endgame-chat-w7🐟

[faint mica]

ALMOST THERE

[obtuse zealot]

imma guess farming and hole

[sour verge]

Oh, have you got class exp shinies left to grind?

Also grindtime?

[viscid raven]

just do a justice run

[sour verge]

I'm genuinely grasping at straws for more sources

[ripe osprey]

more gloomie mushroom kills, justic and big brain time prayer

[faint mica]

class exp shinies?

[misty mountain]

You have class exp in advice fish too no?

[robust plume]

Wdym?

[obtuse zealot]

for sources of dr that youve not done

[weary shell]

while watching judge judy

[sinful mirage]

Could someone come to W2 Snake NPC Balloon 6 server and type Hi in front of it for me please?

[faint mica]

mighth ave to - was waiting on the ballot for it i have 130x multi rn on it

[sour verge]

stuff like this

[faint mica]

oh ya all my shines are 20

[viscid raven]

Can I watch judge rinder instead

[sour verge]

And that vault upgrade that gives class exp per amount of fish fished like that fella just suggested

[faint mica]

ok i think fish might do it ill try advice fish

[weary shell]

is he funny should i know judge rinder

[sour verge]

Wrong fish but there's also that

[robust plume]

I have all the crops, and my scientist multi is as high as I can reasonably get it with my current bones per hour. Not sure what to do in the hole to raise it other than monument

[obtuse zealot]

bro does not have all the crops

[ripe osprey]

the new crops?

[weary shell]

i was gonna say

[robust plume]

Are there more than 300?

[obtuse zealot]

and for hole its gloomie tiers and sanctums done

[sour verge]

this fish

[ripe osprey]

yeah there's like 30 more medal crops

[viscid raven]

damn, we're really reaching for sources now

[obtuse zealot]

im stuck there

[sour verge]

fr

[cloud estuary]

does auto use red pow pot?

[sour verge]

I guess we've covered God Ranks atp?

[faint mica]

got it fellas

[sour verge]

What did it?

[weary shell]

rings

[robust plume]

Alright ill try for some of the new medal crops, but other than that, any ideas on easy DR sources I might be missing?

[obtuse zealot]

neat

[faint mica]

advice fish, 2 rings, 5 starcardifier eamsy earl, and square on the attire

[viscid raven]

lemme borrow one of those 54's real quick

[faint mica]

brought me from like 115 --> 185

[obtuse zealot]

i got 2 51s, i got scammed maybe

[weary shell]

duck you dont have any 54's shame on you

[faint mica]

oh and swapping to lowest lvl char

[viscid raven]

it is still my least favourite system in the game

[sour verge]

idk what you've covered already but reliq tags, shiny pets, golden cakes, gold food effect for the cakes, cardset (the new dr card multis are insane), wisdom DR and wisdom bonus multi

[weary shell]

whats your highest sushi theres some decent bonuses there

[viscid raven]

50

[weary shell]

oh u gucci

[viscid raven]

not for rquinox I'm not

[little spire]

deposit all button when :-( or hold down I guess

[weary shell]

sushi bucks might block you at button tho

[robust plume]

https://idleontoolbox.com?profile=IdleJade

If you wouldnt mind taking a quick look.

[icy tundra]

getting one 54 shouldn't take long tbh

[crimson moat]

time to click 4k times on 10 characters

[sour verge]

Well that was quick

[viscid raven]

you're probably right

[little spire]

Yep. Well on some characters I am more up to date, mainly the ones that do Killroy I guess

[sour verge]

But you'd essentially look at whichever character you're trying to get DR on, scroll down and then click on the breakdown

[icy tundra]

when you are done with your chain you fuse under blue fire and it will be even faster

[remote iris]

mf 10 is it still 1-5 ?

[weary shell]

exotic chances equinox bonus coming in clutch rn

[obtuse zealot]

it doesnt change

[remote iris]

coo ty

[iron goblet]

do i click the flesh?

[obtuse zealot]

yes you hit 40

[sour verge]

So just do this:
Go to Characters
Select a character
Filter by stats
Scroll down to where you see Drop Rate.
Click on it. A side menu will open up with all the sources

[obtuse zealot]

fcb btw, looksk dumb

[iron goblet]

is 40 cap or good buff at it?

[icy tundra]

nah get a little more meat just in case

[crimson moat]

are we leveling dice luck now?

[robust plume]

I click copy link here, right?

[obtuse zealot]

XP
6
13
20
27
34
41
48

Kills
5
12
19
26
33
40
47

[crimson moat]

ah nvm thats coins im dumb

[obtuse zealot]

you cant feasibly hit 41

[viscid raven]

game is being shutdown confirmed

[obtuse zealot]

so megaflesh and go next

[icy tundra]

nah it's an event

[weary shell]

https://giphy.com/gifs/britishbakeoff-gbbo-bake-off-the-great-british-ZcuE24QlXP1bygMNQI

[icy tundra]

probably a crossover

[weary shell]

i hope we get sonic

[viscid raven]

Very topical, I like it

[icy tundra]

I hope it's locked behind research

[iron goblet]

probably have enough gifts for 42

[ripe osprey]

huge update! (10 more pets)

[candid horizon]

Announcement that there will be a world 10

in the next 10 years

[obtuse zealot]

bro did not fix sushi whitescreen

[weary shell]

have you tried being a better sushi chef

[obtuse zealot]

no ill try that now

[icy tundra]

a collab with mastercard so we can pay for our pets even faster

[native gorge]

you werent wrong. that was quick.

[viscid raven]

true, I hate when I have an absence seizure while making sushi and have to restart myself

[obtuse zealot]

lol misclickekd and got one

[candid horizon]

26? wtf

[obtuse zealot]

i dont use them

[weary shell]

lmao i actually get those occasionally. also no good at sushi irl

[obtuse zealot]

i haevnt touched sushi since likke a couple days from release

[weary shell]

i'm trying not to

[obtuse zealot]

im making some now for button

[icy tundra]

The last miltoast sloat is taunting me

[sour verge]

"Look at me, I'm absolutely terrible and yet you can't have me 😌 "

[weary shell]

sounds like my ex

[icy tundra]

that empty slot is so triggering

[upper karma]

as if the other clouds werent bad enough, wtf is this

[warm willow]

So… is this the right pattern for pushing sushi? Or did I just waste 10 minutes?

[native gorge]

at least im close. lol

[weary shell]

i got that one with 2 attempts

[sour verge]

Have you seen the level 6 tiny cog nightmare?

[upper karma]

yea.. that and the 500 first click mine are pretty bad

[weary shell]

that one is a meme

[upper karma]

being forced to throw mine game for almost 2 weeks is crazy

[icy tundra]

you just need a full line for your east wind chains
the rest doesnt matter

[sour verge]

500 first click mine is basically "you're gonna play this minigame whether you like it or not"

[icy tundra]

I just wanted my board to look pretty

[weary shell]

its kind of clever tho i find myself less pissed off when i hit mine first click i think well at least i'm working on equinox cloud

[hazy berry]

how is prefecto chance increace between sushi tiers?

[young knot]

Isnt there a new crystal farm for statues infographic now? I feel like I saw one and idr what chat it was. Im sure its mostly the same anyway

[viscid raven]

awful, I don't know a number but it is near impossible to get the highest ones

[icy tundra]

clamwork is pushed best on DK or AC?

[upper karma]

its impossible

[obtuse zealot]

@frozen hollow so am i supposed to try perfect the 50 sushi or which one

[weary shell]

tier 50 and 54 boost chance i got everything up to and including 39 perfectod

[frozen hollow]

I mean you can but like idk I don't think it matters 🤷‍♀️

[upper karma]

I've seen peeps say its 99% harder then the one before it, but idk

[obtuse zealot]

hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm

how would you set up my board

[warm willow]

Just one? Not two? I set up two thinking that’s what was needed…

[upper karma]

I've just spawned one of each and spammed lol

[weary shell]

i think 99%* per tier is a little steep that would quickly get out of hand

[frozen hollow]

that looks like enough 50's to hit perfecto on it I think I had about that many

[iron goblet]

dk

[frozen hollow]

I usually just try to hit the lowest I can perfecto

[obtuse zealot]

i can make some more but i guess i have to use some of the shitter tiers

[sour verge]

I had a 60% perfecto chance per IT for the tier 42 sushi. The tier 43 apparently is at 12.87%. If this is correct it decays super hard

[icy tundra]

My chain spans over two lines, but having as much lines as possible helps a lot

[frozen hollow]

at some point your chain will probably be around 3 full lines fyi

[carmine flume]

Need one of yall to give me 9 dart trophy bad

[weary shell]

i thought wind doesnt work that long

[carmine flume]

[frozen hollow]

it works up to -25

[warm willow]

I thought the method was to use one line to make the other and oscillate chains back and forth… is there a more compact method that doesn’t use an extra line?

