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oh

6/6 is fire
ran out of others lol
spelunk
oh palette
your vials are better and palette then legend talent as well
next sigil only needs 900 days anyway
i dont really like the bonuses they give honestly
think of the multi damage
think my DBs had enough now, back to golems
just nwo hit that? smh
I'm doing gd
still dont quite understand why lava capped crystal chance to 10%
lag
doubt that
peoples phones were blowing up
damn i did a amber run today already, getting close to another one 
not my problem ๐
No definitely lag
dont crystal farm on a phone
dawg I had 1/3 crystal chance on w7 launch and my shit was freezing every 5 minutes
People would crash repetitively cleared out the crystals
obviously my phone freezes too if theres a lot of drops
I'm on pc bro
sorry i dont lag like in anything
wellll
if theres like
Easier to cap the drops than pull out of the app market completely
50000 drops on the ground
Cap the crystals*
it starts to slow down
Look at Mr datacenter
i just have a slightly above average gaming pc idk what to tell you
That you have great specs compared to most players here?
fair enough
Especially since there are app only players
games still going to lag regardless of your pc specs if you dont have world 2 stats
dank is trying to excuse his shitty ass DR with his pc
go play AC and then do a 300 depth spelunk on same map, see if you lag
how about you get a slightly above average idleon account
well i already do have that
whats your drop
good leave
hey it aint my fault lava refuses to combine drops into stacks

this incredibly simple fix has been suggested upwards of 100 times and he still refuses to do it
is it simple to know all mobs are gonna die at once to combine the drop
dumb question guys, is it worth depositing 80k Kachow statues and level it up or save to get 1mil (may take 400 years though)
dump them
if all statue zenith
not worth keeping?
you have 80k kachow statues???
is it onyx aswell?
zamn
yea onyx
What's the current max sushi you can get in sushi station?
59
if onyx and all other zenith dump them
i hate minehead its such a god damn unenjoyable thing
Thanks ๐๐ป
Spelunky and Coral are the only ones not zenithed
fuuuck
just disable the main mob drops on mobs when farming
filtering the main drops is super easy and basically fixes any performance issues i have
he's runnin the streamer client 
yeah except even filters they technically still drop, just invisible or some garbage due to lavacode
^
but he also changed it recently again
with the boss drop fix right
idk, I dont read patch notes like every other idleon player
idk the usage percentage seems pretty low
2.5g for this game is insane wdym
ive seen worse
minecraft also has terrible ram usage
its an idler
i guess
its an excel spreadsheet with pretty pictures
what a ripoff
hold on a sec
slightly above average pc ain't doing ya justice is it
I had 4 rowes of 5's at some stage.... cried inside
i guess performance doesnt fix shitty luck ๐
geometry dash???
my hardest is only supersonic 
damn son my hardest is time machine ๐ญ
you're like 500 hz
can you hit last item on glitter naturally or do I need green
hey just because im good in like 3 games doesnt mean im good in every game
for gds?
yeah, without gd pot
I'd assume if you wanna maximize how many you can get yeah green but otherwise it'd be regular
well idk how amber runs there look
what games are you good at
Can somebody explain to me what the hell does the yellow elixir do
why'd your name change
this?
Yes
Me?
mhm
tf2 uhhhhhh factorio somewhat uhhhh tetris (very "somewhat" good)
1v1 me tetris 99 bitch I'll put you in the mat
I didn't, and i know you're mixing me up with @paper seal
sorry i only play tetr.io
ok why are we sharing pfpfs
I thought it meant like cost 7 get 5 back in return
ok man
no it's just reducing the cost
its 25% return not 75% return
can I please get blushpit #8
tabs closed I'm not actually gonna 1v1 you
damn ๐
its also decimal, since ive seen it proc 4 on warhammer
Cause we both used the same picture of pands by chance and people kept mixing us both, until Christmas when we both decided to use the same pfp
Goddamn this makes no sense
Wdym doesnt make sense, its 25% reduced stam cost
if you spent 10, you get 25% returned, 25% of 10 is 2.5 so you would spend 7.5 in total. Whats not to understand?
Cause the description says 25% of the stamina is given back
which it literally is
yes what is 25% of 7
Yes, same as 25% reduced cost
1.75
good job you can do division
it all happens in 1 calculation, not two
very impressive
that would be multiplication
same thing
Bro using 2 different discords to chat alone ๐
Dawg that's norus
I see the same pfp so it's the same person
Anyone know if voidwalker is still glitched where if you do a speed run the kills in scroll get reset?
No
not a bug
oops, almost gonna press the block button
thankfully you're not them
does it also do mini boss kills?
nice im only at T
screw number 10.
real
Question about grand discoveries, are the odds unique to each cave? For example, if you get 1 discovery in the first cave your chances stay the same in the others?
Thanks, it has strange wording and I thought it was gonna be worse than it actually is
You should be able to see the odds on IT
w5 statue, best place for dk is tremor worm?
