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#off-topic-chat
lilac matrix
😠
golden hawk
get clapped my friend
modern cobalt
like the green colored ones
lilac matrix
there aren't any green ones lol
modern cobalt
the ones rright after red
lilac matrix
at least not god potions
golden hawk
godly potions are blue ^^
true dirge
Pastel green maybe
modern cobalt
the other potions
modern cobalt
ah okay
true dirge
Cyan
lilac matrix
I suppose they do look kinda green
golden hawk
are we talking about the new or the old potions?
modern cobalt
the second set of dark mode pots are super usefull
golden hawk
I´m still kinda confused ^^
lilac matrix
he means the learn rate one
and that set
in darkmode
all the darkmode pots are really good tbf
modern cobalt
true
lilac matrix
and some of the last few are absolutely nuts
modern cobalt
in the second construction set whats after the boss foil set?
cause I dont really wanna get rid of my king cards to see
true dirge
Think ispro rifts again
modern cobalt
ah okay I wont do it for now then
true dirge
Yeah probably not missing too much
cyan hill
modern cobalt
I just got 87 balls and 28 gems from 1 crypt
eager geyser
lolrank 399, level 9, exp for now is 666...funny
granite hamlet
I got five 72 hour candies from the green vault once
golden ivy
What combo is best to get yellow potions?
eternal marten
Go to the apothecary page on the wiki, there's a link there to an infodoc
dry barn
Hmm it feels like the potion boost potion is only affecting certain potions
vale flicker
Yoooooooooooo
What happened to vad?
He flipped out in the meme channel and he's just gone now
Did he get kicked or did he leave
granite hamlet
Oh
golden ivy
Wasn't he a JR mod?
kind rover
The super simplified version of it is that he wishes there was more server support.
golden ivy
Oh okay.
kind rover
But Vad has retired and left the server. He was a Jr mod, yes. He was also active, which was great.
Usually when I find time to look around, Adam has already purged the server of bad messages
granite hamlet
Wow
kind rover
Adam basically does all of the work now that vad has left
vale flicker
F
golden ivy
Ah.
kind rover
The meme channel can also be a cesspool at times...
kind rover
Usually any channel that isn't strict with topicality is subject to problems.
vale flicker
Dude avoid meme channels if you have strong opinions on anything
That's like a rule of thumb
Otherwise it'll be miserable
kind rover
Not even that, dude. People posting some very fucked up stuff that should only be in nsfw discords
vale flicker
👀
kind rover
One user in mind always posts something that gets deleted...
vale flicker
Beyond like brazzers and ahegao memes, what kind of shit
kind rover
Adam would know better as he always finds stuff to delete
golden ivy
Man. I don't like when minors are exposed to certain things. As I was once a minor. And I was exposed to certain things.
vale flicker
Dude my mother and her ex fucked me up as a child more than anything the internet did from then forward
granite hamlet
THEY SWORE
kind rover
Generally this place is like teen friendly, definitely not like 10 year old friendly.
vale flicker
So I really can't comprehend caring about anything on the internet
granite hamlet
This place was good once
golden ivy
Lets not. Compare trauma
vale flicker
I'm not, just saying I don't get why the internet can be so upsetting to people because of my trauma
So my opinion is essentially invalid here
Take it with a grain of salt
kind rover
You should seek help if the problems are severe to this day
vale flicker
I try
kind rover
But yeah, I get what you mean
vale flicker
granite hamlet
I have been to a therapist once
golden ivy
Therapy is not fun.
kind rover
Shock therapy!
granite hamlet
It is not fun
golden ivy
Wait, so, we are allowed to swear here, right? Just not directed at people?
granite hamlet
Seems like it
kind rover
Just don't go overboard, but something like "fuck this basketball pet" is fine
golden ivy
Ah okay.
granite hamlet
Inanimate is okay
kind rover
There's really no super concrete line drawn for some rules. Things can be flexible. Although that has been called to question a few times in mod chat.
vale flicker
HOLY SHIT
granite hamlet
That is fine
vale flicker
I HAVE NEVER FELT SO INCAPABLE IN MY LIFE
granite hamlet
Thats not as fine
vale flicker
I HAVE ALL OF THE PETS BUT THE HOOPS PET
eager geyser
my father tried to kill me at the age of 5. Mother kick me out of the house at 18 making forcing me to drop out of high School. and my father is on a raging hate boner and wants me dead..... The Internet.gave me porn / pleasure. Games and anime. way better then what my parents did/gave me
kind rover
Try not to caps spam >_>
vale flicker
Rough shit, but try to keep specifics to off topic
I've gottened warned for it before
kind rover
It's considered depression posting when it's fairly chunky. But I can let this one slide, you don't have a history of doing this. If you want to go further, then yeah visit off topic. But yeah it's gotta suck ass dealing with... All that. And that's just the surface.
granite hamlet
Depression sucks
eager geyser
Its fine. I just saw a few posts about a few mins ago. And though I could/should throw in my bits into the mix. Something about Kids learning bad things from the internet or something and another person saying they got the other way around. So heh. But yea not going to go into it anymore then that.
vale flicker
Spitting facts
granite hamlet
Just put it in #550107059920699392
eager geyser
K. Now as for the game goes now. YES ICE CREAM 4 is DONE!!!!.... Now Im at a Wall... Ice Cream 5 wall....Time to just mess around with whatever,
vale flicker
Bruh I've litterally never had a chance to get walled on ICs
I just idled for weeks at a time, then powergamed for a few days, then back to not playing
When I tried for ICs
I got all of them
Easy
My only wall was pets, because I neglected it completely
eager geyser
one more rebirth and I cap everything in Rebirth... yay. this week was a good week for me on this game.
