midgame-chat-w3🧊w4🔮

[still oxide]

Eh not really unless you're going to do an extended skilling run

[zinc crater]

I don't think it's worth it tbh. Thx

[deep wigeon]

400 more kills an hour on this map

[pure helm]

useing the skill ya its a tiny bit of free XP, using the card god no.

[still oxide]

Like if you leave your mage on chopping for a week to a month

[pure helm]

Just set it up once on each char and forget it exists.

[still oxide]

Pretty much

[zinc crater]

It steals exp from skilling though?

[real tulip]

is there any point to keep labbing once I can reach all the nodes available to me?

[still oxide]

Remember to only have that skilled up if you choose to on your right hand skill preset

[deep wigeon]

ohh, passive means i dont have to equip this right?

[still oxide]

Yes

[still oxide]

Yes I actually have a spare person because I have so much width

[deep wigeon]

by line width do the mean the lenght or how thicc it is, cuz i dont se how chubby lines gonna help me...

[ionic narwhal]

More lab level. You’ll be needing it

[slim mantle]

It sounds like it does but it doesn't, just adds class xp based on the skill xp. Still a joke of a talent tho

[still oxide]

I guess if it were lenght it would be going upwards or downwards but since it's sideways width is used

Make sense?

[deep wigeon]

that would be height no? so it is ment as lenght then

[still oxide]

Yes I know length could still have been used but hey it's lava

Its a thin wide line

[real tulip]

https://tenor.com/view/critical-role-crit-role-cr-c1-arsequeef-gif-17244403

[mild needle]

PAIN

[deep wigeon]

new char?

[mild needle]

nah thats my main wood harvester

[deep wigeon]

how he that bad... what u do to him...

[slim mantle]

[mild needle]

AHAHAHHAHAHAHAH

thats the right class

[slim mantle]

Wrong preset? Xd

[mild needle]

no

thats the right one

[deep wigeon]

why are u putting him trough this suffering

[mild needle]

why not

ya know

[deep wigeon]

total waste of time

[mild needle]

yeah

Hol up we making stuff

[still oxide]

More like stubby width and girth no length

[balmy gulch]

is w4 mob suppose to be a extremely big jup
most character is struggling for the first map

[uneven obsidian]

yes they supposed to be a jump, a jump that lava just nerfed too XD

[balmy gulch]

HOLY

[deep wigeon]

lenght isent a direction thats height

[deep wigeon]

ye, had same issue had to shrine my way to elites

[still oxide]

But he didn't use the term length or height he used width which is wide

Wide would work better than length

[uneven obsidian]

one would know better by now than to make sense of lavalogic

[still oxide]

In the terms of how lava worded it

[still oxide]

I can still speculate

[mild needle]

DRIP

Better

[still oxide]

Drip Drop?

[deep wigeon]

equip birch tree card and u will set

[mild needle]

.......

[deep wigeon]

the chosen one

[still oxide]

What wc skill cards do you have?

[kind valve]

how to get higher pet power?

[still oxide]

There is a couple of sources

One is meal one is your bm's skill

[mild needle]

need an extra

[still oxide]

When I had to still equip wc cards I started with the later worlds first and worked backwards in equipping them

Focus on wc eff with the cards if you're not doing afk

With doing afk focus on afk skill gains

With the eff

[mild needle]

With foods and im willing to work with this

With a dem axe

I would make a void but not high enough anvil

[deep wigeon]

soon beating my archers

[still oxide]

Oh also don't forget to check your keychains

And your card sets

[mild needle]

Uh oh

[still oxide]

No not that but I think there is a skill amulet and the rox ring

[mild needle]

Yeah issue as risen

[still oxide]

Yea there is skill eff and afk skill gain keychains

[mild needle]

im gonna look into those

[still oxide]

Idk if there is any specificly for wc

Like the mining ones

[zealous flare]

quick question about the first quest for the worms guy

does all 1.54k of space need to be filled at the same time?

ie can i pick up items from the mob drops and it still count

[still oxide]

Yes

[still oxide]

No you cant

[zealous flare]

mildly irritating, alright thanks mate x

[still oxide]

You have to turn your autoloot off

[zealous flare]

havent even bought it

which reminds me i probably need to but i need to get the money for it first

[mild needle]

auto loot is a game changer ngl

[uneven obsidian]

you'll probably also want to drop stuff for the last few spot to get covered

[zealous flare]

if i wasn't a desparate uk student i'd have it already 🫠

[mild needle]

yeah fair

[still oxide]

I know the feeling it was a pain I'm on the one that wants 1 gs of wurm tails

[zealous flare]

damn

sounds fun that

(i don't think i even have a single green stack atm)

[zealous flare]

bloooooooody hell

so that's what i have to look forward to then

[still oxide]

There is one element from RS..... the GS

Rs items gs at 10m

Lol

[zealous flare]

gs here is 10m too right?

[still oxide]

Yes

[zealous flare]

closest gs for me atm lmao

[broken moat]

omg the Maestro quest is simply insane

i am prrety close to finish it but it takes weeks

[uneven obsidian]

which part is giving you trouble ?

[still oxide]

The first one is before and one is after

Some quick candy flipping

[zealous flare]

good grief

[still oxide]

Hehehehe

[zealous flare]

fully jealous rn lmao

[uneven obsidian]

the gs also get burned everytime you do the quest

[zealous flare]

so you have to redo it?

[broken moat]

the progression to Snelbie map

[uneven obsidian]

shouldn be all that hard to reach that point compared to other requirement really

[zealous flare]

for me the problem is the levels in the quests more so than anything

[mild needle]

Its ight

[zealous flare]

think i'm one or two levels off completing

the first part at least

[still oxide]

@zealous flare easy come easy go

[broken moat]

it still takes a few hours per map

[zealous flare]

blimey

[still oxide]

Now I want to cry not because the NM Troll is hard......... it's the FORKING KEEEEEYYYYYYYYYSSSSSSSSSS

[cold wraith]

cry

[still oxide]

Thats 6k keys

[broken moat]

is there anything i can do to get multikill in w2?

[cold wraith]

deathnote unlocked w3

[broken moat]

i did

with my other chars

[velvet anchor]

Little bit of es farming

[latent bramble]

if you have DN unlocked then you just need more damage to enable multikill

[velvet anchor]

2x the monsters health

[cold wraith]

guess what

[velvet anchor]

What

[still oxide]

Yes there is dont let that x react lie to you.... you kill efaunt so you can go to world 3 and unlock it and then have your minimum damage be double all your w2 mobs

[cold wraith]

chicken butt

[velvet anchor]

Stinky butt

[cold wraith]

im finally doing td

[velvet anchor]

Damn really could not let me catch up for once 😂

Imma do rift well I grind terraria

[still oxide]

What's what you can do to get multikill in w2

[cold wraith]

ive honestly done nothing the past 2 weeks except statue and bubo grind

been so lazy

[velvet anchor]

No you need death note unlocked

[velvet anchor]

You play terraria

[still oxide]

Yes but you have to kill efaunt to get to w3 so you can unlock the DN

[cold wraith]

somewhat

[velvet anchor]

Yep

[still oxide]

Yes

[cold wraith]

i have it but never really took the time to beat it

[velvet anchor]

lol I’m doing a stupid run rn

[still oxide]

So that's what he can do to get MK in w2

[velvet anchor]

Yea but no longer w2

[still oxide]

Lol

[still oxide]

I gave the whole thing "Yes there is dont let that x react lie to you.... you kill efaunt so you can go to world 3 and unlock it and then have your minimum damage be double all your w2 mobs"

I did include the missing piece with the hp of the mobs and your min damage

[velvet anchor]

Min damage got non to do with it

You need your max damage double the monster hp to get 1x kills

[steady cove]

What rough team power is needed to get to arena 50? Mimic, Crab, Slime, boar

[mild needle]

Catching preset...