I think oranges, but it might have changed
ive been doing oranges but some1 said tremor
idk
tremors
y r u here
also ty

yo isnt it 4:30 am for u
go to sleep
Meanwhile i completely bricked Bubba by taking the wrong gift xd
what mf are you at?
8
ah should be fine unless you bricked your charisma too
122 hustle, 120 rizz, 36 joy and 33 mindfull
yeah a bit bricked, should be mindful 120 first xD
wait so whats the order? mindful max, then hustle then rizz?
im missing these from the event shop and still have ~40 event plays left but already got all the nametags, should i just save the event plays for the next event or try and get something else from the aisle
well pump this and pray next fountain update comes soon, should be another bubba multi xD
I just signed in during the morning after a night's afk, my sushi only had enough fuel for one level 14 and according to the upgrades I should hit max cap in little over two hours which is close to 400k
Am I missing something?
nice
mine is at 422, i need to farm more money
hi, did any1 managed to push samurai with AC ?
depends how far you are tbh, once you get to coins this is good
but always mindful first max
never will change
im only MF7
but noted on the mindful
does the 2x lvls work on gifts? isnt tha tbad? cuz u increase cost
no it doesnt work on stuff like gifts, smoker,dice
kk
im to tired to explain how it works, but its op and makes bubba impossible or 100x harder if you dont use it
Woo, progress
mindful is basically;
instead of getting 1 lvl, you get 2 lvls, but the cost will only go up as if it was only 1 lvl
this way it's alot cheaper
mmm
Anyone got points invested in G5, H5, I5 or H4? I would like to know are they worth it/strong
you guys dont just reveal a single tile at a time?
I don't do minehead in general
true and real
Hmm I think I'll get some unlocks there, namely those 2
yea all pretty good for minehead^^
minehead would be so much better if it was actual minesweeper
but first do you have j6 max?
like 1 point is useful but anything past that and I mightaswell just shoot myself
I fking hated it at first but Idk, kinda starting to like it. I don't even try to do it that seriously, just see how many tiles I can open lol
i kinda wanna push minehead but this bonus is doodoo
you want to push mine head xD
i would atleast get the big currency upgrades
These seem actually pretty strong tbh
yeah j6 and this one are the best
wow more useless garbage
this one is alright
Couple of days for research 70, then I think I'll invest into those
Try to prioritize maximum land rank exp to keep the unlocks coming. The 5th colum is rog bonuses, all others are farming related
all i want is more crop value come on
which of the two then
Finally on the last leg. 
boost or megaboost
The 2nd one. I assume you have low rank levels overall so the soil exp boost probably doesn't do much yet
just wait till you get the flag upgrade
idk
blickter down again
Compare which gives you more, might be the first one. Either way focus on it 100% untill at least 100+ rank levels
30*26>>139
ok I gained a single level and it gave me this much study rate
each level is like 5k study rate
Enchanted for study rate?
maybe
Fking lol
sure cant wait to upgrade this
I've had this for ages
Maybe
me and blickter will fight to death over study rate
im catching up
too bad im stuck doing this
wish i had more fertilizers
yeah goodluck bro i've been at 0% enchant chance since 34 and I did this ages ago when i was lacking collectables
is 100k study rate good 
better than mine :D
You got green 8 maxed right?
pre fountain? 
yeah
pre fountain we were at like 36k
Don't worry about those too much. Just keep rotating crops around for fastest upgrade and land ranks. I recommend higher tier crops right now to boost land rank xp first
im gonna go through all the crops 1 by 1 to get the maximum speed possible
for myself anyways
wish there were more farming speed sources
Np I was at 8,5k, jumped to 300k. Still massive boost, can't wait to get actual study rate stuff set
you could probably get like 30-32 collectable now a days idk
if you're nick you can get 39 in a single day with all collectables unlocked and still be behind me 
pog
yeah
do i need to unlock them somehow
well that's where all the good oens are
When should you use orange elixir from the lategame amber setups? or do they auto drink in auto?
one goddamn toon, who wont quit
leave some amber for me man
well his goal by the looks of it was gds
im just item farming, dont care about the amber lol
or items? I guess

Oops!
I FUCKIN DID IT
anyways what level do you guys have this upgrade at
Is there a guide on legend talents?
check pins
as high as reasonable
has there really been no new digd in a few days?
no
welcome to tuvalu
damn
speaking of cheaters is foxess legit? she has millions of the Easter stones and idk how she farmed them
lava slackingf fr
something about buying the Easter gummies from packs
Uh
well assuming it spawns mobs that drops them that's very easy to do with modern DR
You just stack orb and go ham
idk when they were available
and the pack does give gummies
nova blast gotta be the most useless thing ever
pack is always available i suppose
Where shall i put this beauty? My Peach Ring is already on 20 ๐
Nice, what kind of artifact find? Been pushing the last ones at ~0,03% for days, got sushi one atm
is it pack 3 axolotl is in my way 
I'm at like 130B
Gaming bits
oen of the w7 meals or like skill eff
NO WAY
i'd say skill eff
hell no bro whart
skill is really strong
It was troll haha
I ALREADY HAD THIS ONE
Nice. Only 27b for me
least deranged gaming addict
DUPLICATE PRISTINE CHARM
yeah you can roll duplicates
WHAT THE FUCK
Oops!
