#newplayer-chat-w1πw2β³
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And why TF do you go all in with meat multi, you need discount and happiness too
Bro think ik how bubba works
Fuk them
4th smoked meat is so annoyingly rare for me
Common sense 
It's get easy after u get mf9
I think u need 20+hr for last meatπ€
Which give ?
75% chance so get free meat
tehre better ?
Combine with gift 5
U get so much meat
And after u get dubble meat upgrade u get into 100m and billions
does it ramp up at some point? cause its super slow rn..
idk im suppose to get 1000T meat with only 15B per min
Oh i might start pushing mf agains 
Better tha nothing 
It depends on your overall game progression
There is an upgrade in vault which is HUGE but needs a shit ton of money
litteraly if you use your gifts too early arent you hardstuck
Mine costing 9 red coins 
cus it seems to be almost the only way to get tons of meat
if you are still early on in the megaflesh nah
used to be that way but vault and the sushi bonus to bubba makes it easy to fix now
At early u don't open gift much but at late game u open gifts to unlock next upgrades
Only red ?
Yeah I am nub
i meant like owl and poppy when there is a certain reset that make it ramp


MF 5 and MF9 are huge (haven't experienced 9 yet)
5 makes you be able to double one of the charisma stats so its insane
Like doubling discount or meat multi
Or happiness before patting then going double multi
Mf 9 gives free upgrades according to shokeen
how does one do this
oh it goes that high
Murder
only alive when you start
They need to be alive when entering the map, not alway alive
I need the next fountain water to come out so I can save my bubba
Mordor
Bubba multi cost gonna be higher than monument multi 
its so cooked 

Idk why this reminded me of "a hat in time" or whatever that game is called 
Im not even halfwatt
Some day an update will happen
the fact you can beat summoning with 10x more stats than you
next goal is w4
If it has infinity sign do i still need to equip them?
can 2 ppl help to summon king doot boss?
No
It can double their effect so do it
No but you still can equip for more stat
Is there a must equip star sign guide?
No
No
After u get infinite starsign u don't need to equip them
with the chip yea 

does this only work with the char who equips it?
U know u can try to read
I checked star signs once since I started playing
I dont have it either ngl lmao
yes

doable ?
you need to equip the move speed star sign even if its infinite to drop the ring,also its only active
do you have seeing red?
I got everything
k maybe 1 or 2 missing idk
time to park
dw about it
Me when I dont want to play anymore
oh yes.
Wtf, its taking me decades to go into the 7th reset π
shiny caught every 12 hours-1 day.
close
show your points allocation
This qin5 feathers wtf
well this gets quite the discount ya knoqw
and from that i'll get 124 points
fair enough
also i always have the saviour in case of my stupidity
in which i may have once accidently clicked it mid run of getting 7th megafish once
im always scared to miss click
okay so i'll simply tell
i was quite stopid before
and used it recklessly
but im not screwed yet !
uhh. yea :D
yea
its useful for a couple thing
1st: yellow upgrade softcaps at 100, 2nd: tartar upgrade softcap at 250
Just do 1:1 on what u want to focus
is there any hardcap in poopy minigame if i may ask :>
Forgive me, i thought that was the stupid seal idiot
I got another week or so lol
There is no hard cap in any clicker
They just get slow after some time
aight.

tho with fountain you get more bonuses 
thing i like to do at start of each poopy run is hard focus tar for the upgrades then slightly forget about it till (sometimes upgrade and thats all)
simply so i just get decent upgrades then i put it at soft cap and grind the rest of stuff,
I just set my ratio, get a good amount of all 6 fish, reset to remove cheaper+shiny, let it run a couple days and come back
aight
But ngl I got so many normal reset that its a bit too tryhard
Gotta bubble the bubbles
U can follow this if u want
But i just do 1:1
First tar then some normal upgrade then switch to shiny then back to normal fish
Tar gets ridiculous after 1/2m upgrades ngl
per min ?
highest tar i've got was 669k / min
uhhh what was the red green red ratio again ?
i perhaps haven't done poopy in a while
worth trying?
or I should just farm hella lotus

just 1:1 ?
Why not e69
wait fuck why did i type red green red
i meant blue green red
i dunno, simply bcuz
if you just gonna let it run just blue/red 1:1

