midgame-chat-w3🧊w4🔮

[quiet crane]

@slim mantle i made the last staff for my es but i didnt have the lvl so i have to level it bare handed

[viscid dagger]

is it thermisters?

[slim mantle]

https://tenor.com/view/haha-funny-laugh-baby-cute-gif-10321620323037347719

[fallen crescent]

when will i ever get pristine charms

[twin bay]

nob

[viscid dagger]

i got it xd

[slim mantle]

they're insanely rare, don't expect to be getting them all from drops, just buy em xD

[quiet crane]

[slim mantle]

found a grand total of 3

[twin bay]

wha tare prinstine charms

oh

[fallen crescent]

yeah i already bought three when i first got to sneaking, but i just wanna have the feeling of getting one manually for once

[twin bay]

wow

[slim mantle]

I got my first one around like 6-7k found items

[twin bay]

shiny

i gotta lock in on sneaking bro

[slim mantle]

I had to buy all but 1 of my charms

[fallen crescent]

this counts for shiny timers aswell right? just double checking

okay cool

if only bm also had an enemy respawn mechanic

[cosmic glade]

Note that it only applies to active kills

[fallen crescent]

ofc ofc, otherwise itd be way too insane

[slim mantle]

it technically has it from hunter

[quiet crane]

it has tho :D

[fallen crescent]

a better one*

[slim mantle]

and better aoe

[fallen crescent]

like what dk/sb/bubo/es have for example

like a constant flow of monsters would be so nice

[twin bay]

dinvine inter kinda sux

lol dinvine

[quiet crane]

WHAT

? :D

[twin bay]

slow

[quiet crane]

slow if u clear slow

[fallen crescent]

its actually pretty good tho, it immediately respawns all enemies once theyre all dead

[twin bay]

it only act if u full clear

[quiet crane]

u can respawn like every 3 seconds

[slim mantle]

I agree tho, it's the worst one out of the 4

[fallen crescent]

with dk on a flat map you have two waves of enemies within a second

[fallen crescent]

thats obviously true, but it doesnt make it bad persay

[twin bay]

it takes a second to respawn

this might not be a problem for u guys, but sometimes my bubo just, doesnt use the respawn dead move cause all the mobs are dead and its annoying to use manually

[slim mantle]

that just means you messed up ur hotbar

[twin bay]

how is it supposed to look

[tall harness]

On mobile it sucks

If u using it

[slim mantle]

the respawn talent, cranium cooking, aura, ghost and that's it

[twin bay]

i also have the respawn talent first

also why not chem warfare?

[tall harness]

Chem warfare delays casting of other stuff

[slim mantle]

you level it up for the damage but don't place it on the hotbar, it slows down ur rate of respawning and placing aura

[twin bay]

put it at the end

[slim mantle]

your hotbar should only have the 4 talents I mentioned, absolutely nothing else

[tall harness]

It delays it cause from observation it is not an insta cast and takes some time

[twin bay]

i placed like 4 spirits before 1 of the enmies i was farming got infected

[slim mantle]

it takes a moment to fill the area but ur main killing is aura anyway, just try it and you'll see you get more cc seconds with just the 4 I said without chemical warfare

[twin bay]

i guess i can only farm on moltis and above now

[slim mantle]

.. map matters a lot btw for bubo

[twin bay]

ikik

molti mad is like smaller tangerines and i dont do too much damage so im doing moltis

[slim mantle]

when not citringes it was some w4 map, flombeiges I think?

[twin bay]

soda cans and flom

fombleiges where super annoying cause the gas would keep going to the top area with no mobs

[slim mantle]

theres a reason citringes and tremor wurms are better :p

[twin bay]

ik

[slim mantle]

u should be close to doing enough dmg for citringes anyway if u got ur lvl 200 talents already

[twin bay]

my bubo only has like 130m damage

nope still tryna get level 200 talents..

[slim mantle]

don't even touch bubo before 200...

[twin bay]

man

[fallen crescent]

yucky i only have 13k agility

[twin bay]

is there even a wiki page for talent level boosts

where :(

[slim mantle]

this for library

[twin bay]

how u got dark mode

[slim mantle]

but u got other sources extra to library ofc so ES family thing, last tab 4 talent on all elites, equinox, an achievement, arctis god link

[slim mantle]

extension

[twin bay]

bru

[slim mantle]

what

[proper locust]

Why is every char online but after I switched from elemental sorcerer all chars are offline for some reason

[twin bay]

im 14 nutella salts off of w5 tab

why all ur guys on the top?

[proper locust]

Cause I only had like 2 actually online and just wanted to see where the others are that are offline

[twin bay]

ok

[proper locust]

I got king doot pet and after that all chars are online but only on elemental sorcerer and idk why

[slim mantle]

do all chars have atleast level 2 divinity?

[proper locust]

No, only elemental and v-man

[slim mantle]

that's gonna be ur issue then

[proper locust]

Damn

[slim mantle]

doot only works when u have atleast level 2 divinity

[twin bay]

thats weird

[floral crest]

Im surprised we didnt update in thursday

[slim mantle]

not rlly, it's to prevent u from getting god benefits before you're actually world 5

[proper locust]

Bruh, why doesn't it say that :(

But thanks for the help

[slim mantle]

u don't want to ignore divinity anyway, it's important to level up even if u have doot

[twin bay]

oh

[proper locust]

Why?

[slim mantle]

you gain more bonusses from their minor link based on ur divinity level and u need to unlock the gods anyway to level up their blessings. also there is 1 god not touched by doot

cuz only 1 char can link to that god

[proper locust]

Oh

[twin bay]

still cant craft w5 tab

no carry cap

[slim mantle]

[high basin]

Has anyone else noticed an absurd drop in the count in death note?

[slim mantle]

nope

[keen current]

why can green salts be ranked up freely?

[slim mantle]

it's 4x slower than blue and costs 1 to 1 so you'd have to heavily neglect getting the earlier ones up to even run a deficit with green

[keen current]

oh i forgot about the differences in cycle times, thank you

[stray ember]

Why is the multiplier flickering?

[slim mantle]

visual bug

[stray ember]

Alr

[hexed shoal]

What are good ways to increase my refinery cycle speed?

[slim mantle]

construction mastery

[hexed shoal]

Im only at rift 2)=

Low dr

[slim mantle]

...

it's not like u need a ton of dr

[fallen crescent]

pet breeding (through shinies), cooking too right? uhhhh yeah i cant think of anything else

[hexed shoal]

I do when it took me nearly 200 boss fights for a chizoar blankie and got 2 obols in the proccess

[slim mantle]

not related to just getting 3 drops with es in an entire fucking hour

[hexed shoal]

3rd attempt with him alrdy

[slim mantle]

ur talking like u have no dmg and only 1 dr

[pliant fractal]

just click the button

[twin bay]

ty

[zinc crater]

I just got to w4, do I upgrade my dementia armor for dmg or for accuracy?

[queen violet]

Things that help refinery but arnt refinery speed persay.
weekly Killroy purchase refinery
Squire's combustion talent
Omniphau (world 5 divinity. Elephant god)

Then you have bubbles and rift stuff that help alot.
And the stamp.

[elfin widget]

Is there some sort of bug for tome ranking? I went from top 25% to top 10% and now i am back at top 25%

[wet terrace]

For defence and accuracy. For example, if you're using warrior and need accuracy (wis stat), you need to have wizard upgrade the armor with w4 upgrade stones because the stones add mainstat+ based on the character using the stones (warriors for str, archers for agi, wiz for wis)

[zinc crater]

Oops. I put damage instead of accuracy on one of my pieces already.

[wet terrace]

You just started w4 right?

[zinc crater]

Yeah

[wet terrace]

Set all your prints so that they sustain refinery and place all your chars in lab

[zinc crater]

I'm not done with what I'm having my other characters are doing. Why put them in lab right away?