ARE YOU SERIOUS
you can even
Happened to me 4 times as well, always same charm too
DUPLICATE ON THE SAME THING I ALREADY HAVE
holy sheeeeeesh
bros only got 1 charm, and gets a dupe
this is how old that screenshot is
damn
10 months ago
sneaked so much into the background pages
you're getting dangerously close to me
please tell me youre using your symbols starting top left
i thought theres be more gold charms...
not even 1 million levels? slacking
I don't think the display would change for 1M
scrolls better as highest to multi no?
mark is better imo

in general yes but if you focus one thing it's better to put that in the highest slot
don't knoiw if it is 1 milli or WW talent
well my WW talent is level 710
wow that is like zero difference from mister 100k gemstones
im gonna max book this now for the extra 30 or so levels
yeah it's just for completion's sake, with a yellow belt meteorite setup it takes like 10 minutes to get it to 1 mill xD
how disappointing
go for 10m for the monkey brains
what else should i super and max book (dont say the abom one)
medallions
ww acc
WW defense
acc > def
huh?
def<acc
what does this have to do with defense or accuracy
well if david then super then yes
this is not a hybrid ww this one is purely for buffs
pretty simple if you ask me
give him some of your talent points kiwi
i have 2 wws
what is max talent lvl now btw?
i have more mc points than points for this class
396 from library and somewhere in the 760s-770s with all the stuff added
Damn i need to work on that then, im at 379
thank god you can undo supers now
Endless is at 317
endless doesn't affect talent library from summoning
equinox?
How r u guys getting level 7 symbol slot?
well I figured you were talking about max checkout
try until it doesnt fail
not your overall talent level
with alot of luck
this isnt looking very massive to me ๐
K thanks
sorta...
there is a legend talent which increases the chance
YOU HAVE GOT TO BE FUCKING KIDDING ME
I think I have like 1 point into that
f
What level u have it at
NOT A SINGLE LEVEL OF DEATHSKULL BUT I ALREADY HAVE SOVEREIGN POINTAGON
A IF I FUCKING NEED CHAPTER BONUSES
2
oh thats normal
yo can anyone tell me why my siegebreaker is by far the best in terms of damage
K same
low red salt stack for DK
I think that particular artifact is more common than the others, rate should drop quite a bit now that you got that one
this talent
i guess
these are so insanely useless of my lord
guys who's gonna tell him about lore
cave1 is goated
Oops!
Most important lores actually
sentence him to spelunk eff jail
that does a good portion of damage but even then, i still have like 4x the dmg
that's usually the entire reason that talent's really good early on
what are you doing in my storage
where do i find this fishie?
Woah it's that series
nowhere apparently
the story of your crowns 
Crab
Anybody need small nugget?
where are crabs
can i undo super talents
where's the cheese
where?
yeah that's a 4B increase
wow i have the exact same!
one of these two maps
Well... it's not a series of unfortunate events, it's just 1
50M unfortunate events that led to you clicking more and more while being stuck at 97 crowns
What, did you just unlock w7 today? Lmao
It's 98, been there for 112m evos lol
cammers in shambles
holy double standard
I mean
james jenkins in protective custody
I actually wonder if cammers made it to the end maps yet
@sacred oasis
i do not want to afk here for 200 hours oh my
Go back to early w6
Insane, actually thought you have all 100 already. Gl
shup
havent reached spearfish apparently
I reached spearfish within the first 12 hours of release
same but 12 days 
๐ฎโ๐จ
why is there a comma
so much shit
absurdly low afk gains too
they were reset in W7
uhhhh ok ig
Most people arent in endgame yet
define endgame
1.2m study rate
I just wanna do my prints!!... 
FUCK
- never said anything endgame
- would say you need 2k minimum in w7
kiwi you cant be slackin, get 2m study rate
ok f it 437 hours for a fishie not worth
i'm never going to get to 1 mill + study, my jar enchants are too garbage and CBA going offline to get them higher 
I REALLY DONT WANNA DO THIS
yep, backtrack or smth
like idk, grind your gold dumplings
bro, go candy and get that mason up
sadly no, my cat passed away recently and my dog is soon to follow, been kinda depressed
when i feel like it
so nah i havent reached the button
oh eesh... sad to hear that
oh my god
Oops!