[obtuse zealot]

ill make some more and then see how long it takes to hit a 50

[weary shell]

no thats it you need 2 plots of consecutive tiles to work with

[upper karma]

how could you miss out on this amazing view

[obtuse zealot]

oh wwo it fails at like early

[frozen hollow]

I am surprised none of the dreams ask for total perfectos

[frozen hollow]

lava chop chop make new nightmares

[sour verge]

[icy tundra]

yeah not really so just push sushis and unlock all the slots and you can start trolling like me when you have a few 54s

[frozen hollow]

just have one of it on the board
It's common enough to be basically guaranteed

[upper karma]

second round was a lil more disappointing

[obtuse zealot]

hmmmmmmmm i mainly want the money ones

[warm willow]

I think with how pain-in-the-ass some of the dreams can be, calling them nightmares from now on is pretty accurate. Like this one, this would indeed be a nightmare…

[upper karma]

That was a week ago, first time actually looking at pepper, and it was pretty much as far as I made it lol

[sour verge]

I haven't actively tried past the first few days, I gotta do a catch-all attempt at some point

[upper karma]

getting past 20 is annoying

[frozen hollow]

they are called nightmares

[upper karma]

ofc I dont have like 5-10 of a tier for better odds so that doesnt help

[frozen hollow]

I mean you passively build up peppers anyways so like it's so w/e

[jovial pike]

You should perfecto them all

[viscid raven]

for real, why hasn't he done that yet

[upper karma]

https://tenor.com/view/get-a-load-of-this-pointing-pointing-finger-car-wheel-gif-2572264087411888860

[icy tundra]

can't wait for equinox nightmare+ asking for 54 perfecto sushi

[jovial pike]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/444538236027797526/1391193269811019846/sketty.gif

[warm willow]

You mean 75?

[carmine flume]

AoDC need you go do my 9 dart trophy bad

[upper karma]

[meager pebble]

rift?

[icy tundra]

nah 67

[weary shell]

happens to me all the time. the ol pool spaghetti

[carmine flume]

You fr don’t have?

[viscid raven]

[warm willow]

Woe

[stoic isle]

What % success should i get before sending more upgrade attempts?

[carmine flume]

I thought you were like #11 in game or something

[upper karma]

I did dart week one and gave up on trophy

[icy tundra]

it's a lock because he is UNLOCKING the 11th character

[carmine flume]

Cap

[obtuse zealot]

oh bro is reminding me to do item runs fml

[warm willow]

Minimize that chance for failure.

[slender blaze]

I yolo’d it all on level up

[viscid raven]

what if hes unlocking our wallet

[carmine flume]

Eyo

[ripe osprey]

just send it

[crimson moat]

seems likely tbh

[upper karma]

need lava to let me have access to 11th for like 10 minutes so i can get this quest gstack already

[boreal lagoon]

It's a lock because bread tastes better than key 🧐

[obtuse zealot]

ok now i will make shitter tiers

[icy tundra]

I will be lobotomized about 11th character becuase I can't be lobotomized about chainsawman anymore

[viscid raven]

lava hate off for a second though the button and new equinox are really good updates to give people something to aim for

[strange tusk]

Jesus christ

[crimson moat]

im just thinking about all the gems that we'll get with a 11th character lvl up gift

[silent notch]

Anyone willing to take a few seconds out of their time to send me some friend bonusses? Pretty sure I havent refreshed those since W7 release

[elfin jetty]

So um why the fuck can I not get into w6 town without crashing???

[viscid raven]

try buying J3

[sour verge]

It'll at least stop people from complaining about not having anything to do after they speedrun new content in a matter of days

[strange tusk]

Genuinely amazing way to make us pay attention to all the shit we’ve been neglecting for forever

[icy tundra]

hard agree, OG equinox was pretty good when I started the game to be guided on what to do

[sour verge]

Update the game, he put out a hotfix for that issue

[elfin jetty]

😭 why is lava so shit bro

[weary shell]

i was in such a hurry to get extra w3 boss keys asap. who in their right mind would think i need to park a character here for the gstack

[elfin jetty]

I’m on iOS I won’t get the update for a month

[heady tusk]

should i go in

[sour verge]

Oh yeah you're cooked

[crimson moat]

im still doing old equinox

[slender blaze]

iOS patch dropped like an hour ago

So just update and world 6 should be fixed

[heady tusk]

how do you have 53 max

[crimson moat]

endless summoning

[heady tusk]

eh

[elfin jetty]

Love u bro

[viscid raven]

there's equinox tasks I still can't complete so people should be set for a good while

[obtuse zealot]

ok lets see

wait

[viscid raven]

go get an appointment with the erotic barber you too, @heady tusk book them a session

[obtuse zealot]

how tf do i get rrid of the shitter tiers without taking 200 years

[abstract depot]

what mob types should i use for new spices

[heady tusk]

wouldve sent a photo/gif related to that but i dont have a death wish

[gloomy current]

what the hell are you talking about???

[viscid raven]

https://tenor.com/view/oh-brother-this-guy-stinks-this-guy-stinks-spongebob-gif-12941826619780731259

[bright folio]

27 pepper shakers???? huh?

[gloomy current]

thats mean...

[formal fractal]

i have two ac's, will it still give the higher chance buff if i maxed it on the other ac so that my main ac where i do arcanist form can spare more skill points on pushing?

[obtuse zealot]

i didnt use them besides the first couple, just used likek 3 as well

[upper karma]

https://tenor.com/view/a4c712-dashera4c-nonchalant-gamer-i'm-speechless-speechless-gif-13022095084831385298

[gloomy current]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1386340860052111460/1452171239316521124/attachment-1.gif

[bright folio]

gotcha. Man thats insane to see

[ripe osprey]

I was looking at how much it would cost to buy every pack and all pets from pet mart, it's atleast $1,350 USD

[gloomy current]

wait they stack???

[obtuse zealot]

itll be crazy if i dont hit a 50 tho

[warm willow]

Is this the right pattern for ones on the edge like this?

[bright folio]

its hard but with that many tries back to back, i think you'll get it. I cant get it and ive been trying for over a week

[crimson moat]

you need more monocles my man

[warm willow]

Blue ones?

[crimson moat]

ye

[sour verge]

I'd check the reviewer but maybe the kscope on the last observation could help yield more exp?

[warm willow]

Why? Also how?

[crimson moat]

all your high level observations are lvl 1

[obtuse zealot]

4 min s

[warm willow]

Can’t put anything there yet

[sour verge]

You're not able to put anything here?

[warm willow]

Correct

[upper karma]

I wonder if its possible to buff camp fires enough for 100% blue, would be nice to use winds with fire active

[sour verge]

Wait huh why is that the case

[warm willow]

Need to level up first

[sour verge]

oh shit that's a thing? I've never noticed

[abstract depot]

What breeding pets should i use for w6/w7 pet battles

[charred condor]

So what am i forgetting that keeps the funeral flowers when going up a mastery? or is it only going down that removes them?

[heady tusk]

going down

[upper karma]

removes all flower buffs if you leave the mastery

so only leave when you're ready

[viscid raven]

[heady tusk]

i dont remember it resetting when you go up

[crimson moat]

my happy pig is carrying rn cus you can have 5 kaleidos buffing it

[mental fable]

to farm Coralcave Guardian card, is it better with AC or ES?

[icy tundra]

only when you change manually so when you go up it stays

[heady tusk]

whic hare the best 4 to use for now (i wanna farm amber)

[warm willow]

Meta is the same. Just need slightly bigger numbers and slightly more patience/luck

[icy tundra]

I did it afk

[ripe osprey]

u should use monocles on the observation before u move magnifying glasses there, get the observations u will move to to atleast like lvl 4-5, u will see a big research bonus

[sour verge]

AFK. But typically ES thanks to the wormhole.

