#endgame-chat-w7🐟
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gg, shouldve unlocked gift5
this one
buy the %off from the shop and run that cave over and over until u get it
did i fuck up?🥲
oh forgot about the discount
its gonna take longer
Ah I didnt know that increased cost. Thank you. Good to know
but in this case, beeg + numbahs I guess
thanks
So is lava skipping the fourth week of "weekly updates" now?
from the looks of it, looks like that
Didnt he say 12 weekly updates
Did man die
He did that basically
nice NSLB hit
I want hits like this too
oh fuck i forgor i still dont have royal egg
Is Lava alive?
no
we finally get a break from the weekly hell. can yall stop trying to summon him back ty
no
Guys in research what's the difference btwn I5 and H5? first one is 1.25x, 2nd one is 25% +1try.
Is I5 a multi and H5 no? cuz in tier list I5 seems better than H5 (but gives same stats and doesn't give tries)
I5 is mult and H5 is not
ok thanks, then as i get +2 from lv 60 i ll put both there 🙂
if you're not on lv 60 yet, lv 60 gives an additional 7 points besides the 2 you get normally
so you've got plenty lol
oh damn. i m lv 59 😂 then i ve to give a check to what update (i wasted some points in early levels for shi.ts like offline research)
does anyone remember the quantity at which gems from sneaking dont really give more bonuses
100k, some still go for 1M since it's possible now
think technically 10M is just as possible but I doubt people care enough to go there
im grinding for better gear and i was wondering if it was worth to active farm a bit on the other lvls
Probably not. Barely any difference
I think it's not not worth it, just remember to enable and disable the advanced feature to use gems on hover (so you don't do tickover to daily reset with it on and misuse symbols)
yeah that i know, it would take way to long other wise
Hey so like
Why do these appear and my symbols dont ?
I dont know which setting I have on thats fucking me
Used daily symbol rolls? Full sneaking auto trash on?
Do you have full sneaking auto trash on?
Pretty sure full auto trash on from advanced settings kept fucking with my symbols
Uh yes
I turned this off tho and nothing changed
finally
gotta wait for daily reset before it takes effect
Maybe you used your daily chances, from my understanding symbols are charms that have a chance to transform into symbols, since full sneaking autotrash destroy charms that are under your max lvl it destroys symbols that come from these using your daily chances too
Oh okay, and for the farming of the gems to 100k/1m what gear are you guys running?
If you drop down to like m4 I assume you can run full item setup on a few guys, meteorite/yellow belt. Otherwise just basic setup with buffers using lotus and pushers with rosaries/silk veil
Oh ok yea i am doing that in m5
only 250mil left to go
How much /h? I could push that too maybe next week when I’m done with monuments
i get like 300k an hour and i leave 5 toons to afk there
i've been working on this for like maybe a month
one day 
its not like i got something else to do
damn thats the easy one
Me too ig except farming cards
i do daily reads, vials kinda exp
how many pages do you get per hour?
YOU HAVENT MAXED IT WITH THAT AMOUNT?????????
ye
HOW SO ITS GONNA TAKE YOU LIKE A FEW DAYS MAX
Is that a vial or a bubble
ye i got guys doing other stuff, ill come back to it at some point
bruh just spare a toon or too its not that hard AND ITS FREE DMG!!
damage does not much and i think the multi is negligble
a multi is still a multi tho
when my eff gets good so i can do it on vman in like a day is when i do it
What are your first page lore lvl?
ok than think about this the 1.02x multi that will affect ALL the other vials
FREE GAINS
not high, 7.5? 3.5? 1
good guess
considering that you have double my rate im close to you
it seems you been SLACKING
minmax how?
well doing the blue vial for literal monthes isnt minmaxing
Damn I’ll never get done with first page
maybe I should put some lvl in second tho
i mean i dont think we'll get any spulnking eff boosts anytime soon so...
i dunno, first page is weird
I mean its fine you can play as youd like lol
so the pages rate will always be kinda low
for some reason i feel attack idk why
This is about getting that feeling « one more thing done »
no attacks or passive aggressiveness, its more just i like overall progress
people play differently, plus lava powercreeps everything
i mean what do you suggest i do than?
not waste literal monthes, prrobably glimbo i guess your dr is bad
not really
sorry when i mean bad i mean not minmaxxed
and which trade should i do i did most of the possible ones
char is insane
ah i see
deckhand one is dogshit
char?
this one is so cheap, i shouldve done it earlier
im 1500 trades rn, cant pass 1600 for awhile since shinies are cooking me
ah i see maybe you're right im slacking
How many on laddles?
well not slacking youre just doing a task which isnt bad but i dont think its optimal
ladles are low
hmm i see i found my self another goal to work on after vial
Yeah I feel like that one has kinda decent scaling too, could probably push that a couple more trades with little effort
@mighty parcel the great work is finished, now to no life true zen lol
this is the fucking worst one man
thaat mf scales FAST
also why not max grand dis?
its cheap
But tbh it's kinda understandable. I think it was completely new multi for bits
because its not needed
(he doesnt do spelunking )
just the MAX LEVEL text is worth it
it scales like so so so so so exp
i mean im sure ill eventually max it but like shrug not til i get true zen to at least 10m cost
good luck but it will take a long time to max that one xDDD
1 in 10m 1 in 10m
Huh something’s not right with these numbers
Yeah I can see from the price increase
Any advice to keep progressing? im stuck https://idleontoolbox.com?profile=Harboock
dw you'll get that like in a 7or 8 upgrades
no way, did you not buy the event shop thingy? or is that just how it scales
JUST LOOK
Ah this is the why
cuz thats fucking so bad
The purple glimbo thing?
