrior, green - archer etc. for a high discount.

[jade kindle]

what should my jman be doing for 3d printer

[warm dirge]

so i never received the printer star talent you are suppose to get after completing Hoggindaz quest

any ideas on what to do now?

[empty dune]

Is there a chart to where we should farm onyx statues?

[tribal sparrow]

Pins.

[cosmic glade]

Typically refinery monster mats and a few other monster mats for bubbles. Check trials sample sheet. It's in the master guide, I believe.

[still oxide]

How does finding recipes that are not on the wiki or IE not knowing how to read. Or are you just a big booty troll 🧌

[still oxide]

Yea I know that part... THAT don't change that i found other recipes besides what is on the wiki

[still oxide]

I don't have my people jailed

[uneven obsidian]

the recipe on the wiki are either the fastest to complete or the one with the best odds to get that meal. of course other recipe are possible but they dont fall in thsoe 2 categories

[still oxide]

Well all available recipes on the wiki or a chart with all possible should be made. There wasn't any reason for sheepie to say I can't read. When my post had nothing to do with reading the wiki

[tribal sparrow]

U have atleast lvl 50 div and full active lab right?

[uneven obsidian]

the wiki does mention that the list it give are either fastest or best odds

listing all of the possible combination would also make the cooking page huge

[pliant fractal]

tfw i cant say "you cant read" anymore

Actually 1984

[candid berry]

I just beat the w2 dungeon boss but this didn't get checked

am i doing something wrong?

[tribal sparrow]

Probably not the 3rd boss.

[candid berry]

how do i know it's the 3rd boss?

[tribal sparrow]

3rd snake.

[pliant fractal]

you killed 3 bosses

[candid berry]

i went through 5 challenge rooms then I found a snake and 2 doots

[sterile root]

do that 2 more times

[candid berry]

oooooh

oooooooh

thank you

[sterile root]

I have question about the genetics for breeding. Does it help increase the power of the pet and increase odds of the next pet?

[uneven obsidian]

odds of new pet only

[still oxide]

I don't have all those spices yet

[still oxide]

So having the alternatives besides what is on the wiki would be nice

[uneven obsidian]

the wiki crew decided to only show the fastest to complete and the one with better odds to trigger the new recipe

i know ie show some recipe when you unlock a new spicce

[sterile root]

I use idleonefficiency and there it told me alternatives to getting higher chance for a recipe with the spices i have

[still oxide]

Not when you didn't understand my post. You didn't understand that I had found alternatives besides what was on the wiki. (My post was posted AFTER READING THE WIKI......) IM NOT A DUMB ASS.....

I say you're the one who cant read. Since you couldn't read and understand this particular screenshot when blatantly shows i don't have the spices for the 2 recipes that the wiki has.....

[uneven obsidian]

kyria it would help your case to not be confrontional everytime someone say something you dont like, its a recuring pattern with you

sheepie was an ass, sure, ignore and move on

[still oxide]

He is the one who said is cant read...

[uneven obsidian]

still, ignore it and move on

[still oxide]

My initial post was an observation of some recipes I found

[pliant fractal]

true

[uneven obsidian]

yes but you then complained about ppl that refer others to the wiki when it doesnt list the full recipe, which was done consciously

[ancient jay]

worth it or wait ?

[fleet crater]

what is the easiest way, or rather, quickest way I can get 1m deathnote kills for VMan? how can I maximize my time

[fleet crater]

Just want to point out, if you could manage to get 8 billion more damage, it'd be twice as fast

[fallen crescent]

do the afk rifts with your bb's if anything, and 50 hours isnt that much for one rift

[pulsar jewel]

Can sombady help me with the snake jar quest ? Of world 2

[ancient jay]

well i don't think i can up to 21B now

Maybe 19 max

[still oxide]

You must have missed this conversation

[pulsar jewel]

I am in the cookie server 16 and u just have to stand on his platform and say hi

[uneven obsidian]

doesnt really change what i said about you getting confrontational pretty quick when you dont like the answer

[slim mantle]

It kinda is a lot for 1 rift

[fleet crater]

do shrines have a max level, or do they just go up to infinity?

[fallen crescent]

ehhhhhhhhhhh i suppose it is yeah

[white path]

infinity

[still oxide]

I tend to get that from others first then I respond like my convos with occido. He had bitched at me for giving advice that is not the prescribed how to do. And about something he misunderstood

[fleet crater]

then, w5 or w4 town for the long term?

