midgame-chat-w3🧊w4🔮

[chilly oasis]

Then you should have a special peanut from the quest I think, kill Biggie Hours normally or via collesium, without taking damage once

Restart the quest you're stuck on, and you'll get this item. Kill Biggie Hours with this in your inventory without taking damage even once.
https://idleon.wiki/wiki/Elderly_Peanut

[hidden jewel]

w

[hidden jewel]

@chilly oasis

[chilly oasis]

Grats

[worn raptor]

easy game?

[hidden jewel]

ggs to me and u

[jade kindle]

w

[indigo stratus]

Now voidwalker

[chilly oasis]

I don't think I like cooking. I also don't think I like any of the Berserker cooking skills.

I don't like how the main idea is to have a Barb afk in the kitchen for ladles. And skills to boost ladle gain and ladle usage efficiency. I kinda like Taste Test even tho it's inefficient. Apocalypse Chow's affects are good but I'm not at a point in the game where I can make use of that. I just don't like the core design of how Blood Berserker skills work with cooking, and how you get and use cooking exp levels. My least favorite skill design so far

[hushed cape]

Does the telekinetic storage special talent automatically activate?
I put the talent in my attacks, and I was wondering that if my inventory is full the skill would automatically activate (for active play of course)

[chilly oasis]

I think I'm going to prioritize "Skill Strengthen" and "Overblow Testosterone" for now cuz at least that'd help with Fishing. I dont' want to deal with afking there for ladles and using them.

[chilly oasis]

It doesn't auto-use the talent even in auto-attack. Just hotkey it somewhere convenient to manually use it

[uneven obsidian]

afking for laddle is usually not worth it until you can get like 1k laddle a day really

[chilly oasis]

Yeah that makes sense

I'll just make the cooking talents low priority for berserker's tab 4 skilling talents

[uneven obsidian]

and taste test is just a trap, completely useless 99% of the time

[chilly oasis]

Would you say building more than 1 level of fire is a trap too?

[uneven obsidian]

depend on the odds of getting the recipe vs time to get the fire

like for example if it take 10min to complete a new recipe and take an extra 1h to get the fire over leveled, that extra fire better improve the odd by x6, which it never does

[versed ledge]

Does shrine architect need to be leveled past 1 for any reason?

[uneven obsidian]

give faster progress

can do without initially, but later on good to invest in it since shrine take forever to rank up

[versed ledge]

What’s the charge refer to? I just see the level, I just placed 4 and got 120h off a cosmic candy bringing them to lvl 4

Also is it a good idea to place towers on my wizard ?

Can only place on one char right?

Been watching griffys vids but need to research some more

[ebon rampart]

Shrines need more and more hours to level up. So a faster charge rate means you need less hours

[versed ledge]

Tyty

[slow warren]

if you proc breeding time with omniphau, does it only generate eggs or also spices?

[worn raptor]

only eggs

[frigid pebble]

Finally! Then i decided to click everything and did the monster breeding before finding the sleeping guide, so now i have to wait 1 hour until i can breed a mushroom again 🤣

[tribal sparrow]

I can't close pet battle right?

[deep wigeon]

how many lvls should i upgrade my food?

[zenith hare]

you can

[zenith hare]

focus the meal speed food for now, aim for level 11

[deep wigeon]

ye workin on eggs

[zenith hare]

for arena, its better to turn off auto tho

to make sure the round is saved

[tribal sparrow]

i can resume right or surrendered when exited?

[zenith hare]

nope

[tribal sparrow]

spice battle

[zenith hare]

resets

its why people use the nuke team later on

makes even the last battle take at most 30 mins

with bad pet power

[magic swan]

Guys artic and harriep combine is purple prints right? Why mine is yellow event the 2 gods connected

[zenith hare]

because you dont have the lab bonus on likely

sums my activity up btw

[short siren]

So quick question in cooking for the meals is 70 the cap or am I missing an unlock?

[worn raptor]

max lvl 90

[short siren]

Ahhh wonder what I'm missing alright thank you

[zenith hare]

w6 jade

[chilly gyro]

w6 jade upgrade

[dusk ledge]

Is lab something that just takes a ton of time, or is there ways to speed it up? Overnight, my toons only gained a single level

[zenith hare]

both another tier of artifacts and a pure +10 upgrade

[worn raptor]

lab is slow

[zenith hare]

it's slow at first, speeds a lot up when you get bubo

[short siren]

Ahhh well thank you twice 😁

Ah looks like I might be missing the sailing artifacts. sailing is so slow I often forget about it for weeks on end but I have the jade emporium upgrade it looks like

[dusk ledge]

Alright. I got to world 4 in 4 weeks F2P, so I guess it is time to just chill and catch up from rushing everything

Prob super behind of where I should be

[worn raptor]

lab is something like that

[dusk ledge]

I see

Atm I am having 4 toons in lab and the other 2 grinding out multikill

my multi is trash, can hardly keep up with rank 3 salts with my prints

[slim mantle]

you want to get to w6 before you stop pushing and just catch up, also you're wasting time going for deathnote grind right now

[agile willow]

you shouldn't worry about multikill right now, you should worry about unlocking new worlds. new worlds unlock more skills that requires time to boost your account, so the sooner you unlock them the better. after you reach w6 you go back to fix everything

[dusk ledge]

I definitely cannot push to w6, I get 200 kills per hour in w4 atm

I definitely need to catch up

[slim mantle]

200 kills per hour means you are either lacking on survivability or accuracy, both should be easy fixes

[dusk ledge]

c) both

[slim mantle]

survivability: equip food, solved

[agile willow]

you may not be able to do it straght up, but that should be your goal

[slim mantle]

accuracy: stop slacking on mechanics, do both clickers, dungeon flurbo shop, starsigns, use cards, cardset, prayer if u need to

[dusk ledge]

Isn't world 6 the last world?

[agile willow]

focus on increasing survivability and accuracy to push, not multikill

yes

[slim mantle]

it is but everything pre world 6 is just tutorial

[dusk ledge]

I see lol

[slim mantle]

also make sure u 50/50 goblet of hemoglobin

[dusk ledge]

I fucked my merit points pretty hard, trying to get more so I can get more than 10 points in hemo lol

[agile willow]

some w4 focuses: get at least 9 characters, get everyone their elite class, get to killer brightside in lab. these aren't in order

[dusk ledge]

.....I have 6 characters lol

9 will take time

[slim mantle]

9 chars in w4 is unrealistic, like thats wasting tons of time

[dusk ledge]

I still need to get tab 3 of the anvil unlocked

[slim mantle]

account level requirement for chars was upped a while ago and w4 xp is not good xD

[dusk ledge]

I can just BARELY get to the x3 refinery bonus with my current lab standings with 6 characters. As much as killer brightside looks great, it will take time

[slim mantle]

it's normal to take time, that's why u put all but 1 char into lab as soon as u enter w4

[dusk ledge]

I am doing 2 as I need more bloaches, ore, and fish. Keeping my 2 warriors out

[slim mantle]

printer

w4 is when u stop skilling

[dusk ledge]

5 out of my 6 prints are being used to upkeep my refinery

[slim mantle]

stopping it also means ur skills will be lower level which is good for ur beginner line later as he needs to be highest level in those

[dusk ledge]

I don't have level 30 fishing as well

[slim mantle]

once ur wizard becomes elite u spend a few min with him and refinery is taken care of for the day easily

[dusk ledge]

I think there are things past the level 30 portal?

[slim mantle]

once u unlock equinox resources u get lvl 30 fishing basically for free

[slim mantle]

there are, but it can wait till u get equinox resources unlocked, like mid w4 u could get that done, when u have killer brightside and ur elite classes it should be fairly doable

so like, a few days delay maybe

[dusk ledge]

Speaking of skilling, how can you get more water for alch? I am at 5.1 per hour atm, really locking my bubbles

[slim mantle]

you pretty much starving for liquid until ur somewhere in w6 (as that's when u realistically can reach level 200 talents on ur bubo)

which is a requirement to start doing cranium cooking properly

[uneven obsidian]

i would still use the cranium cooking cooldown daily even if its not optimal, any water gain can help

[slim mantle]

well yeah but it's not gonna solve the lack of liquid at all at that point :p

[frigid pebble]

Man, did I screw up with gobo again? I'm making a meal and I have to speed it up with the ladles, but I used them before starting the meal ( thought it was like the pens from the post office situation)

[slim mantle]

sounds like u just have to wait a bit instead of having ladles to speed it up

[frigid pebble]

Damn, 4 hours! Oh well.

[slim mantle]

u don't happen to have any ladles u got in the past in ur storage?

[dusk ledge]

Are there any lab tools I am missing?

I don't see any, but may be blind

[slim mantle]

rings and shoes, w4 mobs drop them

[frigid pebble]

Nah, not that I'm aware of.

[slim mantle]

I heard u could spend a teleport to get to the mob map anyway despite not having gobo finished so u could use that as a work around for now if that still works

[frigid pebble]

Ohhh, will give it a go.

It's a no go, won't let me teleport in there, thanks for a good idea though.

[slim mantle]

you probably don't but if u do happen to have the 6th post office box it can give ladles as a reward

[frigid pebble]

I can get some from kilroy though, shame as I like to use them on candies, but needs must.

[slim mantle]

u could do that yeah, I wouldn't quite considder it worth generally but ofc u have to make that time judgement urself

if I could I would just give u a few xD

[latent bramble]

yeah, ez gains

doesn't even give me one water

[broken moat]

hello all! is biggy hours worth farming?