I have everything in second shop
oh you dont have the research node maxed is my guess then?
I have it maxed
Tbh I must've missed that one, don't have it 
there was one for cheaper trades?
I don’t have this one tho
mhm
why do i feel like you're judging me?
mhm = yes
BRO I WAS CONFUSED AND ASKING
i think youre reading too much into it
mhm is like the sound you make when agreeing
damn this im gonna go sleep
at least they are reading, thats a good thing for idleon players
lol
I don’t think there is a research node for cheaper trades?
@obtuse zealot What kinda multi you got here? Like ~33?
Is there a spelunking guide?
But I’m wondering why I have 3 more trades than you and my max lvl is 1 lvl behind that’s just weird
Damn so must be higher than 33. That's very solid upgrade for gaming honestly
that and the pet yeah
Should I make this trade
you new to farming?
I seem super far from this bar number
i am unsure
what is the best trade?
this is maxed right
the blue or green round things lol
this one coming up
not sure what youre treasure rates are but maybe doable off blue? with some 20min claims, or gold chest min on longer claims
wait that gives another level..
yea lol
bro i asked that a few weeks ago and someone said why would you want more coins
ooof
welp thankfully im sitting on 1 point
This is the one that would do the trick, the blue one isn't enough by a lot still
fair so 6 days not bad
is there a way to target this?
why is there a focus on gaming? something changed?
120 more levels each for poppy / orion
no focus on gaming, someone was confused why they had less levels than me. im pretty sure its cuz they miss glimbo additional levels maxed in research
Nah this is maxed
hmmm
can u ss you revent shop
actually no it wont be event shop
im unsure, anw my profile is public. idk what it could be, check if youre bored and compare :p
yo how do i deliver this? ]
Nah it’s ok I was just curious but this wouldn’t be the first time lava’s game is doing weird things, maybe the res node is not retroactive like it says it is
oh
just bout to start farm amber... literally 2 depth after i spend all my pots
thats actually probably it lol
am i cooked
waits to depth 237 to pop potions
I think first point invested was retroactive for me. Didn't even know it gives +1 on the level with extra point. Next point going there in 24 hours
my highest was like 280+
heres somem of my trades, can compare and see if theyre all higher
but yo usaid you want to farm amber, not to push your depth
deeper more amber gain
You do have to risk a push/amber still
Also possible that the event shop upgrade isn't retroactive and you maybe got it at a different time considering trade amounts?
the potions get much better with more stam spend
yup
absolutely no idea
guess i just unlucky
first time end in 230+ depth
Hey, I just realized that my mine head currency got reset? Anybody had the same issue? I had like 30m saved and now I went back to 2m
I don’t have event shop upgrade
I was saving for the Classic Flag :(((
Oh so it's probably that then?
nono cuz i dont either
O
Wait the npc is still here for you?
can click where he is
ya
Yeah I think it might be that the glimbo trades retroactive not working properly looking at the trade amounts and prices. I do have a feeling that there was a glimbo trade discount somewhere tho
that is event shop
nearly 3 weeks with no communication is crazy work
Yeah I see you have the discount one but not the extra trades
can't complain too much i was busy with the first wave of my college tests
if he does 3 more weeks thatll be perfect for me
i wanna finish pink salt and mc vial
lava seeing this and booking a trip to hawaai off the money of bundle buyers or smth
please take an extra week off my bundles alone
You got the glimbo trade discount too?
He is making sure we are saving money for future bundles, so considerate
unfortunately for us we have to pay back pay now
I'm in mobile for 5 months and I decided to play idleon on PC steam and it gave me 39 24 hours time candy
and interest
does steam exclusive give massive 24 hours time candy?
ye
mind explaining?
just tied to steam exclusive achievements i believe
and i think theres a one off for playing on steam aswell
its a bug i think
stuff like this
its supposed to give candy but instead of whatever candy it would give it just gives you 24 hours x achievements
such a mid reward now
yeah but w1-w2 achievements rarely have 24 hour time candy as a reward how the hell did I get 39 of 24 hours time candy?
also goodbye to all the pristine charms ive collected since playing
lol just keeping for fun?
yea i had like a cabinet
so steam exclusive gives 24 hours time candy?
my last like 2 or 3 was the ones i needed
im pretty sure it was like that when i started, you cant get them again tho
so if you do another achievement and go onto pc it wont give you more 24 hours
there still 10+ achievements I didn't do with some of them steam exclusive reward
no its like different
theres achievements in game that say like u get a reward
then theres the achievements you just have and log in for the first time and the game just juices your stuff with candy
Hi guys, is the last sushi tier 59 for yet ?
nice
Gonna get 999 wishes and see if i get told when the update drops
Guys is there any available spelunking guide?
I can see the future and you just wated 999 wishes
Yes I do
Sort of from what I have seen but it seem mostly based of the assumption you have all 5 elixirs unlocked I could be wrong tho you can check the pins for some information.
Nope I don't even know how to progress in spelunking
Do I upgrade the amber multiplier first or the energy?
half stam 1 guy, wish i started doing this a while ago
you could try reading from here down abit if you do not manage but ideally you wanna focus on getting stamina up , and your effiecny through the caves . I cant really say what the best way is but ive manage to get pretty far with just 270 Stamina on each person most of your stamina from what ive seen comes from the x ammount of stamina per 10 levels. what i usually do is I put some points into stamina and then focus on amber gain if i have enough damage on the cave I am currently on if not I try to level damage and amber somewhat steadily.