Drip is drippy

[still oxide]

If your min is double your more than likely have a 2× or 3×

Example

It may sound stupid and harder but doubling your min is a bit better than double the max

You'll get a better multi

[cold wraith]

bomboclaat

[tall harness]

what's he point of these ss? Mobs have different hp so different dmg for tiers?

[sinful rose]

guys where is scorpie trap

i cant find it

[tall harness]

https://idleon.wiki/wiki/Trapping

[sinful rose]

i go correct location but i can't find it

[tall harness]

u need to do quest then iirc

unlock critter

[still oxide]

Its an example on why it's better to double the mobs health with your minimum damage vers doubling the mobs hp with the max

[sinful rose]

oh my bad sorry

[tall harness]

how? only max matters...?

[still oxide]

For a better multi. This person thinks so
#midgame-chat-w3🧊w4🔮 message

If you do the min instead of the max you'll have a better multi

[tall harness]

I can't see any single spot where ur min dmg is mentioned in multi calculation

[still oxide]

.... it's where I have to compare my min to the mobs hp like here

My min is double that hp

[tall harness]

ok, but how is this helping when literally ur max dmg triggers mk?

[still oxide]

Yes your max triggers it. i didn't say it didn't. i was only saying it's better to look at the min being double the mob's hp

So you're guaranteed a better multi

[tall harness]

so u saying that ur min dmg being higher means ur max dmg being higher, resulting in better mk??

[still oxide]

Yes

Because as here where my min is double I'm closer to a 3×

To where here it's just my max being double the hp I'm between 1× and 2×

[deep wigeon]

should i be finishing quests? was good at it in w1, but havent rly been doing them since halfway into w2

[tall harness]

but why complicate it, just use this assesment, easy and simple

[tall harness]

only quests u may want to not finish on several alts are ones that make mob to drop some quest items u may want to greenstack later

[still oxide]

Like the ketchup and mustard from the picnic

Or the corp subs and tube subs quests

[deep wigeon]

so try doing them, but make sure not do miss opertunities to green stack basicly?

[still oxide]

Oh did you get in the w1 sewers

[deep wigeon]

ye

[tall harness]

ye like do them on a few chars but leave on preferably dk and bubo ig

[still oxide]

Even in the map past the dr?

[deep wigeon]

ok, thx. i know i got nothing done on one dk and es atleats... they havent even killed first boss...

[deep wigeon]

ye killed white poos

[mild needle]

im getting to vm quests the first quest is THE WORST

[still oxide]

I actually didn't till late w3

[toxic kayak]

@latent bramble wooo! thanks for the gaming advice, finally unlocked evergreen

[deep wigeon]

i had my barb live there while pushing w2

technically it wasent even a push... all my chars where just farming random stuff.. pusher was lvling up

[balmy pagoda]

Does strenght really not increase fishing per hour that much? ;-

[still oxide]

Work on your fishing bubbles and vials

[mild needle]

my main character rn is farming deathnote kills

[deep wigeon]

u can see the diff it makes for u in afk gains when u are fishing

[deep wigeon]

all my characters are stuck in a lab

[balmy pagoda]

Ye im watching that everytime i try new card or item, and strenght barely or doesnt at all increase that. But i will work on alchemy more, thank you

[mild needle]

look at vm first quest on the idleon wiki

lol

[deep wigeon]

the 12mil mushroom kills?

[mild needle]

yeah then the next

the deathnote one

[deep wigeon]

only know the kills do it get worse?

[mild needle]

just a couple

[deep wigeon]

think killing 12mil mushrooms with just maestro will be way worse, death not w2 is already finished for me basicly

[mild needle]

my deathnote is bad because i pushed without farming so i only have about 50k or more on them

i do havce 1m neytunes

[deep wigeon]

i will check mine soon

just gotta kill a giant turd first

[mild needle]

Yeah lol

[deep wigeon]

he killed me instead oof

[still oxide]

I did that for a time I also mass lvled my people so they can survive being pushed through w6

[mild needle]

such nice colors lol

[still oxide]

Those gmush was the easiest with my es it crep over 100m because that's where I tend to farm the event drops

The last one I don't count

[mild needle]

Its just thats SO MANY APOCOLYPSES made

[deep wigeon]

not looking to bad still 46 lvls away from quest anyway

[still oxide]

Wow your yum yum is further along that your w1

[mild needle]

DAMN world 2 begging for help

[still oxide]

Thats the better of the 3

[mild needle]

Is this included in w3 deathnote

[still oxide]

Yes

[deep wigeon]

have fun that place dedly

[still oxide]

That goes towards the equinox

[mild needle]

i dont die ive maxed out

[deep wigeon]

yup, tried getting ther, but if they touch me, i die, if io touch them they die.. so kind of a stale mate still

[mild needle]

i do it eventually

ima bully

[deep wigeon]

worst part is, wont even get that much use for this... such a waste of precious gems

[still oxide]

Well by what mob is that for?

[mild needle]

rams

the portal wtf

[deep wigeon]

yup and when u get trough the mobs are beefy

[mild needle]

HOLY CRAP

500k kills an hr thats 2 hours then done

[still oxide]

You'll get here eventually and by then I might be closer to 750k to 1m

[mild needle]

i think im going to get full void armor then fight troll

[tall harness]

no lol

[grand flare]

im looking at the cogs for construction and i dont think ive ever seen any that isnt broken or double / triple is that normal?

[still oxide]

Also when you get to the honker critters they are in the top right of the ram map

[mild needle]

does upgrading shrines increase the buff

so dont upgrade for the damage buff but to increase the exp

Need 1 lvl of war to start roots

[deep wigeon]

do this rly do nothing?

[still oxide]

I've not done that yet

[hardy cove]

200 batteries hit me like a freight train

[hardy cove]

you need to make it level 2 for equinox so buy the pickle daily

[mild needle]

🙂

YAY

[white path]

need to get it to level 2 for equinox but other than that nothing

[dull lion]

what is the best team here

[twin bay]

didnt u ask this yesterday

[dull lion]

no that was for territories

[slim mantle]

peapod looter gap refiller gap borger

[twin bay]

yo occido

[slim mantle]

[twin bay]

i hit 200m damage, and killed chaotic kattle

[slim mantle]

haven't you been w6 for ages?

