midgame-chat-w3🧊w4🔮

[shy ruin]

yeah ik but im on w3 and i need better gear

and i almost have the materials for dementia armor,

[true hamlet]

I just touched w4 yesterday xd

Personally just made an amarok set with w3 stones and managed to kill chizoar relatively quickly

Then I made dementia after I had access to the w4 stones

[half raptor]

Any wizardry anyone can reccomend so i can start collecting this spice?

Nvm guess that works lol

[tender ocean]

seeing you getting 30k pets in the image above, you should really upgrade your burgers for more power if doable

[vital verge]

should i unlock the statue things? think it was 20k sttues for something

im itching to just put them all at the statue guy all at once instaed of doing the special thing

[half raptor]

I do want to, i just almost have my last infinite star sign pet unlocked so need to save my good eggs for unlocking neyeptune

[torpid acorn]

im struggling to push W4 with fully upgraded deuscythe and even a +30% multikill pendant. should i just keep going for damage things in alchemy and stamps or is there something obvious

ik the rings are outdated but im not having issues with defence at all rn just damage

getting around 1k kph

[vital verge]

1M dmg - check

do u have the skull thing from the lab?

[torpid acorn]

havnt done much lab at all. heard it wasnt worth until early W5

should i start grinding some lads xp for it?

[vital verge]

whoever told you that should never give advice again

[torpid acorn]

lol it was griffybit

youtube channel

might be outdated ig

[vital verge]

you should put all your people in the lab

except your maestro jman

[torpid acorn]

kk thx

[vital verge]

and your pusher

you should form a straight line into this node

[torpid acorn]

should i get some lads to grind for chips or jewels?

[vital verge]

i wouldnt worry much about these rn

unless you are trying to push slowly

[torpid acorn]

most of it seems like cooking and breeding but i am missing on dementia for this weeks chip

is there a bubo lab build for talents

[vital verge]

like, most chips have later game cooking/spices that you probably dont have where you are now

and the ones you have something are useless

[solid raptor]

Hi anyone know where the flycicle now?

[torpid acorn]

late W3

[solid raptor]

Not there, its gone

[vital verge]

tf

[astral lava]

It's down

[vital verge]

can u send screenshot?

[torpid acorn]

bottom left of the map

[solid raptor]

Its gone

[astral lava]

How are you playing 4 games at the same time

[solid raptor]

How to send screenshots? Sorry newbie

[torpid acorn]

i get more lab px for higher lvl's right? wondering since i dont think i can reach the skull thing for a bit so i wanna accel my lab

[astral lava]

He can't since he isn't at the required rank yet

[torpid acorn]

they call me john idle

also its not four lol

[shy ruin]

do library checkouts have an upper limit?

[vital verge]

wich i had something that could handle even 1 properly

[torpid acorn]

rip

[torpid acorn]

im pretty sure yeah

[shy ruin]

damn

what's the limit

[torpid acorn]

i never saw it go above 30 but im pretty sure there are buffs that change it

[vital verge]

prob 99

[astral lava]

The time for a new book checkout scales higher and higher everytime you get a book chechout

[astral lava]

I don't think so

[torpid acorn]

it definetly gives dim returns on how fast they are made

[vital verge]

the max i reached was 71 or smth

[torpid acorn]

yeah im probably just wrong then

[astral lava]

And that's a bad thing

[vital verge]

not really

i was gone for 2 months

[astral lava]

no, it's really bad

You are wasting time

[vital verge]

i literally couldnt play

[astral lava]

If that's so then alr

[torpid acorn]

well its better to keep updated but its not like hes bricking his acc

[vital verge]

my achievement atleast is still going up

[torpid acorn]

is best thing for lab accel for me to just leave all the guys in there?

[vital verge]

except maestro and pusher

[torpid acorn]

what should i have maestro do?

[vital verge]

skilling

he should be the best in every skill

every skill from w1-w3 *

[torpid acorn]

ok

[astral lava]

The bad part: even alchemy

[vital verge]

impossible

[astral lava]

My Vman have his Alchemy at 66 and all other skills at 90 and above

[astral lava]

Atleast for skillage dmg

It's hard to lv Alchemy in Vman

[torpid acorn]

how much px per lvl do i get in the early stages? wondering if i should key my maestro to get stuff that benefits lab xp

cuz i would wanna do some extra stuff if its gonna take like a week to get to the node

more than a week*

also if i want to get maestro to be higher skilling does that mean i should revamp my bubo to ignore his chopping?

[astral lava]

Kinda

[slim mantle]

The only time u want a non maestro/vman skilling is when u want it to level up while remaining below maestro/vman

[astral lava]

Or when doing speedruns

99% of Vman's time goes to skilling

[slim mantle]

While that's true, I wasn't talking about what vman is doing but all the others xd

[torpid acorn]

does wis boost lab?

also does this work on lab

[astral lava]

This work

[astral lava]

But Abt wis, I don't think so

Ima search

Nope, wis doesn't boost lab

[torpid acorn]

damn what else am i supposed to spend on my skilling talents then?

[astral lava]

Sry but also this doesn't work with lab

[torpid acorn]

wah

[astral lava]

None

[torpid acorn]

thats so cursed

not even luk?

[zenith hare]

it does

[astral lava]

How does luk affect it?

[zenith hare]

star talents also help

[torpid acorn]

xp gain

[astral lava]

It doesn't, if it does then it should show a general stat on lab page

[zenith hare]

it does.

[astral lava]

Still no

[zenith hare]

equip a wis card, or an all stat

youll see it go up

[torpid acorn]

bruv why the thing say it boosts xp gain if it dont boost xp gain

[astral lava]

Then wiki needs an update on that

[zenith hare]

its class xp

[astral lava]

Cuz:

[torpid acorn]

wait so whats the build for skilling bubo then?

i mean i got like 38 talent resets but i dont really like using them

[zenith hare]

max wis, skill afk gain, and leftover goes to star talents

[torpid acorn]

leftover? star talents use seperate points

oh i see you mean to get star talent points

[astral lava]

And chaotic troll card if you have it

[torpid acorn]

yeah

is there lab food?

[astral lava]

no

[torpid acorn]

weh

[astral lava]

But there is for +% all stat

[torpid acorn]

this talent work?

[astral lava]

And +% afk gain

[astral lava]

no

[astral lava]

But also ask meme, since I'm telling you based on the wiki (may need a fix)

[torpid acorn]

nice, i got one of those, how did i get it?

[astral lava]

And cuz I'm currently not on the game

Demon genie

1 in 250k chance

[torpid acorn]

how do i destribute these?

[torpid acorn]

nice thx ill write that down

[astral lava]

You want lab exp for your other characters as well, right?

Or only bubo?

[torpid acorn]

i want the most length over time

[astral lava]

Ima check IT

!IT

[candid scarab]

https://idleontoolbox.com/ - Unofficial 3rd party site made by Morojo

[torpid acorn]

so idk if that means superpowered bubo or if they all are powered

do you want my IT? might be useful

[torpid acorn]

epic

good lord my bubo needs a trip to the library i dont think a single talent is buffed

hmm, ngl hardly noticed a difference after revisiting the lab after fixing up bubos talents

what does width do exactly? becuase it seems like i want length

[north compass]

width means player to player

[astral lava]

I think both of the 2 character must have a long width for both of them to connect, right Tokito?

