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I dont think i did it 8 times tbh
@charred condor
Also what lvl of spelunking should i aim for on my character before putting them back to lab/monument
Hey Where's that shrine exp bonus from
prolly smth like 50 to 100? I recall skilling them up to 100 at first so i'd have smth like 300-600 stamina,eventually pushing to 250 for 1.5k+ stamina
though idk,i believe efficiency is more important at first? so u can get pages to get more bonuses and so on
golden cheese from w3
Thank
im literally 12k away from golden cheese being at 1m
huge
At least it's feasible to do in a short amount of time.
Rn i run eff prayer on first spelunking idk if that's good
i know ur so right but still,i'd rather mop the ocean idk
Holy imma steal that thanks
Also why arcane on arenas? Doesnt orb increase loot from chest?
Orb only works on first 3
Not world 5 and 6
Oh ok
hey guys, do the portals I'm missing provide a lot of huge buffs?
arent u only missing 1 map related to the nametag u buy at the shop?
guyz should i go for a lunarhiem run when i have 2T pow and first object is 60T?
in which case u should unlock that map and run that chore as it increases ur overall DR iirc
I mean.. reliquary gives a lot of DR and the anchors give a lot of trade/gaming bits IIRC
is the DR one dr multiplier card? I don't think I'll be able to farm the card enough
FINALLY!!!!!
I GOT MY FIRST KING CROWN!
Giving me a separate x2.1 Gaming Money mult!
moneeey
Gaming Bits mult, which is currency there
No, it's the speedrun one where you take the nametag item through the maps killing X amount of enemies to the cave to get the nametag that you can put in the gallery.
oh cool
I mean.. plus cards
Top right, Coralcave perimeter
alright thank you
There's a couple vids on how to max your damage output if you're lacking damage for the speedrun
good to know thanks
What's max talents these days?
Three days until Level 30 Research
750+?
742 I think? I might be wrong.
Talents what I book talents booking talent book
divinity coral kid can scale quite high
What is good these days?
That talent in tab 1 still
Well it did something
highest i've seen is 762. max book is 396
Get familiar with arctis
really hard choice someone heeeeeelp
Are none of these at 99% yet in toolbox?
thats not bad as long as its base/no food. here's my DK (without bravery multi btw). we'll see if i get it in a few days
oh no,why have i never checked that before pushing my monuments
thanks lol
Kay, you're more behind on AFK. So if you still need to get monument hours you pick that. Otherwise DR. You can pick up opal chance at another time (it's kinda bait)
ya just get opals on low monument gains days. just need a little. this week too good to waste on it
i dont think i need monument hrs. not at allllllllll sobs
AFK it is lol
DR from wisdom isn't that big tbh. You obviously want it but don't stress over it
but opals is never worth it right?
Kinda sorta sometimes
if everything else is maxed out 99%/100% and gains are low, then its not bad to get. opals have a tome and now that study is godly they help
You absolutely will hit a point where you got all the "natural" opal drops and doing some opal chance will then come through for another drop. I've done it myself. But don't go hard on it as it diminishes in effect a lot
I am mostly dumping into the linear bonuses anyway
I still have a long way to go for the skilling caverns
Generally I tend to pick up some opal chance every now and then when it's up against two equally shitty picks or stuff that's at 99% already
i agree. grabbing 1 opal a run aint bad when its up against other picks that are diluted now due to their level
yeah so it's mostly true for justice and wisdom as bravery is mostly linear
dont feel bad brother. It took me probably no more than 4 weeks all up on 3 toons just to get 24k/24k/10k on my monuments. you can do it too!
Might have picked some this week 
this is bravery, im sitting at like a 9-10x bonus per hour for hours

You'll get there 
You need more hours
I just picked it once tbh
Yeah that's completely fine
might pick some up when I do another run tomorrow thanks
M0000000000000000RE H000000000000000000000URS
i just pushed my bravery from 50k hrs to 100k hrs within this monument week. (hit it today actually). its not bad once u have a decent multi.
I've been doing monuments since release so the capped stuff is at 99% and it's easier for me to pick weak gains like opal chance
my lvl is only 12k but higher % ?
fountain really juiced out monument hours
is there actually a benefit for adding more hours to the monuments? extra monument multi?
~~higher fountain multi/bravery multi?~~I can't read
and it's wisdom so no multi
Reading should be tried
bravery: min/max damage increases
justice: more starting coins
wisdom: more attempts
all help you to get farther in the run. so yes. there is a point. most believe only bravery is worth it though
Mostly to bravery since that means more damage but the other have very very minor increases as well
I only need one more B tier gem upgrade to clear that section... but I must buy 2 of them.
And it's Instagrow Generator.
hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm interesting.
bravery scale per 8 hour
justice scale per power of 2
wisdom scale per power of 10
Literacy rates in idleon - a global crisis?