[twin bay]

uhm

not ages but like

[white path]

1 month

[slim mantle]

long enough for more dmg :p

[twin bay]

i mean im still tryna get a bunch of nutella salt fo rthe weapon after the green sword, and w6 tab, i was focusing on getting krakens and the w6 tab more than damage cause i didnt know how i could

[slim mantle]

don't need gear improvements for what I'm talking about :p just summoning and farming

[pine fiber]

maaan, 3rd

[twin bay]

if it aint in quick ref i alr forgot about it,ive been focusing on sneaking, and summoning whenever i remember

idk how im supposed to do farming better so i just kinda leave it untill i remember to collect it

[slim mantle]

just clollect as often as u can gets u a long way :p more crops found = more dmg

it adds up :p

[mild needle]

This will be helpful vm when i get there

[slim mantle]

ehh depends, it can harm u and when it doesn't harm u the gain doesn't tend to be big

[twin bay]

nah screw farming worship is 1000% my most igrnored skill.

i cant even quick worship anything past rooted souls

[slim mantle]

stop neglecting

[twin bay]

nah, id forget

[fiery smelt]

that looks nice. I'm really having trouble with frosty firefight... must have a lot more upgraded towers I guess :/

[north compass]

its pretty bad, the kills just add on to multikill

[fiery smelt]

I see. Not that great then I guess

[north compass]

so if you have 1k multikill and use this you would just be at 1030% multikill

[fiery smelt]

I'm generally at numbers closer to 100% multi kill though ;)

currently pushing donuts on my 8th character with 119% multi

[twin bay]

hi tokito

[fiery smelt]

the tower defense maps before frosty firefight at least felt "fair", with frosty I instantly feel like I'm losing control. Those mobs that stun your towers are horrible

[north compass]

hi sushi

[north compass]

yea very annoying early

[zenith hare]

just place towers roughly a tower distance apart

[fiery smelt]

yeah that should help. I just unlocked the poisonic elder, but currently my boulder towers seem to be more effective at least at the start

[north compass]

yea boulder is better until you level poisonic

[fiery smelt]

yeah, my construction rate is not fast enough to realistically do that though

26 hours for 1 upgrade of poisonic

meanwhile I still haven't figured out why I can't place the 5th trap for some of my characters :{

[spiral kayak]

Hey legends, Where can I find the best setup for Spice production within breeding?

[slim mantle]

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/u/0/d/193tGCv_nJpgleOzQ2jkO9KEpSh8JcOZLdjDolD9Z0FI/htmlview#

[rancid furnace]

For breeding do multi's like gene boost only increase new pet chance or pet power too?

[slim mantle]

Only new pet chance and shiny chance (when u get to that)

[rancid furnace]

Ty!

[pine fiber]

just found my first chizoar blankie

[vast vault]

hey guys, any tips for increasing my ladles/day. The most i've been able to get is 2900 and that's with all my afk items. At this rate t will still take me about a month to get the 100k ladles for equinox.

[agile willow]

multitool stamp and laddle stamp helps

skill efficiency shiny breeding pets are also helpful

[white lintel]

Chows too

[vast vault]

i have most of my chows but only a few super chows, should i get those done before going for ladles?

[white lintel]

Super chows are only for speed

[vast vault]

ahh i see

[agile willow]

if you can do them you should before using the laddles, you'll get more progress that way

[vast vault]

ok good info. thanks guys

[surreal fern]

is there any Looter ability that deletes all shields?

or did I encounter a bug? bc my shields and even attacks randomly dissappear

[deep wigeon]

can all items that stack be green marked?

[agile willow]

yes

some aren't realistic to greenstack but they are theorically possible

[deep wigeon]

like super rare mob drops and stuff?

[agile willow]

yes

or daily stuff

i like to joke that i'm trying to greenstack dootophones, but it is impossible to do it as it takes like 100 years

[broken moat]

God i really hope this Maestro quest is worth it

It takes me weeks

[hoary pebble]

Is there such a thing as 100% card drop chance? Like, guaranteedly getting card drops.

[broken moat]

I got a card that give 40% alone

[slim mantle]

Looter proccing the alchemic skill (turning all attacks into skulls)

[agile willow]

i think after some dr killing bosses gives a card guaranteed

[broken moat]

W1 cars gives 40% w2 gives 20% and w3 gives 10%

Gigafrog os best

For card bonus

[hoary pebble]

I can get around 70% chance from cards and then I have the stamp at 80%. But I figured it's not a thing because otherwise I'd be getting them every single time if both of these percentages added up to well over 100%.

[agile willow]

these are + percentages, if you get +100% that means your base 5% card chance became a 10% card chance

[hoary pebble]

Makes sense, thanks.

[sand osprey]

How do you get higher pet power? I haven't gotten higher than like a 38k

Im on my hunter too

[agile willow]

higher egg rarity and higher breeding lvl

[sand osprey]

Is there a specific shiny pet maybe?

Thats it or is there something else

[agile willow]

that's it afaik, you can look it up in idleon insight

[sand osprey]

Alright thank you

[velvet anchor]

wormhole attasck doesnt work for the 500 in 5 minutes for rift 4?

oh nvm it does

god dammnit i got to 475 and it reset

k a got it

[cerulean meteor]

are chizoar leggings worth?

[zenith hare]

no not really

[indigo stratus]

Depends… but usually no

[zenith hare]

keep it at void

[cerulean meteor]

makes me regret crafting them

[zenith hare]

slab

[cerulean meteor]

may i ask why

they are not worth why?

[indigo stratus]

Waste of resources

[zenith hare]

because they just don't give too much more then what void already does for you at an expensive cost

[cerulean meteor]

ah ok.

but the chestpiece and helmet do despite requiring purple salts?

[zenith hare]

because they have an actually useful stat up and they're far cheaper

they require common mats

compared to boots and legs needing rare mats

[cerulean meteor]

blood bones require me to get to equinox tho

do they not?

[zenith hare]

and that's why chiz gear is recommend for mid/late w5

you get equin by mid w4 anyways

[cerulean meteor]

well, i not at it yet haha

[indigo stratus]

Wow your spitting facts

[zenith hare]

!gear

[candid scarab]

Gear Recommendations

[cerulean meteor]

still need 200k kills

that is what happens when i go ahead of the guide lol

why is my reset being pushed back constantly?

[zenith hare]

desync

[cerulean meteor]

k, tho i dont think that would make 3 hours worth of difference, correct me if im wrong tho

[zenith hare]

if you have 3 hours of desync, yes

cloud save basically

[cerulean meteor]

k.

is there any way i can make it my original time? ( outside of silver watches)

[zenith hare]

nope

[cerulean meteor]

oof

[young pilot]

why do my shields from mimic sometimes all disappear in pet battles?

are they turning to skulls from looter?