[quaint kite]

does anyone have a guide for the best setup for spice foraging time?

[slim mantle]

yes so keep buying those bags daily

[broken moat]

seriously

[echo radish]

Damn since when did your account get so good

[slim mantle]

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/u/0/d/193tGCv_nJpgleOzQ2jkO9KEpSh8JcOZLdjDolD9Z0FI/htmlview#

[broken moat]

what for?

[slim mantle]

wouldn't be doing so myself if it wasn't

[latent bramble]

gems, candies

boss deathnote

card

[broken moat]

why the heck would u farm that mob like crazy

omg dont tell me he keeps his one shot mechanic unless you got 500 def

[quaint kite]

tyvm!

[slim mantle]

is there an issue? :p

[latent bramble]

it's not a one shot mechanic
it's a protect the peanut thing

[frigid pebble]

Yeah, I went ahead, down To 45 mins...

[obtuse pendant]

Is this a bug? It's supposed to be four souped lab tubes but 3 only shows here

[slim mantle]

looks to me like a visual bug, feel free to lock XDNEXUS2 in the lab and see if XDNEXUS4 range goes down, it should

[broken moat]

what are the first things to do after i got my first Maestro?

[slim mantle]

make that loser highest level in mining, chopping, fishing, catching, trapping, worship

[ebon rampart]

And "first" maestro? 👀
That should be your only maestro

[slim mantle]

I think he means when he first unlocks it, as in just got it

[ebon rampart]

hopefully

[sudden coral]

is t here a quicker way to get the grey stuff

[slim mantle]

release of the hole made it way easier

[uneven obsidian]

from hole

[broken moat]

well alot of players make at least 2 maestro

[slim mantle]

that's just plain stupid

[sudden coral]

forgot about that thanks

[fierce vigil]

anyone got any tips on how to get more Nullo Salt?

[slim mantle]

omniphau

[fierce vigil]

what is that?

[slim mantle]

w5 god

[fierce vigil]

humm w5 god o.O if i level it up it helps me get more salt?

[slim mantle]

if u link to it then ur afk time procs 1 of a selection of things to an equal ammount of time as ur afk, refinery is one of those options

[fierce vigil]

SWEET

i just need to link it and im set to go

[slim mantle]

it can also proc useless stuff instead tho, it's rng :p

[clear rune]

how much damage does the nuke do in pet fighting? I cant seem to understand it

[zenith hare]

feels like 500% or 1000% aoe

[clear rune]

ty

[latent bramble]

i'm so close yuge milestone

[azure beacon]

any tips on how to quickly farm audio cords? need them for void armor

the same for the icile bugs and the frozen log thingy

[echo radish]

smh why u flexing on us poor earlygamers

[lime pumice]

literally coming back around the track to lap people 💀

[astral lava]

What is that?

New account run?

[inland peak]

What is a decent recent TD setup for W3?

[gusty goblet]

this is real bruh😭😭😭🙏

[random galleon]

is there any guide for pet battle or arena?

[ionic drift]

yes but if you don't have rattler or monolith then just use your mind and make a good setup

[indigo stratus]

Crazy

[queen knoll]

how much damage should i have before grinding eclipse skulls? My ES took a most of my candy just for GM

[dense bane]

help XD

[broken moat]

why is it so incredibly hard to get shiny hunting stuff

[latent bramble]

you'd ideally want to do 1/day, so have your kph be in the 40m range if you're just doing it with one character

[uneven obsidian]

you using a +shiny trap, claiming on hunter ?
leveled the shiny bubble, stamps, vial ?

[visual zinc]

l

do i go for afk?

[queen knoll]

I was at 2,5M/h. I will have to go through everthing as there is some other bonus i'm forgeting

[uneven obsidian]

are all the mobs in the world aready at lava skull ?

[patent flume]

btw does anyone know if taking any new sample resets all of the samples to original?

[uneven obsidian]

taking new sample will reset the sampling buff from event or artifact

[queen knoll]

lava or dementia

[patent flume]

but say you take a sample on one character, does it reset all characters (for the event buff)

[uneven obsidian]

it reset for all yes

[uneven obsidian]

you'll probably want to work more on your alchy/stamps before going for eclipse, that kph is low for that

[queen knoll]

probably, will check again everything anyway. A ~x15 diference is quite big

[latent bramble]

afk gains, god links, plenty of damage bonuses in w5/6

[slim mantle]

either that or villager xp, both are good, I ended up going for villager xp first as I know I'll get the afk % later

[quartz jasper]

The divine knights Orb multiplier thing for the 3D printer, applies to the actual outputs, and not sample sizes right?

Like, I dont have to resample everything?

[frigid pebble]

Well, crap. I screwed up on gobo by using the ladles before I started cooking so I got 3 from the skull guy, turns out I still can't advance as, I'm guessing that didn't finish the recipe instantly as per the quest.... Any suggestions anyone?

[slim mantle]

it's this one?

cuz if so, did you afk in the kitchen area for 15 min (= char left in the kitchen but ur not on ur char)

[frigid pebble]

Yeah for 45 minutes, I'll give it another go, maybe I was stood on the purple area just outside the kitchen.

[slim mantle]

u should see that ur cooking bottom left of ur screen before u go off ur character. it would help tho if u looked at ur ingame quest, it should tell u which one of the 3 parameters u didn't complete

[frigid pebble]

You're indeed correct, it's the afk for 15 mins.

[frigid pebble]

Which, 16:47 I posted here and left my character there, so 2 hours... But as I say, I could've been on the purple area rather than in the kitchen.

[broken moat]

Does this also apply to alchemy?

And luck really boosts exp from kills?

[slim mantle]

check ur xp multiplier here with and without

[frozen swift]

Let the Tails hit the floor is so annoying

I have 1.53 out of 1.54 covered....

[slim mantle]

almost done :p

[frozen swift]

I don't know where the last one is lmao

[slim mantle]

screenshot

[slim mantle]

oof bb, very unfortunate class for this :p

[frozen swift]

He was the only one not doing anything important.

I am at 1.54 out of 1.54

.........

Got it!

[slim mantle]

well, gues I can stop looking for spots to mark :p

[frozen swift]

Sorry lol thanks though!

[gusty goblet]

noice

[balmy pagoda]

Im sorry, why is it on red ?

[uneven obsidian]

you got another mage with a higher lvl, so better bonus

[balmy pagoda]

Ahh, thank you

[slim mantle]

so, who else is just sitting here like: "release the update already lava"?

[sinful isle]

Which shrines should you focus on?

[slim mantle]

you have reason to level them all but certainly can't go wrong with dr, crystal chance or carry capacity

[buoyant sedge]

Mee, I want to see what money i can spend

[slim mantle]

I just want to continue progressing hole and I'm fairly certain that's gonna be todays update xD

[zenith hare]

update when

[slim mantle]

lmfao he just posted in future content right after u said that

[zenith hare]

wowww

[slim mantle]

but god damn it lava

[zenith hare]

i feel targetted

its a fair reason tbf

from a marketting stand point

[placid pasture]

Dang

[zenith hare]

plus means the update may be a bigger one overall

[slim mantle]

that means next week probably no update aswell ffs

[placid pasture]

Could of at least given bug/ qol updates during sale

[slim mantle]

already said that last week

[zenith hare]

reminder

end of the sale is just after christmas

so it goes with what hes saying rn

[slim mantle]

u mean after new year

[zenith hare]

"during the sale"

[slim mantle]

the way he says it means it's very unlikely, I wouldn't hold my breath for it

so can count on today and next week no update

[zenith hare]

yeah but dont rule it out because you feel pessimistic

[slim mantle]

I didn't, I used a keyword probably

[zenith hare]

plus from a marketing standpoint, days after christmas is one of the best to release an update

[placid pasture]

It will be a gem shop update after about a month of the same one lol

[zenith hare]

a month is nothing

we're used to 3/4 months of same, if not more

[placid pasture]

Exactly, he will update something unexpected that has like 0 impact.

[zenith hare]

reminder

[deep wigeon]

why do all my traps look like cardboard no matter wich trap i use? ive seen ppl with diff ones on yt

[ebon rampart]

Because you are placing cardboard boxes -> You can change the type you are using when you place them

[deep wigeon]

ohhhh thx

thankfully cardboard looks better than others i have, so dont have to run and change em all

cuz exp over shiny for now right?

[ebon rampart]

Great
Less running around -> That gets easier once you unlock the trapper drone. Can place everybodys traps on one char and without moving maps

If you need shinies for a new trap, a quest etc you might want to use the shiny traps. Depends on your needs

[indigo stratus]

:3 yay

[craggy bough]

whats the best place to grind presents

[deep wigeon]

hunter still better for claiming them tho right?

[latent bramble]

can't imagine

[indigo stratus]

Does the Vman skill of bonus critters and souls work account wide or just on him?

[deep wigeon]

do these card buffs work when collecting or placeing?

[ebon rampart]

Slightly. Not too drastic, but if you don't have the trapper drone then it's gonna be way easier to claim on your hunter

[deep wigeon]

drone give xp to chars?

[ebon rampart]

Shiny critter when collecting, efficiency + xp when placing

[deep wigeon]

ok, well should i put a bunch of shiny traps at scorpion so i get drone?