[torpid acorn]

then why when i added a full set of talents yeilding 20% buff to all lads did my chain not seem to move?

and theoretically lab should break if i switch talent sets but nothing changes

[north compass]

then youre using the talents wrong or smth

[torpid acorn]

no change

[north compass]

is your bubo in the right place

[torpid acorn]

splatpixelwise is my bubo

[north compass]

idk labs weird

[torpid acorn]

all to the right get thing and even then that doesnt explain why bubo isnt getting buffed

[north compass]

a smarter person might be able to help you

[torpid acorn]

eh ill just finish farming presents for the day and see if it fixes by tommorow

[astral lava]

Try reopening the map

[torpid acorn]

ooh that did it

i thought i woulda tried that since i already tried switching chars. turns out i needed to have bubo rejoin

gigantic no bubble left behind W

barely reached it

[slim mantle]

you can probably rearrange them to also hit the refinery one

[torpid acorn]

oh yeah and it was super easy lol

[tranquil burrow]

I’m in w6 at this point and still don’t know what dna splicers do can someone explain

[slim mantle]

they allow u to splice ur afk gains in the corresponding and earlier worlds

[tranquil burrow]

Which does ?

[slim mantle]

which gives u dna to spend on breeding to increase ur chance for new/shiny pet

[tranquil burrow]

Ohhhh

[slim mantle]

but deletes all drops from the afk session

[tranquil burrow]

Is it needed for breeding?

[quiet crane]

all drops except money but that doesnt rly matter

not needed but helps a lot

[tranquil burrow]

Alright thanks

[slim mantle]

needed is a big word, u just waste a ton of time if u don't do it at all

[quiet crane]

yea

[slim mantle]

and it's most efficient to do short afk claims to splice, u get less return on time investment the longer u afk

[zinc wind]

I have the first two things for auto arm why hasn't it filled the forge yet I have the mats and the space

I'm confused on how it works

[slim mantle]

it doesn't fill it randomly, you need to put in an ore urself and it will keep filling that ore up (in that slot) until u might empty out ur storage entirely, then it forgets what it was as it was all gone when it checked

[quiet crane]

[frigid pebble]

I just opened the chip repository, but where is it?

[sleek pollen]

should be on the left of your lab console, if not there reload the map

[frigid pebble]

That did it, thank you very much.

Aww, can't I just throw money at it

[viral tundra]

do i have to get critter baron for blob fish unlock ?

[slim mantle]

no, u get blob fish from the blob fish npc in w4

[zinc crater]

Do I level up party starters in construction?

[sleek pollen]

need a lot of shiny

[viral tundra]

200 cresent scorpis :C

[sleek pollen]

if you just got it it'd be quite expensive but you could

[viral tundra]

man i hate trapping get so little

[sleek pollen]

20min trap it is

[slim mantle]

don't have a lot of those but take em :p

[sleek pollen]

you get those 200 in 1 hour or less than 2 at least

[viral tundra]

https://klonestone.idleonefficiency.com not with my trapping

neglected that shit for the last 2 months

need to max trapper drone i guess

[slim mantle]

gl on that one

[viral tundra]

full scropi sil boxes

nvm cant eve ncause mission construc mastery

[slim mantle]

it does nothing for shinies btw

[viral tundra]

more criters tho

getting like 10 k a day

[sleek pollen]

its alright then

[slim mantle]

theres many ways to increase critter gain

[viral tundra]

where else besides basic effi

[slim mantle]

for example vials

[sleek pollen]

https://idleoninsight.com/?search=critter

[slim mantle]

base critters is good, shinies in breeding and farming in w6 also give base critters

[viral tundra]

need critters to get more critters tho

[slim mantle]

those are shiny critters, they only drop 1 per trap (up to 118 per trap if ur using the prayer)

[echo radish]

u can always use !insight

[slim mantle]

is that even a command? never seen it before

[echo radish]

!insight yuh

[candid scarab]

https://idleoninsight.com/ - 3rd party site made by Corbeno

[slim mantle]

nice

[sleek pollen]

lmao same didn't even know it x)

[viral tundra]

does eagle lv matter if ia musing trapper drone

[sleek pollen]

most of the time I see people linking the bonus directly from it, never doing the command and telling to search

[echo radish]

yes

[sleek pollen]

ofc

[slim mantle]

reading hard :p

[sleek pollen]

you're expecting too much for an idleon player

[echo radish]

reading is the death of us

[indigo stratus]

Does multikill affect how many statues drop from crystals?

[slim mantle]

no

[indigo stratus]

How can i increase the amount that drops?
I have 1 in 60 with choco chip and DK

[slim mantle]

dr and more orb kills

[sleek pollen]

the forbidden dr

[indigo stratus]

🤔 what are the DR break points?
I'm getting 1k power statues in 3 hrs and it's slow asf...

[slim mantle]

1k in 3 hours sounds extremely low for dk with choco chip and 1 in 60 chance, do you have like 3 dr only or something?

[indigo stratus]

I need 20k and then another 180k for the other characters ;-;

[frigid pebble]

This looks awesome, though I think I signed in with steam, does that mean I'm screwed?

[indigo stratus]

10.7dr atm

[slim mantle]

and u are using dk's orb? on the beans map?

[sinful rose]

i want to play active bubo but i fell he so weak at lvl 105 anyone have some tips to me ?

[indigo stratus]

Yup ~ I'm getting the orb as high as 290 before it runs out

[slim mantle]

you are not even close to playing bubo at that point, just put him in lab until way later

[quiet crane]

also stamps too no?

[slim mantle]

that's efficiency, he said besides efficiency

[quiet crane]

ah aight fair enough

[sinful rose]

i put him in lab too long 😭

[slim mantle]

kinda low, can u level up ur orb? anyway that still sounds too slow statue gain for ur stats but not sure whats wrong

[slim mantle]

you need level 200 talents and oneshotting damage for bubo to start working, before that hes not worth using

[sinful rose]

so i have to active my DK speed run to W5 right ?

[slim mantle]

DK or ES

[indigo stratus]

That's what I'm wondering ^^" i have 3B dmg and orb skill at level 165 ~
Can't get fury relic yet.

[sinful rose]

k tks

[agile willow]

you can start using bubo a little before 200 talent to get started on getting some liquid, but 200 is a really big spike

[slim mantle]

I mean you can do that as shaman already, the gains are just garbage

[fallen ridge]

that's the problem, at 165 u have a lot of downtime for orb and also u aren't reaching "high" numbers

[agile willow]

the gains can be decent at 180+ and considering you're liquid hungry to spend your resources it can be worth to do a little bit of CCing

the biggest spike in 200 talent is the cooldown reduction between 2 cranium cooks, not how much you gain in each cranium cook

[indigo stratus]

So it's still a waste to do anything and i should really focus on sneaking_sailing for the fury relic?