[abstract depot]

whats the meta?

[viscid raven]

why are your potions so...brown

[worldly trellis]

4th and 7th 2 of each

[mental fable]

my afk is sooo slow, only getting around 100k cards with 7 characters around 40h afk each.

Is that normal...?

[viscid raven]

the CDR bubble and stamp are both big boosts if you haven't exalt/prisma'd them

[heady tusk]

i farted

[upper karma]

you're gonna get more xp from moving over, typically anyways (after leveling the ob on the left ofc)

[icy tundra]

it was also slow for me but trust me the grind is very much worth it

[heady tusk]

what about power

[crimson moat]

i know, just wanted to get to 60 asap

[upper karma]

it would help if you focused left side

[crimson moat]

im using optimizer its fine

[warm willow]

Truthfully don’t remember but if you made it to those you can use the same strat to get through them. I think there’s a pin on w4 chat or gen chat?

[upper karma]

ya this isnt tech shown by opti, but youre free to do as you please

[heady tusk]

which 4 potions do i use for power in spelunking

https://tenor.com/view/despicable-me-minions-banana-gif-20594374

[icy tundra]

the 12th one

[ripe osprey]

peepod, fastihop, defender, looter, reffiller, reffiller, might take a few tries depending on mob power

[upper karma]

heart/green/yellow stam/purple ig?

[heady tusk]

https://tenor.com/view/meg-griffin-gif-11209174700084768024

what is 450q x 100
im not flexing since i know theres better people in chat im genuinely curious

[heady tusk]

4.5qq?

[heady tusk]

i only have 4 slots 🤓

[obtuse zealot]

legit think ive whitescreened 3 times in the last hour

[ripe osprey]

ok so as u can see the potions are in a certain order

so use the first 4

[obtuse zealot]

ah

[obtuse nest]

what does insight do in the research skill?

[upper karma]

some users you are not some, unfortunate

[obtuse zealot]

im up to here now tho

[ripe osprey]

levels up observations so when u put a magnifying glass in that observation after leveling it u will get more research xp

[obtuse nest]

Thanks

[upper karma]

dam you and your RNG

[obtuse zealot]

is this even decent?

ive used 5 now

[heady tusk]

what does the next give

[upper karma]

you have over half done and still have 24 pepper, wdym is that decent

[cinder owl]

Can someone who has all (even side) w7 maps unlocked tell me if this uhh npc or whatever is in the game yet or no

[obtuse zealot]

ok based i will finish all now trrust

[cinder owl]

Okay thanks

[viscid raven]

this looks caverns related

[obtuse zealot]

-2

[ripe osprey]

that is an interesting looking fella that isn't in the game yet

[upper karma]

there a few things in FCB that havent been added

[upper karma]

the dino being another

[heady tusk]

and i just finished red sigils 😭

[cinder owl]

Yeah trying to figure out where what fits with what we have rn

[obtuse zealot]

@frozen hollow show perfectos lil bro

[ripe osprey]

wait til u see the purple sigils then green sigils

[candid horizon]

there is another after ethereal aswell

[heady tusk]

https://tenor.com/view/me-when-i-see-my-class-gif-15768348532634343334

[viscid raven]

@upper karma you know things, why has my auto-descend stopped auto-descending

[heady tusk]

when should i actually use this one

[ripe osprey]

i noticed this too when doing grand discovery it's weird

[viscid raven]

exactly what I'm doing

[warm willow]

It does that’s for a few floors after you get a grand discovery.

[upper karma]

if you get a GD it breaks auto

[viscid raven]

suffering from success

[ripe osprey]

weird

[upper karma]

unfortunately

[viscid raven]

oh well

9/10 on second cave now, got the GD chance minehead so its time to push

[delicate otter]

Bro... I did just almost enough clicking by now...

[ripe osprey]

51 more

[obtuse zealot]

yo these are becoming insane

none on 50 yet

[ripe osprey]

u can try turning off palette for rat king crowns might help

[warm willow]

I think lava tried to code something to have it pause with a bit of fanfare, so you see it and have to acknowledge it, like how he did with medallions and prisma bubbles for MCs, and botched the code a bit. That’s my headcannon anyway…

[delicate otter]

I'm recently became fast enough that the difference is not that big.

[misty mountain]

It’ll always be 100x faster

[cloud estuary]

does crop stage of crown affect crown chance?

[warm willow]

When you get faster, they tier up much quicker. Much MUCH quicker. And higher tier plants have higher crown chance

[obtuse zealot]

even just setting up for the perfectos trakes awhile

[ripe osprey]

i don't know what ur trying to ask, highter tier gaming plants have higher crown chance?

[clever flint]

damn unstable reliquarium scales so hard, I cant get the 4th one yet

[cloud estuary]

yeah misnamed the plant, was supposed to be Royale plant i guess

[heady tusk]

when's the best time to use this potion?

[delicate otter]

No? There's a minimal limit on plant respawn and there's a limit on evolution. But yeah i guess white crows would spawn already like 2 tiers higher on white so its would be around 2-3 times faster or something along those lines.

[warm willow]

Yes. Stage 1 crown is about the chance the rat king shows you. It’s more likely at higher stages.

[obtuse zealot]

whats giving me free shakers

o

[clever flint]

Depnds on how many you bring, but usually around last or second last character I believe, depends if youre early or late game spelunking though

[wild zodiac]

yo, whats the grand discovery elixr meta ?

[obtuse zealot]

lowk i dont thinkk im hitting 50 lol

[cloud estuary]

is that something some1 has just scienced or is there somewhere in-game that this is stated?

[warm willow]

Unless everything is instantaneously spawning as max tier plants, it’s a big difference, even though after a point it may not feel like it.

[heady tusk]

im here

[brittle lava]

do i use the same setup at the bottom one?

[clever flint]

Dont use that potion then, shadow strike potion is better

[heady tusk]

https://tenor.com/view/me-when-i-see-my-class-gif-15768348532634343334

[clever flint]

push for a 5th potion slot whenever you can as well

[heady tusk]

makes sense since my stamina is lower than 3000 or wtv is "required"

[warm willow]

I’m sure both, but i can’t cite any sources. I remember lava saying it on stream. And im sure insight, toolbox, or efficiency have something for you to see it exactly.

[clever flint]

Yeah that amber potion outscales the other one once you have heaps of stamina to use in a run, otherwise early on your shadow strike chance is fairly low and so that potion helps boost it up, run 1 shadow 3 of the blue amber boost pot

[warm willow]

And specifically since the final few evolutions are all 100x rarer than the last, on average you’ll be getting plants of at least one higher tier.

[charred condor]

dotnt think i should be pushing m7 yet lmao

[viscid raven]

three of them are extra sneaky though

they can probably push M7

[ripe osprey]

39000x wow ur ninja stealth is ass

[charred condor]

yes

im using charms and equip from m4 lmao

[ripe osprey]

never seen 4 digits of that bonus before lol

[obtuse zealot]

OH I SHOULDVE BEEN USING SALT TO TIER UP MY SUSHI

No one even commented this btw

[warm willow]

Is that not what salt does?

[charred condor]

it messes up your eastwind thats why

[obtuse zealot]

all good

[obtuse zealot]

brobro no i was combining for perfectos

[ripe osprey]

not really

[obtuse zealot]

well i guess i kknow now

[warm willow]

Negligibly. It’s not really a consideration imo…

[upper karma]

regret reducing mine counts by so much, cycling for 1 click bombs is a terribly slow experience

[delicate otter]

Yes but the thing is 1 tier higher crowns are realisticly very marginally higher chance than previous tier. Especially if its like tier 5-7 already

[ripe osprey]

i cant react with a no lol but it doesn't affect east wind much

[sullen sparrow]

Blickter is so sigma

[obtuse zealot]

thats snapshotted at rams/frogs

[upper karma]

its been a month, shouldve known by now

[obtuse zealot]

i forgor

[warm willow]

If it’s not already t7, then it’s more than one tier higher on average. And speed has the opposite of diminishing returns. It’s more valuable the more you already have. Same with the chance increase from evos.