vale flicker
So when I wanted 9* solar, I had to grind pets for weeks
tropic ruin
My wall was trying to get Chandelier 55 -> 56
eager geyser
Yea for me I was stuck with Green Tier Cash. and Almost to O-Zone. until I started messing with Farming/Potions. and My god I gotten them all and leveled them all. and NOW Im sitting with Blue Cash, Solar 1 star Damage, and 4 ICs.... man The jump I made.
mellow lynx
E
vale flicker
Dude I noticed the potential of potions right of the bat and didn't hesitate
Like it transcends acsensions and rebirths? Count me in!
still abyss
Damn didn't realize how much them starting lvl make a difference till I asked about it
vale flicker
The meme is up my friend
eager geyser
awww I know Mee6 is a bot... but seeing it pop up and the name, For some reason reminds me of Rick and Morty . but heh IM A MEME BABY YEA....
true dirge
@still abyss told u lol
still abyss
Ascend or keep going
still abyss
I just rebirth in less than 6hours ago
ivory juniper
Have you hit the smith break? If so whats your highest potion?
still abyss
I have second ice cream on me
ivory juniper
Oh Im not paying attention lol sorry
still abyss
I'm solar 1
ivory juniper
Im on fourth ice cream atm. Double check what the bot says about the icecreams for sure.
still abyss
Yeah I'm not rebirthing soon
ivory juniper
!dairy
raw folioBOT
Infinite perk locks and cosmic potions are locked behind completing ice cream in dairy aisle.
Each ice cream reduces your damage by ^2/(2+x), with x being which number ice cream you're on. The best way to increase your damage on an ice cream run is to craft facestompers, rubium dusters, djinnic trinkets, broken daggers, and galaxial slashers. If you forget any of these 5 items, you are severely hindering your potential damage.
To see if you have enough damage to attempt an icecream, check Alien's Icecream Calculator here:
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1VAoRSvXsZAEkl5KMo3ernSmc1WdX9iH8getHcKJNfGY/edit#gid=1308305454
To use it, make a copy and fill in the three green cells with your own info.
Or visit the JSCalc version here:
https://jscalc.io/calc/nRqXfLNVY4n1hxOt
true dirge
Anyway it is such a pain to rebirth
inland sable
how do i use the ascension perks keys?
Because I already bought several and does not unlock the padlocks in ascension
ivory juniper
You should be able to click on them
true dirge
U mean training perks?
ivory juniper
I think in the description you use a key. Perks are something else though yeah
true dirge
Or thekeys bought from contract shop
inland sable
the keys you buy in the contracts what are they for?
because I bought several of them and I didn't notice any difference in anything in the game
true dirge
U need to go to the ascension screen and pick one of the locks to unlock
inland sable
so, i bought the keys in the contract but when i try to click it on the ascension screen nothing happens. Do I not have enough quantity? but I bought several.
true dirge
U probably didnt buy the right the colour
still abyss
The others are all at 1m this is the only one I haven't worked on
true dirge
Right colour*
inland sable
I bought several keys but nothing unlocks. Is it a bug on the kongregate site?
still abyss
@inland sable u get the key then u go to ascencions and pick the one u like same key color unlocks same lock color
true dirge
Press the lock to unlock
inland sable
strange, because nothing happens. The only thing that has unlocked there for me are the cards.
Anyway, expect to complete more contract missions and try again
ivory juniper
Cross I would suggest dumping the ice cream at least to not hinder your gains. You arent going to get that ice cream done this run unless you are missing something. (facestompers, rubium dusters, djinnic trinkets, broken daggers, and galaxial slashers)
still abyss
@inland sable u only get one key per quest u have to do more quest
inland sable
in this image, would i get 3 keys or just 1?
still abyss
1
inland sable
wtf
ivory juniper
That means there are 3 left
still abyss
Yup
ivory juniper
Youve bought 1 of 4
inland sable
hm, maybe I'm wrong then hahaha
still abyss
I need to let this just play over night as once I get this two I'm sure my dmg will sky rocket
inland sable
wow this is very difficult to gather the keys to unlock the ascension perks that are blocked
ivory juniper
Ehhh I mean galaxial slashers are still gonna be your main source atm
ivory juniper
Cross I think your issue is you need the other potions...
still abyss
@ivory juniper that other one is op
@ivory juniper yup
It's op to low lol to upgrade it
ivory juniper
I mean the non ice cream potions.
still abyss
Have all blue maxed
ivory juniper
Ah weird. Your blasphemy and unparalleled are grey in the screen shot.
still abyss
Oh I haven't unlocked those yet
ivory juniper
Thats what I meant then. Lol. The god potions are kinda blue so I thought you meant them.
Do you have the second god potion? Broken galaxy?
still abyss
Can u share screen shot of that potion
true dirge
Kinda interesting to have cosmic before godly
ivory juniper
Yeah chang. If he doesnt have broken galaxy Im going to be blown away.
Its the one that gives galaxial slasher more based dmg based on the broken daggers you craft.
That potion is a major breaking point in the game.
ivory juniper
You could also just give us the base damage of your galaxial slasher in your smithing screen cross.
still abyss
@ivory juniper I have broken
ivory juniper
Do you have a lot of galaxial shredders AND broken daggers crafted?
still abyss
Just started working on it now
ivory juniper
Like Im between ice cream 3 and 4 but my base damage from galaxial slasher this run is 2.3qq
still abyss
Wtf
true dirge
Is probably the best craft
ivory juniper
Yeah. So thats where you are hung up right now. Solve that and you will sky rocket. ^^
ivory juniper
Illuminati confirmed
still abyss
Facepalm
ivory juniper
As you are pushing your ores up cross make sure to keep a base power of 10 copper for the copper hoarder ascension perk.
ivory juniper
Hmm are you running any ore cards?
still abyss
All of them but only at 4 star
ivory juniper
Ok well with those gains Id def say get at least 10q copper and keep the 10q copper.