[slim mantle]

it is, without you have way too much downtime in respawns

[fallen ridge]

it's not a waste, just really slow

[slim mantle]

you should always focus on that anyway, fury artifact is huge

[fallen ridge]

u can't really hard farm for fury relic you just need to get lucky

[indigo stratus]

I'm only on island 5 so i got a long way to go for fury relic.. and then getting lucky..

[slim mantle]

you can, theres a big difference between collecting it once a day or collecting every 90-120 min with all chars proccing sailing gains thanks to golden hampters

[fallen ridge]

if u are island 5 then u need to work a little harder on sailing

I thought u already unlocked fury's island

[indigo stratus]

Not me nah ~

[slim mantle]

island 5 is really far behind given the 3b damage point :p

[indigo stratus]

I'm working on lab/div and getting omniphau for gaming/refinery gains.. well potential gains

I rushed w6 and now I'm playing catch up 😅 but everything adds up..

[slim mantle]

I wouldn't considder the gaming procs that big tbh, refinery, printer and breeding are gonna be the main procs u want

[indigo stratus]

Ooo breeding is a yes please!

[fallen ridge]

it also helps sailing a little bit

[slim mantle]

it proccing sailing is so bad honestly, u should be pretty close to guaranteeing a sailing proc from golden hampters at that point anyway

[fallen ridge]

but since there are golden hampters, post office and alchemy I guess it's a bad proc

[indigo stratus]

I should uhh... farming hampters.. i have 5 gold

[slim mantle]

how did you only gain 5 on ur way to w6?

[indigo stratus]

That's a good question

[near condor]

Guys..

Where is the guy who give powerful beginners void walker after completing quest?

[fallen ridge]

W4 town

[near condor]

EXACT location.

Where is he?

[slim mantle]

it litterally shows on ur screen when ur there with the right char...

[fallen ridge]

below W5 portal / at the end of the table

u need Lv 150 on Maestro to appear

[near condor]

😐

Are you fr?

[slim mantle]

it appears before aswell, it's basically yelling at u to get lvl 150

[fallen ridge]

also Lv 150 it's the least u have to worry about his questline:
he asks for 1M kills on all enemies in W1 W2 W3 and 12M g mush kills on maestro

technically u can candy it all, but if u are not able to reach Lv 150 I guess it's gonna cost u a lot of candies

[somber siren]

i tought about making a journeyman is it worth? im currently close to finishing w3 with my best slot at lvl 96

[slim mantle]

there are different opinions about when to make him, mine is making him last (10th slot)

[somber siren]

i mean it sounds too good to be true. a single character with 1 main stat for EVERYTHING

[slim mantle]

hes bad at fighting, bad at skilling

[somber siren]

also specializing in every skill in the game

[sleek pollen]

no

[slim mantle]

he needs to do all of them but specialises in none of them

[somber siren]

oh

[sleek pollen]

he's more of an account wide bonus provider, so he needs to be highest level among all skill to provide some buff, thats his bonus for his 'subclass'

[somber siren]

i tought hes spec in everything

[deep wigeon]

hye does the oposite. speasialize in nothing, wich is why he all over the place

[wind spear]

how can i get unlock Nyanborgir meal?

[slim mantle]

he's litterally useless himself, just account buff provider with high requirements to get started which is why my opinion is making him last

[somber siren]

also doesnt voidman/maestro scale with begginer best class?

[slim mantle]

by cooking up a recipe from the last spice

[fallen ridge]

those are all beginners technically speaking

[wind spear]

cant get 1.5 m power

[sleek pollen]

+1 weapon power is alright, not worst but not best star talent

[somber siren]

i mean im getting 40 from orion

and the star talent js sounds like too much for me to setup atm

[slim mantle]

4 borgers with 1x forager 3x tsar in the territory above

[fallen ridge]

isn't orion base damage?

[somber siren]

oh yea

[wind spear]

thx imma try it now

[somber siren]

i mess them up quite frequently

[sleek pollen]

dmg dr xp

[fallen ridge]

which is a little worse than weapon power

[slim mantle]

it's the highest power setup u can do, if ur lacking with that it just means you have too low power pets/too low level blooming axe

[wind spear]

but how can i put tsar its the last collum

[somber siren]

actually alot worse for me because im barb

[slim mantle]

I said in the territory above

[wind spear]

ohhh got it i never knew it was helping below ty

[somber siren]

so close yet so far to 200k

[slim mantle]

it's written there :p

[wind spear]

finally can open it i was struggeling so hard

[fallen ridge]

how many chars do u have?

[wind spear]

much love

[somber siren]

like 5

im really far behind because ive left my wiz alone for a year so i have 1 super strong char and other ones which are mediocre

this barbarian was created like 4 weeks ago at most

[slim mantle]

all classes besides beginnerline have this talent

[fallen ridge]

usually u make a journeyman as 7th char

[slim mantle]

way too early

[fallen ridge]

I did it as 6th and I couldn't use prayers for half W3

[slim mantle]

https://occido5.github.io/memes/ChangeMyMind.png

[somber siren]

oh nvm i have 6 chars i cant count

[fallen ridge]

7th, 8th is good, u start working towards maestro immediately just to have printer goes brr and I guess XP boost on non-specialized skills for others

so u can level them easier and start equipping iron tools on them

[deep wigeon]

do gold food count as boost food?

[slim mantle]

or you just wait for 10th, don't waste any time at those early low rates leveling his skills to a point where it actually starts being useful and can get vman pretty soon after

[fallen ridge]

dunno 10th seems too late for me

[slim mantle]

I don't think they do, they have their own multiplier tho

[fallen ridge]

I had Vman way before 10th char (even before 9th by a day or two)

[slim mantle]

anything earlier is just wasting time imo, he does nothing big before that anyway, it's a while after that he actually becomes useful

just a thing ppl waste time on instead of progressing

got mine as 9th, granted it was before the level requirements were upped and it just wasn't doing shit until way later anyway, which would be when u have 10 anyway nowadays, I regret not waiting longer

[fallen ridge]

aren't there also some quests to do stuff as beginner in merits?

[slim mantle]

no

[deep wigeon]

just in star signs i think

[fallen ridge]

nvm I dumb then

[slim mantle]

something to back up my statement

[fallen ridge]

so golden food isn't consider boost?

I was living in a lie

[slim mantle]

pretty sure it isn't, if it was it would get mega boosted by the statue

and I'm pretty sure we'd have noticed if it did

[fallen ridge]

x2

[slim mantle]

u have gold food multiplier tho 🙂

which adds up nicely

[forest sedge]

Why i have only x3 printer when i have bonus from lab and harriep

[slim mantle]

visual bug

[main linden]

Anyone can help me kill king doot?

[sleek pollen]

damn naming your peeps took a weird turn

[sleek pollen]

I can

[main linden]

Okay i need to find 1 more thank you

[thorn kraken]

best char to splice things?

[slim mantle]

At first I figured the starsign selection had significant impact so luclyluke had a luck one, legolas agi gandalf wis

[torpid locust]

It says it doesn't affect displayed amount

[sleek pollen]

lmao

[forest sedge]

i know but earlier i have violet print amount

[dapper aurora]

same problem here

[sleek pollen]

sometimes this bug happens don't worry

[knotty falcon]

Hey, I have a very stupid question. Do we have a simple refinery guide somewhere? It's probably my most lacking component, as I'm very much not aware on when to level up stuff, etc.