I've got like 220k bravery hours, it helps
although I just got rid of my +21 monument afk multi on jars
might take time to learn how to read now that lava is in hiatus
duo lingo
Next patch will buff the skill to the moon 
Perception stat update
bro I need single lingo
and yes, afk multi is important. i get 34 hrs for 1 hr afk. thats nearly 1.5 days per hour, or a month's progress per day. multiply that by 9 or 10 characters doing it, and you're flyin
NEXT UPDATE: 20 pet packs, 42 bundles, all new bonus to kill roy to buy a 4th fight for 50$ and also get 200 free fights, all 3 master class bundles
how long do i need to fight the AC crystal mobs to max out the crystal bonuses? ive been afking for like a day+ now and its only at 1.152x
next W7 skill should be reading books
we've had enough of the staring at the screen skills
He's gonna get me with that killroy pack 
U mean gambling
hes going to add it to tome too 
check ur max in AC skill tab (last page)
That's normal. It takes very long and the time depends on several factors
is it just me or does idleon have worse daily scape THAN IRONMAN DAILY SCAPE (runescape_)
@lilac nest AC kill reqs also aren't static. Each increase takes more kills
omg
bro where is arcade reset brobrobro i cant do this anymore
It's something you need to either do overnight or set aside some days. Certain maps also take way longer than others
im just gonna do afk rate at gmush and call it a day haha
g mush and current cluster farm map (rams or frogs) would be my baseline
Yeah that's one of the slowest maps to do so good luck 
make sure youre doing the right crystal type in gmush
There are many niche maps that are good to do but it very much depends on how you can play
is it not beans for statues?
also afk + dr on clammies and moons (and stillmoles if you are going for vial 13)
ahhh alright
heya, is there some upgrade that I must ignore? to do this fast
As said there are a lot of maps you can do (and many that people generally don't even think about) but it depends on how you are able to play. If you can overnight then it's not too bad to sink like three nights into getting 1.3 DR mult on some map for drops/candiyng
No fast. Only suffering
tbh just mindlessly use the optimizer I guess
i just kept all equal cost (always upgrading "decrease cost" ones first). took 1 week to complete equinox
ahh alright ima just settle with gmush for the coin gmush kills thingy

do I only DK active
or setup others too for afk?
I did it AFK with 9 guys because I value my active time higher
i did some afk there over night while dk was active so that if it hit reset in the morning, i could farm some levels on dk after reset, then cash in on hours afk from other character. it was my focus. gains are definitely by and large from DK active
sabadabalright
AFK is at the mercy of getting a re-roll on claim but it sucks to sit there actively as well. Kinda pick your poison I guess
all depends on what u want to focus. always an opportunity cost involved when not doing something else
I guess active, cause others are prepping for Statue week
This was my last snap before the promo. I did it months ago and going a little extra on the clam comrades does help
how much damage is 1 blue damage
no ur good
i dont even talk in non crystal damage so it doesnt matter
1 crystal damage is my new baseline
non crystal damage is so 2025
if ur under crystal, you should leave w7. js....
numbers aint even real;
if you are under crystal go back to #idleon-gen-chat
im just annoyed he caps at 1m crystal then keeps expanding digits. just let us go to B,T,Q, and e's
give us purple crystal dmg
whatโs the best character to try and get a better score on this for tome?
AC?
well we're at a million trillion crystal so ya, there should be another tier lol
does anyone know the bubble efficiency threshold to be able to use atoms on something like Spear Powah?
Nuggets guys
Can't use atoms on those
I think I did it with DB, graveyard on the platform as suggested by the DB guide
at all? damn
alr thank you
obligatory invincible gif
thats saddening ๐
if its farming crop/essence stuff, then ya. no need since it doesnt have the 1050M cap
what amount of gmush kills are you guys at ? idk when to stop for w7
But it's fine just get like e20 yellow bits and you can upgrade a bit
it's just NBLB at that point
when u get trillions of crop per harvest, it isnt hard
dont stop\
yeah i'm at 133t and it still has so much effect
oh that was a bits one.... ya that ones dumb
I was hoping I could cheese the levels to get to 95% but guess not ๐
Yeah can't level those manually anymore after like 390-395 bubble level
umm, my spear powah is 898...
You just never stop
Yeah it's just waiting for daily bubbles after that point is what I meant
gotcha
im pretty sure there are more bundles in the game than weapons 
just level everything else and let NBLB do the work /s
Fine.
(works until lvl 10k)
pretty sure there are more "exclusive" pets than regular pets now 
That's why you eventually want to have everything that you can level at 10k so your daily only hits the stuff you can't push (endgame madness)
Would be a lot easier if Lava hadn't nuked anvil and critter claims in favor of "fixing" mobile
guys guys, chill its not a competitive game, leaderboards are just a third party thing stares into the void that is tome with 3 gacha mechanics 
At this point I'm just considering I'm not playing the same game as you guys
Interesting. Love the afk claims on mobile, basically useless to do hole activities on the skilling resources
this is a lot of fun, thanks lava
took me 3 days...
took me 5 days 
I cant wait to spend a week just falling down this platform
you can do 2 per fall if you click very fast
took me 5 days aswell, i got so mad
good call, i wasnt doing that thanks
you can do 3 if you walk up to the left most and then click and the third one you can get falling
You can actually do 3 if you click really fast
You can actually use them all if you click really fast and dont fall.
But it's more fun this way, I liked it haha
how do you don't fall?
say no, you cannot fall without consent
you can WASD?
I tried, it wouldnt let me
there was a point in time after pet companions and bundles were released where people were pissed because of leader boards on third party sites, then tome got added 
Tbh I'm more pissed that updates nowadays are more pack/pet than content
can't
is this still valid or do i run all blue
its valid
dont forget about the 3 masterclasses, and fountain update made to boost active hours on steam, then never released the other masterclasses
update and nowadays are two words that dont currently mix well together
Whatโs the deal with this guy?