Regarding the pickture in my expiernece those are fairly important since overstim provide big boost in amber gain and the bonuses on the right side that circled is qutie useful for receiving daily amber based on your biggest haul in each cave. at around level 25/50 you might be around 100% amber gain daily of your biggest haul.
DO not fully quote me on this but this is what ive done and worked out somewhat for the most part.
Thanks man I needed this
your welcome hope it help some as I mentioned it not perhaps the most ideal way to go about it but I think it atleast somewhat helpful for a start. you can also look into some of your W7 bubbles there some that give splunking effiecency and regen.
Is there any point to sneaking after getting all the emporium purchases
pristine charms and masteries
both gives account bonuses
A week in w7 and it's confusing
Like my armor set rn is Amarok I think I need to upgrade it asap but don't have enough salts
wtf?
you're in w7 with w1 armor?
Yes
👀
Only have 5881 t damage I'm stuck at sea slugs rn
I forgot to add from what i read when i asked for help when u reach around Lunarheim the 6th cave mainly focus on stamina i would say but to start splunking best would be to actively afk farm the lore tomes in those caves so you can gain the pages and only use 100 at a time you if you can sicne you can only use 5 a day of any ammounts Id suggest doing 100 at a time if you have the patience since that help with upgrading effiency and natrually help with leveling and getting more scrolls
Okay Ill do this after I catched up on my w1-w6 skills
Kinda rushed my account
yhea i think you got allot of catching up to do XD I did the same still paying abit for it but i atleast have all of them up to godshard gear XD
I think I'm 2 months in
yellow blue und 3x purple elixirs?
What does godshard need do we need millions of bars?
i think you should mainly focusing on getting the previous armors first since they build into that eventually but yhea just a boatload of ingots and some W6 materials
Gg this is a long grind
any reason not to claim my Monument Afk before Merit changes?
idt there's any reason
Building up max days before the multiple
that doesnt correlate to monument hours
If you have low monument afK% and expect to get more from doing a monument
oh, duh, yeah i crossed wires in my head
i suppose justice?
im like 12 hours away(irl) from 100k
but if I recall correcly you have like 3.9K% so you are good
should juice your sword dmg on measurement before going
before this my highest cog was just t3 i'm pretty happy
thats alot more dmg than mine with the same hour count. im slacking on lvls
how far are yall pushing fountain?
im at QQQ-e24 prices,
and got marble speed to 3.29M cost [4.5x] ( so it now costs 50M for next )
and all the other marbles i think i'll leave at 3.29M and not buy them [4.0x]
My squirrel bits multi is at ×7 right now is that high or normal
i havent claimed my toons after getting to m7, lets see...
im still not touching my bit multi lmao
all in on speed
Yeah I've been doing that too with a bit of palette luck
Currently at like 860% something for speed
863.8% specifically
Whats your average skill level?
I used to balance out the squirrel upgrade levels 💀
do you drop your guys on the board for contruction levels?
yeah my spelunk is bad
i have all but 3 on board
which world should i be farming zenith shards in? I'm currently thinking about doing it in sand pots world 2
w1 frogs
w1 frog if you can achieve 4% respawn, else you go to rams
explain 4% respawn to me
threw these 2 on the board for now should be able to get them to a decent level
requirement is all 5 respawn name tags
my rams aren't that boosted yet by the Arcane C
you stack repsawn gear until you get 4% respawn on IT when you are in the map
plenty of time especially if you wont cap until end of merit week
might have to buy some lanterns
lanterns affects those..?
yeah
lol
not by alot but yeah
do we still have the 12 lantern a day bullshit?
mine is max on the 27th
gonna be insane gains
i had to send a bunch of 1.X runs for bravery to get the multi
12 days to max middle, one month to max bottom 
thats ok wisdom barely gives anything
you just like playing matching or?
I thought I should stop neglecting monuments and after wisdom I was like 'wait a minute there might be a monument week arounf the corner'
ive been stuck on this last one for like a week and a half im at 0.8% chance...
i just perma have that mindset and never do them
All mine are pretty neglected
oh this gonna be monumental gains for you
have you whaled the no monument left behind?
yeah you are pretty good then even if you don't get a bravery multi
it was level 112 when i got it lmao
people with poppy and egg are gonna be go juiced
soon
damn you be pirating with him
When using golden pocketwatch, does it affect any of the W7 stuff?
spelunking reads
I see. Thanks
lava needs money for the next update
What update he's clearly dead 💀
if you have all other pets, they don't shows up
I don't have hivemind
And he is not coming home 🙁
Nah, Lava just doesnt put out updates when steam reviews are mixed, he is waiting for recent reviews to be positive again.
You need to buy that to get the next one
You're telling me it doesn't rotate?
but, what IF, he released an update that was free of monetization and filled with content? that would certainly push the reviews to positive
ye okay buddy\
What is this 2023?