[zenith hare]

it's why there is a separate team for when you have alchemic unlocked

[young pilot]

the one under?

[zenith hare]

yup

[slate parrot]

i got a neutron ice ring, anything i can do w it?

[young pilot]

i feel like this was happening on that team a swell

[zenith hare]

Read the notes on it

[wicked birch]

can you increase the splice genes earned during afk time?

[zenith hare]

get a better splicer

do it in 2 min claims

get more kills

[wicked birch]

thats what ive been doing with w4 splicer

but i see ppl with x.xm genes when imm struggling to just get 3k every 2 minutes

[zenith hare]

it's because they 2 min claim more then 300 times

mainly for forge progress

[wicked birch]

i feel like ive done that. i guess not. maybe i should spend an afternoon juggling a few toons with 2 minute claims

[zenith hare]

nowadays it's a waste to do it for anything other then dna anyways

due to the massive forge cap increase hole gave

[wicked birch]

yea i dont think ive gotten to the point with the forge cap inc yet

[young pilot]

how do i turn off an ability from auto using in pet battles?

[indigo stratus]

U can’t turn off one ability when using auto abilities

[robust elm]

You have to turn it off before you start the battle

Click the green tiny icon thingy to turn an individual ability off, iirc

[young pilot]

ah isee ty

[robust elm]

Then use it manually until you don't need it anymore

[zenith hare]

wrong

[sonic delta]

The "Cranium Cooking" also works for the sigils?

[velvet anchor]

big wrong

[wicked birch]

one could only wish

[uneven obsidian]

lava fixed that pretty fast, everyone wouldb e done with sigils if it still worked

[wicked birch]

ill be done with sigls in about 5 years

[uneven obsidian]

the stamps and vials helps a lot for them

[zenith hare]

give or take 2/3 months for me and I started basically 1 year and 4 months ago

[wicked birch]

started about the same time but im a very casual player, plus i didnt realize the importance of alchemy until way late in the game

im still way behind on most things

[echo radish]

Meme is also very casual trust

[zenith hare]

I played incredibly inefficiently too, up until maybe 2/3 weeks after w6 release

and even then..well I barely active

I just do account skills in a more efficient way is all

[robust elm]

I'm playing less and less efficiently every months haha

Used to diehard everything. Now I'm just "capped minibosses..? I'll do it tomorrow"

[zenith hare]

you think I'm not the same?~ I've not even done the event for the past 4 days

[robust elm]

"Alchemy..? Just spam whatever bubble is open to use daily particles"

"Active..? 10mil plunders is nice and relaxing goal"

[echo radish]

I still have my bb printing a 2k copper sample, we are not the same

[sonic delta]

I am not "efficient" for the thing of searching "what would be the best" but almost all the time with one character active farming

Like a week ago or something like that was a pirate active for the quest of 1 million kills, and now is the bubonic the active

[zenith hare]

I've been meaning to get 1mill kills for ages

[robust elm]

I used to active farm hours every day, even without autoloot. Nowadays I just have my sb in rift so I'll get that +0.1% dr in a month or two

[sonic delta]

I can see the difference of "efficiency" because a friend started like 2 months ago and he already is in world 6

[wicked birch]

heh, i feel you there

[zenith hare]

tbh that's due to the extra updates around

[echo radish]

Yeah but my main dk sample is 100bil copper an hour (wich is bad, was good only when bravery just released )

[wicked birch]

my copper sample is upwards of probably 20m if i resampled but thats just a guess

[sonic delta]

I started the last year in june, and in november I only got the achievement of reaching world 4

[zenith hare]

that was my rough pace too

[wicked birch]

no reason to rush tbh

[zenith hare]

with same starting time too

late July I proper started

[sonic delta]

Now like the main problem the great time to get the bars for the armors of marble and godshard

[echo radish]

Wait that's mega slow tho

[wicked birch]

i got stuck at chiz becaused of damage but after that i didnt have problem getting to kruk

[zenith hare]

and?

I never actived once

[echo radish]

Slower then what I expected

[sonic delta]

And only like 3 things bought with real money. Auto-collect. One that upgrade more the stamps, cooking and bubbles. I dont remember the third one but i feel like i bought another one

[zenith hare]

first time I actually did that was late w5 time

just a bit before I beat kruk

[sonic delta]

And 1 time i was lucky with the arcade getting the jackpot of 2000 gems

[mild temple]

Is it possible to sync my steam account to my phone? Idk where to ask this I'm just asking here

[robust elm]

Use steam link, or whatever it's called to remote use your pc playing idleon

But no way to actually log in to mobile with steam account

[mild temple]

Poop

[robust elm]

Yes poop

Lava should add a warning to when players create their steam only accounts imho

[wicked birch]

i created idleon on steam. you can log out from the sync screen and link an email to it. then sign in from phone

[robust elm]

Or an option to add a secondary login email ingame

[robust elm]

Did you create the account using the new steam login feature?

[slim mantle]

yeah so I don't think you have a steam idleon account considdering that option is only a few weeks old...

[slim mantle]

he should, but he probably figured whatever since he plans to bring it to mobile aswell, he has mentioned so during a stream, idk how soon he plans on it tho

[wicked birch]

hmm, i didnt know there was a different option? idleon has been on steam for a long time. idk i dont read every single line in patch notes my bad sorry

[slim mantle]

prior to the option being added a few weeks ago steam was nothing more than a launching platform for idleon

[robust elm]

Yeh steam accounts are a new thing. What you have is a good old fashioned email login account

[wicked birch]

steam exclusive achievements?

[robust elm]

Just a marketing strat from Lava to boost steam downloads

[slim mantle]

yeah they're a thing, but that's litterally all, no account data was linked to steam at all

[wicked birch]

fair

[cold wraith]

does zerg rushogen really make THAT much of a difference to prints

[wicked drum]

ahhhhhh

[wicked birch]

well i didnt know about the new steam acc login, again my bad

[slim mantle]

u can do the math

[sleek pollen]

I would think so yeah

[robust elm]

Now, on newly created steam only accounts, steam handles the authentication for the game. So Lava actually doesn't have any login info for you so he can't let you on your account through other clients.

[cold wraith]

hm

i can get up to wave 110 but i cant clear 120

[wicked drum]

how do you unlock that

[cold wraith]

even with slow roast wiz

[wicked birch]

that sucks

[slim mantle]

no argument there, for the time being those ppl are stuck to steam without warning

[cold wraith]

zerg rushogen would increase my samples by 2% but sadly i cant unlock it

ill just resample after i get my towers lvls up

[wicked birch]

i need to redo my TD but i just cba

like all of them lol.