Bring him the pretty
Whatโs the pretty?
he wants this
w7 shop, scroll all the way down 
Ah. Thatโs expensive
Do it on AC 
deliver it to him and he might get you something nice
make sure you pick up the something nice he might give you
Rules of Reliquarium:
Can't teleport to map (it will explode on you)
You have 60 seconds to clear 60 mobs on the map
uhhh
you also lose a bit of damage while holding it
I will need to do delivery 7 during statue week
thats all i remember
What does it give?
speaking of statue week 
(you instantly die if you try teleporting)

One of the best f2p nametags
Something really good
Damn, thatโs good.
i wanted to see how much damage i would have trying to do reliquarium 8
48 crystal damage max
turned into 48 crystal damage
what's the strategy here?
I bought it, I couldnโt teleport back to the map and when I tried to walk there the portals were gone? Now the item has disappeared
what should my last super be/
y'all, do you have any tips on getting that funky hat from sneaking? i'm already spending weeks on the bottom floor trying to get it, but im only grabbing those straw hats and its driving me crazy... will the "full sneaking auto trash" option not give new hats?
I AFK with everyone I can until the very last day and claim a river of spelunking exp.
Which won't be possible since I'm gonna need to resample so I'm claiming everyone on the very first hour of statue week, resampling, and AFKing for a week.
I haven't openned the game in 3 days might place everyone in spelunking tonight
yeah you have to kill 60 mobs per map and you have 60 seconds to do so leading to the coralcave guardians map
(and yes it closing all maps in w7 is intentional)
Prior to that I hadnt opened the game in...200 hours~
Can you do mine as well?
It will trash the hat but it will count for equinox
aint no way 
yeah state of the game is kinda sad rn, its just squeezing out the top of the barrel whales and then letting everything else trickle down to the noobies
as far as I know when you level up statue, in order for it to be saved you need to visit statue man with all 10 chars. idk how that'll work with statue bonus. any guesses anyone?
Spelunking really ruined my lab gains 
spelunking level 350 is better than divinity levels right?
take it
I should be covered either way given I deposited a few millions prior to this.
how long did it take you to get the hat?
those levels were also prior to maxing every legend talent that contributes lab exp
if I took a week to AFK lab I'd probably hit close to 800
imagine needing a week
you're supposed to do this in a day mr nap
tell lava to remove spelunking and i'll go back to lab 
like a week of deleting hat every hour or so (the option didn't exist back then)
I will do a snail mail run, which map do you recommend?
first map, stamina pot setup.
1 character at a time I think?
why not 3
getting more depth gets harder and harder
ty
why does glimbo map constantly have meteors hitting everywhere but where the mobs are....
The P in ES is for perfect aim
and performances

the F in Idleon is for free to play
You just gotta make the ability drop 500 meteors on each proc, surely one of those will hit every mob at some point
is it usually often that lava gets quite
What you mean "often"? It has happened from time to time over the years
it's a bit of a pattern
not that long usually
you know the game is bad when the challenges that people do in the game solely are reliant on doing the game f2p and nothing else 
Wut
I think I remember him saying on stream that he might release that one countdown surprise the next time he resurrects from the dead so maybe that's the reason
Guys do we have any update on lava, did he die? did he have a heart attack?
We had some periods where he was MIA for quite some time. Sucks but that's how he is
I think people would be less pissy about it if he just came out and said "Guys I need to take a break from the game for a while, dont count on any updates"
Yeah usually he tells us "Hey i'd rather give quality than rush so give me time"
hes probably just looking through reviews, copy and pasting the same thing over and over trying to get people to spend more money
and we chill out
Sure but that's also how he is. Like we've been through the whole song and dance of "pls communicate" multiple times and it never sticks for long
Personally I'm chill about content and always have been
i like the content, i just wish it wasnt mostly cash grab, and some content
yeah something like "let me cook" and then we will let him cook
This would of course need to come with a complete attitude adjustment where he stops doing just that, and commits to what I believe is the bare minimum.
... well
im sour the first few weeks typically. now that its normal behavior and status quo, im over it
The silver lining is that there are still systems you can throw 10 chars into and AFK for as long as he does.
same
tbh I am getting a bit burned out of the game so it's a perfect time to step back
How to get more villager exp aside opals
monument
statues
jar
This was me 270 hours ago.
i agree i just also really want to get to the end of w7
Uhh figure it out 
I'm just loading in every once in a while to get dailies done
tesseract bonus is HUUUUGE btw...
This still helps alot ngl
42M from monument is crazy
That's basically what I do. One character is essentially the sacrificial lamb that gets its spelunking exp grind interrupted so I can get my nxlb procs, shop purchases, refinery and equinox done.