Where we going at right now?
is 396 max book at the moment?
anyone willing to do an account review? and help me get my kph up https://idleontoolbox.com?profile=Jenny_76
speaking of max book.... no pristine gets me to 378
not even 380 
last i checked i was past jellofish but that was it
i wont do it quick but i'll check abit, sure...
pretty much everything, easier to just follow scolibot
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there
why does your siege breaker have the most damage of all๐ญ
How do you get more legend talent points?
every 100 acc level
Ohh
i dont know 
it's like every 100 character levels past 500
char level*
ince stop glazing on sb
clueless
oooohhhhhh
wassup
Just got to w7 I have no idea what to do here
kill fish, sleep with fish, marry the fish
didn't he shadowcap speedna ?
quit while you're ahead
at like 2k% yeah but it's still strong early on
oh for sure, it's just sad ;(
well i mean, more reason to ditch sb
garbage class
i mean SB was never useful for anything anyways
yeah, it was just funny how much higher his damage was because of sppedna
i use it for storage...
everytime i say this people from konya are coming to @versed moon house
the dmg/anvil talent also was bonkers
do you guys think we're getting DK MC first? i would assume so since i'd imagine DK MC would correspond to spelunking
no clue, we wont get any mc until skill 3 is out at least (and even then could be longer)
no they are coming to your house
bruh i still have my last character as begginer...
should i just give him a class?
true, i'm just fantasizing x) gonna be nice for the other classes being hopefully useful again
what characters do you have as doubles
i would say AC if not already
2 dks and ac
i already have 2
ah ok, leave it then ig
betttt
not much you can do with it
How tf
I'm level 750 with my vman and still don't have as much dmg as you
I have like 20x less
wow i finally made it
dmg depends on account progress ( Hole, Town mechanics )
this aint my vman thoo
Itโs funny how hard godshard felt to make then the next two sets are so easy haha
My last 3 chars are not progresed on their jobs despite being 1300 lev lol. Only a regular warrior,archer and mage ๐
maybe if smelting didnt take 7 years
I think next Set will require the newest salts
so eternal Salt pain comes back
lwhyyy???
how much power do i need for the last object in glitterbug cave to be destroyed? got like 3e27 and still cant get it
The one upside of double SB I guess but definitely not the meta anymore.
lawd u just fixed my salts i was salt locked for weeks
id say es if they dont plan on getting a doot otherwise ac
E29 and pray for luck
or E30-31 for secure
I didnt want to decide back then what job i wanted them to be so decided nothing lmao. Kept progresing and didnt give af about them ๐๐
They simply sit at spelunking,div,lab or monuments lmao
do i put t11 ribbons on these
still didnt progress much in spelunking
just buy a reset when the meta shifts
I think as long as you donโt have 3 of any class it really doesnโt matter tbh. Once all have master classes all of us with 2dk/2sb/2es will be just fine tbh.
I knoww i could,am just lame i believe ๐ i dont even wanna know how much am hindering my progress
But at the same time idc,having fun with wrong choices lmao
last two guy, ES and SB does nothing since I created them 1 year ago
If anything the people with multi of the current Masterclasses will fall behind.
fyi masterclass drops next week. might wanna consider getting some more db ac and ww doubles
does nothing lv 1500

Source: trust me bro.
wym
Where does it say we are getting new mcs?
did i say that?
no we're getting MC candy week
Oh youโre talking about the fucking ballot I thought you were baiting mc class release lol
why would i say to have multiple existing ones if a new one releases ๐ญ
I don't want ember run anymore, but can't waste this level ๐ญ ๐ญ
I am not allowed to sleep, cause then i am forced to amber run ( mission would be to Grand discovery run with LOW red bar )
someone tips on how to rush world 7 please?
Buy packs
unlock portals-> kill emperor -> w7
Guess what i'm doing 
candy
So wierd seeing masterclasses being like lvl 500
but then again weren't we around lvl 500 for W6 release? can't remember
i unlocked mine at lv 350
no idea tbh
picnic stoveaway dailies
OHHH
need that trohpy for tome x)
somewhere around lv500~600
i seeee
so i guess to make all 90 discoveries i need like e40 in spelunking?
e30
I was lvl 600 when waiting for W7 release
not fountain?
no i'm slacking
xD
i did push fountain for a few days, but i need to go fix other things more urgently 
need to finish my frogs to 1.5x DR on AC so i can actually do some proper cluster farming to get statue and lamp bonus up before i go back
atleast i should be 60k DR on frogs now :)
Need?
265% increase
i never saw nuggets with M in my life, i need to check IT
they are called muggets
what a banger
This is what I have right now
that equinox is lower than mine
Lowkey want to max it before symbols since it's 2x increase on current range
Bro..
what is the best way to hunt for 8 evolution?
Increase crop depot bonuses and growth speed
is there a way to get hourly pings in this server for spiketrap minigame?
i'm desperate at this point for tome
this is the last upgrade that does something, right?
save up 15+ chems and the plant you want, then click on the chems
there's a sweet spot izanahi, where u dont get hit
cool minigame
does cactus help?
no, just chems
??