[frail vault]

What's a lucky lad? Is it useful

I just equipped it but I'm not 100% what it does

I mean it says right there but idk

[slim mantle]

it gives 7 luk and 0.07x drop rarity like it says

[sleek pollen]

it says that you're lucky*

[frail vault]

It doesn't say nothing about drop rarity

[slim mantle]

drop chance = drop rarity

[frail vault]

Just 7 luck and 7 drop rate

[sleek pollen]

getting it early on means you're very lucky, later on its alright

[frail vault]

Ohh

[sleek pollen]

luck doesn't matter anyway you see the juicy drop chance you be happy

[slim mantle]

later on it's: hello filter list

[sleek pollen]

get enough for luckier lad and 10 divine scarf and lucky lad gone to the shadow realm

[frail vault]

Wha character do i use it on

[slim mantle]

*a few luckier lads

[sleek pollen]

doesn't matter for now, whichever is your main pusher I'd say

[slim mantle]

like dadoums said, right now it doesn't matter much, later u'll want to prioritise ur dk

[sleek pollen]

yeah I guess

[agile willow]

77 luckier lads for luckiest lad

[slim mantle]

wasn't it 75?

[sleek pollen]

75

[frail vault]

Im hitting level 100 on my dk

Is this the time or nah

[sleek pollen]

thats not late enough for you to care about it

[slim mantle]

I said right now it doesn't matter because I saw ur low level :p

[frail vault]

What do you mean low 🥺

[sleek pollen]

100 is low level

[slim mantle]

it isn't high :p

[agile willow]

it gets a lot higher (mine isn't that high)

[sleek pollen]

I have an average of 338 lvl and its still low imo

[frail vault]

Damn

[agile willow]

people can get to like 700 with just grindind and then you could get to infinite with white pearls

but they nerfed white pearls so you can no longer use them to infinite lvl

[sleek pollen]

yeah sadly

[thorn mango]

412% movement speed

[deep silo]

should i refine that now or is there a boost at max? literally just started this

[fossil kayak]

Always rank up

[slim mantle]

at max u can rank it up, which u always wanna do on red

[thorn mango]

Always keep red on auto until next rank

[thorn mango]

Man I can't type as fast as you guys when I'm on mobile

[deep silo]

on auto?

[thorn mango]

Auto so always on

Never off

[deep silo]

ah

damn so i need thousands and thousands of each material lol

[agile willow]

yes

[deep silo]

this game never stops putting me back in w1 lol

[sleek pollen]

thats when printer come in clutch

[deep silo]

still don't have printer yet

[agile willow]

use the 3d printer to print these materials

[slim mantle]

it'll come easy, ur biggest issue right now should be the green mushroop caps but once u get ES in w4 that's a non issue

[sleek pollen]

welp gotta continue the introduction quest then

[deep silo]

i think the quest i'm on now gives me the book, the book unlocks on all chars right?

[velvet anchor]

3d printer

[fossil kayak]

[velvet anchor]

my refinery burning 10k spore caps an hour

[deep silo]

just waiting on my cog lol

[slim mantle]

oi, where are ur hourly clicks? :p

[fossil kayak]

I have grown weak in my old age

[slim mantle]

[velvet anchor]

lmao

[deep silo]

it's just crazy every answer requires 5 more questions in this game lol

[velvet anchor]

thats why its fun

[slim mantle]

meh, reaper was just confusing :p

[agile willow]

well w3 is a complicated world to start

[ebon kiln]

Just upgraded this without moving from w1 town and still lost charge - is it bugged?

[deep silo]

so each of these will have an item to 3d print ?

[agile willow]

w3 skills are the most unintuitive to start, you gotta do a lot of stuff

[slim mantle]

if u take off the skull ur charge is reduced to ur no skull capacity

[velvet anchor]

once you can pick yea, but only 1 will pr printed, 2 if you get gem shop upgrade

[agile willow]

each brighter slot is available, the darkened ones you need to buy later if you want them

[sleek pollen]

also save 875 gem to buy the crystal printer in gem shop

[ebon kiln]

Ahh okay, so I have to use charge down to that capacity or I lose it?

[deep silo]

got 6k gems still

[sleek pollen]

did you buy the crystal printer already?

[agile willow]

then you need to upgrade this star talent on page 2, put on your attack bar and click on it in a map to farm the resource

[slim mantle]

those will be ur samples to chose from to actually print, u have by default 1 print slot per character, gem shop upgrade makes it 2 slots

[placid pasture]

I think as long as you stay I same map on same player it doesn’t update until you switch or leave the map. Similar to snap shooting

[deep silo]

so 100% worth ?

[sleek pollen]

10000000% worth it

basically double your prints

[placid pasture]

Best purchase

[slim mantle]

argueably most important gemshop item

[deep silo]

got it lol

[ebon kiln]

This is what I tried doing but seems it jsut caps out at my unskulled charge

[placid pasture]

Hmm I guess I got lucky with lava spaghetti code last time I update mine

[velvet anchor]

why my window shift s not working agian rahhh

[deep silo]

does it matter what char i use the skill on for printing?

[slim mantle]

u'll have to use it on all chars, they can only sample for themselves

[deep silo]

ohh i need to go to spore map and use it

[velvet anchor]

how much yall wanna bet i still wont get bubble

[deep silo]

why can't my squire use 3d printer

[slim mantle]

rather likely u won't

[sleek pollen]

you'll get one

[slim mantle]

u probably didn't upgrade the printer building enough yet

[deep silo]

i have 2 chars that can use it how do i get all 5

[sleek pollen]

1 character line/slot per printer level on the construction tab

[velvet anchor]

3.2% x 24 is 76% chance for bubble

[sleek pollen]

level it up

[deep silo]

ooh

[sleek pollen]

ermm thats not how it works

[slim mantle]

that's.... not how that works

[deep silo]

ah i got it now

[velvet anchor]

now

how is it then

lmao

[sleek pollen]

3.2%^24 iirc

[placid pasture]

Basic math the world is cooked

[sleek pollen]

uhh nvm idk I don't remember shit from my math class

[agile willow]

it's a statistic calculus that you learn at high school or college

[velvet anchor]

its multiplycation bruh im clicking the button 24 times each has a 3.2% chance 3.2 x 24

[robust elm]

Lol

[agile willow]

odd is 1 - [(1 - 0.032)/1]^24

[slim mantle]

it's 3.2% chance every time, it's not 3.2% once then 6.4% then 9.6%...

[agile willow]

that is not how you calculate the odds

[sleek pollen]

the odds don't add up my friend

[slim mantle]

some of my bubbles took thousands of charges

[sleek pollen]

doing it 32 times won't make so the 32nd will be 100%

[agile willow]

i made the math on a calculator and you have 56% chance of get it

[velvet anchor]

its possible to not get it but very unlickly

[velvet anchor]

better then my divinity odds

[fossil kayak]

better than very lickly

[velvet anchor]

i got it

[ebon kiln]

So close to a nice round number

[agile willow]

imagine it was a coinflip, 50% head and 50% tails, if you flip a coin twice you don't have 100% chance to get a head. but 50% times 2 is 100%.

[velvet anchor]

again its possible to not get but unlickly you dont

this is why i didnt do a stats course

[agile willow]

yeah, but with different odds it could be lucky that you get

[slim mantle]

that example is litterally 25% chance of not getting it, 25% is not exactly small :p

[fossil kayak]

Probably could have used the course by the sound of it.