[queen violet]

Free talent points and Eventually you want to do it anyway. You want it done before you get to world 5 because you wont have time

Get to zone 4 to get your elite classes then drop everyone in labs save your ousher

[wet terrace]

Massive boosts, such as x2 prints (effective those for characters inside lab), x3 refinery cycles, and x2 kills for portal requirement. Thus leave one character for world pushing such as DK or ES

Ah right, push to 4th mob in w4 first for elite class

[queen violet]

Would 5 is going to be the same thing but with Divinity. And divinity expands on what Labs can do with bear god

[fallen crescent]

for some reason i cant complete the constellation on the wurms map, im on 4/5 but the 5th just doesnt wanna count it, could anyone think of a reason why?

[queen violet]

Whats the quest?

[fallen crescent]

kill 100 wurms within 100 seconds of entering the map on 5 players

[fallen ridge]

try leave and renter map

[fallen crescent]

ive done it on 4/5 but the 5th just wont count for some reason

[fallen crescent]

done multiple times

[fallen ridge]

my only guess

[wet terrace]

Might be the same character, check IT to see what characters filled that cons

[queen violet]

Have you checked with idleon efficiency?

[fallen crescent]

it says it at the bottom of the constellation, i tried it with the characters i havent done it on, but it still doesnt count

[queen violet]

Like @wet terrace said might just be the same toon and you forgot

[fallen ridge]

it litteraly says "this player has already completed this" or "has not done this"

[fallen crescent]

also i cant check IT or IE cause of email/login issues, so i wont be able to do that

[fallen crescent]

^^^^ ive done it with the ones i havent completed it on according to that message, but it doesnt count it for some reason

and i cant figure out why

[wet terrace]

Try another character out of all characters you have it thought completed

[fallen ridge]

u probably already done this but: try leave map, cloudsave/ switch char, than get back on the one u are trying to complete it and renter map

[fallen crescent]

no yeah it worked now

i had to cloud save AGAIN for some reason

thanks anyway guys :D

[pine citrus]

Do y’all know how to get a good level on frost fire fright, I keep losing so quickly on worship

[fallen crescent]

do i get this one (save up for it) or do i just buy two others that i can get right away

[fallen crescent]

theres a spreadsheet some people have with guides on how to reach wave 50 quite easily, theres a tutorial on youtube for it aswell- try looking up said tutorial on youtube

and make sure your boulder and ice towers adequately leveled

[queen violet]

give me a sec ill show you the line up i use

[pine citrus]

k thank you

[queen violet]

frost, Boulder, Boulder, Elder
lightning party

[pine citrus]

Any thing besides elder? It’s still constructing

[queen violet]

Ehh wait fgor elder then

[pine citrus]

k

bye guys, thank you

[queen violet]

Its going to carry you. Also tighten up on the frost tower i did it a little far

[fallen crescent]

you mainly wanna use boulders with the A upgrade (further range) and a bunch of party starts to make everything proc faster. put one ice man as shown above a little further away so that when the stun enemies come

use kraken if necessary, but should be possible without

[queen violet]

@pine citrus fuck i said elder its kraken

I get the namnes mixed up. I keep thinking elder god is the name of kraken

[fallen ridge]

wait till elder then try all of them again u should be able to achieve higher waves

[fallen crescent]

this is a pain in the ass

[queen violet]

Whats your construction values

[fallen ridge]

unless u have boulder at level 30+ for some reason then lv 1 elder might not be better YET

[fallen crescent]

he probabbly needs to reach a decent wave to get souls for various crafting recipes tho, theres no reason to wait if therye still early w3

[fallen crescent]

once elder reaches lvl 20 it will be better than boulder

[fallen crescent]

not that high

[fallen ridge]

he said he is constructing it

[queen violet]

Does elder get good?

[fallen crescent]

i know that, but before he gets elder to lvl 20 he could be in late w5 by then, yk?

[queen violet]

I was focusing on the stuff i know that works

Like kraken lightning and boulder

[fallen crescent]

its incredible once you know how to properly use it, at high levels its insane, especially mixed with the equinox upgrade

[queen violet]

oh yeh i forgot these existed lol

[fallen crescent]

but eitherway, you wanna keep using boulder until elder reaches around level 20 within construction

[fallen ridge]

even level 5 it's gonna help, especially in "later" waves

[sudden coral]

when can i use atoms to upgarde alchemy

[fallen crescent]

thats true, but considering hes mid w3, elder is going to be way too expensive to be able to use freely, boulder is definitely a better choice

[queen violet]

Today i learned you can sample equinox RSS i thought you wouldnt be able to seeing as you cant afk there

[fallen crescent]

you can reach wave 50 on w1/w3 td's easily by just using boulders

[fallen ridge]

is it possibile to green stack them (I mean in very long term) I just need to not care about them?

[sudden coral]

awh that's annoying

[queen violet]

Dont they let you start from your highest wins?

Or am i miss understanding hwo tehy work

[queen violet]

Get your mining up. Copper is one of the easiest resources to print Atoms with

[fallen ridge]

yes, but that's an item => put them in chest to green stack and gain little damage

[fallen crescent]

id say oak is a lot easier, but both should be very easy to do yes

[queen violet]

Oh i thought you ment use them exclusively as greenstack fodder lol. and that you didnt care about the item itself

[queen violet]

Bravery gives Mining eff

[fallen crescent]

any first material is easily gotten to 1050m in storage

[fallen crescent]

thats true but its additive, so its not gonna be a huge boost, even with 2k% its not THAT good

every bit helps tho

[queen violet]

That might be true late game but he has to question about atoms meaning hes bout as far in as i am. (little behind) Wich is basicly that bravery is the biggest source of Mining Eff

[fallen crescent]

thats true thats true, i suppose youre right

[fallen ridge]

but if u are not into atoms u can't really upgrade alchemy with them

or at least not useful stuff that u can't farm "normally"

[queen violet]

Also the face when you stop paying attention and Iron Bars become a bottle neck

[fallen crescent]

true, its a long way ahead, first youd have to get bubbles to that 100m range (but its wise to only use atoms once they reach 1000m depending on the material) its smarter to use atoms for other things before even thinking about using them for alchemy

[queen violet]

also true but

[fallen ridge]

u probably farm more potty rolls than oak/copper to reach that atom amount

[queen violet]

Wait

im so confused

It was bugged i think? Cuz now its showing this as my current after using up the discount tag

[fallen ridge]

class discount?

[short hill]

niiiiice got my chef rings for my BB whenever i get him upgraded.

[queen violet]

Huh? This is a think? Cuz yeh i just noticed its cheaper on my Bubo is there a mechanic i never noticed existed?

[fallen ridge]

yup because bubble 15 gives discount, which is amplified by 17th and both of them get multiplied by 2nd for the respective class (ex: orange=warrior)

[queen violet]

right fuck i forgot that 15 was the discount ones

[fallen crescent]

sadly vman doesnt discount yellow

[fallen ridge]

I know but that's the exception

[queen violet]

What level did you say elder had to be before it started existing?

[fallen crescent]

around 20 ish, its still helpful below that, but boulder still outshines it

[fallen crescent]

preferably above 20 tho

[empty merlin]

Hi! Dumb question, but how do you speak to other players? Doing the “The boomer ain’t so bad” quest 🤮

[white path]

press enter

[pallid kernel]

I completely forgot that the name of the tower is poisonic elder lmao. I’m used to just hearing poisonic or poison

[pure helm]

It only works in map chat not guild chat btw.

[floral crest]

Oh I thought someone was getting dissed lol

[slim mantle]

Its a massive gain honestly

[indigo stratus]

[thorn mango]

Hi emmie

[slim mantle]

pre hole I had 11Q I think and the only other thing besides hole that improved this is like 1% efficiency gain on a bubble, didn't touch anything else

[indigo stratus]

Sup

[astral lava]

Hole made ores the best at atom sampling, surpassing logs

[slim mantle]

by a long shot even (for now)

I resampled before justice release (so I gained a lot of efficiency since then) and my best oak sample is 60B, best copper sample 97B. prior to hole oak was still best :p

[zenith hare]

for now

[white path]

its multiplicative?