[obtuse zealot]

oh wait

[sour verge]

LMAO

[obtuse zealot]

neat

[ripe osprey]

i think there's like 10 gaming plant tiers now

[obtuse zealot]

not neat

got up to 36, i think i clicked 2 more for no reason

[sullen sparrow]

I have 5 points what am I missing thats good

[ripe osprey]

yellow legend talents/brown

[obtuse zealot]

before

[warm willow]

That one right there is pretty important.

[ripe osprey]

yeah max that one over there

[obtuse zealot]

lol

[delicate otter]

No it doesn. It has exactly diminishing reutrns as far as i know. Tiers of crown are not multiplicative i think and linear, so improving crowns of t6 to crowns of t7 gives you like ... 15% efficency or something for 100x speed. Those are quite diminshed returns.

[crimson moat]

https://tenor.com/view/vaguepost-vague-vaguepost-king-no-context-gif-1467184735939411945

[river kraken]

https://idleontoolbox.com?profile=Froskk yo can anybody help me squeeze out 1.5x class exp from somewhere?

[waxen kernel]

this sushi shi is giving me scoliosis i swear to god its been the worst day ever (i unlocked it today)

[upper karma]

shet I keep forgetting to check equinox for upgrades

[ripe osprey]

sushi sucks man, but u gotta do it unfortunately

[delicate otter]

How rarer is t10 plants to t9 plants?

[ripe osprey]

doesn't work u need to make ur profile public

[upper karma]

salts nice and annoying at the same time, ruins wind setup

[clever flint]

The randomly placed hot slots are frying me

[river kraken]

my bad, i updated settings now

[obtuse zealot]

it did not level a single t50

[shut pilot]

trying to do annihilation on moonmoons has got to be ragebait

[clever flint]

Read the duperbit

[heady tusk]

im rich but im broke

[obtuse zealot]

up to here now

[civic vine]

Is this good placement for my shapes?

[crimson moat]

stuck on tysons still

[obtuse zealot]

no

[ripe osprey]

@river kraken on ur lowest lvl char right?

[shut pilot]

rip, I got that one a bit ago

[obtuse zealot]

diamond on kscopes good

[river kraken]

nah for button - i was on 4th char but any can work

[shut pilot]

Im close to moonmoons trust, maybe I should actually put on respawn gear >->

[warm willow]

Linear increase in %chance is not linear growth, each increase removes proportionally more of the failure chance. Just like linear increase in additive %bonus is not linear overall, because each increment is a smaller and smaller portion of the existing bonus.

[ripe osprey]

yeah u need to use ur lowest lvl char for button probably ur vman

lowest lvl char gets a class xp bonus from vault or somethin

[river kraken]

ohhh

[shut pilot]

why do u need that xp bonus?

[delicate otter]

I mean i need to read two superbits and divide for this Too hard. Reading is already hard enough.
Is it only 40x ?

[ripe osprey]

for button, there are quite a few that require a certain class xp

[warm willow]

Get the new pet in the store

[ripe osprey]

button #205 or something needs x163t class xp

[waxen kernel]

i cant be bothered rn, even since they dont help at all since im actively doing it and getting more and more bucks constantly

[near ruin]

Thats very small to nowadays class exp

[shut pilot]

aah fair

[delicate otter]

Let me iiiiinn.

[rapid lava]

Never

[ripe osprey]

@river kraken do u have this?

[delicate otter]

What is this even

[river kraken]

nah but i just realised i was in emporer set instead of the w7 one

[delicate otter]

Oh wow

[river kraken]

thanks for looking @ripe osprey !

[ripe osprey]

put 2 of these on too in tab 2

np

[charred condor]

wc lmao

[ripe osprey]

@river kraken pls update ur gold food

[halcyon island]

30+ equinox nightmares definitely get tough

[sullen sparrow]

What Class EXP are you guys at?

[halcyon island]

430T-ish

[cloud estuary]

200T fully setup

[obtuse zealot]

with nothing set up, couple 100t

[river kraken]

good shout. i was also looking for things to active AFK, any ideas?

[merry lichen]

how do i start unlocking jewleed cogs? i already have the upgrade in gaming

[obtuse zealot]

need a good monument week so i can spam my laterns tho

[shut pilot]

Collect ur ulti cogs when theyre above 5

(I think?)

[viscid raven]

sure glad he added a toggle

[obtuse zealot]

yea probably

[mortal trellis]

buy it

[obtuse zealot]

the toggle doesnt work

idek why its a thing

[merry lichen]

ohh alr ty

[viscid raven]

I'll send you my steam so you can gift it to me instead buddy pal

[mortal trellis]

the trick is, there's always a new pack being rotated in

[warm willow]

The general rule of thumb is that a linear, additive, percent-based INCREASE in something has diminishing returns. While a linear, additive, percent-based DECREASE is the inverse. If speed directly affected the number of plants you got per hour, then it would have diminishing returns. But since it affects the DECREASES the interval between growth ticks, the inverse is true. Which is also why it feels like a huge breakthrough when you finally get enough.

[sullen sparrow]

Whats giving so much class xp God rank?

[warm willow]

Elesorc talent

And account multis, probably

[barren crescent]

need some help guys what is “Non stop studies”??

[sullen sparrow]

which talent?

[heady tusk]

wow

[boreal raptor]

You haven’t unlocked it yet. Research related equinox bonus

[barren crescent]

ohhhhh shoot ok

[boreal raptor]

You get it from the depth charge nightmare you have.

[ripe osprey]

need to get ur droprate up to like atleast 2k on dk so u can do beans and get a decent amount of zenith, u can active afk clam maybe need to get to 8 for equinox, or active afk ac

do some bubbles

[river kraken]

nice, thank you!

[ripe osprey]

u can do A TON of stamps

like an actual ton

[heady tusk]

man this shit always happens

[river kraken]

i just did a ton of them lmao. just not the equipment

[sullen sparrow]

active clams is good with DR?

[ripe osprey]

wdym dr, drop rate?

[delicate otter]

The problem is not what speed gives. The problem is what you actually gain from what it gives. And you gain like a few crown tiers if even that. And crown tiers seemingly have diminishing returns. AND also have limit AND also have have large gaps between tiers.

[sullen sparrow]

yeah high dr helps?

[ripe osprey]

have u used autoreview yet?

[ashen scarab]

hey uhhh question: Im on red amber and doing the snootie questline, but need blue amber. am I screwed?

[river kraken]

yeah, i can take another look though. most stuff apart from bubbles seemed pretty ok

[ripe osprey]

maybe a little idk i doubt it does much

[dark karma]

Had that happen to me recently, feels fkn bad.

[heady tusk]

whats under this

[obtuse zealot]

@frozen hollow

what tier u spam?

[ripe osprey]

drop rate

[soft hollow]

wtf is this requirement

[heady tusk]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1478875531788419213/1480633590734917632/spongebob.gif

[viscid raven]

a skill based requirement

[viscid raven]

2 caves down

[ripe osprey]

https://giphy.com/gifs/cat-dark-deep-3T7WB64PW315Z8zhRg

wait til u see #209

[soft hollow]

Is the skill hit yourself in the head until you start enjoying that skill

[soft hollow]

I'll never get there lol

[frozen hollow]

43 I think? I haven't spammed in a while

[obtuse zealot]

what the

[viscid raven]

you were supposed to pick a team in W5 and commit to it

[ripe osprey]

u just pray get lucky on instas

[obtuse zealot]

34 or 43

[frozen hollow]

34 :)

[obtuse zealot]

ty

[frozen hollow]

maybe let me count in a moment

[soft hollow]

I guess I picked slacking

[icy tundra]

that might be stupid but for frog dk it's the squire boomerang or the dk boomerang that needs to be 425

[iron goblet]

dk

[icy tundra]

thanks

[warm willow]

That’s what I’m saying, the crown tiers and speed are both the opposite of diminishing, I’m in awe that anyone on this server could think a 100x multi to ANYTHING could possibly be minor. Test it for yourself on paper. As a thought experiment. Make up an arbitrary number of harvests per hour, and apply the rates as you see them in whichever tool you use, and see the difference in the statistical average amount of time it takes you to get a crown. When you’re tapping away on the harvest all button, it feels like there’s hardly a difference, but that’s only a feeling. A 6% increase in… say Wisdom, is VERY VERY different from a 6% increase in percent chance you ‘hit’ during a roll.