[dusty apex]

Check the pins

[sonic rapids]

yaaaay 100% finally!

[fossil hatch]

Hell yeah

[deep wigeon]

do stamps have a max lvl?

[slim mantle]

no

[sonic rapids]

no

[deep wigeon]

so same as alchamy then

[knotty falcon]

Thanks, I got it

[sonic rapids]

they just scales costs(a lot)

[knotty falcon]

Turns out I need to push refinery a lot

[slim mantle]

u can upgrade it a lot less than alchemy and plenty in alchemy does have a hard limit which can't be reached realistically :p

[deep wigeon]

do vials and cooking have max lvl? or they same as stamps?

[slim mantle]

they do

lvl 13 for vials, 90 for meals

[deep wigeon]

ok, thx

[sonic rapids]

wait...if we got upgrades above 100%, that means guilded stamp too? like, chance to get more than 1/day?

[slim mantle]

sadly it caps at 1/day

either that or I've had the worst rng ever since I went over 100%

[slim forum]

Is there any caculations for printer sampling?

I tried doing on my own but for some reason the numbers aren't matching

[slim mantle]

can you be more precise about what u mean?

[worthy sail]

Any other way to get cooldown reduction other than po box upgrade?

[knotty falcon]

After dropping the 20k statues for onyx I can deposit the rest normally, right?

[slim mantle]

other than a few talents and a bubble for cranium cooking, no

[worthy sail]

sadge trying to figure out how to get wormhole down to no cooldown (not sure if possible)

[fallen ridge]

level it up

[slim mantle]

u can but u don't want to deposit after just onyxing 1 statue, I mean sure u can deposit a few of the statues u can farm easily but ideally ur onyxing all statues, 100%'ing snakeskin vial and getting the bubble to like 95% value before u do statue dumping

[slim mantle]

the cd isn't this long so yeah u can :p

[slim forum]

Like i mutiplied everything together like afk gain , printer rate and per hr

[slim mantle]

the info shown in the afk menu already calculated afk gain in

[worthy sail]

what level is ur wormhole? like 300 or smth?

[slim forum]

Ohhh so I don't need to include it

[worthy sail]

thats crazy level lol

[slim mantle]

it's just afk screen hourly gain x sampling rate (caps at 90%)

[knotty falcon]

Hey mate, why do I need to onyx them all before depositing? And which bubble do you mean? I did max the vial already (also, sorry for the stupid questions)

[slim mantle]

because every statue you onyx increases how much progress you get per statue you deposit, this is the bubble

pretty much you want to get as much value out of ur statues as u can

[knotty falcon]

Ah, I am dumb, I understand what you mean now

Thanks a lot!

[alpine berry]

Hey , why every time I try to collect Frigid Souls non of my characters can collect , they just there on the ground , its been happening for a week now like this , they are nowhere to be found in my bag nor in my storage , I even posted in bug report but for some reason some f... deleted my post

with of course 0 information why

[pure helm]

You need wave 10.

If you somehow manage to score below that you will see stacks but they will have 0 souls in them.

[alpine berry]

hmm , it does not state this anywhere in game nor anywhere

[knotty falcon]

Wait, when you drop the 20k you get onyx but no levels

[alpine berry]

k , thx , will see once after 10th wave

[knotty falcon]

That feels like I got scammed

[deep wigeon]

so will this allways refill my furnaces and empty them for me now?

[worthy sail]

yep when it runs out of a stack it will put in a new maxed stack

[fading grove]

what the best way to increase sample size on enemies

[somber siren]

drop chance and kill rate

[deep wigeon]

so it picks a random ore from my chest to smelt?

[somber siren]

keychains with multikill worked for me

but theres prolly better ways

[zenith hare]

increased by like 2 drops maybe

[fallen ridge]

the one it was in that slot before

[worthy sail]

no if u put in 10 copper ore and it runs out of copper ore it will refill copper ore from ur storage chest

[zenith hare]

mob respawn, afk% are the main two ways

for keychains

[somber siren]

got me 60 more then normal

[deep wigeon]

ok good, so i can pick. thx

[somber siren]

@fading grove listen meme bean they better then me

[pure helm]

I see alot of people ask this. Why did you think it would be random?

[deep wigeon]

it says takes ore from chest to smelt wich gives 4 options. random, worse to best, best to worse and last ore that was in spot. so just gott make sure i know wich it is

[gusty goblet]

green boi

[viral tundra]

The critters for every trap scale of the efficency of the guy plaxing or of the guy having the trap equipped

[white path]

the character placing the traps

[quiet crane]

thats why u set all traps w bm or vman

[viral tundra]

Ok

So when bm Shows me 43k critters per trap it actualls caculates that

[deep wigeon]

should i try to get the thingy up here?

[viral tundra]

if ure w5 plus ye

[shy ruin]

what stats do i need for chizoar?

[shy ruin]

nah too many kills

[viral tundra]

enough accucary rest is just time

[shy ruin]

oh

[deep wigeon]

at this thing

[viral tundra]

nah that outskirt is equinox you wont get aynthing out of it till w6 anyways

[deep wigeon]

ok, so just keep pushing w5 and lab then

[viral tundra]

y

[shy ruin]

would i be able to defeat chizoar with these stats

and if i have ass luck and/or timing

ignore my name i thought it was funny

[gusty goblet]

he-he-hell nawh

chizoar has 20m hp

u need to work on ur accuracy too

[viral tundra]

its an easy fight

[slim mantle]

can easily do chizoar with that

[gusty goblet]

has to be luck dawg

the defense is just…

oh wait the nerf I forgor

[slim mantle]

you can have 0 defense for chizoar... doesn't matter

[viral tundra]

he is babarian i bet he can face tank it

[gusty goblet]

that crit chance is ridiculous low

[deep wigeon]

u can defeat him as long as u have the accuracy, not that hard boss fight.

[gusty goblet]

probably

[viral tundra]

bro he is w3 xD

[gusty goblet]

I mean I didn’t have 10.8% crit chance at w3

[shy ruin]

oh rly

[shy ruin]

huh i thought it was very low

my stats are also buffed by shrines which i will probably bring into the boss room

[slim mantle]

all it's attacks are dodgeable

[gusty goblet]

oh btw try to get rift slug

it’s literally op imo

[shy ruin]

yeah but it's really the same with the previous two

amarok and efaunt are also dodgable

[random galleon]

when is the right time to leave from lab?

[slim mantle]

chizoar is easily dodgeable

[deep wigeon]

whats that?

[gusty goblet]

max chip slots

[gusty goblet]

a companion

[viral tundra]

frist rota u need kilelr brightside then lv 70 every char

[gusty goblet]

it boosts all stat levels by 25 when leveling them up

so like if u have a level 125 stress tested garb (warrior skill)

[deep wigeon]

ah that brown thing im never gonna get cuz ice cream and magma slime loves me...