[ebon rampart]

Unlocking the drone is good
And getting the shiny frog vial in alchemy also helps

[pure helm]

Shineys are also caped per trap so to get lots of them you need the prayer and short trap timers.

Luckily you dont need many of them.

[deep wigeon]

8hrs to long?

[pure helm]

I mean I use 5 day ones now but if you want shinys 20 min for a day or two will get you more.

[indigo stratus]

You only claim once a week?

[craggy bough]

anyone know the best place to grind presents?

[pure helm]

Claim? That shit is automated.

[indigo stratus]

Not but i mean you only get critters once a week with a 5day timer?

[pure helm]

The DR is exatly the same everywhere so more mobs or better re spawn. Use a bubo if you can.

[pure helm]

Yes. I am not the most active so this gives me solid critters and I dont need to think about it. Until reseting traps.

[deep wigeon]

thats not something from lab right? cuz i dont like lab...

[indigo stratus]

Rift bonus 😅

[pure helm]

There is a rift upgrade to auto collect and re place traps.

[gusty goblet]

my blood berserker has 90m damage while my mage has 89

[deep wigeon]

rift? wats that🤷‍♂️

[gusty goblet]

thing at octopus map

it’s the first rift bonus I think

[gusty goblet]

wtf dawg

ur lab is ass

u need to touch the farming thingy

[deep wigeon]

it was built 3 days ago...

[gusty goblet]

damage boost for free

[gusty goblet]

so what? You’re supposed to have the first lab bonus

[pure helm]

Its the W4 side path with a bunch of bonus. Oddly enough easier than the W3 one atm but it will have more stuff added in time.

[deep wigeon]

then no 2x kill wich is even worse

[gusty goblet]

put ppl on lab that’s what you need to do

[deep wigeon]

have had 7 chars there 24/7 since i got to w4...

[gusty goblet]

oh

get at least one character farming lab rings then

do u have level 100 characters yet?

[deep wigeon]

lab rings?

[deep wigeon]

yes

[gusty goblet]

the boost lab efficiency

[gusty goblet]

are all your characters level 100?

you get the lab rings from demon genies btw

[deep wigeon]

all except 1

[deep wigeon]

wich char good for getting that kinda stuff?

[indigo stratus]

ES

[deep wigeon]

so my pusher, ok. guess push can go on hold for alittle bit then

[echo radish]

big scammed moment

[deep wigeon]

is there a vial for lab stuff?

[agile willow]

this and godshard vial that gives all skill efficiency

[deep wigeon]

hmm¨, so nothing i got

[pure helm]

Thats the W4 trapping critter so your not to far off.

[deep wigeon]

just unlocked mouse...

dident know i had to do the guys quests untill i had full crab traps gear for everyone...

[pure helm]

Heh, there is a few cooking bonus for lab too aim for lvl 11 on all your meals and the bubble that boosts cooking speed diamond chef.

[deep wigeon]

guessing thats on next page?

[agile willow]

kinda, its on next page of the yellow cauldron

[deep wigeon]

ah so this page?

[agile willow]

yes

[cold wraith]

third on that page

[agile willow]

you're two away from it

[cold wraith]

💀

[ionic widget]

Can multi-kill increase of extra damage done actively?
For example, let's say the current AFK multi-kill is a 3x modifier, and a character deals enough damage in a single hit that it'd reach the next tier, would that hit count as if it was instead 4x?

[white lintel]

Only your sheet dmg is used in the calculation

[zenith hare]

no, only the sheet max damage matters

[ionic widget]

Sadge, but makes sense.

[white lintel]

Otherwise active play would be another gormillion times better than afk

[ionic widget]

I kinda figured it'd be the case for that reason

[deep wigeon]

do i use this when i cook food? or only new recpie and upgrades?

[latent bramble]

yasss, i've now put in more effort to do colo than just getting the giant prayer

[white lintel]

You use it to make new recipes, to upgrade kitchens, for some bubbles, and to buy some chips/gems from lab shop

[deep wigeon]

ok so, dont have to worry bout my food not cookin if i throw it all into upgradeing a table

[white lintel]

Yea, spices aren’t used as a resource to cook food like coal for a fire

Just for unlocking

[deep wigeon]

should i put my bb on cooking duty when 6 of my chars are enough to keep 2x kill in lab going?

[white lintel]

You probably won’t be getting that many ladles per day, but it’s still an option, ik other people recommend just keeping him in lab for now, to reach further, but if you don’t reach any new and significant nodes, you could put him in the kitchen

[deep wigeon]

these shoes wont carry me?

[white lintel]

Help yes, carry no, but you can check how much of a difference they make in your afk menu

[agile willow]

as you're standing above the shoes, you can technically say they are carrying you

[jade kindle]

should i put my blood b in cooking or lab

[agile willow]

if you can take him out its good, but you want killer brightside more imo

[jade kindle]

ok so i wait until 2x then put him in cooking

[agile willow]

yeah

[jade kindle]

ok thx for the advice

[agile willow]

choco chip is coming in 3 weeks, so maybe if you think you're far from cheese it can help to let him cook

[jade kindle]

what are the materials required for Choco chip?

[jade kindle]

thx

[frigid pebble]

Man, I'm still having damn issues with gobo

[uncut pier]

how far do i need to go on the lab grind? I quit for awhile and came back and all my characters have all the chip slots and my bubo is 200 lab and i have the 1000 level lab bonus from the rift, so do I need to have them in there anymore for anything

[latent bramble]

W6 introduces 3 new lab jewels, you get them at 700/1400/2100 total lab levels

[uncut pier]

is that the bonus you can buy from the jade emporium or whatever, well ill have the first 2 but far off of getting the 2100 so guess bubo sits in lab for another 2 years lmao

[pure helm]

There are plenty of XP bonus later no need to get 2100 now.

[deep wigeon]

is this like a lab chip?

[agile willow]

yes a very good one

[deep wigeon]

lab chip is buff for the character they are on right?

[uncut pier]

I'm unlocking the last 2 gods in divinity right now anyways so i'm just gonna put everybody into the lab, since i have doot for a little bit just too get a little further then i'll probably just leave bubo there cause i barely use him for anything, i've been leveling a bunch of worship towers to try that again cause it's been awhile lol but alot of my towers are like 54/54 now so should be able to mow through a good bit

[deep wigeon]

hope they soon give me a easy chip… current ones too pricey, so still got nothing

[balmy pagoda]

You should be doing worshipping on one character that is wizard right? or am i getting something wrong

[pure helm]

Sounds like a plan.

[pure helm]

No worship is for all your char. Unless you mean TD do that with a beast master.

[balmy pagoda]

Oh damn, so i should go to let's say gobling once a day on all my chars? and get the souls from the thing?

[pure helm]

Ya that works there is also a construction in W3 town to have access to all totems there.

[balmy pagoda]

Thank you

[pure helm]

Np.

[ancient flame]

new to world 4 what gem shop upgrades do i get with 856 gems

[stable spruce]

I got divine knight as my first elite class last week, took a break in progression to make my journeyman and unlock maestro (just finished!). Other than following the efficiency tools to keep up with any progression i forget, is my best gameplan still just pushing my DK to world 5 and then 6? Or should I take time to build up combat on other chars to get their W4 classes unlocked

I was gonna push for each class, but I'd need to craft armor + weapons for each character and that's just a lot of effort atm lol

[pure helm]

Gear does very little, if you can push with one char your others are very close.

Wile pushing is almost always a good idea getting a new class is a big jump I would get elites preferably wile pushing.

[knotty solstice]

What server?

I also need the achivement, so this is a nice bonus!

[uncut pier]

i've been sitting here for like 5 minutes, lmfaoo these things aren't getting anywhere but are taking so long to die. I don't even remember what i wanted to get my worship waves up for it was some bonus but it's been awhile. It gives me more souls when I harvest from the soul thing in the town right?

[true kraken]

Do I keep buying the processor chips after getting 3?

[limpid dragon]

did this apply to all chars or just the one that uses the item?

[jade kindle]

all

[jade kindle]

no

[grand wave]

anyone got the guide on how to clear the last few spice battles?

[latent bramble]

#1208108939313684621

yeehaw, time to cycle everyone through

[grand wave]

i thought it be in here tyyy

[latent bramble]

then once you've beaten the battles, you can check out #1303887857324265514 for best setups to gain a spice

my poor prints can't keep up

[deep wigeon]

how do i do this

[dusty apex]

Click the quest giver and read what he says

[uncut pier]

can I use any of the websites, toolbox, efficiency, whatever to search for specific upgrades, for example right now I want to find anything that gives tower defense starting points, isn't there a website for like everything in the database and I can just type in starting points and it'll pop up everything that gives it

[pure helm]

Use idleon insight for that.

[uncut pier]

yep that's the website I was thinking of that I missed, thank you!

if you get to wave 121 on them idk if that extra 200 points is gonna do anything for you lol

ah crab juice vial thats what i was missing

[knotty solstice]

I'm currently thinking that I should push wizard because +talent level seems good because that means that everyone gets a little stronger, Family bonuses are what I want from pushing right now.

[sonic violet]

does the PO box that reduces cooldowns negatively affect divine knight's orb ability?