its actually the idleon monthly subscription update
"energy", each client click spends 1 energy
and you have to have the game open to get energy back
dumb choice of me to pick chippy instead of egg the last time i got offered
All the recent positive reviews are from low played hours and the negative ones have a shitload of played hours, lmao
I guess starting now its a lot easier with all the boosts, thats how people reach w7 and ask w3 questions
I disagree with the sentiment that "now its greedy". It was always like this. There isnt a natural measure of "below this much is ok" and "above this is greedy"
I am f2p and I am okay with the game
i mean idk, it feels like the game is more hostile towards of old players as of late
There is a difference between a 20$ pack every other update and a 105$ update
I only recently reached the whole w7 maps tho, but... thats the idlign part of the game
looking at you, tiny cogs
It’s mostly a solo game anyway, you won’t be affected by not spending unless you compare yourself to others here
I think both are outrageous of a f2p idle game
top players need to buy everything to stay in tome and tome nametags made it mandatory to try to stay relevent
its fine if you got fun out of idleon since release, but most of those packs are like insane increases that you simply cant overcome with f2p
many are pets, and tradable and "f2p friendly" but yeah. i wish there were more things to buy tbh haha
Clearly lot of people wanted "more thing sto buy" , thats why he added them
the game is live service with constant updates so I still think lava need to made some money but packs + pet mart is too much
this graph doesnt even take the spectacular pets into account btw
.1% must have 5 of every nametags by now time to let others get them cmon 
and also every new player needs to buy all the previous packs. he could easily stay afloat with the current number of packs and just the influx of new players providing the income
I still cant believe the amount of money gacha moves
I am so excited for more lab chip gamba later today
lmao
im done with that since last week luckily 😄
i wish for a real chip gamba, with 10 pulls and shiny s-rank animations. °q°
As much as I love my free movement speed and accuracy lab chips, I need some good ones
and a pity system for omegas xD
and you also need the pack to show up at random too
yeah the rotational shop is very toxic too lol. how to fomo
its like if your grocery store said "if you want fish next week you better buy it today"
bad example but
i dont eat fish
I still think a pack "bundle" would be good for the game economy like you can buy many packs at once and get a discount
exactly, hence why its a bad example
Too bad the shop only sell fish until next week
after all your piles are full in fountain, do you still have a chance to get a crown on piles without one and if so should I wait for full crown s or claim when all piles are full?
Dont worry. When Lava gets to the number 10 his surprise is that he will reveal that he's been investing all of the money you spent on packs in a roth IRA for you
that is a depressing fucking graphic holy shit. i knew it was a lot, but i didn't realize how much until now 
you can get crowns when full
This is usual fomo practice, at least packs are coming back, he could easily make packs only available for some time and never again
should I wait to claim at full crowns or claim when all are full?
My money back is at 50%
yeah seasonal rewards tend to work like that. very rarely returns. he should look into that lmao
i only have two .1% because every update adds 1000 points to tome and i can't reach it. it's depressing, i get halfway through .5% and then an update happens and i am 700+ points away again 
yeah it's starting to get to a point where I feel bad spending on the game and I love the game
at full crowns
thx
same, i quit buying at that point. got kinda sick feeling from buying, instead of the usual dopemine kick
the free movement speed that stops working the moment you use a speed pot 
only pack that didn't feel that bad was potluck it was the perfect balance
This was my fear for spectacular pets (not talking about valentslime and lucky slug since they are bad anyway) but he said every update won’t have a new one so they can come back
I wonder if somebody actually did the math of approximating the "true monetary value" of each stat
The 30% movement speed buff is SO DAMN GOOD even though I have 380k% speed on my DK. It's literally game changing.
I reached top 1% with him not updating tome for some weeks and I’m very happy about it 
The game doubled in "price" sicne the introduction of pet mart
no it's more like "if you want this wagyu steak stick your hand behind this curtain and pull something back. it is there, but so are other options, along with something you might be allergic to" (eg. doesn't work on you)
Also we might be selling waguy but buy our fishes first
And next week there is a new offer for double wagyu steak effect
i dont eat fish or wagyu
oh yeah the 3 pack solution, lmao. true true
wagyu with saffron. mhm
he'll show us his stock portfolio and we will be able to share in his happiness by imagining it is still our money behind the glass wall
gugugaga you only eat porridge anyway
we get it
I still think it'll be something like a one-off pet tournament with cash prizes as a pity gesture
probably against Steam tos something like that
yeah that may be true
Please no
Welcome to Pet tournaments.
pet turnament is +12 hour research and +1000 gold ball and some gems for me
amazing how far ive come without getting perfecto 50 nor 54
Basically. It's just research skip
bald
yeah, if we are talking about the same stretch of time i went from 20 points away from .5% again, to 250 points away from .1%, to now being 600 points away again. i have practically ran out of things to upgrade tome points on, as a lot of the ones that i can use to push are essentially time gated 
He did sell a lot of pet packs with tournament though
same, the research is a crazy good reason to sign up
But I agree. It’s just the daily research xp gain
I'm in the same boat. I don't see 600 pts anywhere to reasonably farm out. It's just minute adjustments
can't wait for next forbiden isle being 3x true multi for all monuments
yeah and you have to try the curtain portion, otherwise we won't put this wagyu out for sale in the market until sometime next year, but don't worry! you can still try and get it!
+1000 gold balls?
I like the new addition of the event super pet gamba. 75 tries to get it = 75 purchase requirement before you get it (at least for me lol)
yeah the event upgrade
I completely forgot this was even a thing
it's mid but it exist I guess
got me the fountain arcade tho
It’s hard to spend gold balls when twitch chat always votes the same things into arcade shop
They're also really good at getting dogshit ball bonuses
It’s tilting every time
Hard to spend balls when he doesnt rotate bonuses cuz hes mia
And chat is filled with 'username' + pet
I wish he would auto rotate shop in every week or two when not doing “weekly updates
Just give me a new shop every week on rng
Yep
weekly gemshop also, let us get draconic cauldrons, rupy slug and equinox penguins
I need equinox penguins fr
I wouldnt care if the bonuses werent timed to tome fwiw, such a bad mechanic
like make a limit per account so people don't get too juiced and it's good I guess
Tome? You mean the automated leaderboard mechanic that runs based purely on player stats and would never have any reason to require manual adjustments ever? Wouldn't even make sense to require manipulation!
FINALLY I GOT TO U
All because that darn penguin
where you guys at on bravery base dmg now?