[velvet anchor]

i did high school calc fuck stats lol

[placid pasture]

I do think lava should add a 100% option for bubbles similar to divinity.

[velvet anchor]

nah

[slim mantle]

ehh bubbles aren't too bad to get once u got bubo up and running

[agile willow]

well when you get bubo going you basically have 100%

[ebon kiln]

Speaking of bubbles, is this just there as a recommendation so you get them as soon as w7 is out?

[agile willow]

yes

since w7 isn't even on the future content channel, i wouldn't worry about it

[placid pasture]

Good to do when active bubo but sigils if not

[ebon kiln]

thought as much, almost at 1b output on copper too after hole buffs so can start hourly clicking that if i'm ever bothered (i wont be)

[agile willow]

you could put people on the water cauldrons instead of pushing this, it gets more liquid

[ebon kiln]

I'm still going to push some liquid capacity and speed etc too, although don't have full liquidvestment

[deep silo]

are these numbers low?

[agile willow]

for starting they look good

[slim mantle]

for fresh w3? pretty high actually

[velvet anchor]

its relative

[deep silo]

ah ok, just wanted to make sure i wasn't missing anything, 49 seemed low

[agile willow]

yeah it starts slow

[slim mantle]

monster mats just always low

[velvet anchor]

im pretty sure i was printing like 20 on my first sample

[dusk ledge]

I am getting close to the end of W3, and I am only getting 5 water per hour. Is that low or good

[ebon kiln]

yeah i got 26 on my first one lol

[slim mantle]

± 20 aswell for me

[agile willow]

if 49 seems low try sampling bloaches

[deep silo]

lol i do need like 2k bloaches

[agile willow]

my first bloach sample was 6

[dusk ledge]

Mine was 7 I think lol

[slim mantle]

4 xD

[velvet anchor]

mine wqas 1

[deep silo]

so should i sample those same 2 things on all 3 to get my refinery going strong? or go for items that i need for crafting? can i sample amarok rocks lol

[slim mantle]

for now u basically put all focus on refinery upkeep

and no, can't sample amarok rocks :p

[placid pasture]

Focus refinery for now and gear grind out with players

[deep silo]

sounds like a plan

[velvet anchor]

refinery such a bitch to keep up

[dusk ledge]

Any opinions on this? Need to know if I am behind

[velvet anchor]

my critters are so ass... i just got rift 6 so hopefully that helps

[slim mantle]

seems pretty normal to me, liquid is a big bottleneck early on

[sleek pollen]

water is always sht anyway without the gem shop upgrade or bubo

[fossil kayak]

Not bad. Gets better in W4

[dusk ledge]

I have 1 bleach cauldron upgrade

[velvet anchor]

liquid is a bottle neck for me now that i actully can get earlty game resources for first couple bubbles

[dusk ledge]

Trying to get to the end of W3, hemo carrying me hard

[agile willow]

you can only print the base material of things, the base material is the top left resource on the monster/ore/whatever card, so for snakes you can only priint snake skin.

you should have as many prints as necessary to keep refinery going and the rest you use for materials for stamp/alchemy

[slim mantle]

CC grind

[velvet anchor]

imma try to get first 5 bubbles to level 100

[slim mantle]

such cheap bubbles to upgrade still :p it's like free on liquids 😄

[agile willow]

seems fine, eventually your shaman elite class will give you a lot of water, but until then you're in the desert lol

[velvet anchor]

my culdrons max at like 100

have mercy

[rotund totem]

easy, deathnote

[deep silo]

ah yes i forgot about stamps... those bastards get so expensive lol

[rotund totem]

be kira

[slim mantle]

me having bubbles cost 300+ per

[rotund totem]

stamps I think will carry you at this srage atleast the did for me

[velvet anchor]

should i have a guy print or afk farm oak logs

also bleach logs

[slim mantle]

print

[velvet anchor]

print with es??

[rotund totem]

yall how am I supposed to upgrade sigil ratem I cant get into thousands with 1 per hour

[ebon kiln]

Any mage

[slim mantle]

or bubo

[velvet anchor]

my bubo printing forest fibers and whispy for refinery

[rotund totem]

I think by printing ur gettig more resources by doing t afk

[velvet anchor]

i can use my second es he aint printing anyting useful

but he level 1 chopping

[rotund totem]

cuz 2x with the gem upgrade, printer output buffs, abd carry cap and you dont have to afk there forever

[velvet anchor]

fuck

[rotund totem]

yeah im kinda dumb, dumb it down to begginer lvl?

like how to get past 1 per hour

[slim mantle]

summoning make sigils go brrr

[rotund totem]

what word is that

im early w4

[slim mantle]

6

[rotund totem]

ok

what abt w4 alternatives

also where do you unlock rifts

[agile willow]

don't do sigils until w6

[ebon kiln]

Don't do sigils in w4

[slim mantle]

basically suck it up at 1 per hour xD

[rotund totem]

ij

ok

how unlock rifts

[agile willow]

put your guys in the alchemy cauldron until you get all alchemy bubbles

[dusk ledge]

I am pretty sure sigils are not ideal until like late game

[slim mantle]

push through w4, it's near the end

[velvet anchor]

@slim mantle how important are the skilling boxes in po, i still have less then 400 boxes total so

[rotund totem]

my chance sucks how do I increase that isntead of p2w and shaman

[slim mantle]

pretty important to get once u can

[rotund totem]

im getting 20% top with my shaman

[slim mantle]

20% is good

[velvet anchor]

but not priority

[rotund totem]

should I buy the gem upgrade

[dusk ledge]

I am getting 3 boxes per day, when do I start getting more lol

[rotund totem]

for clhamey

[velvet anchor]

once you get pens

[dusk ledge]

I have pens, not many though

[slim mantle]

when u can get pens crystal farming makes that easy

[dusk ledge]

like 6

[ebon kiln]

you can unlock the other three orders by doing more of the first three, then pen the first one

[agile willow]

just shaman and/or wait. after w4 shaman start getting better at cranium cook

[velvet anchor]

you willl get an abundence

[twin bay]

guh

[dusk ledge]

If only the penguin loot pens worked lol

[velvet anchor]

i got 150 some banked up rn and i hjavnt even started the precess that gives them as bi product

[ebon kiln]

i got 10k but i don't feel like clicking 30k times to use them all

[rotund totem]

yeah im upgrading vials to buff shaman dmg, get dementia and use candies to push to elite class map

[dusk ledge]

autoclicker go brr lol

[twin bay]

of what?