[uncut pier]

divine knight, elemental sorcerer, and your journeyman/voidwalker are the main 3 you'll use, for active or skill buffs from journeyman, or statues and crystals from dk etc so wizard isn't a bad thing to push i think most people use elemental sorcerer for general stuff active

I like my DK but i also spent alot of time on him, and i'm still farming statues for the onyx stuff in w4 you need 20k of each

[zenith hare]

no, unless youre at a talent level of like 253-270

anything above or below itll always be better

within that you lose out on like 2% active efficency

[zenith hare]

please say you arent doing that while not having w5

recommended stats for even thinking about starting that quest is ab 8x dr, 1/100 crystal chance, with choco chip

which gets the first onyx done in 30 hours of active

[sonic violet]

So if it's above 270 it's fine? I'm at 305.
Also are there any classes that would be negatively affected?

[zenith hare]

nope

[latent bramble]

#endgame-chat-w7🐟 message

[uncut pier]

oh no i'm deep i'm farming w6 statues right now, lmao was just not going further than w4 in what i was talking about since this is w3-w4 chat didn't wanna confuse people

[zenith hare]

dk is the closest to being negatively affected by it

which its by a VERY minor amount

[sonic violet]

cool, I've been avoiding upgrading that box specifically, but I'm running out of other boxes to sink points into.

[tepid stump]

anyone got a breeding guide?

(thats less word salad than the pinned one)

[velvet anchor]

Just read 🤷‍♂️

[zenith hare]

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/u/0/d/193tGCv_nJpgleOzQ2jkO9KEpSh8JcOZLdjDolD9Z0FI/htmlview?pli=1# breeding tab

[keen agate]

im doing not much damage on maestro rn, but i need to kill chizoar, anybody know the optimal setup for this? or is maestro just guaranteed to take forever to do this

the damage is uhhh.... subpar....

i havent played in 3 months and dont really remember what i was doing

[zenith hare]

its why skilling is so important on mman

you have two options for damage basically: account wide bonuses, or level up ur w1-3 skills to get more damage

[keen agate]

ok so basically

just level all of my skills and ill fix my horrible damage?

[zenith hare]

and gear ofc

[keen agate]

my skills arent exactly great rn holy

i need to get those fixed

worship 😭

this is the gear im using

[dapper remnant]

question about dk... if i farm orb score, then tp to a different map, do i keep the score?

[rancid furnace]

are kitchen upgrades the only way to increase new recipe chance rather than speed?

[dense vault]

Speed gives more chance in the end

Just wording

[sterile spindle]

when should i start working on my lab?

[quartz jasper]

Can someone explain what the "Fenceyard" actually does, in breeding

im like lv.16 breeding and ive gone up to the goblins, and i still have 0 idea what its supposed to do

the wiki is super unhelpful, lol

[tribal sparrow]

It increases pet Evo chance I think around lvl 20 if u unlock heart type pet next would be shiny at lvl 40.

[quartz jasper]

What is EVO chance? is that like, getting the next pet in the chain?

[quartz jasper]

So if I just dump a bunch of pets in the fence yard, ill breed the next pet faster?

I kinda tried to do that to expairiment, and it went from 1/800 odds to 1/800 odds, so i figured it just. didnt do that, but maybe i wasnt understanding something

[tribal sparrow]

If u have this type of pet.

[quartz jasper]

oh ok, so it doesnt do ANYTHING unless I have a pet whos power is specifically for breeding?

[tribal sparrow]

Yep

[quartz jasper]

OK, thanks dude

[tribal sparrow]

Need heart type so they can do the deed.

[zenith hare]

level 1 worship is why

youre missing out on about 80% damage increase, if not more

due to this

[idle sleet]

what should i make for my first duplicate class? an ES?

[tidal wolf]

yeah es or dk

[idle sleet]

any pros and cons or is it like - doesnt matter they going in the lab anyways

[zenith hare]

dk

mainly for construction

as es does nothing really for afk skills

due to, as you said, lab

[idle sleet]

ok cool he will also have decent mining prints

[zenith hare]

yeah

[idle sleet]

20 levels away from new class pulled everyone out of lab and put them on highest XP zone they can do

[zenith hare]

they should all have their elite class, and map after elites is best map for a while

till like choccies

[tidal wolf]

whats a good total bubble level for mid w3?

[zenith hare]

due to mob density

[zenith hare]

no one measures alchemy in that way, so no clue

id guess maybe 100 or so

[tidal wolf]

oh then how do they measure it

[zenith hare]

which bubbles is unlocked

[tidal wolf]

oh ok

[zenith hare]

early on its which are unlocked, later on its which you focus due to atoms

[tidal wolf]

atoms?

[zenith hare]

late w5 thing

its the last building on top row of construction

[tidal wolf]

yeah but how is it related to alch

[zenith hare]

let me show you

and you get +10 from an ach

[tidal wolf]

ohhh

whats ach

[white path]

achievement

[tidal wolf]

ohh thanks

[idle sleet]

i just got my beastmaster wow i hope they buff it

[zenith hare]

they wont dw, though bm is amazing for breeding

but thats about all he is good for

[tidal wolf]

how do you get shines

*shiny pets

[zenith hare]

you need level 40 breeding

[mild needle]

besides mistle berries what are other catching foods

[dense vault]

How do you get the extra 10 lvls? Mine only goes to 20

[white path]

last superbit in gaming

increases all atom collider bonuses max level by +10

[dense vault]

Oh damn , I was trying to get my plant evo up

[spare fern]

is there any way to recover from not rolling obols before combining? i feel like i need to farm em again now :X - paying triple for rolling is kinda meh

[dense vault]

Just roll the evolved ones

If it's pop should be ok , dice maybe not so that hard to refarm

[spare fern]

hmm k ty

[fossil kayak]

so to add onto Apolo's advice, the rerolled DR stat will carry over when combining obols. Only 1 of the 2 obols need the rerolled buff. Keep that obol in the left slot so it doesn't get trashed if you fail.

[glossy blaze]

anyone have a cooking chart?

[fossil kayak]

Chart for what?

[glossy blaze]

BB cooking

cooking eff

idk

[spare fern]

thats what i came to know about too late - hence i was asking (since i already combined them without rerolling)

idk whats the best way to farm fragments for obols? just gigafrogs on ES or dk for crystals?

[glossy blaze]

dk

[fossil kayak]

W2 crystal farming is your best bet.

Gold Luck obols are worth 9 frags

[young ibex]

!merit4

[candid scarab]

1️⃣ Buy one point of spice spillage. This gives you up to a 20% chance to claim all your spices when claiming over an hour of afk gains. Since spices generate more slowly the more you have produced since last claim this will improve spice production.
2️⃣ Having more bubbles get upgraded each day will help a lot, especially when combined with buffs giving more levels per bubble. Only buy this if you can reach the No Bubble Left Behind node in the lab.
3️⃣ Egg capacity is limited and every time the hatchery fills up eggs are wasted until you unlock the rarity upgrade. Also helps you get two achievements with good rewards requiring egg capacity.
4️⃣ Allows you to connect to lab bonuses from slightly farther away which can reduce the number of characters needed in the lab. Note that the max distance between characters, which is called line width, doesn't increase.
5️⃣ Improves kills per hour in W4 but since you likely won't be pushing W4 portals for long this is relatively low priority.
6️⃣ Max level spice spillage triggers every time. They are lower priority since it takes a lot of star talent points and is likely to trigger several times in a row when checking multiple characters.
7️⃣ 3 crystal mobs per day is very little.
Unlocks the recipes for troll armor giving all stat% and the base for all further armor upgrades. It is great but require plenty of Nullo Salt. Don't buy it if you can't craft them.

[spare fern]

ah great, ty - kinda feels bad to dismantle the golden dice obols now xd

[fossil kayak]

I don't think there is one. Not that I could find at least, should be fairly similar to the ideal Fishing set up. Use fighting gear and cooking boots instead of what's listed here.

Worth checking if the serrated rex or cooking rings get you more ladles per day. There is a point where the rex rings overtake the cooking rings.

[spare fern]

since we'Re talking obols: for vman id go with multikill or luck or weapon dmg?

[fossil kayak]

MK obols only if they are Hypers, otherwise Luck obols are your best bet. Chiz hex and Kruk sparkles if you have them.

[spare fern]

ok ty vm ❤️

[ebon rampart]

(Or just go drop rate obols?)

[spare fern]

you dont get fragments for obols u put on loot filter, right?

[fossil kayak]

DR on vman?

[neon onyx]

anyone wanna dance in w4 (pizza 1) for the achievement?

[spare fern]

would be nice to have a system that allows you to choose what obols you want to auto-salvage

[ebon rampart]

Am I doing something wrong?

[fossil kayak]

Which server?

[neon onyx]

pizza 1

[fossil kayak]

Probably not

[paper crescent]

Is empty just msg or buged?

[neon onyx]

we almost got enough

thanks yall!

[ebon rampart]

Yoo wtf?

[fossil kayak]

I hid it

[spare fern]

is the droprate of the ice event obol affected by my droprate?

[ebon rampart]

Nope. I'm out

[spare fern]

so it kinda makes sense to only join the daily event for the ice event in general if i need those obols, right?

since the other events would take away my daily event loot

[ebon rampart]

If you only want that obol, yes

[agile willow]

getting one of every monster helps with slab

[dawn mortar]

Anyone have suggestions on how to get midnight cookies?

[fossil kayak]

Afk at Moonmen

[spare fern]

w2 crystal mobs for cookies

[dawn mortar]

That's what I'm doing

but with like >24h I've got none

[fossil kayak]

[neon onyx]

farm efaunt? how many do you need

[dawn mortar]

7 more for cp

[fossil kayak]

[agile willow]

cp?