well yeah
aight thanks

Wut?
oh now i gotta get blu fish since i've megafished AHHHHHHHH

ts never comes
WHY DID I GET THIS MANY X2s
tar
god i love gambli,
clicking shiny caughts
remember lads, gambling is bad, unless its free
you believed.
YEAH ITS 3m
but it'll get my megafish quite faster now
why did you pinch me.
Cuz it's a small blue fih
I JUST MEGAFISHED SOME MINUTES AGO, i gotta get my upgrades up

after i get bigger upgrades you'll see what im capable of
i am bob and a fisher afterall.
okay you know what,
have nearly x10 of that.
This fish is never going to show up afterward
i do be lucky with blu's you know.
i once pulled out this. around a month ago
yeah its smoll fish but,
double blu :3
yay
awesome
Share some I'm stuck at M and cna't get to B 
i'll share my luck with ya
sharing is caring, of course
yay
it keeps doubling the bonus
oh lord is very good then
Omnipotent is W7 no?
name aside,every new tier is double
mida, im world 6
then you should know baka
pro gamer
Is never ending loot search sabotaging yourself?
now i have more artifact channce
nani
Whats the defenders dignity ring
just a ring you can craft
its in the anvil
not very usefull
im pretty sure he needs to unlock the recipe that is
Need for the achievement
and the ring can be used for an achievement for stocked in gold
I do,cus i cant see it
damn suddenly mida is the most active member now, every time i lurk he is talking
10000 fish...
small
thats the first time i see you sending a message in 12 hours what do you mean
How do I even print fish,I tried but it didnt work
And who drops the recipe for the ring
the same way but it will be random along the other fish
just cuz i didn't send any message doesnt mean i dont read the chat sometimes
mimics
Ah,them
they drop the recipe
ok
no ender captain tho,that thing is a legend
but uhm be ready for this
Should I get something for w2 with the 700 gems i have
Maybe ur print slots were full
MIDA WHY DID YOU PINCH ME FOR GODS SAKES
the chance,its small
They wasnt
its not ever pinchable if im just tellin som peep chances of getting a recipe isnt it ?
its random,every fishing spot has 4 fish
you might need to sample 10 times to get a specific one
Well what did it say?
I forgot
u want some
Im farming cakes rn so I cant go over there
yes
easy one btw
it is, yes
candy
i've been there
I used mine
FUCKK I FORGOT TO BUY MORE OILS
I can get some with gems,buti dont wanna waste them
never
Crystal Island?
It do be like dat
yes
Oh,I only unlocked the first 2
Get to sailing lv30, meet shrek incarnate, buy island (note that when you buy an island the price of every other one goes up)
you dont have divinity orbs? the red balls
I dont think so
Bad @sullen quiver alert
WHAT
Bc I came back last week,and I was gone for almost 2 years
i see,welcome
alchemy
Isn't that the one where i can put more players into 1 pot
Or is there another one i didnt see
Damn
I'd advise waiting on those, get the W3 crystal printer (around 900 gems) and the cards 1st @tidal sigil
Already got it
and he said world 2
you can always farm after reaching a new town
Im w4,but im still in w1-w3 for the quests
how didnt i knew about this till now.
What does this one do
Mmmm toxic looking bubbles
because you are a good fisher but not good reader
Maybe u were too lazy to go fishing
Crystal
Yeah but better keep gems for W3 then spend on W2 and be stuck. But true
it increases the chance of new bubbles,and also its faster to get charges to try new bubbles
crystal trash seasalt
hey silly yukyud,
How much it costs
Arnt you W7??
so i just buy these 3
Hey goob
300
WHAT
Perfect
Hi @loud bramble
Then i can get 1 or 2 food slots as well
no u buy everything, thats the buy order tho
Suppers
im not a w7, and never was.
choose the class you like more
oh
very good
issue with your skill
take care and drink water
Hi and bye
Bye, imma eat now

