#endgame-chat-w7๐
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this number is made up but you have less than needed but it still rounds up to 1.8m
No need to wait for full stack of coins to get the crown.
you still want to wait for a full stack before harvesting
with a crown, yea definitely xD
maybe he doesnt have the engineer blueprint
always*
Crowns always appear in the first slot without a crown anyways
how do I unlock the marble ting boys
page 2
second page
they're practically free
if you got to crowns you can get all of the blueprints
how in tf
So does Turn and Push act as a filter or does reroll the currency into a different one
how yall speed running the fountain lol
how are yall so far ahead on fountain? ๐ค can only use 12 lanterns are yall popping watches
@lone kiln
Jesus
Generally the fact this chat has mostly w7 visitors in it
this is everything.
kepp pushing the fountain time down and sit infront of idleon the whole time lmao
I am as well, must've been doing it wrong
ah ic
so everyone here has just actively fountained since it came out? ๐ญ spamming water bender
I've slept since release but largely yes
Cant, event is active so no Gold Watches
Sounds right
Silver stopwatches however...
gwatch to use more lanterns and get more layers ๐ค
not the best run should have just quit when i saw my pots distribution but we take it i guess
Ah yes I finally hit 3 seconds active for fountain
It's pretty much the only way to get it to really move ๐
never getting the jackpot bruh
do silver watches work actively? if my water bender is say 15 m and I pop one is it ticking the afk time lrrrr
why is the spelunk full clear auto so energy inefficient man
how many marbles for this to drop down to 3 sec
I've hit it like 20 times now, getting normal year 5 was so much harder.
Imma just sit on fountain too should be easy tome points I guess
brah
2 more and upgrades is enough for 3s
i bought every day sitting on 3
agreed 5 was much harder
bad beat
just water bender is enough spoon? or the other one as well=
both
not worth using them now, right?
3sec? A lot, I'm barely at 5 sec, and I'm on 3rd Marble for Fountain, working on 3rd for Water Bending, and that might get me to 4sec
What levels you've got? I'm at 6 seconds and 5 seems far away, lol
Iโm gonna be at 3 soon
okay, there's a huge gap requirement. Makes sense.
Fountain filling is the one you wanna upgrade more then water bending
I am, as you can see
is there a way to boost marble speed as well btw?
Does the marble rate continue to work while offline? Is there any nerf to it?
Fountain Speed I hear effects it, that all I know of.
where is land rank optimizer
Fountain filling and water bending
AFK rates suck, like REALLY bad
afk rates 50x slower
what is this?
does anyone have the tower defense guide/ set up for W6 and W7? I don't have access to the channel from the guide in tips and tricks
sushi
yeah by the icon, but what about the text
go to sushi tab or whatever its called
you have to view all your sushies to let them level up
that is what that text is telling you
bonus tab
ohhh each sushi has a name
the best part is you get the knowledge buffs from them even if you never open the menu for it 
rip rank 49 thats what i get for not paying attention
he didnt even say Hi to each sushi...
just rude
welcome to the club ๐
i dont want to be here
what does this upgrade mean?
i didnt wanna be an honorary member i begged lava in email, it didnt work
big
@viscid raven i know you are retired, but are you still logging on to play occasionally? sorry for the ping if you are an angry duck.
And you can see all of them on the wiki
you pinged the titan
how do i get charred bones, arcane fragment, and the other one faster? i just started progressing my mc and collecting these is so goddamn slow
yum
Urr I did load up the game to see what the new cavern looked like but left again after like 5 minutes
but psyduck is my friend and i miss talking to them hahahaha
Whats actually meant with this?
Update Game To Play what got nuked 
it's the next currency that isn't in the game yet
future content
aaah thx
I'm still around
don't need me to play to talk to me
would you perchance check your dm? i asked you something there too
inb4 shadownerf --> minimum fountain time set to 2 mins
I believe we only know bugs have been patched so far
guess i'm not closing idleon for the time being lmao
what got nuked?
grinding levels again should be good. This is without even being in an exp setup
what is your xp from fountain??
do we have only 2 water types rnM
Nothing
And im barely even focusing it. Like im getting qqq coins now atp so i could pump this way up
Hey blicker howโs your fountain doing
Anyone manage to hit 2 sec yet
can we speed up marble gains?
Is that when a stack is full? Not sure what it means.
here rn for me, just woke up a bit ago
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i honestly think its another currency/bill thats not in the game yet
Makes sense.
Probably
Green water currency
Not obtainable yet
hows yours lookin?
Can someone explain wtf "Gem Shop" means? This is in context of DB Wraith Form
Why do people just go write "dig" in the channel for it? Do they think it'll just magically appear once they do ๐คฆ
use tomb and press gameshop
its where you spawn into the map if you open and close the gem shop
Wild tech, thank you 
and ST means stack up tumb outside masterclass for a bit like 20% duration
Whatโs the spot for bovine nowadays?
Oh yeah I know about Swaptech and all, I just never noticed the "Gem Shop" part on the W7 sheet
I already have W6 cleared on Wraith, just farming some bones for some daily upgrades and last time I did Minichief, it definitely didn't say "Gem Shop" so I didn't know exactly what to do 
doodlefish in shop platform
what increases the max lvl of east wind for sushi?