[frozen hollow]

I can spam 35's rn

[supple tapir]

Hi noobs

[ripe osprey]

sorry

[obtuse zealot]

breh

[warm willow]

Tf you mean “sorry?”

[obtuse zealot]

show

[warm willow]

The hell was that!?

[ripe osprey]

LOL

[supple tapir]

What was it i didnt see

[ripe osprey]

i had the urge i couldn't resist

[ripe osprey]

u sure u want to see it

[supple tapir]

Yes

[warm willow]

Pm it to him

[warm willow]

Pi

[icy tundra]

bruh I'm hardly going over 150B

you truelly are the sushi madman

[frozen hollow]

psy should have more than me

psy has 72 54's

[ripe osprey]

thats not a good thing

sushi station sucks

[frozen hollow]

you know what sucks even more

not having sushi 60 yet

[frozen hollow]

actually ig it depends on if psy has used bucks and done perfectos

[viscid raven]

hoarders I tell you, hoarders

[ripe osprey]

but whats the point lol

[icy tundra]

I'm hardstuck sushi 57 until I get that last milktoast slot

[frozen hollow]

not you psy

[gloomy mist]

guys whats the better melee class to use for killroy fights ?

[viscid raven]

I know

[shell condor]

Is glunko the only spectacular pet

[icy tundra]

DK

[gloomy mist]

k thanks

[icy tundra]

turnament pets are spectacular

[viscid raven]

we'll get a new one next week don't worry

[shell condor]

Yipe

[delicate otter]

"100x multi to ANYTHING could possibly be minor"

We have insane ammount of things that have extremely minor 100x multis. Like well. Bits themselves. Extra x100 multi barely moves you to next duper bit.

And once again there's a limit ot how fast plants can grow. If they would really respawn in like Checks the picture litterally fcking 0 seconds. And i could have gathered them instantly. It would be just amazing. But now the time for crops to actually pop up on the screen and play gathering anmiation is literally a hundred times longer than actual growth rate. So all this speed is just straight up wasted. The only thing it affects are instant evolutions of plants which give you a few plant tiers and thats it. and the further it goes the less it will give you. There's almost no difference between plant growth speed of like 0.01 and plant growth speed of 0.001.

[shell condor]

The. I can trade my glunko for the new spectacular pet

[ripe osprey]

holy this guy wrote a novel

[shell condor]

I ain't reading all that

[delicate otter]

I literally responding to the post that almost just as long

[shell condor]

MB I didn't read that one either

[stiff torrent]

yo guys is there no trade channel anymore for pets?

[frozen hollow]

ehh the respawn speed is still acounted for even without the speed as it just grows with more tiers on it already

[frozen hollow]

#pet-trades

[shell condor]

#pet-trades

[stiff torrent]

thanks 😄

[delicate otter]

Yep, its just tiers do not give as much value as just extra plants generally. And they diminish quite fast. You need obscene ammounts of speed to make your plants instantly respawn 1 tier higher consistently.

[strong parrot]

Anyone know the issue where I cant use spelunking. Everything ive done and my efficiency is at 12% give me a 0% chance.

[frozen hollow]

upgrade your multitool stamp

boom!
(the wrong one)

[icy tundra]

called it

[frozen hollow]

I need the new ships...

[ripe osprey]

and this prayer

[robust egret]

the chem sprout looks like the mushroom variant, my equinox 🙁

[warm willow]

A specific illustration of linear increase to chance being somewhat exponential is if you have a 1% chance for success and you add 0.1%. You’ve barely changed it at all, removing only about one percent of all possible failures. But if you have a 99% chance of success and add 0.1%, then you’ve made a massive impact, removing 10% of all possible failures. The reason for this is because with percent chances, all increase converge towards 100%(1.00) Which is the opposite of increases to static values like stats, where any increase diverges away from the base (1.00).

[obtuse zealot]

balls

[ripe osprey]

holy yappers

just turn pallette off man

[icy tundra]

what's the fix for stuck slot on characters already?

[young wind]

Yo guys can someone tell how to properly do shushi tech I am doing it but my sushi doesn't upgrade some times

[frozen hollow]

go slower

[ripe osprey]

thts bc ur animation cancelling, u have to wait until the whole animation goes through

[weary shell]

this was thoughtful thanks for that

[frozen hollow]

if you touch a sushi before it finishes it stops

[sour verge]

So after all this time, have the sushi experts reached a conclusion on whether this is worth it? As in, does it work and is the effect ever noticeable except for the very highest sushi tier? Does this proc on each East Wind cascade?

[weary shell]

junk

[frozen hollow]

it's useless late

[warm willow]

The crops grow behind the scenes, even when you can’t yet see that they’ve spawned. they will appear as a higher tier when they do.

[sour verge]

Dang. So I'm just wasting bucks then

[strong parrot]

Thanks looking into that

[strong parrot]

Thanks looking into that too

[ripe osprey]

its probably useful for u rn seeing how many bucks u have

[weary shell]

i never noticed it do anything useful ever

[delicate otter]

Well speed does not work like this at all
If we take next evo of the plant like 20x rarer. And evolution. at 20% to evolve per cycle. We need 5x20=100x speed to more or less consistently raise our respawned plant tier instantly. This is ridiculous. You gain litearally +1 tier for switching the palette.

Thats asuming we are going from t1 to t2. Next will not need to account for evo chance

[ripe osprey]

once u get to e26+ it doesn't seem to do much

[frozen hollow]

so it only gives that base sushis bucks/hr which is like in theory usefull when progging because it just gives a decent injection but it's also missing some multiplier (likely slot and campfire) so it just doesn't do much even though in theory it should be nice while progging

[sour verge]

I need to see if East Wind cascades proc this in any way because otherwise I don't think I'll ever notice it since I only spam T23s/T24s for East Winds

[frozen hollow]

it does proc on merges I believe

either way it is missing something from the calc to be usefull

[sour verge]

Okay I shall see if it's any noticeable and draw my own conclusion atp in time.

[warm willow]

Speed is the interval between growths. An increase to speed converges that interval towards 0, and is therefore exponential.

[frozen hollow]

mein gott you need exponentially more speed for the next tier to get any bonus thus it is offset by this to not be exponential

[warm willow]

And “literally one tier” is also HIGHLY impactful.

[ripe osprey]

https://giphy.com/gifs/RespectiveCollective-creepy-yelling-nagging-p1HEDc1hXf9et0AyUc

[strong parrot]

This one didnt work

[lucid wind]

Is this taking so long basically lava saying "hey, gotta actually use ladles now"?

[ripe osprey]

is it max lvl (or close)

[sour verge]

Ok just did an entire row of East Wind from T24->T37 and couldn't see any noticeable increases in bucks that couldn't just be ascribed to highest tier + green bonfire.

[delicate otter]

No? Its like at best 2x efficiency in finding crowns or something for losing palette progression and bit progression.

[sour verge]

So yea you're pretty much correct Spoon

[mortal trellis]

merge those suckas

[pastel reef]

Can anyone help me with the say hi to the snake quest?

[warm willow]

You need exponentially less speed for the same benefit. Lava accounts for this by making tiers exponentially rarer. It’s self-evident.

[sour verge]

Also perhaps "Hey gotta wait for future cooking speed bonuses I introduce with new content".

[ripe osprey]

takes exponentially so much more cooking speed

[warm willow]

Bit progression is faster with palette disabled.

[frozen hollow]

I believe the ladle setup is the same as the spelunking one

[delicate otter]

Hahaha, no.

[frozen hollow]

not really
There's just the one big jump at 110 or wherever it was

[ripe osprey]

like the difference is crazy

[warm willow]

For the exact same reason. Higher tier plants are worth more bits.

[delicate otter]

You gain 99% of all bits from using chem plants

[lucid wind]

I just wanna actually make good cooking progress

[ripe osprey]

u kinda hit that softcap thoughh like it went from e89ish to e140ish in a few meal levels

[frozen hollow]

none of these jumps are higher than you'd expect

[ripe osprey]

idk why

[obtuse zealot]

yo sg wanna do me a favor

[ripe osprey]

but thats how lava made it, maybe we will get some more cooking speed in the future

[obtuse zealot]

what tier am i on :3

[raw fjord]

There's a final level of sigils, where do I get that upgrade?

