Get all links in one
#off-topic-chat
smoky juniper
dry barn
How did it correct to smithing link what
smoky juniper
Far cheaper
dry barn
The all smithing links at once is just too many gems
vapid mesa
No need for decks
vapid mesa
It's way way cheaper in the long to run. It's like, 700?
dry barn
It's still correcting to smithing links how
700 is gonna take like a month to save for I'd reckon
What a nightmare
smoky juniper
A month for 700 seems very slow
vapid mesa
Hoops + arcade
dry barn
It probably is but for me that's roughly how long itd take me atm
For one I fail horribly on hoops
And the arcade doesnt get me many gems a day
dry barn
Maybe like 1-7 gems per day on arcade
smoky juniper
What is your ball limit?
dry barn
Ball limit for me is like 16 atm
smoky juniper
Balls return on average 0.6 gems
dry barn
Hmm
Either way looks like I've hit a wall for now
Each ball takes bout 5 mins and my cap is 16
I think 5 mins anyways
Not sure
vapid mesa
Can't wait to hit civilization lv3. I just want planes
smoky juniper
I just want higher lvl civs with aliens and shit
And progress to see the eventual takeover by ai
Civilisation has so much potential tbh
And is so crap currently
dry barn
So.. gems are gonna be a pain
hazy isle
for gems you also have raid asylum and the vault... but not the vault the other one
but you are having a bad time with 700 while i need 5700
dry barn
Asylum well.. keys take a while and you still dont get too many gems
Vault maybe but I still wont get many
vapid mesa
Ok. Got mama mia build time down to 5 days. Which is decided better than the 33+ it was almost a week ago
Wondering if I should just go for it
smoky juniper
Well if you have nothing else to build... but I’d wait until at least 24 iiwy
steel dome
creams done.. now to focus on pets
dry barn
Looks like in terms of reaching the smithing cap the main main thing limiting me is fish
Well I'm at the cap for a lot of things but fish are a problem
eternal marten
Bottlenecked by fish? Dw soon enough you'll be drowning in them
steel dome
i wish i was drowning in fish. what a way to go
eternal marten
Idk honestly
Have you maxed hyper fishing?
dry barn
Currently got 1.9M power and my "fish" stat says 4.1t
eternal marten
No the hyper fishing craft
vapid mesa
I have.. So many fish
hazy isle
fish bundle hyper fish and the rainbow rod
dry barn
Ironically not getting enough fish to hit it
vapid mesa
They overwhelm my ore production
dry barn
My ore production is stupid high compared to my fishing
steel dome
im at the point where i dont really need ores/fish that much..
vapid mesa
I didn't even buy any fishing hats
Potions, crafts
Oh yea, enigmatic boosters
So much fish
smoky juniper
Boosters are the big fish boost
eternal marten
Oh yea do you have the fishing secret
steel dome
xylon, have you done the secrets at all?
hazy isle
i have every "normal" craft maxed
eternal marten
I didn't start using boosters properly until fish was already obsolete lol
smoky juniper
In early game and endgame you have more ore than fish, but all the rest of the time fish is the biggest one
vapid mesa
Once you get your smithing costs down, you get more boosters
eternal marten
Then start pounding enigmatic booster
eternal marten
Lower smithing cap
vapid mesa
Wait it's at 1B
eternal marten
The infinite perk gives great value early on
vapid mesa
And you still have low fish?
dry barn
It's currently at level 400
vapid mesa
Oh
eternal marten
Lolwut
dry barn
Enigmatic booster
steel dome
UP IT like you life depends on it
vapid mesa
Oh the smithing cost cap, gotcha.
eternal marten
Put all your perk points into lower smithing cap
dry barn
Fish production is holding me back on enigmatic booster
vapid mesa
Hmm
dry barn
I'm also nearly at my limit in this run and am getting little perk points
eternal marten
Ascend lol
dry barn
Let me check my gear
eternal marten
Oh yeah the tperk
dry barn
Nope none of my tinkering gear bits increase fish gain
vapid mesa
Also don't use rainbow rod or whatever if you need more small fish
That was an issue for me at one point
Sure they do, it's not a 3rd stat
steel dome
its going to get better the further you go, just keep upping fish bundle and hyper fishing when you can.
they might not be that far yet
how many tink equipment do you have open xylon?
dry barn
Hmm fish bundle where's that?
vapid mesa
Craft
dry barn
Also I have all equipment unlocked
dry barn
Tinkering is at like level 102
vapid mesa
That's higher than me 🤔
dry barn
Hmm alrighty I'll get either to 5 stars and then I'll consider which thing to replace
steel dome
save gems and buy decks
vapid mesa
If you buy all links, it opens those links too
Don't buy decks, you don't really need them
Links give you access to locked decks
dry barn
Guess I'll do carrot charms
steel dome
aqua, not for me o.O
vapid mesa
Gives you access. They're still locked
But add a link to one of them
Like, if I link a locked deck with training
Then go to training, go back to cards
Tada
steel dome
ahh
vapid mesa
Empty deck
steel dome
hax
dry barn
+1475%, I'll settle for that
steel dome
still gonna buy those decks, i hate seeing that buy button x)
vapid mesa
Lol. I will eventually, but I still have too many other useful things to buy
vapid mesa
57 days
dry barn
Is it possible to get tinkering equipment to 6 stars?
steel dome
83 days
vapid mesa
Lol xylon take a look though the #achievement-pics
steel dome
you have 97 days, and you lack so far behind??