Okay so uh, what did Gem Shop do exactly? I was on the bottom, used grave, hit gem shop, exited, and it seems to be the exact same thing as just normally placing it on the bottom
your max level sushi
has this ever been availble to even vote on?
doodles is doable without prestack now if you have enough dmg, rate is really good there if you're one shotting but you gotta babysit a bit
Yes, we've had it at least once
ah alright. should I be utilizing east wind or pushing max then shiii
Tyvm, saved
yeah last year
We need remote sushi while we stand at the fountain, lol
well both lol
dang it, must've missed it.
i refuse to do these minigames i hate without it
is like a reenter the map if you place tomb in wrong place
Oh so gem shop doesn't do anything extra if I place it correctly?
Fr. Did all my stamps and other shenanigans there, ran out of things to do
no is just to place in the tp/gemshop spot
it's just a reference spot to drop it where you're less likely to leave the bottom portion of the map
No I get that, I just didn't understand the "Gem Shop" part of it
if you drop it elsewhere on bottom platform it's slightly more likely that your toon fucks off to the top
building coins kingdom xD
Oh wait it depends where you drop it horizontally on the same platform?
yeah
Ohhhhh okay
So Gem shop FIRST before tomb, they said the other way around, gotcha
Well that one grave got me enough anyway so next map regardless 
wait for their merit bonus
Yeah its crazy haha
I'm just maxing a few things I should have maxed sooner, like Tome Multi 
I mean we're like well ahead of where we were the last merit by default now, and merit is now 10x instead of 5.3x
I just did like 250-300 stones on each toon so I could keep buying discount upgrades daily
Very excited for that esp with the thousands of tokens I have now lol
Grabbed a 90 WP ac wep yest, I think 92 is my cap rn and 93 is possible for me
ffs, i dont wanna do this
is there a bug where you cant pickup lore scrolls from afk?
Do fountain coins accumulate if you donโt collect all on time? ๐ค
same bro, same. It shot up yesterday
yeah, kinda sucks
Bro same someone said top 10 is casual and im like HOW I play daily lmao
if u focus it, its casual
then idk what Iโm doing wrong ๐
yellow water is max ?
not focusing tome
do we have a guide for the coin game in the hole? ihave no clue what to do and i dont understand the stack of coins
how do i know which coin im getting in the cavern, is it random
is there any rumors about the upcoming masterclass ?
I lowkey am tho most of my tiers are blue not sure where to squeeze more pts
random unless you disable a type
no more guide makers, you are on your own now, good luck.
check IT and see
all i know is dk is spelunking
Lookin good
I would've thought the pirate would go into spelunking on theme if no other reason
we'll thats good
nah its confirmed, code ingame for dk masterclass being spelunking
Dang
anyone got a list of all the unlocks for the coin cave? is it worth try harding this lol?
dont have a list, but its worth the effort
at least pushing the buffs a lil, idk about sitting in the cave for the whole week
the bonuses are crazy, it's worth try harding
such as?...
everything
aswell as study rate multi, harp xp multi
massive class xp multi
class xp and dmg
This update is dumb strong
neat, kinda midgame stuff then?
midgame, endgame, early game
HARD endgame
game game
no, every part of the game
nothing yall have listed has been endgame tho
everything thats been listed is endgame
dmg multi and xp multi is cool for endgame
pushing some levels
Its the new #'s you can hit, that you couldnt before
You're funny...
good untill we find what was nerfed*
these 2 r the only 2 "non endgame" stuff
shrug, okay
I wasn't supposed to go over 100% in "double cluster" right?, I just throw 75m and got only 150 clusters
summoning and both monument multis
nah, always push
how can i boost villager xp
push that bad boy 
405% is the main goal
could go through this line by line and explain how most of the stat lines matter to everyone whether they early mid or late game
It stacks, every 100% is more clusters.
but its pretty obvious
how can i boost villager xp
when wisdom multi 
mainly statues
monuments and statues
not soon enough
You'd think, and yet we are forced to argue ๐
I wanna juice my rupies ๐
green gonna be wisdom, black water gonna be new monument 100%
many sources, mainly in Hole and statues
did you see the green water bonuses? heard they were in offtopic but couldn't see em there
so close
You mean I will keep getting only 2s till I reach 200%?๐
bubba is going to be insane if we get bubba in green water
why does it keep hitting wishes 
yeah, in off topic but bonuses werent there, im js assuming
im not flaming anyone, only thing that really helps an account thats done with orion/studying/sailing that you listed is the multis, and even then, theres nothing that boosting those would help a late gamer accomplish
bubba already feels kinda insane, gonna go nuts with more more haha
Just keep lvling and dont think to hard ๐
Anyawy to know how many coins i have so far ? xD
still haven't opened gifts or used my 50 pat
count
Done with endless content? How ๐ฎ
an amount
ain't nobody done with orion, dmg helps pushing emp, mining eff = way more atoms, bell ring/ping matters to endgamers who push hole, cooking speed is relevant to everyone still, bucket fill rate scales measurement bonuses which are still very relevant
orion is infinite, studying is infinite, sailing is infinite
an amount ?
He is clearly in W8 already and far past us peasents.
anyone got a clear server?

