#endgame-chat-w7๐
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funny 
the left on top of orange is a multiplier and the 2 on the right on top of the orange are helpful towards observations, not top tier prio but very good
what, like he did with the world 2 ballot? lmfao no chance

takin notes is pure trash before you get a lens is why i've avoided that one
Oh great. Nugget week
you are doing it so incredibly wrong.
you really should load up the optimizer
afk is a 100% multiplier i dont play actively
so what? you have completely cut off the main source of research xp.
Takin notes is a research multi what
"trash"

takin notes is a reaserch multi that actively sets you behind unless its scoped
i spammed this but something else popped up only for a brief moment???
and afk isnt a multiplier. lol wtf you on about
you waste a point to gain nothing
is he ragebaiting?
I'm sorry how exactly
a multiplier is a multiplier
sure bud. Your research board shows how far behind you are.
for me it's effectivley a multiplier
noooooooooooo
i literally got to w7 a month ago and dont play actively XD
insight is trash?
nugget week is upon us
How is dude lightyears behind telling everyone they don't understand how it works
No shit my reaserch boards behind.
I time travel at a rate of 1 second per second that's a multiplier
you sure are confident for someone who is so wrong
guarantee they're thinking of some other node
or at least I hope so
it's literally always good
because it's a unique multiplier
no
yes
bait used to be believable
Are you really arguing with ppl who are 70+ and most are probably at 72 already when you're that low in research`?
yes
Could anyone direct me to the updated picture with required scrolls for these other unlocks ๐
leveling insight is THE most important research xp metric lol
ok good luck
because taking notes is a true multiplier that only multies the amount the actual level reqs go up by the time you have them all
unrelated but how's my board looking, anything to prioritise next? (level 64)
you are running on a treadmill taking it early unless your rushing lenses instead of mechanics
56% is better than 1.12x if you have 0%
you're on the same treadmill but standing still
good luck
do you not understand that more monocles lets you get more xp which gets you more levels, which gets you more points?
im not im literally level per day pace rn not playing XD
what the HELL is this guy talking about
i used ot be super slow before i had the other stuff
he doesnt even know lol
4 points for something that costed me 2 and gave a mechanic XD
or less than what 2 points gave me
you're doing great, only thing I would get is attire bonuses if you're using alot of attire but otherwise you've more or less got everything that you need, just some more lvls in things youve already unlocked
can you explain what the 2 and mechanic is
brothr might just be chattin shit fr ๐ญ
im working i cant type normal stuff. gotta unplug my keyboard and plug it back here each time
I haven't gotten the dr robe nah
only one I have is the deathbringer one, just how the packs lined up lol
if I do decide to get it that node becomes priority ofc
but cheers much, I'll continue on that path, maybe a third set of legend talent caps next
therefore, only got a mouse โค๏ธ
just confirming, nothing new again this last weekend, right
I'm trying to understand what gives you more research value than a 60% boost to research exp
im talm bout cca
probably the node youll get most use out of atm would be nightmare if you havent already maxed out the research upgrade as far as you realistically can get it
oh and just to confirm the 2 nodes that give afk are both 1% per level right? (and therefore not worth)
yeah I've only got 20 levels in that lol def equinox rate then
is basically a 1 per day thing for me atm
I wouldnt buy the afk upgrades tbh since I play actively alot but if you're a phone player maybe theyre worth it if you've already got all the other research exp nodes since I think it actually is possible to get 100% if you spend gems and pets I think
I havent bought a single upgrade for afk research gains that I know of atleast in gem shop or on resaerch nodes and I'm at 69% afk gains on research so I think it's possible to get 100%
nah I play on pc
This is "multipliers aren't that good" conversation pt. 2 and I am LOVING it
the biggest afk source I'm missing is riptide since someone was nice enough to trade me smth for a rift stalker, that was a huge help
oh wait is it really 40% from all the gem shop purchases? Than it is easy to get 100% afk gains
oh my god it is
that last one was really dire though
20 isn't it
oh yeah it is
2*10
A true multi all the way up to 1x
riptide would put me at 70 and it's entirely possible and even very likely more free sources will come
XD I"m not going to not get it
the top one on the research board gives 1% and bottom one gives 5% per lvl right?
im at like 75% wasted some gems on the shop lol
I wish I could get someone to get me rift stalker 
if one of them gives 5% per that would probably be worth my points tbh
tbf I did trade the new meal bonus pet for it
worth
oh my
I always thought they were both 1% a level
I eventually settled for trading my vanillie for baby troll since no one would trade for much

yeah no it's good early if you aint a whale.
persistence and luck really
I am working on my weekly laboratory chip gamba regret before update or event because now I don't have enough gems skill
so I've got 69% right now and I can get 20% from gem shop, 12% from board so if I really wanted to I could get 100%
i wish lava was real
I just wouldn't see value from it for a bit lol
have been farming out worker class 8 for equinox when that nightmare arrives
oh yeah for ppl playing on pc actively it's not worth it whatsoever, it's hella expensive in gems and 4 research points are worth alot more than 12% afk gains
is class 4 anything interesting that's where I'm at
oh wtf what even is base reaserch afk i can't get a consensus from the internet
my gambas have been so shit
yet to get the 2nd card doubler
2 points is worth 10% though, I'd say
I'm still offline plenty of time
daresay it's better than the equinox node in raw value atm for me
cheers much for that little revelation
god only knows
wouldn't surprise me if it was 1% tbh
I've got 3 full sets now but hot damn is it expensive.