[random galleon]

so lv75?

[gusty goblet]

it goes up to 150

[gusty goblet]

😦 sad

ur missing out tbh

I’m missing out too so

I NEED DOOT

imagine there’s like a season 2 of companions

[deep wigeon]

all i got are these, so slug works like ES family bonus kinda?

[gusty goblet]

and TEH final companion is like…

[gusty goblet]

but better

[slim mantle]

not kinda, exactly the same

[gusty goblet]

pray for me y’all

[deep wigeon]

sounds nice

[gusty goblet]

I’m gonna get my weekly companion (pls doot)

my luck is so bad I have a tier 5 treat before doot

I didn’t get do I got been : (

[slim mantle]

it's almost as if that's normal...

[gusty goblet]

when I get enough gems, imma get the hat premiumifier

and premiumify my beenie

or should I say’bean’- ‘ie’

and then I use been companin

so I have green sord, geen hat and geen companin

[deep wigeon]

right in between crystal and slug that im missing

[gusty goblet]

crystal is better becuz dop rat

[topaz owl]

is it smart to famr gmush afk with bm so i get eggs?

[shy ruin]

ok chizoar was an easy breeze

finished the fight at full health as well

hell yeah im in w4

[deep wigeon]

ye got like 5 rams... non of the other top 4

[gusty goblet]

dam

[outer dirge]

What do i have to consider when farming onyx statues with ES? I feel like it's too slow

[shy ruin]

cool i get a 1.5 billion coins for entering w4

[topaz owl]

is it smart to famr gmush afk with bm so i get eggs?

[pure helm]

Only use ES in W3 and even then it is slow. Use DK for the rest. with at least 8x DR and a choco chip.

[next flare]

Do you have the crystal mob chip equipped? It effectively quadruples crystal mob spawns

[deep wigeon]

am i strong enough for W4 boss?

[outer dirge]

yea i'm at penguins for the trap statues. got 21+ DR with choco chip. still feels slow so i felt like I might have missed something big

[small shore]

Who know how to unlock voidwalker ?

[gusty goblet]

w4 boss is probably the easiest boss in the game, considering all he does is self heal and force u to play mini games

[gusty goblet]

Get maestro to level 150 then agent blob is at the end of the table beside the menu

[small shore]

Thanks

[deep wigeon]

like the mining mini game? cuz im bad at that one😨

[small shore]

I Don't play mini games

Im Bad at fly

[torpid locust]

no like kill the closest mob to the middle of the screen, coin flip and smt else

[deep wigeon]

ok

[deep wigeon]

fly low

[small shore]

Ok

I Need something

[digital vigil]

can someone give me a good card loadout for fighting

[broken moat]

Yesterday was a good day

Whats the best pet for pushing???

[topaz owl]

tips for rift 17?

[limber orchid]

!breeding

[ionic drift]

try again!

[limber orchid]

!breeding

[ionic drift]

you can do it

[limber orchid]

I've been stuck on "smokey lake" for over a yeaar.

[ionic drift]

show me the genetics you've unlocked

[limber orchid]

Just stopped trying to advance on breeding.

[ionic drift]

dumb

[limber orchid]

All of them

[ionic drift]

rattler burger monolith combo?

and do you have all slots?

[limber orchid]

I do.

[ionic drift]

have you upgraded your pets good enough?

[limber orchid]

They heal faster than rattlers do damage.

[ionic drift]

can i see your oet levels?

[ionic drift]

also have you used cooking to upgrade your pets damage?

[limber orchid]

I've got a ton of eggs I can use to roll higher power pets.

[ionic drift]

can i see the enemy setup i might can help you build a good enough tactic

[limber orchid]

Wedding Cake is level 35 (+109%) ,other foods are comparable

[ionic drift]

who does what?

[limber orchid]

The little guys in the back are healers.

Guys in front through bouncing attacks so second in line is vulnerable.

[ionic drift]

hmmmmm...

ponder ponder

give me a minute or two will you?

also have you upgraded meals to give your pets bonus damage

[limber orchid]

Yes, like I said wedding cake is level 35

[ionic drift]

what about the croissants?

and beast maker skill?

[limber orchid]

lv 39 crois

[ionic drift]

I'm sorry for asking so many questions I'm just trying to help you
I'm thinking of a setup to kill them rn

[limber orchid]

Beast maker skill is 207 (could be higher)

[ionic drift]

how many hits does one pet survive?

not many right?

[limber orchid]

The burger survives 1 hit. 2 kills it

[ionic drift]

ou man

then we rather need to rely on block eh?

it's a bit difficult making a setup especially because we don't have much time before it gets ruined

[limber orchid]

I had decent luck in arena with 2x coffee, monolith, and burger..

And rattler.

[tribal sparrow]

finished that with this setup.

[limber orchid]

But the healers pretty much insta-heal all damage.

Hmm, that's simialr to what I had.

[limber orchid]

With those actual pet damage values though?

[tribal sparrow]

what i did is stack crap ton attacks. turn off auto skill but spam shield when all attack hits turn on auto skill for monolith and save crap ton attacks again. rinse repeat

[tribal sparrow]

that setup exactly

[dense vault]

Bro I finished all W5 spices with 7k

[ionic drift]

ou mine was completely different

[tribal sparrow]

problem start on next stage. wurms are hard as stone

[ionic drift]

mimic infront
trasher behind
guy that shoots purple portals
ninja
monolith
sniper or lazer

that's what i came up with

[fallen ridge]

I used whale over looter with those pet powers and cleared it in like 29m

[dense vault]

If you can get 30k+ the whale trasher setup is better

[ionic drift]

i don't know their cooldowns so might be a bad setup

[ionic drift]

try mine rq

[dense vault]

Try again until you can auto...

[tribal sparrow]

does it work on wurms?

[fallen ridge]

I can try, but it's gonna take too much time for me

[tribal sparrow]

retry turn off auto and time shielder skill to block 1st wave. skill cooldown doest reset so take advantage of that

[deep wigeon]

dont matter wich u equip, all there buffs work even when not in use

[limber orchid]

I got luckier and shield activated this time

[ionic drift]

is my setup good?
I'm not far in breeding

[rancid furnace]

Does tome top % score not show on mobile or did I drop over night?

[dense vault]

No

[ionic drift]

can you tell me what's wrong?

I want to get better

[deep wigeon]

whats good setup to push breeding arena? (at 3 slots)

[ionic drift]

show me your... abilities that you've unlocked

[dense vault]

No need for block if you have trasher , you need more buffs aka whale looters or refiller and one dps is enough

[fallen ridge]

wurms aren't killing me,
neither I am though

but I can scale basic atk speed so sooner or later they will die

[ionic drift]

mimic out and one refiller right?

[tribal sparrow]

yeah me too. wurms pretty tough wall

[fallen ridge]

(later)

[tribal sparrow]

stalemate

[deep wigeon]

like the unlock tree or storage?

[ionic drift]

the genetics that you've unlocked

[dense vault]

Just the block won't cut it , either tank + block or mono.ith and block

[ionic drift]

thanks apolo

[fallen ridge]

wurms gameplay (with shit pet power 'cause I do stuff I shouldn't be doing)

[ionic drift]

i think you should concentrate on unlocks..

do you know how the sampler works?