vapid mesa
Eh, people play at different paces
steel dome
i guess im addicted a little bit too much then..
dry barn
I uhh.. dont read the wiki 24/7 and constantly consider how to be the most efficient
It's too taxing for me
Theres also been periods of like 5 days a few times where I didnt play at all
steel dome
i even built a cooler system for my phone because it kept overheating xD
dry barn
Great so I suck at the game.. wonderful
distant siren
same
steel dome
dont feel bad, didnt mean it like that. but to play the me's advocate, yeah you do.. a bit 😄
sorry, had to. i dont get to make that joke very often, because i dont talk much on anywhere these days.
dry barn
Alrighty
I'm probably falling behind tbh cause I never bothered much with pets and the like and I'm still not very far with tunnelling
vapid mesa
Personally I like reading wiki's and strategizing, so there's that. Different play style
dry barn
For me it's super exhausting to do that and gets me stressed out
vapid mesa
Man I jumped headfirst into pets. And pets was why I joined this server to ask all the questions
vapid mesa
I like pets as a game concept
steel dome
well its either wiki, or us
vapid mesa
It's the collector in me
dry barn
For pets I'm currently trying to get a certain build but I'm stuck cause all the pets are like 3 genetics and I dont think I've bred a single pet with 3 genetics yet
dry barn
I legit cant get a single pet with 3 genetics
Also then I wouldnt be very efficient
I'm tryina breed zeus bolts onto all the pets I need them on
eternal marten
Maybe they arent unlocked for you yet
vapid mesa
Get some more combos and let it chug along until you can easily get the builds
eternal marten
They come at some hatchery level
vapid mesa
It's not time efficient to do that early
dry barn
@eternal marten the ability to get 3 genetics?
eternal marten
Yea
steel dome
brb, gotta go suck refreshing air through tobacco and a filter.. and fire
smoky juniper
@eternal marten the ability to get 3 genetics?
@dry barn lvl 40 has a 2/3 of a percent chance or something which is the first level
vapid mesa
Oh that's not possible then
dry barn
Then idk what to do I guess
vapid mesa
Is it?
eternal marten
Anyway don't worry too much about your progress, I've barely finished the ice creams and my secret civ says 449 days lol
So you know your efficiency isnt as bad as mine
smoky juniper
Then idk what to do I guess
@dry barn boost hatchery level?
dry barn
Only way to do that is by well, hatching stuff
smoky juniper
Breeding higher lvl valued pets gives more exp
eternal marten
Yeah boss pets go zoom
vapid mesa
And just... Keep doing that
dry barn
I guess but I'll end up with a stupid bad trekking team
vapid mesa
:/
eternal marten
It's alright to have a bad trekking team early on
raw folioBOT
The Asylum Boss has been defeated by a player! What an absolute UNIT! 
vapid mesa
You're focusing on the wrong thing to progress
dry barn
Also what's even the point of breeding them with the boss pets then if I'm getting a random team
Might as well just put random stuff in there
vapid mesa
And it'll impede you
dry barn
I mean my tekking team for most of the game was random pets and I've barely progressed at all in trekking tbh..
eternal marten
What is your team? Some semblance of combos are important
dry barn
My team was literally just random
I have no clue when it comes to combos
I also dont currently have one atm
eternal marten
Just toss bear panda frog deer together
steel dome
i progressed slowly on trekking, but it got stupid fast after getting the demon pet and occulon pet <.<
dry barn
I have the occulon pet
vapid mesa
Mine jumped after I took the time to lv them up
eternal marten
Mine went crazy after I gave in and hyper egg'd gorshank
steel dome
hyper egged?
dry barn
I also have gorshank I believe
eternal marten
Yeah gave up on getting it through keys
steel dome
ohh
dry barn
Hmm can I post an image anywhere?
eternal marten
Yeah just screenshot and attach it
steel dome
if i remember right, i got the gorshank pet like on second try x) have had that for ages.
eternal marten
Lucky bastard
dry barn
Here is what I've got my nests set to atm
steel dome
occulon took longer, 40-45 tries on bell 11
eternal marten
YOU'VE GOT SCALLIUS?
Damn I'm jealous
vapid mesa
How fast can you breed the boss pets?
eternal marten
Nah if you had it from a hyper egg the platform would be green
vapid mesa
Why are you so focused on builds? Once you need to level them you'll have to rebuild
Not worth
dry barn
@eternal marten I unlocked it from a hyper egg
eternal marten
Anyway, put two gorshank together and just level them
dry barn
But I deleted by accident
vapid mesa
Yes
dry barn
Then claimed from codex
hazy isle
how can you ... just ...
dry barn
That's why it's not green
vapid mesa
Put all boss pets into all nests
smoky juniper
Levelling definitely best thing to aim for with the levels you have currently. Boss pets will level slower than normal pets.
vapid mesa
Keep hatching and replacing with higher levels
dry barn
CM says they level slower
smoky juniper
Well it doesn’t really matter which you level with as once you have one pet at a decent level it is very quick to use that to get all pets up to that level.
steel dome
smoky juniper
But, the higher the id the larger the chance of getting higher levels per generation. And boss pets, for levelling purposes count as id 1
vapid mesa
You honestly just need one breed of pet at a high level
smoky juniper
So the best things to power level on is the highest id you have that you can breed quickly
vapid mesa
Personally I used slime to start out with, but gorshank was hella faster
While still maintaining the 10 min speed
hazy isle
i just wish i had occulon pet
steel dome
it will come, sooner or later
dry barn
@hazy isle save for a hyper egg I guess?