I'm doing W7 card farming so being afk is good for me I guess
Is it
Yea. There's still plenty of reasons not to open the game right now 
Fr
another is my friend coerced me into starting another terraria save
The fun aspect is that I pretty much only ever picked vil xp on purpose through bravery since the other monuments had more unique buffs. I also stopped picking it completely after villagers didn't matter much anymore. Carried by bravery buff now 
Terraria is a ๐ผ game
jsut went from 30b to 2.7t on oak logs
That's craxy
It's also 4m not 42m
Still 4m is alot
Woah huge
can't beat the allegations
What a timing
It's pretty much all bravery multi and the fountain buff. Like the amount of levels isn't high for how long I'm playing bravery
2 month ago I did a max multi run on every monument only picking exp and It got me to 2M additive so it's pretty good to catch up (I got to 1M additive just from bravery alone during monument week)
Yeah it's dece I just don't care about villager xp in any way 
I just wanted to grab the lvl 200 study
Not even 20k levels in justice
justice is better spent on exp imo
I want to unlock all hole with explorer
Wisdom 
Like it's kinda cool for total levels on my study man but then again I don't think it does enough for me to care
is it just me or should crit and mega crit affect your afk gains, because like....
it should also affect your overall damage......
crit was just another forgotten mechanic 
Fr
Crit's a meme
does someone knows where the observation of research lvl 72 is ? the one that should be near the summit in w7 can't find it
It should
thx
Crit matters for certain dmg related things like emperor kills or dmg dummy but it's very niche these days
Well, the crit dmg matters. The chance is still a meme
active farming too if i didnt have that damage while active farming i wouldnt be doing anything active
Get more dmg then 
IM TRYING SOBS
Can someone explain why my salt shaker has never refilled once since sushis release?
Actually legit buff is from research. The dmg multi for the stickers is preeettyy goood
i got 2 stickers
Need to put 1 research point into sushi station
Lol
Welp then it's not going to be good. Sry
this is with golem btw, and im at 1.3m blue damage, I WOULDNT EVEN HAVE 200K BLUE DAMAGE IF IT WASNT FOR PET COMPANIONS AND THE SECOND TO LAST IS LITERALLY 100B BLUE LIKE WHAT BRO, HOW DOES THIS MAKE SENSE
Level your feasty statue and main coldseeker bullets
f2p game btw ๐คฃ
im getting to sleep so im doing active exp farming on es for big talent level gains
im almost at +100 levels
Uge
Hugh
other than that i need to candy 3-4 zenith statues and then buff out the rest of statues and zenith farm
does kruk not work if you dont log in?
Probably not but idk
XD
Daily stamp/meal hits also don't work without loggin I think? Not sure
What is gonna be the best afk for the statue buff?
I may rotate spelunk and lab most the time but trying to make sure I get the most of it
Lab and splunk are the two main choices.
is there something that scales with total lab lvl?
Bravery dmg scales with total skill levels through measure. There's probably also something that cares about lab levels itself. AC crit? Idk something is out there
For lab people also care about the div xp levels for more juice from arctis
finally a non-repeat pristine charm
You might wanna start buying them at some point
I might need to farm some symbols
Does anyone have rare pets to spare? I have done the free spin since the beginning, but not very lucky
This inspired me to successfully hit a 14% on a toon slot for the first time in months
I have mafioso and spearfish to spare If you can wait 4 hours
bro just casually punched spiked gloves and took 0 damage
A L C H E M Y
L000L
bro has his FMJ pumped up to the max
That would be awesome, but my timezone does not allow 4 hours regrettably! Thanks anyway!
man...
lmao
rigged
we'll all report your rng its fine we got you
its a sign to grind those shimmer bonuses
still stuck on opera mask
Keep for gstack?
Im missing 2 from the last island
Yeah, doesn't take too long at higher rates
high octane Gaming
where maw
Took quite a few 1hr claims

we dont talm about it
anyone fancy some nuts
last I check it's not called bruno so we cab talk about it
WHATS AFTER THIS?!?!?!?
it's this
BR0000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000
I THOUGHT I WAS ALMOST FUCKING DONE
It's whatever lava wants to be
so a 1b$ bundle that comes in 2 parts?
Why you don't just spend a 2 hour claim and get the free artifacts?
Thereโs tons of hard updates to keep us busy until new things comes out ๐
Also "almost" is not the right term here, it will take some time to get every artifact max tier.
Yes you seem to be quite familiar with lava
also can someone explain to me, why my trade offers havent been able to be completed lately....
like for sailing im getting like 375m per trade for rare treasures from an island AND IM AT 1.3M
Lvl 50 but 320k exp rate, chat am i cooked?
eyyyy we back in it
Well here obviously you dont have enough of the material to trade
Min trade is equal to the loot value of your first boat
ty for that
It's also a dynamic value based upon your total amount held at that point. Like if you do a trade, enter/exit gemshop, the trade is then updated to a different number based on the current total you have
lmao, coding error found, the lava eats the examine menu
Getting mobbed by your min value means you need some boat upgrades
please dont mention that, they make me sad enough already ;-;
i didnt abuse the 1/1000000000 screw up lava did and couldnt turn gold into gold
Its an allegory that Lava is eating your sense of self
Neither did I and I'm a huge boat haver
you I need to farm island 1 to get more value in trades?
annnnd im a huge noob :3
Farm the same island -> upgrade the loot value
hello huge noob, I'm filthy casual
Every 8 levels into loot upgrade on a boat is a breakpoint that gives higher gains than a normal level
@hazy vortex ty ty i really needed that
So you kinda want to go through your boats in order and do 8 levels on each (if you can't afford to easily do 16, 32, etc)
Toolbox tells you the breakpoints as well
is this worth?