[plush bane]

research

[raw fjord]

ty

[frozen hollow]

58?

[warm willow]

You gain ~~99% of all ~~bits from using chem plants. Duh? And if they spawn at the exact same rate (because it’s faster that the game will display), but at 1 tier higher, or more if your plants were spawning t7 or below, then that’s an increase in bits…

[frozen hollow]

I think that's 16 54's

[delicate otter]

What... You serious right now? I just get multiple chem plants and make them evolve each other...

[ripe osprey]

gaming can't be that hard

[lucid wind]

Ok well I guess I'll just focus on getting these to 111 then

[ripe osprey]

check how many ladles u need for each on idleontoolbox

also where are ur ribbons

[viscid raven]

thats enough spelunking today

[obtuse zealot]

nice

[warm willow]

So youre harvesting slower to account for the fact they aren’t spawning already evolved? And they’ll still do that even if you didn’t because the give flat amounts of time, which converts to ONE HUNDRED TIMES MORE CYCLES GIVEN FROM EACH CHEM. Which means, again, your average is about a tier higher.

[obtuse zealot]

back to spelunking jail

[ripe osprey]

https://giphy.com/gifs/yeah-speed-ishowspeed-D63HGAzG15LQrjBPRE

[wary haven]

anyone know what the second upgrade for G6 does? Was curious if its worth upgrading twice

[hollow shadow]

Going back through the quests it's interesting to see that there are a not insubstantial amount of them that are effectively impossible for players that are late game enough

[frozen hollow]

I will escape clamworks 5 today 😭

[warm tinsel]

Just a question to spelunking...As an example: If I could make 100 levels in a whatever cave when do I use the pictured elixir? After 25 levels, 50 levels, 75 levels or near the end like 95 levels ?

[frozen hollow]

I've been here all day...

[sour verge]

sushi and minehead boss GD bonus?

[obtuse zealot]

i do it when i got 2 guys left

[lucid wind]

Going towards peachring which is currently at 15

[obtuse zealot]

10 in lunar today trust

[lucid wind]

Ouch

[frozen hollow]

at least put a bad ribbon on them 😭

[ripe osprey]

u should put ribbons on all of ur meals even if they aren't high tier, even like a t6 or something it will be a big multiplier

[wary haven]

pretty good I'd say

[warm tinsel]

ok thanks

[ripe osprey]

yeah its solid, idk if its the best

[lucid wind]

Fair enough I've been saving for peachring just cause people have said to push peachring immediately

[wary haven]

just got a bunch of points for hitting 60 so had a lot to spend

[lucid wind]

I don't think I'm getting these to 111 any time soon

[ripe osprey]

if u have all the research xp, monocle and yellow(maybe brown legend) then its definately a solid choice

[delicate otter]

... Chems tier scaling is garbage anyway for once. There's barely any difference in bit gain from using basic 24h chem plant and t9 chem plant.
Secondly i do not want to click on chem plant instantly no matter what, as i stil want to evolve it in both palette and white mode.
Thirdly i'm literally losing track of what you are even saying

ONE HUNDRED TIMES MORE CYCLES GIVEN FROM EACH CHEM
Because i literally do not care how much time it is if it still gives me the same fcking plant tier... And i lose 100x bits from being in white mode.

[slender blaze]

Splurging a bunch of 5s on everything doesn’t really even make a dent in the t20 budget

[subtle musk]

45M? takes like one day

[upper karma]

[subtle musk]

well hello there t6

[wary haven]

got 2 points left

[frozen hollow]

🙏 that star is like 10% usage

[upper karma]

dam you

[lucid wind]

Not for me

[frozen hollow]

like my star is hitting the exact same nodes as yours and more..

[wary haven]

yeah but this setup is for maxamizing research xp not for boosting everything

[frozen hollow]

it's not even the optimal research xp setup 🤔

that's this

[ripe osprey]

i cant tell whats ur level for this?

[wary haven]

oh I didn't realize it could go a little further. I'll fix it now

[wary haven]

0/3

[lucid wind]

Seems like none of their legend point max cap upgrades are lvled

[frozen hollow]

oooo

[upper karma]

best legend grid

[fluid swan]

should i deactivate pallets if i want to get more crowns on gaming?

[ripe osprey]

u probably want this

boosts zenith a lot

[subtle musk]

yeah

[wary haven]

I was thinking that but wasnt sure between that and other upgrades. Wondered if peeps that got that early were coping

[wary haven]

def sounds good to have since I've been grinding that all week

[ripe osprey]

most people get yellow 3/3 and brown 3/3 in research

i think u may have wasted some points on the megacrop sticker one and somewhere else

[frozen hollow]

yeah yellow and brown are good the others are skips untill we're point rich (never at this rate)

[upper karma]

greens got clicker reward multi which is nice

reds just...

[ripe osprey]

yeah red is pretty stinky, i put a point into it to see what it gives

[modest pine]

is it just with candying that the material disappears when you use it to bubble and not short afk windows? I've been doing 3min ore claims and getting all the mats I'm supposed to get from it and I'm able to use all the ore to lvl my bubbles
or is this just for ores, not mats, fish, logs or catches

[ripe osprey]

very sad

[wary haven]

it was more cause I still needed my final metal stickers. Literally needed last one then update happened

[warm willow]

You gain bits from being out of palette. That is a fact. The increase to speed results in higher tier plants which factually give more bits. Nothing about being in palette confers a bonus to bit gain. And if you thought having 100x less speed increases bit gain, then why don’t you get more bits earlier in the skill? Or why even upgrade speed at all? Why would using the kitsune that increases speed but lowers bits ever be anything anyone ever wanted to do to progress the gaining skill?

[subtle musk]

owl gets kinda strong

[upper karma]

I put a point into each for the xp multi

[frozen hollow]

oooo you want red 2 (does nothing atm) and red 6

[upper karma]

[wary haven]

what peeps research lvl lookin like rn? I'm just guessing peeps hitting 70 by now

[delicate otter]

I literally did farm on both and i'm gaining about 10x bits on palette....
Kitsune is good because its not 3x

[upper karma]

lol na 70 wont happen for like 1-2 months

[outer patio]

i cannot imagine why a creator would want to raise expectatiins like this

[frozen hollow]

I get to swap to insight setup in 22 hours :O

[delicate otter]

And also speed good until it hits the artificial speed limit. This literally why palette exists. to move artificial speed limit further.

[warm willow]

The only thing you gain from being in palette mode, is palette progress. Everything else is worse, which is why you see everyone turning theirs off when they aren’t trying to progress it.

[upper karma]

[delicate otter]

Dude. I'm literally gaining 10x bits in palette. I tested it right now. I've been testing it for months now...

[wary haven]

ahh that's kinda cool. Thought I was far behind the top since I got to w7 basically when research started

[subtle musk]

yes you get more bits yes you get pallette progress but for crowns specifically it's faster to have it off

[brisk robin]

Unpopular opinion. I think King Doot isn't that overpowered as people make it seem.

[upper karma]

great question considering its just a game, its not like we'll all get a million dollars or something

[subtle musk]

Your name reflects why this is unpopular

[frozen hollow]

way less op than it used to be but 1/3rd deckhand, all stat and gold ball multi is uhhh yeah..

[dry brook]

What's a OK number for the ancient golemns? Where you guys stopping?

[obtuse zealot]

the research grid gives dr not grid bonus

[delicate otter]

Yes, this is correct, i was just arguing how much. Someone said that if you get 100x speed you will progress crowns 100x faster which is .... well... very incorrect. Its hard to estimate how much you actually gain considering that i dont even know how crown tiers work and how rarer they are than normal evolution.
But on basic calculations you maybe will be like 2-3x faster at best likely.

[obtuse zealot]

grid bonus is for everyone

[frozen hollow]

🤔 could've sworn it was the other way around...

[bright folio]

https://tenor.com/view/dr-evil-one-billion-mike-meyers-austin-powers-hehe-gif-11108917

[frozen hollow]

oh well droprate :)

[obtuse zealot]

also idk why you guys talking about p2w and not mentioning the new banner pets and talking about doot heh

[subtle musk]

it's 100x less speed

[upper karma]

drop rate either way, pocket div or grid multi if you dont/do have doot

[warm willow]

Is it 10x or 100x difference? ‘Cause earlier you said 100x and now you’re saying 10x. It’s not an idea anyone is really pushing except you, that palette is better for bits. So to me, it seems, that since you’re confidently incorrect, and the numbers you’re confident about seem to be changing, then I don’t really believe you tested.