lowk such a weird rule
Like just let it exist in #endgame-gen-chat
Well that's right, after all this game has the worst RNG I've ever seen YET
Or the its RNG treats me anyway 
but yeah there ya go, for when it was, who it was by, and what it was
Do it
im so far behind lmao

just hit main now
how do i know how many villager statues ill get in an hour
good find, yeah there is bubba in there
you can push this so fast with the new orion buff
crazy lol
you'll get a lot
dw i js got a new MF and im resetting rn
spend a hour, see how many you get
how do you know
by doing it, literally.
because everyone gets a lot of them
okay i went afk
we only armchair theory here, no actually DOING stuff
level 500 on villager statue is rather free even without good droprate and maxxed statue drop multi
Next update will add Plato's Cave, its about staying afk in the cavern looking at shadows over the wall.
watching paint dry in idleon when?
whats ur mf?
now
im assuming you got the legend talent buff?
prob
what's your mf at?
i mean like, you got higher than lvl 3 on the bonuses
22
Just hit 23 this morning
damn what i'm 20, i gotta be missing smt massive
am lazy on these 2
damn im missing out on a lot, nice
I've been pushing the upgrade vault shit pretty hard since it came out
fair fair
curse you, i literally clicked once to feather restrart and white screened
i feel like theres a bit of an inbalance here ๐
lmaoooooo
This update dropped my time for 23 from like 37 days down to about 24h
until ur in the reseach lvl 60s, it will be
itll balance itself out later
its pretty normal
๐ค it looks fine to me
holy replies lol cheers for the confirmation lads
...
is there a point where i should stop for these killroy upgrades?
find the shadow nerf :D
how can i increase foraging speed?
js need a few more perfectos
Never!!!!
0.08x or 0.09x gallery
Ya well got removed, GG
What got removed?
my currency multi went up ๐
.09 removed ? dumped a 15k into
swap to a better foraging speed setup and use stronger pets
: )
What you get your speed to?
i have mine at 2m each, it requeres 6m that's not reachable
welp, you did just about all you could, gg i think. I think all thats left is to get stronger pets
that's a monument marbling 
what requires 6m?
wouldve been 8s while farming that but 6 now
foraging speed for
just copy the pets i have in each slot and see what you are at
under 10 seconds after a while
when we hitting 0s
Are there any buffs to masterclass currency per hour? That will let you earn 2 aethermoons for every hour, for instance.
you can get this easy without 6 mil
that is very much achievable
never :D
only the merit that just ended
we hitting it next week trust
damn bro
i see you havent marbled that twice
Bummer - ok, thanks.
ooo almost 3s :D
so pet setup works, k, good to know
you like 4 days late on 10x MC items per hour instead of 1
Each second is now epic, lol.
ohh right it doesnt go up by 1x, it goes .5, mb
put the same thing at the top under it and it should push 6b+
id probably be further but i have everything marbled to 3k
even moolah?
make sure you're checking bolaia
Even here xD
cheese 9 is empty in the hole, if u want to come then do so just stand in the midle
middle*
why 196?
lmao
thats half of mine breh
It will start displaying 3s once you get to <3.5s
I think the fountain is making marble also faster, how about you 5 sec guys?
Nice nice
I don't think it does, I think it might just be the study levelling up
source: It didn't change at <4s
worth??? 
But haven't stuck a timer on it to confirm that
whats this looking like for yall
one extra guranteed click why not
Yeah noticed same in other stuff, it's basic rounding rules in most places

i didnt check in on study, and its getting faster in my imagination from fountain alone
have been working on monuments 
one never knows if lava is rounding the display to roof, floor or just normal rounding 
Feel like im starting to stall out not sure what to work on now
but working on it now
hard to decide
The inconsistencies...
flag
but then I cant get gold square 
I mean it could be, would be easy to test if you're marbleizing the speed upgrades
not that it matters the buff is almost assuredly the "true" number
that block is nice because your last life puts in work for damage
time how long it takes to generate 10%, do the marbleize, time it again
GOLD
with rng you could potentially mark every mine with flag
see, its all good - what do I do 
What are people leveling to keep pushing? feel like im stalling out at Q
Whats worth using the marbelize on? Or any links to pinnen messages?
I think it's water bender making marble faster not the study
Water bending
the study changes the value in the marble upgrade to be bigger
marbleized those first...ill collect some coins for the fountain and check how quick 5% will load marble before and after
speed and multis honestly
should i buy a killroy reset?
whjats your mines/hr?
just keep cycling them?
not much else for it, just watch which multis are giving you the best returns
nah
for masterclass resource multi
im in minehead so I cant check atm, but its something like 170k
nah the study is for the speed, not the base value of marble you get
yes
Ty
I have seen people at bigger marble upgrade levels than me have more marble than me with less study
i was at 2 days ago
I'd jsut get the blocker then, last life blocker is super good, and the flags can potentuially do shit all in a run, whereas the blocker always works
do you guys do dk or db for warrior killroy
you'll farm up for the othewr fast
ik it depends sometimes
dk
yea the upgrade levels directly affect the marble you get. The study effects how often you get it
In which map is chapter 4 of spelunking?
starting to hit the slower grind wall stacks of coins aint enough for a few upgrades
for achivment, boss of '4th cave
I do not for a second think level 298 > 346 is ~30 marble and level 346 > 379 is >1k marble
I thought that this update would have more things to do tbh
or what hendo posted :D
Nice round level
so the study did increase the base then?