[rotund totem]

yall im w4 and still dont have jman, should I be even focusing him rn

[slim mantle]

this is just what I have in storage :p

[agile willow]

keep going, you'll get there

[ebon kiln]

pens

[twin bay]

OCCIDO, how den work

[rotund totem]

how the hell are you getting so many

[twin bay]

in the w5 hole

[slim mantle]

crystal farming

[dusk ledge]

I am towards the end of W3, and I have been told to get jman as my 7th toon. I just got my 6th, so you should be ok

[rotund totem]

yeah I have the 7th, but idk I should focus him

[slim mantle]

opinions differ, mine is getting him as 10th

[rotund totem]

7th?

what will 7th be then

[agile willow]

just a fyi, autoclickers are against the rules of the server and recommending them might get you banned, please avoid the subject.

for the boxes, you can deposit them 100 a time, so its only 100 clicks, not that bad

[slim mantle]

select difficulty u want, summon, fight

[dusk ledge]

imo yes, as maestro helps a ton with skilling, if you can hand feed them

[dusk ledge]

Oh, oops, did not know. Sorry

[agile willow]

no problem

[slim mantle]

dk, es and sb have been the meta, tho things could change soon as 3 master classes are about to release (dk should definatly remain meta tho cuz of construction)

[rotund totem]

im prolly gonna focus other stuff then get hi, idrc abt skilling rn

[twin bay]

so many damage numbers

the focus is to not get fear up ig

[dusk ledge]

I am so gated behind refinery and water rn 😦

[agile willow]

beware the about to release occido mention might be in like 3 months lol

[twin bay]

im in w6 and my first nutella salt was yesterday, refinery sucks man :(

[slim mantle]

theres no way it's gonna be another 3 months, theres barely anything else left on the weekly update roadmap

[green cloud]

when is the next rotation for Choco Chip? I just reached W4

[dusk ledge]

I am hard stuck at explosive salts. I have rank 3 red salts and rank 2 orange

and have trouble even keeping up with them

[twin bay]

the first 2 salts shouldt be too taxing on ur printer

[green cloud]

by chance do you have the materials required? to check for them?

[dusk ledge]

These are my prints atm

[agile willow]

you can look them in the wiki

[twin bay]

i feel bad for you

[dusk ledge]

I do too lol

[twin bay]

your in w3 and ur cant even get 50 green caps an hour..

o man

[slim mantle]

that's normal for w3...

[twin bay]

o

[idle sleet]

does multikill stack with the x2 kill lab node

[twin bay]

thats still nuthin man

[dusk ledge]

I am pretty much breaking even with my salts

[twin bay]

what ur guys afking

[slim mantle]

exactly, when ur in w3 u only just unlock that shit, u start at basically nothing...

[agile willow]

then that's good

[slim mantle]

x2 kills is just a flat multi at the end

[dusk ledge]

My squire is my pusher at the bottom left, rest are farming

[twin bay]

why shaman on frogs?

[dusk ledge]

Trying to get green headbands as most of my toons do not have the blunderbag yet

Is that a bad idea

[slim mantle]

well I've stuck around here longer than I intended to, I'm off to sleep :p

[twin bay]

i forgot about blunderbag

[dusk ledge]

4 free slots

also was going to farm out snake bags for both use and the sand bag

[twin bay]

imma go use some candies...

[dusk ledge]

I would too, if I was not using them all on pushing lol

[idle sleet]

not me googling blunderbag

[dusk ledge]

I have a lot, but still

[twin bay]

w1 tab

[idle sleet]

i know i just zoomed way past it on all but 1 character lol

was joke

[twin bay]

i wonder how hard it would be to greenstack candies

[idle sleet]

ill do that on my characters one day

[agile willow]

worth noting that getting to choco chip in 1 month is kind of hard, make sure to read the thread below and try to not neglect smithing and cooking

https://www.reddit.com/r/idleon/s/YBNFKhFVSj

[twin bay]

now htat i think about it i dont really need it

but imma still get it

[dusk ledge]

100k xp until I finally get my 6th toon lol

Finally trapping will not be a massive chore

[twin bay]

toon?

[dusk ledge]

character

I play a lot of world of warcraft, most people call characters toons over there lol

force of habit

[idle sleet]

if im mid w4 u think i could get it in 28 d if i focus? how long does it take to "come back around" if i miss it?

going to immediately stop using pinion spurs for bubbles and switch ev eryone to it

thats the "hard part" right

[agile willow]

no idea when it comes back around after 15 jan

[twin bay]

why u need crit dmg

[deep silo]

looks good for my printer? can i leave this thing alone now lol

[agile willow]

both pinnion spurs and cheese can be hard, you need both cooking and anvil to get going

[dusk ledge]

I would not recommend the last 2 copper prints. Use em on mob mats, fish, or bugs

[idle sleet]

desert oasis is my next tier, i can get that I think

[deep silo]

hmm ok

[twin bay]

u should make ur guy on the top do copper in both nad the bottom 2 do gmush caps on both

but besides that fug

[deep silo]

ah didn't know i could do the same thing lol

[twin bay]

ye

[idle sleet]

oh i was confusing cheese and golden cheese rip

no way will my cooking be up that high in 28 days

[deep silo]

there we go

[dusk ledge]

that works

[twin bay]

if u focus on it it will

[idle sleet]

i need my bb in lab 😭 maybe if i get another char slot

[agile willow]

to push cooking, lvl up your egg and cabbage meals and then try to push everything to lvl 11 together with diamond chef yellow bubble.

to push anvil, lvl up your hammer hammer bubble and buy anvil points to spend in anvil speed

[twin bay]

show lab

[idle sleet]

i can get the pinion spurs, just have to stop using them for bubbles

[twin bay]

u do not need crit damage..

[agile willow]

can you get enough spurs until jan 15th?

[idle sleet]

i move stuff around but im trying to get shrine world tour

jman/maestro is doing his thing and DK is pushing

[twin bay]

try to get sigils with ur next char

ok

[agile willow]

you don't do sigils until you have all bubbles, requires a lot of time for small rewards

[twin bay]

why does it look like peas tho

peas and a sword

[agile willow]

🤷‍♂️

[idle sleet]

i should not be putting my maestro in lab in general right?

[rotund totem]

yall how does no bubbles left behind even work, i logged in for 2 days and didnt nitice any nunnles lvled up

[agile willow]

if he's already a maestro you can put him there

[idle sleet]

hes not but will be by tomorrow, just gotta push to the snail map

[agile willow]

it lvls up the first time you log in in a day, if you're always active on background odds are you'll never see it

if you use it or ie you can see your bubbles lvl increased tho, it even tells what bubbles will be upgraded tomorrow

[twin bay]

it just randomly happens for me

[rotund totem]

ok

[twin bay]

i rarely see it

[compact mantle]

It happen, you may just be distracted

[twin bay]

no

[compact mantle]

Yes

[idle sleet]

it happens exactly at the reset time u see on your guild quest reset, if you offline at the time its when you log in

ive been watching it like a hawk

[deep silo]

when do i get more traps?

[compact mantle]

When you make em

[idle sleet]

first trap is vendor item, once you get a poison froge you can do quests to do the next tier of critters

[agile willow]

when you upgrade it

you can pass the trap around to other chars so they all get started on the skill

[twin bay]

i uh, pay attention

[idle sleet]

then its crafting from there, u have to unlock them in the unlocks/merit tab

[compact mantle]

Clearly not enough

[twin bay]

i am

[compact mantle]

Do you have it run in the background?