[dawn mortar]

chestplate (or ribcage in this case)

[fossil kayak]

Bad abbreviation

[ebon rampart]

Good save

[agile willow]

do you want to craft an efaunt chestplate for slab or do you want to use it?

[dawn mortar]

to use

[queen violet]

oh fuck i didnt think about this lol

its so bad i forgot it existed

[dawn mortar]

welp, reddit had told me to use it so idk

[agile willow]

if it's taking you too long to craft it, i'd just recraft amarok gear with new world upgrade stones

[dawn mortar]

could be wrong tho

[fossil kayak]

Oof, don't take advice from Reddit

[agile willow]

it's like 95% of the value for 5% of the effort

[dawn mortar]

I could also get dementia prob

[neon onyx]

atleast you can get the armor achievement

[fossil kayak]

Much better

[dawn mortar]

part of the reason why I'm asking here lol

[queen violet]

This. Amarok to dementia then sit on dementia till you get troll armor (world 4 boss).

[tender ocean]

reddit is not an awsome source of info ||(unless the comment if from me ofc)||

[queen violet]

SOme will say get cheezor but with current boosts you dont need it anymore

[agile willow]

dementia chestplate gives defense%, which is pretty good for you as you're pushing new worlds. efaunt chestplate gives mastery%, which is a really useless stat

[fossil kayak]

Mastery is a useless stat. Amarok gear would be more than enough. Metallic armor is good if you like to have a sense of completion

[neon onyx]

void armor and the stage after are useless?

[dawn mortar]

I really need to get my worship up tho lol, I have like no souls

[spare fern]

you can really only buy 2 randoms chips per week, right? thats gonna be tough to get crucial ones like the one for crystal mobs :/

[agile willow]

the upgrade doesn't justify itself

[queen violet]

Nah just not needed. Cheezor comes after void armor. But it resets again at troll armor into world 6

[agile willow]

too much effort for a minimum increase, you better wait for troll gear at that point

[fossil kayak]

Not random. There are places you can see the upcoming rotations.

[dawn mortar]

Also, dementia chestplate doesn't give percent defense

[agile willow]

oh true my bad

[neon onyx]

ok thanks, ill leave my guys at dementia then

[queen violet]

yeh does

wrong reply my bad

[dawn mortar]

thats boots, not chestplate

[queen violet]

I ment to reply earlier that tbf troll armor is hell to get but its needed to start the new armor series into endgame lol

[fossil kayak]

Chiz gear is alright

[queen violet]

And all 3 but chestplate give armor

[agile willow]

efaunt gear is slightly better, but it requires 10x the effort. you don't need efaunt to push, so just do it with dementia

[spare fern]

what obols do you guys use on your bubo? weapon dmg / wisdom until he has enough dmg for endless alchemy?

[agile willow]

drop rate

[fossil kayak]

This

[dawn mortar]

I have efaunt leggings (or whatever they're called), but I don't have the others. Guess I'll try dementia then once I can get enough ingots

[agile willow]

[queen violet]

DR . Pop + Dice and frozen armor boss

[spare fern]

oh, ok

[queen violet]

What does the magma boss obals do? i've heard people using the frost armor but not that one

[agile willow]

they are a better drop rate obol

[queen violet]

oh damn okay nice.

[spare fern]

1 in 3330 base droprate o.O

[queen violet]

Do yourself a favor and dont be stupid like me. Equip all of the pop obals as you farm them. and then start upgrading them lol

[spare fern]

haha, ye im doing that 😄

rare drops from minibosse also multiply with w6 pickles ?

also i can salvage all wisdom obols i take it then?

[agile willow]

no

w6 pickles only affect miniboss deathnote

[spare fern]

there is no use for wisdom and agi obols, right? str maybe for cooking?

[agile willow]

maybe for skilling if you don't have better options

[spare fern]

the skill power obols are generally better though, right?

[agile willow]

yes but they're also rarer

[fossil kayak]

Yep, most of them only drop from the Alchemy Liquid shop.

[spare fern]

i salvaged all of them until i read up on obols =X sadge

[tall goblet]

is it normal for 1000 charge only netting like 15 dune soul cards? am I missing something huge for getting soul cards?

[white path]

completely normal

[spare fern]

what exactly does worship efficiency do? boosts the charge rate? nothing else?

[ionic narwhal]

worship efficiency just increases soul rate

charge rate is not affected

[spare fern]

hmm, ok

[tall goblet]

I hope claiming traps more often increases my card rate 😵‍💫

[snow schooner]

What are the prio breeding upgrades?

[regal parrot]

hey can i convert spesific item to make atom?

[sleek pollen]

only item that goes beyond the limit set by default or by you when the atom collider is built

[mild needle]

Bro HUGE

[sleek pollen]

bro might be a giant

[mild needle]

he also had good loot 1 1hr 1 2hr 1 4hr

[regal parrot]

thx

[sleek pollen]

yeah giant are excellent source of candy and gems

[mild needle]

it is very nice and i didnt plan on using it anyways but now i am

[cold wraith]

thresholds for dr drops are x.01?

[near saddle]

is it safe to discard breeding pets after unlocking the next breed?

[cold wraith]

sometimes you need past pets

like the wave 200 clear setup needs pets like mimic, stick, etc

[near saddle]

including breeding pets? the pink ones i mean

[cosmic glade]

If you never trashed a pet, you would never get past breeding level 5.

Be prepared to sacrifice many

[rotund totem]

should I focus on getting a bm, early w4? I dont have my hunter lvled up with good eq

[heavy oar]

im about to fight blitzkreig is there anything i should know

nvm theres an icelocked video

FUCK i clicked on the portal

[sleek pollen]

yeah you can discard breeder pet after unlocking the next one, no point in keeping it unless you want to do the breedability 3/7 on 2/15 pet achievement but you can do it later

[sleek pollen]

all you need to know is how to kill normal troll

[cold wraith]

i would say get it after you get bubo/dk/es

cus bm boosts your breeding

[strong scarab]

Can I candy time at cooking?

[rancid furnace]

is there a way to tell how many giants you've killed this week? I can't find it on IE

[cold wraith]

no specific number but you can kinda estimate with your giant%

[rancid furnace]

can't you only kill a certain amount a week?

[hoary bloom]

how do i get more wis or accuracy

[cold wraith]

whats your % chance

[rancid furnace]

where do I see that?

crystal mob chance?

[cold wraith]

bottom

[rancid furnace]

1 in 57 where i'm standing

[cold wraith]

then you can get a lot more

[rancid furnace]

cool thank you

[indigo stratus]

Man this is some BS.. i have 4 chests from landing this close to the nametag aswell..

[white path]

thats what u call lucky

i've gotten 0 chests

[forest canyon]

Same

[deep silo]

how rare is the purple frog from trapping? been like 2 days worth of trapping w/o 1

[tribal sparrow]

use silkbox it has shinny chance.

[deep silo]

need a purple frog first......

[tribal sparrow]

use critter food.

[deep silo]

critter food ?

[tribal sparrow]

also use 20 min. for high chance of getting one.

[deep silo]

ah, i use 8hr for overnight

says i need a poison frog to unlock crabbos lol

guess i'm just hard stuck

[white path]

hunter has a talent that increases shiny chance

[deep silo]

yeah i have it lvld

[white path]

if u got any froge cards equip them while collecting

[deep silo]

will do

[hoary bloom]

when am i able to farm the penguin critters

and how rare is the shiny from them

[ionic narwhal]

? you can farm them when you get them

[latent bramble]

do the quest to unlocck them

[sleek pollen]

you unlock new critter as you continue the quest of lord of the hunt

[dusk ledge]

So what is a good first step after getting my first elite class (which in my case will be DK)? Not quite there yet, but getting decently close

Is that when I care about multikill and get my prints up?

[latent bramble]

just rotate people in and out of lab to get all your elites

if you're high enough level to get some points in tab 4, would probably resample

[dusk ledge]

My soon-to-be-DK is 89 atm

[latent bramble]

then you can start pushing through W4 or hang out a bit and gain some levels

[dusk ledge]

about to go to the TV map

I only know this because of the wiki lol, good to know

[latent bramble]

lul, not me just now getting to w4 on my alt the afk journey is long

[dusk ledge]

I statted up my squire and blasted through W3 with candies. I had gotten quite lucky with candies with christmas boxes

cost a decent amount, but I still have quite a few left

Pretty decent progress for a F2P + autoloot in 4ish weeks

.....I think

[latent bramble]

smh candy user, they'll forever stay in the bank

[dusk ledge]

candy + instant dopamine = happy ADHD brain

[latent bramble]

yeah, seems like 5-6 weeks is the new norm for people pushing to w5

[short kite]

Quick question, what am I supposed to do with Obols? I've mostly ignored them since I started playing

Should I recycle all the bronze ones? Or fuse them?

[dusk ledge]

Scare the cat off the W2 altar

I would use them until you get something better, then fuse them. Upgrade them before fusing though, as the fusion will keep the upgrades and bronze are cheaper to upgrade than silver

[short kite]

Upgrade them?

[dusk ledge]

It requires shards you get from recycling

Re-roll, not upgrade, mb

[short kite]

Oh I haven't used the reroll mechanic yet

[tribal sparrow]

this is the last stage right? no need to do more

[terse mauve]

when should i do equinox

like should i do right when i get to world three or wait till i get to world five

[tribal sparrow]

do it at late 5 or at 6.