[zenith hare]

hole has (coded) bonuses for every type of resource

[astral lava]

[zenith hare]

give ores will be easiest to get bonuses for for a long time

[white estuary]

How to use

The 3d printer

[white path]

u get a star talent from ice cream npc that lets u "sample" stuff, u use the samples to print

[astral lava]

It samples a part of your gains in afk gains

[slim mantle]

Additive with star signs, void ore vial and cards but I mean.. thats close enough to multiplicative

[astral lava]

(different story if it's a mob mat)

[slim mantle]

Remember ruby troll card is/was huge and its 60%, my bravery is over 5k%

[white path]

someone earlier said it was additive and even a 2000% boost wouldn't be that much so I asked

[slim mantle]

Ye additive to a pretty small existing group so it ends up being close to multiplicative and it goes much higher than 2000% clearly 🙂

[mint rivet]

hi gadies and lentlemen

[slim mantle]

👋

[mint rivet]

👋🏿

[slim mantle]

Can't wait for the next caverns update xd will have to start leveling engineer up tho

[mint rivet]

what's the lvl of engineer u maxed upgrades available?

[slim mantle]

It was 17 but one upgrade got moved to 18 so I assume u have to go to 18

[mint rivet]

damn

[slim mantle]

8th bucket iirc

[mint rivet]

my engi is lvl 15

[still oxide]

So how does this one work exactly?

[mint rivet]

as it says

[white path]

increased build rate for the trimmed ones

[still oxide]

Where is the trimmed slot thing

[slim mantle]

Endless summoning says hi (lets u upgrade this further)

[mint rivet]

yay amazing!!!

[still oxide]

Oh Sau Stark

[fallen crescent]

im working on my explorer rn, 2.1m exp

[white path]

2 from lab 1 from atom collider (u already have the one from atom collider)

[slim mantle]

Mine is lvl 12 atm almost 13. Something in the 4 mil xp/h

[fallen crescent]

mines on 11 rn

[mint rivet]

its tough out here

[fallen crescent]

just needa get more opals somehow

[mint rivet]

so close yet so far

[slim mantle]

Gem shop? I should save up to buy that out too

[still oxide]

I was confused on what i was looking for i forgot that upgrade because I grabbed it wt start on w3

[mint rivet]

conjurer pts>gemshop opals

[slim mantle]

Obv

[pulsar spade]

I have made it to W4 now, what gears should I be using ^^

[mint rivet]

oh lucky lad from last time buboing

[fallen crescent]

i think im on 9/12? i could most definitely do more motherlode and hive, could also do more on the den i think, but that really depends on my dmg

[mint rivet]

first time i get lucky lad on bubo

[slim mantle]

It goes to 20. I have 4 xd

[white path]

amarok armor+w4 stones

[slim mantle]

Den is hard. Think I got a total of 6 there

[fallen crescent]

oh.... nvm i just checked, im also on 4/20

i got 9 out of the den

[pulsar spade]

Thanks

[fallen crescent]

could probably get more out of justice, i only got 3 there,

[mint rivet]

6 opals?

[slim mantle]

Gues I remember wrong then. Den scales hard tho for opal gain

[fallen crescent]

motherlode and hive it is i suppose, i eff and prowess is incredibly low then

only bave 15 and 13 on each

[slim mantle]

Iirc my den got 600k something score. Needs over a mil for next opal

[mint rivet]

https://tenor.com/view/exploding-car-explode-cat-boom-bah-gif-5387928273689188008

[fallen crescent]

my next one needs 243k score, poop

[balmy pagoda]

If i got to W4 should i try to rush the guy that gives T3 classes?

[slim mantle]

Gotta make the assessment of time vs reward here. I upped mine a bit recently aswell to like 20, then too slow again so waiting on more efficiency again xd

[balmy pagoda]

If i upgrade my barbarian to blood barbarian is he somehow worse for fishing? or do i keep him as fishing guy

[fallen crescent]

yeaaah hive is going incredibly slow now, same for mining- i really need more prowess and eff, not sure how i can increase these things even more though (reaching the end of w6 will probbaly open more roads tho)

[mint rivet]

u keep

[balmy pagoda]

Thanks

[mint rivet]

i think prowess caps early on

like at 2.0 or so

np

[white estuary]

How i place traps

[slim mantle]

Ur probably capped on prowess already. Getting efficiency is the way. For example golden peanuts

[astral lava]

Either use trapping drone or go to the place where the critters are

[slim mantle]

Go to the spot with the desired critter, use the button that appears

[white estuary]

Desired critter?

[mint rivet]

what does the first task want from me

[astral lava]

What critter do you need to trap?

[slim mantle]

There are multiple critters, not just 1

[fallen crescent]

could probably try to craft the 110k

[white estuary]

I just need to place a trap for the icecream quest

[mint rivet]

oh this nvm

[astral lava]

I think it wants 7 digits ig

[slim mantle]

Double it so u can also carry

[fallen crescent]

true true, will do that soon

ugh i dont wanna get golden bars

[slim mantle]

Thats easy af now with hole

[astral lava]

Go to the slime map in w1

[white estuary]

Oo

How to unlock blood barbarian

[zenith hare]

get the barbarians elite class

each sub class only has 1 option for their elite choice btw

[mint rivet]

started xx:46:00

[fallen crescent]

i knowoowwwwww, but im just so lazy

i only have 700k bars and i need at least 2.2m

nvm i forgot i needed 50 per peanut

im slowly getting there

[mint rivet]

nice sov fury

[slim mantle]

1x 2 min claim be like: you ordered? I delivered

[fallen crescent]

actually took me less long than the tundra ones somehow

[mint rivet]

i've been on the sov grind for 1 month+

sov fury only

[fallen crescent]

hopefully the edge ones wont take me too long

[still oxide]

Are you trying to GS your eggs?

[fallen crescent]

idek if i have enough hotdogs

[mint rivet]

not yet

[still oxide]

How do I know when I hit a mega crit

[fallen crescent]

you dont, just check the constellation once in a while and youll see

as long as your crit chance is above 100% youll have a chance to hit one

[still oxide]

Is it visually different than the yellow and the purp

[fallen crescent]

no

theyre supposed to be green iirc, but the purple color overrides the green, so you just dont know

really wish there was a faster crafting system, like a craft in bulk type thing... crafting a million peanuts is so butt

[still oxide]

The only easier way is to have to mats in your inventory. It's faster than the from chest

[pure helm]

You need to craft from inventory not storage, and alt tab out so you dont need to hold for 20 min.

[slim mantle]

Crystal farm xd

[balmy pagoda]

Which T2 character should be doing breeding?

[fallen crescent]

i know that but it still takes ages

[short hill]

OK, these worms suck. the spawn rate is dumb slow.

[fallen crescent]

i forgot i had them filtered last time i did that, so i only have 4m

[slim mantle]

It doesn't matter who u breed with, just that u have the bm talents leveled on its active preset, the buffs are account wide

[slim mantle]

Hey thats... 20k golden peanuts iirc

[fallen crescent]

😨

[balmy pagoda]

Ye but is there a character that should be getting exp from it? BM = beastmaster? So i guess on hunter?

[slim mantle]

Breeding is an account wide skill. All of ur chars get the xp

And yes, bm is beastmaster

[balmy pagoda]

Ahh, thank you:)

[slim mantle]

W5 gaming and sailing, w6 summoning and farming are also account wide skills

[fallen crescent]

its now .15 remind me in an hour to check how many power statues i got

[slim mantle]

playing on steam? can just use the built in timer

[dapper briar]

@stark estuary re: #bug-reports-🐛 message
You need to remove all on-hit attacks (energy bolt) and active use skills (concoction) from your bars completely. Bubo should only utilize 5 skills max on the bar (CC-Raise Dead-Aura-Fart-optional: Canister). Any additional skills can cause your character to get "skill locked" if there aren't enemies on the screen the use the skill on when it can/should use raise dead.