vapid mesa
Are you not save scumming?
hazy isle
save what?
vapid mesa
Oh boy
dry barn
@eternal marten also I'll have to claim another gorshank from the codex when I can
vapid mesa
You can keep hatching the egg until it's what you want
eternal marten
Hatch hyper egg -> pet you don't want? -> closegame immediately -> come back in -> hyper egg back
vapid mesa
By force closing the game right after hatching
steel dome
pfff
hazy isle
does it work on pc
steel dome
hax
hazy isle
if not 'im doom
smoky juniper
Yes
smoky juniper
You can save scum on pc but it takes longer to refresh the page
So it’s a bit tedious
Especially with my slow internet 😛
steel dome
i never knew about that, and now im going to forget it. 🙂
eternal marten
Aight you guys have inspired me to finally hyper egg scallius
hazy isle
so bassicly i open the egg, not what i want, close the tab and reopen it?
smoky juniper
Yeah.
steel dome
imma rely on my luck to get everything sooner or later. kek
smoky juniper
Whilst slower, pc is actually better for it, because the rng seed can get stuck on android which I’ve never known happen on pc
eternal marten
What's an rng seed?
smoky juniper
Random numbers aren’t truly random. I won’t go into depth about generations as if you don’t know, I’m not gonna give a compsci lecture, but they are seeded.
vapid mesa
It's basically a formula based on the seed
smoky juniper
For a basic example say your rng was using digits of pi. With the same seed (starting point) you would always get the same ‘random number’
eternal marten
Oh how often does it happen in gba games? It always seems to happen when I use save states in Emerald
dry barn
Also something to watch out for when it comes to save scumming pets I ended up getting the same seed every time when I did wasting a lot of time
smoky juniper
I wouldn’t know that specifically. All these games are differently managed after all
dry barn
Make sure to do stuff to change the seed I guess before hatching
smoky juniper
That’s why I brought it up
eternal marten
Yeah you should try it on a normal egg first to test
hazy isle
final fking lee
dry barn
If you just keep closing and reopening, hatching, closing again etc without doing anything else you'll waste a looot of time
smoky juniper
Pc version just runs on flash which obviously has quite a good rng, but on android it does seem to have problems on occasion.
eternal marten
Wait will pc version be shutting down at the end of the year then?
steel dome
no problems if you dont use exploits 👀
smoky juniper
Wait will pc version be shutting down at the end of the year then?
@eternal marten just cos flash will no longer be getting updates doesn’t suddenly make it unusable
vapid mesa
Lava would have patched it if he wanted to
golden ivy
isn't flash actually shutting down though
vapid mesa
This is his discord after all
eternal marten
Flash was still getting updates?
steel dome
auto save after every action is a solution 😄
normal gale
It's getting pulled from google
smoky juniper
Even if newer browsers refuse to run it you can keep an older browser version or just download the game and play offline, or whatever. Programs don’t inherently know the date so they don’t know if they are brand new or years old 😛
steel dome
but it would be quite a hit on the games performance.. i think
distant siren
hackers
smoky juniper
Flash is a program. If you have it downloaded even if it “shuts down” it doesn’t just delete itself from your computer
golden ivy
@steel dome it already does that
steel dome
it does? o.O sometimes does not seem like it 😄
smoky juniper
I can still run Microsoft word 2003 for example. Flash will still be useable but new browser updates will probably make it incompatible with them
paper jay
AAAAAHHHHH why drop the pet?, I used more of 700 keys and i can't get the card
smoky juniper
Either way, if you download flash projector or some program to host it on your computer you’ll be able to download and play any flash game regardless of compatibility
That being said, that shouldn’t give lava an excuse not to give us a CROSS PLATFORM SAVE METHOD so I can move to bluestacks 😄
paper jay
Ah
steel dome
how do you have so much keys?
eternal marten
Want a card? Come complain to discord apparently
smoky juniper
I burnt through 12k keys the other day. 700 isn’t much.
eternal marten
Yeah I get ~300 keys a day
smoky juniper
Occulon x card mostly
eternal marten
And that will only go up
steel dome
o.O i have been missing something then. i get like 15 keys a day 😄
dry barn
Okay my fish stat is at 70 trillion now it's becoming a lot faster to get enigmatic boosters
I might use a candy on fishing just to see how high I can get it
smoky juniper
Also masteries give up to 28% more on top of that
steel dome
@smoky juniper okay, gonna get that card then.
smoky juniper
Well 9.6x boost if you want to get fussy 😛
And obviously contract rewards give 2x with the dairy upgrade
steel dome
hmm
eternal marten
The contract dairy will take forever tho
9 star damage is no joke
I'm ~150k 3 stars right now
steel dome
im at 4 right now..
steel dome
why does botany trace farming succ.
compared to other traces, botany is the slowest one of them all. and i hate it. with passion
smoky juniper
Idk smithing is pretty bad
Having to ascend just to get more
At least botany you can just keep going with
dry barn
Huh?