[slim mantle]

No max lvl but they scale rlly hard in requirement

[still oxide]

Don't occ. Yes i used our conversations as a example

[slim mantle]

Didn't missunderstand anything. You just suffer from the worst case of victim complex I have ever seen

[still oxide]

No occ

You completely misunderstood my one conversation about my character classes.

[slim mantle]

No, you just say something different and then bitch about it. Others told you the same thing

[still oxide]

No i didn't

You misunderstood

[slim mantle]

We litterally screenshotted it to you then... no point discussing more with this victim complex of urs

[uneven obsidian]

lets not go back to that convo pls, suffering though that once was enough

or take it to dm

[still oxide]

I you took it out of context

What you said I said was not what I said

[slim mantle]

Nope

[sterile root]

do you still need someone?

[modern timber]

someone know which tomescore for top 25%?

[slim mantle]

Sure in a min when I am at my pc if nobody beats me to it

these are all the different %'s with the current score needed to reach them

[astral lava]

These change and vary due to the amount of players playing right?

[slim mantle]

ehh it changes every once in a while when lava bothers to update it

it's been quite a while since he has

[modern timber]

thx

[raven mist]

how do you make auto kill use your active skills? I did it on one of my beginner characters but it doesnt work on my high level ones

[slim mantle]

are they on ur hotbar?

[raven mist]

yeah

[slim mantle]

then turn this setting on

[uneven obsidian]

need to be done on all characters

[raven mist]

oh ok thanks

[pulsar jewel]

No but thnx for asking

[oblique knoll]

when is it worth replacing the blue tee shirt while exp farming?

[tall harness]

Why would you even use it at all?

[still oxide]

Well i went and did nightmare kattlekruk on my BUBO and it wouldn't use my actual bubo attacks and yes that was on.

[oblique knoll]

for the +15% from monsters

[tall harness]

U get much more from pushing maps and it's stats are trash

Unless u like lvl 5 maybe

[still oxide]

It would only use my mage and shaman attacks

[uneven obsidian]

did you place your bubo attack on bar #1

the game do attack in priority from left to right and in order of bars

[still oxide]

They are on 3 and my bubo is currently in the rift and its working like its suppose to. But in wouldn't use them in the NM Kattlekruk.

[latent bramble]

take this one of your bar if its on

[still oxide]

I literally had to manually click them

[uneven obsidian]

should have the few required ability a bubo need all on bar 1

[latent bramble]

it gets fucky sometimes if there's nothing in range

[uneven obsidian]

also what ace just said

[latent bramble]

can also take this one off if you're just autoing

[uneven obsidian]

either of these is all you need really for bubo

[still oxide]

The poison attacks are the stronger attacks though

[uneven obsidian]

with #2 being pretty much all you need once you get maxed books

[latent bramble]

that one requires you to actually flick the poisons, if you're not, there's no reason to have it

[uneven obsidian]

yeah the poison potion is an active active skill, wont work with auto, similar to coin toss on vman

[still oxide]

And they work outside the NM K like they are suppose to and I'm not have to manually flick pots

[uneven obsidian]

it will use the skill and wait for it to deactivate without tossing a potion

doing nothing while it wait for it to deactivate

[latent bramble]

if you're talking about this skill

that's this one

[still meadow]

I really got to fix my bubo eventually. I just never use it actively ever

[still meadow]

That is one ominous skull

[uneven obsidian]

its the cloud the fart spread, you know the silent but deadly kind

[ebon kestrel]

Equinox Dream #13, cranium cooking. Any tips?

[still oxide]

Doesn't that enhance the poison clouds

[uneven obsidian]

book cc and tenta, alchy po, boost that cc bubble. about all their is to it

[floral crest]

In tremor wurms or citringes. Keep leveling up cooking roadkill

[latent bramble]

no, the one they replied to is the injection

[floral crest]

Also get every talent to 200

[latent bramble]

i think it's an auto attack enhancer that can lock up if mobs aren't around. granted, kruk was there, so I just chalk it up to being fucky and you don't want it for CC anyway so just take it off

[sterile root]

when should I priotize unlocking anvil tab #4? I recently got into world 4

[floral crest]

Pretty much the only hotbar you'll need.

[still oxide]

It was only for the task

[floral crest]

Funny one is having this as last one for free trophy

[uneven obsidian]

when you can manage to get far enough in the TD for those damn frosty souls

[sterile root]

should i try to unlock towers or upgrade them?

i got to the stormcaller tower

[agile willow]

this is the cheapest thing worth going for in tab4, whenever you think this is easy to get its worth pushing that tab, if you think it won't take you that many hours to unlock the tab itself

[still oxide]

I dont think i need to kill NMK on my bubo again so does it matter?