im also insane saveing my marble i prob should spend it on more coins but ohwell
Like do explain how marble bigger with same marble level
yup
here?
active is miles faster for marble
Bolaya
I was close 
interesting. So it does speed AND increases the base.
perfect for marshmellow
time to level this ig
pop a lantern and tell me you got a single marble ๐ญ
can an ''endgamer'' send me a sc of their stats
you spoon! send me a sc of your strongest little dude
I do not think the study at all affects speed
what u'r quest ? 4'th cave
let me see how close i am to leveling it
https://idleontoolbox.com?profile=foxspoonsandwi check this instead
but I'm like fake endgamer
I just have big sushi
17m->21m after leveling the study
im talking about these broski, which map is "Chapter Four" in
dirty lil endgamer 
Ooh, should see how well it does
cheers broski
you saving for the 256k rn? it was good but feels less impactful than I thought it would
before and after from leveling the study 1 level. Dope. So the study does increase base as well. Very nice
what is even the source of info saying the study increases speed..
there is non
it says it in the study
It doesn't
speeds based off fountain
well its hard to tell if the study affects the speed or not with how rapidly everything is upgraded and there no visible timer for marble. I just assumed so because production includes speed as well in it
higher=bigger not faster in my mind atleast
this almost definetly affects speed
nvm my dyslexic brain read that wrong so its purely off your water bender
because active gains are miles faster than afk gains
it is like absurdly obvious when using lanterns
AFK is so bad, went to sleep, woke up to almost nothing.
Like I got 1 maybe 2 marbles from all 12 lanterns on daily reset
im at 9 seconds but my water bender is at 42 x, then im guessing a lot comes from arcade
I can see the bar move every like 10s active
marble and the other upgrade matter
at 3 seconds active its 11 mins a marble bar
those... dont correlate
๐ค is this 3.4999s or 2.5000001s
ill time mine at 2 - do you have an exact time it takes for you rn?
yeah yeah, im saying for the last push, sure i can get it to like 6 seconds but then the last 2 coems from arcade
Does the sailing thingy increase artifact chance or just junk from the islands
only loot
im thinking its closer to the 3 i havent got alot of upgrades since i hit 3 seconds
Flags are interesting
last i checked was 11mins
upgrading the justice monument though is a fat upgrade to arti chance if you have the bonus
With this fountain level, marble charging 5% takes 67 seconds. Bolaia increases amount and not time if I understand correctly. Can someone with faster and slower fountain time check how long for marble to charge 5% takes?
flags turn it into mine sweeper
50.17 seconds
uhhh so i bought a point for Cosmo from the gem shop, put it into the new bonus, and it just ate my pt but doesnt show up??
I feel like scrooge mcduck
Not the way minesweeper flags worked at all but sure
and your fountain time? i guess foutnain makes marble faster
You unlocked it with that point
The flags are minesweeper numbers ๐คทโโ๏ธ
I had 1.99x Gallery multi, bought some Killroy, it procced, now I got this 
chip
2s, likely on the 2.49 side of 2s since it just ticked over an hour ago
Ahhh right, havent unlocked one in so long ive forgotten lol
no but it does the same job the numbers in minesweeper did
Hey so I was trying to find what the cap for Extra space & Taller Stacks but I can't seem to find who talked about the max for each
ah right, ty
the answer you are looking for is likely "yes"
?chip?
+10% gallery multi chip

how to increase more palette luck- gaming level/meriocracy ? any other boosts ?
Need to be gamer
I didnt even know that there was a gallery chip, wow
this is a wait for palette week moment :/
crowns and overall palette levels
so at 2.5 sec active fountain time, your marble fills up 5% about 17sec faster, which is pretty nice tbh
@sand birch so your at 2 seconds what level is your water bender and filler at for that and how much have you marbled
that's a lot of levels to increase, each one ~ 2-3 pt, 100-250 levels in gaming is a big no
bender at 199, marbleized to 256k, fountain at 469 marbleized to 22.5k
i need this to be a 1 in 1 chance

Told you, it's actual gamer stuff
I did have the bug happen to me yest so im a bit ahead still, some of my shit got rolled back tho
you really just need it to be 1/max stack size
as in 256k for next upgrade or you done the 256k upgrade
done the 256k
One more or not? 
ok cool i will have both marbled by end of today but my levels are lacking
๐ค can you not click where the flag is?
I literally just finished updating bronze coins for like an hour so those are freshly pushed
hmm? its not calculated based off of each coin is it? looks like its just based off the entire stack
I imagine it also chjecks its own tile
The flag itself can be bomb
really - just couldnt get some crown tiles? 
you have a chance to make a crown every time a coin is generated
so you in theory will get a crown every time you fill a stack if your chance is = to your max stack size
Hit the bomb ๐
everytime water fills up* so during overflow you can still get crowns
yea but thats 1 at a time. I see what you mean but essentially its just checking the stack 1 time each time a coin is generated
no reason to sit in overflow though
no there isnt but if your sleeping
the crowns the reason.. is it not 
no reason to sleep
better of making a new stack to let that fill up while generating a crown
I am missing these keychains for slab
Which Tier should i use to try get them ? anyone knows
@charred condor I checked and in exactly 3 minutes, my marble filled 10% if this helps you at all
yee non-crown claims are essentially a complete waste of time comparatively
worth to sit in overflow if you ahve none to claim
What should I put my points into?