Idk how much youve levelled the ascension perk though
true dirge
Wow i feel poor
true dirge
I only have normal miners
still abyss
Shit forgot
ivory juniper
I mean mines at 60% but Im at 150qq per minute.
I dunno. That may be about right. Im just trying to think if there are any obvious boosts you are missing out on.
still abyss
I might still need to lol up the rebirth one
ivory juniper
Right. Also the t-perk.
crimson zealot
raw folioBOT
still abyss
T perk? U mean the thing that makes u have 11 max lol perks
ivory juniper
No. In the gym on the training page.
still abyss
Yeah have it in gold
true dirge
That t perk is important indeed
ivory juniper
And you get a free reset per run so its always helpful to start off with it. Switch to damage for that last push at the end.
Or bp if you need the points whatever,
true dirge
U always need bp 😂
ivory juniper
Well I mean for me atm Ive got the 2 infinite rebirth perks I have unlocked pretty high and the rest is maxed so I dont get too much out of it. For now at least.
Im just focusing on my potions and pets to get those caught up.
still abyss
ivory juniper
Have you used your free reset this run?
still abyss
Yup
true dirge
Aww
still abyss
Ascended
humble oracle
That t perk is important indeed
@true dirge not if your ore gain is crazy😂😂
true dirge
It’s never enough
humble oracle
Well true
ivory juniper
Im at 150qq and I need moar!
ivory juniper
If you dont wanna rebirth cross you gotta drop the 30 gems on the reset Id say. With no points in damage either unless you find another way to up that ore income you are going to be on that run for at least a week.
humble oracle
still abyss
I ascended
humble oracle
If you dont wanna rebirth cross you gotta drop the 30 gems on the reset Id say. With no points in damage either unless you find another way to up that ore income you are going to be on that run for at least a week.
@ivory juniper 20*
still abyss
Definitely not gonna rebirth
ivory juniper
Ah you are right molli. I misread it.
humble oracle
Dont sweat it man
ivory juniper
Maybe Molli can add some insight but for Cross Id also suggest finishing the ice cream curse contract before turning in that ice cream.
Something I wish I had done earlier but messed up on.
humble oracle
Well actually i think that contract is pretty difficult if you are on your first ice cream
Cause u dont have that many damage
And Darkur
U can always complete it later
After you have done all ice creams
Turn of that cursed game btw Darkur
ivory juniper
Ok I wasnt sure on that. Good to know thank you lol. I was worried it would only get harder to finish as I progressed. Lol.
Rofl.
humble oracle
No after u have done all ice creams u get a golden ice cream that doesnt reduce damage
So u can just balista trough t
humble oracle
U know which one is pointless
And i havent completed it yet cause i refuse
This one
ivory juniper
God I hated that one.
true dirge
Patience
true dirge
Technically it’s not hard
true dirge
Since u can kee tapping the fishing screen
humble oracle
Its just takes ascends xD
true dirge
Until the right one appears
pallid hazel
It seems nearly impossible to finish ice cream curse without the golden ice cream lol
ivory juniper
Ive finished all but leviathan.... and the easy level skill training contract.
pallid hazel
for SSSS+ you have to get to Jk Lol which is already like 40 billion kills
ivory juniper
Im at jk lol. And I could of hit it because of the smithing break on my first ice cream.
humble oracle
SSSS+ is incarnate right xD
ivory juniper
Im at 13k of 15k on the skill training. I dont even know how.
All my ascension perks are at a trillion cost and Ive completed all the rebirth perks but the infinite ones naturally annnnd I still have an easy contract. Lol.
ivory juniper
Ok well Im glad to know I couldnt complete it on my first ice cream then XD
old tusk
what are u guys talking about?
pallid hazel
Completing the Ice Cream Curse contract without golden ice cream
humble oracle
Idle skilling
true dirge
😂
old tusk
well just gotta grind real good
true dirge
^
pallid hazel
for them 4 green merits
humble oracle
Qualle u cant tell me u conlmpletee it first ice cream
old tusk
like the ice creams don't give u some real good dmg source
pallid hazel
what if i wanna actually play the game tho
old tusk
if u grind the spelunking stuff it should be no problem
humble oracle
what if i wanna actually play the game tho
@pallid hazel u open your phone, get to the game
Play
Easy as thar
old tusk
spelunking stuff is the game
pallid hazel
true, don't gotta rebirth for spelunking
still abyss
Much better
pallid hazel
i guess if you really need those 4 green merits and have a few weeks to spare
ivory juniper
Awesome cross!
old tusk
idk why u'd need em but oke
humble oracle
Crystal setup @still abyss
pallid hazel
flexing on us noobs
humble oracle
U can complete it without those 4 merits
old tusk
why not use the one from the wiki
ivory juniper
Yeah cross move that gem to the middle one at least.
still abyss
Don't have them unlocked
ivory juniper
Well good luck Cross. I hope that you get your ice cream soon! Good talking to you all! Night!
still abyss
Will get it this time thanks
humble oracle
Goodnight Darkur
still abyss
This is my second one
still abyss
Cya
frank moth
i wonder how long i was not playing idle skilling
distant siren
npc
golden ivy
I just want to say one thing
Unlocking the next tubing after yellow takes so dang long in trekking
every time I progress I think 'okay next boss will have it'
nope
true dirge
Means u need a better team
humble oracle
Dang what did Vad do?
dry barn
:o completed first ice cream
humble oracle
Congrats @dry barn
dry barn
Thank ya ^-^
golden ivy
he left
dry barn
How much dmg is recommended before doing ice cream 2?
sacred hinge
Use the calculator?
smoky juniper
!dairy
raw folioBOT
Infinite perk locks and cosmic potions are locked behind completing ice cream in dairy aisle.