[fallen ridge]

*let me convert this dumbass

[deep wigeon]

doin mostlky that

[deep wigeon]

sampler?

[ionic drift]

I didn't notice that because you probably do it badly

[ionic drift]

green pew pew item

do you know how it works?

[deep wigeon]

i got it, never used it tho

[ionic drift]

and that's exactly why you suck at breeding

[deep wigeon]

ouch thats harsh

[ionic drift]

I'd love to say more mean stuff but i should rather go help you

[ionic drift]

lemme write out a super duper long text

[fallen ridge]

hoping discord enables it to play without downloading it

[ionic drift]

how to sampler!!

1. buy from shop and equip
2. the sampler turns afk gains into dna samples. the sampler works in the world that represents its color. (green sampler blunder hills, yellow desert and blunder etc)
3. get a candy and go to gmush
4. use candy DON'T COLLECT AFK GAINS what you instead wanna do is press on the dna next to the afk gain thing
5. pick up samples
6. go to breeding and click on the furthest pet to the right you have unlock
7. upgrade and watch the breed ability get better
8. be happy

if you need help ask so i can bully you some more 🤭

[tribal sparrow]

did u kill it?

[fallen ridge]

nah it lost 1B

but I'm spamming way more than before

[deep wigeon]

do spliceing delete cards u get from afk?

[ionic drift]

they delete everything but coins

DOESN'T MATTER THO WHAT MATTERS IS THAT YOU NEED DNA DESPERATELY

[deep wigeon]

is there a limit for how long the afk can be for me to not be aloud to slice anymore?

[ionic drift]

Noooooopeeeee

[deep wigeon]

30 rolls higher chance does this make em stronger aswell?

[ionic drift]

guess!

[slim mantle]

But the longer u afk the less dna per afk'd time u get

[ionic drift]

I KNEW IT!!

[deep wigeon]

yes?

[ionic drift]

that was driving me insane

[ionic drift]

right!! +100 points

[slim mantle]

Wrong

[ionic drift]

😮

[slim mantle]

It doesn't affect power

[ionic drift]

no way

oh man...

[slim mantle]

There are only 3 things that affect power
Breeding level
Bm talent
Egg rarity

[ionic drift]

what does affect their power because mine has been...slim..

[ionic drift]

thanks occido

[deep wigeon]

so 1 hour afk claim, better than 1 day claim?

[slim mantle]

In total the 1 day would give more but split it up in 24x 1 hour it would give u lots more. Ideally u do 2 min claims

[deep wigeon]

hmm ok

[ionic drift]

thanks occido now i know that I've been wasting...a lot of time...

[slim mantle]

Think of it like the library. U keep gaining but the longer u wait the less u gain

[fallen ridge]

mission abort, I'm gaining damage but while trying to clear it faster by disabling auto abilities and not using monolith I lost a refiller

maybe, just MAYBE, they can still clear it, I have 1k refiller stacks and are decaying really slowly

[tribal sparrow]

pray for rattler to not die XD

[fallen ridge]

they are not dying at all, they need to kill wurms before I end refiller's stacks

[honest lantern]

Anyone know where I can find a spice guide? Been running rabbits and that's not the best set up I'm sure.

[slim mantle]

pin

[fallen ridge]

current situation (everything moves like for 1 frame before freezing again)

[slim mantle]

and this is why I like to take monolith off of auto, so I can speed this shit up once it's properly set up :p

[sudden coral]

is this a good prayer to push vman speedrun?

[slim mantle]

go through some maps, check ur kill counts in each of them, then put the prayer on and check them again, in most cases the difference is small if positive and can end up big if negative

[fallen ridge]

how? what haven't I read that I should have done?

[sudden coral]

well my vman usually sits at w6 this is his stats on the speedrun

[slim mantle]

I just wouldn't have let monolith auto (so disable auto use ability on him before the fight), just me manually using it's ability until I think I no longer need it, then the rest of the team can fight in full speed :p

[slim mantle]

this says exactly nothing

[sudden coral]

well it says the damage because the prayer was referring to losing damage

[fallen ridge]

I will check in like 15min I guess

[slim mantle]

seeing raw damage number means nothing, I told u to check ur kill counts in several maps with and without the prayer and compare...

anyway, easiest is just not using the prayer, the negative can be bad, the positive is never really much

[sudden coral]

i was struggling with waiting for mobs to respawn on the speedrun before

[slim mantle]

that again isn't related to this in any manner

[deep wigeon]

[sudden coral]

higher mob respawn = getting through portals quicker right?

[slim mantle]

yes, you have a mob respawn issue, it has 0 impact on the prayer

[sudden coral]

33% more kills so if u get 300 kills u will get 400 instead and just lose a little daamge

[slim mantle]

it doesn't work like that which you would know by now if you did what I told u to and saw the numbers for urself...

[sudden coral]

i was more just asking if vman ever struggles just one shotting mobs

[sudden coral]

idk i just saw griffybit saying fiber of absence is good 9/10 times

[slim mantle]

well issue spotted, griffybit

[sudden coral]

i don't get it , he's pretty end game

[slim mantle]

he's a big whale but that's it

[sudden coral]

well are u further in the game than him

[slim mantle]

probably not, he has been playing years longer than me, but he is an idiot

[sudden coral]

hm makes sense

[tribal sparrow]

looking good. duuno if it will work though.

[slim mantle]

here u got an example of ideal circumstances of the prayer, what makes this ideal? In this specific case and because I didn't level up the prayer past level 2 I'm not dropping down in multikill tier, if I did or if I had the prayer leveled further I would be losing kills instead of gaining them. the prayers insignificance would be even greater if I would put on multikill cards

[fallen ridge]

do u have alchemic unlocked? that thing might fuck u up by turning shields into skulls

[tribal sparrow]

nope dont even know what that is 😅. pretty low on unlocks

[slim mantle]

would rather use this setup, this can lose the front refiller, no biggie, it's only needed to kickstart the setup

[fallen ridge]

50ish min but I did it

could have done something better in those 50 min

[tribal sparrow]

6 min in only remove 4b hp. iam f up XD

[slim mantle]

alchemic would help with that :p scales ur dmg xD

[tribal sparrow]

what pet is that?

[fallen ridge]

bloque

[slim mantle]

and I didn't mean in the team, just unlocked so looter procs it

[tribal sparrow]

2 pets to go then.

[slim mantle]

it's technically able to ruin a run but the damage scaling more than makes up for it imo :p

[tribal sparrow]

back to cc runs i guess.

[waxen copper]

What soul is best to auto-pray on with 1200 charge for maximum exp?

[broken moat]

woodular drop is sooo important in w3

[slim mantle]

there is no 1 answer to that as it depends on ur account, use IT to check which one is best xp per charge for your account at this moment

so in the case of my account currently w3 td is best xp

[tribal sparrow]

thanks.

[slim mantle]

I need to redo my td but been lazy xD

[tribal sparrow]

i was eyeballing and hoping that its the highest xp.