I got crazy loot multis from fountain so I might get more boats when i'm done with artifacts
it is unfortunately time 
Best active cash farming map
if you are struggling with damge I would say no
How good of an idea is to leave all my chars getting spelunk scrolls for a few days? Just unlocked w7 like 2 days ago but not sure if its a good idea compared to sending them to lab/div jail or getting some monument afk
i wouldnt say struggling, i would say dying
Its good to get some levels on all your chars ๐๐ผ
Not even m 
Spelunk jail in cave 1 is something you have to do, yes. Can't say how important it is right now compared to other things for you. If you do go for splunky, READ the AFK display in the first scroll cave to make sure you actually have enough efficiency for xp and scrolls

just dont look at statues, boats, damage, monuments, obols
๐คฃ ๐คฃ
brother man bill you gotta stay on top of this 
id crumple my account up and throw it in the trash if i wouldnt miss, and see 1.1t spores fly everywhere
90% of my DR comes from orion
wait fr?
90% 
shoooow meeeeee
holy shmoley
Stop the cap
ok maybe not 90% but a lot
wow thats terrible
people call me the marbiglass guy, i call myself the marbi ass guy
Cakes watching this from corner
you have more dr than me in the previous 6 worlds in orion ๐
but seriously the one clicker you dont wanna slack on is orion
Do it again
is there soeme new ballot week already
honestly less than I thought
my nuggets seem to be neverending
How many rainbow feathers bro ?
๐ง
WHAT
Ohh I am on 15
Is theres any clamwork guide?
This is good base it get multiplied by nametags and other things
Gamble
Wha?
so other than the pet the gives 2x orion bonuses what other bonuses are slacka lackin?
: /
Pain
ignore me missing yum yum desert w3 and w4 and w6 trophy
I will not ignore it. In fact, I'm judging
should i turn the statues in or get zenith clusters
you should be reading 8 stacks of these suckers a day
w3 is a pain in the ass
only the w6 trophy is important in that regard
Where is 9 darter
almost a decent bell 
i do basketball and darts less than anything else in thegame
W2 trophy is boss dmg which is a seperate value and therefore kinda good for emperor/shimmer dummy
are you using the optimizer?
skill issue
hi shokeen
i had about 32 of my 37 points invested before i started using it
zenith clusters or exp
9 darter too difficult 
is that the shape setup they're telling you to use 
Hi birb
Skill issue
i hit 120 different achievement like today or yesterday
double cluster?
its really funny for only like 5% of players to have nine darter
dont look at steam achievements for the game
I would go for it ;d, idk what's the meta now but it seems like that
i looked at the steam achievements and literally like 95% of the them are 2% of players or less
double cluster will be your eventual super focus, but the other upgrades are cheap enough for you to level them up a bit. Unsure how many zenith clusters you're getting per hour though
me too
id say like 20
id say a big part of that is people playing for 10 mins and uninstalling, also mobile players
ooga booga <------ i will be using this to come back to chat @mortal trellis but im getting ready to get sleep
its like 5% of the active playerbase
stop putting points into things like these
since ive gotten 1920 farming since 12 am and now its 4 pm
and these
You shouldn't be doing that yet imo. That return is not good
I mean do it a little, that's fair
im so good at farming
But don't get stuck here
i honestly thought krukking along was good because i wasnt manually leveling stat bubbles, but i thought it became extra good when i got 4/5 bubbles unlocked and am getting the fifth one soon
although this is a little outdated, use this
bigger priorities
have you reached the button yet?
in the process of farming it but its sooooo haaaaaaaaaard with booty damage
didnt realize there was a spirit lock on it till i got to the map ;-;
bell REALLY doesnt want me having wishes
How many attempts left
stuff like this isn't doubled... when you can post your summoning upgrade interface
because youve got a lot of endless that needs to be pushed
AJESGNBijsrdznglbksdtnmhglksdtnhouksdth
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@mortal trellis if i remember correctly, i can just get 5/6 chars and then just do speedrun mechanic on vman to go ahead and get the last lock done right?
yessir
Np that's fair amount, soon massive wishes with doubles on the extra levels too
got myself a zebra bell smh
thx
also i forgot to say this but i didnt realize this could be doubled, can you get to the point that you can get everything in summoning doubled? and how do i get to that point? gambit? i literally forgot how to get summoning doublers
when you can, reset your opals, distribute 20 each to the other villagers, and max +2% per 5 opal box here (taking from ideally idleon bonuses). Will likely result in more xp overall
am I reading this wrong? Did you stop at unlocking marble?
post your summoning interface when you get the chance and I'll help you
honestly, since im not doing golems atm, i dont mind my spread:
yellow water is currently locked and im getting ready to try and unlock it and then marble speed and waterbender and then just afk active on it
idk man ig cavern just wants me to main jars forever
well reset your opals and distribute them like I was saying (as well as redistributing your conjuror points)
ya, i just got bell to lvl 40 and was considering reset but dont feel like riskin it after seeing these spreads. i'll chill
should i do that even though i have max on the other caverns except for cosmo and not having the explorer have next caverns unlocked when they come out 10 years from now?
the bell I had at ~35 study was significantly better then what I can roll rn 
also holy shit i cant read
it will likely result in more xp for your conjuror
try it with just 10 opals on the other guys first if you'd like


Started nicely but ended up hitting villager xp a bit too much
Ugh...pushing 56 -> 60 Megacrops is going to be pain. I just got my first Medal Megacrop...
i always save 100 wishes these days. thats my new base.
hope you're ready for 80 stickers : D
Did you end up getting it btw
indeedo
Seriously? Can I please just get 60 first?