bruh
theyre tier 2 up to the claw thingy, tier 3 afterwards up to the gold picle and the others are exclusives
i got bubba AND neon scale pet from new event
but if you have even 1 full stack with crown its better to claim since you might generate more crowns on your way back up restacking
it gave me the giant golden square
super research, then if you want max well but merit might be better 
Gz, pretty insane luck. I also got Mallay! Tho I already had it
I didn't see the research, oops.
dude please dont feel free to talk to me or reply or @ just leave me alone
it just is never better to sit in overflow waiting for crowns instead of just having stacks build up while waiting for crowns
you gain nothing by having overflow instead of generating a new stack of currency
a crown will never generate on top of another crown they do not get voided like that
the crowns generate in order from stack 1 to the last stack you have
nasty to hit a 1 in like 50k twice ๐ญ
be the bigger person
new bit please
This one has gotten real old
im with you on that
yeah so stop with it then
assuming you marble your stuff, crowns will always be better
Anyone here have all new crops done? endgame chat seems to be dead right now...
Offline?
https://idleon.wiki/wiki/Keychains for whoever was looking at slab @deep pagoda
sure having a crown is better than not having a crown but you do not lose crowns by claiming stuff early (early as in before it gets a crown)
so the strat for when you've got enough speed is to sit there and wait until a stack is full and the claim wether you get a crown or not
idk if im not fully awake yet or just dumb but im not really sure what you're trying to figure out
where i can put my point here ?
same experience here, I think he might be right but there's moving parts and brain is slow
what are the actual good things to upgrade now that the eggplant is done lmao
okay ty
Pfft
use the optimizer for to put points in just had to show the amogi
I'm only at 15sec active afk atm, is there some strat I should be doing?
where do i go to level up spelunking for the tutorial i cant figure it out
there's nothing to figure out ๐ญ
Crowns generate in a specific order, assuming last update didnt change that. When you claim a stack with a crown, it will target that crown before placing another down the line, then continue down the set line, every time you break that order, it will go back to whatever you picked up before continuing again
idk if that helps - but
the answer is just it is never better to sit in overflow
No active standing at the well
feel like that was already answered, theres a buff that gives a multi based off crowns being in the stack, so assuming you marble your stuff then crowns are always worth it
whats the small update for?
its not worth waiting for full crowns but crowns are worth getting
how long do i have to stand?
I'm certain that never isn't correct, but I think there's a threshold depending on your crown multi, your chance to get a crown and your stack size
you are still gaining crowns while outside of overflow
okay true
once your chance of crown is equal (or less) to stack size it is better to wait for crown
until you get some pages, don't remember the quest details :p
how did yall get it to sub 10 sec?

wdym some pages? im new to w7 lol
So, should i double marble this too or is it overkill considering it's still low level?
I think you're overcomplicating the system, just wait like 20-30 minutes then claim your stacks 
check afk info and make sure you have >5% efficency
Check afk info while standing there
I'm really not though ๐ค
you are just losing gains if you are waiting for a crown to spawn
ah ok it says i have 0 pages an hr
i agree AoD lazy grind
you're just not
it shouldnt take you till your max stack to gain crowns, if it does you need to work on upgrades
Need to swap to efficiency gear prayers cards etc
crowns get a nasty multi on them
just stand there active and you will get some
yet you are
overflow gains are less than the gains you would gain by building a new stack
building a new stack does not reduce the rate at which you get crowns so crowns are almost entirely irrelevant from this conversation as a whole
ok
Fountain drops off pretty quickly right? Like once you've bought all the available upgrades it becomes pretty marginal to keep active afking?
why are you so stuck on this overflow concept, you can get crowns at any point, its just RNG
nothing about crowns makes them get worse over time or less likely while your stacks are not full
no ones saying wait till all your piles are max stacked
is it worth it ? ๐
I have seen plenty of people suggesting not claiming stacks unless there is a crown on it
which implies all your stacks will be full somewhat often
when you have 10 or 100 (don't remember) you can read them and unlock some efficiency
well you claim each stack individually, they could mean that, but I wasnt here for those convos so cant say much on it
yummy
I don't think anyone is saying to only claim while every stack has a crown ๐ค like it's definetly manually claiming single stacks
it's just never better to have all stacks full*
*if your crown chance is equal to or higher than your max size stack it is better to wait
I just wait 20-30 like I said earlier and claim, thats typically high QQ mats so works for me 
dang, i gotta grind crystals now
Rip my well active time
I think hes right yo
If you're super active farming and sitting watching your coin stacks
Crown 
also crown multi is massive so stacks without crowns are like somewhat cosmetic so it doesn't matter after getting that multi decently large 
If you're just going AFK for 15 mins waiting between looking it doesn't matter at all tho, you just claim roughly enough full stacks so that you're full again when you check again
again idk where you keep getting the idea anyone in this current convo is saying to do this 
If I keep saying it the people in gen chat will eventually hear it 
Crown^2 
Lmao
๐ค 1^2 = 1
Crown uh.. whatever it would be
Scam
best bonuses to marble ?