@fair tusk yeah i only had 3% before that apparently
my points are fully going towards boosts rn
Which got it wasn't just a 2x for 2 points at that point
i just want to farm gems on the 11th character
it was like a 4x.
I started at like, somewhere around 8-12% but that was because of the placeholder bonuses that got added with the research update
artifact and gambit and such
yeah not to gambit yet and last island is pretty unapproachable
That's going to go so hard. As soon as your characters spawns in gems will rain from the various shared skills
gonna get my button bonuses big
watching the sneaking + construction level up will take like 4 minutes
another souce of 2000+ constructions levels yummy yummy
Guys, where should i go first? Wiki is outdated. Where is Button and another NPCs?
button is last map to the bottom path
so am i allowed an apology now or what?
Plus farming, breeding, lab and div
Oh =\
to us?
no

to me because you clearly didn't even know what my actual situation was
but chose to pop off. XD
button is at the very far end of the normal progress path
really the answer is "go everywhere and do everything in previous worlds to boost damage"
There is nothing on the top?
it turned out it was even better of a decision than i realized initially because i assumed everyone started at 6
id say you need to 1) unlock glimbo on pirate ship map
2) go top path and unlock both paths - one is meritocracy voting rights, the other is coral cave - where you get one of the best nametags in the game
...?
research afk gains is not a good use of points, sorry
you may not have the dmg tho so work on that
Sorry i like a dollar raise over a 5% raise if i'm earning minimum wage
research does not benefit from the afk gains rate that other skills do
In my mind 1.8x your gains is better than going from 60% afk to 90% afk because that is effectively 1.5x if you're full afk. Not sure what you're on about
no shit sherlock that's why its so bad if your new to w7 and didnt have a bunch of w6 stuff done
you're still wrong about afk rate being better than an exp multi
AT CURRENT STAGE means nothing to you huh
literally nobody has told you that research afk gains is worth buying for you right?
should i get more upgrades or go for the worker class
XP multi impacts afk. Because it's an always multi. I don't get the argument.
at current stage the exp multi would be better
i mean people can tell you 2+2=5 on the streets now
like you're telling yourself you're right?
why i dont' play actively
I think it depends how much whale stuff you have (specifically the research related pets)
for me it's effectively a 25% boost for 2 points, which puts it on par with that one research exp mult (yes I maxed that forever ago)
it also affects minehead and sushi so there's that
plus whatever third thing will arrive that there's clearly room for on the quick select
this thing
i'd prioritize r.afk if you have below 20%
yeah but the nodes are research afk gains
research afk does not benefit from any other afk multis
much so if ur not a 24/7 player
we aren't talking about other afk mults?
pretty sure we aren't anyway
so you're just buying up to 100%
trying to explain why afk upgrades are less impactful for research
this is the basics of mainsplaiing
over explain pointless things while refusing to neglect the hard evidence in front of you
yeah because I'm a man, you got it
Just git gud and have the multi and 100% afk so we can all move on. Next question
gang
yeah but this whole convo is about research afk
blow your shit smooth off
y'know in a courtroom when the laywer who's arguing in your favour tells you to be quiet
again. trying to explain why afk upgrades are less impactful for research. in the context of the conversation. not for no reason
it started about a research multiplier is better than research afk %, then I ignored him when he started going weird and I continued talking to jakey about research afk, idk where angel took his convo
see this isn't a court this is people who decided to be dicks. And the best thing i can do is psis them all off worse.
HOLY unbelievably based.
yeah because research afk is its own thing we all know this
but we're talking about the relative value of the research node that gives 5% research afk per level
i'd say its decent if:
- not a 24/7 player
- not owning riptide and stalker
closing the game is a skill issue tbh lets be real here
I went to school for research. I failed out but I got my honorary doctorate in a pdf from idleon academy dot com
I was saying this in the case that this person was under the impression that research afk did not work like this and that's why they were so adamant buying afk rate was better than a 60% total mult
being mean back on purpose just makes things worse
I agree 100% that's what I said above too
you are a failure /lh

also I was never trying to be mean and in fact tried to understand where you were coming from but just got ignored so
here
Wait you guys are allowed to close the game?
im a 3rd world individual so yes
Anyways I also realized i'm in lens range. So running on the treadmill may actually be good for my health so thanks for indirectly giving me that device i guess.