[dusty apex]

yea once you reach 201 you dont need to continue

[tribal sparrow]

Thanks. I've stopped at 202.

[verbal crow]

is there a limited number of star sign unlock points? Or in other words, if you complete every constellation do you unlock every star sign or do you have to be selective?

[low gyro]

Doing all constellations gives you enough points

[verbal crow]

oh great, I just unlocked a useless side path without thinking lol

[high trail]

Who the hell is this guy?XD

[chilly oasis]

Over here, at 11/14, what's meant by "Trash"? Can you destroy towers for a refund?

I see the trash button, what percentage is refunded?

[rich wren]

good morning

guys

is this normal that i need more than 3 full days of activ farm with ES und suggma to collect this recepie?

i mean i have 3 mio kills there and 18.2% dr

it feels reely strange that i cant get it in this time

[burnt glen]

Luck is not with you this time

Don't worry, i left here my character for 1 month to get the recipe

[zenith hare]

active mk, kill multipliers, and kpk doesn't count to drops

so reduce that number by over 10x

tldr: active sucks late game for drops

rare drops, anyways

as mk scales really high, and active doesn't take mk into account

[rich wren]

so i let him afk farm it?

[zenith hare]

1. candies exist thus faster
2. depends on ur mk

[zenith hare]

then yes

[rich wren]

realy better afk xD?

holy moly and i let him 3 days activ this mf

[zenith hare]

wasting time on getting recipes is never worth it

activing for stuff you can only really get through active is far better

statues as an example

[latent bramble]

gloves aren't even that necessary

[verbal crow]

Just unlocked 3D printer. I assume you max the printer sampling talent on every character?

[chilly oasis]

So the most efficient is to wait 7 days for Dilapidated Slush?

[latent bramble]

nah, not worth the points. just 1 is good

[verbal crow]

really? wow I would have thought it would be better given how OP passivly creating resources seems

[chilly oasis]

On the skilling presets, I maxed on all characters. Except Hunter unless you want Hunter to 3D Print Catching stuff too. For Hunter I have the talent leveled on their Killing preset so they print some monster drops, until I unlock a Jman/Maestro/Vman, who is far better at getting those monster drops.

[latent bramble]

and extra 10% on a 40 sample isn't worth the 100 star talent points

[verbal crow]

I mean, my skilling characters are sampling more then 40. I get your point though

[chilly oasis]

Go to this page, look for the talent, and fudge with the numbers. At 1, you get about 10% output. At 100, you get 17.5%. So the rate of gain is diminishing, not a linear curve. Up to you if you think its worth it. I have gotten to the point maybe mid-W4 where I had a bunch of extra Star Talent Points on all my skilling presets that I just maxed it. You might prioritize other things first, up to you.
https://idleon.wiki/wiki/Special_Talents

[verbal crow]

Ahh, I thought it was linear. Ok cool, thanks for the detailed explanation guys

[chilly oasis]

One more tip, the bot on this server has commands like !chopchart for most of the gathering skills. So if you wanna figure out what's optimal to equip before sampling on your characters, try those commands in #bot-commands

[verbal crow]

nice, I probably don't have 90% of that stuff but the info is still great

[sand osprey]

I don't seem to have enough pet power, is there anyone else that's better I could be using to boost the fight power?

[odd parcel]

Whats the best class for maxing out Deathnote? I heard it was siegebreaker, but i honestly dont know. My ES does the most per hour (afk) currently. So far i have w1/w2 and up to penguins on W3 all eclipse skulls.

[sand osprey]

Figured it out

[dusty apex]

• If you want the fastest combo for a single spice

• If you can't make the above work and just need something to make up the pet power for that one spice

<- row above
<- row you want spice
<- row below (if you got access to it and really desperate)

• Otherwise, if you want an overall spice farming setup for everything it would be this

Spice 1 - 3 (Grasslands - Encroaching forest)

Spice 4 (Tree interior)

Spice 5 - 23 (Stinky sewers - Lullaby airways)

Spice 24 (Dharma mesa)

• I would also suggest getting your blooming axe up as much as possible

[sand osprey]

I don't have the last one unlocked yet

[dusty apex]

the ?

[sand osprey]

I've been going off this image but waiting to replace my snacks for bunnies till I have higher pulls

Yeah

[dusty apex]

yea thats what this is, i just re made it so its easier to read and include the w6 spices

[sand osprey]

I'm guessing the boom box is the best one to go for?

Easiest *

[dusty apex]

there are only 2 converter pets, boom box and panda (which is the last w3 pet so you need boom box to get it anyway)

[sand osprey]

Alright that's what I thought, thank you

[echo radish]

• 1 guide added to the stash

[prime hinge]

!merit4

[candid scarab]

1️⃣ Buy one point of spice spillage. This gives you up to a 20% chance to claim all your spices when claiming over an hour of afk gains. Since spices generate more slowly the more you have produced since last claim this will improve spice production.
2️⃣ Having more bubbles get upgraded each day will help a lot, especially when combined with buffs giving more levels per bubble. Only buy this if you can reach the No Bubble Left Behind node in the lab.
3️⃣ Egg capacity is limited and every time the hatchery fills up eggs are wasted until you unlock the rarity upgrade. Also helps you get two achievements with good rewards requiring egg capacity.
4️⃣ Allows you to connect to lab bonuses from slightly farther away which can reduce the number of characters needed in the lab. Note that the max distance between characters, which is called line width, doesn't increase.
5️⃣ Improves kills per hour in W4 but since you likely won't be pushing W4 portals for long this is relatively low priority.
6️⃣ Max level spice spillage triggers every time. They are lower priority since it takes a lot of star talent points and is likely to trigger several times in a row when checking multiple characters.
7️⃣ 3 crystal mobs per day is very little.
Unlocks the recipes for troll armor giving all stat% and the base for all further armor upgrades. It is great but require plenty of Nullo Salt. Don't buy it if you can't craft them.

[thorn mango]

Pls don't do this in every chat do it in commands

[echo radish]

#bot-commands

[dusty apex]

well glad it could come in handy. figured it was about time someone made it easier to read then that old guide sheet, and then remembered im someone

[prime hinge]

Oh okay I'm sorry

[echo radish]

Very goated of you

[dusty apex]

also making it like that i can change it on the go if the community decides on something else, or new spices are added

[echo radish]

Pin maybe?

[dusty apex]

not a bad idea, but do people still use the other ones until they get atom collider or unlock all the pets?

[echo radish]

If you mean the sheet ones, probably yeah but since the sheet is not pinned it would be nice to have something in pins about spice setups, also a lot of people I think just cba to check sheets lol

[dusty apex]

there is this in the pins but i dont think anyone uses that anymore

[echo radish]

Evryone (me included) forgets this even exists lol

[dusty apex]

so did i until you mentioned pins and i doubled check if something was there

i'll combine both my messages into 1 so all the text is there for the pin would be best

[dusty apex]

alright didnt have a fleeter emoji but all done now, @echo radish how does that look?

[mild needle]

LATE NIGHT GRINDING PAYS OFF

[honest dawn]

nice

not jealous trust

[mild needle]

LOL

[honest dawn]

sigh

[echo radish]

Looks very good
and cleaner then before, very pog

[grand pulsar]

!merit4

[candid scarab]

1️⃣ Buy one point of spice spillage. This gives you up to a 20% chance to claim all your spices when claiming over an hour of afk gains. Since spices generate more slowly the more you have produced since last claim this will improve spice production.
2️⃣ Having more bubbles get upgraded each day will help a lot, especially when combined with buffs giving more levels per bubble. Only buy this if you can reach the No Bubble Left Behind node in the lab.
3️⃣ Egg capacity is limited and every time the hatchery fills up eggs are wasted until you unlock the rarity upgrade. Also helps you get two achievements with good rewards requiring egg capacity.
4️⃣ Allows you to connect to lab bonuses from slightly farther away which can reduce the number of characters needed in the lab. Note that the max distance between characters, which is called line width, doesn't increase.
5️⃣ Improves kills per hour in W4 but since you likely won't be pushing W4 portals for long this is relatively low priority.
6️⃣ Max level spice spillage triggers every time. They are lower priority since it takes a lot of star talent points and is likely to trigger several times in a row when checking multiple characters.
7️⃣ 3 crystal mobs per day is very little.
Unlocks the recipes for troll armor giving all stat% and the base for all further armor upgrades. It is great but require plenty of Nullo Salt. Don't buy it if you can't craft them.

[grand pulsar]

!merit3

[candid scarab]

1️⃣ One point into Telekinetic Storage which has an ability to deposit all items in your inventory into the chest while destroying everything on the ground. This is a great quality of life feature. Skip this if you have the ram companion.
2️⃣ Buy until you have 3 building spots and 3 food slots. This can be between 0 and 2 purchases depending on gem shop purchases. Food slots will help your pusher go faster and 3 building spots is a 50% construction speed boost.
3️⃣ Talent levels are hugely important and the library should be used as much as possible.
4️⃣ The 3D printer will be how you get most of you skilling materials in the future. To make good use of it you need your sample size to be as close to the 90% cap as possible.
5️⃣ Buy the rest. More slots = more better.
6️⃣ Leveling telekinetic storage gives up to +13.6% Carry Cap which is good for afking longer, stamps and crafting, but is not a priority early on.
7️⃣ You won't get enough points to consider buying respawn for a long time by which you will have cleared all W3 portals.
Get the first level when you reach rank 3 on orange salt and get another level each time a new salt reaches rank 3.
⚔️ The last recipe is for the Chizoars Caustic Scarf which is best in slot for a long time giving both damage and respawn. Get this when you can complete the associated task of beating Chizoar with 8 characters. Other recipes are for Chizoar gear. The helmet gives +15% damage and can be considered if you are making purple salt. The other pieces are mediocre but some make the chestplate for 3% damage.