Each ice cream reduces your damage by ^2/(2+x), with x being which number ice cream you're on. The best way to increase your damage on an ice cream run is to craft facestompers, rubium dusters, djinnic trinkets, broken daggers, and galaxial slashers. If you forget any of these 5 items, you are severely hindering your potential damage.
To see if you have enough damage to attempt an icecream, check Alien's Icecream Calculator here:
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1VAoRSvXsZAEkl5KMo3ernSmc1WdX9iH8getHcKJNfGY/edit#gid=1308305454
To use it, make a copy and fill in the three green cells with your own info.
Or visit the JSCalc version here:
https://jscalc.io/calc/nRqXfLNVY4n1hxOt
lilac matrix
I think the thing I'm most scared of is updating the app and finding I've lost progress lol
granite hamlet
Cloudsave baby
eternal marten
If I cloudsave I can't cheat :(
granite hamlet
Wha
eternal marten
I did it like a year aag
Funny thing is, my progress would have been faster if I kept ascending instead
true dirge
Lmao and here i am tapping w my fingers
lilac matrix
so close to what?
raw folioBOT
Sometime the numbers look the same, but they aren't. For example, you may have 10.6 dirt, and the cost is 11.3 dirt. 10.6 < 11.3, yet it looks like you can afford it, because 10.6 rounds to 11, and 11.3 rounds to 11, and 11 = 11!
granite hamlet
A true a zero cost smith item
vital heart
i'd rebirth and tell you but i'm too lazy
honest token
What kind of idiot goes in to a server with 17000 people and tries to @ everyone
@vadhakara#4958 that's kinda rude bro :/ i just wanted to hype up the people or whatever
vital heart
ok furry
granite hamlet
I completed the second ice cream
vital heart
what a god
heady brook
Everyone is already hyped lad lol
vital heart
honestly what is the endgame in idle skilling lol
dry barn
All ice creams completed I suppose
long glen
Infinite damage? All (reasonable) constructions? Who knows.
rigid coral
Endgame is probably being in TeeHees in fighting and Aberrant in trekking
vital heart
man i should level my trekking pets
my highest level pets are barely 10k
i never really tried leveling them because gathering the eggshells to upgrade my nests was annoying
golden hawk
later its more annoying to spend those thousands of eggshells for dozens of levels ^^
vital heart
fair
fossil badge
How can I apply to be an alpha tester?
golden hawk
ask lava
fossil badge
oh nvm ive done this before he only wants android
true dirge
later its more annoying to spend those thousands of eggshells for dozens of levels ^^
@golden hawk i just realised pressing and holding 2 weeks ago
vital heart
imagine
golden hawk
lmao
snow hedge
why is steam client webhelper using 70% of my cpu
true dirge
Yup i levelled them to prestige 10+? Before realising
golden hawk
10 only? the fun starts at 20+ 😛
fossil badge
It wants you to stop playing factorio @snow hedge
true dirge
Nah now i brrrrr to 20+ lmao
vapid mesa
Got pet id 32, but it's still a bit too slow for inf eggs
vital heart
inf eggs?
true dirge
Some exploit
eager geyser
I asked the same thing. Seems what you do is get your highest Non Boss ID Pet into the Nest. THEN you place a Boss pet with that pet. THEN you remove that Non Boss Pet and replace it with another Boss Pet and you SHOULD get 1 Egg right away without waiting. I tried it and only get about a 1/3 of the timer used leaving me with about 7 mins until I get a egg
vapid mesa
That's because it also needs to be 10 mins
eager geyser
So if the Timer has to be 10 mins Min. wouldnt it work better with Lower ID pets instead of higher ID pets?
vapid mesa
I think it's a combo of id and time
So minimum is 31/32 and 10mins for a single white egg
true dirge
U need it to be 10mins for hyena and your boss pet
And u swap hyena w another boss pet
And it should be 10 mins too
@eager geyser means u need more nest speed
And it doesn’t work all the time. Just need to spam it until the free eggs pop
Higher IDs pop more and better eggs
vapid mesa
Never thought I'd reach the point where I'm short on mining traces, but here I am...
true dirge
I think smithing n botany traces are still the main bottlenecks
hexed quartz
Short on mining traces? Impossible! How?
vapid mesa
Idk but it happened
Spent em all on shrines
Which isn't trace-specific, it's not like I could spam one shrine and eat up all of one trace; they're evenly spaced
distant siren
heck u discord
wispy dagger
when lava doesnt know you made new pixel arts
ok bye for now o/
have a great day everyone
distant siren
bread man
golden ivy
That's me
distant siren
i eat bread
golden ivy
Same
distant siren
cannibalism
snow hedge
what's your favorite bread breadman
red cobalt
Damnit, I realised I left the discord server that had the dogbread emoji
snow hedge
:dogbread:
red cobalt
Could easily make a new one
green crater
hey
qucik questsion : is there cap to potion cost redux? if my card give me 99% thn there is point to use other card that gives also 99% ?
clever dome
so it's 9801%?
that's some good redux
frik lost some brain cells typing that
I'm an idiot lmao
kind rover
Cost would be 0.01*0.01
clever dome
yea, that's what I Assumed
green crater
they dont bleed ... its a ketchup
kind rover
Dat feel when you can instantly level pots to the 7k range
Dat feel when resources are your bottleneck :(
old tusk
Meteor, sooo even with your broken passives, resources are a problem
You would think that u can get a lot from these bonuses
green crater
i wasnt plaing much in last month ... so i had fun using 2k asylum kesy and got some fun cards :V
and just today i spend 900 gems to 2xmastery points :V
still abyss
What happens when u get to the end of oblivion
still abyss
I see
old tusk
Technically there's no end
obsidian sapphire
what happens if you ! bosskill twice?