What is the best way to push it, just get more OG chance?
What's left?
wdym?
Equinox challenges
go for this when you're attempting to push... you'll need to reset into an essence setup when not pushing, due to your lower amount of doublers
Damn not bad at all
darts never gonna happen and I dont like gaming so thats what Im stuck with for a while
how do i get more agian?
palettes not a good enough buff to care for
Can concur, never getting the Darts or Hoops trophies.
gambit
whats going on here?
uhhhhhhh *chuckles
you see... i was trying to go for new crops and then got really lazy
can someone tell me the map pls
Yeah understandable. Good to wait for palette week and just knock it out of the way then, should be almost no effort. Darts I would maybe recommend throw first 6-9 and just exit if you don't get it. Get some practice little by little if you're afking fountain
"Doesn't Existo Un-da-da-C"
Pallete week soon 
you need to be stacking these, 1k of each crop (minimum)
i was getting ready to do that once i actually got my stuff stacked, because now im starting to not have 2 hour timers on the lowest plant (i use to) im getting ready to legumulyte for beans
Farming is the most important skill in the game
wait for real?
eh probably not
but you need to return to basic seeds and get 1k of each
then do the same for earthy and for bulbo
i mean this is pretty juicy even though its ๐ถ
this is a must and it will make farming feel a lot better
its like almost priority 1 that you go do this real quick
(and it takes like 10 minutes)
gotcha ill worry about this
easy nugget gains when you get a moment (dont sweat it of course)
i did like a full 2 hours of gaming today, i got +14m nugget, 8 new colors and like 80 levels, ill come back to it soon
Yeah, are you insant in pallette off mode yet?
in town i think almooooost, with both palette speed buffs unlocked
Make sure to insert nuts into squirrel speed as well
a few more crops found in farming and youll get there probably (farming gaming bonus increases gaming speed)
I keep getting less and less wishes/bfr and more torch....
I don't wanna push sanctum 
i might actually be instant 
ragebait warning
what I had before I started trying for better :/
is this the one I should be using?
close but not quite
wdym?
I might also recommend to upgrade your gaming meal ribbons to like t5
It helps a lot because the fertilizer bit and speed upgrades are both very strong and bits get you xp too
where are your equinox points going to?
a few of these would be really nice to have supered before they dissappear
@mortal trellis probably fountain and villgar and maaaybe research?
namely: research xp, meritocracy, village xp multi, summon xp multi, and fountain speed
summon exp is cheap and super powerful
Woah
yeah kind of a tricky spot, consider the following:
holy self control
Lava has been giving us pretty weak gold ball multis lately
-_-
i was looking at my 1k balls and said fuck it we balling
how many gold balls do you think he'll get from that stack of 6k?
i shit you not, i just didnt want to stare at my screen for a fucking hour watching them tick down
depends on what he has for golden ball %
you gotta spend 5 blue balls so you can go 69 69
^^^^^^^
How many gold balls, I have 1,1k too. Not sure if save or use
FUCK IT IM MAXING BURGER MEMES OVER GAAAAINS
i think it was around 40k
but im missing the super on golden balls -_-
wth dude
๐คฒ
(my genuine reaction)
Same. I will save for now, I have fountain, research and merit to pick from and that amount wouldn't really make a difference right now
67
aodc, seeing as how you're likely top 10 players in the game, should bent pickle spend a bunch of arcade balls right now without a gold ball multi?
top 10 ๐ญ
maybe spend 2k of them atleast and see what happens?
sorry, top 5
only top 10? i could top that in a week
normally I'd say no, but theres legit no signs of another update happening ever.. so.. idk
crazy
I would personally do it. At least for villager and summoning xp. Cheap and strong, no?
i would do the same tbh
what the... esoteric #endgame-gen-chat datamining??
so thats the 10 count all about big patch
i guess
I JUST REALIZED ITS A DAMN MULTI
beguile baiting us 
arent we only on 8 rn? Are we skipping 9?
thats what he said according to unnamed sources familiar with past lava streams
from reddit
Who said lava knew how to count
:3
wait did u edit that
This is better
No
damm
I tweak it
Somebody told him to try and he posts back with this masterpiece, did not disappoint
am i saying fuck it and ballin bois? @upper karma @mortal trellis
I tweak this with gold cakes
yes brother man spend 2k as a test run
now get class exp to 420x
That's the hard part 
if next shop bonus is gballs ima go jump in the fountain
i mean you should do that already you're 1 upgrade away from marbleizing 
Do it for the villager xp and summon xp, skip others. They are so cheap and strong compared to new stuff
monument afk is nice too
i got it ๐ฏ
especially before you get your hours on to get the multis on each monument
Can someone link the super talent guide?
i cant find the bubba guide in pinned, can someone link me up?