now i regret not knowing bout that.
hm maybe I shoul dunlock new ones..
oo, trash.
go in order mf
No
i know the library level its important but it takes longer and the chance is smaller
the 4/5/6 are useless tho (4th isnt that bad but effort)
wait what do i buy from trash
bribes
sounds good.
I personally went garbage x4 first then bribe
i went full bribe
But for sure at least get 1 or 2 level cus its cheap
the best way to have money is to not spend
Yea but no
the first garabge is already paid of in the first like 4 days
the more the merrier, eh ?
I think its 7 base trash
it increases
so you get between 1 and 2 I think, I dont think theres decimals on those
so the first level is DEF better, (and I think first 4 too but cant say 100%)
Litteraly it was not that much candy you get 10x that during events π
candy its never enough
consider getting more
true
me watching the 12 hour candy gives me PHYSICAL PAIN
oohhh the 72 hour one its powerfull
wait you can skip from basic to eldritch ??
no
nuh uh
π₯
welp 2 in one go
cool
w7
sadge
there is 2
how to do meels time achievements
elaborate
uh the skull dancing?
Oh that one
Just curious, is unending loot search bad for leveling artifacts?
is ergonomic DNA splicer last splicer needed?
get the rare drop from green mushroon and go to sewers
the bolt cutter?
yes
What you mean
and why would I go to sewers
because the skeleton is there dancing
which location can u send me a pic
i feel so dumb how do you use 3d printing
talent
Idk i saw a vid or smth, (wasnt paying attention)
can u uh send a pic?π
do the icecream tutorial quest
is this the last splicer?
yes
If you mean staying in same island to rank up the artis then yes unless you need the resources go to island with most arti chance
Ohhhh
yes
how just by dropping?
try clicking the vent
oh
thanks alot bro
btw I'm done with this game it's bullying me
the requirement for equipments now need fucking salts
and I'm struggling with it bruh
maybe 4-5 months later I'm not struggling but now I am
you can use amarok to go very very very far
very far
it wants me to get Dionysjs salt 10k for all of it and yeah it's rank 2
Thanks
Bad @loud bramble alert time to steal your in game pets now for shark bait
eh?
portals?
the big floating circle with a number
why?
I'm planning to upgrade my equipments to amarok set to divine set if possible
yeah tbh but there's no challenge if I don't
until smithy opens
but yeah at the same time I'm angry because of quest bc it's ridiculous time consuming
smithy what
w3 left of town
oh yeah I'm already activating things there
I'm at dementia armor
I'm planning to do void armor and chizoar armor and maybe secret armor
search for all parts you will notice its not there
Nani tf?
I mean pet spinner?

just play the game and open the portals bro
dont get distracted
once you get to w6 you fly
and then you get to w7 and its heaven
I'm already at w6 but the baseπ
choose two and keep opening portals
two what?
characters
Yippe i took this myself what yall think
this is probably my biggest challenge learning to use 3d printing blind
@loud bramble vs @clever granite the white hair guy from how to train ur dragon 3
She loses
Not even a fight
print, simple
The ICU (idleon cinematic universe), tho ICU sounds like the ice from us or a middle eastern extremist organization
pro gamer
time to do idleon chores 
my dumb ass did not realized their is a page 2 in star skills
or 3 or 4 or 5 ;p
Playing the main game, you'll get about 2.5-3 pages. My 5th, and 4th page are mostly empty
And a few of the skills are weird/random/literally nothing, so just play and unlock what you can π
Sample size, prayers (especially royal sampler, its a additive penalty to xp not multi so you should have it at all times), skilled dimwit, prowess from alchemy, and basically just git gud at skill efficiencyβ and printing should be fine
ohh, thought you meant IRL 3d printing lmao
if i have money i would probably do it also blind
Oh yeah skilled dimwit xp decrease is also additive i think
π
Skilled dimwit carries for prowess bro, its goated right guys?
Star talent dice?
yes
yep
Yep, the reward is a trophy if you wonder
What can I do with a stone peanut
Drop it at the stone bottom right of frog map
Alr thx
I got 3 of those XD
And it's completely pointless 
what does luck even do
3rd
Gives Dr and class exp (you won't even notice) and dmg and acu to secret class
How do yall get such big stats? Also hi
Pets mostly tbh
bless me
NO NOT THE BARBARIAN
Alchemy
That too
Well, basically everything in the game lol
Wait
I bought like 7 bouquets
Time to do Persephone's
Not enough skill eff? alchemy. Not enough dmg? alchemy. Not enough stats? Alchemy. Wencheless? Alchemy ain't gonna fix it but it will help cope
Friendless? Alchemy 
Nice pfp
Ty, commision
You can make friends from alchemy
I glue small arms and a smile on the gems I trade in alch and I call those friends 