green crater
i dont know ... i am at 103 incarnate
ivory juniper
Glad to see you almost got that ice cream done cross. 👍
green crater
i spend like half h to get all items in crusade to orange lvl :V
old tusk
But teehee63 can be considered the last enemy, because he needs massive amounts of DMG and all other enemies after him have the same health and are basically just the same
green crater
but having +8% chance for booster is nice :V
old tusk
Yes
green crater
now having 15x fails in row is not so often :V
old tusk
I'm proud of the blue brew speed I just achieved
green crater
nice... i am almost at green ;V
old tusk
My highness passive is at 375
:O
Hopefully soon lvling the other passives will only take one day each
One pet passive from lvl 0 to lvl 100 using only one pet in 24h or less would be my dream
Still can't do it tho
green crater
when afterlife 
i ma hard stuck at father of all 96 .... i wanna 100 finaly T_T
ok now i am angry ... i swap evry thing i could to get as much dmg as i cna ... now i am stuck at 99 ;-;
neer mind i jsut did it ..... so .... waht the point of crusade now on ? 😄
snow hedge
get 200?
green crater
but i have all materials ... and so many of them .... i mean i can use some in cafting ....
snow hedge
get everything to pearlescent
green crater
i know its not much for many of u .. but now i make 0.5b of 2star cool blue cash :V
and few hours ago i could make less than 1m of those per h
snow hedge
good job!
raw folioBOT
A user has successfully killed a boss! Congrats to them! 
tropic ruin
Ah yes, the satistfaction of getting back a role you had before
magic grove
tropic ruin
And then when they hatch they become "better" than what they normally would
vapid mesa
Lol the broccoli is "disgusting"
tropic ruin
I like Broccoli
smoky juniper
Your mum likes broccoli
green crater
i like to look at bench guy .... i have only him atm .... and 691 h20 lvl adn 1860 str .... 1243 acc and 1006 stamina ...
he was working so hard since re birth last h ago :V
i will buy him some friends to work out with :V
Here we go... some friends
vale flicker
All of his "friends" are facing away from him
Clearly they're fake friends
Only want him around to use his bench skills
velvet stone
They're good friends they don't want him catching covid
true dirge
Morning
sonic crypt
!rank
raw folioBOT
Jake-, that command is disabled in this channel.
eager geyser
OMG just give me my last T1 Contract.. skill level 15869 times, and the text is stuck on 15k / 15k...... and Im sure I did well over 500 level, and the last bit can be pushed. Been sitting on 15 Silver Merits forever. and these last 2 Copper Merits is stopping me from being 100% done with Copper, Silver and Gold, and be done with Shops 1 and 2. I COULD just rebirth and get it in a heart beat. but I just put in the time getting everything leveled and farming.
true dirge
lmao
fresh geyser
Hey guys, new player here: when do you recommend I do my first ascension? Like, how many AP?
true dirge
1 - When should I ascend the first/next time?
It is widely agreed that the best time to ascend for the 1st time is when you have reached around 100AP. After that, the right time to ascend should be whenever you find yourself to be stuck far from the next zone and feel like you could reach your progress easily with your new starting levels and the AP you have accumulated to invest. It is also a good idea to ascend after reaching a new zone, as new perks make getting back where you’ve been faster.
fresh geyser
Oh wonderful, thank you for the link!
true dirge
personal opinion: just ascend/rebirth whenever u hit a new zone
because usually that unlocks something new
true dirge
sounds about right then
fresh geyser
Thank you 🙂
true dirge
usually whatever u unlock can help push u to the next zone
with a little patience of course
fresh geyser
I'll definitely read through this guide
true dirge
yup it's a good starting point to make sense of everything
fresh geyser
Yeah I feel like my progress is really slow right now so I felt like I was missing something
And then I remembered "oh yeah ascension is a thing"
This game is loaded with stuff
Its hard to tell what I should be investing in at any given moment haha
eager geyser
so Alpha testers I think are testing new stuff. and cant put up some kind of Spoilers.... I know they cant or something but would be nice to get a better Leak Info then what Lava been giving
true dirge
Its hard to tell what I should be investing in at any given moment haha
@fresh geyser my personal approach is just work on everything evenly
or whatever feels fun to work on at the moment
fresh geyser
I kinda do the same thing
I log on after 8-12 hours or whatever, and kinda just spread my gold evenly on everything
true dirge
yup that's a plan
everything just helps bring u to the eventual end
so if something feels like a grind then perhaps u have hit the limit for that screen
so work on something else
and if everything feels like a grind
then ascend/rebirth lol
fresh geyser
The thing is, I can definitely progress further in my zones, its just such a pain sitting there pressing skills for an hour to grind through the mobs
eager geyser
Now that I think about Has Lava EVER given info on something in game before adding it. IE like Tunneling and what it is and for.....I dont think he ever has. IIRC it always been ..Here a picture of what is new and no info.. Alway had to learn everything in the game itself.
true dirge
not sure phoenix, im new here 😄
fresh geyser
My ATK, STR, HP is enough to kill the mobs, it just takes forEVER. and idling kills at like 1% of the pace haha
true dirge
then perhaps ascend is the way to go
vapid mesa
At the beginning, it's a lot faster to use skills
I esp like poison because it's relatively fast when you upgrade it
But yea, can't idle it
fresh geyser
I messed up lol. I pressed ascend before investing my AP
: )
will I still have my 135 AP when I unlock the portal button?
true dirge
yup
fresh geyser
I haven't actually found a use for fishing yet
Is there any use other than crafting healing items ?
eager geyser
later its used with the other Crafting stuff. ( there are only 5 Healing items and 2 upgrade version for 2 of the 5) but yea. I think after the T1 pages of crafting everything else is mostly a Ore + Fish to craft
unborn oar
Got Gorshank pet 🥳
tropic ruin
What do you think is more durable?