[latent bramble]

if you ever want to CC

[agile willow]

#midgame-chat-w3🧊w4🔮 message here's an old guide to get some progress in the frosty td, try reaching the lvls in the description of the video

[sterile root]

thanks

[floral crest]

U wont need bubo to kill nightmare kruk with wand/staff attacks just punch his face in as you AOE the moles for 0 heals

What do u even need that speed for

[still oxide]

Hold on let me check

[floral crest]

If U wanted kruk dead in seconds you go to ES or something

[still oxide]

Um you missed my saying it was for a task

[floral crest]

Ye it wont matter then. It will just be quick

wat dmg u killing it with?

[ebon kestrel]

Seem to still be missing something.

[ebon kestrel]

Wtf.

[latent bramble]

is your tenteycle at 200+? (and CC maxed)
po box maxed?
bubble level?

[floral crest]

you're quite close! you should just level up your cooking roadkill if you can

[ebon kestrel]

Tent is not, it's... 123 I think.

[latent bramble]

that's like 98% of the problem then, i'd come back once you get that

[floral crest]

ooh damn yeah you're gonna need 200 tentacle for that

[ebon kestrel]

I'm 2 checkouts away from my next book.

So once I get that I'll try again.

[floral crest]

you can try to do your killroy if you havent done that yet

[ebon kestrel]

He's asleep and I'm 200 gems short.

[floral crest]

shop gives you checkouts for 8 skulls

oh you're done with alright

guess you can wait it out then

[fleet crater]

nice, altho I would say getting the tentacle cooldown reduction to level 200 would be better than having more damage for stuff you could already one shot, goes from 2 seconds to 3 seconds off at 200

[still oxide]

I do have some points in place to claim h/o

[floral crest]

oh ye that's rough uh you can try to level name I guess, smarter spells, stable jenius and mage is best

[ebon kestrel]

Okay, I'll book it in a couple hours when I have enough checkouts.

[floral crest]

matty stafford too but only with bargain

[still oxide]

Nah he already ded. I just had to manual the fight and he was easy

On my bubo

[floral crest]

alright nice ye see he's quite easy

A literal npc just standing there waiting for you to beat him up

[still oxide]

The hardest one was killing him on my BB because the bb don't have good skills

[floral crest]

ye I had to use my largest AOE only when the moles were near

[still oxide]

I autoed but it took longer because of the moles kept overloading so when she did her AoE it gave a break to deal decent damage to kattlekruk

[ebon kestrel]

Unfortunately I have 3 BB and a VW, so doing the 10 NKK in a row is going to be absolute hell.

[still oxide]

My BB is my first character (though I don't consider her as my main. My main is my es)

[still oxide]

Why 3 bb

[ebon kestrel]

My first/main was a warrior, went BB. I had a warrior for mining, and one for fishing. The fourth went construction/DK.

[polar bane]

bb is not that bad, vman is worse

[still oxide]

You should have
1 bm( i have 2)
1 bb( i have 2)
1 bubo( some actually have 2. I do Not)
1 vman
2 sm
2 dk
2 es( i have 2)

I'm going to suggest you fix your classes

[still oxide]

I know I've been told to shoot for 200b damage

[ebon kestrel]

I have 3 BB, 1 DK, 1 SB, 2 ES, 1 VM, and 1 Bubo.

What would I need 2 DK to do?

[uneven obsidian]

construction

[ebon kestrel]

I am only at like level 180 on it, might help...

[still oxide]

And gaming?

[white lintel]

3BB wtf

[uneven obsidian]

only need 1 dk for gaming

those talent dont stack

[ebon kestrel]

I started when W3 was new, I think. I didn't have a wiki or Discord community.

Thought I was doin' pretty good.

[balmy walrus]

eyo if i craft new tier skulls will the charge rate from the prev skull disappear

[still oxide]

I think i started when w4 or 5 was new

[slim mantle]

you lose charge when unequiping ur skull so use it up first

[velvet anchor]

What

[surreal nimbus]

3 BB HUUH??

[still oxide]

I can tell you that having that second bm has helped some for breeding. I've gotten 2 full fills of eggs due to thier afk collection egg talent

[still oxide]

So why 2 sm over 2 bm

[uneven obsidian]

because catching is a lot harder than breeding

[still oxide]

What problems are you having with catching?

I haven't had any issues

[uneven obsidian]

its scaling is really bad

[waxen copper]

Catching is an active skill you can print more of, what are you gonna print on your bm

[still oxide]

Mob drops

For the refinery

[waxen copper]

Exactly. Because bm is so bad it can't even go to any active skills

[fossil kayak]

[still oxide]

I dont seem to have that issue i got tons of bugs crammed in my chest

[west pilot]

BM is hot garbage over SB

[waxen copper]

Do you have 2 sb?