[subtle musk]

each crown rank is 1.5x moe chance for better crowns unless you're 0.0 with palette on youw on't be faster

[brisk robin]

You can get two more divinities from hole. Also ES talent. And most of them are worthless to be honest. Nobisect, Arctic, Harriep, the others don't do much.

[brittle lava]

the acquire tier 6 cog from equinox, does that mean when reset happens i have to get a tier 6?

[wary haven]

oh wow I assumed upgrade on yellow talents from research would be a free upgrade in whallmus. Not that I'd have to spend more points to upgrade it back to the grind

[upper karma]

yes

[frozen hollow]

have you considered that the 10x increase is taking into account the speed decrease 🤔 compared to the 100x bit multi palette itself gives

[delicate otter]

Bruh. I gain +1 tier of plants from speed. I lose 100x multi. +1 tier is worse than 100x multi. and also i do not yet hit instant respawn for my palette and its still much better than white. The more speed i get right now will actually make palette even better compared to white.

[upper karma]

time to 1500 everyone

[loud falcon]

are there visible odds for every perfecto tier?

[frozen hollow]

I'm just checking to make sure you actually read what this does

[ripe osprey]

there should be

[wary haven]

kinda wish I knew that yesterday cause all my peeps passed the 1200 mark. Somewhat wasted my points maxing my board finally

[frozen hollow]

afaik no one knows the odds atm :)
the spreadsheet is just a lie atm so like who knows..

[magic birch]

35

[sour verge]

IT seemingly gives you the odds for lowest tier you have not Perfecto'd

[brisk robin]

Yes, that's why I included it. Harriep, Nobisect, Arctic. The others are just background characters.

[delicate otter]

... its not that hard to test. I literally clicking gaming right now. In white for an hour. And it gave me jack shit in bits... While palette progressing much much faster. White spawning +1 tier of plants is NOT worth 100x less bits.

[frozen hollow]

ummm

[sour verge]

I corrected my statement, I misread the names

[frozen hollow]

oh you meant the others are useless
checking again
did we read this?

[upper karma]

seems like good odds 🤔

[frozen hollow]

or this

[subtle musk]

this guy has no clue what he's on about always a copper bar

[warm willow]

No. But I did incorrectly state earlier that nothing about having palette active applied any bonuses. So the bits aspect of this debate is me being wrong as a result of me forgetting about that.

[frozen hollow]

like how are we valuing this (which doesn't do much for anything but pushing) over snehebatu and omni...

also flutterbis is good now with glimbo 🤷‍♀️

[obtuse zealot]

wadafak

[misty mountain]

Don't bother honestly SpoonGobby, Doot is the most wanted pet for a reason but I guess all gods are bad

[frozen hollow]

dw I will hit it :)

[charred condor]

any reasonable way to get 200 smithing on all chars?

[obtuse zealot]

craft coldseekers during statue/skill exp

[frozen hollow]

I do think glimbo can compete with current day doot assuming you have the sources of gods like the gem shop but like yeah...

the $200 pet can compete with the other $200 pet

[candid horizon]

there is only one ranking for divinities, KING DOOT

[wary haven]

mind telling me what your coordinates for your star is? having trouble getting one of the squares you have

[frozen hollow]

my setup isn't optimal for exp

[delicate otter]

Basicly the thing i'm arguing is that palette literally exists as 100x increase in bits with 100x less speed, because with the hard cap on plant respawning time and evolutions limited and getting progressively harder the speed as the stat is heavily diminishing in value past certain point when you hit the artificial respawn limit and only benefit from tiers. So palette was literally added by Lava himself to solve this issue and be objectively better for bit gain for late game players. I'm not even endgame player and i didnt have instant plant respawn on palette but it was already much more bit effective than white for a long time, and will be even more effective the more speed i gain from there on.

[obtuse zealot]

brro no one cares about gaming. trrue

[frozen hollow]

I am like 1% exp less than optimal

[candid horizon]

The Button cares about gaming...

[obtuse zealot]

does it?

[sour verge]

I'm ready for another palette week 🫡

[ripe osprey]

barely

[wary haven]

no problem. Since I was basically using the same position as your star. Also that sounds like I'm nearing the ceiling for level like everyone else wont be too bad for me

[ripe osprey]

its like 250k then 2m plants picked for button, that's not that bad

[subtle musk]

text wall mods ban

[velvet summit]

Is the 2.5x div exp and lab XP legend talent any good?

[ripe osprey]

https://tenor.com/view/deer-my-honest-reaction-meme-goofy-reaction-random-gif-14137590962491544486

[subtle musk]

I'd say so

[candid horizon]

until the end

[ripe osprey]

brother

[subtle musk]

Just completely unreachable numbers

[obtuse zealot]

i think im more worried about 29 ribbon

[ripe osprey]

51m drop rate?

[warm willow]

You were right about the bits, because I simply forgot that the speed drop was a trade for bits. but the speed drop is massively hampering to farming crowns unless your plants are already spawning at max tier. Each tier up for royal plants is much more valuable than the previous. So getting the same amount of plants because you’re already at speed where plants spawn instantly, but getting them 1-2 tiers higher on average is a tremendous boon that’s more and more vital the more crowns you already have.

[candid horizon]

its still sprinkled all over in between, so its necessary if you dont wanna spend every skip on gaming

[ripe osprey]

this guy's at #100 button and screenshotting that

[subtle musk]

THE NUMBERS ARE UNREACHABLE BROTHER

[candid horizon]

yeah, i guess for now

[ripe osprey]

for now?

[delicate otter]

ehh.. i mean i literally do not know how much valuable is the next tier of the crown... Like honestly. From what i've seen gathering tier 3 crown is like... gathering 3 tier 1? Or something like this. If it works like this its only marginal increase in effectiveness in the end. Especially considering that once again chem plants highly affect this farm too.

[ripe osprey]

55k is the highest droprate possible rn with a snapshot, this asks for 51m

[charred condor]

lmao i cloudsaved and my score went down

[subtle musk]

55k is not the highest rn that guy is not legit

[delicate otter]

Also it seems crowns have even worse evo chance than other plants. So speed affect them even worse.

[obtuse zealot]

eh

[subtle musk]

or he's in AC map

[charred condor]

its 55k with ac buff

[ripe osprey]

50k-55k thts not the point lol

[candid horizon]

around the 200 button mark

[warm willow]

I think it scales differently than that, but even if that’s exactly how it scales, that’s between 20% and 10% higher chances depending on what tier they were already spawning at.

[subtle musk]

50K isn't either where ar we getting this info

[subtle musk]

2.5M plant evo is ridiculously easy

[brittle lava]

can anybody show the dmg card setup again for emp pls. swapped mine but forgot to ss it

[subtle musk]

if we're going highest DR at AC maps that would be 62K

[candid horizon]

"239 Evolve a total of 17.9 M Plants in Gaming, as shown by your Elegant Seashell +0.02× Sushi Bucks"

[ripe osprey]

50k is 100% possible snapshotted on frogs

[brittle lava]

actually nvm, found it. saved it somewhere else

[ripe osprey]

but thats still not the point

[subtle musk]

somehow neither of you guys read either of my messages before posting

[brittle lava]

this is even better, tyty

[candid horizon]

i wonder if we can reach 1m DR in world 8

[subtle musk]

we'll probably be able to before then

[candid horizon]

that would be sick man

[subtle musk]

3.75 and you get 24 hours from minibosses every try

[lone dagger]

Dumb question, is it worth going prehistoric on DK even if it means losing out on drop rate?

[obtuse zealot]

i have emp on dk

you make a prehistoric set to afk tho

[lone dagger]

Gotcha! I'm also using emp on DK active right now

[slender blaze]

I rock mob respawn pretty much constantly on dk

[subtle musk]

did you get all discoveries?

[obtuse zealot]

no

[gloomy current]

whats your pow?