lmao
speed > multis > the rest
i dont see the point in growing a whole extra stack just to crown it you might as well do a reset
oh this one is actually super important you should invest all your marble into actually :D
spoon someone will believe you....
and you know what
Where should I put my points?
that's their problem
Since you've probably worked it out and idlechat sucks at answering questions lol,
Do you have to be on the map for the marble bar or is the marble bar just slow/ is the marble bar affected by the on map multiplier upgrade?
been saving for this, hope its worth it 
marble bar is affected by water bender so being on map is faster
Ty sm!
so many good things. I think meritocracy might be the best, then villager, fountain speed, monument, summon
Stick to sushi bucko
600k.... prob not worth if ya havent done ya 256k on water bender and fill
I should go do my daily crystals
Merit > Well > Monument > Summoning > Villager imo 
but... my cooking speed 
do the 2 hour lanterns not affect the fountain?
they do
they do but at afk rates not active rate
Yoink
could of gotten more if ya individually stacked crowns jks ๐
leveling well feels terrible - every time
How are you guys at QQ? Ive used up all my lanters (day 2) and im reaching the first Ms
of course youre hard focusing that ๐. Youre the chef around here
Anyone else have issues with their stats changing? Idk if its only pets or what but it seems like Im constantly losing buffs, research exp, etc.
wiggle trophies on the gallery
visit your pets
Crowns are building ๐
Fountain is an active mechanic
so they probably farm it actively since yesterday
What bubbles should I focus on in order?
Oh also standing all day at the fountain
what in the world does 3 seconds take
get all to 90%
Though im not actively sitting there. Only visiting my PC like every 2-3 hours
basically it's like Sushi
Choices matter?
And of course lamp resource buff? Surely adds some gains
is the prehistoric set bonus 2x to w7 skills or +2x to w7 skills?
bc I feel like it didnt change my research exp much at all
chat how do people get to waves 220 even 230 and 240 when its literally taking me hours to go through wave 200 boss
equinox
... eesh
Fountain at 424, and water bender at 170. 24k marble on both
probably maxed Equinox bonus related to Tower DMG
maaaaaaan not the 24k 
I'm just chilling here with my 13x slower speed
or water bender if you are active
so there's a chance 
@charred condor I think sneaking overrated and should be removed from idleon - thoughts?
Light work, just spend 500 instas 
but im doing 4 attempts per insta
ah.. im seeing the issue 
Only 27k?
I still cant pull a sticker at 130m OG and its gonna drive me nuts
what does burger do
guys im having an issue with my super talents i recently reset my dk into a bubo and i had minus one in the whale but when i got to lv 800 and it came back to 0 but i got no super talents is there a way to fix it??
ngl that's actually crazy, catching up with ~1m og
everything, something n yet nothing
but whatever it is dont forget the 1.3x burger from sushi 26
finally dude
I believe this is the results of the most sinful thing you could ever do, remove a DK
i had 3 gng
shouldve made a 4th
I'd assume its just visual and while saying -1 you still had the proper count
me when I thought ac was better than dk 
it is tho?
you rly think so? For doing what
well it did show minus one
yeah
i think its more fun to play than dk
GOD DONT FAIL ME
I can get behind that sometimes it is fun to throw infinite axes
if your dudes lv 800, you should have uh.. 3 supes.. 4? idk do you have 3 or 4 
thatโs true actually. dk is boring and their respawn mechanic is slower/cds longer but it just outperforms. I hate it too I didnโt like them ๐ญ had to learn to
its +1 every 100lv after 500 so 800 should be 4
yeah everyone is over 800
classic idleon
Happened 3-4 times to me at dart 7-8, stopped trying for a while lmao
k thats what I thought but wasnt sure 
so is there a solution?
i should throw all my skulls into trying to get 3rd killroy fight right?
well how many supers does your AC have atm
should've prayed to lava instead
none
yay
missing the same one, sitting at .05%+ and feel like im being lied too
have you done a cloudsave to reset your character data with the server?
... oh.. shit
i did
yeah oh shit is right
yea its a pain
Not too sure on how to fix that unfortunately, have you tried opening w7 whale with that toon? im not really sure what that would do but ya never know 
made it to the 3 second club.... now 2 weeks for the 2 second club.
with what??
on that glitched toon, opening the whale UI
It Burgers
yeah opening whale and checking to see that you have the talent for super talents
i did...
unfortunate
first time hearing about this, no idea how to fix it 
its possible hitting lv900 will update it ๐คทโโ๏ธ
best suggestion I have then is try opening it from a different platform like the web version and see if the issue persists
omfg that will take sm time
lv 900 isnt bad suggestion either
ill try it rn
Can you take pic of talents showing you don't actually have any supers available?
WHAT
mannn am I bugging or is getting trap/soul cards hard
Noooooo I;ve been on last island all week SHET
Damn, that's actually awful. Tried changing talent preset? Any help from it?
i even reset my talents and stuff
well putting in work
mothing worked
wait did he fixs jars this patch?