For some reason in stupid brain it didn't click how close i was.
idk they never gave that impression
I think (and this is an assumption based on the convo)
that they have really low afk% (like single digits) and that they aren't actively playing often, in which case the 5% is a bigger multiplier to their research gains
however the real answer is to just get both nodes tbh lol
covering the bases of what benefits you get is key to understanding where the disconnect is so that's why I brought it up
like they'll still need to focus up research exp now or fall behind the level curve
i didnt see alot of kaleidos earlier either. might focus on those too
yeah, just getting Kaleidoscopes, that one research exp mult and a couple monocles with game design 101 and 102 should suffice them for now
what i think could work in order:
kaleidos > monocles > game design
agreed
monocles arent really needed this early
nice to get a start on them tho
yeah youll outlvl the observations faster than they lvl insight
only need to grab 1 or 2 monocles but Kscopes are always worth getting and maxing
monocles matter more when progress starts slowing down
as you get to the end of 2nd row, starting on third row, there is the sweet spot to start heavily into insight I think
i def need a second kaleido but am not sure how much farther i can even progress in reaserch since hard stuck in w7
research, it do be waiting game
research is basically only buffs from research and pets right? so why would hard stuck in w7 stop you from research
tbf... a particular shrine is big for research
access to the observations
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early observations arent in w7 I think? maybe up to goldfish and demonbub maybe but not further than that
research is a very long term slow burn kind of skill so don't worry about it too much for now
you can follow the node advice while it trundles away in the background and you actively work on previous world stuff so you can tackle w7
1.5e39 damage
say in spelunking you are going for all the upgrades of a scroll. What amount of scrolls do you use for the best level gains? (For the first 3 scrolls if that matters)
there's a couple but it's things like the shop and the first spelunking skill cave
all the others are previous worlds yeah
pins
brah
as a general rule, you can just use your daily income divided into 8 stacks
Whats the best way to find observations?
Ok thanks, thats what I wanted to know
with your eyes and brain
the riddles are cute and really not that hard
tbh it's so hard to even like think of where to get started in some of the older mechanics like equinox and gear because also all my dudes have to get spelunking levels ect type stuff
the riddles barely felt like riddles. no actual substance on these words
it's so much harder to do old world stuff after new world comes out
Is that on a non archer?
use this
Your pages per hour times 24 for daily, divided by your daily reads which for most is 8, and then closest lvl threshold
you don't have to force spelunking
and tbh you really can't until you get the third exp cave which needs a lot of damage etc for map progress
you'll see much better gains going back and focusing previous mechanics
if your closest threshold is slightly higher than your amount then just put another character in the cave for a few hours every few days
or, to put it another way, you can't build up w7 stuff without a good foundation from previous worlds
spelunking caves are funny
5th cave has a much easier access in map but also needs alot of eff
shouldnt be a big issue if you actually do daily reads... but weird nonetheless
5th cave should probably have been inside the ship
lmao that makes 6th sorta easier
These numbers feel illegal for a single character full-auto run
were you pushing for max depth?
item run im guessing
Just harvesting lanterns and Juice.
Why do I see people having this much stuff with on char did something happen to drop rate?
i feel pebblecave has always been the best for items?
I am going to gstack snail mail before lvl 50 is fixed 
it's just having more amber to upgrade the chance
Yeah pebble does feel good for items
50 working as intended until snail 100
this too
you need to hit efficiency to level on cave 6
amber pow gains have diminished severely
and its smooth sailing from there
Yeah cave 6 is goated for stamina
cus you level to 250 quickly then can push for 350+
I need pow more tbh
if you have them all already
I imagine most do not
And then you get amber and pow multi from it
yeah you kind of need more pow and stam to grind on glitterend
you need to level on cave 6
i'd guess you're still farming ambers on chucklemire
thats efficiency not pow
5 is still better for leveling so I might need to cave 1 jail everyone 
just leave 1 on cave 1
i just meant to hit more pow for glitter
for some reason i thought getting my bubo to 100 mining was an incredible use of my candies
Cave 1 and 2 are both great for efficiency. I still use em
does the biggest haul upgrade in spelunking accually do something? (SUPER SUPER EARLY)
ya I need pow to clear stuff moreso
but for that I need efficiency pumped more now
Biggest haul, furthest depth are both eclipsed by the bonuses you get from total spelunking levels which is why spelunking levels are so important
yeah
it still helps
cave 1 daily reads are good. just send vman there and you're all good for page stocks
what does it do?
the rest can go farm xp
reading the card explains the card
but it doesnt have a bonus?
its the pages, not the card, that are really helpful
is it better to spam click jars for enchantments or let them accumulate
i also got the endless multiplier stacking
so that's gonna help when i do decided to start
ignoring the fact that there are many many more upgrades behind it this unlocks the instant you get it
How long should I keep reading from first cave?
ts all I got
Until the heat death of the universe. That bonus is base skill and it's linear
I have that as well
good to full ignore spelunk
?