A Mystical Axe with the power of the Gods, or a Staff with immense magical power.
tropic ruin
Technicly
true dirge
ok i hope u picked the axe then
tropic ruin
||Well too bad the Staff Of Caudacus is more durable than the Axe Of Forselia||
golden ivy
An axe is just a stick with metal at the end giving it no structural benefit
tropic ruin
Well magic CAN be REALLY POWERFUL when focused
Able to wipe out even the most powerful of Warriors in battle
true dirge
i stand corrected then
jagged basin
Magic Missile!
eager geyser
I cast Magic Missile at the Darkness
jagged basin
is darkness a referrence to something xD
jagged basin
xD alright i see
eager geyser
And cause of this. I recall in Deadpool the game he follows Death and at one point is like. The Darkness is attacking me. MAGIC MISSILE MAGIC MISSILE!!!
jagged basin
XD
kind rover
You are now aware of your breathing, blinking, heartbeat, and toes touching.
sour grotto
What if I don't have any eyelids or toes
I'm pretty sensitive about it actually and I'm kinda mad you brought it up.
red cobalt
ghost toes and ghost eyelids
I'm undead, I don't have a heartbeat and I don't breathe.
Triggered
sour grotto
You go through life trying to do your best as a perfectly cubical non-specific gelatinous entity and it just never gets any easier.
🧊
distant siren
🍨
red cobalt
distant siren
:(
amber sierra
Whens there a new update or is there going to be one
ebon grove
Will cloud save happen on iOS. I don’t want to play and lose everything when I change my device
boreal reef
Is b-ball planned to be less buggy for the next update?
red cobalt
Who knows
Anything we know is in #💖future-content-blog and that's not a lot.
I think mid september for next update
Twitter
humble oracle
Is b-ball planned to be less buggy for the next update?
@boreal reef of course not its an update not a patch xD
golden hawk
innocent until proven otherwise O_O
trail summit
Lava fixes bugs?
@red cobalt of course no, that's a myth.
red cobalt
That's what I thought.
I mean fixing bugs is boring, making content is fun
Who can say no to fun
frank moth
ahh
trail summit
@golden bluff cheater?
trail summit
Billion skillpoints
golden bluff
Oh that
long glen
A billion skill points is rookie numbers.
golden bluff
See
trail summit
A billion skill points is rookie numbers.
@long glen oof
golden bluff
You just need high multipliers from pets
And the rest ofc together with perk point increasing cards for training
long glen
It gives you one level 31622 perk. By the time I stopped playing a few months ago my perks were up to level 700k+.
golden bluff
But I must admit that I didnt get all of these perk points the normal way
I only had about 635 mil perk points when I got a bug where the spent perk points were actually added and not deduced from my total perk points
Now the bug is gone tho
But that was just after my rebirth yesterday
long glen
Not a bug, it's overflow. You had more than 2b skill points.
lament prairie
yeah it's only visual as well
strong ore
it can overflow several times too, then it seesaws as you spend them
golden bluff
Lol I have that rn xD
They actually decreased as the skillers leveled up
I love this game
long glen
I think it's best described as having a large number, but you only see a few digits of it. For example, your actual number is 10[000]. Subtract five and you get 9[995].
wispy dagger
Aaaaaaaaaaaaaa
golden bluff
Same
vital heart
i should work on my skill point multis
true dirge
adding them is no fun
vital heart
get a clicker
vital heart
L
shy lake
Bruh I wasted 2100+ keys on Scallius Z didn't get a card or pet
vital heart
rip
true dirge
sounds normal
lilac matrix
Jeez that's quite a lot
hollow whale
anyone running the wiki build for travel?
hollow whale
what's your travel/hr?
true dirge
about 250Mm/hr
hollow whale
mind if you help me test out a different build?
true dirge
how so, i won't have the pets
hollow whale
that's the if you mind part haha
i also have the wiki build but my travel rate is more than double (sometimes 3x if you get the attacks right) using this but i don't know what aspect is exactly causing such a huge difference
true dirge
the wiki build's focus is less on travel
hollow whale
the base would be just the priority in distance/speed but what am i loosing?
true dirge
but just more rounded in general
u are losing in vessels
and trekking exp i guess
i have 1.3QQ vessels and 999B exp
and more kills
true dirge
i was using something similar to u previously
but somehow the wiki team just doesn't require resetting
the full speed team some how just keeps dying
hollow whale
my experience had my wiki team dying faster than the other build actually
its true that the rates for the other build vary but the lowest it goes for my side is still double the wiki build
true dirge
i don't disagree
then just use it?
probably the damage will drop off somewhere and u will need to switch
hollow whale
i do just want to know where the loss is? or what aspects are there in play to find a better build..
probably the damage will drop off somewhere and u will need to switch
@true dirge I agree, probably will hit at some point but the pet attack right now is at cap(?) for the display
hollow whale
i guess we wait for a pet dmg calculator
golden ivy
idk if anyone cares enough about the game atm to make one lol
hollow whale
we wait
golden ivy
or any of the usual suspects like alien and chy
hollow whale
at least i have soulbound now i guess
long glen
I tried to make a pet damage calculator at one point. Needless to say the code is a nightmare.
hollow whale
i could actually imagine all the damage calculations just keep on being added by poitions, genetic buffs, and other aspects, plus whatever the pet lvl does for dmg amazed there's one for "player" dmg even haha
why tho
@sacred hinge i guess it would be hard to keep track of what would affect what and when it would affect it as well?
with the UI of the game rn its all about player dmg and barely anything for pet dmg
bold vine
I'm just curious what lvl people's infinite BP perks are? Mine are around lvl 350.
kind rover
I stopped at 600. Could go higher, not sure how much.