Basically

I feel like drawing kai lazurai from pilgrammed
firefly spotted
Ufo: flies past
i can only get one pet per week
or beg
anyway is their a way to get pets in later worlds or is the two the only options π
And so it shall be done
Only two options
What do you call a fur less dog
Pray that good and majestic person blesses ya
Or spend real money for bundles

Wow I'm just getting emp wings now for free 
Bad mew alert
Bad girl qlert
Bad girls alert
You know it good boy
Get it right I am evil
No
SHUT IT
Yes
Make me
Baddie
Lmfao
Bad @astral geyser alert stop breathing now that is not allowed
poverty problems i cant spend money except for the first 3 dollarsπ€£ nah ur not evil but its the only way
I won't take commands from YOU HAH
Why do people think I am nice for? I am evil
i open discord and i see you guys calling each other good boy and bad girl....
BEHAVE!
Good @clever granite alert
Nope I am evil get it right now
Bad
This time it wasn't my fault- :3
its fine , i know, you are always so proper and well behaved
I am really just getting wings every showdown huh
but these girls...
Are you calling me good boy 
Now that's a w7 reference
Truly evil people dont care, they commit evil for the sake of fun or something despite the consequences and causing suffering. Eg: psychopaths
jokes on him, we can breath under water
Bad @astral geyser alert
Do we even have lungs
β
idk, we dont have a nose or mouth so i doubt

We've been to space and a volcano

Shokeen
true evil would say they have a free pet available then ghost them
for the fun of itπ
I will be the idleoner that kills mida and shokeen 
thats not a way to call and old person like me, please refer to me the proper way as uncle or grandpa

||LAZER GUN!||
How old are you again?
half my life has been spent
What the fuck is that comp
either 29 or 30 idk
A WINNING COMP
You 50?


lol i dont plan to live until 100 only around to 60
No.
read victory is in the middle of the screen
If it works it works
That won't save you from W7 ones
what ?
Nothing 
okay, young lady

He's not wrong....
Wtf
every lady is young
π₯
wish it was, i would be resting now
Felt
Add another digit for us 

We have a dino fossil?
Yes u
did you see the picture?
I love dinosaurs
?
love or LOVE?
LoVe
i see
I'm gonna unleash 100.1% of my brain here

I am not gonna reprint UNTIL next meritocracy cause of statue week
any kingdoot?

Mega evil bad @reef fable alert stop breathing now that is not allowed
i can
what
Bad @sullen quiver alert stop breathing now that is not allowed
Ok
anyone king doot need mage and archer
i did with this upgrades,maybe with 45 more upgrades i can win

the food's that give mob damage arent even max
Those as well!
Felt
the scaling is so bad it gave me cancer
Man I really need more meal level they all maxxed at 60 
Yeah!
dont neglect sailing
Dont act like I didnt show you my sailing
Eventually just putting the meal on the oven for a second can level it up like 30x lol. Meal speed do in fact go up
"YoU GotTa dO iN OrDEr"
you show me,thats why i know its neglected
anyway time to sleep
lazer comp its indeed one of the comps of all time
fair enough lol.. they are clouds, could happen to anyone π
but its mid artifacts so whatever
guess you'll never know
Truely a mystery of all time
Just grab it when your sailors/boats can go hyperspeed
I'm basically sending 70% of my fleet to one island lol
like I said, eye is a pain lol
Each group is probably 6-7 boats each π lol
listening to the singer of Big Iron, and in another song he literally says '6 or 7 high' in this other song lol. dead
Better put the door back for todays attempt lol
today's attempt is guaranteed
Just so you know, I beat all without that upgrade cause I forgot it existed

who need pigs for tp hah
next crop have .1 chance
just buy the gemshop upgrade twice
That too
I even forgot that existed
How many instagrows was for the achievement?
pain
its 106 but i teleport to diff map in between fuk my life
Why do you only get 6 armor stones from w7 shop
what does +1 salt type mean
I get 8
i got troll gear to lvl up
Orange, blue, green, pink, black
Save it for later ones
Use w6s

ohhh so for example i bought 2 that mean orange and blue costs doesnt scale up?
I have to upgrade 6 or 8 Persephone's with w7s stones
Yup
That achievement name aged like milk