[still oxide]

Well i just used a ton too

[still oxide]

No

[waxen copper]

How far in the game are you?

[latent bramble]

the disparity in vman mob prints vs BM kind of makes it useless for printing

[pure helm]

There is a reason its listed last 2 DK and ES are better.

[still oxide]

W6-m9

[waxen copper]

People in w6 are probably gonna have a lot more resources than the average player choosing a 2nd archer :p

[still oxide]

Thats why I did 2 bb for fishing

[west pilot]

2 bb 😦

[waxen copper]

I kinda just leave my Vman to do all the fishing

[west pilot]

My worst nightmare

[waxen copper]

He already has 308m eff, and bb's in kitchen purgatory

[west pilot]

Vman printing fish is worse than 3 bbs

[waxen copper]

Oh no no

[still oxide]

Cooking was the other reason I did the second bb

[waxen copper]

He does idle fishing. Not print

[zenith hare]

holy hell 95k without 200 tentieye

[west pilot]

You can still print those

[zenith hare]

youre gonna be at like 300k seconds when you get it

[waxen copper]

My vman prints monster mats from speedrunning

[zenith hare]

its suggested to print them so he can do other things

fishing is one of the easiest skills to level afterall

[west pilot]

Print with bb

[zenith hare]

as it has a near 0 skill eff requirement for max xp gain

[waxen copper]

I do, but he's been in kitchen so I haven't resampled in a while

[zenith hare]

he shouldnt be in kitchen

three situations where he should be in kitchen

rushing for cheese for choco chip, equinox, or gstack ladles

[waxen copper]

Equinox

That's why he's in kitchen

[zenith hare]

then he shouldnt need to be in there for long anyways

[west pilot]

How much ladles you get

[zenith hare]

5 days, maybe more

[waxen copper]

He gets like 1,300 ladles a day

[zenith hare]

thatll be why

you do know that is 50 days?

[waxen copper]

I think that's more

[zenith hare]

just barely longer then active sb

[zenith hare]

no as PO box gives 50% chance to double ladle gain

[waxen copper]

Consider this: he's probably already been there for a month, and I have 29k ladles rn

[zenith hare]

which averages to just under 2k ladles

per day

if youre getting any less then that. dont even bother with it

cooking eff is relatively easy to get a lot of via stamps alone

so just work on those

now add on any afk% bonuses and proper cards

and also proper gear

proper gfood (w6 afk% and w5 all stat%)

can probably cut that time in half already by that

if not more

[waxen copper]

My stamps are gonna be a hard one to improve

[zenith hare]

maybe upgrade ur mat bags

including the stamps

[waxen copper]

No it's just the sheer amount of sand sharks I need

[zenith hare]

and mason stamp

[zenith hare]

and we've gone full circle

bb should be printing those

[waxen copper]

BB is printing equinox fish and gfish ..

Which I could change the equinox fs

[zenith hare]

and have that as a priority resample, espcially if he is a cook rat

also get the carry cap gain prayer

and level that up

[waxen copper]

Is that 120 acorn?

[zenith hare]

yeah, pretty easy

esp if youre getting 1k+ ladles a day

[waxen copper]

I only made it to wave 83 :(

But I also didn't follow a guide

[zenith hare]

maybe do so

[waxen copper]

I just... Spammed a lot of poison

And krakens here and there

[zenith hare]

bad

you will only ever need 1 poison

there is only more in those setups as theyre placed after everything else

[waxen copper]

Level NINETY???,

[zenith hare]

90 gets you to 170

you need 120

[waxen copper]

I think my construction is heavily lacking

[zenith hare]

at ur stage, pois and kraken should be 30/40

[still oxide]

And for carry cap do the telekinetic chest to max +13.6% carry cap

[zenith hare]

^ also that

[still oxide]

And the Mason jar stamp

[feral rain]

guys quick question what do i upgrade my void armor into the mage stuff next or chizoar?

[zenith hare]

i did mention the stamps

[zenith hare]

chiz, and opnly top half chiz

[waxen copper]

Pois and krak are 49 each. Party at 57

[zenith hare]

!gear

[candid scarab]

Gear Recommendations

[crude tulip]

What is meant by "dps mode" on that pic?

[zenith hare]

easily enough

[zenith hare]

something that you dont have to worry about

its basically focusing all dps when youve reached ur wave cap

[waxen copper]

So I should get to 120 easily?