You sure you want to know? 
yes

Nice. I'm only at 30M. What's your hours into it?
Fake endgamer, actually
This is more the reason behind it though
At least for the ceiling. I think floor is mostly bravery hours
Does the spelunking pow required to destroy the strongest object in a cave scale with the floor?
POW requirements are kind of clown numbers because they only apply to the first floor the object can spawn on (I think) and then there is also the upgrade that let's us do % more dmg to objects which goes on top of the POW
Spelunking mostly runs on vibes
What bonuses do you guys think we will get with the green water in the fountain excluding wisdom reward and probs rupie gain.
...did something roll back? Suddenly all my characters say away for 2.5 days and im afraid of what im about to log in to
bubba prolly
truuuu
Can happen if you use two devices
we get minau price reductions, wisom bonus buff, bubba, enchanct chance, mc drops, research xp
Or you werent on wifi when you cloudsaved, happened to me awhile ago
I do, but I make sure its closed before opening on another. I've had plenty of rollbacks on accident, but this spans 2 days so it seemed off
ahh ok i didnt know the calc listed them, those sound pretty good
Thats unfortunate, rip 2 days
Well. Crud.
I don't have much excitement about the minau one. It's gotta be pretty extraordinary to overcome the decay on those bonuses already
Nice
Where hours are you up to?
I really like the enchant chance from jar but it depends on how much we can push it.
I have a feeling it's going to be an incredible +5 practical total enchants or something lmao
But who knows maybe it'll be a 500X multi when marbled
That's beeg
I sure would like to go back but it is so hard to justify the use of AFK there these days
minau multi would have been hype tho
specced into minceraft, it isnt that bad imo
What do you afk?
- you can push for higher stands, which means tome score, so it's all good in the end
Depends on what my current goals are. Lately I've done a lot of spelunking scrolls into emergency div push while MCs have been on dragon. Now everyone switched to mob drops for glimbo. I always have stuff that's more important than standing at bravery
Yeah I can see it. I'm not keen on resetting my study collect though. Idk maybe if the silence goes on for another month lol
Is anyone at 1m hours for bravery and is it worth it ?
yes and no
Good to know, thanks
Why is it not worth it
yeah makes sense, I'm not sure either if I want to push it even higher
Cause it’s a lot of time and it’s far from a priority if you have other things to do
With my current monument afk it would take around 150 days
With all ten chars
It's also less important now to have huge bravery dmg when you only need to hit the mult once and can then let the event upgrade carry you
So the only amount you should be going for really is just 100k hours?
Bascially the whole deal around doing bravery hours in the past was all in service of getting better % to score a mult hit
You can get the multi with around 40k
It will take me around 1.5 days to get 24k hours with all ten chars so I might be able to squeeze a 50k hours in for bravery and then get justice and wisdom to 24k also before monument week ends
I got it once just before the new no monument left behind at like lvl 100, now I’m at 97% cap
I could have had a wisdom multi but I was clicking on the bonuses to fast 
This is the easiest to get anyway so not so bad
i got it at 112 10 days ago already at 82%
3k is 95%
Look at this person 
this is the damage of the highest person uploaded atm
thats extrastupid ngl
Some people just don't update IT 
I'll update soonish so hendo can rest easy
Just need to motivate myself to sample after the bravery run 
i already lost my rank 1's and 2's 
they lasted about 20 minutes lmao
Ok guys in prediction of next merit week I need to know : does bravery dmg bonus actually do something? Is bravery cooking bonus actually relevant?
Damage is Additive
Endgamers can't let hendo stay in rank 1 or 2 
and apparently all cooking speed sources are Multi, but there is probably better uses for your rewards
Cooking is supposedly not that bad since pretty much all cooking speed is multiplicative but I don't pick it much. Dmg for sure is smoll
What to pick then? Mining eff?
Always mining forever and ever
Pick multi 
ill probably do Mining->cooking->Bell->Afk
Multi is the only thing I picked over mining and these days that's not true anymore as well
Well sometimes I picked bell over mining as well but depends
I’ll probably pick multi if I have it once to almost reach cap but after that it won’t feel good anymore
Bell pretty rare but at the same time not amazing
People tend to sleep on buckets from bravery. It's really good if you have a strong bell
Ooooh i actually forgot about buckets tbf
probably will put bucket third then over bell
it should be fast
I tend to pick bell when I see it cause it’s rarer
gonna be a good merit for me
Slacking on eff 
You don’t wanna see mine 
I don't want to see mine 
remind me where do i farm golden kebabs?
yep, i apparently need to hard push AFK time claimed (yayyy candy usage
), hit at least one jackpot (preferably two) in arcade, continue the endless alchemy bubble push, defeat more mine head opponents, more endless summoning
, and some others.
I might need to do some bucket levels 
W6 collo
more bucket would be nice for this

Slacking on eff 
You don’t have 1M bubble lvl yet?
slacking on multi 
Eff
Multi 
Afk 
after Merit is over if you dont get multi, just do a couple low multi runs a day
Yeah I used to as well but tbh I don't think that it does enough. Like when I compare my bell speed with others I always get dumpstered by levels on the jar collects
I did monuments 2 days ago this week
I only have 36x multi now 
let the alchemy shop actually allow you to buy things in game, half the damn shelves are empty
i did 1.2x runs a couple times a day till i got my bravery multi
i do on some, but not all
true but I don't see what could be added
I was doing that but stoped when I see monuments merit 
My point was tome score is capped at 1M global bubble lvl
well things that SHOULD be in there, aren't, because they are in the gem shop.
we need a new source of Dense water...just so i can never have to buy it again
Just so can never have to buy 
So I can gstack it 
i HATE how hard it is capped. half the mobs should drop regular water as a drop in w3, the other half should drop dense water. change my mind
Do you use it somewhere now? I feel like it’s been forever since I last used one
its not really used but whenever you do you gotta buy it from the store for whatever reason
dense water generator: gives +1 dense water each day and has a scaling liquid4 cost
you don't but I hate to have to wait a day when I need to do some tools/armor
like if i'm doing godshard tools for a dr build
we've reached a point that he should split armor recipe paths again
early game armors, mid game armors, late game armors
The w7 armor shouldve been a inst craft without needing previous armor
what would be the new starting point? marbi?
same thing with weapons and tools
NSLB hitting mason jar was nice
w1-3, w4-5, then w6+
how much mantaray pet costs?