Youre good to go work on cave 2 a bit, then after that id put a bit into cave 3/4 then back to 1/2 to push eff for better page rates to do 5/6
Ok 1 person got sarcasm and then 0 did
back to 1
currently doing a few days of cave 5 to unlock all the bonuses and then going to unlock all bonuses downwards and then I'll park at cave 2 for awhile
if only it wasn't masterclass week 
Even if its sarcasm ima still
react it
again
I get it. You're a spelunking Chad. I respect it
you can get away with not gaining db candies i reckon :v
Its not even the good mc week
this takes forever. i can roll the dice about once every 20 hours. i think its worth it to just gamble at this point
the best part about cooking is that it's a good benchmark skill at least
if youve got the 5k+ afk items from last mc week then you're good to go for all masterclasses, maybe a bit behind on maxing AC but still good
all my toons are lvl 50 besides my db
so if a skill is lower than 50 i know somethings wrong
gamble it man im doing the same
you just missed cooking exp ballot, couldve lvld up them all to atleast 100 with balloons
you should upgrade more so you get the chance for promotion more frequently. 20 hours is wild
true actually I hit the end of grimoire
did you max tome/crop scientist? lol
inb4 he has like 100 points there 
which currency is moolah in the fountain :?
My only toon that isnt lvl 1600+ is my perma spelunking vman
not implemented yet
lets go 1:1
next water color
doesn't exist atm
I want to work on those gstacks after mc afk week
how u doin bun
was debating that. i have 1:18 chance r`ight now. if i spend 1000b on skills instead, i get about a 6% increase in pearls. so i miss the chance to win the first time, but after ~18 rolls I am back at the same spot. ie 18 rolls just gambing happens in about the same time as 1 roll of upgrades and 18 rolls of gambling.
Itll be on green water upgrade page when it comes out
good
burh i didn't think about how ballloons will interact differently with cooking
bless you
this is ass 
At least you have 9darterโฆ
ah ffs i keep forgetting about clankerworks
ive gotten it within like 2 months of game time XD
Yeah i haven't messed with final worker class. It's turrible. And it's class xp

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Best ive gotten was 7darts
yeah im not doing the next one i just want that juicy gallery multi
I have not even looked at darts once since I hit 9
You should for the vault discount
the vault discount is decent
I know but I can't. Too much trauma
i choked on first time i got to 7 but the first time i got to 8 i got it just keep grinding you got this
ive given up on baller and megalodon
Darts is great and lots of fun if you want a fist-sized hole in your monitor
darts not as bad as depth charge lets be real here
darts was fun when i got the trophy but never other than that
oh of course you have the trophy. damned yabbit
is there a w7 worship guide
there is in the masterguide in tips and tricks
pancakex guides on ctrl f
Ive been way less angry and emotionally invested in minehead since the 500 req for equinox showed up
yes im the king fr
Search: From: Pancakex. Guide
Mainly because failing is finally a good thing
I aint even rushing the 500 im at like 102
i have not looked at darts since i got onyx speedy statue
I am failing forward as quickly as possible
the zooms it could give me are irrelevant now
Then youll go back to hating minehead again tho
CC just dropping the most random cryptic shit. I fk with it
vault cheapener
i Got No Clue what are you on about
All things are eventual
Max move speed aint even fast cc
Are glow fish in the game yet?
no your just showing your idleon boomers
darts were a giga good source of speed
but onyx statue is infinitely better
Nah you dont need much speed especially with quickslap nerfed to oblivion
Speed is just straight ass
Anyone please
Max move speed is like 900%
3% speed i get from darts
300% on visual i think
i was at 25% i think when i got onyx
Ah wasnt sure which i think ive heard both? Maybe 900% for afk gains idk
oh afk gains hmm
me on โฟ is already faster
well yeah thats 2 weeks of darts only
Yeah i been slacking too
Thereโs always one thing people slack on
but yeah up until the new vault everything was affordable like really really affordable
it gets bad
needs a slacker to know one
frfr
slacking?
Whatโs considered endgame nowadays?
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it took me awhile to get that trophy ๐
Bro does more darts than he smokes
if #endgame-gen-chat doesnt tell you to get out ur good, go try
Too intimidating
shame, i cant bait today
I mean thats a pretty low bar ive seen some w2 mfs not get kicked out
Theyre lonely in there nowadays
hard focus 1 mechanic and show it when someone in endgame chat mentions it and nothing else
... i thought they were the mega elitist fucks? i thought they'd kick you out if you dont have 0.5% tome
youll be good
LMAO
yeah true theres like 6 ppl that actually talk in there
As long as you dont act like youre endgame in the chat they wont bother ya
oh well there goes the meme impression
the first t20 ribbon goes on yumi (gold foods) yeah?
In the lastn3 days ive hit 8 darts twice and failed. Im sooooo dead
cool
double cool
I feel like threatening my crystal cogs by turning on trash cogs before making them works well
were you given extra times on tests?
I was usually one of the first 2 people done tests tbh
you know what feels really bad
i started a sharpshooter.. this is the first time that class has been useful since i started
Except my physics 12 that teacher was a nightmare. She bragged about 40% of her class failing
she's speeding up forge currently.
worse cogs after buying the better chance in research mhm
finaly
where is glimbo?