I sent you informatic dm
Do you have golem or something?
sadly i dont
i only have doot and a few free pets lol
yayyyyyy.......
just used 5 chems and didnt got it
congratsssss
_ _
ive already maxed it ๐
ooohhh well uhhh congrats on that too heheheheh
๐ฎ i hate gaming
disable pallete, save up more than just 5 chems
btw guys, for gaming is that growth speed enough to focus my nuts on palette, or shall i keep pushing for 0.0 sec?
Me too
i hate td
Gaming is pog. Need to get those crowns somehow
It's not that bad anymore, since you can always do more waves later
How
Idk even growth time anymore
how what?
How growth sped
ehh im kinda stagnant
I neglect it
thanks, when i have disabled instalt got it
I think I have 170 on one of them
ill start doing the same as soon as i get all to prehistoric armor and tools
I'm trying to upg my characters as well, the problem is worship and trapping levels
That's for godshard tools too
hello, i have 2 questions
- i need 1 more event play for jackpot, will i be able to get it tomorrow since that's when the event ends or not?
- in the fountain, what is a moolah stack? i have Stackin' Manayy that says moolah stacks are worth more but i have no moolah stacks
dude my traps and skulls are still default on most my characters
which are the best to worst
From what I heard bottom left is best, then shape
As for the other two, idk
Research > Shape > Cogs > Monument. If very fresh monuments and early in on them, then it's Research > Monument > Shape
Like very early, sub 10k monument bonus levels
cheers research it is
In this image, ow do i get to N4? When M4 and M5 doesnt allocate points
why are we censoring charts now?
Server links I assume, since I suppose it counts as advertisements.
So u donโt get banned
unfortunate
All infographics have owners/links stripped.. disappointing indeed
that just feels incredibly... pointless?
It just means they are not a priority, not that no points are needed. You will need to allocate at least 1 to M4 if you want to get to N4
Okay, thank you
Dunno where youโre at into research but focus on exp gain first, then branch to wanted nodes
Exp gain is always the core
Yeah just unlocked the sushi to get more exp
Should i branch to more exp or spent 3 more points into extra observation rolls?
Top right quadrant of research is most important with the magnifiers, kscopes, and insight multi
K7, M8, N8, O8, M9 and M10 max first
L8 to L11 kinda important for exp too, after those you can think about raising observation rolls imo. You only need to unlock them once and at some point you don't need to attempt them for a long time
K9 and K10 too btw forgot those
Okay thanks, went from 100 - 600 exp today so still early. Might have to buy the jellofish at some point
Yeah as long as you don't unlock that many nodes before you get the exp ones maxed it's fine. It happens very easily that you softlock your grid and progress grinds to a halt
Yeah, saw some softlock sushi when it came out, might have to keep some points in reserve when i dont need it immediately
Will there be no ipdate after the event?
๐
is that good enough to move on to cave 2 ? or should I do cave 1 abit more
Check your Toolbox. It gives a bar chart for percentage of theoretical max. There are diminishing returns so just like alchemy set a threshold and move on
oh really didn't know that thanks 
What it will look like.
is there ant point in doing more that 5 deliveries of unstable req
Nightmare equinox for 7 deliveries.
ah cheers mate
No problem 
aight, i'm happy with that :D
guys is it possible to onyx/zenith these
yes
finally
remember to buy gold than onyx
All statues can be onyx/zenith'd
just need 10k and 1mil
lord
my b just chuckin numbers and being a part of it
20k then 1mil*
jeez, Im a cup half empty chill its been a while lmao
:/
way too much cz how tf am i supposed to get the coral and spelunky ones
Well theres no way to really farm them. so just pray and hope you'll get +1 every afk claim. it's all a mental game, lava wont admit it
stealth and essence though are pretty easy, at least imo.
I think it's time to start bringing heart potions..
is this one random
yeah those are easy to get im more conserned abt the other 2
it does nothing atm
wow that is even worse
It'll do something in part 3 probably
Insane name
If Lava hasnt forgotten about it by then~
ehh heart pots were added with part 2
seems like a rather reasonable expectation
the only think that's up in the air is if lava still exists
I wouldn't stress. It's just a matter of time. I've personally onyx'd spelunking and have golden coral. (for reference, I've got 2.54k Coral statues and 386k Spelunker statues)
His ultimate ploy to introduce his doppelganger
Yo @frozen hollow, just asking (as I'm preparing my discovery runs). Are you doing Lunarheim runs after getting all the GD from previous caves? Or you're just getting the early GD from each cave?
coral takes a while to zenith
does someone have an updated one of this?
I have gotten all in previous caves and none in future caves
I highly doubt my strategy of getting all 10 and moving to the next is optimal in any way
That's what I have so far, I can't decide which should I rush first x)
this is also outdated
Yeah true
getting the 10th took me 1-4 ish runs on each of the caves
*from 9
how soo??