[leaden isle]

Can someone explain the refinery to me like im stupid, thanks! 😄

[slim mantle]

check the pins

[zenith hare]

tbh the pins is the easiest way to understand the refinery (and why)

[fallen crescent]

i got about 7.3k in an hour, couldve been better

only 300k hotdogs

[slim mantle]

[fallen crescent]

what the heck

can u give me some

[slim mantle]

doesn't work :p but I still need to gstack golden peanuts some time :p

[void arrow]

hey all, have been trying to make progress unlocking w3 spice territories but no matter what comp i use, stray flock doesn't feel like it is possible to beat? should i unlock slot 5 before trying to push through w3 territories?

[slim mantle]

certainly doesn't hurt to unlock more slots

[fallen crescent]

when i go afk tonight, do i just put my dk on carrots and let him get carrots overnight, or is there a more efficient way to get hotdogs

[pure helm]

Beans your getting the drop from crystals anyway whats why you used DK.

If it was a normal mob drop you were farming you use ES.

[fallen crescent]

i know that, im activing there rn, but for when im not able to active anymore i mean, yk

[pure helm]

I mean you can for AFK stuff.

You not going to get much hotdogs thu.

[fallen crescent]

every little bit helps

[hoary pebble]

Isn't the Orb's printer output boost supposed to be shown in the 3d printer menu? My talent is apparently contributing 5% to it but the multiplier is at 1.00x. Shouldn't it be at 1.05x?

[slim mantle]

u don't farm this kind of thing when afk, would rather park myself in the hole at night

[topaz plank]

any way to cheese some more frigid souls? i'm only getting 44 per run (60 with food)
feals like i'm doing somthing wrong
edit : wave 23

[calm vault]

you guys think Im good to start leveling sigils now

forgot to post bubbles lol

[fallen crescent]

you should unlock all bubbles before working on sigils

[pure helm]

Get a higher wave, there is a low lvl W3 set up in the pins here its near the bottom thu. Use a hunter for the kick and root.

There is ways to boost soul gain but most of them are latter. The Vman one is pretty massive.

[indigo stratus]

if i have like 134 afk gain rate

does taht actually work?

[visual cipher]

In order to "update" my printer for the same samples , can i just rescan and the amount will be uptodate?

[pure helm]

That only updates your sample (if its bigger) you need to swap to the new one manually.

[visual cipher]

kk , i didnt really want to get the fishes again -_-

[pure helm]

Yes, I mean active is pretty much always better but you our AFK gains will go up.

[pure helm]

Fish are far less painful once you have 4 sample slots.

[slim mantle]

I feel like some miscommunication happened here so just made this to clear it up (nvm me if this was understood)
u can resample, if it's better it overwrites the old sample and you just have to do this to actually print the new value

[mild needle]

Took to long lol

[waxen copper]

How do I go about 100b gmush kills (equinox 26)?

[still oxide]

Is it good my printer is out pacing my collider?

I have the threshold at 100m

[waxen copper]

Don't threshold

It'll auto cap at 1050m

[still oxide]

?

[pure helm]

You normally want to set it to 1050 and turn it off.

[waxen copper]

For some reason every spot in your chest is capped at 1050m, it's like lava didn't want obscene numbers or something

[fallen crescent]

im personally waiting for that one, i dont see any rush in that as its gonna take a massive amount of time, and other things will always have priority

[still oxide]

Why wouldn't I want a consistent supply of atoms....

[pure helm]

Phone overflow issue. Stacks above that would crash your game. so atoms were the workaround.

[waxen copper]

You'll get it anyways... It'll just take a little longer

Plus bubbles are quite demanding

[pure helm]

You need stacks of 1000M too.

[waxen copper]

I have a lot of people at bravery rn so idk. I could work towards all lvl 500, 100b gmush, or just keep pushing, all while active cc for alchemy while waiting on that last chem plant

[still oxide]

I know but right now I don't so I have it set low. I'm just now getting to needing 100m stack

[waxen copper]

Better sooner than later amirite

[still oxide]

Stamps are getting expensive too

[fallen crescent]

im taking it slow on equinox, theres no rush in that tbh, lvl 500 on every character will happen by itself eventually so theres no reason to PUSH for that, afking at hole will mostly be the best choice for now

100b gmush is definitely something thatll happen in the long run tho, dont stress ab it too much

[still oxide]

Thats what my thought process

[deep wigeon]

ayy finally

[mild needle]

I only did this for divinity LOL

the hole 30% more exp

[deep wigeon]

the free talent lvls arent bad either

[mild needle]

Yeah but all my characters are grinding divinity meastro is the only one really out and he grinding exp for voidman

[deep wigeon]

i left 4 in lab 3 divinity and 1 in hole while im gone for a week

[mild needle]

yeah that would do it. i got full void armor for my main pusher and it increased acc by .6k and damage by a milllion

[deep wigeon]

nice, how much dmg he do now? my es got to 10mil right b4 i got to w5

[rapid silo]

What's the best area for W1 dna

[mild needle]

with an ability a keen 54m

[deep wigeon]

what it say in profile?

[mild needle]

2.2 to 4.7 and with crit 16m all bas attacks

[deep wigeon]

nice

[mild needle]

grind for chiz armor

[deep wigeon]

ye 1 of my ES abilities 1 shot the W4 boss🥲

[mild needle]

ONE SHOT god damn i had to do 3 hits with my base weapon but he did heal

[deep wigeon]

ye this thing, and when base dmg is 4-10mil that make bosses go boom boom

[mild needle]

I used it for the first time when i got my ele sorc and hits HARD

[deep wigeon]

this thing my fav ability on it tho

1shot entire map

[mild needle]

I wish i had done mage first instead of warrior thats insane

[deep wigeon]

• this thing the more mobs u kill, the more u get

[mild needle]

Mage Gonna have a field day mining logs

[deep wigeon]

sheesh, atleast he got a buffet

[mild needle]

my ele sorc is lvl 117 so ima lvl it first

[deep wigeon]

mine was 101 when i forces him to push trough W4, now he lvl 162 lol

[mild needle]

Bro needs better armor

[deep wigeon]

damn, u got a lab ring

[raven mist]

where do you get twisty leaves?

[mild needle]

Yea but you dont need it because the SECOND FUCKING DIVINITY is constantly in lab

[fallen crescent]

w2 crystals/trees

[deep wigeon]

its nice for lvling em up

[mild needle]

from the wiki

[deep wigeon]

yes, but wont lvl em up, just keeps boosters active

you still want lvl 75 for chip slots and stuff

[mild needle]

Bruh my damage went down with dem armor

[deep wigeon]

prob cuz upg thingies

[pure helm]

Armour dosnt start giving damage until latter.

You can pretty much ignore it until you get the salts for troll.

[mild needle]

Nah its dem armor its fine though defence and acc went up which is what they are lackign

LETS GO SO MUCH EXP

[floral crest]

Kill a few of them without dying it's worth it

[deep wigeon]

xp and no kills👀

[floral crest]

mainly with ES as he's fast to push there into w6

[deep wigeon]

what benefits do W6 give?

[mild needle]

Added my abilities and boom

[floral crest]

well farming gives you damage if you buy the "new crop=damage" from sneaking

[raven mist]

is there one of those idle games in w3? Like the owl in w1

[floral crest]

also summoning and sneaking gives buffs if you're doing them

Nope

only w1-w2

[raven mist]

aw

they give good bonuses

[deep wigeon]

i was gonna do divinity for lab buff first, that a bad idea?

[floral crest]

ye u can do that. Like all in div for arctis immediately so you got em all with arctis god

except one outside of divinity if you wanna push

[deep wigeon]

whatt buffs he give?

[floral crest]

Arctis gives bonus levels on all your talents + you can be outside lab and still be connected to lab

[deep wigeon]

well gone for like 5 days so left 4=lab 3=divinity 1=hole

[deep wigeon]

dident goat use to be lab one?

[floral crest]

goat gives lab xp and divinity xp not that one

if you're inside lab

[deep wigeon]

ahh ok, so its the second god u unlock thats the good one niceee

[floral crest]

ye

[deep wigeon]

will get him in 5 days then prob

[floral crest]

All gods are gud and practically situational until it isnt cuz of Doot pet

[mild needle]

The first is good to

[tribal sparrow]

Man farming w3 statue horrendously slow.