Glimbo is a myth. He lives in our hearts
at mastery 6 sneaking, should I swap over to all lotus flwoers and then 1 character with double yellow belt or keep using 2 characters with lotus flowers and the rest with beads and scarfs?
even first floor on mastery 6 is 100% discovery rate atm for me with beads and scarf and I only get doors if I keep stacking the deaths and get lucky
you keep game open with taunting mark on someone and up the flowers with double belts
I havent done the double yellow belt method once ever and I'm on m8
i just have like 3 characters with double belts to speed it up
Tbh I just do double lotus on 9/10 and rosary/veil on the pusher. I keep double black belts to level the pusher on floor 1 of the next mastery once I hit and repeat.
sure is taking a while
the game open with taunting mark is the big thing anyways
you mean having sneaking open or just being active ingame? Cause I hate sneaking tbh and if I need to have sneaking open for that strat then I'll simply not do it lol
Doing dungeons on WW...
i want the achivments
If you open sneaking and stay on the same map you can reopen sneaking again and the gains persist. It breaks if you leave the map
It is wonky
also my equonox. i ignored it for way too long.
rosary beads on 8 characters and 2 characters with lotus and I've gotten this far so far on mastery 6 just not opening sneaking until a few hours to check if I get the door
do you leave the game open overnight?
yeah
then thats where you can do the sneaking open thing with taunting mark
idling in idleon is pretty much always bad
it makes everyone never faint
but I'm not idling? I'm lvling, farming money or cluster farming
When he said Idleon he meant you are going to Idle with the game on.
how many flower stacks did you have per floor on m7?
When I broke through to m8, on the final door I think i had like 4 or 5k flowers
dang i think i might have to go back to m6 to farm better stuff cus im at 30k stacks floor 1 m7 and its still 100% detect rate
Its worth to go back to m6 once you increase your gear max lvls. But honestly I think mostly it's from all other sources of sneak bonuses + the setup i run
nice 42000
5th done 
Town?
im also like 1 month away from fractal island so i dont have the stealth bonus from there 
Oh yeah that's a big one
thats right or ?
yes
yup 
Now we wait.
Holyyy shyt
honestly. cant care about those amn dungeons
soonish....
nice splunking my dude
since you're only using 1 pusher in higher mastery seaking, do you still need to keep 10 nunchucks to equip everyone incase they get lucky hits in or should I just save 1
kph going down by 2 digits when I go to the next zone sure is something 
i only keep 1 or 2 max
How you get so many tier 4 slots
can someone send the current merit please
prob event shop and all artifacts
its fucked
dude i thought that was photoshopped
HAHAHAHHAHAHAHA
literally jumped up for no reason
bruh what the fuck the ribboners
lava prolly working on something with the servers TBH
or we just getting trolled, which would be funny too
Lava changing the ratios randomly to promote "Democracy Sux" event shop next update
yeah its deff broken
HAH
oh thats a gif i use, read endgame chat if you want my opinion on it
just a little annoyed its been months
well for you to be endgame talk beguile you first must be endgame
Is Depth charge bugged or is there some AFK penalty for the currency generation? Maybe it was explained in dialogue but I dont remember. I dont generate as much currency as its stated in the game... I am at 84/hr and 4 hrs ago I bought every upgrade I could. I am at 158 now and I was active like 2hrs and AFK 2 hrs
is it better to spam break all for jar enchanting or wait for them to stack
all thing research related are effected by its afk rates iirc
ok ty, so I guess its just be online or dont progress... that AFK percentage is a joke ๐
Please Gang
Imagine being close to finishing sigils but the gang votes for nuggets
how am i supposed to get this up without kruk ๐
I had 5k in it and my kruk bubbles are 60 a day 
fuck krunk
candy? pls share more
Stable genius uses oak logs. If you can't active them for the resource requirements pop some candies and get the materials to manually level it
oh
so candy
fill up floor with logs
turn auto loot off
is that what u mean
if you make sure your liquid is at max and turn on logs on logs with a mage, you should just be able to leave auto loot on while chopping and keep hitting the level up button
hmmm
idt im that good yet but hopefully soon
how much tier 1 liquid do you have?
Yes. And ribbon your liquid cap meals
is your cc good enough to run infinite against tremur wurms?
don't have to be in ac mode
have yall seen merito voting right now 
if youre able to do you should do CC on guardian crabs in w7
its a flex
Afraid to look
don't look, you'll cry
idt i can one shot them
which map is that one btw
if you can do it in mc it's amazing green tachs tbh
the drop rate multi card one
isnt that manta
HOW IS RIBBONS WINNING
there are 2
WTFFF
so that map better than tremor cuz more CC or money/xp?