20$?
i feel like boss armor should always be a split path/deadend path
exactly how the stupid world recipe tabs are set up at present lol
tbh it would have felt bad to have to recraft godshard to w7 gear
we could agree on that, except he has decided to make some boss armors more important and require them for the next set
I want to be able to spam w7 armor until it has a additional slot
holy +1% afk gain
Huge
Weapon is nice to craft +1 ig
i'd be fine with crafting marbi and up to w7 armor, as that seems resonable. what isn't is going down to TROLL in w4 to craft end game armors, as well as needing 8 fucking cooking clogs to make troll shoes again. you have to unfilter it, then kill one mob and drop 60 fucking pairs of shoes
i told him to run, get out while he still can
]i just want the last artifact....plz
what dies this do?
do any of yall have a build for M6 in sneaking?
More burger
yummy
Cant wait to use my level 7 greatest story ever told legend talent
Everyone yellow belts to stack flowers except 1 guy yellow belt taunting mark, then everyone running lotus except 1 guy running rosary and silkveil, and the other yellow belt taunting mark
use the first one to until you are at a decent amount of flowers then swap to full lotus and break the door and repeat
I'm just doing everyone yellow/lotus and one rosray/beads with bubchaku and pray
too much text
is that better then red thing
is taunting mark good?
You still want taunting mark, but instead of everyone running 1 lotus 1 belt you go double belt and then double lotus
fuck I don't want to go down a mastery
How many flowers you at?
that require so much inv space and efforts 
ignore the hats im farming exp atm
Is their any way to like delete a low tier sushi?
no
Mobile
then no
I'm on floor 4 managed to break the dooar at around 10k-30 each
give t7 slot 
double yellow belts i get about 25k-30k flowers a day
guess what percentage i got it with

took me like a day and a half i think
i got pretty lucky
i saw a guy the other day posting all levle 3 character slots with first 2 at level 4...like wtf
Zenith upgrade
dr
when T7 character slots
i got all chr slot to silver
legend talents too
still at m4 farming more symbol 
C'mon 5% door 
What floor you on?
ez gg no re 
./mastery
lower mastery gives more symbols?
no
probably just at 0%
any mastry at 0% detection rate

apparently i get almost 2,000 flowers an hour which sounds about right?
How do you get Bubba candies?
events i think
Last door for m7 looks like ~3 days of build-up to break down 
How many flowers did last floor take you?
Well why does the guide require an unobtainable item? That's dumb
from what I've heard - 30k a days normal so you're above normal
because when an event comes around you can usually get 100+
require? 
yeah it mentions using the candies alot
It just speed things up
Basically
theres a difference between requiring something and explaining when/how to use it 
oh - a new guide 
How do you go so fast? Mine is at like 2k and an action happens every 30 secs
make sure to leave the UI open constantly
... active sneaking? Seriously?
I mean.. its something in quick ref that can be left open while doing other stuff
But, I'm trying to get symbols, what's the best place to get em?
at least you can do active fountain while you do active sneaking lol
Yeah, you're right. Weird its taboo
Double yellow belts on everyone and leave sneaking open while at fountain
I'm trying to get my DW on frogs rn
You can go double?
Could've broke the door at 125k but 🤷♂️
didnt know people used the red thingy
Any floor on any mastery where you have 0% detect or close to it. Symbols will only drop after daily reset and you get around 10 average before they stop for the day
How does auto on spelunking determine when to use the orange amber boost elixir? Is there a more optimal time?
You can use symbols in the equip area?
so yes 95%?cus thats 2.2m flowers for me lmao
Plus, I'm just using this guide
It seems like you guys are missing something somewhere. I got through to M8 at like 10k or less funeral flowers
fair that defintely works
m8?!?!
I'm on m8 yes
lmao no not even close
Whats your stealth on the ground floor?
Lucky dog
Last two floors took quite a while for me before I rolled the hit
Floor 1 on my pusher? With veil and rosary you mean?
he was saying 95% so id assume theyre more referring to farming items then pushing doors
like the safe floor without any flowers and yeah on your pusher
lemme see
tbf you didnt have a sneaking multi pet when pushing 
this is what im at
1.08e50
True 
There is a mult pet?
Lots of inflated bonus from grinding upgrades, but technically a roadmap for m7 lol
theres always a pet multi
Its probably the WW buff im missing out on
you got big statue?
13k+ item levels 
can probably get that up a bit
Im m6 without so whats the point
Bigger = better
hmm thats a first
well you're m6 and theyre m8.. so thats the point 
Tbf M8 does nothing beyond more skill levels for now. Farming for jade there takes ages to prep
so close, yet so far away
high mastery poopy anyway no mastery bonus lazy laba
cant go wrong with some more bravery damage
Can I join this chat now
no
Okei
What kind of items do you guys keep while pushing? Like 16 lotus flowers, 1 taunt, 1 scroll, 1 nunchuck, 1 beads and 1 scarf?