If it'd be 3, it'd be orange, blue and green, 4 would add pink and 5th would add nullo
@astral geyser check dr
I get 8 stones, Persephone's has 7 slots times 6 42 slots, on a 50% chance I need like 84 stones or more on average
Lol
hollyyyy
Why's your cd so low
Lol
That's average
I might need like 150 for all
And even then, I don't think it'll be enough
its over 6000..
@heavy flicker just for u
hi chat
wha up
Meow
th sky
no
meow
bets on how my 97 arcade balls will do?
the closest guess to my sadness at the end will win a high five
launching
hello my favorite gay cat.
what.
no
I said
Hello my favourite gay cat (I'm not gay nor a cat)
no you didn't, now shush
mreow
how are ya
Cooked
I could have said I will be the idleoner that kills tusk too but I didn't 
Good tusky.
No
what did i say ?
neither of those please and thank you
how DARE you
WHAT DID I SAY
Good.
Tusky.
do you HATE me... 
I'm just gonna remove you
i dont
Hey bob
How's your day been
oh, yes two flags
oke
Lol
Was it okay? Good then
can we trade item between our character
yes with storage
tired
yea
no like, what did i say
cuz it seems to be very important
Oh it's imperative to the human race
I think I remember people saying crawlers or samurai guardians or worms
I remember seeing people there I believe hmm, dont have samurai tho so
meh imma just push with him ig
Wurms for w5, think w7 is deckhands
How you doing man? Been a while since we've seen you here
I'm doing good ftm
Not bad, just got home from work. Relaxing.
Nice!
Figured I'd pop by to say hi to people.

meoww. ?
What languages do to us...
I sometimes forget words in my mother tongue 
What they doing at your mothers toung
Isn't that how it's said?
Let me rephrase it: I sometimes forget words from my main language.
Better?
I dont know how to say it either just making jokes
slowly loads spray bottle
meow
why did you have to ruin it
you said it just fine 
It was correct
Oh well
Perfection 
what k you jealous good boy
is it ideal to equip this?
of course, thats how u will progress
what the fuck
meow :|
Unless you don't want colour bonuses to unlock/level up!
How do i get more palette slots!
Ghost ping
That's why he shoots us in this game π
@jaunty prism are u still here?
what
Your eyes do not deceive you, that is another nothing bonus 
me after seeing that

Oh you not in the bad area yet
a heart attack again
Think it's jade emporium and was it spelunk? Can't remember where you get the 4th one
And yes you want that to level up colors, find new ones and get more bits
what for

I'm asking for help achivement
help achievement?
How do you get the multi here?
Thanks i'll check it out
give arm and leg as sacrifice to cave god

Wdym multi?
Like get more hours per afk
You leave your dudes afk there
That's it
Big RIP
And then the hours compound or somethin whatever the math is? π
I also am wondering, since I can barely fight off the napkin π€
what is the best way to farm power statues
Won't let me lick the gem!
||finallyyyy, YOU REALLY GOTTA DO YOUR TD LOL please dont neglect it||
this one is a huge sausage
No im neglecting it
@heavy flicker's hungry
eat me
Seek medical help 
help me
meow

hello father
can someone help me with w1 achivements
no
try #party-finder-πͺ if not here
Aint paying child support 
you cannot avoid it
A cry for help 
your brain when you realize your auto is 'off' and not 'on' after a break
time to play dadish
I am 100 meters away from you
Hey y'all, I'm new to the game, about a week in, I can't figure out how to actually use this website to see what I need for each world to be considered "ready for the next one" I'm at 5/6 classes at the elite by brute force pushing world 4 with any candies I could get, any one have any advice on reading this, or info on what exactly to be doing next? Right now I'm just skilling. https://idleontoolbox.com/account/misc/general?profile=Mr_Forehead
The site just contains all of your accounts info, in a nice gigantic bite size piece. You're able to see info, stats, equipment, etc. As a newer player myself I'd use it just to compare value, and to check how far along you are. To actually use it for your progression I'd say you'd need to know the progression to then guage what you need. Ask some questions, and maybe someone here can do a review π
Thanks! If someone did a review they'd probably go crazy lol, my equipment is probably #1, but who knows lol.
There is also a self-review site. I checked it out last night, but I do not suggest you use it, unless again you know what your progression looks like or will look like. Basically the answer to your earlier question, but there's wayy too much info just open lol
best i could do 
You can use it, I just mean it's very info-thiccccc
RIP and its not a gif anymore 
Anyone wanna review this guys account, help him out? π
They just started 1 week ago the review is : play the game 