[deep wigeon]

ye got him on all chars

[mild needle]

This is how im lvling my ele sorc

[deep wigeon]

remove accuracy buff for more dmg if u sont need it

[mild needle]

your right

[wide lark]

When do I know its a good time to spend it or just always wait until my tate thing is ready?

[deep wigeon]

what do mr doot do?

[floral crest]

gives all god bonuses

I think not purrnep tho

[deep wigeon]

like all of active at same time?

[floral crest]

ye

[mild needle]

Doot is the best but is SUPER rare too get

[floral crest]

I'd usually just take my chances and use 1 ladle to get it to a percentage again to get a new recipe

[deep wigeon]

sounds nice, vry useless for me atm tho when all i got is snake god

need slug pet too

[wide lark]

Soo Stalling 3 weeks would not be worth it ?

[white path]

ALL gods even ones u haven't unlocked

[floral crest]

ye

[wide lark]

probably alot more seeing how Tasting takes half of it

[mild needle]

You have NO slug

[visual zinc]

[wide lark]

Pray for me :3

POG

[floral crest]

ye ez

[mild needle]

https://tenor.com/view/thumbs-up-double-thumbs-up-like-agreed-yup-gif-14284264219182206721

[deep wigeon]

ok gotta start praying for doot then i guess

[deep wigeon]

i dont think u should be eating saws

[mild needle]

EH it might be okay

[candid scarab]

🚫 zahno, that command is disabled in this channel.

[versed ledge]

How long do I leave all my characters in the lab until I get elite?

[cold wraith]

keep all but one (or two if skilling on maestro) in lab

then cycle until all are elite

then push to w5 to start div

[atomic widget]

Is it worth it to craft this armour class set?

[fossil hatch]

No

[pure helm]

Gear has 3 checks, does it give damage does it give skilling power is it cheap. ... so no but they do look cool I made one a hat.

You can slab them once they are a breeze to craft.

[fossil hatch]

Can do it later for +1 slab

[fossil hatch]

Real

[pure helm]

Void appeared and beat me to the punch.

[gusty goblet]

are these good armor and stats for my bb?

[atomic widget]

You're right, I'm finding something good for a long run, I could turn those to premium hat though

[gusty goblet]

hello?

[gusty goblet]

is that FKN saw dust.

[solar lagoon]

lf more for w4 dance party achievement, server cookie 3 come join us

[broken moat]

omg why is shiny chance soooo small? like 1 in 500

[pure helm]

Ya that alright. Effaunt is normally not recommended due to cost but since you crafted it you can roll with it. You could recraft amarock with w6 stones until you have the salt for troll.

[pure helm]

Heh yes.

[cold wraith]

or go naked

i had one set of half chiz half dem

[pure helm]

About the same result tbh.

[cold wraith]

and everyone else had to suffer

i FORCED them to like it

i also got my first 100m print

[pure helm]

With hole bonus no doubt.

[cold wraith]

yea

[pure helm]

Na, gj gj.

[cold wraith]

going over 300% multi drop for skills is kinda wild

[visual cipher]

How long does it takes roughly to get the 20k statues for the monolith?

[cold wraith]

depends on your crystal chance and dr

with like 8-10x dr and 1/70 crystal chance maybe around 2 days

[solar lagoon]

lf more for w4 dance party achievement, server cookie 3 come join us we are on the table, come get that sweet sweet ball rate

[distant sonnet]

Does standing in the breeding area work like the cooking area that you can gain xp and eggs just by going AFK and claiming gains?

[gusty goblet]

ohhh ok

[pure helm]

You will see a change in the char select screen. It will say "cooking" if you are cooking it wil say "nothing" if you are by the fenceyard.

[cold wraith]

to speed up breeding you active play with beast master.. but that is later game

[pure helm]

Need the Vman talent to do that.

[cold wraith]

well you wont be ready to active bm even after getting vman enhance

[distant sonnet]

Whats the definition of "later game" then? My beastmaster is about lvl 430 and breeding is lvl 55

I really don't get this whole pet breeding and cooking lol

[cold wraith]

shows you in autoreview

[pure helm]

You also want a ton of mob respawn for active BM to be worth the time. You could jsut start whenever once you have the Vman skill but there are probably better class'/things to active on.

[pure helm]

Huh that wasnt there last I looked at auto review.

[distant sonnet]

Yeah I'm trying to level my Vman a ton for the Nightmare Kattlekruk achievement to unlock the recipe lol

[cold wraith]

well its there now

[distant sonnet]

Is that a website or something?

[cold wraith]

!review

[candid scarab]

https://ieautoreview-scoli.pythonanywhere.com/ - Unofficial 3rd party site made by Scoli
If you need help, please use https://discord.com/channels/437797104786604034/1174753262365315203

[cold wraith]

you get your json code through either IE or IT

[floral crest]

Today I learnt this existed while tryin to get slab stuff

[sleek pollen]

who didn't skip efaunt stuff tbh

[floral crest]

ye it was so ass

[slim mantle]

And going for slab stuff can be rather time consuming too xd

[floral crest]

Already feels like that. Imma get to samurai guardians before I do this shit fuck it

[slim mantle]

Wait till u have to get w3 trophy for slab xd that one is a pain

[floral crest]

curse you evergreen

[slim mantle]

Yup

[slim mantle]

Even if u set a timer u have to be careful about desync

[floral crest]

yeah that's corny

I dont even setup alarms ever

I just pray I wake up early

[slim mantle]

I would say seems risky but as a kid I did always wake up at 7 am exactly without alarm

Can't do that anymore tho

[wispy marsh]

i h8 evergreen getting him done for slab was such a relief

[floral crest]

Damn

[slim mantle]

Ask me how I know... xd on the worst one of his quests even

[tall jay]

Is there a way to level alchemy quick im only on world 3 and need it for the maestro quest

[finite spear]

Use exp ballon

[spare terrace]

Is Mr Johnson's pottery class bugged on mobile? Once I get it down to about 75% health it crashes every time

[paper crescent]

in construction making cogs & be in grid (idk how name in) give same xp/hr?

[sudden coral]

is the gladiator trophy any good?

[spare terrace]

Yes

[sudden coral]

if im just crystal farming for drop rate is it better to use lucky lad or gladiator tho

[spare terrace]

Gladiator on gives damage multi so lucky lad

Unless damage is a problem

[sudden coral]

okay thanks, is w4 collo still the best one to farm btw

[broken moat]

How rare is this

[spare terrace]

I'm not sure, I was asking about best egg farm yesterday and someone farming the w4 colo was a waste of tickets so I guess it changed

[sudden coral]

it tells u when u open ur stats

[sleek pollen]

below class exp

[sudden coral]

there's a better egg farm than w4 collo?

[broken moat]

Also got this today finally

I noticed giant mobs always drop gems

[spare terrace]

He kept telling me to get the mushroom but I had already done it so he said don't do Colo

[sleek pollen]

yep gems + candy

[olive zenith]

Ya'll, I feel like I've worked so hard to make VMAN good but his damage is SO FUCKING ASS making the speedrun really bad, how do I improve him?

[broken moat]

So that means i can farm 400 gems from giant mobs alone?