I see! So I should try with the early caves then
ngl never knew it got an update for W7.
woahhh good luck on the grind wishing you all the besttt
you have always been able to enter w7 as db
it's just basically no one has the damage to do w7 stuff with db
i make it to lvl 53 on bravery, never seen a multi reward. anyone know the odds?
You too friend. Good luck
This is the one that I'm using, I think is the updated one
Yeah I just saw it in the DB guide page @sturdy obsidian I was astonished lmao
how can i increase artifact find chance? im at like <1% for sovereign artifacts
<1% is plenty chance
ok well looks like i need more charred bones
thats a lot
<0.01% is when you should be looking for more
1 in 3.6mil is when you should be looking for more lmao
so should i just be checking it super often?
you can't go past manta rays yet right
You should do sailing claims every hour
wow so many bonuses that ar ebasically useless to me yayyy
you get 10 full sailing claims per hour
I got all artifacts at a bit less than 20'000m artifact find chance
but I was also allegedly very lucky :D
literally nothing to put in the potential slots
do w6 quest for trophy
the pot npc?
im very confused by the colo/boss tech
i dont have 180 crops ๐
how to remove the spelunking 50% fee?
is the desc not very clear already?
๐ค ? what
you just click the boss thing or colo, place grave and walk to where they are spawning and they keep spawning there
what is colo
colosseum..
sorry i woke up like 5 mins ago
me with my potato farm ๐ญ
un neglect your crops
im working on it
cant even see a glassy...
but the only real farming speed is from farming itself
having medals with that crop count looks very uhhh wrong
lol
and ive neglected farming ever since i got to w6
medals not having innate lvl req sure is crazy
I think you have neglected everything tbh..
damn wtf how many hours is thisi
like talk to me here
im working on it
lava with w8 launch don't make w7 free like you did with w6 on w7 launch
good run
Luckier lad grind?
how many hours you got at nothing island?
like 16k
zamn
Free?
free as in absurdly easy to "complete"
I figured, I should have said more than one word.... are you talking about like kill-gate being fairly low?
what was it that really sped up getting through W6 though?
was it just Vault ?
Make w7 boss an account check. Like w4 troll, but they check ur account and 1 shot you if you fail the check.
fairly certain lava also made the kill gates easier
oh true he did d othat ye
but candies + making the kill gates easier made w6 like absurdly easy to prog through
i was just a wee plebian at W6 launch, had just started playing the game
took me 1 month just to get to W6, which at the time was pretty fast
There's honestly nothing inherently wrong with it being this easy to get to w7 but it just feels really wrong that a lot of accounts with basically no progression get there
Like no statues, no alchemy, no stamps...
I'd say that the main problem of that is the actual learning curve of the game
You donโt need new content if you didnโt play old content.
In that case, the old content is โnewโ.
yeah i think a big problem is not being able to see how these things really affect your account
and getting overwhelmed with new content without actually digesting the previous one
yeah vault made it very easy to skip mechanics and made mechanics basically get thrown at you one after another instead of you slowly learning one at a time
Iโd have to agree with Trink. The main issue is the lack of Game knowledge for a rusher
like there are no ingame tooltips or stat screens that show you how your stats are "built"
so seeing the significance of mechanics is very hard :\
Even myself, there are some features from the game that I still don't fully get (Breeding/Shinies being one of them xd)
i would agree, but the game is also bad at giving "game knowledge" to the player
the main issue if w7 becomes really easy to prog through is that you can't just point people to the review tool anymore as there'd now be 2 whole worlds of mechanics it doesn't cover
everything is like 3rd party
scoli come back we need you
is it better to do cave 1 or cave 2?