steel dome
botany is like hurr durr here is 29k 😄
dry barn
I feel like the world would be in a much better more advanced place if you could use candies on tunnelling stuff
steel dome
nah
smoky juniper
Well everyone who had a few would have just instantly reached endgame
dry barn
It would just solve all the issues of the world
steel dome
naaaaaaah 😄
dry barn
@smoky juniper lol true
Some of these wait times are certainly painful though
Especially for important stuff being built that will help a lot with progression
steel dome
welp, gotta go sleep. 1:30 am 👀
vapid mesa
Tinkering gear is great for botany traces
dry barn
Yo! Have a good rest ^-^
vapid mesa
And cards
dry barn
Goodnight
vapid mesa
Gnight
smoky juniper
So like I could get behind a candy system that says you can use x hours per day on a section like tunnelling or pets, but considering how many hundreds I have, and I’m on pc and missed out on 200 daily ones in the last 6 months, with unlimited use, we would all have just finished the update within days
steel dome
thanks, bye everyone o/
vapid mesa
Honestly I haven't used any candies yet.. Can never decide what I'd use them on
dry barn
I have 0 candies atm
I usually used em to get new plants in botany when the chances got super low
Although I've unlocked all the plants I need for now and can reach em quite easily so... I dont have too much use atm but I have some
vapid mesa
The potion that ups exotic flowers chances is great
dry barn
I think I've unlocked all potions that up exotic flower chances by now
vapid mesa
Every time you fail, chances go up whoo
smoky juniper
Does that potion work for you guys?
vapid mesa
Yup
smoky juniper
I’ve never noticed it having an effect at all
dry barn
Sure does most of the time
smoky juniper
Probably a pc thing
vapid mesa
I've purposefully harvested at 1 OG to get new flowers
smoky juniper
Probably definitely a pc thing
smoky juniper
Like I can be 40%, fail, and still be 40%.
eternal marten
Yeah exactly
eternal marten
If I savescum hoops I can get 100 gems per day :o
smoky juniper
It would definitely have made botany easier when I was doing the later darkmode stuff
But I’m all done with that shit a long time ago now so who cares really. It’s obviously not a necessary potion. Just I guess a nice little helper
dry barn
Is savescumming hoops even possible?
vapid mesa
It restarts the trial, if you close before the ball leaves the screen
dry barn
So if you're about to get a low score on 1 of the 3 hoops exit before the ball counts?
Oh wait, just on the 1st rather
dry barn
So as long as you dont complete the minigame you can exit and it wont save?
eternal marten
Its hard for me lol
dry barn
Same invisible
eternal marten
I average 8 or 9 each try
dry barn
Saaame
eternal marten
It gets easier once i pass 10 tho
smoky juniper
So as long as you dont complete the minigame you can exit and it wont save?
@dry barn exit the game not the screen. And has to be before the ball leaves the screen
Yeah first 10 are hard
10-30 are easier
30+ gets hard again
My highest score is in the 50s now but I got hoops pet with a max score of 37
dry barn
So then it should only work on the 1st right? Unless the minigame only saves when you miss and the ball falls
Then again youd get to the 2nd hoop only after a ball fell so..
smoky juniper
It will work on all, leaving the game will save you scores from first one or two attempts
dry barn
So I can then reenter the minigame and redo that attempt?
vapid mesa
Three trials. You can close out at any time while the ball is still on screen and it'll reset the current trial
eternal marten
Yes
Dont yall just hate it when hoops gives you that placement where you have a single frame to throw and get it in
dry barn
Lmao
Wow I'm getting like 50k kills per kill this feels insane XD
Huh the smithing cap just doubled out of nowhere.. that's odd
strong ore
hoops never really needs that much precision
hexed quartz
Yay, I finally got my doom gauntlet above my galaxial slasher
raw folioBOT
A user has successfully killed a boss! Congrats to them!
frail cedar
golden ivy
Me
fickle prism
Welp I'm finally a true Weaboo my body pillow came in the mail
molten blade
anyone run into bug where the key master in maelstrom does not drop a key?
cause i have 74million kills and nothing
wispy dagger
Keyp trying
vapid mesa
Did you kill it on-screen?
molten blade
i think thats the issue i do miilions of kills away from screen but none on screen 😦
vapid mesa
Yup, must be killed on-screen to drop keys
granite hamlet
Ugh
There is a thirteenth zodiac sign
The 13th Zodiac sign is called Ophiuchus and it’s the star sign for people born between November 29 and December 17.
That, of course, has a knock-on effect for every other sign, meaning the traits and personalities associated with each star sign may no longer be applicable to you.
I rather liked the 12 signs
eager geyser
man getting red research ( last set) going to be forever
kind rover
Wow wtf it's been 5 days since lava gave us an update on the announcement!!!
It has been 0 days since something interesting has happened.
distant siren
its 5 hours until the update boys
fickle prism
Wait the new update? I figured that was still a bit off (haven't been keeping up on it much)
tropic ruin
A select few alpha testers will get the update in about 9 days
distant siren
not what i meant
distant siren
what happened to #best-suggestions-✅
fleet ivy
What's wrong with it?
paper jay
obsidian sapphire
Has anyone completed mastery?
tropic ruin
No since its literly impossible
obsidian sapphire
has anyone completed all tasks that are currently possible?
old tusk
u get it once u beat th63 @tropic ruin
tropic ruin
Does Negative Cash count then?
old tusk
idk
tropic ruin
Also im nowhere near Infinite Damage
old tusk
but if u beat th63 u get glitched weird somehow only visual but unspendable max cash
which completes the mastery
old tusk
it count's for the mastery 🤷♂️
tropic ruin
Without that its likely impossible
tropic ruin
Unless you have about 100 Trillion Centuries
old tusk
gotta grind hard(er)
smoky juniper
When lava mentions NPCs all I can think is that Idle Skilling 2: Open world RPG might not be so far from the truth after all 
golden hawk
I´m so damn hyped I could fall asleep every second
smoky juniper
Looking at my badonkadonk potion I've now spent around 41k balls. Just under 10k more than 5 weeks ago. I think at that time I had a few thousand stacked more than I do now, but even so, probably averaging over 200 a day. And considering I don't log in every day, and certainly only collect ball from arcade 1-2 a day, that's pretty good going I think 🙂
41k balls only 1 jackpot though. Sad times.
shy merlin
I just got the basketball pet
And
I didn't get him...