Per week

[sleek pollen]

you don't really want to spend ticket on w4 colo, better save it for later colo so only other eggs farm is your weekly 2 mush kills

[sleek pollen]

proly yeah if you can get a lot of giant spawn

or do w4 quest, they should all give eggs and ladle

[spare terrace]

I need eggs bad at the moment, I've pushed real far into pet battles so I need pets to farm spices

[sudden coral]

cuz i have about 300 tickets saved up and w6 only gives golden food thats good right

[sleek pollen]

just wait, don't farm with colo

[spare terrace]

Alright

[sudden coral]

well what's the benefit of saving tickets for w6 collo

[livid vine]

i woke up at 3am this morning to catch the 9 hours 33 mins quest Q_Q, woke up my not too happy husband as well

[sleek pollen]

lmao

[livid vine]

i'm holding off the 21 hours quest , it's too crazy Q_Q

waiting for weekend to attempt that

[slim mantle]

It's by far the best one for colo gold food (as some can only be farmed in any meaningful quantity from colo) except for gold bread, then it's w5 colo. U want to save ur colo tickets till u have high dr for those as u need to get 110k of them for ur beanstack + extras for using on characters. This is far far far more important than anything else ppl use colo tickets for, colo tickets are a scarce commodity

[sudden coral]

how much dr should i aim to get to start farming w6, i just finished my first w6 collo run and got 166m score

[slim mantle]

As much as possible, I didn't get to finish my beanstalk stacks until I was over 40 dr. Also u want to reach a higher score than that

[sudden coral]

40x.00dr?

[slim mantle]

Yes

[sudden coral]

how, i've never seen someone with over 13

[slim mantle]

Endgamers are over 50 even

[sudden coral]

but how do u get so much extra dr there's not many big boosts

[slim mantle]

There are way too many dr sources to name them all

Many small ones still add up to a big amount. 13 is nothing xd

[sudden coral]

i'll try checking the list again but it looked like miniscule amounts

[sleek pollen]

me happy that I got a bit more than 10dr

[sudden coral]

can i ask what pet combo did u use to beat

[slim mantle]

Rattler looter monolith refiller defender refiller

[slim mantle]

But ur power and breeding level.. got peapod yet?

[slim mantle]

Peapod is in w4

[sudden coral]

oh, i only have the first one in w4

[sleek pollen]

still using fighter pet on spice territories?

[sudden coral]

yeah i don't have enough power and i don't know the really good combo

[sleek pollen]

dont you have the axe upgrade?

[sudden coral]

i do but im getting fence slots first

[sleek pollen]

level that up

[slim mantle]

U have enough power. At this power level I did the final territory... xd

[sleek pollen]

ohh ok

[sudden coral]

really? with the pets u told me /

[sudden coral]

oh wait is it the same one dadoums sent?

[slim mantle]

Fighting I used that setup until last territory, then I unlocked peapod and used a different team

[sleek pollen]

tho zoro did pin good setup for spice claim

[sudden coral]

oh i see it but does it matter what pet has that power

[floral crest]

That sucks to wake up at 3am but that's usually my wake up time hope he calmed down tho

[slim mantle]

Rattler is ur damager and looter a bit. Rest doesn't rlly matter

[sudden coral]

is the first combo the best layout for all spices,

[slim mantle]

Read his texts. Its just highest speed, not best for any

[sudden coral]

ah but in what context is speed any use

[livid vine]

yea we did a raid in another game until 1am then woke up at 3am Q_Q

[slim mantle]

Getting 1 spice for cooking

[sudden coral]

is rattler sand pot?

[sudden coral]

ah gotcha thanks

[half portal]

What's the play for farming 6000 w4 keys...? ES?

[sleek pollen]

no

[slim mantle]

Sand giant

[sleek pollen]

moonmoon wtf im drunk

[sudden coral]

thanks, sorry im asking a lot of questions but does it matter what pet has the superpower like how squirrel has forager and so does mafioso

[sleek pollen]

both the team occido said and the image I sent are the same

[sleek pollen]

basically just skin

[chilly oasis]

Is there any tool like IE or something that can scan my placed and obtained cogs, and generate an optimal placement for them? There's too many for me to care to minmax manually

[sleek pollen]

but if you want like multiple forager on your battle team you'll have to have squirrel AND mafioso, can't have two of the same pet

[sudden coral]

good to know! never dug that deep into it just clicked a button and went through it haha

[sleek pollen]

thats why refiller you need stick and goblin

[slim mantle]

Its just 2x dk on board, directionals aiming xp at them, rest highest xp %. Nothing else to it

[sudden coral]

btw i never understood what affected pet power either

[sleek pollen]

IT has it I reckon, I used it a few times early on but too lazy to do it now

[slim mantle]

Breeding level, bm talent and egg rarity, thats it

[sudden coral]

thanks

on the pinned messages he has 3 of the same one how is that possible

[sleek pollen]

you can have the same pet for a spice territory

its only on the battle territories and the arena that there is a pet restriction where you cant have the same pet twice but can have another pet of the same type (like squirrel and mafioso)

[chilly oasis]

You make it sound so much simpler than it feels XD

[sudden coral]

aah okay thanks

[chilly oasis]

Thanks for the heads up. I just tried it out and it seems to only re-arrange already placed cogs, not using any cogs in my inventory. And only swaps out 4 slots, and I doubt my intuition was that accurate to require so few changes XD

[sleek pollen]

ohhh yeah it doesn't use cogs from the inventory

[sudden coral]

i tried the pet foraging layout from pins but it halves the foraging speed for some reason

makes it super low

[void otter]

i don't understand the "lava skulls" rift

[slim mantle]

Thats normal and it will give u more spice

[sudden coral]

how does the maths work in that is it hidden multi?

[slim mantle]

Tldr kill shit but not everything at once

[slim mantle]

Read those genes their abilities

[sleek pollen]

more chance to get more spice when claiming

[void otter]

oh

[sudden coral]

ah okay so u have a chance to get double but why not go for high speed and then just converter?

[slim mantle]

Cost per cycle scales

And first ones are cheap

[sudden coral]

thanks

[versed ledge]

!merit w4

[sleek pollen]

!merit4

[slim mantle]

!merit4

[candid scarab]

1️⃣ Buy one point of spice spillage. This gives you up to a 20% chance to claim all your spices when claiming over an hour of afk gains. Since spices generate more slowly the more you have produced since last claim this will improve spice production.
2️⃣ Having more bubbles get upgraded each day will help a lot, especially when combined with buffs giving more levels per bubble. Only buy this if you can reach the No Bubble Left Behind node in the lab.
3️⃣ Egg capacity is limited and every time the hatchery fills up eggs are wasted until you unlock the rarity upgrade. Also helps you get two achievements with good rewards requiring egg capacity.
4️⃣ Allows you to connect to lab bonuses from slightly farther away which can reduce the number of characters needed in the lab. Note that the max distance between characters, which is called line width, doesn't increase.
5️⃣ Improves kills per hour in W4 but since you likely won't be pushing W4 portals for long this is relatively low priority.
6️⃣ Max level spice spillage triggers every time. They are lower priority since it takes a lot of star talent points and is likely to trigger several times in a row when checking multiple characters.
7️⃣ 3 crystal mobs per day is very little.
Unlocks the recipes for troll armor giving all stat% and the base for all further armor upgrades. It is great but require plenty of Nullo Salt. Don't buy it if you can't craft them.

🚫 occido, you need to wait 5 seconds to use that command again.

[sleek pollen]

[sudden coral]

@slim mantle why does rabbit in this combo work better than having mafioso in for the rabbit

[slim mantle]

Mafioso would boost borger in the territory below. Bunny boosts speed in the same territory

[sudden coral]

oh damn that's crazy

[slim mantle]

The boost to borger is 10x btw, very important

Just copy the set ups for the corresponding territories like in the pins and u will get the most spices

[sudden coral]

yep i just did it all like the pins

u saying this is enough to beat this? @slim mantle

[slim mantle]

Easily. I got way further with way less

[sleek pollen]

same

[waxen copper]

How hard would it be to hit 1b copper sample? (Mine is 31.4m currently, but it's been like 9 or 12 days since my sample),

[sleek pollen]

just time your first shield properly and its ez win

[slim mantle]

Not too hard. U got lots gains to gain still

[sudden coral]

oh so i cant auto it ?

[sleek pollen]

after the first shiled goes through it is auto

[waxen copper]

How do you turn auto on/off midbattle

[slim mantle]

For 1 specific pet? U don't

[sleek pollen]

yeah for one you can't

[waxen copper]

I meant auto for one move

[slim mantle]

U also don't have to time first shield, can rely on rng passive block, just takes some start overs

[waxen copper]

Like "full auto after first shield" how would you auto it.