So people are going to need to learn the game by themselves? oh gasp
the auto review is the GOAT
Cave 2 ig? You can probably beat cave 3 boss pretty easily
I don't think anyone here will have a good answer for you, but we're in stam week so you can probably just experiment with no real downside
ggive me a way to defeat emperor without having to reset lvls 
More dmg
i don't want to waste the 1hr+ run i did on AC to max it
I think expecting someone who rushed to newest world to learn all the mechanics by themselves is basically telling them to quit the game due to just how much they do not know
oh okiee thanks guys, im jsut nnot sure wats hte most optimal way to do early spelunking xd
They will find out that rushing to the newest world perhaps wasnt the best idea
sure, but I'd rather have more players playing idleon than less players and throwing people into information overload deluxe is not the solution
wdym, ofc rushing is the optimal strat, the more features you have access to the faster your overall account will progress
also that
rushing is quite literally just better than not
the more features are only good if you know about said features and how to use them
you just have to ALSO not neglect the "older" stuff
Just push through caves until you cannot beat boss anymore, then you can raise your amber on previous caves
rushing while also doing other mechanics is better but vault and other updates have made it very easy to neglect everything up to w7
Thing is, as a new player I'd feel attractive of unlocking the new features as there is a lot of shit that is time-gated and you just want to get there asap (Research for example). But yeah, it comes with a price as the game has kinda 'complicated mechanics' and can feel very overwhelming
Hello everyone
I also partially think the vault is kind of a necessary evil because the game is imo bad before you get to w4
idk i look back to the time i spent actually actively farming for mats to upgrade gear to get over ACC and DEF thresholds pretty fun
but the game does transform at W4 probably for the better at W4
not much of them do this, frankly
ohhh okiee thankss
yeah post vault they become irrelevant in w1
until you hit the Salt lock, that was just pretty depressing
or well absurdly easy to attain
Imo youโre better unlocking everything so you donโt waste time on time gated features like research even if you donโt optimize them right away, then going back to optimize everything bit by bit, thoug you need to be ok with the fact you canโt optimize everything at the same time, but fixing reasonable short/mid term objectives is good
Yeah the research timegate is just absurd
w3 is I think the largest culprit of the game being bad pre w4
Like yes w3 is great (now) but when you unlock w3 it is just kind of nothing
Refinery is such a pain early on
gotta rework salt lick and prayers and it will stop feeling that way
w3 is where you get 3d printer after all
I did this (I started during giftmas event). Now working on previous content little by little, getting everything under control and up to proper w7 standards
What levels Fountain filler, water bending do i need for 0,1 sec?
yes
...?
Can't turn palette off for 100x speed at fountain tho
Just 35 more points 
I actually miss the times I had so much things to do in the game I knew I couldnโt do everything I wanted at the same time, it can feel kind of overwhelming but if you remember itโs just a solo game and itโs ok if you ยซย wasteย ยป time here and there itโs just good
Wish i could
you know what actually feels redundant
tasks and unlocks, its quite abandoned
yipee
the unlocks are but also it makes sense people are sitting on thousands, fairly certain lava said he wouldn't add any more after the last time he added new ones
but the actual merits and tasks have always been a feature added late into a worlds update cycle
I like that achievements are there but thats about it
whole merit shop couldve not existed and all that couldve been tied to achievements and it wouldve been fine
its like working in an office and having amenities but those all costing money to use, money that you earn there anyway, when it might as well be free utility
Was crazy when w7p2 + rest of the stuff unlocked, had to keep constantly jumping back and forth on all characters. Now that I caught up with all of those I can finally focus on hole stuff properly, like monuments, sanctum etc
yhea it's the struggle of catch up, i'm still catching up on some mechanics.
espescially clusters for me atm 
Is there a guide on how to get all rewards in the clamworks?
@_@
active DK 
Idk if I'm happy for you or sad that you spent that much time on that
I saw on the idleontoolbox that there is a +3% gallery bonus and a class exp multi. Both of these are quite good
it's not that bad when you have like 20k DR
Will give it a try for 1 night
It's really sad seeing 100k DR is easily doable nowadays
I remember when 20x was like super endgame
if i was on full DR with 45k DR you get like 2.5k card every kill, so not too bad. but ofc you need the DR before it's worth to go for
sadly almost all of that dr is from p2w
can i do this quest in the gambit cavern?
that much droprate feels like 5 years of royal egg monument or you just have mama trolls for breakfast or something
I got both droprate tome books and all I got is 1500
the summoning match lasting 5 minutes or more one
Probably
๐คทโโ๏ธ maybe, doesn't hurt to try
How do you get the multi one
I've been wondering about that
forbidden isles event shop some events
freak out on the event shop
Forbidden isle is the 3rd or 2nd one?
3rd
i hear that beans may be better for SB plunder now, but what respawn rate do you need?
lets go
๐ค does respawn rate like at all matter on sb??
I'm not gonna be able to do that easly being f2p
yeah not really worth it to go there as a f2p
it's one of the upgrades I'd say are worth trying to get but like unless you are sitting on a bunch of points and have most of the prior event shop upgrades that event it's not happening
the ones I'd consider actually worth are ( +20 atom max levels, tome droprate multi and the 12 hours of research from registering for the tournament)
thank god i managed it before points readjusted
gotta do your daily bosses and accumulate gems
tournament have been giving a lot of free gems too and I make a bunch from level up gift
but you definitely wont have much to buy first time you go in as stuff there cost 100-300 event points
atom and tome multi tend to be somewhat cheap for forbidden isles
but like just buy the pulls required to get guaranteed jackpot every event as f2p imo
Ishโฆ more mobs still means more plunderous mobs spawning
But thatโs why the question is โwhen is beans better than citringe?โ
I did get 6 upgrades this event since I bought 30 spins
I'm gonna need alooot of gem saving for those
Yeah but like doesn't sb's respawn basically respawn faster than you can realistically get respawn rate?