[zenith hare]

should yes

[zenith hare]

kraken part is the most important part

cant die if nothing can get past

and you have just under 3 hours to kill the wave

[waxen copper]

Aside from the fact I'm probably doing nothing right, how do I get so much damage for the final w5 and the w6 spices

[pure helm]

... several hours latter ...

[zenith hare]

which is easily enough time for an early td

[pure helm]

That is how its done thu.

[zenith hare]

4 acorns, 3 tsars above, 1 forager above

[still oxide]

I didn't see it sorry. Isn't there a source in alch too?

[waxen copper]

But I need 4 different spices

[zenith hare]

yeah and you can only work on 2 at once

that is how you get enough fight power for every territory

[waxen copper]

Damn

[zenith hare]

that is the most fight power setup in the game

with alright forage speed still

[zenith hare]

stamp doubler

from lab

no sigils cause any, dont think any vials do either

[still oxide]

Void told me to use these top row for arena and the bottom row for territory battles

[zenith hare]

doubt any bubbles do

[zenith hare]

and he'd be right, if you dont have peashooter. minus ordering

top one swaps order a bit

[still oxide]

I had to sub the rattler

[zenith hare]

sand giant, defender, walking stick, looter, whale, borger

otherwise when looter kills you eventually your defender will die

[still oxide]

I actually got to 200 with only the mimic and the sand giant left in that order

[zenith hare]

you run out of refiller eventually in that order which kills you

just means ur sand giant was high enough level

[still oxide]

I got to like 218 before I said fork it

It was just those 2 for like 50 rounds

Maybe more

[zenith hare]

you couldve lived for another hour and a half

got a high stack of refiller it seems

normally he dies too fast to live for long enough

[floral crest]

Finally (I dont got strung tooth)

[still oxide]

I just use the walking stick and the whale on both

I just got the other rattler

[north linden]

how can i get the 20k power statues for monolith? ive seen people say to use dk at beans but im barely getting any crystal mobs and they arent dropping power statues

[zenith hare]

work on the quest and the cape drops for the trophy and you get the tooths there

[zenith hare]

you need to get ur crystal chance to ab 1/100, have ab 8x dr, use choco chip, and then itll take you 30 hours of active

[north linden]

where can i see my crystal chance

[zenith hare]

crystal chance is very easy to get to that amount tbh

IE/IT

[north linden]

n how do i increase my dr to that i kinda rushed to w6 and can barely get my dk to 4.2x

[zenith hare]

obols is the easiest way

early on anyways

POP obols to silver, and dice obols on every other slot

[north linden]

what drops dice obols

[zenith hare]

if you can get w5 miniboss obols, even better

dice obols is crystals in w2

[north linden]

more crystals

[zenith hare]

so make sure crystal chance is good enough, then do that

dr isnt as big as an issue as you only need a small amount of dice

compared to...well 20k powers

[agile willow]

i wouldn't do it that early, you need a lot more DR to get all statues, focus on getting more DR first. here's trickz stats when he did it when feature launched #midgame-chat-w3🧊w4🔮 message

[zenith hare]

theyre in w6

[floral crest]

ye I did that on ES and maybe I should've done it with DK

[zenith hare]

people should be doing it late w5

[agile willow]

i mean i'd get DR before doing the grind as it can decrease the grind time by a lot

[zenith hare]

with all the updates since it was released considered

oh absolutely

but there isnt too many "easy" sources around that isnt afk locked

owl is one of them

other then that, obols is next easiest tbh for major bonuses

[zenith hare]

unless they can get midas prayer and level it, which tbh should be plausible

[broken moat]

How rare is this?

[agile willow]

none of the updates affected drop chance of statues nor crystal spawn chance, so most of the values in that image are still relevant, the only thing that had a big change imo is afk% as we have afk% golden food now

[zenith hare]

owl

[still oxide]

Its not

[agile willow]

at least obols and cards

[zenith hare]

its a good 0.6dr early on, which is massive

not including multis ofc

[agile willow]

yeah, that affects your drop rate, not the drop chance of statues

[zenith hare]

it gives you more chances to roll for statues

which gives you more statues

[agile willow]

that makes it easier to reach the 15DR recommended by trickz, not how easy it is to get a statue once you reach 15DR

[zenith hare]

no thats wayyy too much

yes its good enough, but ur at the point in the game where you dont actually get impacted by statues a lot

you missed that opportunity

yes its still a massive impact

feasty is lovely~

but onyx's are so important for pushing w6

[still oxide]

You know what sucks it's the mman that also a crystal mob talent

[zenith hare]

and by 15x dr, youve basically alr done the hard part of w6

[midnight plover]

How do i unlock more slots for the battling

[zenith hare]

arena, you need to be breeding level 8

button at the top screen in the foraging screen

[north linden]

dk or es for farming the obols? and do i do it afk or active

[stray ember]

Which should i do onyx or cc to get my last bubbles?