Most Spore Caps held in Inventory at once, Trophies Found (huge source of points), Premium Hats Found, Total AFK Hours claimed (candy works for this but don't chase it too hard, Total Bubble LV (abuse infinite resource bubbles like grind time and the essence bubbles),
DPS Record on Shimmer Island, Post Office PO Boxes Earned (keep 100k+ pens on the Post Office so the atom consumes them passively if you don't wanna do orders actively), Orion and Poppy, oak copper fly etc.. samples, worship waves, non-duplicate goblin forest wave,
REFINERY RANK MY MAN WAHT THE HELL IS THIS >>>168<<< ?????, Shiny and Breedability levels, lab chips, all Sailing metrics, all Gaming metrics, God Rank, Opals, Resource Layers, Dawg Den, Monument metrics, Villager levels, Pure Memory Wisdom (ez points), all Farming metrics, all Summoning metrics, all spelunking metrics, Sushi to 50 at least but do 54, Glimbo and Button.
Non-exhaustive list of metrics you can extract ez points from. Total Bubble levels will be the main one, don't just rely on kruk for this. Also, and I have to stress this, WHERE ARE YOUR REFINERY RANKS?? You could get to 600+ points if you just stay on top of the first page + green salts.
Fucking... cavern white screen AS I'm clicking the rope....
maybe this is dumb but have you tried a stat reset potion?
it is just complete bs , i really wish this equinox dream wasnt locked behind such a dumb fk minigame
yup i tried it in fact
well hello there

I can finally one shot deckhand crystals, doing a little level push 
Printing this and putting on my wall. yea my refiner rank is bad cus of time hate I think. my acct was created August but I didnโt start actively playing until January and 1 month in October lmao
I'm pretty sure there was a tome comparison tool floating around at some point, it'll give you an even bigger overview. I think IT has something along these lines as well now?
I am finally checking salts every day tho tbh lmao it was just SO SLOW I neglected it but after getting some new pets, some arcade, etc. It finally started picking up
Bubble levels easily carried me from 10% to 5%, but they weren't the only thing. Trophies and nametags were also huge
Says itโs outdated ๐
got a suggestion on how to increase them quickly? I was thinking of just candying specific monster drops as I spam it with ahto loot off lol
Splendid.
our lil endgamer is growing up 
What's worse is that you OWN PANDA. This pet is gigabusted for refinery, it makes it so easy. There's really no excuse
Once red salts get to be 1h claims you can consider stopping the rank ups IF AND ONLY IF it would annoy you to stay on top of them every hour
stacking to the moon
I JUST GOT HIM ๐ญ๐ญ๐ญ๐ญ
Fountain is just so broken 
i'm proud of you postnapnap
do you know what started the issue?
im trying to compare it to other issues posted
it started when i reset one of my dks to a bubo
whats the card setup for infinite cranium cooking
Your account is gigajuiced with all the premium stuff, you could easily make high 5% or low 1% if you locked in. 10% is essentially a matter of time for you atp
someone posted about 2 months ago having the same problem but no solution sadly
hopefully getting to 900 will reset it
I got same problem too on my sb reset to dk
Cooking
yea I neglected a lot of the tedious stuff until recently ngl lmao like breeding? OHHHHH BROTHERRRR
Sadly haven't got a solution for us
oh thank you pancake from world renown from:pancake td guides ๐ซก
ill try thank you all smmm and im so sorry if i bothered anyone of you
do W7 upgrade stones get any less tedious to get
Hitting new supers gives you a point but the rest are stilll "gone"
Ur fine, dw
what do you all marbelize?
water bending then fountain first then multis
whats the card setup for infinite cranium cooking?
Breeding is kinda boring, ngl. Breedability is a pain to grind because it doesn't feel very fulfilling to do. But it's free points nonetheless. Most tome metrics are a chore to grind but the nametags aren't something you pass up on so you just gotta do it
what does F6 do
you should meet me in cheese (grommit) 20 so I can add you as a friend and send bonuses
hopefully the exp bonus will help
Buffs every The Button perk
Itโs also so much slower than shinies and idk why
im on the way
w1 town
closing in on 3s 
Shiny multi is easier to come by. And then the requirements for breedability are kinda brutal to fight against 
Hey guys do the button free skips stack up over time or do you have to use it before your weekly reset
What's your cost at?
I'ev got 2 right now. They stack
ah cool ty
2.5x both
yo dudes whats the best first upgrade to marbleize?
fountain speeds
im yallz smell
what is moolah stacks?
bet thanks
also how does marbleization work, is it always 500 marble or the price increases with every marbleization?
Hmm guess I should focus on the main fountain upgrade then
wow well really is just broken 
Just focus on both
the price does increase and some upgrades are mor expensive than others
3.5x? 
Who has a juiced royal chance?
oh I see, the price increases
thanks goat
Yeah they are only like 8 higher but 2 seconds lower
aiming to make this bonus much smaller soon
I think it's monuments that are more expensive than any other upgrade, base cost wise
what 6 foods do you guys usually use while farm late game?
And somebody claimed the sailing treasure isn't endgame. Bruh I was thinking this is sooooooo much gold
Thats insane, how are yours so high I'm at like 150-200B?
research + well buff
Apparently I have to wait almost an hour for a full coin claim
cakes, dumplings, golden grilled nomwhich at the very least. hampster if extra sailing is a priority.
wait @sour verge which fountain speed upgrade, the Water Bender one or thr Fountain Filling one?
really wish I had the week to farm this stuff up, but will take it 
Both 
Which well buff?