He is not in the codex
Nor in the inventory
Should i kill myelf or
golden ivy
Tfw the homies are asleep
smoky juniper
asleep? But it's lunch time!
old tusk
time zones are a lie
obsidian sapphire
How much gems do y'all have in your stash?
golden hawk
2900
patent tinsel
7
smoky juniper
Well I’ve spent 8k in the last week, but about 1k currently
ocean creek
What did you spend on cm? Misc items?
smoky juniper
Actually that was finishing off diamond piping 😛
Although I’ve spent near 15k on miscs
ocean creek
Ahh ok I see
Wondering what to do with my gems atm but think I'm gonna keep saving for update
smoky juniper
Probably wise. Piping is pretty unnecessary
But I wanted to push for research 400 and having levelled up my tanks horribly, this was the only way
ocean creek
I think I'll be able to hit 400 with only diamond on my bloods
I only ever put enough RP for 1k levels on my blood tanks, just waiting for however much RP I need to get 400 now.
But maybe not, some say you have to have not put any in 2nd and 3rd slots, idk
smoky juniper
Yeah I had everything up to 2000+ before realising I should avoid bottom 2 upgrades. Sigh.
I still think 400 is possible it’s just become insanely hard
I’m 95% sure I’ll get 400. 370 now and I think I’ve calculated I can just do it. The biggest help is actually from Foreward
After I got to 2000 and stopped levelling I haven’t done anything until getting over trespasser 550, and foreward potion boosts tank exp
ocean creek
Ooh solid. Good luck I'm sure you'll get there or lava will make it easier.
twin hound
...
Can I upgrade Cygnus now?
I can more than double the levels of my basic potions if I level those ones up
And trying to boost crop gain is a painful ordeal
true dirge
i guess u can wait a while more
distant siren
if i eere you
were you
id play something else and forget about the game until update hits
smoky juniper
Can I upgrade Cygnus now?
@twin hound current meta is only upgrade them when you have offscreen inf damage as it pushes you through to onscreen inf damage. Probably somewhere around when your potions are 2k or more
golden hawk
@smoky juniper Someone reached infinite damage without using those potions at all? ^^
turbid grotto
Hype
dry barn
I did it! Reached 1 star solar damage(although after crit)
woven apex
Help screen overhaul confirmed? (Future content blog)
golden hawk
or a single new screen that just tells us to go to hell expecting him to work on that ^^
dry barn
AAA I really need gray cards but I just keep getting green ones I have like nearly 400 green cards by now and like 10 gray ones
Oof
I wish there were cards that actually decreased rarer card chances or some way to convert backwards
sour socket
there is a blue tank in research that gives grey cards for picking up other star cards
fleet ivy
@dry barn take all your card chance cards off and you'll get grey cards again
dry barn
Wont I get less cards in general then?
fleet ivy
No
You're limited to a certain number a day either way
Plus once you get max attack speed you should get like 1/4 your daily max every time you visit the screen
dry barn
Okay I'll take off all my card drop chance cards then
dry barn
Huh? Why?
fleet ivy
You don't have to dismantle the whole deck
dry barn
I only took two cards out
Not that big a deal
Replaced one with maelstrom glitch cause fish and ores
fleet ivy
Once you get that tank cards are cake to get
fleet ivy
Basically every time you get a card that's not grey you get up to like 3 grey cards
Additive
sacred hinge
3 of 200
dry barn
Hmm I'll have a dedicated fish card then rather than one that boosts ores and fish
Zaposi looks good
fleet ivy
Fish is easily gotten by boosting enigmatic booster in crafting
smoky juniper
@smoky juniper Someone reached infinite damage without using those potions at all? ^^
@golden hawk I guess it’s possible, just painful lol
dry barn
Btw which monster has the 2nd kills boosting card, not key master o rather
I'll go and quickly get their card and add that
fleet ivy
!wiki
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Monster health for every zone, card drop info, tinkering material sources, potion discovery materials, AP and BP perk info, secret unlock info and more can all be found in our Wiki!.
Check it out here at:
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fleet ivy
!cards
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golden hawk
@smoky juniper I know it´s painful because I´m trying to reach it..... and I´m only at 7Q with trespasser 545. And I don´t have pots or foa that low that they could make that all up.
smoky juniper
7q no cards equipped you mean?
golden hawk
yes
I´ll probably be able to crack TH63 without those pots....but after that ^^ Not a chance
smoky juniper
Yeah, that’s pretty much what I said. Doing it offscreen is possible without the pots, but the damage jump to doing it on screen almost definitely needs them. What’s your total potion level currently?
dry barn
Oh it's the incarnates that drop it, I'm nowhere near them lol
golden hawk
188k
dry barn
Still got an empty slot I guess and idk what to do with it
golden hawk
there´s still a little room but by far not enough to reach QQ damage ^^
smoky juniper
So I'm 241k total potions actually, but around the same damage as you
golden hawk
and I already have the most important damage tinkering things at 10k+
did you level those pots?