It's in tips section
i got meat now 
What server is this? How do I see it? I see it referenced all the time as no access
isnt that the guide that expects you to interact with it alot?
go to #๐read-me and click the peanut
Son Acquired
U mean optimizer
I don't understand what u talking
Oh u got to mf10 u can follow Tango guide that is in bottom of previous guide
ye the doc, i just found it
what are we R20ing after peachring these days?
did it work for gold balls and did you manage to get some new crops or are you sleep 
summoning exp
Skill eff
That was not even cards changed
thanks all. got 1 r20 in storage and another on the way so wanted to know current thoughts
ZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz
thanks for reminding me bubba exists
LMAO
Someone know what to unlock to get the sushi station? (Please, if you can I'll just take a screenshot with dots that show what I need to unlock, English is not my first language) I'm kinda stuck and can't find it
you need research point into it i think its j3
J3
then just get to sushi map which is 1 after sunken ship
I can't find it and what to get before to unlock J3
its that one
also if you need a solid way of viewing the entire grid, https://corgan.github.io/idleon-research-optimizer/research-optimizer-v2.html this tool lets you do just that
Ohh... I was trying to unlock st the left ๐คฆโโ๏ธ
If I afk my chars at mantras then use them once itโs statue week will get that statue week bonuses on my chars and get more items
mantras?
Never punished
can i turn off colours and keep those special plants i need for dreams?
actually it'll harvest all of them
hmm. guess i stick it out for the last 2 then
though if you get a low enough growth speed, you could just turn palette off, stand in w5 town and harvest anything except chems
locking chems means that dream is now trivial, go to w5 town and harvest all for a few hours
chems are locked. standing in w5 town makes the speed faster?
yes
They get auto harvested
Yes
Prob made like that so that you can turn of the cat
Ooh i dont wanna work today
its the lamp wishes i want and not getting 
most of your daily wishes should be coming from justice
you can always reset lamp if you dont get what you want
Finally 
still stuck at 45 perfecto ๐
Is there a way to tell what the highest tier sushi is without just going for it?
I gonna do 54 next then go back to privious ones
Wdym
Highest is 59 for now

54 is less painfull because u got 50 before 
Thank you. I stopped at 54 for awhile, because I didn't realize it was the highest, at the time, and just ended up losing one of them. Only knew more were added when a salt shaker bumped one of my 54s ๐
is there an okay "stopping point" on fountain?
E26 on every upgrade 
i dont see the point after you 3m marble everything 
yikes. I cant even get 1e24 on every upgrade
i like the first/easy natural of e24min on everything and 3m marble completed on everything
inb4 next update that gives us green water
Does it actually make it faster to stand on w5 or is it just that it refreshes more often
my guy, lava evaporated. Updates are fake
thats prob like arcade fountain superd, many points into lamp fountain, good bell hits on coins, 3m marbles on big multis and ~1 sec fills
Yes growth speed is faster there.
my sprout speed says 6.4 sec but it feels way faster when in w5 town
it is
weird how the tutorial didnt mention anything about it being faster when here. at least i dont remember that being a point
2ND TRY BABYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY
its just one of the weird things that you learn at some point
never punished ๐ฅ
dang i need that flag shit
is bolulu the only way to increase marble apart from leveling the node?
broken asf
i actually got INSANELY lucky there not getting 8 free squares
well minehead is just hoping for good luck anyways xd
wait does this mean that every single square surrounding this flag was a safe option?
did that a while ago
What research level is flag?
yeah
the thing about flag is that it costs like 35 to 45m
holy shit you got so fucking lucky 
but the square itself isnt for sure
THATS WHAT IM SAYING
slide me some of that luck so I can beat purrhead 
bruh im in luck debt now
you either want super big count, 1 when you got a shield, or 0
anyone have that image showign what each amount of spelunking pages gives
watch out for falling pianos if you go outside to touch some grass
imagine a 7 on a flag then you can clear everything XD
whats this grass you talk about?
68 i think
cant you click the flag too
its not gaurented to be a safe one
you can but its not for sure
now keep going 
I didnt realize dice cap in bubba lol
This game hates me
both are capped here
I learned. haha also, is there a reason you arent pushing megaflesh? just having fun building mults?
Just git gud
well i dont actually care for the clicker stuff, i want bonuses
imagine "self learning" for BUBBA
to get max bonuses you need to push boons
and then you make 1 of 30 possible mistakes and get softlocked
and theres a multi in the next fountain which he teased us with
its an allegory to real life
working as intended
kind of have to when no one did it
Getting bricked because the design is unfriendly for learning 
and tangos guide is micromanage it D:
oh you mean when it released, also known as not right now 
Have fun progressing 4 orders of magnitude slower than everybody else at bubba
i mean like a month ago or two
That for button presses?
Knowledge is to be shared, the fact that you go to school and not have to relearn everything is proof of that 
grass is green ahh
they are few and far between tbh
dont you just love it
0.003dollars per penny
thats how my friend used his prisma bubbles in 5 trash tier bubbles
It's just that many people say guides are cheating, but it's literally what we do everyday on a daily basis, we learn from other's experiences, a guide on a game is not the exception
fuck u shok
Yes please
oh the joys of self learning and getting screwed because theres no going back 
i dont think ive seen 1 person say guides are cheating :o
@charred condor heโs all yours
I am not sure that its a fair analogy. This is a game not real life
it all depends on why someone plays a game
same with exalts for me, kinda silly for him to make most mechanics just click when u can upgrade something
to pass the time? to entertaint yourself? to challenge yourself?