Yea ima need them to log off for me
Think itโs worth finding hotair over? Seems something broke for ribbons to randomly go from 18%to 38% in a few hours.
yes, quite a bit better than tremor wurms
ts might be cope
he already is
whoa
ok i unlock that map in a few hrs
ill try it there
is it more mobs and everything?
for me during liquid ballot it was actually a full minute faster to max out my liquid to go back to bubbles
yes, more mobs, easier platforms
better rewards cause xp/money/DR multi card
kk
but can't AC there
plus you get more exp, money and ofc cards if you do it enough
o yea def not
im stuck at start of w6
for sailing is 9999m loot max?
no there's no cap
Oh I see now. I donโt usually go to gen chat 
huh
istg visually it just maxed out at 9999m
maybe just really lucky
some things visually do that but you can get more, like the torches in hole
icic
isnt monument like way better than ribbon still
Oh they're both good, depends what you're focusing, i just think it's funny
honestly as long as it's either ribbon or monument I'm happy
its cause its bugged, lava will prob fix it back to when monument is winning so ribbons isnt winning
I just 99%'d justice on a single run so I'm not mad if it's ribbons. But I bet people are pissed
i thought monument was like WAY better than both
not close
Don't underestimate meal bonuses 
idt u understand my monument neglect
dont underestimate 10 months of monument bonues in a monument story
tiny
I only got 10k on bravery, 5k on both justice and wisdom and got all non mc on justice atm so I'm happy if we get monument in a month or so instead of now so I can save up more and actually get something good
get em all up to 24k
ok anyways
so for the stable jenius bubble
strat is to AC till max liquid, go chop logs until no liquid, repeat?
is this best method?
lava fixed
you can go chop logs while holding down the upgrade button of the bubble and tabbing out to keep it upgrading until youre out of liquid without having to baby sit
awesome @wild vortex haha monument is back to winning
stash logs on alts or chest, before going back to refill liquid, can still level alchemy from chest supplies
no need for this if i can chop enough logs right?
i have a small feeling that the numbers thing is a complete rewrite of the backend of idleon
once you hit the resource cap its 1 billion per level
o yea i mean it would be on auto chop
and i would be upgrading
if youve got decent eff you really dont need to stash logs and can just use them since you get more logs than you can use at a time anyways so youre full inv all the time
ye but if i can chop >1b per swing or wtever then i can js upgrade from my gains
^issue is this hard for me rn
wtever ill worry abt this later
too high cortisol
yeah, but having them in stash while refilling liquid just gives you a buffer for more levels, not needed but its an option
do what feels more efficient/less stressful for you
also, if you have sigil syrups they give a bit of liquid on use too
thats true, I didnt think of that but honestly the time it would take to stash so many logs would probably kill all your enthusiasm for lvling bubbles lol
its bad enough that he'll have to do it for the bars farming for maxing vials
o it def would
im making the executive decision to ignore those vials
yeah, bars and dust, hampters, and clam shells are a pain
i just finished half the dust ones, think i have purple left
is there any other strat than just plain candying for shells and hampster?
elemental summoner portal and silly high drop rate
mm I tried to farm those at 20k dr and I did not get more than candying
just build the ac crystal and candy it.
atleast on dk
dont try and active
ac crystal buffing AFK gains and dr will super boost candy usage
I've got sheller at 1.3 dr and 1.3 afk, that's what I tested with, I didnt test hampster tho
more than I had, but I also had like 40k dr
didnt take very long
daym that's alot of dr
whats the indisputable best merit?
I got my sheller vial to 2nd last lvl with like 300h candy and hampster to 3rd last lvl with like 120h candy
i think
pretty sure it's statue
statue boosts like everything in the game basically and statue weeks are crazy for prints
Why are people doing monument now?
I saw some ppl do monuments in a kind off protest when the merit went weird with ribbon, idk why they would but they did
i mean it does boost everything in the game but what would i do with temp boosts tho?
ig i cld push sneaking a bit or smth
get more xp
nice
because fountain boosted monument like crazy. so people want to stack some levels. The new pets also boosted monuments an INSANE amount. chests worth 2x, then mulitply by 10x. its gonna be massive gains.
which pet?
prints affect tome, atom income, atoms turn into damage due to sailing, w7 requires you get all the damage you can muster
yeah i was wondering why now and not in 3 days with a juiced monument merit
oh, I thought we were waiting for that, no idea why anyone would waste now
how does sailing make atoms -> dmg?
pow10 atoms artifact
o yah
What would increase the Rat King besides the Rat King internal upgrade, itself?
you mean tokens per hour?
increase the chance of a crown
is it worth using this if my damage is 63 when having the reliquarium in my inventory
nevermind i got my question answered in general
i thinnk it's just the import item and the rat king crown multi for turning in tokens
how can i get palette luck of 335 im stuck at 225
Did you push spelunking to the last boss?
that's a big boost for luck
That's a massive chunk
lemmie check
sticker research node green shaped?
does this chance increase the more mutated the crown sprout is?
is 1 in 17 referring to the most mutated ver? or base crown?
oh you cant click the plants to see descriptions anymore
you can if you turn off the ability to seal them from auto harvest if that option has been toggled
the easiest crown to get, each one down the list of found plants in the log has a rarer chance
filling the log book first makes the crowns "easier to get" cause those first ones even the early t10s are easier than the later t1s etc
not greenshaped just +1 in the node and ballot week
expected ๐ฉ
gotta full commit get that 2nd point
Wouldnt the Attire be better green shaped anyway?
that was the second point lmao
oh that was a progress pic gotcha
i didnt green shape attire for my emp shit
always something
this is just ES atm for the tome flex before endgame gen uploads lmao
I have a doubt, how much drop rate you have?
ngl i should check again cause i went nuts on statues and shit the past few days
with +1 point in sticker dmg
swapped to full damage cards and using dmg boost food?