[zenith hare]

dk for all crystal mob drops

es for base mobs (pop obols)

[north linden]

👍

[zenith hare]

and active

[latent bramble]

beating certain arena waves

[zenith hare]

w2 at tysons or sandy pots, w1 at giga frogs for pops

[midnight plover]

Oh i didnt even know the arena was a thing, im level 27 in breeding

[zenith hare]

sandy pots is slightly worse but you multitask mason stamp

[vital bay]

should i be building drop chance when farming for presents?

[latent bramble]

doesn't affect present drop rate

[vital bay]

omd

ive been doing that all event

[zenith hare]

lower class level, time to kill, and one other thing impacts it afaia

forget that last thing

its basically balanced around later people taking longer so people who cant kill mobs still has a decent drop chance

honestly its really good that he did that

[still oxide]

I wish the dk had the coin and dr sources that the jman,mman,vman has especially the crystal talent

[zenith hare]

dk is still the best coin farmer

[still oxide]

I know but I wish those talents were on my dk not my vman

[green cloud]

Which char should I create for my 8th char? I have every class already

[zenith hare]

second dk

for construction speed in particular

@shut terrace youre on the same screen as lava!

[forest canyon]

What an honor

[tender ocean]

@runic coral on my bm

[shut terrace]

that's crazy

[still oxide]

Cool personal best

[haughty birch]

Where are the Owlio critters located at?

[knotty falcon]

Hey everyone, I'm currently at max book lvl 210, but my checkout speed is really lacking. Is there a cheat sheet with sources to boost that? I assume it's not farmable, but still.

[still oxide]

!checkout

I think there is a command for that

[latent bramble]

Not for speed

[still oxide]

!maxbook

[fleet crater]

How do you unlock shiny pets?

[latent bramble]

https://idleoninsight.com/?search=checkout

[still oxide]

Unlock in breeding

[fleet crater]

How so?

[white path]

level 40 breeding bonus

[latent bramble]

bonuses here too

[fleet crater]

ah, so is it the level 40 upgrade?

ty

[fleet crater]

thats some expensive dna to upgrade at only level 8 lol

[still oxide]

Thats nothing

[fleet crater]

I'm scared

[still oxide]

There is also cost reducers elsewhere

Idt im at them

[still oxide]

Look at my mats cost on some of these its far worse if you don't have fantastic cooking speed

[fleet crater]

bruh, I havent even unlocked that recipe

[still oxide]

Ye

Oh well the eggs one is 5/5 idk why it still shows to upgrade unless there is an enhancement somewhere

[fleet crater]

Probably was programmed with an equation, so malayse caused the next "possible" level to be shown

[still oxide]

Still alot of meals

[vapid egret]

Hi, is there any breeding guide? Like for unlocking next spice? The spice I am now the pets get 1 shot any guide?

[latent bramble]

!guide spreadsheet has setups for all w1-5 stuff
#1208108939313684621 this has stuff for w6 maps

[candid scarab]

Mid-Late Game guide for World 3 / 4 / 5:
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/e/2PACX-1vSCepYAs6sNDP4iq6MJNAG1pvFXzfC_3IQ7ttt5vfEEKAgQhIk4cQqnLRyeH6UyqDSuP4R-6WQeDmmP/pubhtml
Video Guides (by GriffyBit):
https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLVGSDQs1AcvjYTAPtYV6ofbeeEfHpEcb4

[vapid egret]

Cool 🙂 Thanks for this.

[elfin flax]

What should I be doing after unlocking maestro? It seems super underwhelming for now ..?

[broken moat]

I am seriously addivted to hunter skill

[cold wraith]

cus none of the meaninful upgrades you can get are available

[broken moat]

I do the eagle eye mode

[cold wraith]

yep

[latent bramble]

make sure he's highest skill level so your other skills can make use of his Right Hand talent, then resample

[cold wraith]

i forgot but does more mk give more drops for es

@latent bramble

[broken moat]

I see that farming flies boosts accuracy, kinda weird

Wish me luck with shiny scorpions

[cold wraith]

yes

[broken moat]

So i can upgrade my bani

[cold wraith]

luck

[broken moat]

Bank

[latent bramble]

more base mob drops, yeah. that's half the purpose of MK

[cold wraith]

more cards?