Do you guys use yellow belts to stack death or do you still just use lotus while doing so?
Whaddya mean, no point? 
haha yeah there's no bonus yet
have never used taunt personally, but 1 set for a door dude then belts/rose
2xYellowbelt flower farming
lava 
Double yellow to stack flowers on all
double lotus to push on all
1 with rosary and veil
1 with taunt and yellow belt
what does stacking flwoers mean? is it the deaths?
there are some bonuses that i want to level more.... but i don't want to spend points because then i'll fucking need them 
Where can i candy stealth statues?
I just use this 24/7 
i forgor

check ur cards
i lazy
no u hendo
W6 leeks is best base drop.
Whats the cost with discount in your highest slot?
idk what you're asking me lmao
the highest symbol boost
ehh not the worst ig
oh fugg, I forgot about research
How long till meritocracy? 1 day?
do you not use 1 character with the jade scroll and do you guys your windwalker as your pusher?
im sure pushing my second slto more would help - but dont think it would do much overall
put the jade scroll on whatever character your tryna level then take it off again when pushing/stacking
Should I also save 2 black belts to lvl up my pusher on bottom floor everytime I mastery?
i will push sneaking after my class xp gets juiced from justice merit trust
Black belts are nice tbf
btw is there any reason you don't have gloves on the bottom characters on 2nd pic?
lame
like a meta reason? no - just lazy lmao
ok this is pretty expensive to level rip
thx for the help, I've been confused over what to do with sneaking after I got to m6 and I couldnt progress after the first few floors
yea the w6 ones take a bit
I dont really follow stuff to a t for sneaking, never farmed a black belt for xp, taunt for whatever reason its there, ect
its probably this thats gonna make the biggest difference tbh
whats your stealth atm? whats the goal 
the goal is more
what's your dust multi
i havent put the attire on yet
Lazy, eh? You want me to hurt your feelings or something? 
whats your stealth on base floor no lotus 
oh im stupid af
Damnn
wait do you mean no lotus or no flowers?
did you know AoDcthulu is one of the top players in the game
well its.. base floor so theres no flower multi lol
search any random leaderboard and youll see his name pop up, it's pretty crazy tbh
i'm so tired of one clicking 
Everyone on double yellow belt its this
:o
oh so its not even bad 
are you leveling your toon slots?
Just started that
will help a lot
Then that makes me a near-best player. And I'm 95% certain my account is a raging dumpster fire 
kinda sucks that the animation is just a tad bit annoyingly slow 
a tad? brother he gave us fast animations for log game in gaming, then made this shit 
nah he trash
true
31 is top player material 
im only on like 15 top 10s, im kinda slackin 
ill upload again when im back in 0.5, permanent shame
every single round take 3 seconds to load it feels like, then the animations of you dying..
I would like to meet the gentleman with 3.23m Post Office orders completed and ask him if he is ok
hey when i drop my 1m golden food for the quest, do i lose it?
is there even this much time in the idleon-verse 
idk theres been a lot of cheese for those, so you probably wont hear a fun answer
such a huge gap
no hes cheating, dont even have to look lol
that top guy is cheating lmao, look how many gems he has
wwhere do u see this leaderboard
wow, very cool
banned
finally
lightwork
You know the worst thing, there's probably some cheater people out there that are smart enough to not give themselves 25M gems 
but they'd give themselves 3k gems easy
he cheated in reset potions
guess i need to update lol the leaderboards say i don't exist 
is there a way to see the last time you uplaoded 🤔
yes
ill check for ryou
click on your leaderboard profile look in the top right
Hax or he's the reason Lava just quit after the last update and is on a retirement cruise ship.
they wont load for me: /
balls
well clearly not enough! green stack is 9.74m away!
Nope, sucks
If you convert a reset potion every 2 seconds you could gstack reset potions by january 2029. Not bad.
lightwork
Reps for jesus moment 
im sure thats a good placement for a trap 
you almost got me excited thinking my WW could be in w7 in dust mode. silly me

@mortal trellis soon this round of suffering will end.... so i can continue again
where are you updatessss why cant I find you..... why have you gone awayyyyy
That level 200 bolaia nightmare equinox suuucks
ah i was using a different sheet
Kinda been wingin it since +200 time
what do?
bonus skulls
pearls
Those skulls are lacking man wth
well the note i have of when i looked into what to do said to get 250 timer i stopped at 200 and started equally investing in skulls and respawn
Respawn aint that needed
and it didnt specify ratio on skulls and respawn
Can you reset research points or are they locked when you putted out a point?
so just purely bonus skulls for a bit then? Do I actually want to hit 250 timer at some point?
What is this dog crap
matty bag stamp hit

Beginner on quenchie 2 weeks in a row feels like abuse
OH and a multitool stamp hit i didn't notice 
I...should do that
you get to a point where you just can't do that lol
I think mine is sub level 100
Is it worth exalting?