+5.5q from attie greenshaped
did you try removing ghost? the damage reduction might move it out of being viable. i did feel like aura was ok when i was doing it though because it was full screen per cast
i need to figure out why my food cap is lower all of a sudden :/
What effects food stack? i have the star talent maxed, i have rucksack active and zerg off, but im missing 3m off my stack
what ghost
some of my chars have that issue aswell
the poison one, that makes the fart clouds, or are you using cannisters?
1.5b crystal?
now i need to just inch out a biiiit more damage
it was lab chip for star signs
Holy

Whats your coldseekers weapon power
I dont know if this is impressive or if no one is trying or both
no one is trying lmao
i asked the other day and someone told me my damage was low lmao
Ah
no egg cape either 
My damage on AC is probably higher
Dumb question but how does Auto trapping claims work again with xp? How does xp get accumulated as it seems my characters arent gaining trapping levels.
Same and no fucking clue
are u using nature traps placed by vman with xp talent active?
if not do that
If you can double it
is there an efficient dawg den setup?
the start with fear?
The skull one
Why Vman? Sounds good I didnt know the XP diff was that huge, that was it. Thanks.
usually
well obviously adjust the damage as needed
3 weeks no updates
but thanks for the picture
lava ded
could someone explain to me how people stack up tens of thousands of flowers/deaths in sneaking so that their stealth goes up and they can survive higher masteries?
Finally starting fountain caveโฆ. I hate it so far
keep the window open and use yellow belts
just double yellow belts on everyone?
nothing else?
double yellows and keep window open
oh just like kiwi said
at least on the toon you're pushing with
alr thank u guys
1 taunting mark
singular on one character
15q 
150*
alr thanks for the help
how the fk is this so rng heavy? got this but attempts after are maxing way lower
best ive gotten my ac dmg to so far (havent swapped chips yet tho)
that seems like a lot
i lag so hard on dawg den lmao
Lets see if i can afk 161
66q crystal i think
doesnt look too big, but i havnt gone full dmg in forever
161 is easy
I think ill roughly 2-3x after swapping chips but yeah its not wild
i might be able to do 162
i want the next opal from dawg den 
so um where is that supposed to be cuz i dont see anything
bugged unobtainable
Thats the fun part it just isnt
its supposed to be where u looking, but it aint there
ok so not blind, or that crazy XD
maybe your amplifiers can be optimized because i vagualey recall someone saying some are capped or something
what char you doing this on?
ac is best right?
thats what i thought atleast
Whats your attack bar look like?
didnt even touch it tbh
Pretty sure dk is better since higher defense so you can push dmg modifier higher
oh..
wondering if there's a calculator for dog den
if you can max modifier AC is better
couldnt max it
but i think people only did that during statue
ended there
yeah do dk
maybe could reup the healing one again. cause it was down to rng at the end with killing small dogs
couldnt get close to killing the big ones later
its aight ig
best dps ever aint fun anymore since you dont have to edge urself closer to the whitescreen to beat others
Wait, youve whitescreened going for max dps?
that was very common during w6, yes
Oh dang, ive never
the game just fully froze when you reached x dmg
Ouch
crashing numbers, mostly like to happen next statue merit
cant remember what number exactly it was
That must be why lava brought on crystal dmg with w7
is it the 32bit integer limit
Prolly the 64 bit limit
we've had 2 crystal damages now, gonna need a 3rd
no 64bit is insanely high
I forgot

But def over 32 limit that shyt only like 2.147b
you got sigil damage in research?
imagine playing mobile
hmm
true hen its not even 100q
Get back to genchat Chairnatomy
dont buy it, it doesnt work anyway 
well I don't think it's gonna get to 18 digits anytime soon
you first
why is your dr kinda low?
swapped gallery round for more damage
Full dmg cards and gallery
whats your usual dr?
well good news 100q is 162 emp easily
30.2k in town
without dr gear?
with
i meant other toons
very wow
oh other toons is around 22k
nah, was something random like idk e32
damn thats alot how many 0.1% tome tags you got?
1 lol
ok now im confused cus what am i missing???