[hushed summit]

Hello Gents,
I got an issue with the main quest W3...
Yesterday on the same char, I was at 12/24
Today I gather the salts, and end up at 8/24...

What I have to do , what do I miss ?

[cold wraith]

if you have the second salt running it might have used up your salts

[latent bramble]

No, though you'll get more cards on ES due to portal DR

[cold wraith]

oh hours means how much materials you have that the salt needs

[hushed summit]

the second salt was full stacks when I gathered

[cold wraith]

so if the red salt needs 15 gmush caps and 5 horns per hour then you need that times 24 for completed quest

[hushed summit]

oh I have to stacks compos ?

[cold wraith]

stack materials

[hushed summit]

yeah

[cold wraith]

just get more mats until it completes

[hushed summit]

alright, ill try, thank you

[cold wraith]

so dr card > mk emperor card?

[hot ravine]

does putting more pets in the yard of the same increase the speed of the harts if you know what i mean

the breedability

[latent bramble]

if you aren't focused on mob drops, yeah. i would snapshot CDR then swap to either crystal setup or full DR or maybe mix of DR and damage if it helps you push another wave of portal

[cold wraith]

hm ok

why crystal tho

[latent bramble]

you can go full DR

might as well farm crystals when active though

[cold wraith]

well ig

i alr onyx w5 but more statues wont hurt

[latent bramble]

more goldfood won't hurt

[errant ice]

I've just unlocked world 3, what is this thing and the other one

[ebon storm]

That's refinery

every cycle produces salt

using the materials in that block

[latent bramble]

Did you read the quest thoroughly?

[errant ice]

so I need to get spores

[latent bramble]

Check out the hints section, too

[errant ice]

Reading? never heard of it

[ebon storm]

aint got time to read

but yeah get spores and copper

[latent bramble]

https://tenor.com/view/family-guy-peter-griffin-pointing-ah-ah-he-said-it-gif-24183120

[ebon storm]

beter

[latent bramble]

a true idleoner

[errant ice]

!gear

[candid scarab]

Gear Recommendations

[cold wraith]

#bot-commands

[pure helm]

Its also the same info in all channels.

[lone river]

What should I be targeting next in breeding? I've been ignoring W3 because I haven't bothered to get the W3 DNA splicer yet.

[floral crest]

Until snelbie and you get wave 5th pet slot in pet arena and get going at bop box in w3 splicing

[sudden coral]

has anyone lost construction randomly

lost like 10%

[latent bramble]

ballot bonus changed today

[sudden coral]

ah thanks

[slim mantle]

btw check pins 🙂 zoro added a nice one

[broken moat]

woot i got to the ice cold glasses

i am like 3 maps away from Chizors

i am sooo happy

my final steps in W3

guys does more speed also mean faster attacks?

[sudden coral]

attack speed yes but agility just movement speed which slightly increases afk gains

[broken moat]

This feels like winning the lottery

[tight ravine]

at first yes
If you wanna get a high chance for lots of shinies (relative to your progress)
You can always equip the 20 minute traps.
They do yield more if you remember to collect them in time.

[mint fractal]

got to world 4 today, am i suppose to just put every1 beside my main into labs

[torpid acorn]

just got the killers brightside from labs so im at 2k kills now with my DK. if im able to eventually free a guy from lab what should i make him do? or do i just keep pushing lab buffs

[agile willow]

imo w4 priority list is

• get everyone their elite classes
• reach killer brightside lab node
• push to w5

[torpid acorn]

agree

[agile willow]

there is one other that is good, the shrine one. it allows you to put all shrines in w4 town and don't move them

[mint fractal]

whats the elite class priority

[torpid acorn]

omfg i forgot about shrines

[mint fractal]

im currently trying to get es

[latent bramble]

you mean this isn't peak w4 gameplay?

oh and this guy

[torpid acorn]

you get them all pretty fast so i dont think theres much of a difference for efficiencys sake

[mint fractal]

k

[torpid acorn]

just push them all at the same time

[agile willow]

es/dk for main pusher, then hunter, barbarian and shaman elites because they're specialized in w4 skills, then the rest

also try to remake your amarok gear or make dementia gear set with w4 upgrade stones, w4 upgrade stones are huge

w1-w3 upgrade stones gave random stat, w4+ stones always gives main stat (str for warrior, agi for archer and wis for mage)

[mint fractal]

either im unlucky but i was only able to upgrade 1 piece

from the stones

[torpid acorn]

yeah odds eat up a lot of stones

youll need to buy out the shop a few times

[mint fractal]

is theres anyother way to get them

[torpid acorn]

its the easiest way

[agile willow]

no, but getting elites allows you to get a lot of money to buy them

[torpid acorn]

i assume they have a drop chance though for later W4 not that its worth it

[mint fractal]

also for tools do i upgrade main stats or for accuracy?