I'm having so much fun with the game lol, there's so much stuff though, I got to world 4 and the lab honestly seems like the biggest pile of garbage I've ever seen π€£
no way am I uploading characters to stay there while I push
It's really helpful, might smell like the dentist, but you gotta
Only need to lock like 2-3 chars in, switch em out every now and then
Bro actually made it a gif
Lab gives 2x kills for portals though 
Helps pushing
wat do

borger, peapod, refill, RNG
What's peapod
Should I use bloood berserker or divine to push? I feel like my kills per hour should be higher, but im peaking at like 3.2k
dog
Do you plan on pushing active or afk
Active I think
Divine knight
BB for idle, DK for active
Hmmm i don't have it unlocked
I also have bubo, but for some reason I don't get the kill speeds people get
Which world is it?
Need high level tenteye (lvl 200 min) to start getting these numbers
its over
Also, how does multikill work? I just bought a gem chip, and got the multikill bonus +15%, but I don't really get the multikill thing, I have deathnote, but dont feel like its doing anything
its only the first "?"
Can try rattler instead of peapod
oh rip
If you have enough accruacy and 2x damage you get multikill (accruacy bar in afk info turns purple) which helps with portal clears and base mob drop farming
Did you use the infinite entries talent after losing 
Hey guys is there any way to rename characters?
No, new account or character
No. I already used it awhile ago when i was doing Arena
Which shiny should i get?
How can I post pictures in here? I'm getting 1586 kills per hour at Demon genies, level 104 divine knight, I feel like it should be higher, with 100% hit and survivability
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Hi sheebar
Hi Blobbleu
Aim to get more damage, you need to have 2X their HP in damage to proc multikill, and this should help you push faster. There is also a lab node that can help, it's killer brightside, gives 2X amount of kill
Lmao
better than nothing
I had purp and snake like 10 times in a row each π
Check IT
Nope thats about it
hi sheebar
Yeah, me too. Ive gotten 1 shellslug (already had it)and the rest have been the white rarities 
Hi Tusk
They always show good stuff and then end up with white
Toolbox?
I don't even look anymore until the roll is finished
yuh it shows each does what
Shiny speed shinies
Hi blob
How are yer finals going 
Done, waiting for the results now 
Huge 
That's a bit low
1483/1894 
Research exp ramps up later the more points you put into exp% stuff dw 
is there a character creation order guide
start with 2 of each so you get all subclasses
2 of each class (2 warrior 2 mage 2 archer)
Then one of each subclass
Boredom doea more than that to the mf 
7th character is secret class and the other three can be done like this: another squire, another wizard, another bowman (or keep the bowman as begginer)
Secret class then
oh lord,
7552 coffe mugs is too much 
You can delay secret class until 10th if you want
?wiki quests
For W4 lab, if you have 10 characters slots use 8 in lab 1 pushing 1 getting Elite class (4th map i think) after getting elite class it go in lab and another one push
Your goal is W5 to start divinity grind, more info when you get there
TD do
I got a 3rd doot today 
Lab jail never ends 
Afat,,
Why Afat,,
No, HOW??
Lava's favorite 
2 riptides, glunko and 3 doots. Bro's lava's favorite
problem is, he's x3 stronger than my attacker for some reason, he's 2300~ or smthing
Green red or black
All in on red
Why does this lower fuel/hour
Alright time to do all my idleslayer daily spins on red
Re*d the normal campfires description
Ah
Nobody: 
Reading: 
Censor that word 
No I need it for exams 
Tbf I havent re*d the upgrades since the feature came out. I only just recently got the green fire 
Did dado quit the game 
Haven't seen them in ages
Clipped 
Idk lemme check last message sent
3days ago 
People are praying on your downfall