Forgot what raises it but don't use me as a goal.
distant siren
tungsten dioxide, whats this
golden ivy
k
sacred hinge
I stopped at 600. Could go higher, not sure how much.
@kind rover go to 666
hollow whale
I'm just curious what lvl people's infinite BP perks are? Mine are around lvl 350.
@bold vine go for 420
bold vine
Will be easy to do, have lots of scrolls saved up lol
golden ivy
What exactly effects how many gems you get at rebirth?
Do you only get gems for rebirthing a certain number of times or..?
true dirge
should be just the first 3 times
golden hawk
150 100 50 iirc
golden ivy
Ah okay
bleak depot
I'm roughly 1.5 months into the game, and only just now learning there is an adjustable "Buy X" button in the bottom right you can use in training, crafting, etc.
I might feel a little dumb clicking 1 at a time up till now.
golden hawk
Poor joint capsule 🙂
true dirge
dw i found that u could adjust there directly 2 months into playing
previously i was adjusting via the help screen
golden hawk
I was a few months in until I remembered how to get to the help screen ^^
true dirge
and well i didn't turn on my research tank tap because i was busy when i just unlocked it and skipped over the instructions
and i thought rp = bp
so i didn't have any bp, hence i thought research wasn't unlocked yet
probably went a month with starting research at all
but.. all good now 
hollow forge
thats sad
vital heart
man i'm so fucking stupid
i was wondering why my spiriting was so slow
i just didn't have any decks for it
golden ivy
I'm still having problems with reaching any moneylords past number 9. I should be able to get past it. My attack speed is pretty fast and my damage is past the quadrillions. I just don't know what to do.
They just...respawn so slow.
snow hedge
get more dmg and don'T bother with vault it'S shit
golden ivy
Ok
raw folioBOT
A user has successfully killed a boss! Congrats to them!
snow hedge
nice
wispy dagger
good job champ
kind rover
Ladies and gentlemen
Get your hands together
And give a big round of applause....
To Lavaflame2!!!
wispy dagger
vital heart
man, missed the jackpot on the final roll
golden ivy
Sad
thick portal
wait is lava doing a new game?
thick portal
ok
obsidian surge
Way to go
raw quest
so this is cool video game i guess
distant siren
All games are video at this point
raw quest
🤔
kind rover
Used all my rebirth coupons and got the damage perk from 600 to 655.
I also don't have backdoor bog, so I probably would have been able to reach 666
hexed quartz
I also don't have backdoor bog, so I probably would have been able to reach 666
@kind rover how much did that impact your damage?
kind rover
I forgot to check, but I'm guessing a lot. 600 to 655 isn't a huge bonus though.
I also got a crap load of fabled potion coupons
The potions alone probably only got me 1t
Previously I was at 1.6t s9 FoA 272
Now I'm at 4.934t s9 FoA 272
I'm now sitting at 3.796t solar 9 FoA 273 (41t with Valor)
hexed quartz
You bought fabled potion coupons with gems?
kind rover
So to go from 1.6t to 4.9t I'd have had to have bought wayyyy more coupons than I thought, or the rebirth perk helped a lot even though I boosted the perk by like 9%
Yeah gems, but from my 44m pachi balls, which were from the pet passives shenanigans back in September
hexed quartz
Ah. Yes that is a lot of pachinko balls
fleet ivy
Casually says back in September like it wasn't almost a year ago lol
still abyss
Yes 4th down
next mortar
dry barn
Currently on a 2 day not-playing streak again
pallid hazel
if lavaflame2 is so good why is there no lavaflame3?
eager geyser
its ok there is no lavaflame1
dry barn
what about lavaflame0?
I just realized maybe lava could add a little bit of lore/story to the game with like an evil version of him causing havoc, gonna go uhh post that in suggestions
ivory juniper
Dang cross. You are caught up to me now. Im doing some strictly pot/pet runs right now though.
golden ivy
So. The game has anti-cheating capabilities?
strong ore
No
sage knot
still abyss
@ivory juniper
ivory juniper
Nice Cross ^^
ivory juniper
Let me know how it goes. Havent tried it yet. Trying to get my pet research up atm
still abyss
Need more time to smith
ivory juniper
Once I unlock the 4th blue tank Im going to give the next ice cream a go. But Ive got a ways to go. I just need those grey star cards.
distant siren
damn wide screens are weird
molten rose
when You want to do a second ascend since 51 days, but You got AP coupon worth 105kAP so you just cleared purg in one ascend
this game is driving me crazy
candid crystal
hi, redownloaded the app after not playing for a long time, new content to try out sounds nice
humble oracle
if lavaflame2 is so good why is there no lavaflame3?