[spare terrace]

Is there any ideal set up for getting spices?

[slim mantle]

pin

[tidal wolf]

how do i get more traping slots on my chars?

[slim mantle]

get better traps

[spare terrace]

Is the w4 colo still the best way to eat eggs?

[slim mantle]

w4 colo is just a waste of colo tickets

you're much better off saving ur tickets than getting a few extra eggs

[tidal wolf]

okie thanks!'

[spare terrace]

I just beat like 6 of the spice battles so I need eggs to breed foragers so I can at least start getting spices, I wasn't sure if there was any better way, thank you

[slim mantle]

if you're that short on eggs you probably haven't done ur miniboss in a while (as in the one u spawn outside, not in the colo)

and else I'd just wait a bit on time to replenish eggs naturally

[spare terrace]

I did all the mushrooms already, I haven't tried the pet battles for a while so I thought I'd catch up on em and get new spices

[slim mantle]

if I could I would give u some, I'm too lazy to bother using them 😅

[broken moat]

yo guys! is Lab imporant? I am just about to finish W3

what do i need to do in the Lab?

[cyan badger]

Yes very

[thorn mango]

How tf you got all them

[cyan badger]

afk everyone except the one person you push to get elite class then swap them out

[crimson dragon]

I got like 100 but too lazy to use them too

[cyan badger]

Killroy shop in w2 helps

[slim mantle]

just doing miniboss weekly, would have been like 2k more if I didn't spend about 2k to rush to level 80 breeding when that bonus got released

[cyan badger]

plus you can active beast master

[thorn mango]

Hmmmmm interesting

[slim mantle]

eww that's wasteful

[broken moat]

why would i afk in the lab instead of outside it?

[thorn mango]

How many you get per miniboss?

[slim mantle]

I do them weekly when theres 2 and get like 330 or something

[cyan badger]

i dunno it gets boring only buying white pearls at this point

[thorn mango]

330 THATS ALOT

[crimson dragon]

What is the best way to spend killroys balls ?

Skulls *

[slim mantle]

then buy something else? they're not worth a damn now anyway since lava changed them xD

[thorn mango]

You got rift 51 unlocked?

[cyan badger]

its how you connect to more bonuses with less guys in lab

[cyan badger]

Nothing else in the shop is good

[cyan badger]

yeah i have all the rifts unlocked i think

[still oxide]

Can someone link the drop chance sources for my DK

[slim mantle]

arcade balls, even candy, killroy prime multipliers. eggs are useless :p

[thorn mango]

Not really

[still oxide]

They are not useless

[thorn mango]

#endgame-chat-w7🐟 message cough

[slim mantle]

they are from killroy... it's just throwing away rewards

[cyan badger]

I do think arcade balls and candy are super bad buys, and I already have the killroy prime 3rd

[slim mantle]

it's better than egg for sure, candy is more for those addicts that keep running out, arcade balls in general are useful, more chances for those rare drops while getting gems and golden balls to upgrade bonusses. I said killroy prime multipliers, not the 3rd battle :p so for example the jade gain

[still oxide]

Its not working right unless you are just trying to shut me up... it's not going to any links when I click it. Whenni click it is just going to the chat not to the part with the info

[cyan badger]

The killroy prime multipliers all decrease fast

[slim mantle]

when I click it

[cyan badger]

thats what im seeing as well

[still oxide]

When i clicked it went here and I didn't touch my screen after I clicked to give it time to scroll

Discord glitch?

[slim mantle]

If I do the same thing on mobile. Ur app is just messing with u lol

[white path]

that happens sometimes to me aswell, just click it again

[shy ruin]

kinda new to this cooking thing do i cook at double speed if i cook the same meal in 2 different kitchens

[spare terrace]

is there anyway to increase the whale section foraging speeds?

[slim mantle]

yes, all kitchens apply progress to the same collective pool of a meal

[shy ruin]

thanks

what does 15 mean

[slim mantle]

different kitchens have different speeds tho

[slim mantle]

minutes

[shy ruin]

ty

[still oxide]

This is why I just simply ask because I have this happen so to me it's just easier to ask for the info where I ask and for ss. It's nothing personal against anyone.

And my app is upto date

[slim mantle]

I just showed it does work because of this part, to show this was not the case

didn't say it wasn't bugging out on ur end

[left canopy]

anyone know how to get my vman's damage up for kruk quest 10

[slim mantle]

don't you have the pets for this setup?

[still oxide]

Thats because I get push back. On asking questions. And tend to get people sending me else where in this discord when I have problems with discord links

Instead of being more helpful. They want to be helpful in the least helpful way by sending me elsewhere.

[spare terrace]

nah, i dont have that arrow, which pet is that?

[slim mantle]

boombox, 2 more unlocks in w3

[spare terrace]

alright, the i go for the set up you just sent?

[still oxide]

Can you just send those ss

[slim mantle]

the valuable info would be in the spreadsheet so you can play around with values to match ur own and see the effect if u were to do x or y, also the screenshots were made out of them so this is more inclusive, which is also why he sent a link to the message, having full info instead of partial info is more helpful
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1l3RFWq1Zypqkfby1YncOkuY_K4aSist14KUK5dJQ3as/edit?gid=1005058354#gid=1005058354

[slim mantle]

it's the best overall yeah, for now u can just put a flashy (ur rabbit) in it's place

[spare terrace]

sick, thank you for all the help

[sudden coral]

if i turn off my monitor will it still auto actively idle?

[thorn mango]

Hm no? I'm not trying to shut you up at all

[slim mantle]

yes, just don't minimise idleon

[sudden coral]

okay so just keep it only fullscreen and it will auto with both monitors off

[slim mantle]

it should, in the end ur monitor is only showing u what the computer is doing anyway, if u somehow had a 6th sense basically knowing exactly where ur cursor would be and everything on ur screen without having to look at it u could be using ur pc without monitors xD

[sudden coral]

damn that's pretty cool thanks

[empty parcel]

Anybody else not able to get the vip books?

[fossil kayak]

Does anyone want to run HH in a couple minutes?

[slim mantle]

remove books from ur filter

[slim mantle]

could do

[empty parcel]

Bwaaaaaa

Ty

[fossil kayak]

Limeedle 6 - W1

[left canopy]

what vman skill on the bottom tab should i max first (critter, marrow, statue, xp multikill)

[fossil kayak]

statue and marrow

[left canopy]

125 -> 226

roughly 500x higher bonus

[slim mantle]

it scales hard once u have enough meal levels yeah :p

but at first when u have few meal levels it does basically nothing

[left canopy]

i love exponents

everyone's going in the lab except my ES cause i need to farm woodular circles for the gem this week

[broken moat]

hello all!

it is very difficult for me to check every single character on what inventory bags he got

any way to make it easier?

[dense vault]

Imagine not farming gems irl

[still oxide]

I also along with the link issues just feel like when I get linked to those part is kind of being lazy. Thats why i say doing that is being helpful in the least helpful way. Sometimes I just like to hear how other players experiences not read something cold like a guide. Or like I like to get multiple opinions and views

[thorn mango]

Fair enough

[left canopy]

idleon efficiency and also storage tab above your character when your inventory is open

[thorn mango]

Well if your looking for dr do you have the obols?