It's an S-tier exalt
why did my construction rate go down by 30q in the last 5 days
i havent changed anything
i believe the ballot just changed from construction build speed?
not sure
yesterday it was like 80q or more
are you checking on the same character?
why does that matter brah
i just checked on db and dk and its different
it does matter yteah
you snapshot on your current char, and active one get less stuff
does this do anything currently or is it for a future mechanic
AI fruit took over my job
I guess I will need to use a few candies to get some 4rd tachyons
anyone understand how blue slots in sushi station works? i have 6 with tier 44 and the rest are tier 32 und the dont have more xp since 2 days ago
how can i increase the max tier sushi east wind upgrades?
get a higher top sushi
how far are yall pushing fountain?
ive got the 2 speeds to 4.5x,
everything else to 4.0x, monuments at 3.5x
and might leave it there and stop idleing at it
ohh bet
can some1 send me the spread shit xD
You're doing way more than i did
nice
i just rushed to 3* then used cardifier
im out of 5's to use for my guardians and my mantarays only at bronze star
Is the Sushi upgrade 'Quickpay' which gives minutes of bucks when creating sushi bugged? I am not sure what, if any, effect it has
sproutluck IV, snapegrass, or more Stalk Value II?
Absolutely insufferable activity. Worse than trying to actually play the minehead game.
geneology is pretty shite, right? most of the additive ones are, yeah?
IMO:
Stalk > Legumioso > Double petal (but i'm not focusing crop evo yet)
ehhh at least it is just playing minehead, and not "get to minehead boss 25" or some shit
You shouldent push this you should do it pasivly
i'm pushing the insufferable new crops, so crop evo is highly regarded once again lol
Hey hey! Yknow this highly unlikely to happen activity? That you have limited lives to try and achieve?
Do it 500 times!
Mostly going to need them all at 50% or better to get to 330. But if you don't want to push it past 50% you can subsist on Crop Evo GMO to get to 330
fair, my strategy is trying to get everything that gets me more exotic levels higher so i can push more crop evo exotics higher/faster later
unlikely to happen? have you played minehead? if i didn't have the blocker sometimes i'd get 6 mines added per attempt
honestly if i hadnt started mineheaed before that came out i would have kept the grid small and just spent a couple days getting that
You can just force it. Just click one square, click battle, click one square, etc.
If you don't plan on beating that minehead boss for a while you can just do that for 30+ per day
it can be engineered for a guaranteed +6 each run, but with 7 tries per day and about an hour for those 7 tries... that's about 12 hours of grinding it.
Way more to do it naturally.
yeah not getting newly released content on purpose sometimes might benefit you in the future. but often times with lava he nerfs shit into the ground after he releases it because it was stronger than he invisioned. so it is better to rush new content usually lol
Im at Maizehead on depth charge, the one with 2.8 mil hp, how much damage do i need before i start trying to kill it?
And is it bad that i have 600 minehead currency per hour
you are hard handicapping yourself with that amount of currency per hour
gonna have to up that
Fwiw. I expect to get 330 after exotic reset. So here's about where I think it'll take.
Do i need the research grid upgrsdes for that? I barely have any of the minehead ones
i feel like progress is dreadfully slow and i have 291,565/hr
Ive been mainly upgrading my research xp stuff like the level multiplier since i kinda put them off and im getting close to 50 research
just noticed this, time to save for days then
there’s only so many ways to increase it. Lowkey research gated if you want the other upgrades
43.3M coming right up boss
that is true
if he dosen't have the pet that gives the 10 research points he is somewhat cooked
- the mine pet
I am entirely f2p other than autoloot :)
you know what what's your username?
YesManEEE first character
come to cookie 3 w1 town
Why doesn’t Anyone just spend 100k on gems then you can greenstack them the legit way 
is research the only way to up minehead currency?
you get them on your account not as item sadly
Is it bugged? Because the slots remained the same as before (two blue bars). The client was rebooted.
Oh yeah oof
The marble bottleneck is real 
Finally, i get to pretend im a p2w with my first non event exclusive
Anyone else who has an issue where items in the 6th inventory tab cannot be moved out of there, including to storage?
Also 20X SPELUNKING POW FROM THAT PET GODDAMN
i had that bug i fixed it by dragging on my food slot if i remember correctly?
I might actually be able to do the newest cavern soon
also did you get the friend bonus?
Yep
Damn, sounds very balanced
Im guessing theyre maxed, didnt know they had a limit but makes sense after people started getting over 1.5k levels on a single guy
This is a bug where you had a locked slot in the final slot when new inventory bags were added.
The new slots are considered locked but do not appear that way. just toggle the lock and it's fixed
if you are curious about the paid pet bonus
also anyone here that needs a sheepie got 5 of them
Wow. Im fucked
I like pets because it makes it easier to see what bonuses you have from bundles etc
I dont like pets because it makes it easier to see what bonuses I dont have, definitely more fomo inducing
This is why i still beg for pets every once in a while, im just completely screwed unless i suddenly become a trillionare or the mr beast of idleon gives me every pet in the game
Nice, I got 5 perfectos today!
From Clamwork. This is Podium tier, right?
any t50/t54?
If you can get a glunko, i will trade you everything else
At least i can still do stuff like sushi station without being significantly weaker
Nah, havent gotten that far yet, im currently setting up for 32
You can still do half decently well without all the exclusives so try not to let it get to you too much, just give up on any dreams of 0.1 and 0.5% nametags
I still have the candle for the nametags
hey what the best friends stats i can only have 4 and someone can give me strong stats :c
soon™
Its probably never happening but its begter than selling my liver to buy packs
u can still see spectacular pets 
if you play long enough and are active enough in discord, you'll probably find generous people doing giveaways and accumulate pets that way. i haven't spent any money besides autoloot and have a decent collection
1% seems possible being mostly f2p with few pets, although whenever I get close lava updates the numbers
Just gotta keep checking this discord every once in a while and pray that mr beast shows up
oh it got fixed 
im still chasing 5% 
i am still in 5% 
I liked it better when the tome requirements updated very slowly
send help
I hit 10% after over a year, then they started updating the tome points very often and im stuck in 25% purgatory
oh i am just a little above
I think i have 15 or 20k 