smoky juniper
not yet
golden hawk
To be fair ^^ I don´t touch potions I don´t need
So there´s much room for improvement
smoky juniper
yeah I had a go pushing all of them a little while back
I definitly feel like theres not much more damage I can get
golden hawk
I only switch between godly and the few black potions ^^
it all comes down to how far I get with trespassers....And I have several more white/blood tanks to upgrade. This might give me quite some damage but not enough
smoky juniper
What's your foa, I think mines a little low, but I'm really struggling to push it
fleet ivy
Botany is too broken for me to deal with potions anymore
smoky juniper
lol
smoky juniper
It is such a nuisence to push. I'm 225, but I have no clue how to get higher, but I think I recall some people being up to 240 or so
could be wrong though
golden hawk
Even tough I want to get as much as possible I´m way too lazy to switch stuff just to push foa
maybe I´ll crack it after the update
smoky juniper
even with optimising and swapping I can't push further. Trekking is really all thats left. And maybe a final tank push, I'm not quite to 400 research, although I think I can make it
golden hawk
I upgraded 4/5 blood tanks....only one to go and 4/5 white tanks....I doubt there are enough damage multipliers even though I´ll easily get 4k+ on each of them
smoky juniper
I think I can get 400 without getting above 3300 on any of them
golden hawk
you sure?
smoky juniper
pretty sure
golden hawk
I somehow doubt that tho
smoky juniper
foreward potion gives tank exp. And I haven't levelled any of them for ages, and am now starting again with tresspasser 550+
I'm on 370, and while all my tanks are around 2k at the moment, I did one blood tank, got to 3200/3300/2900 with 15qq rp and that gave me 7 levels, so by my calculations I'll just make it
But we will have to see
golden hawk
30 levels are a HUGE amount ^^
I used all the bonuses as well and I got to 404 with 3 tanks at 3800 and one at 4200
If you upgrade every tank you might barely get it. But I wouldn´t take that risk
well....risk ^^ He has to change something anyways
smoky juniper
Well there isn't much else for me to do. I foolishly had them all to 2k before I relalised that was dumb
and should have waited on the 2nd and 3rds
so I just stopped and waited for trekking
to give me enough extra exp, but I can't push that much more either now
golden hawk
well....you can get 1000 more levels
that´s quite something if you make good use of it
dry barn
Okay after rebitthing and taking on the 3rd ice cream my damage right off the bat is 1401QQ normal damage this isnt looking good..
golden hawk
the infinite perks are another option to get some good damage....
smoky juniper
yeah I could rebirth and respec the rp ones into damage maybe
golden hawk
well for me it´s upgrading perk passives first ^^ But theoretically yes
something´s off O_O I only have 1/8th of my damage 😦
smoky juniper
that's odd
golden hawk
well....it went somewhere so I´ll probably be able to get it back
sour socket
so whats the story behind part 3 of the breaker?
golden hawk
they always double the amount of chapters
sour socket
oh
sour socket
yea
golden hawk
probably
smoky juniper
hey Shadow you're green
golden hawk
I´ll wait my whole life for that part ^^
sour socket
he just got green
like a minute ago
i should be close too honestly
i need 1k exp to be green
old tusk
@golden hawk congrats on being green
golden hawk
....lmao
smoky juniper
The problem is as the activity on the discord has been dropping, and the percentage of chat taken up by a small percent of people increases, more and more people who talk are gonna end up being green
proportionately
golden hawk
And in case madhouse ever animates the breaker (or even solo levelling) I´ve lived a happy life 🙂
sour socket
solo level and the breaker would look really good animated
golden hawk
Screw one punch man ^^ Muratas drawing is 10 times better than any art studio could make it anyways ^^
sour socket
the first season was good
golden hawk
better because madhouse is the best option
but still not even close to what murata can do ^^
In case you read the manga ^^
sour socket
the recent chapters have been nuts
golden hawk
well they´re all definitely good
sour socket
yea
dry barn
Not good.. I get enough kills per kill to insta complete the monster upon 1 kill but I have 49 to go and it already takes like 30 seconds to kill the current monster
I dunno if I'll be able to do this
modern cobalt
65 again ;-;
fickle prism
Watching that ball fall all the way down the right side only for it to take a left on the last bump
I'm a broken man
dry barn
That sounds horribly unlucky damn
wispy dagger
You'll get one eventually...
mellow lynx
I can't get the snow pot card after a lot of kills
dry barn
Welp I didnt think I'd be able to do it but ice cream 3 complete
eager geyser
aww I was ROBBED... My Hoop Score was 38. BUT it counted as 31. The only thing I can think of it 2 point hoops dont count. over all.......MAN and here I was like YAY Im getting the 37 Score/ Hoop Pet
golden ivy
Can i say
steel dome
hnggh, had to give up and start to use auto clicker... crusader maxing is a pain x)
hows everyone doing today?
hexed quartz
Wow, for so long you’re like, I’ll never have enough vessels. And then very suddenly you have no use for vessels even though you can make so many!
kind rover
Hey guys, Velvet Void Studios is about to reveal something big. I can't wait for the next chapter in their gaming division.
hexed quartz
Is it a sequel to chicken odyssey? https://sites.google.com/view/chickenodyssey/chicken-odyssey
kind rover
No, the Announcement!
hexed quartz
Bummer 😉
foggy thorn
is it the dating site one
echo topaz
Did lava forget about snippet #5?
hexed quartz
ok, I wanted to move on but since #_ has been 30 minutes of mocking me, I'll address it here.
One of the best things about this game, is the welcoming, helpful community here in this discord. The community has helped me a bunch and personally, I'd like to pay it forward.