I am a little into world 7 what in general would push my damage to a higher level
sick all that for 2 levels into arctis
you gotta have that achievement right?
lmao what level is it at
The well in Cavern 16. Upgrade it and it's one of the first upgrades on the first page (right side) That you will get
got this from just claiming my afk characters
I see why he gave us a sailing treasure upgrade on the fountain
I'm so monged out I went to the first cave and was looking at the buckets like where is my upgrade 
1/82 seems so bad still
I need the third upgrade tier to give us bubba and research exp 
yeah im so glad I got all my ships to 400 and then lava adds the increased loot multi
is unending search better for loot
just like with the godshard gloves I grinded out all the purple lanterns and then we got the nametag for w6 kills
After water blender and fountaing filling marbleize lvl 1, what i should marbleize next?
๐คทโโ๏ธ
i think if you are past a certain amount of afk hours you want to use unending not sure
the moral of the story is to never grind anything
I play OSRS and it's well known saying "waiters win" because of this ๐
yeah real shit
abuse early and abuse often is my favorite saying
Yes!
Fellow scaper? No way
what about moral and ethical issues?
reset or nay? feel like could be better coins
Nay. Ratio wise, you got plenty in coins
Big nay, you've got coins and wishes both fairly solid.
odds would be against you
Does the bravery monument have a multi bonus?
someone already at E50+ ?
What level does it start offering it? I still haven't seen it yet
Think it's 60?
47 i think
Na I got it and never killed 60
47
yeah i get to 54ish and i've never seen it
really low chance to get it
Hmm why do I have the number 60 in my head. W/e, at least you got the answer haha
Yeah same for me when I managed 56 I got it twice in small sizes since I started doing daily runs to try hit it
i was spamming bravery every day to get it 
i only got it like 6-7 times
yeah I keep saving it up to a high multi but I might just start doing them daily to at least unlock it
Don't think it's a requirement but I probably had atleast 50k+ hours before finding it first time
if I get 1 level in it will the 100 per day special shop upgrade go into them as well?
yea more worth atp
You waited for bonus weeks I guess?
what r bonus weeks
How do you guys get 1 sec for fountain active?? I'm at 47 sec
I mean, when boost with the weekly votes
No clue, at 4 sec.. 1 sec is not near.
no didnt know thats a thing
IDT anyone is at 1 second yet
I just ticked over to 2s earlier today and it's still likely something like 2.45
I must've read the gullible writing on my ceiling :c
looks reasonable as long as you're not planning on doing harp shit or pushing bucket
im at 4 secs but ill be able to marvel it twice the next hours
lamp good tho
just realized fountain bonus was added to lamp
Pretty sure it's only like a 30% chance to see it once in a run if you clear to 60
@sand birch after marbleizing fountain and water bending, did you marbleize what made sense then go deeper into fountain and water bending?
That is sad ๐
Yup, basically this and rinse and repeat
speed -> multis -> speed -> multis, etc.
How are you so ahead (4 sec coins)?
He is a turbo end gamer I'm pretty sure
I mean I had the bug happen yest, that was a fair bit of progress, but also a pretty developed hole
W8 player for sure
Looks like you'll need about 61x water bending and 2m02s for 2 seconds
wait did that small update make us get less marble?
Doubt it let me check
"developed hole" 8^)
Like this helps, sharp notes on QQQ rn
When was the update?
Got lucky I was pushing bucket before this update came out
earlier today?
oh we're still on about the update that was >12 hours ago..
just how
well you saw what i posted earlier. Im a few hundred base marble less now
yeah ok wahat the fak
I'm reversed. Got e24-25 on harps but only qqq at bucket
lotta stuff
๐ I did the update before getting 21 study
hmm ok i need to go check then xDDD cause if there was a roll back i got my levels back from the afk time i spend xDDD s
i gotta wait like 8 more hours before i can reset my collectibles again for study, finally getting my 24k hours in bravery lmao
might as well go to 100k
you guys reset collectibles???
constantly
why???
getting 5k hours a day im good
I did before the patch for villager exp in case polonia got reset
gamble better collectible rng
turns out lava forgot to reset polonai 
he didnt forgot
to push buckets, to push harp, to push layers
like the gems from jar??
how negligble is this?
not neglible its its own multi
its scaling per level gets real bad at like 200 though
bruh how do you tell if you've turned your coins on or off lol, i just randomly stop gaining coins T_T
sadly it just levels up way too harshly so you wont be getting mroe than 60% from it
you can probably forget about it for a day and not lose much
its rng until you get the upgrade
T_T
then they are faded out at the top
they're greyed out
i dont have the upgrade so thats why i do see it woops
Work your way through the left upgrades
i do hope you guys are at least not neglecting your farming of the event boxes
what to marble first ?>
is there a guide for dummies on which enchantments to go for to push certain stuff?
oh my.... i actually am lmao
active speed
water bending
k thanks
no daily dig for 2 days, who needs boxes anymore
Going one coin/bill type at a time, with the boost, seems the only true efficient way to farm currencies.
Is it a bug that East wind stops proccing after about 25 chains? I don't see Lava ever mentioning it as intentional
has anyone figured out what makes marbel faster?
second page
change water and its the second upgrade
ohh shit i didnt even notices yesterday there was no dig
water bending
pjjj
thanks
ohhh*
is there a collectible guideline
rosemerald for bolaia
minecraft for monument afk