Knowledge doesn't apply only to real life, you know? Even hobbies require us to learn.
depending on your choice of playing a game, the judgement about guides changes completely
think I should be able to hit next mf next gift open lol
tbh nowadays you can just spam smokes and you dont even "need" to do a big push with gifts
i know that because on my last reset i tried going for many bubba boons and could buy mf before the gifts opening
how many bubba boons levels you got?
only 39
wow grind time is a scam now that i think about it
i managed to get to 42 but its at e40 costs rn XD
it used to not be
yea but now its like giga scam
I screwed up my charisma this mf by accidently leaving it on the wrong thing lol
oof that hurts
exhibit A
why?
justice op
i mean its not thaaaat bad, least it did not went into dice luk
:o
holy savy XD
man, you have been on that run for so long. that is wild
way too long
JUST RESET MY MAN 
surely
he likes to see big numbers go up
bagel lock in
its understandable.
Can i complete the collecting all stealth hats dream with autotrash on?
Nice
Thank you spirits of idleon knowledge
chatW7gpt
Just do double meteorite and autotrash shouldn't take long
Alright alright
Why is my damage so low
because you only have 36k hours, and also probably low measure
also that
Would my current damage be enough to get a chance of bravery multi
Is there a way to hide the amber gain in splunking? Like not popping up?
Yes
Finally got the T
I was wondering when its going to appear
100000Mx: Nothing
1000000000000Mx: nothing
Suddenly T
(My perspective, not objective numbers)
Wait.... is it.... goes up after killing with right most.... or it goes up after 1 hitting with right most?
1 hit
I was about to go mad like WUT
yeah one shot with rightmost sword
I hate how rerolls on any sword remove it ๐ซ
dont risk it after you have odds to not get it or you curse your entire run
Yep
if you watch the rolls and see that the one shot won't be happening, you can tap a couple of other swords before it lands and still use the accumulated damage on those rolls before it resets
better safe than sorry but sometimes it'll save you on an unusually low roll
get free kills and proceed to play normally
random question, i am very early w7 and divinity god rank 2. Should I invest points into raising divinity rank or on coral kid? I assume divinity rank because I wont be able to unlock coral kid things at this point. But at what point do I go put things in coral kid?
The next roll after my free ones is like 99% always another auto
Is there a way to hide the amber gain in splunking? Like not popping up?
you kinda want to get coral upgrades before doing that
cus theres one of coral kids upgrades that scale div points with coral upgrades
ah okay well then im very glad i asked :3 Thanks!!
god rank is mostly just the exp multi
oh, salt going well
damage multi for the account too and bonus divinity xp for god ranks
good reminder
is it even multi
Lets goo
yeah i know about that but is it even a multi
1b rn
well so i went back to the wiki just now, my total account divinity rank is 776. Coral kid upgrades unlock at
900 for class xp multi
1250 for minor link buff
1700 divinity pts
2200 for daily coral
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naw my rank is like 500 or something lol itll take awhile i just hate leaving what im doing to go check on refinery or moving from sailingg to refinery
wont rank up more besides the newest tab till he adds it to quick ref
we get Statue week soon, do some divinity
my bad, part of the additive damage increases
yeah i have been. I have 1 active farmer and 9 lab slaves atm haha
I think it says that when u click him
as it should be 
this has been my pov for the past 2 weeks or something
div week when
What do you yall prio in zenith?
same
Do you disable orange salt to work on this?
extra double clusters
?..
I claim them on Statue week
holy shit you hate refinery
me too
Even if you already over 100? ๐
everything is autorefine for me :
I am fine with my ranks, I just gather the salt
respect
or I just leave it on auto 
yes it keeps stacking
28 is crazy
kruk bubbles, clusters, true zen then whatever you want
oh yeah that would probably work too

not big ranks, but good enough for me
Got like 2-3 days of farming for my next kruk bubble. Lemme see which one is next
oh also another question, when i convert a statue to zenith, should i just send all my statues at that point? Or should I hold onto them
i only just finished the quest so i dont really know how it works lol
you also wanna get statues bonus up
Drop 1 million statue on npc, after it is zenith, you can deposit all always
nooooo. I dont wanna make bars....
havent had an issue yet
that will be probably 5 minutes and you got 50 million bars 
with a fast stacking up storage and bursting candy on Gmush with Archer
why... would I level that..
drop rate?

ya.. na
Also cuz nullo trash
glimbo nerf makes that just not.. worth it
I dont think even lava likes refinery
would rather save the nullo for tab 3
my sad little salt stacks lol
im not a auto refiner
haven been leveling the other salts tho
looks like you're not a refinery in general 
levels arent that bad for my game time
wouldd be crazy if he just doesnt do anything with the new salts and keeps them just a glimbo thing
ok procrastinated clicking nuggets long enough, pray for my soul
thats.. not how refinery works : /
holy refinery thats going to take a millenia to fix xDDD
i mean im getting levels up so the grind to 1b can be faster no?
not if you're constantly running out of salts
i got panda im not running out of salts
again.. not how refinery works
Does anyone know if there's a known bug about characters just... disappearing from the Sneaking tower levels? Like, only 9/10 characters show up
but to each their own
Wait, how does it work?
i dont run out, as long as yyour power per cycle is higher than the cost of the salt
man. yall are deep in refinery. I am so behind lol
this is also fine.
yea ig if you dont want a buffer of salts this technically works
r18 goes crazy
if refinery would be in Codex I would grind it
but too lazy to stop my active killing for checking W3 town
did u put points into ersearch for salts
issue isnt checking it, its maintaining the mats after a point
mainly why I just have mine all on auto
huh. neat. lol
with the mat stuff as long as its higher than an hour we chilling cuz i print them
2/4 1/2
eventually ill turn off some colors to stack them

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