[hoary bloom]

how to get the penguin thingy

[deep silo]

so do i afk kill on hunter and when its time to claim trap i just switch to other talents?

[idle sleet]

yes I do

[twin bay]

no?

[idle sleet]

i think eventually you get trapper drone and stuff

[compact mantle]

Do you know when your daily reset is?

[twin bay]

in 13 hours

[agile willow]

you do whatever you want and when its time you go to the map or use hunter talent and claim

[twin bay]

why

[compact mantle]

Go wait and watch all throughout those 13 hrs

[twin bay]

no

[idle sleet]

i literally hook the lab node up like 10 mins before reset

and then watch it tick at reset

[compact mantle]

Or you could just keep it on 24/7

[dusk ledge]

Can you place traps with a hunter as well as collect them, or just collect them?

[twin bay]

y

[compact mantle]

You can place and collect traps on all

[idle sleet]

my characters are like level 10 lab, im not there yet

[dusk ledge]

Hell ya

[compact mantle]

Not you but because active gains>afk gains

And lab always active is so good

[agile willow]

you need to place traps with each character until you unlock this in construction

[twin bay]

uh ok

[agile willow]

then you place them all on hunter for critters or on maestro for exp

[compact mantle]

Lab jail for the next couple weeks 😔🙏

[dusk ledge]

So is there any point to doing it with a hunter before getting this? Have to run there anyways...

[deep silo]

so does the printer print 1 time an hour or constantly throughout the hour?

[agile willow]

you use hunter to collect all traps

[idle sleet]

youll kinda need to, to get enough critters to craft sutff u need

[agile willow]

once an hour

[deep silo]

ah ok makes sense

[compact mantle]

Hunters specialized skills is trapping and be gets bonus critters and stuff for collecting

[dusk ledge]

So you want to collect them on the hunter, but place them on everyone else?

[compact mantle]

Well, you're stuck placing them on everyone

[compact mantle]

Once you have this, you want to only collect and place using hunter

[deep silo]

35 more lvls for 6th character... seems like it takes so long lol

[dusk ledge]

I got my 6th 5 mins ago lol

[deep silo]

nicee

[dusk ledge]

and I am 3 zones from Chizorr

[deep silo]

distilled water is such a pain

[compact mantle]

Get ready for the disappointment of your life

[dusk ledge]

Oh?

[idle sleet]

its just not a hard boss

youll beat it as soon as you get there

watch a quick video though

[dusk ledge]

Oh, thats not a disappointment lol

I always believe the normal should be a pushover, and the "hard mode(s)" should kick your ass

[sleek pollen]

BAWLLZ

[compact mantle]

The hardmode doesn't do that either

[pure helm]

It drops from W3 mobs too.

[deep silo]

oh?

[compact mantle]

And it's just a downfall from w3 boss

[deep silo]

what drops distilled water? let me at em

[keen lynx]

why is my cc worse at worms than citrines

[dusk ledge]

all world 3 mobs at a low drop rate

[compact mantle]

W5 boss is literally if you and your wife have been married for 10 years and hate each other, it's just there

[sleek pollen]

wurms harder than citrine

[deep silo]

oh

[dusk ledge]

You can get like maybe 1 an hour at 500 mobs per hour

[rugged cave]

Just unlocked my first shinies but there's no shiny passives in the database, am I missing something?

[deep silo]

i'm this far in and not 1 yet lol

[keen lynx]

but im 1 shotting both?

[compact mantle]

Put it in fence

Or whatever it's called

[pure helm]

I think its every thing in w3.

[keen lynx]

then its best to buy your watter form alchemy

[deep silo]

ah thats a low rate

[indigo stratus]

Oh sorry misread it lol

[deep silo]

yeah it's just so slow

[keen lynx]

understable what you need the water for ?

[dusk ledge]

Do you have the drippy drop stamp?

[sleek pollen]

might have something to do with aura and fart duration + maybe raise the dead range

[dusk ledge]

that helps a bit

[deep silo]

need 8 per weapon at least

and then some items need 3 i think

[keen lynx]

my char dosent go to all the platforms

[sleek pollen]

if you can @deep silo buy the 'one measly gem' once everyday if you don't already

[deep silo]

what's that

[compact mantle]

Gem

[deep silo]

oh i see

that's 5 water drops idk if i can spare that lmao

[sleek pollen]

well buy it after you have enough with your weapon

[dusk ledge]

One measly gem is indeed one measly gem lol

[compact mantle]

Dawg I'm at the point where I have to check up on it, cause the bar overfills and doesn't expand

[sleek pollen]

hmm might be why proly? gotta put aura on all plateform I think?

[keen lynx]

light up that lab node to increase capacity

[compact mantle]

I have them all lit up

Every single one

It's just bugged

[pure helm]

I am guessing your a bit off from it but there is a salt lick bonus for liquid cap and regen it takes trapping critters to lvl.

[keen lynx]

how long are you leaving alch alone for?

[compact mantle]

Days

[deep silo]

ah i just started trapping like 20 mins ago lol

[compact mantle]

Weeks

Months at time

[keen lynx]

very bad

[dusk ledge]

Good god, do your alch

[compact mantle]

Very very good

[keen lynx]

alch is the goal of all life

[dusk ledge]

the bubbles must multiply

[compact mantle]

I don't even get enough mats to upgrade them anymore

[keen lynx]

all of your 10 chars should be printing mats for alch

[pure helm]

You know the liquid bar dosnt visually change right? You need to manually rank up a lvl and you will see the bar jump up or get multiple lvls.

[dusk ledge]

The reason you don't do alch is probably also the cause

[compact mantle]

Ye that's what I'm sayimg

[dusk ledge]

You don't get enough mats for alch by not leveling alch to get the bonuses to get enough mats for alch

[pure helm]

So you still get the lvls you just dont see it until next time you interact with it.

[compact mantle]

No, I just haven't had time to start upgrading capacity and getting mats,

[compact mantle]

Ye

[pure helm]

Ya thats normal.

[keen lynx]

could i have a look at your account to shame you?

[dusk ledge]

How to people get so much water? Is that like a w4 or 5 thing?

[compact mantle]

Ye go ahead

[pure helm]

Cranium cooking.

And all its buffs.

[dusk ledge]

So a w4 thing, gotcha

bubo go brrrr

[compact mantle]

https://www.idleonefficiency.com/profile/upload

[pure helm]

pretty much its a shaman skill but you need elites to really get it going.

[keen lynx]

kinda a world 5 thing since you need the lvl 200 bubo talents

[compact mantle]

Oops

[deep silo]

if i'm on w3 should i even bother finishing making amarok for my other 3 chars?

[compact mantle]

georgeoof.idleonefficiency.com

[dusk ledge]

want to look at mine too lol

[sleek pollen]

so world 6 because by the time you get ancient fury and automation