[agile willow]

if you're struggling with accuracy you can boost accuracy stat with the stones, if you want wis for your warrior you upgrade the gear on a mage and then equip on the warrior

[torpid acorn]

you dont need to farm money directly

[agile willow]

do what you need the most, getting 100% accuracy is the most important, but after 100% you want main stat for damage

[latent bramble]

w4 stones are from shop, colo, and po box

so realistically just shop

[mint fractal]

ok tysm, final question should i be leveling up my chars to get the 7th char before doing labs or just do labs

[agile willow]

yeah get more chars

[mint fractal]

and slowly level up through getting everyone to sub class

[agile willow]

more chars = more people in lab = faster to get to good lab nodes

[mint fractal]

ok tysmmmm

[agile willow]

lvling them up also gives you more talent points, so you can get better samples

[torpid acorn]

i have had a eighth character unlocked for a month now but im too lazy to set him up

i know im bricking my efficiency but its funny

[agile willow]

well setting him up minimally is not as hard as you'd think, give him some lvls in w3 and then he can push w1-w2 in like an hour, its nice to see the progress you've made

[torpid acorn]

yeah i know i assume its way easier than my seventh was and that took like 30 minutes

but i had finals and now im playing spider man 2

so the lad will rot in the womb till after christmas

[tribal sparrow]

Let him rot at lab.

[daring lark]

how to get enough accuracy to push world 4 ?

[agile willow]

besides all the things you've problably heard from w1-w3, w4 upgrade stones are a lot better because they give main stat

w1-w3 upgrade stones gave random stat, w4+ stones always gives main stat (str for warrior, agi for archer and wis for mage)

if you're struggling with accuracy you can boost accuracy stat with the stones, if you want wis for your warrior you upgrade the gear on a mage and then equip on the warrior

[daring lark]

do i use them on amarok still?

[agile willow]

either amarok or dementia, dementia is better but if you find it too expensive don't do it

like if you think it'd take days to get a full dementia set

the chars that aren't the main pusher can stay in amarok

[daring lark]

thanks

[solemn tulip]

is there a limit to star talent points? i havent gotten any after leveling up and even putting points on the star talent point skill in tab 1

[white lintel]

No

Also you gotta probably leave and come back from the portal

[daring lark]

in what order shld i buy bonuses for w4 gem shop?

[white lintel]

Buy one richilin kitchen

[fossil kayak]

you can get quite a few of them

[white lintel]

If you have lots of extra gems, buy all the lab gems from the lab shop, and also could gamba chips for choccy (not entirely recommended if you’re just starting w4)

[raven mist]

is there any reason to grind skills outside your class's specialization?

like a warrior grinding logs

[forest portal]

to equipt better tools

[fossil kayak]

Yes, better tools is one reason. Another would be skill mastery from rift

[raven mist]

why would having better tools matter if you arent grinding those skills anyway?

[fossil kayak]

[raven mist]

ohh

didnt know they gave flat stat bonuses

[fossil kayak]

The DR is the big get there too

[raven mist]

damage resistance?

[fossil kayak]

Drop Chance (Drop Rate)

[raven mist]

oh ok

[dusk ledge]

Anyone know the best things to spend event points on?

[white lintel]

The base stats are there big thing

[white lintel]

The printer one

[dusk ledge]

Alright, will just save up for it then

[calm vault]

is there any use for these rings

[forest portal]

craft even better rings

the subbed lab rings l think

[hidden violet]

Hey guys. Just arrived at w3. Is there a shop here for better armor/wep upgrade stones?

[forest portal]

he is at the bottem

[hidden violet]

Oh wow he’s blended in the bg lmao

Completely missed him

[white lintel]

If you’re in lab jail check it their better than serrated Rex rings

You can also make upgraded lab rings too

[steady cove]

If this is high performance mode, I am afraid to turn it off lol

[deep silo]

1 more upgrade at refinery and i can't keep up anymore 😦

[forest portal]

just manualy farm

[deep silo]

gotta farm nuget cakes 😦

[forest portal]

ic

[deep silo]

too many things to focus

[forest portal]

its fine l was also struggling for mob prints early on

[deep silo]

wouldn't be so bad if rng was on my side sometimes

farmed for 1 item for like 5 days on 1.5 chars for the time

[forest portal]

his game gonna expload

[tribal sparrow]

Let it suffer.

[tribal sparrow]

Why u not using lab 2x print?