[dense vault]

Idle toolbox you can check

[left canopy]

where's the peapod pet again? w3 pets right

[slim mantle]

W4 first questionmark

[cold falcon]

what would be gem shop prio for w3/w4 upgrades?

[worldly mist]

What talent is this?

[left canopy]

blood marrow on vman

[shy ruin]

hell yeah 100k damage

[worldly mist]

Thx now I remember

[broken moat]

Why there are X slots in the bags menu

[left canopy]

idk actually

[shy ruin]

unobtainable? probably ones that get added in later updates idk

[thorn mango]

Hmmmmmmm interesting

I think that's enough for chiz

Yeah it is

[broken moat]

Woah that means the game is not even 50% finished

[thorn mango]

Eh depends how many he brings out per update

[shy ruin]

already defeated it lol

[broken moat]

Is there any chance we can see armor on our characters in future?

[thorn mango]

Get to w4

[shy ruin]

already did

chizoar was a very long wait

[thorn mango]

Probably not that's too much for one developer to code

[shy ruin]

why doesn't lava just hire more programmers

[deep wigeon]

get them elite classes

[thorn mango]

Bc he's a one man army at this point

[thorn mango]

Also get back to work pushing w4

[shy ruin]

haven't done that yet

[thorn mango]

THEN DO IT NOW

[shy ruin]

im just trying to get through purple mushrooms

[shy ruin]

i got there like 5 minutes ago chill

[thorn mango]

Everyone in lab besides one to get there elite class first

[shy ruin]

am i supposed to reach that by w4 completion

[broken moat]

I dont really like that the game shows everyone naked 😦

[deep wigeon]

beat em up alr come on

[broken moat]

From what i knoe Llava refused some ppl to help him develop the game

[broken moat]

Probably for economic reasons

[thorn mango]

No

[shy ruin]

chizoar armor wow

[thorn mango]

You can beat w5 boss with 30m damage on es though

[broken moat]

whats so special about chizor 😦

[still oxide]

I do but they need work

[thorn mango]

What armour you got?

[broken moat]

and why the shiny animal chance is like 1 in 10k

[shy ruin]

!gear

[candid scarab]

Gear Recommendations

[deep wigeon]

nah my main pusher ES had 7mil dmg for W4 boss, but most chars and ppl will have less

[broken moat]

well depends

[shy ruin]

7m is crazy im at 100k

[shy ruin]

how am i supposed to get that by w4 completion if the recommended gear is dementia

[broken moat]

some of my chars are still using iron armor, some use class-specific, some use Platinum

[thorn mango]

Do go and farm sandy pots for the dice obols on dk

[deep wigeon]

mine

[zenith hare]

it's meant for mid-late of that world

[broken moat]

mostly i use class-specific for stat boost

[zenith hare]

so get dementia by mid w4

[shy ruin]

i'm in amarok armor

[thorn mango]

Yeah yeah we get Mr whale for good stats

[thorn mango]

Good enough for w4

[still oxide]

I also and here on some of these sources I have

[zenith hare]

I'm not even a whale

[shy ruin]

nah i plan on getting full dementia asap

[broken moat]

the lvl 100 mage armor gives passive +30% crit damage, kinda insane...

[deep wigeon]

new amarok armor on ur squire with new upgrade tokens might work too

[shy ruin]

fairs

[zenith hare]

that's a +0.3 FYI and that doesn't impact afk gains

[broken moat]

i really dont think amarok armor is enough to push W3

[shy ruin]

i'm gonna put my current amarok armor on my squire after i switch to dementia

[shy ruin]

well i did it anyways

[zenith hare]

it's enough to push w5

[shy ruin]

nothing i can do about it now

[broken moat]

i preffer Platin

[left canopy]

just utilize its upg stone slots

[deep wigeon]

it is

[broken moat]

aight i guess

well if u think about it

[zenith hare]

platin is actually worse

and also more expensive

[broken moat]

even iron is enough if you play Squire

[shy ruin]

yeah

[left canopy]

you just recraft amarok and put on the new upg stones when you get to a new world

[broken moat]

Squire passive DEF is op

[zenith hare]

or barb

[broken moat]

i wanna test out Eufaunt

[zenith hare]

or you actually do the recommended stuff for surv and acc

[broken moat]

armor

[zenith hare]

dont

there's a reason why people call it a slab armour

[mint rivet]

Hello ladies and gentlemen!

👋🏿

[zenith hare]

heya

[mint rivet]

[deep wigeon]

stranger danger

[mint rivet]

I am running into a problem here

lacking engi lvls

[zenith hare]

level engi faster then

[mint rivet]

5th time i see this pack

[slender needle]

what do i do with my mman once i got him?

[mint rivet]

did buy now bonus change from green gems to blue gems?

[slender needle]

busted

[zenith hare]

skill

[mint rivet]

1 month on the grind, stiill no sov fury

[zenith hare]

his damage comes from skilling

[slender needle]

in any particular order?

[zenith hare]

the lowest one in w1-3 skills

[slender needle]

including worship....?

[zenith hare]

yes

[slender needle]

thats a pain

[broken moat]

why is getting a shiny pet from hunting so crazy hard?

[slender needle]

welp

[zenith hare]

you want to worship on everyone anyways

[zenith hare]

cause it's base 5% chance and is based on traps claimed, not critter amount

[broken moat]

so best method is every 20 minutes?

[zenith hare]

yes

[slender needle]

you js started trapping? its usually hard the first few times, once you get a poison frog use it to get a silk trap, this will help immensely in getting more shinies

[broken moat]

that means i never sleep irl?

[slender needle]

yes

[zenith hare]

you have multiple characters

who each have their own traps

which hunter auto replaces

[broken moat]

well my problem is the quest

[slender needle]

ye but im out of balloons, its an uphill battle

[zenith hare]

you shouldn't ever balloon worship?

[broken moat]

i didnt get the shiny crab in months

[zenith hare]

use worship charge

it's actually why everyone should do it

higher level worship means faster worship charge speed which means more souls

[still oxide]

@thorn mango my current D.R.
And some other sources

#midgame-chat-w3🧊w4🔮 message

[slender needle]

i dont, but when its a new char. i use 1 or 2 to get skulls faster

[zenith hare]

as better skulls (the speed stat) means faster worship charge

[slender needle]

i get it enough so i can get the second skull

[thorn mango]

Shit you dr is better than mine

[zenith hare]

a 1 hour candy suffices for each skill

[slender needle]

you cant afk worship tho

[thorn mango]

I may need to get golden cakes

[zenith hare]

charge gain IS based on afk gains

including candy usage

which means yes it is~

[slender needle]

wha

candies give charge\

[azure beacon]

how do i make my construction faster

[zenith hare]

it's actually used a lot later on when you're filling out death note and stuff

[zenith hare]

focus xp% only

[slender needle]

only use cogs that give xp% delete everything else

[zenith hare]

also only leave squires on the cog board

everyone else makes new cogs

[mint rivet]

daily crystals moment

also weekly reset is here, giant time