[dusty apex]

@grand pulsar take those to #bot-commands

[grand pulsar]

oh ok! will do so next time

[zinc crater]

Is this slow kills per hour?

Or normal

[dusty apex]

depends who you ask, your going to get very different answers

try to get your accuracy to 1.5x the required amount to get a boost to your squire damage

[indigo stratus]

Peak construction

[dull star]

no DK?

[dusty apex]

guessing they are doing the achievement?

[thorn mango]

Hi white

[dull star]

hi there Reaper

[dusty apex]

or equinox, not sure

[indigo stratus]

Nahh alr done

[thorn mango]

I need to do equinox

[indigo stratus]

Only 3 lvl 70 so farming exp cogs while active statue farming

[dusty apex]

also why are some guys not doing anything?

you know they dont get exp unless making cogs or on the board

[thorn mango]

Should I cog click for the equinox?

[indigo stratus]

🤔 I've seen people just leveling 2 DKs and leaving the rest in the storage once they have exp cogs

[thorn mango]

Yep

[dull star]

if it's for the purple man cogs, yeah

[dusty apex]

no they leave them making cogs, or they are also messing up

[dull star]

if they're not coging then they're wasting their time

[indigo stratus]

I can leave em in lower teir cogs

[dull star]

3 purps 3 reds 1 yellow 1 nooby

[indigo stratus]

I'll definitely keep that in mind ~ see this is useful knowledge not commonly known to newer players.

Thankyou

[deep wigeon]

what acchivement?

[thorn mango]

Cog clicking is so tedious man

[indigo stratus]

I can do this until the 3 red are 70 and then put DK on exp?

[dull star]

Yesterday I spent like 10 minutes putting everything in my board (except directionals) to 90+% exp

there comes a point where cog clicking is faster than reading the effects of all the cogs you got lol

[deep wigeon]

cog clicking?

[dull star]

when one "tick" is enough to give you the first cog, you click collect as soon as possible to get at least 1 cog/second

here one tick is the time needed to count how much progress is given to your cog count

[deep wigeon]

so is shouldent collect cogs everytime i can?

[tall harness]

u should but at some point it becomes impossible

[dusty apex]

do i have enough speed to do it

[tall harness]

bcause too fast

[broken moat]

Anyone know if giant mobs can spawn in afk mode???

[dull star]

nah 7/ticks isn't enough need to go for 20 B)

[dusty apex]

Damn better work on that. Wonder what happens if i use my DK's instead haha

[errant laurel]

DAM BETTER GET TO WORK ON FINISHING THAT

[crimson gull]

My maestro is only level 109 and I realy want Vman what's the best way to level him up. I'm only pushed world 4 for the elite classes all characters are almost full void gear and all above level 100

[zenith hare]

you wont be getting vman when you get class level 150 anyways

vman is gotten ab mid-late w5 time

because of the other requirements

1mill kills on all w1-3 mobs in deathnote (all 10 chars can do this), mman himself must have 12 mill personal kills on gmush, and mman himself must kill chaotic chizoar

[west pilot]

stop you going to crash

[crimson gull]

I have this done already

[zenith hare]

yet youre only in w4? and barely past level 100 on people

the fastest way to level him up is to straight up unlock w5 at ur point and shove him to the first map in w5

as pushing in w4 takes ages on mman to where he levels

[wooden summit]

What’s the max level for engineering at the moment

Is it 17??

[zenith hare]

p sure yeah

[still meadow]

Yooo. I am looking for the guide spreadsheet. Or rather for the guide on how to best certain breeding stages

[sleek pollen]

!guide

[candid scarab]

Mid-Late Game guide for World 3 / 4 / 5:
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/e/2PACX-1vSCepYAs6sNDP4iq6MJNAG1pvFXzfC_3IQ7ttt5vfEEKAgQhIk4cQqnLRyeH6UyqDSuP4R-6WQeDmmP/pubhtml
Video Guides (by GriffyBit):
https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLVGSDQs1AcvjYTAPtYV6ofbeeEfHpEcb4

[still meadow]

Thanks.

[broken path]

I got 3k froge but no poison froge, im at 5.8% shiny but if it was true i should have had closer to 175 poison froge.
Any tips what im doing wrong?

[upper veldt]

Why is it that i need an arena entry token to utilize arena spirit

[zenith hare]

it's based on traps claimed, not critters gained

[zenith hare]

because all the talent does is prevent the arena usage for the day to not be used

[still meadow]

Okay, so what i can see is - on later breeding stages you don't even run burger at all since it gets oneshot anyway, and you rather try to block the attacks with your shields?

[zenith hare]

you'd rather do the latter anyways, it's just in arena it's impossible to get it up and running without needing a tank

[broken path]

Thats annoying, and i put down atleast 50 in the past 3 days, so i guess im very unlucky

[zenith hare]

it's just how it is sometimes

[broken path]

Stuff like that had me quit maplestory, but atleast its just thats skill and the rest can be afkd

[worthy sail]

https://i.imgur.com/deEnGGF.png How do i get the infinite star signs that are skipped? (I have already cloudsaved this is over multiple days)

[true knot]

keep leveling shinies, inf stars unlock in a peculiar order

[still meadow]

Don't have a single one :c

[slim mantle]

Its just early on as ur lacking shiny critter chance, later u can guarantee to get one every trap up to I think it is 118 iirc per trap with the prayer

[simple flame]

I saw that there's an equinox thing for sampling a red frisbee, does that mean you can sample any rare drop?

[tender ocean]

red frisbee is a base drop

[simple flame]

I meant rare base drops not rare drop tables

[tender ocean]

no you can't, you can print frisbee bec it's a base drop

base drop is like sporecap for gmush, the first item on a mob cards drop table, the rest of the drops are rare drops. and red frisbee is the first drop so it means it's a base drop that you can print and is affected by multikill

[simple flame]

oh ok thanks

[rocky jacinth]

Should i get 2 BB or 2 ES?

[warm valve]

Guys, how to get poison froge?

[sleek pollen]

shiny critter of froge, shiny critter chance%, hunter talents, luck (in general) and better traps like silksin trap

[warm valve]

I don't have a hunter class, how do I get it?

[sleek pollen]

archer -> hunter

what are your classes that you currently have @warm valve

[robust marsh]

Hello I am at mammoths in w3 my carecter isn't able to hit the mammoths all the time and I am taking a little bit of damage what should I do after this map ?

I have amarok armour with Viking helmet on my barbarian that is level82

[warm valve]

Shaman,Squire,barbarian,Wizard,Bowman, and Journyman

[sterile spindle]

get fmj and shacuracy bubles up on alchemy its green and oranghe buble

[robust marsh]

Ok

[sterile spindle]

they give accuracy and defense

[robust marsh]

Whats fmj?

[sterile spindle]

its called fmj

[robust marsh]

Ok

Do you have any tips for increasing mining efficiency?

[sleek pollen]

oof maybe should've done Jman as 7th or later as he's kinda useless early on and is practically worse at everything than other char

so try to level your char asap maybe to unlock 7th slot for hunter

[sterile spindle]

get mining gear and cards

upgrade bubbles that give mining efficiency

[fallen crescent]

Cards, STR, golden peanuts, alchemy, leveling your talents, various other bonuses throughout the game (mostly after w4 though)

[robust marsh]

Can I get some more info on mining gear

[robust marsh]

What cards should I use?

[warm valve]

only hunter class can really get the poison froge?

[sterile spindle]

!minechart

[candid scarab]

Created by u/TrazCS

[fallen crescent]

Any card giving afk gain, skill efficiency, mining efficiency and str

basifally that chart tho! i forgot it existed

[sleek pollen]

nono he just have trapping talent that increase trapping efficiency and another for more shiny chance

[robust marsh]

Thanks that's all I wanted to know

[sleek pollen]

20min trap are the best for whhen needing shiny en masse, tho it'd be kinda painful for you to go fetch each and every single trap on all your char without hunter if you did put traps on all

[fallen crescent]

If you want more indepth things, look at the chart above, following that is really all you need to know— also make sure you upgrade your stamps, theyre very valuable

[robust marsh]

I almost forgot that they existed

Stamps I never payed much attention to them

[warm valve]

okay, it's been a few days because there's still no poison frog, so I'm wondering why there isn't any

[fallen crescent]

start doing that! they all give very valuable bonuses, it might not seem like a lot but theyre really good

[robust marsh]

!fishchart

[candid scarab]

Created by TrazCS#7476

[sterile spindle]

its difficult at first to remember to do everything but slowly yoll get into the groove opf things

[robust marsh]

Thanks for the help stranger

[robust marsh]

Ye I just started playing it for Time pass but I really like it now

[fallen crescent]

Of course man

[warm valve]

thanks, I'll try mine later because I always do 8

[fallen crescent]

yeah in the beginning its really rough getting shinies, aa you upgrade your traps and various other bonuses, youll have a lot more chance at getting them

if 20 minutes is too much of a hassle, you could always do the 1hr ones, its what im using rn, i cba to do 20min ones

[sleek pollen]

you get as much shiny from a 20min trap as you'd get from a 8 hours so might as well do 20min IF you can claim them consistently (with hunter he has a talent to collect all traps placed)

[warm valve]

yes, I need poison frog for the next trap

[fallen crescent]

goodluck with the rng then i suppose 🙏🏽

[paper wolf]

just got to the troll fight for the first time.... not what i was expecting but cool ig lol

[sleek pollen]

I mean he is a Troll so ofc he gon do troll things

[warm valve]

Thanks

[warm valve]

Thanks for the info

[indigo stratus]

[fallen crescent]

[hexed shoal]

Is this a good way to set bubo skills?