[slim mantle]

He would just have auto off then turn it on

[sleek pollen]

you can turn off/on the auto mid battle

[waxen copper]

That's what I'm asking how to do

[sleek pollen]

knowing my chance I'm better off timing myself the first shield than the rng

[slim mantle]

I never timed 🙂 not once

[slim mantle]

Its the big button on ur screen... just works for entire team, can't do it for just 1 pet mid battle

[sleek pollen]

battle started for first pic, auto on second pic, auto off third pic

[sudden coral]

the stick keeps dying did u acually do it on full auto?

[slim mantle]

I did full auto with monolith auto turned off (so I used it manually until the setup was running nicely then stopped using it). First pet dieing is no problem, its only needed to kickstart the setup

And start the battle with ur abilities ready

[sudden coral]

so do i use the monolith orrr

when do i stop using it

[slim mantle]

When u have a constant stream of rattler and defender attacks so it keeps said stream up

[sudden coral]

so keep spamming it until then

[slim mantle]

Yes. Reason I don't put it full auto is cuz that would make the fight a hell of a lot longer

[sudden coral]

okay but if stick dies straight away do u restart?

[slim mantle]

Nah it just needs to kickstart the refiller stacks which it does if u start the battle with ready abilities

U restart if defender dies

[sudden coral]

damn this seems really difficult

[floral crest]

Nah not rlly

It's just long

[slim mantle]

Not rlly. Just slow

So go get ur peapod, u can then use a much faster setup

[sudden coral]

is it not better to do as dadoums said and manual the defender cuz i keep insta losing

[floral crest]

Nah it's better for defender auto

[slim mantle]

Doing manual defender is the difficult way. It has iirc 15% passive block so a few retries does the same thing by rng

[floral crest]

World's garbage setup but can guarantee perma shield at 2k drums

[sudden coral]

alright ill just keep trying i guess but pretty much always restart soon as defender dies, or if they're low enough do u keep going

[floral crest]

You should have enough shields once rattler gets going to fill up your screen in mono with shields

[slim mantle]

Defender dead = rest of ur team dead... but are u starting ur fight with abilities ready like I said?

[sudden coral]

i don't know what that means i just put it on auto

[floral crest]

Press mono once shield is at wood stick

[slim mantle]

Turn off auto, start fight, go to upgrade screen when first pet dies. Repeat untill entire team has abilities ready then turn on auto and start for real

[sudden coral]

oh it just went through, defender died at 300m but still managed to win ?

[sleek pollen]

looter does his job sometimes

[sudden coral]

is that like a glitch to start with abilities?

[sleek pollen]

nono when you go to the upgrade tab it saves your abilities bar

[slim mantle]

I gues... works like a charm tho

[sleek pollen]

or maybe it is a bug idk

[floral crest]

or just start with out auto and let them fill up

[sudden coral]

haha that's a useful tip

i guess it's the same thing for every other battle, bit of rng and many attempts

[floral crest]

die at that point and then start at full team

[ashen hornet]

which character would be best for farming gold twine, es or dk?

[slim mantle]

Es

[ashen hornet]

alright thx

[sudden coral]

yeah ure right this is gonna take hours haha what was that peapod build again?

[slim mantle]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1254924120597069945/1266451010537394246/c8XedX0.png?ex=6769a16a&is=67684fea&hm=8aacaa14e31adaff00d0b3a395691434226b564583a0dc3d878a9cdd5dd18451&

Thats what I used for the final territory. 2-3 min fight, full auto but u have to manually spam click enemy attacks. Peapod was the main damage dealer at 40k power

[floral crest]

if U can try this

it takes longer than occido's but it's fairly consistent

[dusty apex]

i did looter, 2x rattlers, defender, 2x refillers for that fight, was going to try peapods after but it worked first go full auto and no need to click anything, also only took like 2-3 mins

only thing is it really only works for that fight cause there is only 1 enemy attacking you instead of 3-4 like normal

[floral crest]

Oh god you made mine better THANK YOU

oh.

[dusty apex]

it *can * work for others, but is not very reliable

@slim mantle also it turns out i forgot all about your request for the pin

[limpid dragon]

is the idleontoolbox DK build reasonable to follow?
just got my dk elite class and planning to push with it

[versed ledge]

Shake shake shake senora

[slim mantle]

Forgetting is human 🙂

[slim mantle]

Elite classes is when u should start thinking for urself: what do I need? Use the knowledge u gained from checking builds before that point

[limpid dragon]

brother this is my 7th day playing, i have not learned much given the amount of stuff in this game lol

hence me asking here

given this is a channel to ask questions

[floral crest]

I'd mostly just get everything that says "damage" for combat preset and anything that is useful for "skilling" in skilling preset

Also keep in mind of accuracy cuz you'll need it

[limpid dragon]

i have been painfully aware of accuracy all this time yea

[west pilot]

got the recipe today

[cold wraith]

ive had the recipe but dont have the mats 💀

[uncut pier]

I have the 2 +25% damage chains, the +50% damage wings, the equinox ring, the 40% damage nametag, and the divine trophy for the 35% damage, is there a +damage premium helmet? trying to get this last boss for the rift where i have to kill it on characters done so trying to give them as much damage as possible lol

[west pilot]

what you need¿

gold chains¿

[cold wraith]

do you have the damage card emperor

[uncut pier]

yep, and the 30% damage multiplier pendant, was mainly just wondering if there was a premium helmet that was +damage% or multiplier

[cold wraith]

kruk cavity and golden stopwatch

i can also upgrade my magma to kruk once i unlock the recipe for the set

[west pilot]

golden stopwatch?

you mean the pickle chain?

[cold wraith]

i have one pickle chain

damn just realized i havent done party dungeons in a month

[sudden forum]

thats trash

[ancient flame]

where do bloodbones spawn?

[limpid dragon]

the idle brawling makes no sense

for an active dk, which is why i asked

[sudden forum]

You would realistically put talents into stuff like KPK and the Fist Of Rage+ Talent in DK

not KPK*

You meant active

[strong sky]

2 maps above staches

[sudden coral]

im at the same one as u now

[floral crest]

yeep u can try that and see if tworks it's kinda the most best dumb strat I have cuz I was too lazy to get peapod+trasher

[sudden coral]

why trasher

[floral crest]

cuz you can click the enemy's attacks to remove it

[sudden coral]

oh damn that's pretty good

is there a build with a trasher somewhere?

[floral crest]

the one occido sent u

[sudden coral]

he didnt send me the one with peapod and trasher

[slim mantle]

I did

[sudden coral]

hm i can't seem to find one with peapod and trasher

[west pilot]

.

[slim mantle]

.

[sudden coral]

yeah but where is the peapod

[west pilot]

💀

[slim mantle]

.... the most left one??

[sudden coral]

the dog?

[slim mantle]

yes...

[sudden coral]

huh , kinda weird name for a dog )

[slim mantle]

it's the name of the gene, trasher isn't the name of the walking steak either

[zenith hare]

murder

[west pilot]

Peapod is the genetic name

[sudden coral]

gotcha

[waxen copper]

What's the loadout for later spice territories again (6 slots)

[hard lynx]

For thermonuclear climb constellation does it have to be 10 hours straight afk claim? or can i can multiple hours to add up to 10 hours

[waxen copper]

Likely straight

So anything at least 10 hours would work. 10, 12, 725

But it has to be in 1 claim

[hard lynx]

thanks!

[knotty solstice]

Where's a good place to level grind a Maestro?

[echo radish]

Most likely the highest map you can

[raven mist]

are active skills factored into afk kills?

[waxen copper]

Typically it's either the latest or second latest map you can access

[waxen copper]

Attacking skills, yes

[knotty solstice]

Highest map I likely can for a maestro that's been doing stuff only God remembers what is the sheepie map, my classes that actually can do things struggle on even purple spores lol

[raven mist]

is there any place i can look for good builds?

[knotty solstice]

And yes, I am aware of automation arm

[echo radish]

But it doesn't matter leveling en up right?