you eventually will as theres only so much stuff you can do with gems
They only spawn as long as you have skulls tho ๐คทโโ๏ธ
๐ค 20 bought spins per event should usually be enough to get the 50
which is always...
you have a bit of a startup when you initially enter the map but after that you have permanent skulls
if they respawn on its own it wont consume the coin which will mean getting to 100 faster to spawn a plunder mob
Well I did the extra 10 since the blue balls and tags were juicy this time
the main good tag is the 5 year non jackpot one
Yeah I only got 2 sadly
and like if you got a single jackpot last event this tag is kinda 
you get skulls pretty quick, that shouldnt be an issue
pretty sure I got more blue balls than I can use
and thats a sentence I never imagined but will remember
I think you don't even need extra respawn rate for them to be better. I noticed distance from character to furthest possible enemy matters too
๐ค but do you get respawn to be faster than the skull respawn
Now with the respawn rate adjustment you have stuff spawning in your attacks more
y'all, just look in previous conversations on dc and answer my dang question lmao
like idk, at most late you would get skulls after 1 min of getting in the map
i don't need to hear arguments about how SB works. just know when is beans better than citringe
where is dig?
real answer is no it doesnt matter
if it's better I'd imagine instantly
Now it's already better you don't need to do anything
never
lmaooo
i checked alr
type dig on pizza 1, there might not even be a new one today
there havent been a new dig for 3 days
damn
lava should really make them automatic with how often he forgets them
I think we all need a break after that stream with 0.12 gold ball multiplier
we need a new weekly update
lava got exhausted from no new income from cavern update 
I maybe worded it badly but I meant to say that in my opinion it is better right now and I stated some example reasons as to why
Did he do deal or no deal again?
lets just sleep a month and pretend it never happened
it was bold of him to not put any new pets whatsoever
All good, iโm just laughing about everyone in w7 chat giving their different opinions when previous messages i found on disc say โdepends on your respawn rateโ
i dont think respawn rate matters for sb anyway, you get skulls and be done, shrimple
indeed poor performance
It kind of shows that some people donโt even know what messages iโm referring to and just shared what they want
Ok but there are still better maps, you canโt just ignore the fact that size and number of mobs is important
then citringes it is
Any new research point investment cheat sheets?
๐ค I never made anything about what I "want" I've made like every message clear on that I am uncertain on if it is even matters
pins tier list
halfway trough
Yeah no worries, I've seen people say that as well but it's really better right away, just gets better the more respawn you have. Should even be able to see in a couple of minutes. You get noticeably more plunderous from the flag itself
but also grinding plunderous is lowk a waste of time when we're getting sb mc in a few months
once again begging for dedodated ram anyone got spare?
dedododo
go away
Is anyone doing bb in w7 yet
... what's bb?
most people are done with blood berserker kills
Db
no dont say blood berserker in big 26 to me
I MEANT DB
some are early w7 on db

95% gonna be tough
1B kills are like, easy idk
Atm have 4,5t dmg on wraith. Can just about give the doodlefish a little kiss, past that it's a wall haha
Yeah, seems like it may not be possible to farm effectively past like 3rd portal but wondering if it actually is
why is there no dig anymore
I understand no update, but dig
For sure, but the bones are insane if you can
last few digs havent been that good either
like 30 gifts? meh
Well just remember to stack kills out of wraith mode before turning it on
We might get an actual update for the "old" mc's during part 3 around when we get the next few mc's to let them actually do w7 stuff
Yeah its going to be like that for a hot minute lol
i cant seem to farm beyond doodlefish either
stonks
that is crazy
you did just hit that at like 1/100k huh
i dont know how but...
Anybody know how I can improve my damage? Im hitting 22 mil crystal damage on my AC thanks to bullets, cookies and the fountain, but im gonna need even more damage to push the last 2 showdowns i need for equinox
oh ty for remind me why i were beating emperor ass
like this is what I am sitting on with 206x perfecto chance
more statues/cluster farming
It took me like 20 minutes to beat showdown 97, the last 2 are gonna take absolutely forever
where see this
fountain helps abit ig
Im getting a couple hundred clusters whenever i leave my phone on while i sleep, and i think it goes for about 6 hours before crashing. Is that good or am i poor
I have like a 0.005% chance per pepper to hit it... (this is accounting for me having 64 59's)
well... idk what your dr is, but pretty low gains i suppose
Im at 235x DR
yea you kinda hit a wall in clusters then, what about statues themselves (notably feasty)
Im also pushing my AC a bit more to get my extra statues chance up
im about to bump this
If I farm at golems for a few days AFK, i should get enough to Zenith the dragon statue
Would that be a big enough boost?
Other than that, i think my early statues like speed and feasty are at 220 or 230
dw next update
new sushi upgrade that improves dr per sushi knowledge gained and also adds 50 new sushis
Ive got the helpful ones at zenith too
it wasnt that much... x.x
they better be not all bucks bonus knowledge again ๐ฅถ