[subtle musk]

smh

[upper karma]

finally got added

[obtuse zealot]

1.19e30

[gloomy current]

DAMN THATS ALOT

[obtuse zealot]

eh

[gloomy current]

well im at e28 which cave do you think i should stop doing gds at?

[subtle musk]

it's always been added you guys just don't realize there's a second page

[obtuse zealot]

i mean the first 5 are easy, lunar is annoying

but i killed the cat guy like a week ago

cat mine

[ripe osprey]

cat?

[gloomy current]

hmm i already did the first 2 caves without the cat so after i get him i'll do the rest

[gloomy current]

minehead boss

[obtuse zealot]

i forget the name

[ripe osprey]

ohh the 22m hp one

[merry river]

idk how people have pushed minehead like that, felt like I never had enough points to put into minehead not with other bonuses

[ripe osprey]

u prob need to put points into research for minehead

[upper karma]

just a difference in what you believe is best to level vs someone else

[sinful mirage]

anyone else finding that very few crystal mobs are spawning? I've got 1 in 5 odds and it's acting like 1 in 30

[desert creek]

i feel like im not farming zenith clusters as fast on frogs compared to beans, is my boomerang not big enough or something?

[merry river]

yea 100% thisI have done a little, but minehead at the time had never felt like good bonuses

[upper karma]

I only have points into base currency and 1 into damage per square clicked and Im pretty much where everyone else is in mine so it doesnt take much

[obtuse zealot]

well i also focused the "correct" thing from day 1

[subtle musk]

@desert creek

[upper karma]

slackin bruh

[obtuse zealot]

true

idk some people were doing it at 11k which i genuinely dont understand

[ripe osprey]

respawn rate might be low

[upper karma]

which boss

[obtuse zealot]

purrhead lol

like 1 guy did it at 11 and another 12

[desert creek]

ok yeah i def dont have a respawn rate set up, ty

[obtuse zealot]

that guy

idk about that guy

theres a w5 chat guy who did it with 11

[ripe osprey]

clutched up with no gold tiles

[obtuse zealot]

either way i took 14 and was mad

[upper karma]

its normally the people who never type that be 1 tappin bosses so idk

[subtle musk]

always a copper bart

[obtuse zealot]

true need to stop typign

[upper karma]

a w5 main who does well in the game? definitely cheesin

[obtuse zealot]

lol

[civic forge]

88B for the last one... yeah, that ain't gonna happen any time soon

[mental fable]

I remember lava said save your research point for something good. Was it just Equinox?

How good is it? Anyone got the info on that?

[obtuse zealot]

yea i put my guys back in other jjails once i hit 2* ill hit 3* in a couple days

[upper karma]

lame cant find the guy in w5

[subtle musk]

there's equinox and then ships for sailing

[upper karma]

dam whats your DR

[native gorge]

should I upgrade or just keep saving?

[subtle musk]

if you hit promo about 6 or 7 times you'll get it

[obtuse zealot]

im pretty sure i did all my things to half cost

except the 10x chance and middle

[native gorge]

yikes.

[obtuse zealot]

i mean either way its just a gamble

[native gorge]

oh I know. but the thought of spending like 3 days here feels yucky

[civic forge]

not that high

[obtuse zealot]

wait

[upper karma]

welp

[obtuse zealot]

whats your card stamp

[upper karma]

I cant find this w5 dude

[obtuse zealot]

i hate u

[upper karma]

are your other 9 toons falling behind or somethin

[obtuse zealot]

no theyre in divinity/monuments

[civic forge]

but i used cardifier to skip to 4* and 5*

[upper karma]

so your trying to max a w7 card with 1 toon

[obtuse zealot]

my gr is 15

[subtle musk]

smh get that shit up

[obtuse zealot]

4, idk how much left on the 3*

[upper karma]

ah I see why I cant find w5 dude, im 20 pages in AND ITS STILL SHT FROM TODAY, god these people send too many pics

[obtuse zealot]

anyway it was here

[upper karma]

smdh ofc you're not gonna be done yet

[muted cove]

Are my levels decent ?

[obtuse zealot]

i just find it annoying

[subtle musk]

no

[obtuse zealot]

bro i think you know the answer

[upper karma]

thats funny cause thats the guy I've been questioning while scrolling

[obtuse zealot]

yea its fine lol

[ripe osprey]

probably for your point of the game but overall no

[merry river]

yes, just noticed what my nslb hit

[subtle musk]

could be worse

[grim junco]

should i use more red potion???

[ripe osprey]

no

[merry river]

nah it doesnt not help much after the first one and takes SOOO much more stam

[upper karma]

whats your currency gain in mine

[obtuse zealot]

100k?

[upper karma]

mm

[obtuse zealot]

im not usre ill check

neat

i wonder if he will ever fix this bug with auto

[upper karma]

just realized he did that purr without additive buff, and only 1 golden tile on square, thats some NASTY rng

[subtle musk]

codfrey bug first

[delicate otter]

I mean, just get all of the great discoveries and the bug is solved

[obtuse zealot]

i think hes never going to fix codfrey

[cloud estuary]

is perfecto chance affected by highest perfecto?

[obtuse zealot]

i will get like 7 then stop doing them here and go back to lunar then donezo

[mortal trellis]

ive been stuck on this mofo for weeks man

[obtuse zealot]

i think i did maize with 3k? idr

[mortal trellis]

mechanic just makes no sense to me

[obtuse zealot]

remember to get the sneaking shop thin

[upper karma]

yea maize is pretty low requirements

[ripe osprey]

have u put points into minehead research?

[upper karma]

should be even lower after the mine reductions

[obtuse zealot]

wait i didnt even pop gd potion wtf

[mortal trellis]

not really sadly

[obtuse zealot]

@mortal trellis jade emporium

[mortal trellis]

weak

[upper karma]

do you have the damage per tile flipped one?

[charred condor]

oooh i was -680 on bubbles a couple of days ago

[mortal trellis]

1 point yeah

[ripe osprey]

need this 2/2

[upper karma]

since your a mine main I got somethign to ask you

[obtuse zealot]

mine main is crazy

[rich sleet]

Who do y'all prefer to do clamworks on? DK or AC?

[charred condor]

i do DK

[obtuse zealot]

i did it basically only afk

some people do dk active tho

[ripe osprey]

also the base minehead currency one is good

[slender blaze]

does the prehistoric armor set bonus not apply to research?

[upper karma]

is 2x your damage from 2 tiles normal

[obtuse zealot]

it does, its 50% base

[obtuse zealot]

crown

[upper karma]

crowns a 1.5 no?

[obtuse zealot]

yea but adding the +7 and whatever the bonus is

[rich sleet]

Yeah I saw people normally do DK for the rare drop pearls, but honestly the ac doesn't feel too bad with the respawn and high enough Arcane crystal

[ripe osprey]

well yeah plus the 7 and the 6 u got

[upper karma]

hmm so +4m from a 7, I see

[ripe osprey]

and a 6

[obtuse zealot]

i mean its dependent on the upgrade u have

idk what its called, combo something

[ripe osprey]

u did 2 tiles

[rancid turtle]

is this enough to try to get grand discoveries?

[obtuse zealot]

3 tiles

[obtuse zealot]

fwiw mine is 1 in 80 something

[upper karma]

you saying bomb counts to damage? lmao

[obtuse zealot]

yea

[rancid turtle]

</3

[obtuse zealot]

it increases even if its a 0

like if you get a -1 and your thing is high enoughy our damage goes up

[ripe osprey]

if ur REALLY lucky

[upper karma]

hmm, I've never noticed that

[obtuse zealot]

yea i mean mine is basically just 1 shot or suffer

[upper karma]

idk ig bros just cracked, started 4 months ago and clappin in minemini

[gaunt topaz]

i may have spammed the white shaker lol

(i took 20 min remaking the chain lmao)

[upper karma]

making it to kelp cave in 2 months of creation

[rancid turtle]

i get 0 shakers bro ToT

[obtuse zealot]

white shaker is a scam

[rancid turtle]

do I need j3 for the shaker to come back?

[subtle musk]

yes

[obtuse zealot]

think so

[rancid turtle]

I see

[subtle musk]

actually how the fuck do you have sushi without j3

[rancid turtle]

the map

[gaunt topaz]

all the sushi that boost my fuel were lv28 before the spam

[rancid turtle]

i progressed it while it was acessible

im on T22