[echo radish]

!it

[candid scarab]

https://idleontoolbox.com/ - Unofficial 3rd party site made by Morojo

[raven mist]

how do you get more presets for skills?

[echo radish]

2 is the max

[dusty apex]

how's that look now?

[raven mist]

that sucks

[knotty solstice]

Blue salts are the main problem I forsee me having with auto arm

[echo radish]

Eh you don't really need more then 2 anyways

[dusty apex]

if it wasnt for star talents, you wouldnt even need 2

[waxen copper]

Kinda wish I had a third sometimes

[raven mist]

i wish i had 3 for afk, active, then skills

[dusty apex]

i can understand that, but it wont take too long before you got talent points rushing in faster then you can use it

and anything you can gain now would probably take you 2mins to get later on, so the loss isnt really as bad as you think

[waxen copper]

I have tabs with 800 points and tabs with starving talents

[raven mist]

yeah

i feel like im doing everything so inefficiently

[waxen copper]

You'll technically always be inefficient

[dusty apex]

happens to the best of us early on

[waxen copper]

Can't worry too hard about it unless you're like, really really badly doing stuff

[echo radish]

Perfection isn't human after all, so we will all always be inefficient

[waxen copper]

Keep an eye on your alchemy, keep your p.o. updated, and keep your salts in rotation

[dusty apex]

which if you are that bad the extra preset aint going to help you

[echo radish]

Well more presets = more ways to be bad

[raven mist]

are there any alchemy bubbles to be focused on

[echo radish]

Early on Shaq and fmj

Aka defence one and accuracy one

[blazing marsh]

Hey I was looking for some help reaching the 1 million printer samples
https://gamerkem.idleonefficiency.com/

[oak badger]

Guys am trying to hot 90 plates in cooking anyone got the ser up chart

[pure helm]

Get to the hole in W5 and start stacking mining eff. Logs used to be the first to 1mill but copper should be faster now with the hole buffs. There is mining and chopping charts in bot commands for a list of things you want when sampling.

Your also going to need some more lvls in bubbles mostly but some stamps and the riceball meal wont hurt.

[spare terrace]

Is there a different set up I should be doing for farming spice cause I can't get the last 2 high enough?

My upgrade for foragers providing combat power is at 8/10

I know im missing the w3 bopbox pet but is that what turns the tide for the spice gathering?

[pure helm]

You will probably need to use some combat pets.

[spare terrace]

It's gonna be a while then cause my highest combat is 45k

And with all combat I don't think I'll have fast enough gather rate sadly

[pure helm]

some is better than none.

[spare terrace]

Yea, I really only care about the spice for the meals right now, I just pushed the last like 8 pet battles today and I'm trying to make sure I can at least get the spice so I can get all the meals. Thanks for the help

[raven mist]

what weapons scales best with journeyman?

[pure helm]

Tsar affects both above and below. So you have more than 4 slots to use and merc can also be useful.

[pure helm]

Hrm? beginners use fist weapons you cant equip other weapons past the first tier.

[raven mist]

so you just use the boxing gloves?

[pure helm]

And there upgrades ya.

[keen dirge]

How else can I get accuracy after maxing out book of the wise (I’m a squire)

[floral crest]

Nice (This is so stupid)

[pure helm]

Owl roo dungeon stamps and the biggest one shaq.

with a few others that too.

[keen dirge]

What are those? I left my characters afk for like half a year so I don’t remember much

[floral crest]

shaquracy and balanced spirit are great

[pure helm]

Owl is a w1 clicker mini game. Roo is a w2 clicker minigame but slower, dungeon is in w1-3 but just run W1, and stamps are in W1 town the pig guy. Shaq is a alchemy bubble in the W2 town (in the green one).

[keen dirge]

Ok Tysm you two

[pure helm]

There is more but they are in latter worlds.

[floral crest]

I'm hoping you had chars on colored cauldrons if you left them for half a year

[west pilot]

I would say balanced spirit is hot garbo

[floral crest]

It’s for while he doesnt have shaq or wis/accuracy cards

[west pilot]

With flurbos, roo, and decent alchemy is more than enough

[floral crest]

You dont max it you jist level it based on how much u need for the map

[west pilot]

No need to nerf your char with that shit talent

[livid vine]

did u receive a reply yet? personally i feel the toolbox can be quite outdated. https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/e/2PACX-1vST3HcgBgeq8H9jztaMhUXZAAAHl120PvDVo_48qJpn6n9qnpa-TWmuG_kN9cmtr66M-OtO482XIOAk/pubhtml#

Example is the ES is asking ppl to max their siphon charge max lvl first, in any case u need to level worship for all characters so u need to avoid using siphon charge skill anyway :/

[pure helm]

Ya the google doc does that too.

[limpid dragon]

I had not received one thank you, I ended up just freehanding it, will give the spreadsheet another look

[livid vine]

oh yea u are right

i think i was glad i checked with the ppl here instead then.

cus now i can equip better skulls on everyone

[pure helm]

Both are fine for the most part but your brain should always be a better option.

[livid vine]

there's also this: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/e/2PACX-1vSCepYAs6sNDP4iq6MJNAG1pvFXzfC_3IQ7ttt5vfEEKAgQhIk4cQqnLRyeH6UyqDSuP4R-6WQeDmmP/pubhtml#

[pure helm]

This is important. I wonder which will be updated first.

[cold wraith]

i can upgrade all my skulls to starfire once i get motivation

[livid vine]

i think it's a vital update for the excel sheet imho

cus u'll need souls for a lot of things including leveling up royal sampler, skilled dimwit, alchemy bubble and equipment/wep and better soul equipment.

[fresh crater]

currently most my progression in w4 is locked by my low smithing level. Is there anything I can do to raise it quickly?

[cold wraith]

upgrade your mat cap as high as you can on your archer

upgrade talent 15 on first page

buy anvil points with coins and mats

spam threads and keep claiming

boom level

[fresh crater]

alright thanks

[west pilot]

Or just do boost foods

[cold wraith]

or that 💀

[fresh crater]

yeah the third tab boost foods worked well for xp thanks again

[random trout]

Do the kill skills for passives work offline? The ones divine knight, elemental, and seige breaker have?

[pure helm]

No the stacking ones only work active.

[random trout]

Ah I figured, time to leave my phone open 😎

[pure helm]

I still never got the SB achievement.

[sleek pollen]

it's a myth

[fallen urchin]

should i get journeyman for my 8th or wait until my 10th character?

[west pilot]

7-8th

10 is way to late

[livid vine]

^this

[vital verge]

can i start farming onyx statues

[night osprey]

When is happy hour

[vital verge]

9.45x drop rate

has choco chip

[pallid kernel]

I did it at like 1 in 80

My dr was like 12 at the time though

[vital verge]

was it 200k power statue?

[pallid kernel]

20k

[vital verge]

is it the same for all statues?

[pallid kernel]

Yep

[vital verge]

fuc

[pallid kernel]

Like 14ish hours

[vital verge]

how much do you think is gonna take to get those 20k?

[pallid kernel]

Shouldn’t be too long

A few hours maybe

[night osprey]

Guys im struggling with trapping I only catch froges

[vital verge]

did you unlock the other areas?

[livid vine]

did u go back to the trapper guy to complete his quest? he will unlock crabs next

[sleek pollen]

Lord of the Hunt quest line to unlock most of the trapping critter

[night osprey]

Can't catch any poison froges

[livid vine]

what trap are u using?

[sleek pollen]

you're putting the traps on the right location to get frogs right? like frog in the jungle area

[pallid kernel]

Forgot how annoying trapping is without drone

[vital verge]

if he didnt got a single poison yet he cant do anything about it tho

[shy ruin]

should i always refine at max capacity or is there an upper limit where i should stop doing that

[pallid kernel]

Red and green, yes

[vital verge]

this image shows an explanation

[pallid kernel]

Beat me to it

[shy ruin]

ty

[tribal sparrow]

Yeah 200k all. 20k each character.

[shy ruin]

if i leave my guild does my achievement progress reset

[cold wraith]

once i get 13m i can start the w3 statue process