I think the senior members of this community share that responsibility and taking a dismissive tone with the goals of other senior players runs counter to that responsibility. This isn't about helping junior players who need guidance. At a certain level everyone can find their own fun in the game.
I tried, unsuccessfully to make that point to a specific senior member of the community in #_ tonight and he doesn't agree. I've blocked that person so I don't have to deal with them anymore. I'd ask everyone else to move on in #_, or if you must, mock me in #550107059920699392.
golden hawk
It´s about brave in case people are wondering 🙂
kind rover
It took some scrolling but I see what the issue is (didn't read everything yet, will do so when I get some time. I want to make sure no one is insulting others over this)
Pretty much comes down to squeezing small things vs skipping them for bigger boosts. In the end, it all matters. Obviously people wanna get the best bang for their buck (time) but eventually people have to go for minor boosts to get past milestones.
Although with so much content in the game, you can generally avoid extreme micromanagement.
As someone who is at the endest of end games, I spend my time visiting everything to grab a small boost so I can reach the next level of FoA (currently 273).
golden hawk
if you´re lazy you gotta make a video of how to properly farm foa 🙂 I still didn´t get it after your explanation and I need more damage so badly
kind rover
Yeah I just can't upload more than 8mb to discord and I don't have my computer to upload proper YouTube vids. If I had an easy avenue I'd totally show what I do
hexed quartz
what do you do?
golden ivy
This game on PC?
kind rover
You'd have to search my history for the deep explanation (could just search 272/273 from me until you see something)
Basically it's crusade gear, pachi, hp deck exploits, claw builds, best card and decks for damage
Yes on Kongregate and Steam, a bit buggy though. Ascension numbers are sadly broken on pc
pallid hazel
golden ivy
Anyone know any other good games like this
rigid coral
Not true. NGU Idle and WAMI are both decent.
Not as clean or visually interesting but better than something simple like Adventure Capitalist
golden ivy
WAMI is a good idle game with an atrocious art style
golden ivy
It's the perfect example of function over form
rigid coral
Oh uhhh fuckin uhhh....
Realm Grinder. That one is a good one with a good amount of depth and visually the best
golden ivy
Once you get into reincarnations it slows down quite a bit
I quit at r7 because that shit was too slow
I mean r11
rigid coral
I think I stopped around r18
Really annoying min-maxing needed to push each new R that isn't exactly clear
golden ivy
If you need a guide on how to progress there's a problem with your game
rigid coral
I like helpful wikis for games, like Terraria or Minecraft, but when you have no context clues on how to progress... yea that's no bueno
kind rover
Realm grinder was great, then they did the UI + graphical overhaul and the game went to complete shit
topaz solar
when was this?
kind rover
They needlessly complicated the UI and made it hard to see shit
This was years ago iirc
topaz solar
I don't mind the UI
kind rover
It used to be simple ms paint stuff and fast navigation
sour socket
woo all of my vats are fully upgraded
kind rover
Realm grinder introduced me to bearded fairies. You can't get any crazier than that
sour socket
lol
twin hound
Ummm.... Am I seeing this right? Is the "adventure mode" going to be a platformer?
Might as well be a new game at this point
rigid coral
Maybe it will be a MapleStory style fighting mobs
mossy coral
golden ivy
can't wait the next few months
vale flicker
Yo is that toilet paper on the stick thingy in #💖future-content-blog or am I crazy
Someone back me up here
golden ivy
Thats just maybe a new area in Trekking
idle yoke
Hello
paper jay
Lavaflame2 is thinking a history whit literally shit?
modern cobalt
the toilet paper thing looks like a grave from terraria
golden ivy
Maybe a minigame where you can do some PARKOUR PARKOUR
paper jay
SHIT PARKOUR
turbid thistle
Nuclear Take: I want my idle game to be more idle. Last major updates have been less idle 😦 .
humble oracle
Everbody:
GIVE US LAME NPC GIF
Lava:
NO U WONT
Thats not a gif Lava
And not a LAME npc either
wispy dagger
The highest voted option was a random snapshot\snippet not gif
Also it has to be lame to hide the good stuff you'll find on your own as you play the update
Spoilers but not mega over kill spoilers
wispy dagger
It is upside down
golden ivy
Not really but yes
wispy dagger
Uhh.. Flipped
I do like the detail that Lava has put into the patterns on the wall though... It is very crisp and has a clean feel to it
golden ivy
Yes
wispy dagger
He's probably combining his original idea where he let pets run around with something else
golden ivy
Maybe a new skill in Pets ?
wispy dagger
It could be a lot of different things... I'm not sure how adding a new skill for pets would work out... Other than using pets in other locations or something
kind rover
He deleted the first pic he put up, which basically was a crow on some ruins in front of a tree with a golden portal in front. It basically looked like a 2d version of firelink shrine, but with a gold portal. And the crow had a hardhat lol.
fleet ivy
Worker crow
wispy dagger
hmmmm
golden ivy
Lol
jagged shadow
Maybe its an actual action game coming :o
sacred hinge
4 of 200
tropic ruin
1/50
golden ivy
0.5/25
sacred hinge
5 / 200
tropic ruin
-2.14B/2.14B
twilit forge
Finally reached red H2O
sacred hinge
Road to teehee
frigid hornet
true dirge
we do too ^^
regal root
the poop is finally finding the toilet paper
dry barn
Woo got a mining deck link
regal root
Nice
vital heart
same
vital heart
fat L
regal root
;(
golden ivy
Any other good idle games
vital heart
melvor idle
hollow forge
realm grinder
sacred hinge
9/200
tall willow
I got lucky this time cause I actually calculated the time of when I get max balls and I saved them up
I had 20 gems before I launched my balls
now I can get overlord miners
true dirge
grats
modern cobalt
got another 1 of each crystal
worldly lichen
@sacred hinge What are the 200 things u try to get ?