@pallid hazel there is xD
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The Asylum Boss has been defeated by a player! What an absolute UNIT!
eager geyser
holy jumping balls..... I rebirth, then trained just a bit. THEN I go into Crusade. Hit the Collect button, And I and Jumping from level 146 to 346... I was barely getting exp before Rebirth and I did not for Crusade. So the jump in level is a puzzle to me.
eager geyser
yea but I haad him unlocked like 2 days ago an did not get much. so why now??? -thinking hard on it-
going to have to sit on the toilet for this one.
humble oracle
Because
Probably u defeated him some
Idling matbe
Idk
But its because of then
Them
true dirge
Is some crusade bug
kind rover
New milestone: 7t s9 FoA273 (78t valor). First enemy killed.
eager geyser
that looks russian to me.
kind rover
7 trillion solar 9 damage on father of all crusade boss level 273.
eager geyser
ok.... and the First Enemy Killed part?
kind rover
Each crusade has 5 enemies.
eager geyser
yea but what do you mean by it. like the First enemy killed you at that level or something
kind rover
I killed the first enemy out of 5, died to the second enemy.
kind rover
Politicians struggle with that the most :p
eager geyser
I think they mastered it. Cause instead of blaming Mistakes on someone or taking the Blame. they say " Mistakes were made"
celest patio
Polagise for that mishap!
distant siren
bye going for day
humble oracle
Bye Mark
regal root
bye
pallid hemlock
Finally all asylum cards, jeez that took months
eager geyser
need to remember to scroll down on chat after waking up or coming back here...random time it just stops doing it by it self
kind rover
@old tusk there's always gonna be one thing holding us back when boosting something. In potions, it's speed vs resources. Even with an optimal setup vs a casual one for crops or plants, I can only snag a couple +15 and then I hit another wall. Trying to see if there's a hard speed wall around 7k but I need to buy coupons to try and figure it out. Although my mama mia still isn't maxed out, I've been too lazy to do so. I doubled my brew infinite perk but noticed no change in brew speed on page refresh.
Not a fan of how the God pot card has a cap. Defeats the purpose of it...
old tusk
oke understandable
kind rover
Then again I'd be rocking like level 5000k potions or something lmao
kind rover
No, just the God pot card, which is cost reduction, has an effect limit
old tusk
ah okay
kind rover
And I joked that if there was no limit I could boost each potion to crazy levels
So without using pink crystals, brew chest and brew shield, I'm able to reach 7200 so far. Need more gems. Once I can't go further I'll need to check the brew requirement via save file to check if there's a limit. Oh, and I'll need to see if the chest and shield help, would clarify if there's some sort of overflow speed.
Also, my total potion level is 588k
kind rover
First God pot
kind rover
7200 now. More gems needed. Highest potion is also 8813.
humble oracle
Dafuq how?
kind rover
New total potion count is 596k
humble oracle
How do u get so high Meteor?
true dirge
how to get the pot cards though
kind rover
Pot cards from when you leave a potion brewing (like, leveling a potion, not brewing a new one). Over time a card may drop randomly.
true dirge
will candies help?
kind rover
As for how I got so high, pet passives for brewing and lots of coupons in the past 2 days.
granite hamlet
Omg
kind rover
I believe candy helps now, away gains should count now for drops
humble oracle
Huh but why do coupons help?
granite hamlet
Cloudsave isn't janky for once
kind rover
Crops and plants are my main bottlenecks for God pots and dark mode potions
true dirge
keep buying pot coupons i guess
true dirge
+20 levels
humble oracle
OOo
kind rover
Coupons help boost damage. Specifically fabled coupons help the most.
humble oracle
on all of them?
kind rover
I'm using God pot coupons to check where my brew speed stops maxing out potions.
It's somewhere between 7200 and 7400 where it will stop.
kind rover
Coupons give extra levels differently
God pot coupon adds +20, for example
Fabled is 15, Timeless is 20.
Fabled is by far the best investment for damage boosting via gems
errant forge
How do you even get god potion coupons?
golden hawk
buying them with gems in the gem shop
pallid hazel
i just wanted the card man
inland sable
does it still work to transfer save from the kongregate site to android?
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vital heart
34/36 contracts completed
eager geyser
yea I got 6 more of those to do... Whats your last two?
smoky juniper
does it still work to transfer save from the kongregate site to android?
@inland sable no
celest wadi
The wiki has the jackpot wrong for the arcade
I know because I won recently, it's 1k gems and not 2k
Feels bad man
I don't know how editing works though
inland sable
I managed to transfer it to the game's home screen, but when I click play to play the save reset.@smoky juniper
golden ivy
Do you brew alot of potions to do alot of damage. Like I don't know what I'm doing wrong.
Do I just need more reps? Crusade armor or something?
That's the most I do
modern cobalt
smithing
once you get to 1q material costs youll get bulk crafting and that is hugee
also #_
ivory juniper
@still abyss Hey congrats man! Im still on my pet research run. Ive unlocked like 8 new tanks in the past 24 hours.
still abyss
@ivory juniper I'm working on pet right now didnt realize I can raise there number
Also working on 6 I think ice cream right now
ivory juniper
You are definitely progressing well. I just went from green 2 to 5 in my mining today.
I got the research tank I wanted but I think Im going to greed out for another day or two on it and see what else I can get.
lyric quiver
Hey im new here but i have a major question, so how does one get the pencil pet because i cant seem to figure out the combination of pets i already have to get said pet
foggy thorn
lyric quiver
Ah thanks kuaka
You see mark thats how you get an answer maybe you should learn better jokes at rodeo school
pallid hazel
woah
flat fiber
Woa
granite hamlet
Wo
wispy dagger
W
still abyss
_
onyx mango
lost verge
pallid hazel
Firechad is the only enemy that matters
old tusk
imagine not getting 9999QQ ap
there is ALWAYS someone, who can flex with better stuff then u
(in the case of idle skilling there's one exception; noone can flex better then Meteor)
fleet ivy
Don't you miss knowing how much ap you're getting per rebirth @old tusk ? :p
old tusk
if it still matered yes xD
also i gotta lvl my bp passives up
only getting 160T rn
i need a few Q
fleet ivy
Lol I haven't rebirthed or ascended in so long I just realized I said ap then rebirth, which doesn't make sense
old tusk
are u lvling your capsule exp passives? or did u stop doing that at some point?
fleet ivy
I really need to. I keep telling myself "I'll rebirth after I get these passives to level 200!" Then I just pick 6 new pets and don't rebirth lol