[upper veldt]

How do u collect dna

[hexed shoal]

Dna splicer from w4 shop

Then when you claim afk gains it gives you the spilce option

Each world has its own splicer

[upper veldt]

What splice option

[hexed shoal]

Splicer from shop is for w1

[upper veldt]

Yeah I got that

Well the but the splicer part is am confused on that specifically does and how to get it to do it's job. Am also confused on what the green DNA looking thing is in the breeding?

[deep wigeon]

then i afk in w1 and can choose dna option when claiming reward

[hexed shoal]

Is my bubo build good?

[tender ocean]

where is the ES

[rancid furnace]

das a bubo

[hexed shoal]

My bad i just got used yo es lmao

Anyways is it good or no?

[tender ocean]

it is a bit all over the place

[rancid furnace]

you have alot of focus on the active cranium cooking side of bubo but his level and max talent points are too low to make efficient use of that

[cerulean vale]

Any recommeded setups for spice farming? I'm starting to struggle to meet requirments on Spirit fields

[rancid furnace]

i'd focus more on maxing your attack talents and afk skills for now so you can level him and respec for active bubo at a higher level personally

[rancid furnace]

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/193tGCv_nJpgleOzQ2jkO9KEpSh8JcOZLdjDolD9Z0FI/edit?gid=1286504271#gid=1286504271 the breeding tab on this has some good setups

[tender ocean]

page 1 fine, page 2 fine, page 3 remove points from statue, only invest like 25, highly doubt you have good statues. focus cranium cooking or your aura more, don't need spell 1 and 3. page 4 first 2 talents have a priority, talent 3 not, respawn hand is good but low level is also fine and invest last points in the last talent

on page 1, if he is active, then you don't need afk gains leveled too

[spare fern]

what does this key mean?

[tender ocean]

unlock w3 pets

[rancid furnace]

it means you'll unlock the sheepie when you get him

[deep wigeon]

that it unlocks w3 pets

[ebon rampart]

Not sure if anybody said it already, but that means you can breed the next world pets

[spare fern]

ah ok, im at a 1 in 14 chance and failed the last 40-50 taps xD

was wondering if its locked or sth

[deep wigeon]

should i capture critters with drone or hunter skill?

[rancid furnace]

nah just unlucky unfortunately

[tender ocean]

actually smart, haven't thought of it

[hexed shoal]

Ik thats why i have low points in cranuim

[slim forum]

Is there any guides for TD at the moons

[rancid furnace]

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/193tGCv_nJpgleOzQ2jkO9KEpSh8JcOZLdjDolD9Z0FI/edit?gid=1286504271#gid=1286504271 tower defence section of this doc

[sinful rose]

bubo lv 104 so weak ToT

who have any tips ?

[steep echo]

guys ive got a question,i got a lvl 50 squire which is my first ever character and hes been mining for some long time,do i keep him on mining or do i make him go fight and level up?

[cosmic glade]

Probably go push through worlds. You don't want to leave your characters skilling for too long. Later bonuses will make lower levels trivial.

Most characters are best used to fight, or afk lab/divinity/hole. Beginner secret class typically stays skilling for most of the time.

[dreamy sleet]

with four pet slots what can i do to unlock more pet slots in pet arena?

[vestal ether]

So just to make sure, shrines reset progress whenever you change maps? So you want to finish leveling it up before moving?

[indigo stratus]

Ideally

If it doesn't take too much time

[ebon rampart]

In World 4 you will get an upgrade that lets you level shrines from every map in one world
World 5 will give you the shrine bonuses everywhere
And World 6 will give you the ability to move them without losing any progress

So it will get easier and easier managing your shrines 🫡
Don't stress it too much right now, but if you can get an easy level on it then definitely try to finish that

[hybrid apex]

can someone explain the discrepancies between these two descriptions?? (in game vs wiki)

it is very confusing. I just unlocked this upgrade haha

[ebon rampart]

This will get automatically deposit once my daily reset occurs, but only when I log into that character

[hybrid apex]

I see, so the first time you log into a character on a new day, it will deposit once.

but it's not limited to ONE character

that was where I got confused.

[visual gyro]

Is this the last floor?

[ebon rampart]

How I think it works:
When you log into a character after the daily reset it tries to deposit all anvil items that are full (without giving you your Anvil progress yet) -> Then it gives you the afk progress for the anvil items and in the best case fills it up -> Then they will be in your anvil until the next daily reset occurs or when you manually deposit them

[lime pumice]

yeah, go meet him at the rift!

[ebon rampart]

Yesn't
It's the last floor for this mastery -> Need to get to rift 56 to get further in sneaking

[visual gyro]

Nothing there

[visual gyro]

Oh

[lime pumice]

sorry his answer was better 😅

[visual gyro]

It's fine lol

[atomic flower]

!merit3

[candid scarab]

1️⃣ One point into Telekinetic Storage which has an ability to deposit all items in your inventory into the chest while destroying everything on the ground. This is a great quality of life feature. Skip this if you have the ram companion.
2️⃣ Buy until you have 3 building spots and 3 food slots. This can be between 0 and 2 purchases depending on gem shop purchases. Food slots will help your pusher go faster and 3 building spots is a 50% construction speed boost.
3️⃣ Talent levels are hugely important and the library should be used as much as possible.
4️⃣ The 3D printer will be how you get most of you skilling materials in the future. To make good use of it you need your sample size to be as close to the 90% cap as possible.
5️⃣ Buy the rest. More slots = more better.
6️⃣ Leveling telekinetic storage gives up to +13.6% Carry Cap which is good for afking longer, stamps and crafting, but is not a priority early on.
7️⃣ You won't get enough points to consider buying respawn for a long time by which you will have cleared all W3 portals.
Get the first level when you reach rank 3 on orange salt and get another level each time a new salt reaches rank 3.
⚔️ The last recipe is for the Chizoars Caustic Scarf which is best in slot for a long time giving both damage and respawn. Get this when you can complete the associated task of beating Chizoar with 8 characters. Other recipes are for Chizoar gear. The helmet gives +15% damage and can be considered if you are making purple salt. The other pieces are mediocre but some make the chestplate for 3% damage.

[atomic flower]

!merit4

[candid scarab]

1️⃣ Buy one point of spice spillage. This gives you up to a 20% chance to claim all your spices when claiming over an hour of afk gains. Since spices generate more slowly the more you have produced since last claim this will improve spice production.
2️⃣ Having more bubbles get upgraded each day will help a lot, especially when combined with buffs giving more levels per bubble. Only buy this if you can reach the No Bubble Left Behind node in the lab.
3️⃣ Egg capacity is limited and every time the hatchery fills up eggs are wasted until you unlock the rarity upgrade. Also helps you get two achievements with good rewards requiring egg capacity.
4️⃣ Allows you to connect to lab bonuses from slightly farther away which can reduce the number of characters needed in the lab. Note that the max distance between characters, which is called line width, doesn't increase.
5️⃣ Improves kills per hour in W4 but since you likely won't be pushing W4 portals for long this is relatively low priority.
6️⃣ Max level spice spillage triggers every time. They are lower priority since it takes a lot of star talent points and is likely to trigger several times in a row when checking multiple characters.
7️⃣ 3 crystal mobs per day is very little.
Unlocks the recipes for troll armor giving all stat% and the base for all further armor upgrades. It is great but require plenty of Nullo Salt. Don't buy it if you can't craft them.

[atomic flower]

!merit5

[candid scarab]

1️⃣ W5 skill XP will speed up the divinity grind since it helps unlock stronger styles faster.
2️⃣ Aim to keep the loot pile capacity greater than your ship count so you can claim two entire cycles at once without waste.
3️⃣ Mob respawn will help afk kills in W5.
4️⃣ Total all stats will slightly improve most things. Don't buy it if you don't have the star talent points to use it.
5️⃣ Tab 4 talent points can be scarce but you only get 3 per purchase and there are a lot of other ways to get them including class lvls, skill lvls and the alchemy bubbles.
⚛️ The Atom Collider is the last building on the top row of construction requiring Nullo Salt and 10s of millions of resources to use. The discount should be bought before you start buying atom upgrades.
⚔️ The last boss recipe is The Divine Scarf which is among the best items in the game and reasonably easy to craft. This recipe should be gotten as soon as the task of beating nightmare Kruk on all characters can be completed. Earlier recipes are for armor and weapons most of which gives mob respawn significantly improving kills per hour. Get these if you can afford to craft them.

[calm vault]

#bot-commands amigo

[atomic flower]

w?

[vestal ether]

What upgrade in w4 is that? I'm partly in it, so it might be nice to work towards.

[ebon rampart]

It is in lab the 6th upgrade. The right upgrade on my screenshot