Drop rate and damage
share em with the rest of us
probably
Looks like 163 is doable also
Which means i should be able to snipe this
new leaderboard generation
5th>8th light work
how do i get atom max lvl of 70? i have 50 rn
Event
5th>8th light work
i could probably active 164 but i dont wanna
Also you still havent answered my question from 2 days ago
It can go to 70? Wtf
DK supremacy
my boss rings are on my lab locked AC 
W1 store
yea but then I need to cycle them again for wp and thats just...
ew
What am i supposed to do lmao
bruh
honestly dont know how it compares to just w7 stones, but before it was cycling these for wp
replaces the supersonic you think chat?
yes
speeds cool for stacking multis, but damage will always be best for pushing (99% of the time)
170 or nothin
Ye I have a high damage specifically and a fast attack wand
i thought the spelunking boss gave a research shape
this is already close enough
turns out he's better than that!!
what dr should I shooting for in lategame?
lots
like 30k+?
yeah thats sounds about right
damn ): im at 13k now and its getting tough lol
im quite fond of better palette
you can do everything with 10k, everything else is just to make it a lil less painful 
man wheres my kpk
underneath the catching exp gain you just gotta vote for it first and it will appear
no u
do i really need to jump up every single time i try this damn thing 

i swear this is gonna be the one that takes 200 attempts
u can do two if you time
he hates us equally
true
he hates f2p's the most
so gold nugget? got it
thats why he wont talk to us anymore
You can squeeze in 2/3 attempts per fall.
alternatively just hit it, skill issue
he doesnt like what hendos doing these days so he left
yes
ugh back to back beginner weeks in killroy...smh
b3b
Its 50/50 you either get it or you dont
this last bit is being a bitch
what showdown is that? i am the bad at roman numerals
164
damn
what skill bar should i be running for emp? im just running skulls?
skull, potions to apply weakness, aura for the healing so you can ignore mechanics XD
has anyone done math on how many golden balls from 1 arcade ball on average, with 0 gold ball bonus
who cares? just get millions
these potions? i forgot picture
just curious
What color?
hold to purple potion for splash weakness, throw it at base of boss occassionally
was it purple?
time to open gifts?
Do i actually have to throw it at the base of the boss?
how tf do i get more coins ๐ญ
At that megaflesh 100%
to get it to apply? most of the time yeah. Its not that hard you dont even have to stop auto attacking to do it
why do both of my dks get vastly different exp? they are both on skilling and the cogs dont boost one more than the other
active DK always gets worse exp
oh, so its just bc hes active?
could someone explain to me how this worship time limit things works? All i really know is if itโs longer than 2 hours it doesnโt give u a new personal best wave?
True. You "snapshot" construction when you open cogboard. So don't open it on your active dk
have you played literally any of Idleon?
Oh wait so like beef up exp cogs and open it on them and we can swap it out?
in worship tower defense, if u surpass the 9999 second wave limit and it starts the next wave does it give u a new personal best wave still after you beat them all or no? anybody know?
Personal best yes. Ability to save. No
I learned that the hard way after an 8h run last week ๐ญ
so i donโt have to worry about not getting a new personal best even if this takes hours and hours
which is better
im not doing 165 lmao
both...both is good
i have 2 more upgrades left so was wondering which has more impact
Wait i was wrong. I just checked my recorded best. It doesnt
๐ซฉ๐ซฉ
So i got to 230 and it took too long and then did the thing. And then I died before 240
iโve been here for hours and youโre telling me it was just a waste of time ๐ซฉ
good call ill dump it in the other one then
but thats... spoiling the surprise of the next set of bonus!
In theory yeah, but your xp cogs should always be beefed no matter what
They are the best cogs always
I am always tryina maximize xp. But I was thinking for a week I could swap my flaggy ones to get like the last 5 tiny slots lol
gonna need more than a week lol
It might be some kind of meta to snapshot tiny cogs idk. Flaggys are the most important atm till all slots are unlocked
True
Mmmmmmm 2 new evolution upgrades
1000Q -> 1 yeah
did ppl get this lower than 2 sec?
probably
yeah I did
What if toll tunnel could take your grand discoveries
whats the threashhold? or does it just depends on the marble to 4.5x?
1.479 seconds
i menat like the price threashhold
Idk somewhere e25
How do I get to world 8
yeh thats far off from where i am, i can barely get 1QQQ
Down to 0 sec
that feels so fake but i guess it can be done
down to -1 sec
That's what my wife's plastic surgeon said too
if its one thing then its that the idleon community keeps blowing my mind with efficiency
Who the fuck hit zero seconds lmao
This chat is only for sub 2 second fountation ppl only
cu then
there's no way in hell someone hit 0 seconds you need 0.4 seconds or lower that's way out of reach
bye have fun with kiwi
You a nerd who has to reply to every msg? lol
You a dumbass who can't answer questions? lol
no thats me
No need to be racist
That is probably enough
nah i want more
is there any fix to the starbook bugs? ive got 40k drop and can't get forthy malk. nothings filtered.
What
dumbasses are a race now?
apparently
yeah and they live here

Are you self identifying
Yeah, Chaotic Kiwi the leader
good...then im a racist now too
im already a german
Oh so your a Pro then
yes...professional racist
Is the new w7 skill dropping this week?
afd huh
im only psychotic...not psychic
Did you guys solve your immigration problems
only way to fix immigration is USA not destroying other countries....so...no chance in hell
Nice
What game is this? Pokemon Diamond?
he just makes it more visible...the problem existed before too
Im just gonna treat him as a discount wavy and ignore him
curse you blickter
Is the observation for 72 non-existent, or am i blind af?
bugged
oh also
OK makes sense, wondered why i could find 74 and not 72 - thanks
why did glo not upload
nice