sacred hinge
11/200 messages
turbid grotto
Snippet awfully looks like what i predicted i feel like
modern cobalt
what do you need the 200 msgs for?
golden ivy
For the TeeHee rank
modern cobalt
ahh nicee
dry barn
Looks like my offline training gains are super high compared to away
About 20 seconds offline atm is giving me 2 strength levels but 2 hours away while playing the game gives me like 1
How strange
golden ivy
Oof
kind rover
Offline gains are better for everything except for construction iirc
Popping candies is super useful for this reason. Away gains are better btw
vale flicker
Anyone know some shit about like internet connections and shit?
So
I set up a static ip at my place on my laptop
And when I went to buddies
It messed something up
Or it's some other problem
Because the only app that works is google
Steam, discord, Spotify, etc. all don't get connection
distant siren
nope
obsidian surge
well why did you set an static ip for in the first place
vital heart
tbh seems more like an issue with the dns
obsidian surge
or ip conflict, if he had the problem when moving to buddies lol
eager geyser
why does pet research got to be so long to level.......Getting Final 5 (red tank) is going to be forever.
unborn finch
@eager geyser have you been stacking research boosters?
eager geyser
yea
even been wasting all gems on Piping to get a boost of RP / exp cause I think that helps......17 more to go and all pipes are upgraded.......
unborn finch
have you fully upgraded the gem vat?
lilac matrix
all you really need for the tanks is to get the vessels
getting white vessels should be enough to unlock all the blood tanks
you don't really need the gem vat or diamond piping
I have 0 diamond pipes and only 2 levels on gem vat
but with tinker equips and white vessels you can get the blood tanks fairly easily
eager geyser
I up to T5 / purple Vessels.
and the tinker Gear. is there a Build list on whats best for area?
proven sluice
Whoops wrong channel lol..
void spade
the best part about taking such a long break from the game is all my pet passives are getting maddddd levels
golden ivy
<@&438523268589420544> <@&438523323018903566>
void spade
broooooooooooooooooooooo
lilac matrix
why are you pinging mods lol
safe isle
😐
winged sigil
cunt
marsh pine
whats up
golden ivy
HURRY
Wow, it has been a loooooooong time since I was pinged here
RED PILL NOW
SPREAD THE WORD
@EVERYONE NOW
lilac matrix
??????????????
?????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????
void spade
are you fucking serious
golden ivy
THIS IS THE TRUTH
trail wren
wtf
lilac matrix
LMAOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
marsh pine
💤
winged sigil
!mute @golden ivy spam
raw folioBOT
CAMDEN LETS GOOOO#5168 has been muted
lilac matrix
what is this bs
safe isle
!mute 1d @golden ivy spamming dumb shit
marsh pine
lmao
lilac matrix
yeah that link is not getting clicked lmao
void spade
🦀 the redpiller is gone 🦀
trail wren
thank you xd
sour socket
the redpiller
marsh pine
another days work
safe isle
who is braverelease
golden ivy
Btw hey everyone 
lilac matrix
to post some random crap that's gonna get removed
golden ivy
Whule im here
lilac matrix
he still talks quite a bit
void spade
hooray
sour socket
that name looks familiar
lilac matrix
I'm new-ish and he's probs the blue name I've seen most
(although he wasn't blue when I joined)
sour socket
ive been yellow forever because i stopped playing for a bit
lilac matrix
it was only a few weeks ago I think
safe isle
I'm new-ish and he's probs the blue name I've seen most
@lilac matrix because everyone else stopped being active when lava vanished for 6 months
lilac matrix
lmao true,
sour socket
he hasn't vanished
lilac matrix
but I've joined since then
void spade
he's just got everything on lockdown
sour socket
hes just making a big update to the game
winged sigil
he hasn't vanished
essentially has tho
winged sigil
all you hear is #💖future-content-blog
void spade
who knows
golden ivy
Lol. Lava vanished?
lilac matrix
I mean mama mia isn't that bad tbh, at least it works off screen
void spade
I sure hope so
sour socket
or will just new stuff come out
lilac matrix
there are things which are straight up just broken
void spade
yea trust me I know
lilac matrix
:/
void spade
I hope he surprises everyone by moving the game out of stencyl
sour socket
at least one of the tinkering links is broken
sour socket
at some of the tinkering gear buffs are broken
void spade
it kinda works
sour socket
how is pets broken?
void spade
you just have to manually equip it
winged sigil
there's a whole list of broken shit
void spade
before going to pets screen
safe isle
we know what's broken, we made the buglist ourselves lmao
golden ivy
I mean, the game is broken since 2018
void spade
it's okay though alien he's got it on lock down
winged sigil
I'd be surprised if even 1% of it gets fixed
sour socket
we know you know whats broken we're mostly just talking about it andrew
void spade
there is a LOT
lilac matrix
if only he allowed a few people to bugfix lmao
golden ivy
Lava has always been the type that introduces more broken features rather than bugfixes
void spade
hoops poggers
lilac matrix
dude
glacial vault
I vanished when lava stopped caring about PC and let it be broken for way too long
lilac matrix
I got 4 points
golden ivy
Well, see you guys in another year